1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Man, Welcome in Lake Kickings Live. It is Sunday Night, 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: March twenty seventh. You o a lord twenty twenty two, 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: jam Pack. 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: I have loved these shows, these QNA shows we've been doing. 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: We've got one tonight that's like nine or ten questions deep. 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: We are high at top a lively downtown Nashville, Tennessee. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Weather's great outside. I think the show will be equally 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: as great inside tonight. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: And the NCAA tournament, how about that March madness? 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: You know what, Imagine a world where your final four 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: doesn't consist of any cinderellas, of any underdogs. 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Couldn't be my sport, couldn't be college football. 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: We had Cincinnati, who you got, Nova, Duke, North Carolina, 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: Kansas heard of them before them. But I'm not here 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: to give you bad faith straw Man arguments about why 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: college football's postseason is better. I'm not here to do 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: that because we have more important things to discuss Tonight. 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: There is a huge. 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Recruiting splack that was made since the last time you 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: and I spoke. 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: We will discuss. 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a lot about what's more likely in 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. I've got some really interestingly worded questions 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: about things ranging from whether the major stadiums are going 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: to be a thing of the past, to you know, 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: our annual plea for a Saturday night national championship game 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: instead of Monday. 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: We got a lot of college football to discuss. 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: As is usually the case when I open up the mailbag, 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: you guys just spanned the entire continent of college football. 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: The other night, I did an international shout out I 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: think it was Cape Town, South Africa, and I mentioned, hey, 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: that's cool, we got some international listeners. Well, I had 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: no idea, So then I go and I look at 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: the dms and the emails, and boy, we got some 36 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: international shout outs tonight. I mean I heard from two 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: of you from Turkey the other day, Istanbul and Ismir 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: Turkey checking in. Hong Kong's in the house, okay, now 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: with Japan's here Athens, Georgia, and Greece as it turns out, 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: and Lisbon, Portugal also draper Utah. If you're interested in 41 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: so so thank you wherever you're watching, thank you so much. Hey, 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: there's a really interesting conspiracy starting to circulate around this show. 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: And as we dive in tonight, I just want to 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: ask you out there, which camper you in. Are you 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: of the opinion that director Colin and producer Jesse are 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 2: in fact, living. 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Breathing human beings or did we make them up? 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: If we made them up, which apparently an alarmingly growing 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: number of you believe we have. By we, I guess, 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: I mean me? Then, who's got their hands on the 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: wheel right now? Who's really running this thing? Just something 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: to think about. All right, let's dive in here tonight. 53 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get to. Thank you so much, 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: and make sure you're subscribed to the channel as we 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: open things with a very, very hard to pronounce a name. 56 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: So this is why we're choosing this question to lead 57 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: the show off. Late King volunteer commenter hit us and said, 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on Tennessee landing Nico Ia Malaveya? 59 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: Nope, that's not it close. 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: They got Nico big time five star quarterback, and we've 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: got a lot of time to learn the pronunciation. 62 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: What are the thoughts here though on them getting him? 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: This is a guy. 64 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: You've probably heard the name already, maybe you haven't tried 65 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: to pronounce it. This is a huge deal. I don't 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: want to gloss over how big this is. Because we're 67 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: messing around about pronouncing the dude's name. You'll know about 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: him being kind of like Tua or dj Ouyangoli. Let 69 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: you'll know how to pronounce that name. He's going to 70 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: make you know how to pronounce his name. He has 71 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: committed to Tennessee. So that's part A before I get 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: to the whole nil tag that's associated with this. Let's 73 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: just talk for a second about how big this is 74 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: because this is something that a lot of folks didn't 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: think would happen. A lot of folks did not think 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: that Josh Hipel would come to Tennessee and attract major talent. 77 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Well that's happening, and as is usually the case, when 78 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: a big time quarterback commits to your campus, there will 79 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: be several more dominoes to follow. So I feel ultra 80 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: confident now moving forward in the Tennessee recruiting apparatus, the 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: entire recruiting infrastructure there. This is so big though, So 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: I mean, we're excited about Hendon Hooker this year at 83 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: Tennessee and what he could do thirty one to three 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: touchdown interception ratio last year. Well, now we all all 85 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: of a sudden get to keep one eye on the 86 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: field this year. This is a luxury Tennessee fans have 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: not known for a long time. You get to have 88 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: one eye on the field this year. But then you 89 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: got the other. I cut over here on this commitment 90 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: list and we see at big time quarterback prospect all 91 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: five of those stars next to his name. So that's 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: the beauty for a Tennessee fan. But then, if you 93 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: want to be a contrarian, and if you want to 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: argue about this and not give Tennessee and Josh hypercredit, 95 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: here's how you would make it sound. Well, yeah, it's 96 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: easy when you got the kind of NIL money that 97 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: he's going to get. If it's so easy, why doesn't 98 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: your program have him? 99 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: Would be my first question. The second question. 100 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 2: Is is that not the way the game. 101 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: Is played now? The answer is yes, it's rhetorical. That 102 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: is the way the game's played. 103 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: So there are some details and facts and figures floating 104 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 2: around out there about the kind of deal that he signed. 105 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: It's structured very similarly to how I think most of 106 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: the major NIL deals will be structured moving forward. I 107 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: think they'll probably balloon in nature a little bit more so. 108 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: You've seen those figures in the millions. But I think 109 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: it'll get a little bit bigger. 110 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: But I don't. I think it'll just grow like a 111 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: bubble forever. 112 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: Reportedly, and I want to say reportedly, about three hundred 113 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: and fifty k is essentially a signing bonus here, but 114 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: over two million will be paid each year he's enrolled, 115 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: each year he's eligible to play. 116 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: There are appearance deals. 117 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a contract, a talent contract. You've 118 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: got certain parameters you got to meet, you got boxes 119 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: you got to check, and you'll get paid for it. 120 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: So it's no different than a celebrity in that sense 121 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: that has signed an endorsement deal. Now, a lot of 122 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: people have problems with this, probably a moot point by now, 123 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: but a lot of people look at that and they say, well, 124 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: that just doesn't feel like college football. 125 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. 126 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: You know, I was drug into this, kicking and scream 127 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: and I'm not particularly crazy about it, but I understand 128 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: reality is reality. Now, there are a lot of questions 129 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: out there that follow up on this, and it is 130 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: something along the lines of, well. 131 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Where does it end. 132 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: He gets this much and then the next kid's gonna 133 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: get this much. Well, let's be careful for a second, 134 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: just assuming that the figures will forever balloon northward, because 135 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: we have not gone through a major NIL cycle yet. 136 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is we watch recruiting 137 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: every year, don't we, And we see kids that end 138 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: up not fulfilling their immense star rating hype every year. 139 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: A lot of times it's for things that were outside 140 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: of my control if I were to put a star 141 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: ranking on a kid. But for whatever the reason, we 142 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: see kids not pan out all the time. We've never 143 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: seen NIL attached to it before. So now we got 144 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: to watch a cycle or two and we got to 145 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: watch a kid. 146 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Not gonna name names. 