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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of Clay in Buck starts right now.

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Speaker 2: Clay and I are down here in South Florida preparation,

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Speaker 2: of course, for some important stuff going on, like the

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Speaker 2: GOP debate down here in Miami. So we're enjoying the

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Speaker 2: weather and the free state of Florida, the freedom that

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Speaker 2: is afforded the residence here. It's a great place. We've

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Speaker 2: got election day today, a lot of stuff going on here.

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Speaker 2: You have voters in a lot of states, a lot

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Speaker 2: of municipal election stuff going on, but some big things

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Speaker 2: happening in Ohio, Kentucky. Can Cameron pull it off?

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Speaker 3: Clay, everybody, let's just say this right off the top,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Cameron, if you live in the state of Kentucky

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Speaker 3: and you are listening to us right now, and you

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Speaker 3: are not out at the polls, you haven't already voted,

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Speaker 3: you haven't told everyone around you.

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Speaker 2: To go vote.

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Speaker 3: If you don't hold Andy Basheer responsible for what he

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Speaker 3: did for COVID, and also if you don't hold him

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Speaker 3: responsible for the fact that if something happened to Rand Paul,

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Speaker 3: you know he was attacked by his neighbor has had

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Speaker 3: serious health related conditions. If something happened to Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 3: but Sheer would appoint a Democrat. He's already said that

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Speaker 3: in direct contravention of Kentucky state law.

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Speaker 2: Andy Basheer needs to lose.

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Speaker 3: Of all the elections that are going on today, Buck,

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Speaker 3: and there are a lot of important elections.

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Speaker 2: Everybody needs to get out and vote.

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Speaker 3: Kentucky has the opportunity to send the biggest statement to

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Speaker 3: the nation about holding a politician accountable for all his failures.

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Speaker 2: I've also got big things happening on the election front

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Speaker 2: in Virginia, Mississippi. We'll talk to you about a number

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Speaker 2: of these important races. All one hundred and forty seats,

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Speaker 2: for example, in Virginia's General Assembly are on the ballot today,

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Speaker 2: and Glenn Youngkin, who we've had on this program, the

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Speaker 2: governor of Virginia, is trying very hard to help get

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Speaker 2: a big red wave in that state and to flip

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Speaker 2: the entirety of the General Assembly to a red majority,

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Speaker 2: a Republican majority. So that's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: And then some other There's a lot of big political

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Speaker 3: stories out right now. Obviously it's election day, but also

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Speaker 3: we've got the GOP debate tomorrow will give you a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a sense of.

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Speaker 2: What we think we may see there. Although to clearly

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Speaker 2: tomorrow that'll be a major topic of discussion here. We

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Speaker 2: know who has qualified for that stage, we know who

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Speaker 2: will not be on the stage, which is in some

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Speaker 2: ways the central story still the man who will not

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Speaker 2: be there, Donald J. Trump and his enormous lead still

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Speaker 2: in the polls. Will discuss that RFK Junior in swing states.

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Speaker 2: This is very interesting. We want to get into that

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Speaker 2: as well. The numbers that he is pulling right now

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Speaker 2: in the polls, particularly among the younger demographic of voters,

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Speaker 2: is well, it's election changing if it's real, So that's

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Speaker 2: worth discussing. But I will start her this. You know Iowa,

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Speaker 2: the Iowa cox is not that far away. And the

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Speaker 2: governor of Iowa, Kim Reynolds, came out last night and

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Speaker 2: made an official endorsement for who she thinks should be

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Speaker 2: the next president the United States, who should be the

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Speaker 2: Republican nominee, And it was for Governor ron to Samtis

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Speaker 2: of Florida. I wanted do you hear this? And Clay

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Speaker 2: I wanted to hear your reaction to the all in

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Speaker 2: on Iowa strategy play for when the liberals and.

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Speaker 4: Media came after him, he stood his ground when the

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Speaker 4: Trump administration let Fauci lead their response, Ron had the

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Speaker 4: courage to say not in Florida. But here's another thing

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Speaker 4: that sets Ron apart. He didn't just fight to fight.

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Speaker 4: He stood his ground because he dug into the issues.

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Speaker 4: He actually hired and listened to some of the best people.

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Speaker 4: Ron is focused, he is principled, he has results driven,

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Speaker 4: and it is why I am so proud to stand

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Speaker 4: here tonight and give him my full support and endorsement.

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Speaker 2: Clay Governor Reynolds and Iowa's pretty popular in her state.

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Speaker 2: This might come as a surprise to some of those

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Speaker 2: she's been associated with the Stantus in the past. Will

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Speaker 2: her endorsement matter, Will Iowa matter? Okay, let's start here.

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Speaker 3: This is a big deal because she is beloved in

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Speaker 3: the state of Iowa, and the numbers for Trump in

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Speaker 3: Iowa are not extraordinary, by which I mean he's under

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Speaker 3: fifty percent. He didn't win, as we've talked about in

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. I think if you ask the Trump people

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Speaker 3: you know, in terms of Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I think they probably point to Iowa.

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Speaker 3: So I think it it is a big deal that

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Speaker 3: she has come off the sidelines and endorsed, because I

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Speaker 3: think it basically guarantees DeSantis the second position. Can he

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Speaker 3: That remains to be seen. Having said that, I'm just

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Speaker 3: curious on your answer. Has any endorsement in your life

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Speaker 3: ever impacted the way that you personally voted?

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Speaker 2: No, it has never affected me. But that then again,

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Speaker 2: I'm somebody who watches commercials and generally thinks to himself,

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Speaker 2: well that's something I'm not going to buy. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: I get it, you know, So I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that there must be some in the margins

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Speaker 2: that must be effective at some level, because people fight hard.

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Speaker 2: Especially not all endorsements are the same. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: really this endorsement. You know, if you had the chief

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Speaker 2: dogcatcher for des Moines, I don't think that really matters.

