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Speaker 5: Saturday Night Live Go Open with the guy who does Trump.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was so funny, eh boy, the late

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Speaker 5: So I Southern News yesterday that they were going to

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Speaker 5: have a voting session on the Big Beautiful Bill at

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Speaker 5: ten o'clock Sunday night, and because it's the weekend, and

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Speaker 5: I'm a normal human being.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like.

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Speaker 5: Take a second to look into that, because I thought,

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Speaker 5: what the hell kind of a procedural deal is a

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Speaker 5: see that the four holdouts went along with whatever and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the four holdouts went along with whatever is a

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Speaker 4: pretty good description of it. I will be a bit

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Speaker 4: more detailed. And this is the reason I'm disgusted and embittered.

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Speaker 4: This is the most sausagey of sausage making. If you're

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Speaker 4: familiar with the old reference to politics, here's your headline

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Speaker 4: from the WAPO. I'm going to read you just a

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Speaker 2: Trump's tax and immigration.

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Speaker 4: Bill clears Hurtle after late night vote to the House

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Speaker 4: Budget Committee passed a massive tax and immigration package central

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Speaker 4: President Trump's agenda late Sunday, overcoming opposition from hardline conservatives,

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Speaker 4: overspending four fiscal conservatives, all deficit hawks aligned with the

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Speaker 4: old truck conservative House Freedom Caucus, changed their vote to present,

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Speaker 4: allowing the legislative monstrosity. I injected that package to be

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Speaker 4: recommended favorably to the House by a vote of seventeen

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Speaker 4: to sixteen, but their hesitance to vote for the One

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Speaker 4: that the far right flank of the Republican Conference remains skeptical.

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Speaker 2: I think I see where you're going here. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now, it could just be your typical WAHPO journalistic bias,

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Speaker 4: although the WAPO is improved somewhat lately a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I think it's.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately closer to true that I'm comfortable with that there

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Speaker 4: are only a handful of like lunatic hard liners who

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Speaker 4: are against the following headlines. This is from the Richard

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Speaker 4: Ruben writing in The Wall Street Journal. The stark math

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Speaker 4: on the GOP tax planet doesn't cut the deficit.

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Speaker 2: It grows the deficit.

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Speaker 4: The Republican Party, with both Houses of Congress and the

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Speaker 4: White House, are going to grow the deficit. It's undeniable.

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Speaker 4: Next headline, National Review, Republicans should stay the course on

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Speaker 4: reducing medicaid spending. They're not going to. They're running in

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Speaker 4: the other direction, partly because the incredibly smart calculating what

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Speaker 4: is he up to? Josh Cawley of Missouri is all

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Speaker 2: Who led the charge to repeal Obamacare.

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Speaker 4: He's now out schumering Schumer, saying that the party's Wall

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Speaker 4: Street wing, a noisy contingent of corporist Republicans want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned that.

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Speaker 5: On Friday, he wrote that op ed piece that the

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Speaker 5: Republicans need to back off cutting Medicare.

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Speaker 4: Any Well, it's a reform of Medicaid. Any reforms are

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Speaker 4: a hidden tax on working poor people. And this is

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Speaker 4: and he's referring to a thirty five dollars copay for

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Speaker 5: And that's just the calculation that Republicans are now the

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Speaker 5: they Josh Holley at least doesn't want to mess with it.

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Speaker 4: And a yeah, now the party of pandering to and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say that it's interesting they

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Speaker 5: It was, it was a term you would have used

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Speaker 5: to define the party. Fact, it was so intrinsic to

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Speaker 5: I suppose in reality, given where most of the party is,

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Speaker 4: So spending your children, grandchildren into tax and spend oblivion.

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Speaker 5: Well all right, Well, this story got repeated a lot

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Speaker 5: over the weekend that we got downgraded on one of

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Speaker 5: And uh, over the weekend it kind of got put

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Speaker 5: that our debt is just so high. It's just like

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Speaker 5: got with your car payments. Now you bought like eight

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Speaker 5: cars and two houses, and you're just overmaxed.