147 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: We're gonna see kids though, that end up signing these 148 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: mega deals and they just don't pan out. And so 149 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: the folks who have been writing those checks are going 150 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: to end up probably calibrating the way they go about 151 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: doing things. And there may be a whole lot more 152 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 2: performance based and incentive based guarantees layered into these NIL deals. 153 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: Kind of like there already is here. This is not 154 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: just six or eight million dollars being plopped down in 155 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: a kid's lap. There are a lot of parameters and 156 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: incentives that you have to meet. But I do think 157 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: that there is coming a day where there will be 158 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: a major NIL deal or five signed and then, for 159 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: whatever reason, the immense hype that is associated with said 160 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: signee just doesn't end up panning out, and then there's 161 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: a recalibration period and then we settle into whatever the 162 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: NIL market is going to be. 163 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: But that's down the road. 164 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: As for right now, this kid's gonna end up being 165 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: a big time quarterback at Tennessee, at least I believe that. 166 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a big bust factor with him. 167 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: I think he's really, really, really good. There's not a 168 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: lot that's unknown about him, in other words, So I'm 169 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: looking forward to that, and it will only bolster satellite recruiting, 170 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: if you will, recruiting around the quarterback position. Big for 171 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: Josh Hippel, because not a lot of people thought that 172 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: he would be able to do that, and he's using 173 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: the parameters of the game as they are right now 174 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: structured to pull off some things up there that already 175 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: people said that he was not going to. 176 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: Be capable of. I'm excited about it. 177 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on here at Tennessee kind of kind 178 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: of fits the description of this question. Doctor Van Nostrom 179 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: asks our giant stadiums for college football a thing of 180 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: the past. It seems more and more that people are 181 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: wanting to enjoy the game from home, and we kind 182 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: of had a segment about this, i'd say about three 183 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: weeks ago, and there are a lot of factors here. 184 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we were talking about. I remember 185 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: now we were talking about the attendance figures being down 186 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: relative to what the five year rolling average had been, 187 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: and everyone wanted to attribute one reason, and in reality, 188 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: there are probably like thirty reasons. Let's make no mistake 189 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: about it. Part of it is the enhanced in home experience. Also, 190 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: I think part of it was we're still one or 191 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: two years removed from COVID and people just have not 192 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: gotten back to whatever normal was for him. Thirdly, financial 193 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: times may have been tied for him. Fourthly, I'm not 194 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: going to list all thirty, but also think that you 195 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: have a ticket price situation. That ticket market is not 196 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: nearly as affordable, especially for a family, as it used 197 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: to be. So there are a lot of factors in play. 198 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: But yes, absolutely absolutely, the in home experience has never 199 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: been better, and I also think that at stadium, the 200 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: stadium not gonna cast to get everyone but the stadium 201 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: the stadium. I'm a believer that some venues do not 202 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: do a good enough job of keeping you looped in 203 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: and keeping you in the game. And by game, I 204 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: mean the National game on Saturday and letting you know 205 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: what's happening outside that stadium. Not talking about between plays, 206 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: but man, during those fifteen commercial breaks you have every quarter, 207 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: it seems I could get an updated score on Brigham 208 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: Young San Diego, like are San Diego State, I don't 209 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: have to be waiting until I drive home and get 210 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: cell phone service for it. So anyway, all that said 211 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: to say, yes, I do think that the mega stadium 212 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: construction is a thing of the past. We've seen some 213 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: restructuring already of venues at places like Tennessee or you'll 214 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: see a number of these sec schools over the next 215 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: few years, and big ten schools, the places where the 216 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand seat mega stadium cathedral type stadiums exists. 217 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: You'll see them restructure the venues to make them a 218 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: little more hospitable, maybe widen seats by six inches apiece, 219 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: you put in more luxury areas and it's just catering 220 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: to a different fan. But also there's this other thing 221 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: that I don't think college venues have taken advantage of 222 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: in the past, and that is being able. 223 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: To attract other acts. 224 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of times your college football stadium 225 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: hosts anywhere from seven to eight home football games a year, 226 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: and then it's just there and no one does anything 227 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: in it. You have the spring game and you may 228 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: open up the club sections for parties and stuff like that. 229 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: But these stadiums are used fractionally compared to what they 230 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: could be used for. And a lot of times the 231 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: major concerts, you know, the Garth Brooks are Kenny Chesney's, 232 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: those big, like summer touring acts. 233 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: They don't hit up a lot of the college stadiums 234 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: just because the amenities aren't good enough. 235 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: I know they've done a few of them. I think 236 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: Garth Brooks played Notre Dame Stadium recently. I think I 237 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: think Al Dean and Luke Brian I think they've played 238 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: Sandford Stadium. They're Georgia guys, so you know, it was 239 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: kind of a sweetheart deal there. But I think that 240 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: these college stadiums with just a little remodeling could be attractive. 241 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: Who's to say that one day we couldn't see a 242 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: WrestleMania in Death Valley? Would they still chant Neck if 243 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: WrestleMania was held at LSU? I don't know why not, 244 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: but anyway, so yeah, I definitely think there's a lot 245 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: of restructuring that will happen. You don't tear down the stadium, 246 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: but certainly you take capacity from one oh one k 247 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: to ninety three K, and in turn you in sort 248 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: a lot of things there from an amenity. 249 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: Standpoint that you didn't always have. 250 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that's absolutely coming, and it's already happening in many places. 251 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on here. 252 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: I don't even have a name, but I know what 253 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: this question is. Jose asks, what are realistic expectations for 254 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: the new look Miami first full recruiting cycle. Plenty of 255 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: buzz about the staff, but we're wondering if we are 256 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: setting the bar too high for the first cycle together. Well, 257 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: let's define where the bar has been set. I've set 258 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: it really high. I won't back away from that. I've 259 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: set the bar from Miami's first full recruiting cycle under 260 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: Morial Christoval really high, and the first full cycle, meaning this. 261 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: One that we're in right now. 262 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: They still manage to sign the best major class in 263 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: the state of Florida this past cycle, and they were 264 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: on campus like ten minutes, so they ended up doing that. 265 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: I think they were fifteenth, somewhere in the mid teens. Now, 266 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: what are they gonna do with their first full cycle. 267 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: My expectation is they will flirt with a top five 268 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: class every cycle, and that's including this one. 269 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: I think they'll be up there. 270 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: I think they'll be that lofty a recruiting power notable 271 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: commits already. They've got Cyrus Moss in there, and Nigelie 272 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: Kelly's in there, and we're showing you the chart. 273 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: It's too early to even break. 274 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: This down, but I think it pales in comparison to 275 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: the noise that they're gonna be able to make as 276 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: a staff on the recruiting trail this cycle and in 277 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: years to come. What they're gonna do this year, what 278 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: this Miami staff will do this recruiting cycle, is they'll 279 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: cast the vision. They will have announced they've arrived, and 280 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: they'll let you know by the result next Early Signing 281 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: Day and National Signing Day, you'll know. So I think 282 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: a lot of what some people are still doubting. I 283 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: don't doubt it, but I think a lot of people 284 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: do still doubt it. But then all of a sudden, 285 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: the talk will turn from right now, is it just 286 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: going to be that big a deal period? Or is 287 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: this high or overblown? It'll go from that to Okay, 288 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: well we see they're going to recruit. Eh Mario christbaull 289 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: Is recruited before, so maybe I shouldn't have been surprised 290 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: by that, But now is he going to get it 291 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: done on the field? That's already where I am. I'm 292 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: not even worried about recruiting, you know, So the question 293 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: here is almost an afterthought to me. 294 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Jose I would be stunned. 