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Speaker 2: But the governor of i Well might move the needle

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Yes, she's very popular.

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Speaker 3: I've never voted based on who endorsed either, and I

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Speaker 3: would imagine the vast majority of our audience makes their

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Speaker 3: own disc decisions without endorsement. So in general, what I

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Speaker 3: think it probably matters the most on is like I said,

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Speaker 3: I think it solidifies to Santis as clearly second place

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Speaker 3: her get out the vote capabilities, given the success that

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Speaker 3: she has had in Iowa, the infrastructure additions that she

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Speaker 3: can provide because so much of the Iowa caucus. Remember,

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Speaker 3: it's super complicated. It's not just a show up on

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Speaker 3: primary day and walk into a room and make your

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Speaker 3: vote cast. You have to get people to get out.

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Speaker 3: They have to show up, they have to organize. It's

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Speaker 3: very convoluted, and so turn out I would say in

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Speaker 3: Iowa matters more than almost anywhere, and that comes down

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Speaker 3: to organization. And so this I do believe is significant.

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Speaker 3: I also think it's important in the context of if

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Speaker 3: Kim Reynolds didn't think that Ron DeSantis had a chance

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't buy into the idea that if she

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Speaker 3: thought he was going to get trounced and it was

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Speaker 3: not going to be remotely competitive. I think she would

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Speaker 3: think to herself, Okay, I don't want to endorse somebody

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Speaker 2: You know. And this is not a normal This is

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Speaker 2: not a normal election in the sense that well, in

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Speaker 2: a lot of ways. But Trump is running on a

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Speaker 2: at least what a lot of supporters are saying is

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Speaker 2: kind of a vengeance tour or will be on a

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Speaker 2: vengeance tour afterwards. And being on the wrong side of

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Speaker 2: the guy who could be the Republican president of the

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Speaker 2: United States once again is not necessarily a one of well,

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Speaker 2: you know, for governors, it doesn't necessarily matter all that much,

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Speaker 2: a little different, I think if you're in the Congress.

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Speaker 2: But here we are seeing that this is the It is,

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Speaker 2: like I said, the first and last stand of trying

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Speaker 2: to defeat Donald try in this primary is going to

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Speaker 2: be Iowa. Because if it doesn't happen there, the chance

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Speaker 2: of been happening anywhere else is very slim. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: here is Dysantis, and you hadn't seen a lot of this,

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Speaker 2: This has changed a little bit recently. DeSantis knows that

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Speaker 2: he can't get at Trump on the debate stage because

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Speaker 2: Trump's not showing up on the debate stage. And here

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Speaker 2: he is. This has cut six and he's talking about

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Speaker 2: the Trump effect on other Republicans. Play it as somebody

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Speaker 5: You should want people who are delivering big victories for

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Speaker 5: their constituents standing up for conservative values, which Kim has done.

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Speaker 5: And it's almost like with Donald Trump, if you don't

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Speaker 5: kiss the ring, you could be the best governor ever

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Speaker 5: and he'll trash you. You could be a terrible corrupt politician.

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Speaker 5: But if you kiss his ring, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: he'll praise you.

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Speaker 2: So there are punches being thrown here that we weren't

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Speaker 2: really seeing in the past. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing I would factor in is, and

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Speaker 3: this is what I think everybody would say, don't pay

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Speaker 3: a lot of it attention to national polls on the

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Speaker 3: There's not advertisements going on. What's interesting to me here

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Speaker 3: is everybody believes that Iowa could and or would be

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Speaker 3: a slingshot. So I think what you're going to start

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Speaker 3: to hear from DeSantis and maybe even Nicky Haley too,

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Speaker 3: is if you're not in the top three, you should

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Speaker 3: drop out. It meaning in the top three in Iowa.

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Speaker 3: And I think DeSantis is going to argue if you're

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Speaker 3: not in the top two, you should drop out. The

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Speaker 3: Desantas strategy is predicated on Iowa. The Nicky Haley strategy

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Speaker 3: is predicated on Hey, I'm gonna be competitive in Iowa.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be competitive in New Hampshire. Then I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: win South Carolina, and it's gonna be me versus Trump

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Speaker 3: by the time you get into Super Tuesday and all

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Speaker 3: of the rest of the primaries that are out there.

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Speaker 3: So if you're Nicky Hayley, you want for there to

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Speaker 3: be a much less successful Ron DeSantis performance in Iowa.

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Speaker 3: And if you're Santis, remember they haven't spent a lot

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Speaker 3: of time in New Hampshire Comparatively, They've basically gone with

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Speaker 3: the burn the boat strategy on Iowa. So the question

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Speaker 3: would be what kind of slingshot do you get if

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Speaker 3: you're competitive and come in second. Certainly if you win,

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Speaker 3: that's a totally different story. But if you're competitive and

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Speaker 3: you come in second, what kind of slingshot do you

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Speaker 3: get into New Hampshire and into South Carolina? And also

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Speaker 3: when are some of these guys gonna drop out? But

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Speaker 3: tomorrow and we're down in Miami, there's only gonna be

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Speaker 3: five people on the stage.

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Speaker 2: To me, this is a three person race. I love

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Speaker 2: the Bike.

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Speaker 3: I think he's super talented. He seems to have peaked

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Speaker 3: around Labor Day and he has begun to decline, and

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Speaker 3: maybe he has a tremendous day tomorrow. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Tim Scott is going to be able to make a move.

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Speaker 3: I think we're basically down to it's gonna be Nicky

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Speaker 3: at some point.