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Speaker 4: So you have eighty thousand dollars in credit card bills

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Speaker 4: and you only make ninety a year, right, right, So

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Speaker 4: they just dong Grady because you just spend more than

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Speaker 2: That's what happened. That didn't happen just in the last

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Speaker 4: And the final reason I am completely embittered about the

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Speaker 4: on Earth is the fact that, and it's a two

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Speaker 4: part horror show, Part number one is that there are

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Speaker 4: of those incredibly high taxes you're paying, you can deduct

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Speaker 4: subsidize the tax and spend lunacy of New York and California.

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Speaker 5: So my brothers in Kansas pay some of my taxes

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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you get a giant subsidy from the other states.

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Speaker 4: You pay a lower federal tax rate, significantly lower depending

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Speaker 4: in fiscally responsible states, and is indefensible morally. It's indefensible

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Speaker 4: as for Republican reason, not the party, but the idea

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Speaker 4: of we have a federal system than states, and the

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Speaker 4: states can do what they want, and they should.

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Speaker 2: Do what they want.

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Speaker 4: If you're fine, if Massachusetts wants to have a sixty

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Speaker 2: I'm not living there, but go ahead.

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Speaker 4: But then to transfer that profligacy to the other states

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Speaker 4: the idea that that is a plank of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: I'm done.

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Speaker 5: It's it's hard to swallow. I mean, you know, it

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Speaker 5: would help Joe and I if this happens financially. But

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Speaker 5: it's awful, absolutely awful.

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Speaker 2: You I mean, you can't defend it.

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's it's I am horrified. I don't care

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Speaker 4: how much it would benefit me. God bless me. I

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Speaker 4: have principles. It's really held me back in life. Jack too.

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Speaker 4: I just I'm done. I'm done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well.

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Speaker 5: Like I said last week, Sarah Isger of The Dispatch,

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Speaker 5: I heard her on a podcast They're having this discussion

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Speaker 5: about party, and she said, there are no political parties.

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Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I need to seek that out because I think she

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Speaker 4: nailed absolutely, one hundred percent. There are no political parties.

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Speaker 4: There's just whoever emerges as the candidate, cycle by cycle,

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Speaker 4: and then whatever they believe, the party goes along with.

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Speaker 4: And it's true on both sides. So the idea that

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Speaker 2: Need to all move past that.

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Speaker 4: From my hero hl Menken, every election is a sort

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Speaker 4: of advanced auction sale of stolen goods. That's always been true.

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Speaker 4: There was a time when a certain party had certain

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Speaker 2: Do you have time has passed. You know what.

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Speaker 4: My high school sweetheart, college sweetheart, my wife of forty

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Speaker 2: She's not the person she was. It's you can forget it.

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Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. Yeah more Jack Morgio podcasts

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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. Yet another one of these?

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Speaker 2: Do they run this quarterly?

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Speaker 4: Is it some sort of requirement warning issue to anyone

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Speaker 4: A smile face means you're conveying that you're happy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I would say to Hovey's at BESHI, twenty one

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Speaker 2: I own this place. People like me run the world.

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Speaker 2: So you figured out.

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Speaker 5: My son sends me the emoji with the tears streaming

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Speaker 5: it seems to mean something different to freshmen in high

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Speaker 6: But several of my younger friends send me that, which

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it means something's hilarious now, like you're crying, you're

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, the skull is that was really funny. I'm

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Speaker 5: If nothing else, the biggest change in the shortest amount

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Speaker 4: Alicia Finley, who writes for the Journal opinion page, who

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Speaker 4: Analyzing what people are saying so far, including the CEO

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Speaker 4: Technology and especially AI, can stunt this development by doing

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Speaker 4: The The word sinister is Latin for left handed for

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Speaker 4: But I will be utterly stumped. Saturday's the hardest one.

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Speaker 4: Sunday's kind of a mind blank because often there's a

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Speaker 4: trick within the puzzle.

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Speaker 2: But Saturday is really hard.

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Speaker 4: And often I will be completely stumped, and I will

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Speaker 4: go away for an hour two hours. I will come

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Speaker 4: back and I will crush it. What happened there? That's

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Speaker 4: worth thinking about.

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Speaker 5: How I've been utilizing that my whole life, like writing

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Speaker 5: papers for school.