295 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: If they weren't recruiting at the very least at a 296 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: top ten level. But I had an argument with the 297 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: guy the other day, one of our viewers. I had 298 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: an argument where he said, it's just totally unrealistic to 299 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: think that Miami could recruit at a top five level. 300 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: It's not like I don't know what I'm saying, five five, 301 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: four three somewhere around there. 302 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: That's big time. I just think it's a big time staff. 303 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: I think the staff was put together to have immediate 304 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: brand and name recognition in the state of Florida. I 305 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: don't think they're going to confine themselves just to South Florida, 306 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: but that will certainly be for all intensive purposes their 307 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: base of operation, and they'll prioritize that. But look, if 308 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: they need to go to Raleigh, if they need to 309 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: go to New Orleans, if they need to go to 310 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: Little Rock, they could do that. This staff is fully 311 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: capable of doing that. You don't just have South Florida 312 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: recruiters here, You've got national recruiters who know South Florida. 313 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: And that was the priority and the emphasis that Mario 314 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: Christobau places on putting this staff together. And he largely 315 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: got guys. He got guys with pedigrees. He got guys 316 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: that have already been around the block, guys that know 317 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: the South, guys that know South Florida in particular, and 318 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: guys that have credibility. When you go Wikipedia, A lot 319 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: of these guys, they're not first or second year types. 320 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: They've been places before, They've worked for some of the best. 321 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: And so now you don't have to wonder whether he 322 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: can be able to they already have. So I don't 323 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: have any doubt about that. What I'm already thinking it 324 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: is what I think a lot of people will end 325 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: up thinking. I'm already thinking recruiting is going to be great. 326 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: Let's see what they do on the field. That's where 327 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: I've been since day one with Mario best of all 328 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: in town. So I think it stands to reason if 329 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: you had doubts about him at Oregon and whether he 330 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: could take Oregon to the playoff and beyond, it's fair 331 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: to still have those doubts. 332 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: That's fair. 333 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: It's also reasonable, though, to understand, in the grand scheme 334 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: of things, this is still a young head coach. You 335 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: got some years at FIU, but on the major scene, 336 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: the Power five scene, I meant, you don't even have 337 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: what do you have? 338 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Half a decade? 339 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: Around half a decade, that's that's Kirby Smart, like, that's 340 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: that's what Kirby Smart has. 341 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: And so I think it's really fun to watch. 342 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: I think a lot of times you got to recalibrate 343 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: your your perspective on guys when they don't immediately match 344 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: what the best in the game are doing. 345 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: You don't just throw them out. 346 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: Like I know this may be a shock to some people. 347 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: You can become better even after someone's made you a 348 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: head coach. When we had Mario on the show about 349 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: a month ago, I asked him that, so what have 350 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: you learned, Like, what do you evaluate about yourself that 351 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: you think can get better? And he went into a 352 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: lot of detail about that. So, Jose, my expectation is 353 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: flirt with a top five class. That's my expectation for 354 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: this recruiting cycle. Moving right along here, good pace. 355 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to liven up the pace a little bit tonight. 356 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: I think we've done it so far. I have. 357 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: I also, before I get into this question, I just 358 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: got to warn you I've got probably one of the 359 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: most involved academy ad reads that we've ever done, so 360 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: much so that I'm not going to try and trap 361 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: you and subconsciously drag you into the ad read. I 362 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: am outright teasing our ad read tonight because we have 363 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: props and that's all I can say. I can see 364 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: it over here. You can't yet, all right, So let's 365 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: go to the next question here. The Big Z asks 366 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: if you had to create a set of criteria for 367 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: the college Football Playoff Committee to determine who's in, what 368 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: would said criteria be If you had to limit to 369 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: three data points. I've never been diagnosed with ADD I 370 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: think I have it, though, and so a lot of 371 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: times when I'm answering these sorts of questions, all this 372 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: stuff just becomes word solid data and different data points 373 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: and data sets. 374 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: All that stuff. 375 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: I know what I value, but I really want it 376 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: laid out like a fifth grader would. And so today, 377 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: because of said undiagnosed condition, I head up nerd Josh 378 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: over from College Football Nerds. 379 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: He's great at this stuff. 380 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: I ask him for legal advice all the time. I 381 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: ask him for data advice all the time. And instead 382 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: of stealing his thoughts because I know he's lurking in 383 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: the chat over here, I just said, you know what, 384 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: you send me what you think because I already know 385 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: we agree. 386 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: You're just gonna word it. 387 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna articulate it a lot fancier than I ever would. 388 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: And here's what we came up with. By we, I 389 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: mean him. But I agree with all this. First and foremost, 390 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: I would value record, even though you are not always 391 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: what your record says you are. Record is the most 392 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: important thing. 393 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: Even I'm telling you, winning football games has got to 394 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: always be the most important thing. But there's a proper 395 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: way to interpret this for anyone that is wanting to 396 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: be honest about the process. You've got to be able 397 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: to put these wins in tiers, in quadrants if you will. 398 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: And so, not only do I want to know what 399 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: your record is, I want to know how much quad 400 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: one wins you have, how much quad two wins you have. 401 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: And we can go down a different rabbit hole of 402 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: talking about how we define the quadrants, but I need 403 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: to know how many wins you have, how many losses 404 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: you have. But look, if you're out there twelve and zero, 405 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: but you don't have anything better than one quadrant two win. 406 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: And I got my buddy over here, University of Arkansas 407 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 2: sitting at nine and three, but they got three quad 408 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: one losses and four more quad two wins. 409 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: I may think they're. 410 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: Better than you, even though you're undefeated, and they're sitting 411 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: here with three losses. So yes, record matters. We got 412 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: to properly interpret it. Second thing, and this is where 413 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: that comes into play. Opponent adjusted rating. Think S and 414 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: P plus think it. Any of a number of them 415 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: flowed out there. I think some are more reputable than others. 416 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: S and P plus is pretty universally respected though. That's 417 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: Bill Connolly's rating. And what this is is it is 418 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: slow down. 419 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: It is a rating, not a ranking. 420 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: It is a rating, but it is a rating to 421 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: where you have the teams you have played factored in. 422 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: So let's go back to that scenario. 423 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: If you're twelve and zero, but you haven't played anything 424 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: better than the sixty first best team in the country. 425 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: But I'm nine to three and I've played three top 426 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: ten teams and those are my losses. An opponent adjusted 427 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: rating system may have me ahead of you because that 428 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: system's looking at you and saying, well, you kind of 429 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: got a hollow twelve and oh, because if I were 430 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: to give you this schedule, I think my system thinks 431 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: I think that you would be a three loss team, 432 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: minimum three loss team, So I would have opponent adjusted ratings. 433 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: And then you got to have a way to properly 434 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: define true strength of schedule. Now, when I say true 435 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: strength of schedule, I do not mean we get to 436 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: the finish line and then we take the College of 437 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: Playoff Committee rankings and then we ask, all right, how 438 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: many games have you played against the top twenty five 439 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: as current lead defined and that's how we're going to 440 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: determine your strength of schedule. 