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Speaker 2: I do think if I'm making a prediction for tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: and I guess I'm kind of jumping ahead because this

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Speaker 2: will be more tomorrow show, look for some fireworks with

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Speaker 2: Viveke and Nicky on that stage, because last time around,

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Speaker 2: NICKI really Nicky Haley really went after him and she

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Speaker 2: surged afterwards. I misread the public mood on that. I

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Speaker 2: thought maybe it would be people would say, oh, she

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Speaker 2: was too aggressive. No, her numbers actually moved in the

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Speaker 2: positive direction, and at Viveke's expense. I think so Viveke,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's very deft, very very talented on the

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Speaker 2: debate stage. I think he may decide that he's going

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Speaker 3: And I think Tim Scott's going to come after Nicky

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Speaker 3: Haley because we had Tim Scott on was It last week.

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Speaker 2: He was surprised that she went after him, came across.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in our number two. Appreciate all of you hanging

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Speaker 3: have pretty much made up their mind on Trump and

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Speaker 3: Biden because both of them have been president. And I

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Speaker 3: think what this election is going to come down to

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Speaker 3: is who do you trust on the economy, And if

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Speaker 3: I'm right about that, Trump's gonna win if he's the nominee.

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Speaker 3: Now I've said on this show and I'll continue to

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Speaker 3: say it, I don't just think Trump would beat Biden.

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Speaker 3: If Trump is the nominee, he's gonna win. I think,

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Speaker 3: based on where we're sitting right now, I think that

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Speaker 3: Nicky Haley would win. I think that Ron DeSantis would win.

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Speaker 3: I think that and you disagree on this one. VI

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Speaker 3: vike Ramaswami would win, which is why.

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Speaker 2: That makes it sound like I'm ac either way. I'm

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Speaker 2: just I just think you'd have a tough time.

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Speaker 3: But as you will, name recognition, you know, I I like,

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if you agree with you agree

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Speaker 3: with me that Trump, DeSantis, and Nicky Haley would all

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Speaker 3: beat Biden if they ended up being the nominee if

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Speaker 3: the election were held right now, right okay, if it

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Speaker 3: were now, I can't say in a year. The difference

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Speaker 3: on DeSantis and Nicki Haley and Vivek is they aren't

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Speaker 3: really that well known.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys, then the name recognition politics played

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Speaker 2: a lot of people who'd be like vak who still.

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Speaker 3: But everybody knows Trump and Biden. And I think this

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Speaker 3: is the problem that the Biden people are recognizing.

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Speaker 2: And this is why.

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Speaker 3: And I was driving on the slowest uber ride possible

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Speaker 3: on nine ninety five last night to get to Miami.

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Speaker 3: I was talking with my wife about this. She is

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Speaker 3: of the opinion that the big fix is in and

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Speaker 3: that at some point Biden's getting wiped out. She just

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Speaker 3: she's not a political person in the same way that

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Speaker 3: you or I would be, But she just is of

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Speaker 3: the opinion that at some point the Biden rug gets

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Speaker 3: pulled out from underneath him. And I'm she's not like

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Speaker 3: plugged in like like you and me are. I still

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Speaker 3: buck just cannot conceive of the fact that Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: is actually going to be the nominee. So as much

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Speaker 3: time as we may talk about Trump Biden and RFK

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Speaker 3: Junior and all these things, I still feel like, even

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Speaker 3: all the way up to intil Doll, they nominate Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden officially at the DNS. Now, you're gonna make me

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Speaker 3: sweat out, sweat my bet here the whole time, you

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Speaker 3: and Tucker, you guys have all the fix is in?

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Speaker 3: Now the question I asked my wife last night because

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Speaker 3: she's like, the fix is in. There's no way they're

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Speaker 3: gonna run Biden. And I said, Okay, who makes that call?

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Speaker 2: The only person who is Joe Biden. This is even

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Speaker 2: you asked, That's my argument. The only person is Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: and Joe Biden is a guy who gets up. He

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Speaker 2: lives for this. You will have to you know, he

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Speaker 2: will have to be carried out of the White House.

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Speaker 2: He is not a hard to give this up willingly.

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Speaker 3: There her argument, and I think there are other people

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Speaker 3: out there who say this is I don't know who

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Speaker 3: the shadowy cabal.

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Speaker 2: That runs the Democrat Party is. This is her argument.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you that Joe Biden, what I said

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Speaker 3: yesterday is an intervention style I could see working where

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Speaker 3: you have Gavin Newsom and Pritzker and Whitmer and they're

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Speaker 3: all like, hey, we don't want to do this, but

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Speaker 3: we are going to announce. And it's not just one

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Speaker 3: guy walking up and yanking the rugout from underneath him.

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Speaker 3: It's multiple Democrats saying we're gonna run, but we want

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Speaker 3: you to make this choice on your own. We're not

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Speaker 3: gonna go public, but in you know, two weeks, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do okay. Her argument is that somebody's gonna that's

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Speaker 3: irruption that is slowly trickling out the Democrat Party, everybody

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Speaker 3: claiming oh, there's nothing here.

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Speaker 2: That's a very dangerous game to play with a sitting president.

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Speaker 3: That's what I said. I don't know this, but I

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Speaker 3: but I'm hearing this starting to.

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Speaker 2: Get into like a Daniel de Silva novel or something,

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Speaker 2: or what I told her.

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Speaker 3: I said, you realize House of Cards is a TV show, right,

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Speaker 3: And but I think there are a lot of people

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Speaker 3: out there that do believe that the fix is going

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Speaker 3: to be called in on.

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Speaker 2: It's it's I sit here and I just keep shouting

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Speaker 2: this in the wilderness, although there are more and more

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Speaker 2: people who are now sitting next to me in the

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Speaker 2: wilderness shouting the same thing. The power of presidential in

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Speaker 2: humbancy is vast. The idea that Democrats would allow for

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Speaker 2: there to be some other last minute thrown together. There

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Speaker 2: is no infrastructure, there is no plan. Up to this point.