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Speaker 2: I always knew that.

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Speaker 5: If I thought about it, thought about it, thought about it,

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Speaker 5: couldn't come.

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Speaker 2: Up with it. If I slept, I'd wake up and

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Speaker 2: I'd have it. I would have it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, and I won't tell you what does happen.

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Speaker 5: I'm reading this book right now. It's a Graham Green.

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Speaker 5: He's a fantastic author. I've never written his stuff, but

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Speaker 5: he's in this novel I'm reading right now about an author.

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Speaker 5: So he's talking about himself basically. But how writing is

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Speaker 5: something that happens while you're not thinking about it. He says,

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Speaker 5: you're gathering all this information, coming up with plot ideas,

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Speaker 5: and then the writing happens when you're not thinking about it,

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Speaker 5: and then it comes out on the page. So it's

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Speaker 5: just exactly what you're describing. It's your brain is doing

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Speaker 5: something while you're asleep or occupied doing something else, synthesizes

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Speaker 5: it and then it comes out.

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Speaker 4: Or and this is a bit of a quibble, and

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Speaker 4: this is what I was about to say. I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to lecture you, but I now discipline myself harshly

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Speaker 4: using a lash to be bored a certain amount of

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Speaker 4: the day, to be doing nothing, reading nothing, looking at

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Speaker 4: nothing but the trees and the sky and my dog

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Speaker 4: peeing over there. I am committed to being not occupied

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Speaker 4: a certain chunk of the day.

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Speaker 5: So you're like Putty Elaine's boyfriend sitting on the plane

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Speaker 5: just staring at the seatback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine. Do you want something to read? No,

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Speaker 2: I'm a right. Oh anything, crossword puzzle, I'm fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I sat next to a lady like that a few

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Speaker 4: months ago. I think I talked about it on the air,

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Speaker 4: and it was freaking me out. It was weird me out.

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Speaker 4: I was like, is she going to take over the

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Speaker 4: plane or kill me or explode into a rage or

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Speaker 4: this is not natural shoes are going to catch on fire.

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Speaker 4: But take time to daydreams. Seriously.

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Speaker 5: Earlier, we were talking about the new Tesla robotaxis.

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Speaker 2: One of them.

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Speaker 5: Paused in an intersection in Austin or something like that

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Speaker 5: and made some news. But I would see the automated

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Speaker 5: driving on the Tesla, which kind of fits into the

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Speaker 5: AI stuff, is so much better than it was three

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Speaker 5: years ago when I first started writing Tesla.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's night and day, and it's so good now.

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Speaker 5: And I never thought I would have any interest in

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Speaker 5: using automated driving, similar to the first time I ever

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Speaker 5: saw somebody texting and learned about it, I thought, why

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Speaker 5: would anybody do that? And then obviously we all text constantly.

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Speaker 5: Now I use automated driving all the time. When I

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Speaker 5: drive my vehicle that doesn't have it, it seems like, oh,

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Speaker 5: this is kind of a pain in the ass, So convert,

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Speaker 5: don't well, don't pretend you know what things you'll like,

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Speaker 5: and you don't. I know in my own life, I've

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Speaker 5: been proven wrong multiple times.

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Speaker 4: So the NFL is about to change thanks to AI,

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Speaker 4: and they in the Athletic they're talking about how coaches

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Speaker 4: are already using AI to analyze tendencies of opponents and

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Speaker 4: that sort of thing. They use the example of there's

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Speaker 4: a wide gulf between the math used to optimize fourth

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Speaker 4: down decisions and a voiced AI agent telling you to

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Speaker 4: look out for the weak side linebacker while you're sitting

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Speaker 4: alone in your office on a Tuesday night. This assistant

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Speaker 4: coach who's the offensive coordinator for the Falcon says, I'm

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Speaker 4: getting a little scared.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see where this would go. Very quickly,

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Speaker 5: and there are I mean, without even thinking of reading

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Speaker 5: with this or thinking about it, I just AI could

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Speaker 5: crunch the last five years of all the plays. Say,

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Speaker 5: look eighty seven percent of the time, the other team

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Speaker 5: is going to do this in this situation, and you

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Speaker 5: react to it, and then that will be cool up

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Speaker 5: until the point that it's just AI against AI. You know,

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Speaker 5: a season from now.