441 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't care about that. 442 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: Don't care because there are a lot of factors that 443 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: have probably come into play during the season that have 444 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: adjusted the value that would have been on a game 445 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: that you and I played the second week of September. Famously, 446 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: we have seen games pitting top ten, top fifteen caliber 447 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: teams in week one, Week two, Week three. 448 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: One team beats the other team. 449 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 2: The other team incurs a lot of injury down the stretch, 450 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: and then they get all discombobulated and sideways and they 451 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: go off the rails and they got four or five losses, 452 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, people want to tell you 453 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: what your eyeball saw on week three, that high level 454 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: competitive game. It wasn't really what you thought it was, 455 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: because look, this team's a five loss team. So that 456 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: in week three was a win against a five loss team. 457 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. And so you know my theory on 458 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: this I and we can go down the rabbit hole 459 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: again if we want to. I want a way to determine. 460 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: The value of a game, whether it's a win or 461 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: a close loss. I want that value in that day 462 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: and the only way you're adjusting that. Aside from the 463 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: rare exception to the rule, the only way I would 464 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: permit you to adjust that is if you inflated the 465 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: value of a win. I don't have any problem if 466 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: I beat a team thirty to twenty seven in week 467 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: two and then that team goes on to have a 468 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: run of their own and I got criticized for barely 469 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: beating them in week two, but by week nine you're 470 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: saying that win actually was a whole lot better than 471 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: we thought it was. 472 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with. 473 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: That, because teams don't deceptively get a whole lot better 474 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: unless it's legit. Teams deceptively get a whole lot worse 475 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: all the time, and it shouldn't take away from the 476 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: value you have from winning or playing against them months ago. 477 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: So I want record properly defined, I want opponent adjusted 478 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: rating in there. I want a true strength of schedule. 479 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: And here's why you have to have all these. You 480 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: have to be able to distinguish between teams like twenty 481 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: twenty Alabama twenty twenty Ohio State. Those were teams that 482 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: dominated a bunch of other teams. Then you had a 483 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: team like twenty twenty Brigham Young that dominated a bunch 484 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: of not good teams, and then you had a team 485 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: like twenty twenty Notre Dame that barely beat some good teams. 486 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: So there are different calibers of teams there. 487 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: I have to be able to properly define and I 488 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: have to be able to properly interpret. And since this 489 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 2: is not the NFL never will be, no matter how 490 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: much you guys want it to be, we will not 491 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: ever play equal schedules. That doesn't mean you have to 492 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: turn the sport upside down. It does mean, though that 493 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: we have to go about determining our postseason a little 494 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: bit differently. I think we handled that well, especially for 495 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: thoughts that weren't authentically ours. 496 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so about three weeks ago, I was seated right 497 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: here and I. 498 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: Had an email from one of you, like you guys 499 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 2: normally do, and you sent me a receipt from your 500 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: visit to Academy Sports and Outdoors and you said, I 501 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: bought a tent, but that's. 502 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: Not what I want to tell you. I want to 503 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: tell you about this. 504 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: And then you sent me a picture of many tenths 505 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: at Academy Sports and Outdoors and I said, wait a second, 506 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: because I had never seen him. I said, you mean 507 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: to tell me that you bought a full size tent, 508 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: but they've they've got like scaled versions of those tents 509 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: there for you to look at. And he said, yeah, 510 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: like you didn't think it was a big deal. 511 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: I thought it was cool. And since we have a 512 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: partnership with Academy. 513 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: The next day I hit up Nick, our sales guy 514 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: attached to us like Vellacrow, and I said, Nick, I 515 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: need you to get in touch with Mayer and over 516 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: at Academy, and I want to know if we can 517 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: get some of those I want a mini tent for 518 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: the set. And they did not send me one mini tent. 519 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: That's the bad news. The good news is they sent 520 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: us three. And we have a nameless, faceless production executive 521 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: Minion in the house tonight and he's going to bring 522 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: as soon as I clear a spot off one of 523 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 2: the many tents out here. I think one is one 524 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: of the most amazing things I've ever seen. If you're 525 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: listening on podcasts, you just need to understand this is 526 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: a full Magell intent. 527 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't pretend to know the. 528 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: Ins and outs of these things, but much like Vana White, 529 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: I can kind of run my hand over it. It's 530 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: got kind of a mixture of a wheel of fortune 531 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: feel with a price's right feel in the studio right now. 532 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: But it's springtime, and I think, why listen to me 533 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: talk about what you can get from academy sports and 534 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: outdoors when you can just see what you can get 535 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: from academy sports and outdoors. And if I'm being real 536 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: with you, I know it's scaled. This tent looks nicer 537 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: than the first apartment that I stayed in. It certainly 538 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: looks nicer than what our office looked like up until 539 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: about what last week. Yeah, so this is a beautiful tent. 540 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: I don't know what the price tag is on this. 541 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: I know the mini tent was free for us. And look, 542 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: we are blessed hashtag blessed beyond measure here. But this 543 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: right here would fit perfectly in any national park or 544 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 2: maybe in your backyard or down through the woods at 545 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: the end of the cul de Sac. 546 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how you live your life. 547 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: I don't know where you live, but I'm just saying, 548 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: this is a sturdy mini tent. 549 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: I got to imagine the parent version of this tent. 550 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: This is the child tent the parent version of this 551 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: tent's got to look pretty good too. But whether it 552 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: be softball, we hope to be playing that soon here, 553 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: whether it be baseball, whether it be football, soccer, all 554 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 2: kinds of stuff going on outside, or you just want 555 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: to hit up a camping trip Academy sport and outdoors. Okay, 556 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: so now we snap the fingers twice. Production menion comes 557 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: back in, takes the tent, and that's that our first 558 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: ever prop that we've used on the show. We rehearsed 559 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: that and it went about as well as I think 560 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: it could have gone. Before I move on, though, I 561 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: got to tell you at a long conversation with Nick 562 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: actually yesterday, two shout outs for Nick, and what you 563 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: guys do with Academy is really incredible. What our audience 564 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 2: does with Academy is really incredible. There are a lot 565 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: of metrics in our industry wherein partners try and measure 566 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: what the value of a partnership has meant to them, 567 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: and whatever those metrics normally are, ours is always like 568 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: way way way through the roof, because we have had 569 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 2: our audience take Academy and just weave them into the 570 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: fabric of the show. I can't do that. I can 571 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: just tell you what I would love for you to do, 572 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: But you guys have done that because it's not really 573 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: a show. 574 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: It's a lot more community. 575 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: So you've latched onto that and we all benefit because 576 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: of it. Not just because we get mini tenths, let's 577 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: be real, that's nice, but because it lets us do 578 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: whatever we want to. You don't have to pay for 579 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: this show, you know, we don't have to put it 580 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: on Patreon. We don't have to do any of that 581 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: because Academy's there for us, because you've been there for Academy. 