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Speaker 2: You have Democrats who are writing op eds who are saying,

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Speaker 2: we need Biden this stepisode, or we need if there

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Speaker 2: was a plan, they wouldn't be writing those op eds

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Speaker 2: because it would already be in motion and they would

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Speaker 2: know about it. David Axelrod would already what unless they're

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Speaker 2: like throwing a smoke screen up there no no.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, unless Obama is pulling all the strings and

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Speaker 3: at the Democratic National Convention. Suddenly Michelle Obama, no, out this.

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Speaker 2: Obama. That Tablet magazine article that we read buff it

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Speaker 2: was amazing, But that was Obama's advisors, and it was

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Speaker 2: the Obama apparatus, and it was Obama, of course, And

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Speaker 2: that's very that's very string. No one has ever stayed

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Speaker 2: in DC's post president. You can get from his house

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Speaker 2: to the White House in less than ten minutes in

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Speaker 2: a car like he's right there. So if you were

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Speaker 2: of default Democrat Party royalty, Michelle Obama, she's a big wish.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want it. I'm right.

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Speaker 3: How many people actually don't want the job when it's

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Speaker 3: offered to them. There's difference between I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: interview you. I'm not going to go out to freaking

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Speaker 3: you know, like we're gonna find her hand when.

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Speaker 2: We asked Trump if he'd make you his VP, because

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Speaker 2: I think you know, that puts a lot of things

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Speaker 2: in play. So all right, we'll get back to this.

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Speaker 2: Is Clay crazy, That's the way we'll put it. At

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Speaker 2: eight hundred two A two two A A two Question

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Speaker 2: of the day, Question of the hour? Is he crazy

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Speaker 2: on this one? Or is there going to be the

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Speaker 2: last minute so you think that you're with Bill. Bill

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Speaker 2: O'Reilly's been saying this on this show too. It's not

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Speaker 2: because because the the standard way, guys, every the clock

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Speaker 2: is ticking, I mean the ballot access to put Biden forward.

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Speaker 3: I just I think that there's got to be somebody

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Speaker 3: out there thinking about the Democratic National Convention, because then

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Bucks Setstone Voices of Sanity in an

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Speaker 3: A lot of you want to weigh in on a

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Speaker 3: variety of topics as we roll towards the Republican debate tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We just mentioned we're going to be live at Marrow

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Speaker 3: Lago for tomorrow's show. President Trump will join us, and

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Speaker 3: we are joined now by Ron McDaniel, who is putting

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Speaker 3: on this debate for the Republican National Committee tomorrow here

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Speaker 3: in Miami. It is the third different event of the

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Speaker 3: primary calendar debate season. I believe there is a fourth

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Speaker 3: coming up soon. My understanding is five candidates have made

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Speaker 3: the stage for tomorrow night's debate. What can you tell

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Speaker 3: us about tomorrow's event and what should we expect to see?

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Speaker 2: Correct?

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Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. We have five that have

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Speaker 6: made it, Ron DeSantis, the Viak Ramaswani, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott,

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Speaker 6: and Chris Christy. I just almost blanked the last one,

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Speaker 6: so they've all made it. I do think that you're

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Speaker 6: going to have a different format than the past two

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Speaker 6: where they'll be time for opening statements and closing statements,

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Speaker 6: a longer answer period of a minute and a half

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Speaker 6: for each question, And I do expect this will be

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Speaker 6: a more policy driven debate. A lot has changed in

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Speaker 6: the world since October seventh, and I think you're going

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Speaker 6: to hear a lot of national security issues on that

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Speaker 6: debate stage.

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Speaker 2: So on the national security side of things, obviously big

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Speaker 2: focus because of what's going on with Israel and Hamas

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Speaker 2: right now, obviously much more Republican than Democrat unity on

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Speaker 2: this issue. What do you think, I mean, what are

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Speaker 2: your expectations as these candidates are going to be discussing

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Speaker 2: their foreign policies. Do you think that there is are

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Speaker 2: are there rather heavy distinctions and how they approach things

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Speaker 2: like Ukraine and Israel that are on the forefront of

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Speaker 2: people's minds, or is the GOP largely on the same page.

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Speaker 6: Well, I certainly think with Ukraine you've seen differences within

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Speaker 6: our party, and I think the bag Ramaswani and Ramaswami

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Speaker 6: and Governor DeSantis have taken in some different positions than

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Speaker 6: say in Nikki Haley and Attim Scott. I think with Israel,

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Speaker 6: we're all speaking from one voice as a party, as

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Speaker 6: opposed to the Democrats. We very clearly understand that it

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Speaker 6: was a terror attack by Hamas. I think the calls

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Speaker 6: for ceasefire or humanitarian pause are ridiculous when we have

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Speaker 6: two hundred hostages still being held. I think these candidates

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Speaker 6: showing strength and moral clarity in a time of uncertainty

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Speaker 6: in our world will be very clear and a great

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Speaker 6: contrast between what we've seen with the Democrat Party as

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Speaker 6: they've allowed very very anti Israel, anti Semitic voices to

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Speaker 6: wage within their party. And I'm thinking of somebody like

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Speaker 6: Rashida to leave from my home state of Michigan, Rona.

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Speaker 3: When you look at five on the stage tomorrow, in

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Speaker 3: your opinion, if you aren't making it on the stage

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Speaker 3: for the debates, is it time for you to drop

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Speaker 3: out of the race.

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Speaker 6: Well, they'll make that decision for themselves. I think it's

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Speaker 6: harder to get traction if you're not on a debate stage.

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Speaker 6: And I think our criteria has been very fair. But

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Speaker 6: I'll just say this, in the past cycles, in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 6: we still had two debate stages. We still had fourteen

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Speaker 6: people who went into Iowa. We're down to five. And

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Speaker 6: what is the criteria for this debate? Four percent in

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Speaker 6: the national poll and the ability to get seventy thousand

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Speaker 6: small dollar online donations. I don't think that that is

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Speaker 6: a huge hurdle if you're running for a president. I

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Speaker 6: liken it to the Olympics. You don't get to go

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Speaker 6: to the Olympics unless you're able to pass certain criteria.