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Speaker 4: Your computer telling you what play to run in their

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Speaker 4: computer are telling them how to counter it. Having a

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Speaker 4: pretty good idea what's coming. And they're talking about coaches

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Speaker 4: being replaced entirely, but he just already have. This guy

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Speaker 4: was hired by the Raiders as the head coach research specialist,

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Speaker 4: but the job may be better understood as AI coordinator.

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Speaker 4: He uses AI every single day. He's clearly going to happen.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I hadn't thought about this before.

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Speaker 4: This is clearly going to happen.

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Speaker 5: You got super smart people who study, like like maniacs

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Speaker 5: for this stuff to make decisions in the like forty

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Speaker 5: five seconds you have before between plays or whatever it is,

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Speaker 5: and now AI.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be able to do it. Let me

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Speaker 2: read you some of this.

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Speaker 4: I feel pretty confident saying that some team is going

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Speaker 4: to win a Super Bowl in the next few years

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Speaker 4: utilizing AI at a very high rate, significantly higher than

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Speaker 4: it's ever been used before, said this coach. It's really

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to differentiate your differentiate yourself from a team

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Speaker 4: that might have a more talented roster.

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Speaker 2: Better coaches or whatnot.

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Speaker 4: Ruin, there's just going to be more and more separation

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Speaker 4: with teams that are have bought in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they might have to outlaw that. I mean because

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Speaker 5: it's similar to when computers got better at chess than

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Speaker 5: humans and people thought that'd be the end of chess

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Speaker 5: or whatever. No, people still like watching the best humans

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Speaker 5: play each other, even though they're a computer out there

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Speaker 5: could beat either.

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Speaker 2: One of them.

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Speaker 5: Who cares? You still want to know who the best

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Speaker 5: human is. I think knowing who the best humans are

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Speaker 5: at guessing the plays is more fun than two computers

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Speaker 5: battling it out right.

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Speaker 4: It'll be so interesting to see how the league and

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Speaker 4: the rules adapt to this and how people will then cheat.

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Speaker 4: Because they're talking about there are systems that can watch

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Speaker 4: game film, sure of multiple teams, multiple games, analyze it

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Speaker 4: come up with the probabilities. The next layer, they say

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Speaker 4: is understanding personnel as well, because, as they put it,

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Speaker 4: Fourth and One with Mike Vick and Algae Crumpler looks

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Speaker 4: a lot different than Fourth and One with Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: and Kyle Bitts.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I fear for that. Hey, I will figure that

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Speaker 2: out because they can take it into much of give

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Speaker 2: it a week. Armstrong and Genny Christmas Shopping. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 2: so tough.

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Speaker 8: It can feel like you're just buying a bunch of

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Speaker 8: random stuff. Get focus, stand, spend your money right. We've

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Speaker 8: got the perfect gift, but special person in your life.

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Speaker 8: The Armstrong and Gunny super Stone Shop Now, I'm Strong

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Speaker 8: and Ganny.

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Speaker 1: Dot Com The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 7: Eight months after the election, Democrats are still trying to

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Speaker 7: dig themselves out of a hole, but a new poll

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Speaker 7: from the Wall Street Journal paints a bleak picture. It

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Speaker 7: reveals only thirty three percent of registered voters today view

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Speaker 7: Democrats favorably, while a staggering sixty three percent see them negatively.

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Speaker 7: That's the worst rating from the same poll since nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 4: At Saisha Hasny on Special Report Last Night with Brett Brettbaar,

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Speaker 4: Fox News Slash so Yes Analysis in a Moment I

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Speaker 4: found this next segment pretty interesting though.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Aisha. We're in the doghouse yet again.

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Speaker 5: We certainly do have a problem, and it's a messaging problem.