582 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: So I appreciate you guys for that. Okay, now we 583 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: move on. Can't stop looking at the mini tent? Now, 584 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: all right, we move on. Here here's a question from 585 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: official Ohio State DG. He said, for twenty twenty two, 586 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: is Texas back more likely? 587 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: Or is Sark gone more likely? Now? To me, this 588 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: didn't take long to answer. 589 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: Like I was trying to envision a scenario where Sark 590 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: was gone outside of scandal. 591 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: I don't even know how that would happen. 592 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: I mean Texas could bomb this year and go let's 593 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: say five and seven, that was what they were I 594 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: think last year five and seven. 595 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: Again, I don't think he'd be fire. 596 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: He'd certainly be in a lot of you know, trouble, 597 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: if you want to call it, that, he'd be under 598 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure. I don't think he'd be gone, 599 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: especially when you factor in percentage wise, what the odds 600 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: are that they're back this year, and by back, I 601 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: think we're talking about Big twelve championship contention. 602 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: I think there's a much greater chance of that. 603 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: Let's remember what's happening there. You've got the number one 604 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: quarterback in America from two recruiting cycles ago. Now you've 605 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: got him on campus. I presumably he'll be your starter. 606 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: Maybe that means a lot this year. Maybe it doesn't, 607 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: but it certainly doesn't mean nothing. They recruited very well 608 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: along the lines of scrimmage this past recruiting cycle. They've 609 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 2: gotten a ton of influx of talent from the transfer portal. 610 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 2: How all that gels remains to be seen. Yes, we 611 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: all understand that, but there are reasons to be a 612 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: lot more optimistic this year than there were last year. 613 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: So certainly you could have it just not come together. 614 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: We could end up finding out that this staff wasn't 615 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: what we thought it would be. It's way too early 616 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: to know either way, I think. But then thirdly, you 617 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: could take all that and you could take them a 618 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: negative of potential scenarios. I think there are far more 619 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: likely pads where Texas is a nine or ten win 620 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: team than they are a five win team this upcoming year. Now, 621 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: keep in mind they open with ul Monroe, but they've 622 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: got Alabama in there in Week two. Now, that Alabama 623 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: game could go a number of different ways. That could 624 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: be a forty nine to thirteen drubbing, or it could 625 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: be a thirty eight to thirty one loss. I mean, 626 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: of course they could pull the upset, but even if 627 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: they lose to Alabama, there are different ways they could 628 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: lose that game, which goes back to one of the 629 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: big lies in football. You are what your record says, 630 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: you are not all the time, and you know a 631 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: win is a win, a loss is a loss. 632 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: That's not always the case either. 633 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: So that Week two in college football with Texas hosting Alabama, 634 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 2: we'll learn a lot there. But I'll also tell you 635 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: this now, probably whenever that Bo Davis ran happened Week ten, 636 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: Week eleven last year, remember how they're there were two camps, 637 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: but really Camp one was pretty small and Camp two 638 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: was pretty large. Camp one was all, this is just 639 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: indicative of a bigger mess at Texas. 640 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: But that wasn't breaking news. That was already there. 641 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: You had brought in a new staff to try and 642 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: rectify that, and they didn't have pixie dust, so it 643 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: didn't happen overnight. But what you saw for the first 644 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: time is you saw someone with that Longhorn logo on 645 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 2: his chest calling out that mess during a season, and 646 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: because someone had a cell phone roll, you got to 647 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: witness it. Camp two, which was disproportionately larger than Camp one, 648 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: didn't laugh at it, and Camp two didn't criticize it. 649 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: Camp two said, well, good for Bo Davis. First off, 650 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: that guy's been at Alabama, he's been around championship teams. 651 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: He knows what it looks like, and he knows what 652 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: he's seeing right now is not that. And then I 653 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: loved the following week how Sark didn't apologize for it. 654 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: If anything, he endorsed it because everything that was said 655 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: was true. And from that point I bookmarked that. I 656 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: talk about it a lot on the show. Still I 657 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: bookmarked that moment because I said, all right, well, those 658 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: are the words. We certainly heard the right words said there, 659 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: and I don't doubt he felt them, and I don't 660 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: doubt that staff feels them. Let's see how much of 661 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: the roster they can turn over. Well, then we got 662 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: into that season and they overturned a big chunk of it, 663 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: and they did bring in a top five recruiting class. 664 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: So everything that you would want to have happen from 665 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: that point moving forward so far has happened right even 666 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: above and beyond your expectation, because you ended up getting 667 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: Quinn Yewers too. 668 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Just got to understand time does march on, but it 669 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: doesn't always march on at the pace you wanted to 670 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: march on at. So if Texas is a seven or eight. 671 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: Win team this year, that doesn't mean it's throwaway time. 672 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully we don't have to worry about that. 673 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: But if you see progress, if you see little saplings 674 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: sprouting up, sometimes that's what it looks like. Sometimes that's 675 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: what growth as a program looks like. But I think 676 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: there is answer to the question, A fur more likely 677 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: chance that we're looking at Texas at the December twenty 678 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: twenty mark and saying, hey, I kind of think they're back, 679 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: then we are saying, Wow, who's Texas about the hires 680 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: their next head coach. Now that I've campaigned for Sark, 681 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: let's talk about something I think we. 682 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: All agree on. 683 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: Flow grown Gator asks, Well, let me rephrase. Flow grown 684 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: Gator says, I'm of the opinion that the national Championship 685 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: Game should be held on Saturday, not Monday. Any chance 686 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: that change will ever happen? The answer here is, in 687 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: all likelihood no, up until you elect me Commissioner of 688 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: College Football and I hit you with the executive order 689 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: which everyone has to abide by. Even TV networks have 690 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: to abide by an EO from the Commissioner's office. 691 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: But up until that point. 692 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: And that could be weeks down the road. Up until 693 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: that point, No, this thing's not moving off Monday night. 694 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: The college basketball National Championship Game is not moving off 695 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 2: Monday night. Virtually no one likes this, well, virtually no 696 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: one in our world likes it. By our world, I 697 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: don't mean the broadcast world. Forget about that. I don't 698 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: work for CBS. Right now, I am you. We don't 699 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 2: like it. College football fans don't like it. No one 700 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: likes the title game being on a Monday night. Your 701 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: entire sport is built on a Saturday platform, and it's 702 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: built on campuses, and then all of a sudden, you've 703 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: got a postseason structure that takes the most important games 704 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: and they throw them in lifeless NFL venues and they 705 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: put them on weird dates, and then it culminates with 706 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: a Monday night game that's not over until after midnight 707 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: on the East Coast, and everyone's thinking, now I got 708 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: to go to work in the morning, How stupid is this? 709 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: And so the answer here would clearly be to move 710 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: this to Saturday. 711 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: But I need you to be aware of something. 712 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: Just as soon as you and I start talking amongst 713 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: ourselves about how great a Saturday National Championship game would 714 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: be and how there's a super majority consensus opinion on 715 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: this that we want this, you've got to beware of 716 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: the intellectual casual. They lurk amongst us, And the intellectual 717 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: casual is the one with a very very tightly tied 718 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: bow tie or a very snug sweater vest. And they've 719 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: probably got the glasses on, even if they aren't prescription frames, 720 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: just to wear them around you, and they're gonna sit 721 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: you down and they're gonna tell you ahem. You know, 722 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: we can't have this for reasons you don't quite understand, 723 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: and go take a shower you probably haven't today, and 724 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: when you come back, I'll explain to you why Monday 725 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 2: night is prime television real estate and Saturday night is 726 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: a dead zone and it would not make financial sense 727 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: to put the title game there. They explain these things 728 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: to you like you don't know that, like pretty standard 729 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: operating procedure to understand that game's got to be there 730 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: for a reason. Even if you've never worked in a 731 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: high rise in Manhattan, and you've never broken down quarterlies 732 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: and you've never looked at rintrack numbers and Nielsen numbers. 