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Speaker 6: And I really felt strongly, and so did the debate Committee,

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Speaker 6: that we did not want this debate stage to be

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Speaker 6: used to propel people to book deals or media contracts

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Speaker 6: or cabinet positions. The voters and our party deserve to

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Speaker 6: see substitive discussions by candidates who potentially can receive that nomination.

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Speaker 2: It's being Ron McDaniel, head of the R and c

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Speaker 2: RONA you know, I know, I'll want to look ahead

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Speaker 2: a little bit because we have a lot of folks

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Speaker 2: who listen and they understand the stakes for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: They understand how important it is that we take this

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Speaker 2: country and put it back on the right track and

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Speaker 2: start moving the right direction with a Republican president and

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Speaker 2: hopefully Republican House and Senate. But they say, what's the

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Speaker 2: point if we haven't fixed election issues, How do we

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Speaker 2: know that election integrity? Election integrity is going to be

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Speaker 2: as strong as we need it to be this time around.

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Speaker 2: What do you say to that? What can you tell

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Speaker 2: people to help them? You know, allay those fears a

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Speaker 2: little bit, that they'll be Shenanigan's and that therefore it's

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Speaker 2: not really going to be the election that we deserve.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, here's what I would say. First of all, Republicans,

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Speaker 6: we are shiny object voters. We like to wait till

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Speaker 6: we get a candidate, and we have to learn to

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Speaker 6: invest in the infrastructure. The RNC is in sixty five

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Speaker 6: different lawsuits right now. Democrats just went into Montana, for example,

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Speaker 6: to try and strip away a lot that doesn't allow

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Speaker 6: people to vote, register twice to vote. The RNC just

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Speaker 6: intervened in that case. We just want a big case

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Speaker 6: on voter ID in New Hampshire. All of this is

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Speaker 6: being played out right now, and everybody likes to wait

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Speaker 6: until election year. There's no more election year, just like

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Speaker 6: there's no more election day. Elections are all always ongoing

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Speaker 6: in the courts. The other thing is we have to

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Speaker 6: educate our voters to bank your vote early. We have

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Speaker 6: to vote by mail, we have to vote by absentee

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Speaker 6: if that's the law in the books. We're going to

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Speaker 6: ballot harvest. The rnc's launched the Bank your Vote website,

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Speaker 6: were launching at state by state. We have to start

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Speaker 6: in engaging our voters. You can't win a football game

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Speaker 6: if you're scoring just in the fourth quarter. We have

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Speaker 6: to be using all four quarters of the game to win.

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Speaker 6: And part of our ability to give voters confidence is

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Speaker 6: that it is not only the sixty five lawsuits we're in,

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Speaker 6: but the robust poll watching program we're developing, recruiting poll

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Speaker 6: workers to be involved, putting councils into the states. It

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Speaker 6: takes everybody engaging. Go to gop dot com, be avolunteer.

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Speaker 6: We need people engaged in the process. It's so easy

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Speaker 6: to be on the outside saying, what are you going

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Speaker 6: to do to fix it? We can't fix it without help.

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Speaker 6: It's resources and volunteers.

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Speaker 2: Rona I believe there are reports.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you officially announced it, that there

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Speaker 3: will be a fourth Republican debate in Tuscaloose, Alabama in December.

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Speaker 3: How many more debates do you anticipate as we move

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Speaker 3: through the primary season. What does the calendar look like? Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the caucus is on January. Early in January, I think

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Speaker 3: January fifteenth, if I've got the date right, and then

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Speaker 3: you move on to New Hampshire.

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Speaker 2: What does the rest of the debate calendar look like?

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Speaker 6: So we haven't set all of the debates. I anticipate

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Speaker 6: they'll be one in Iowa and New Hampshire and then

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Speaker 6: we'll take it from there. It's tough, you know, because

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Speaker 6: President Trump hasn't been on the debate stage. We obviously

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Speaker 6: would love to have all the candidates on the debate stage,

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Speaker 6: and there's been calls don't have debates. I feel very

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Speaker 6: strongly that if we stop debates, they wouldn't go away.

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Speaker 6: Candidates would negotiate directly with tvsations. But at the same time,

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Speaker 6: those candidates and our party deserve their opportunity to speak

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Speaker 6: to the American people. And then when the votes come in,

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Speaker 6: we all need to rally around whoever that nominee is.

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Speaker 6: But the process needs to play out so that every

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Speaker 6: voter who's supporting any candidate feels like their candidate was

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Speaker 6: given that opportunity to make their pity.

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Speaker 3: A lot of our audience has been upset that NBC

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Speaker 3: got this debate because certainly they have had not necessarily

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Speaker 3: fair cover.

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Speaker 2: Like the Clay and Buck Show didn't get this debate.

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Speaker 2: I'm just throwing that out there.

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Speaker 6: You guys didn have been on the debate. You guys

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Speaker 6: got me asked, well, what do we.

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Speaker 2: Have to do to bid? Is it complicated process?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, here's the thing. It's hard the debate stuff.

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Speaker 6: We did Fox twice. The R and C doesn't pay

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Speaker 6: for the debates. News flash, everybody in America. We don't

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Speaker 6: pay for it. The network's due. And so when the

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Speaker 6: networks paid for the debate, tell me another conservative network.

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Speaker 6: We have gone to some conservative networks who said, no,

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to name them on your show. So

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Speaker 6: we did try, but they couldn't afford it, and they

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Speaker 6: couldn't do it. It's about four million.

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Speaker 2: And then that's why we did. By the way, get it.