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Speaker 7: If messaging is the problem, the new poll signals Democrats

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Speaker 7: attacking President Trump isn't working at least yet. That's because

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Speaker 7: even when more voters disapprove of Trump on issues like inflation,

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Speaker 7: they still trust congressional Republicans more than Democrats to handle

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Speaker 7: that issue by a whopping ten points. On immigration, the

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Speaker 7: same thing, More voters disapprove of Trump's handling of the matter,

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Speaker 7: but Republicans once again are trusted more than Democrats to

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Speaker 7: manage it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I believe this analysis that people

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Speaker 5: have been going with. I think it's the crazy factor.

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Speaker 5: It's the uh, I don't know. You've got a friend

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Speaker 5: who does a few things that are just so crazy

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Speaker 5: you don't trust his judgment on anything else.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what's driving it. It's not that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Democrats view of the economy is specifically blah

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Speaker 5: blah blah.

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Speaker 9: It said, you're the people that want boys plan girls.

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Speaker 9: You're the people that want me to say LATINEX. You're

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Speaker 9: the people that think we shouldn't have police. I don't

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Speaker 9: trust you on anything. I think it's the crazy factor.

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Speaker 9: Yeah you put a grown man in my little girl's

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Speaker 9: locker room. Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 4: But to her point though, and it's not in contrast

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Speaker 4: to your point, it's agreeing with it. So like on

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Speaker 4: inflation and rising prices, Trump is eleven points underwater, okay,

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Speaker 4: but the Republicans in general are ten points to the positive.

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Speaker 4: So what Trump's doing right now on immigration he sees

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Speaker 4: just three points underwater, but generally speaking Republicans that are

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Speaker 4: Democrats seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Point advantage for Republicans.

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Speaker 4: So there are momentarily momentary quibbles with the way Trump

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Speaker 4: is approaching this, that or the other, But in terms

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Speaker 4: of general philosophy that I don't care. I want the Republicans,

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Speaker 4: which again I don't think disagrees with your point.

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Speaker 2: I think it agrees with it.

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Speaker 4: Why do they have that percent or why do they

625
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Speaker 4: lean so strongly that way?

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Speaker 2: Because they think that Democrats have lost their effing mind.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, So the Democrats are thirty three percent favorable,

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Speaker 4: sixty three percent unfavorable, far weaker assessment than voters give

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Speaker 4: to either President Trump or the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're underwater.

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Speaker 4: But of course political parties ought to be underwater, remember

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Speaker 4: when you got their opponents, and number two you got

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Speaker 4: neutrals or independence and their own party members who'd like

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Speaker 4: them to change what they're.

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Speaker 2: Doing a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, Trump is seven percent underwater and Republicans are

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Speaker 4: eleven percent underwater. But again keep in mind, the Democrats

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Speaker 4: are thirty points underwater.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as always that number of people that are unhappy

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Speaker 5: with the Democrats, it's a certain chunk who think they're crazy,

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Speaker 5: like I was just talking about, and a certain chunk,

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Speaker 5: smaller chunk, but a certain chunk that thinks they haven't

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Speaker 5: gone far enough, they haven't stuck to their guns on

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Speaker 5: I's issues and defunding the police and climate change and

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Speaker 5: all the other important things.

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Speaker 4: Which is even worse news, really, But a mere eight

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Speaker 4: percent of voters view the Democrats very favorably, two and

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Speaker 4: a half times as many have the same level of

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Speaker 4: enthusiasm for the GOP.

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Speaker 5: I we got a long way to go on what direction?

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Speaker 5: You know what the Democratic Party is going to look

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Speaker 5: like next presidential election. But I keep hearing people like

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Speaker 5: smart people throughout AOC is the current front runner slash

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Speaker 5: face of the Democratic Party, and she probably is.

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Speaker 2: Who else would have doomed They are doomed, doomed. If

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Speaker 2: it was you that go ahead, try it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who else would it be as a

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Speaker 4: rhetorical question, but the answer is a blue state governor

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Speaker 4: who's a moderate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's got to be a human being so

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Speaker 5: that yeah, you're right, but it's got to be an

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Speaker 5: actual name at some point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I could throw out a list, but nobody,

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Speaker 4: nobody is talking about Bill Clinton. Nobody's throw We're talking

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Speaker 4: about Bill Clinton even after he entered Sure, Armstrong and

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Speaker 4: Getty