733 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: Everyone knows in sub shape, form or fashion, there's got 734 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: to be a financial, in business related reason why that 735 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: game's on a Monday night. 736 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: We all get that. Just don't care. 737 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: And secondly, I have grown to really question a lot 738 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: of this logic. And by that I mean I work 739 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: in this business. I can have this, I can have 740 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 2: this dumbed down to me all the time and explain 741 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: to me. 742 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: But here's what I know, and here's what you know. 743 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: Good and well, you know your viewership habits have changed 744 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: over the last fifteen years, and there is a lot 745 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: of very very grandfathered in logic about TV windows and 746 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: which nights work and which nights don't work that I 747 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: think is obsolete. Now here's what I know. When you 748 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: have an event, they'll find your event. So then the 749 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 2: intellectual casual will come back in the room and say, 750 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: uh uh, we're not looking to just appeal to the 751 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 2: diehard college football fan. We're looking to appeal to well, 752 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: the casuals amongst us. If you have an event and 753 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 2: it is valuable and it is wanted by the public, 754 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to reiterate, in the modern digital media age, 755 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 2: they will go find it wherever it is and whenever 756 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: it is. So in the future, no, this is probably 757 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: not going to because I don't think that there is 758 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: a very smart conversation that's been had about this for 759 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: a long time. But I'm telling you, if we move 760 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: that game to Saturday, you and I would be happy, 761 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 2: and the sport wouldn't suffer at all, and the game 762 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't suffer at all, and the you know, the dollars 763 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: you make off of it wouldn't suffer at all, or 764 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: if they did, it would be negligible. But no one 765 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: likes Monday night National Championship Games. 766 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: Nobody does. 767 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: Have you ever met someone who says to you, you know, 768 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: what I really love about this sport is that we 769 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: get to have. 770 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: The title games on Monday night. No one likes that. 771 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: No one moving on. 772 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: I'm passionate about it. We do it an annual plea 773 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: for that. It always goes unheard, but that's okay. We 774 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: do an annual plea about that. They're watching us tonight 775 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: in Draper, Utah. I mentioned that earlier, but I did 776 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: not tell you Rocky Mountain theme here. They're watching us 777 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: in Steamboat Springs, Colorado. Uh well, actually this is not 778 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: Rocky Mountain themed at all, because they're watching us in 779 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: Cedar Rapids, Iowa. And got it on good authority. Shout 780 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 2: out number two. If they're watching us in Russellville, Arkansas. 781 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 2: Thank you wherever you are watching or listening, and whenever 782 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 2: you do it, I know a lot of you won't 783 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: be listening into this until Monday afternoon or Monday evening. 784 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. Subscribe to the pod, subscribe to the YouTube channel. 785 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: That's all I ask. Everything we ask you to do 786 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: is free razorback shenanigans. 787 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: Is that the name. 788 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm seeing, Yeah, razorback Shenanigans with a fascinating question here. 789 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: I had to get help from the fictitious director Colin 790 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: and fictitious producer Jesse. Today on this, he said, what 791 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: will be the next implementation of technology in college football? 792 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: I'll give you what I thought about first, and then 793 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: I'll give you what they thought about. 794 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: What they thought about is very common. It's right in 795 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: front of your face. 796 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: I should have thought about it earlier, but I was 797 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 2: thinking along different lines. I was thinking about virtual reality, 798 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 2: and it's already being used a lot, but I also 799 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 2: thought about lucid dreaming. Now this is out there, so 800 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to follow me on this. But I 801 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: know the US military discovered long ago that the best 802 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: way to mentally train elite fighters is to control how 803 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: they sleep and to control what they dream when they sleep. 804 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes this was done a little sketch aplete, but if 805 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: you can control a lucid dream cycle, then you can 806 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 2: control how someone is sleeping. And also, it turns out 807 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: science has shown us that the way you handle yourself 808 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: when you're lucid dreaming, that's that really really deep sleep 809 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: where you feel like you weigh about five hundred pounds, 810 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: and you're so aware in the dream as if it's 811 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 2: real life. The way you handle yourself in that state 812 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: of sleep is largely the way that you would make 813 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: your decisions if it were real life. So in a 814 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: militaristic sense, why put you out on the battlefield when 815 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 2: we can simulate it here and we get the same 816 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 2: result without any casualties. 817 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: Well, in college football, the states aren't quite that high, 818 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: But I wonder if there's a day that comes not 819 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: where we can replace the physicality of practice. 820 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: We'll never replace that. You've got to have your body 821 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: physically ready. But I wonder if there ever comes a 822 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: smarter way to mentally prepare guys and coaches too. I'm 823 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: a believer younger head coaches exist now than ever have 824 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: before because of the technological advances in this game that 825 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: allow you to expose yourself to thousands to tens to 826 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of observed repetitions of all sorts of 827 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 2: things that you normally would have had to coach a 828 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: lifetime to experience. I mean what Kirby Smart's mid forties now, 829 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: and that guy's probably seen more with his eyes. He 830 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: has been exposed to more than some coaches that a 831 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: generation ago were sixty seventy years old, just cause technologies 832 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: allowed him to do that well. I wonder as players 833 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: and coaches in the future, I wonder if what you're 834 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: doing when you're asleep becomes part of that. Also wonder 835 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: about virtual reality and how you can simulate mentally the 836 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: repetition that you get in a football sense without having 837 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: to risk injury. There cannot ever be a day where 838 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: you replace pure physicality. 839 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: I understand that. I'm talking about supplementing that. Now. 840 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: As for direct Colin and producer Jesse, they said, what 841 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: about end game technology? And this is the obvious one. 842 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: I've screamed this from the mountaintops and then I forgot 843 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: about it when one of you asked the question, how 844 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 2: we don't have microchips and footballs and lasers shot across 845 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 2: the field to pick up true spotting of balls in 846 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two is nuts to me. 847 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: Think about the moon landing. 848 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: Think about the all the incredible advances that we've made 849 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: as a society. Some of these things happened fifty plus 850 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: years ago, and we cannot even get a true spot 851 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 2: of a football in twenty twenty two, and the entire 852 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: setting is controlled. This is not the moon, This is 853 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: not Bruce Willis on the asteroid where everything's unpredictable. We 854 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 2: control the setting, We control the broadcast, We control the field, 855 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: We control the parameters, everything, the dimensions we created, We 856 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 2: made the game. How do we not have microchip technology 857 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: in footballs? I don't mean one chip, I mean go 858 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 2: through the seams of the football, So on every part 859 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: of that ball there is a micro crow chip ability 860 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: to where it corresponds with a laser that is shot 861 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: across the field to determine a true spot. 862 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: How many times in a college. 863 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: Football game and NFL for that matter, on Saturdays and 864 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: Sundays do you watch a third and short and you're 865 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: sitting there waiting with baited breath to wonder if a 866 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: guy made it? 867 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: And you're watching and you realize there's a sixty seven. 