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Speaker 6: We do have Salem Radio as a partner, right and

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Speaker 6: they have allowed Hugh Hewett, who I think we all

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Speaker 6: agree is a conservative voice in the editorial decision making

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Speaker 6: of this debate. This is the first time this has

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Speaker 6: ever happened, So we're hearing it, we understand it, we

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Speaker 6: know there's frustration. But I also will add this, we

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Speaker 6: can't just sit in a conservative echo chamber and think

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Speaker 6: we're going to win. Forty two percent of this country

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Speaker 6: are independent. We've got to go outside. There are a

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Speaker 6: lot of passive news watchers who watch the Today Show

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Speaker 6: but don't tune in to Fox or CNN, and we

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Speaker 6: need to be able to reach those voters because I

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Speaker 6: have confidence in our message and what we stand for.

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Speaker 6: And if you get a bad moderator, you just respond

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Speaker 6: to them the way you want. And I'm not scared

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Speaker 6: of any moderator when we're going against them with what

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Speaker 6: we stand for, with fixing the border, taking down sentinel,

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Speaker 6: a fixing crime in this country, restoring our education for

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Speaker 6: our kids, and getting our national security on track, and

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Speaker 6: our energy independence and tackling inflation. We've got the right message,

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Speaker 6: So I'm not really afraid of that. I understand people

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Speaker 6: say that, but it's a much harder process and more

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Speaker 6: complex than people understand RNA.

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Speaker 2: What is your confidence level? You know, you're seeing this

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Speaker 2: from a very specific vantage point and are hearing what

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Speaker 2: people are saying in DC and in the corridors of power.

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Speaker 2: What is your confidence level that the eventual Republican nominee

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Speaker 2: is going to be squaring off against Joe Biden next year?

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be Joe Biden. You know,

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Speaker 6: you are seeing this huge movement in the Democrat Party

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Speaker 6: to remove him, right, David Axelrod. We saw the New

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Speaker 6: York Times polls, which, by the way, I don't believe

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Speaker 6: anybody's up eleven points in Nevada.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I think these polls are being pushed pushed out to

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Speaker 6: try and get Biden out of the race. And he's

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Speaker 6: not budging.

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Speaker 4: Why.

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Speaker 6: He knows there's more legal jeopardy coming his way. He

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Speaker 6: knows what's out there that James Comber's going to find

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Speaker 6: out that Oversight Committee. He loves being president, So despite

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Speaker 6: his party trying to push him out, he's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 6: And ballid access is an issue. They've already passed the

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Speaker 6: deadline for three major states to get on the ballot,

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Speaker 6: So if he doesn't get out now. The only real

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Speaker 6: window would be at the convention. I know Ted Cruz

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Speaker 6: thinks it's going to be Michelle Obama. I think it's

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Speaker 6: going to be Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: And you are on team buck with this one, Rona,

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Speaker 2: and that's a smart place to be because the Buckster usually.

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Speaker 3: Gets I just I can't imagine that they're possibly going

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Speaker 3: to be reckless enough to run him.

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Speaker 2: I just like they're going to find a way not

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Speaker 2: to do it random first time, Rona, just thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for being with us. Ron McDaniel of the r

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Speaker 2: Chairwowoman of the RNC geop dot what was the website again, goop.

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Speaker 6: Dot com or bank your vote dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, thanks so much for being here. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate you. See Clay ballid access, my friend. There are hurdles,

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Speaker 2: there are two.

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Speaker 3: I think at this point it's now going to be

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Speaker 3: an RNC fix.

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Speaker 2: He he you know, Clay, he just he put out

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Speaker 2: the call and now we got all these Michelle Obama

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Speaker 2: is going to be the Democrat nominee. People calling in,

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Speaker 2: seven and subscribe today. Third hour of Clay and Buck

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now. We're gonna talk to you a

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Speaker 2: little bit now about the situation in in Israel, It's

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Speaker 2: war against Tamas, and also the surge in anti Semitism

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Speaker 2: here at home. All of this tied in together. First off,

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Speaker 2: over over there, what's going on in the conflict zone,

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Speaker 2: more air strikes, more Israeli forces moving into Gaza, and

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Benjamin N. Yaho has indicate that Israel is

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Speaker 2: going to be playing an indefinite role in securing Gaza

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Speaker 2: to prevent future attacks like this. So I could foresee

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Speaker 2: in my mind, and I think I said this on

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Speaker 2: the show a few weeks ago, something like a demilitarized

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Speaker 2: zone or an area of broader separation between Gaza and

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Speaker 2: Israel that would be policed and effectively an expansion, a

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Speaker 2: pretty dramatic expansion of the security barrier that already exists

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Speaker 2: with probably some Israeli forward operating bases to monitor the

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Speaker 2: that's my sense of it. And they're going to try

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Speaker 2: to broker some sort of agreement down the line for

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Speaker 2: what the governance of Gaza will be. No one really

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Speaker 2: seems to have a clear sense of that quite yet.

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Speaker 2: The conflict is still ongoing. And then bringing it home

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Speaker 2: here for a moment, a elderly Jewish man in California

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Speaker 2: has died after he was hit on the head during

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Speaker 2: a by a pro Palestinian protester during an altercation out

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. This is in one thousand Oaks in

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Speaker 2: LA and the Los Angeles area. And you know, this

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Speaker 2: is a moment where a lot of people I think

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Speaker 2: are first of all, I mean, you know, it's tragedy, senseless, awful,

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Speaker 2: you know, to strike somebody at a protest like this,

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Speaker 2: an elderly man, elder abuse. This man has now died.

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Speaker 2: You know, this guy is going to be facing a

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Speaker 2: lengthy prison sentence for this. And what you've seen, Clay

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Speaker 2: is the Jewish people, you know, Israel and the Jewish

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Speaker 2: people both there and around the world, have been the

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Speaker 2: they were the victims of a mass casualty terror attack,

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Speaker 2: and this has cohen sided or rather in the aftermath

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Speaker 2: of this, there's been this dramatic expansion of anger, hatred,

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Speaker 2: and anti Semitism that has broken out. And you have

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Speaker 2: all of these individuals who are not only taking a

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Speaker 2: At this point in time, it is so shocking to

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Speaker 2: on the left are beginning to call this out and

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Speaker 2: speak honestly and truthfully about Israel. This was Bill Maher

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Speaker 2: on his show on Friday speaking some truth about Israel

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Speaker 2: and this whole situation.