868 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 2: Year old linesman who's running out here, and my fate, 869 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: whether it be this betting ticket I have or this 870 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: team I've rooted for all year, and my fingernails have 871 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: been chewed to the numb our, fate rests on where 872 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 2: he thinks this. 873 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: Ball is supposed to be. 874 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: And it gets even worse tenfold when you get down 875 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 2: near the goal line, and inevitably, if you got a 876 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: goal to go and you got half a yard between 877 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 2: you and the end zone, no one's going five wide 878 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: if they have any sense about themselves, and inevitably you're 879 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: gonna have a c just a massive humanity. 880 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: They're on the goal line. No one knows. 881 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 2: Where to spot that ball. We've watched this happen in 882 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: ball season this past year. If you're watching right now, 883 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: this was not rule to touchdown on pure insanity, and 884 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 2: think about how easy this could be rectified, especially at 885 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: the goal line. If you don't want to microchip and 886 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 2: laser the whole field, at least have laser technology at 887 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 2: the goal line. At least have a strip that's run 888 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: across the front of the goal line that corresponds with 889 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: the microchip and the football to where we know. As 890 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 2: long as you can watch visually and know where forward 891 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: progress was stopped, we know where the football was. We'll 892 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 2: never have to guess where the football was. Instead, we've 893 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: got just ridiculousness that's so unnecessary. 894 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: There's some stuff in this game we can't take out. 895 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: The occasional injury. 896 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: We could legislate all we want to we cannot take 897 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 2: injuries totally out of the game. Poor spots that change 898 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 2: the outcomes of games. We can take that out of 899 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: the game tomorrow. And yet anytime you bring this up, 900 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: I think we have super majority consensus agreement on this too, 901 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 2: and yet we never. 902 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: Hear anything about it. When When does the rules committee? 903 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: When do they ever propose stuff to rectify this? They don't. 904 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 905 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 2: Again, that's one of my many executive orders on day 906 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 2: one in office as your college football commissioner. I've got 907 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 2: something special to show you here. So let's take a 908 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: look at the question. First, we developed a rule on 909 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 2: the show last week, and well darned if they weren't 910 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 2: paying attention to East Lansing, Michigan. They call me, Rojo asks, 911 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: are you really that confident that Michigan State can make 912 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: the playoff under Meltucker? The Big Ten East is already 913 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 2: stacked hashtag pate State. Well, I've made some comments that 914 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: are pretty strong about Michigan State as of late, and 915 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: I said, I thought there were some things happening up there. 916 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 2: I thought the program may be on a trajectory that 917 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: we haven't seen before. And if that's the case, and 918 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: it continues, then it's at least reasonable to wonder if 919 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: they're capable of doing things we haven't seen before. 920 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: Michigan State's made the playoff. 921 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 2: They made it the second year, I think, in twenty fifteen, 922 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: but certainly in. 923 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: This era, the era of the super Team and. 924 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: The era of the have and the have not, we 925 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 2: rarely have seen a program cross that bridge. And I'm 926 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: looking and I'm thinking, maybe those ingredients exist at Michigan 927 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 2: State to do something irregular. Now, I vocalized all that, 928 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 2: and then we made a rule last week on the 929 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: show that if Late Kick appears in your spring hype 930 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: video or any hype video that you put out, if 931 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 2: you put us in your videos, we are putting you 932 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: on this show, and we're playing the entire video. Well, there, 933 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 2: I am walking out of the gym the other day 934 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: and my dms blow up, and it's one after another 935 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: of you from Michigan and the surrounding area saying, take 936 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 2: a look at what our creative services department did, And 937 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: why tell you what they did when we can just 938 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 2: roll it ourselves. 939 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:40,959 Speaker 1: Take a look. 940 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: I can tell my answer here is going to be 941 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: different than yours. My answer is yes, I think Michigan 942 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 2: State can win a. 943 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: National championship in the next decade. 944 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: I think that because I think that there are things 945 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: that are going to happen there under Meltucker that are 946 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 2: irregu in historic nature. 947 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: I was on the field when they beat Michigan. That 948 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: was about so much more than beating Michigan. 949 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 2: That was about announcing to the world, with all the 950 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 2: pregame shows in town and the spotlight on East Lansing, 951 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 2: that this is a place where you can come, not 952 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 2: just as a backup option, but as a premier option. 953 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: You got offers from Ohio State come here anyway, You 954 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 2: got to offers from Clemsing in Alabama, think about coming 955 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: here anyway. Because we've got a pretty special thing going 956 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: on up here, and it's only just begun. 957 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: We're not interested in just winning games. We want to 958 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: be great. We want to compete for championships. 959 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 2: But if we want to compete for championships, we gotta make. 960 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: A commitment every day to getting that much better. And 961 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: then we get that much better by having great teammates, 962 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: a great team leaders. Tell um. 963 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: Talk, fill me all, you. 964 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: Gotta get more, all gotta get bumped. Everybody's looking downstairs. 965 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 2: I did everything that I could do for you go back. 966 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna reiterate that now. 967 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if people think Michigan State is or 968 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: is it capable of filling the blank. If you know 969 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 2: you're capable of it, that's all that matters. And so 970 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 2: Mel Tucker, I'll tell you this, he is recruiting with 971 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 2: an energy at Michigan State. I've never seen anyone recruit 972 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: with there. 973 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: Rules of rules. 974 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 2: You put us in the high video, We're gonna play it. 975 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: Thank you to h our friends at Michigan State. And 976 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 2: that's a number that is that is ballooning as we speak. 977 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: Got to go up there for the first time this 978 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 2: past year. Will not my last time going up there. 979 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: Do I believe all that? 980 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say it on the show if I 981 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 2: didn't believe it. So notice what was said and what 982 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 2: wasn't said. That wasn't a specific year for a prediction. 983 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 2: It's not a twenty twenty two prediction. It's a very 984 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: generic observation. But what's happening up there. What's happening up 985 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 2: there is there are a lot of kids that are 986 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 2: looking at Michigan State right now that normally wouldn't have 987 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: looked at them. When I was up there on campus, 988 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 2: there was just a different energy about the place. And 989 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: the thing about it is, sure, I'm an outsider, but 990 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 2: I know from listening to folks who have been there 991 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 2: a long time observationally, and when they echo that same sentiment, 992 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 2: you realize, this may be my first time here, but 993 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm not so stupid as to not realize I'm witnessing 994 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 2: something special right along with these folks who have been 995 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 2: here for a long time. And the thing about it 996 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: is they know it. You know, lifers, Michigan State lifers. 997 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 2: They know what has been and even under the best 998 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 2: of circumstances, they know what their program hasn't hasn't been 999 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 2: capable of, And all of a sudden, it just feels 1000 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 2: like this seal has been broken. And you don't know what. 1001 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 1: The future holds. 1002 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: You don't know what the records will end up being 1003 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: and what the accomplishments will be. But man, it's hard 1004 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 2: not to feel good about the direction of Michigan State 1005 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 2: football right now. And when you don't pretend, when you 1006 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: pretend like you don't have limitations, or you just eliminate 1007 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 2: them entirely, forget about what history says we are and 1008 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 2: aren't capable of. You know, forget about what the rest 1009 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 2: of college football says we are and aren't capable of. 1010 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 2: They did a lot of stuff last year they weren't 1011 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 2: supposed to be capable of doing. And that's at the 1012 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 2: very infancy of this program, in this tenure in the staff. 1013 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 2: So I think they're capable of whatever they want to 1014 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 2: be capable of in the future. 1015 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm really excited. 1016 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 2: It's one of my programs I've got circled, so I'm 1017 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: really excited to watch them. But yes, so I don't 1018 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 2: think that'll be the last hype video that we appear in. 1019 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: Just know, those are the rules you put us in 1020 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: the hype video. 1021 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: We're putting you on the show. We appreciate that. 1022 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: We had one more question, I think Colin or Jesse, 1023 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 2: I think one more Yeah, So just a dude hit 1024 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 2: us up and said, please describe what twenty four hours 1025 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 2: in the life of a stormchaser is like intense windy 1026 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 2: to quote the late Philip Seymour Hoffman. I got one 1027 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 2: of these coming up Wednesday again. So across the fingers 1028 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 2: there's our generic Nado video that we shot on the eye. 1029 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: Josh from oh Man Billingsley, Alabama a couple years ago. 1030 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 2: It starts really early. Normally you're on the road, starts 1031 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 2: really early. You got to look at model guidance in 1032 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 2: the high res solutions are coming out by that time, 1033 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: so you got a really good idea of day of setup, 1034 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 2: and so you're trying to isolate. Like the other day, 1035 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 2: I started the day in Tuscaloosa, drove down the Meridian, 1036 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 2: met up with our chase team from Arkansas. I going 1037 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 2: to tell you a lot more about them, probably going 1038 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 2: to ask you to subscribe to their channel later this 1039 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 2: week more on that. If you want to watch me 1040 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 2: live streamed while I'm chasing tornadoes, we can do that. 1041 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: And then you just try and stay up to the minute, 1042 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 2: and you try and coordinate. You've got to position yourself. 1043 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 2: You don't want to go chase one rogue cell like 1044 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 2: we almost got caught doing the other day and miss 1045 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 2: three or four more that spin up to your south. 1046 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 2: So it's somewhat of a guessing game. You try and 1047 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: be as guided in that guessing as possible. But also 1048 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: if you chase in the area of the country that 1049 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 2: we chase in, which largely is the southeast, it is treacherous. 1050 00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: It's not like the great planes. 1051 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 2: It's not like being able to chase in Wichita or 1052 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: Broken Arrow or anywhere in like Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska where 1053 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 2: you can see seven miles on any direction on the horizon. 1054 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: It is a crapshoot. 1055 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 2: In Mississippi, where I'll be probably again this Wednesday, Alabama, 1056 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: especially western portions of Alabama. 1057 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: I've chased in Georgia. You get in those areas, especially 1058 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 1: like south and southwest Mississippi, pine trees all over the place. 1059 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: It's tough, so you gotta be very careful also because 1060 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to get yourself down in a situation 1061 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,720 Speaker 1: where you cannot maneuver if you want to. No dirt roads, 1062 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 1: especially down in this area, none of that. 1063 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 2: So it all builds up to what you hope will 1064 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 2: be prime firing hours, and normally that's mid to late afternoon. 1065 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 1: Not all the time looks like probably the setup. 1066 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 2: We've got this week, but it goes by so fast 1067 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 2: you lose track of time. It's kind of like doing 1068 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 2: something you love if you've really been if you've been 1069 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 2: locked in a book before, or you've been at a 1070 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 2: sporting event, before you realize it's the theory of relativity. 1071 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 2: You know, an hour can feel like a minute, a 1072 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 2: minute can feel like an hour. Well, when you're chasing 1073 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 2: tornadoes and you love it if you're not terrified, if 1074 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 2: you love it like I do, those hours just feel 1075 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 2: like minutes and you look up and it's like it's 1076 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 2: four o'clock already. 1077 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: How did that happen? 1078 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, then you're racing against daylight, 1079 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 2: and normally that action will fire right as you're losing sunlight, 1080 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 2: and so you got to roll the dice sometimes and 1081 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: you may only have one more cell that you can 1082 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: chase with the daylight that's left, and then those nocturnal 1083 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 2: tornadoes kick in and I. 1084 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 1: Leave that normally for somebody else. But we got a 1085 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: big week coming up. 1086 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 2: I mean it's spring, so it's go time for us 1087 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 2: looking at targeting Mississippi this week probably again TBD on that. 1088 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: Our schedule though, has stayed the same. And I said 1089 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter today and I'm going to reiterate this. 1090 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: I know it's March and a lot of folks have 1091 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 2: flat out quit out there and they'll be back probably 1092 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 2: around SEC media days. But I feel like this question 1093 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 2: and answer format that you guys have helped us with 1094 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 2: over the past few weeks. We've done it during March Madness. 1095 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 2: I've loved it. We've got such variety of content. Director 1096 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 2: Colin Fictitious though he may be even made new thumbnails 1097 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 2: if you've looked on the YouTube channel. 1098 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: So I've loved this. 1099 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 2: I do not ever plan on abandoning going hard in 1100 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 2: the paint in the spring basketball pod there, because you 1101 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 2: guys are still here. As long as you're still here, 1102 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: what you're telling me is you don't want us to 1103 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 2: have an off season, so we don't have one, and 1104 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 2: we got something. Obviously, we got plenty to talk about 1105 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 2: all year. It's fifty one after so we've gone nearly 1106 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,280 Speaker 2: an hour tonight. So I appreciate you guys being tuned 1107 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: in because if you weren't here, we wouldn't do it, 1108 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 2: So I appreciate it. 1109 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: Make sure you're subscribed, subscribe to. 1110 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 2: The pod Spotify. Our numbers are already through the roof Apple. 1111 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 2: If you haven't already do it, and if you have 1112 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 2: already done it, make sure you swipe five friends phones 1113 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 2: and do it on theirs, and do it on the 1114 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 2: YouTube channel too. So look, this conspiracy continues to grow. 1115 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 2: I mean I asked you guys today on Twitter. I said, 1116 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 2: I've never named it conspiracy theory before. So to remind 1117 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 2: some of you what's going on. If you're new here, 1118 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 2: Director Colin is a hard working, best director of the business. 1119 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 1: He's behind the scenes right now. He's like literally through 1120 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,720 Speaker 1: this wall and producer Jesse's over there. Or are they. 1121 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 2: Cause their faces have never been seen. And some of 1122 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 2: you don't believe in theater of the imagination. Some of 1123 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,760 Speaker 2: you just flat out think they don't exist. 1124 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: Now. 1125 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 2: I used to think it was one or two of you, 1126 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 2: and I used to think you were joking. Not all 1127 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 2: of you. Are Some of you dead seriously think that 1128 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 2: they're not real. They could walk on air right now 1129 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 2: if they wanted to, but why they don't owe that 1130 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 2: to you. And so we have one of those good 1131 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 2: old fashioned March college football show conspiracies that we have 1132 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 2: to name. Some people said it should be the lone 1133 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 2: Streamer theory. Some people said it should be calling on. 1134 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: There are a lot of conspiracy theory names that are 1135 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 2: floating around out there. I need a good one, though, 1136 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 2: because I can tell you they're not marching on camera 1137 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 2: anytime soon. They are not going to give you this 1138 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 2: out faction, and so in lieu of that, we got 1139 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 2: a conspiracy. And no one loves a good conspiracy as 1140 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,919 Speaker 2: much as me, aside from possibly my sister, and so 1141 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 2: she may be the one that comes up with a 1142 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,320 Speaker 2: name for this. But in light of this new information, 1143 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 2: we got to have a name. For those of you 1144 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 2: out there whoops. 1145 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: Believe that Colin is not real, Jesse is not real. 1146 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: I cannot confirm more than nine. 1147 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 2: I can thank you for watching it, and I can 1148 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 2: tell you lay Kick Extra podcast will be back in 1149 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 2: its normal slot of Wednesday morning this week, and Lake 1150 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 2: Kicklive will be back in its normal slot of Thursday 1151 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 2: evening this week. And until them, how do you guys, 1152 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 2: have a great start for your week, Take care, appreciate 1153 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 2: you watching me, and God bless