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Speaker 7: Play a team for all the progressives and academics who

868
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Speaker 7: refer to Israel as an outpost of Western civilization like

869
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Speaker 7: it's a bad thing. Please note Western civilization is what

870
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Speaker 7: gave the world pretty much every damn liberal precept that

871
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Speaker 7: liberals are supposed to endure individual liberty, scientific inquiry, rule

872
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Speaker 7: of law, religious freedom, women's rights, human rights, democracy, trial

873
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Speaker 7: by jury, freedom of speech. And since one can find

874
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Speaker 7: all these concepts in today's Israel and virtually nowhere else

875
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Speaker 7: in the Middle East, if anything, the world would be

876
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 7: better placed if it had more Israel's. Of course, this

877
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 7: message falls on deaf ears to the current crop, who

878
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 7: reduce everything to being only victims or victimizers. So Israel

879
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 7: is lumped in as the toxic fruit of the victimizing West,

880
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 7: the irony being that all marginalized people live better today

881
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 7: because of Western ideals.

882
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Not in spite of them. And yet we have so

883
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Speaker 2: many in this country clay on the left pretending that

884
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Speaker 2: Israel is the regressive and bad place and somehow Gaza

885
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 2: run by a terrorist organization that I'm pretty sure isn't

886
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: good on trans rights. I'll just put that out there.

887
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Speaker 2: No criticism for them whatsoever.

888
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Speaker 3: I give credit to Bill Maher here because we do

889
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Speaker 3: need to robust defense of Western civilization and the incredible

890
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: irony of people in countries made possible because of Western civilization,

891
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Speaker 3: using all of the successes of Western civilization free speech

892
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Speaker 3: paramount among them to advocate for regressive regimes that would

893
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Speaker 3: not allow them to live the way that they live

894
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: here is so manifestly difficult, I think for people to

895
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Speaker 3: understand that it has forced many people out there, not

896
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Speaker 3: just Jewish people, but many people who vote on the left.

897
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Speaker 2: I think to have a red pill moment. And let

898
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Speaker 2: me just mention this to Buck.

899
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Speaker 3: The power in the media is what they cover and

900
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Speaker 3: what stories they allow to become prominent narrative devices. The

901
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Speaker 3: Nashville Manifesto. We talked about this yesterday, not covered essentially

902
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 3: by The New York Times, by the Washington Post, by

903
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Speaker 3: CNN or MSNBC. The murder of that Jewish protester that

904
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Speaker 3: you started off this hour talking about, by and large,

905
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: has not been talked about or touched on as a

906
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Speaker 3: severe issue. Think about and compare the way the murder

907
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Speaker 3: of that one woman in Charlottesville was covered as a

908
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Speaker 3: symptom of the danger of far right MAGA extremism in

909
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: this country and of the rabid anti Semitism that supposedly

910
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: undergirded much of the Donald Trump support tree. We'll talk

911
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 3: about this to Reeven Force. We're gonna be with Donald

912
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: Trump tomorrow. Donald Trump has a lot of Jewish grandsons

913
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Speaker 3: and granddaughters.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, he's got a daughter who's Jewish, law who's Jewish,

915
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Speaker 2: and grandchildren who are Jewish.

916
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Speaker 3: So I would imagine, and we'll ask this of Trump himself,

917
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 3: I would imagine, if you're a grandfather and you see

918
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Speaker 3: people all over Israel being murdered because they're Jewish, and

919
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: you have Jewish grandchildren. That's a jarring moment for you,

920
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: because all of you out there that have grandchildren too,

921
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Speaker 3: and certainly all of you who are parents, know that

922
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Speaker 3: your love for your kids and grandkids is to many,

923
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: to a large degree, what defined you as an individual.

924
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 3: Think about how that Charlottesville incident was covered and a

925
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: direct murder of a Jewish protester based on what I

926
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Speaker 3: saw was that they have already done an autopsy and

927
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Speaker 3: determined that he died based on that attack, and that

928
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Speaker 3: there will be charges. It's a homicide. It's a homicide

929
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Speaker 3: of some sort. Will it be manslaughter, will it be

930
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: second degree murder? Who knows exactly what the charges will be.

931
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Speaker 3: But you combine that with the release yesterday of the

932
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Speaker 3: Nashville Manifesto, neither of those stories. If you don't and

933
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Speaker 3: this is what we were just talking about, Ron McDaniel,

934
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Speaker 3: and I don't know that I agree with giving NBC

935
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Speaker 3: the debate, but I do know that there are a

936
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Speaker 3: lot of people out there, reasonable decent people who rely

937
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: on the meeting to bring them the news that don't

938
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Speaker 3: know anything about the murder of that Jewish person that

939
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: don't know anything about the Nashville Manifesto because the media

940
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Speaker 3: that they consume doesn't tell them that story.

941
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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, and this is a huge advantage that

942
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: democrats have in whether it's just broad messaging on issues

943
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 2: or even going into elections, which is the fire hose

944
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: of not just falsehood, but the ability which is a

945
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: part of it the propaganda. But as we've often discussed,

946
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 2: the decision to what to cover and what not to

947
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: covers in many ways the most potent and powerful editorial

948
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: decision that any news organization makes. Right if you don't

949
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Speaker 2: spend any time on something that says a lot, especially

950
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: if it's something that is clearly newsworthy. You probably saw

951
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: this to clay a lot of passive voice after this

952
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: elderly Jewish man died after being attacked, a lot of

953
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Speaker 2: you know, confrontation with protesters leads to a man losing

954
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Speaker 2: his Life's like, no, some pro hamas maniac hid an

955
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 2: elderly man who was waving a Jewish flag over the

956
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: head and killed him. Yes, that is actually those are

957
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: the facts of the story as we know them right now.

958
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: That is what is it. But That's not the way

959
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: that they were presenting it. I would say, you know,

960
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: even you know some the Bide administration knows they've got

961
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: a problem here. National Security Council spokesman John Kirby was

962
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: willing to say that it was irresponsible for Rashida to leave,

963
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: to say that the Biden administration, not just Israel, the

964
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Speaker 2: Biden administration is supporting this is cut twenty supporting genocide.

965
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 5: Play it she said, was that the administration was supporting genocide.

966
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: Well, of course we're not doing that.

967
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Speaker 8: And and and what is happening in Gaza. Again, as

968
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Speaker 8: terrible as all these civilian casualties are, and we know

969
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 8: there's many, many thousands of them, we don't want there

970
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 8: to be any I don't wanted to minimize that at all.

971
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Speaker 8: But you can't look at what is happening in Gaza

972
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 8: and say that it fits the definition of genocide. And

973
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 8: clearly we don't agree with that, with that description. We

974
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 8: think that is an irresponsible way of describing this. We

975
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 8: don't associate ourselves.

976
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: With that, and that is not an our view. That

977
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 2: is not what is happening here. I mean, first of all,

978
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: it is not what I don't think I say in

979
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: our view, it is not what is happening. But Clay,

980
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: there's also something particularly morally repugnant about the let's be honest,

981
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: the enemies of the State of Israel and the enemies

982
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: of a Jewish homeland. Referring to Israeli genocide in Gaza.

983
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean genocide is what the Jewish people suffered at

984
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: the hands of the Nazi regime in World War Two

985
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: at Auschwitz and Buchenwalden, Dachau and the death camps. That's

986
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: a genocide. Taking your military and having airstrikes on a

987
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: terrorist entity that has just killed fourteen hundred of your

988
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: people after many, many years of peace negotiations and offers

989
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: and everything else, and using your military in defense of

990
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: yourself and your people, that is not a genocide. It

991
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: is a just war. It is on the far extreme

992
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: other side of forces. Genocide would be the most abhorrent

993
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: and morally repugnant use of force imaginable. Israel is fighting

994
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: a just war in Gaza, but this administration won't really

995
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: say that. They have to leave open as well. We

996
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: don't want them to be too rough, you know, Geneva conventions.

997
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: That's why they're trying to triangulate it because this is

998
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: politically unstable because it blows up the Democrat parties left

999
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 3: wing agenda. And I don't know what Neil Cavudo on

1000
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: Fox News followed up with John Kirby about, but the

1001
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: question that I think has to be asked is do

1002
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 3: you think Rashida's lieb should still be representing her district

1003
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 3: because there are gonna be a lot of primary challenges now,

1004
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 3: and I'm curious whether Joe Biden is going to be

1005
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: forced to weigh in on that because a couple of things. One,

1006
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: Fox News viewership is skyrocketing among jew Jewish Americans. There's

1007
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: actually an article in it about the New York Times

1008
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 3: about the number of people that are turning it on.

1009
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of those Jewish otherwise Democrat

1010
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: voters are watching five News and they're going to say,

1011
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: you know what, all of the caricatures that are out

1012
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 3: there about Fox News, My goodness, they're doing the best

1013
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: job of covering anything coming out of Israel right now.

1014
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: Second part of this, again, they're trying to triangulate it.

1015
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: They're calling for a pause now in the Biden administration

1016
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: because it's a midway point between a ceasefire, which is

1017
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 3: what left wing pro Palestinian advocates are demanding, and it's

1018
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: not the full throated defense that Israeli advocates are defending.

1019
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: So they're trying to say that they want to pause,

1020
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: which is, you know, a resumption and theory of activities

1021
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: could occur, but it's somewhere between both. Here's the problem.

1022
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 3: You can't third weigh yourself in this situation. And I

1023
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: think the strident moral authority here that has played very

1024
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 3: much in the Republican camp is Israel is not the aggressor.

1025
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: They were attacked. To your position, this is far from genocide.

1026
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: They're innocent victims, and they're now trying to ensure that

1027
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: they will never have this happen to them again by

1028
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: eradicating the power.

1029
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: Of Hamas to ever do this again.

1030
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Speaker 3: And so I don't see any way that you can

1031
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: middle ground this if you're Joe Biden, and I think

1032
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: increasingly he's recognizing it now. The challenge of the identity

1033
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 3: politics of the Democrat Party is if you can't third

1034
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: away it, you probably can't win the election.

1035
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I was gonna say. Is following

1036
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: on that notice, how and certainly Jewish Americans have noticed this,

1037
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: I think in large numbers on the right, there's no

1038
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: room for Hamas love correct, this doesn't this isn't a thing.

1039
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: Who's the Republican member of Congress right now who's saying,

1040
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: you know, Hamas legitimate resistance organization. Hamas, you know, really

1041
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: isn't as bad as it's being portrayed to beer. It

1042
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: doesn't exist, correct, doesn't exist. You know, find me a

1043
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: Republican government, Republican Member of Congress REPO who is taking

1044
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: these positions because there is no home for soft pedaling

1045
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: or in any way trying to mitigate the horrificness of

1046
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: what Hamas just did on the right. On the left,

1047
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: there's a lot of it. Yes, it's commonplace, and this

1048
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: distinction is playing out in a way. I mean, I

1049
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: think Bill Maher, who's an absolutely a Democrat, even though

1050
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: he says some things sometimes that are sensible, even on

1051
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: the right, I think he recognizes this is the problem

1052
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: for his party. This is a problem going into an

1053
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Speaker 2: election year or on election day now, but much bigger

1054
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Speaker 2: election next year. So we'll continue to follow this one. Look,

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