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Speaker 1: We are back with Fish Unfiltered. It is Wednesday, April sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: The Marlins currently sit at five hundred as we are

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Speaker 1: recording this. We are joined by special guest Kevin brawl

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Speaker 1: And as well as outfielder Kyle Starwars.

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Speaker 2: Kyle, thank you so much for taking the time.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having you guys. Yeah, it's going well.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it well.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into you know, you're reacting to the

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Speaker 1: trade and just how this season has gone for you personally,

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Speaker 1: tell us how it feels for this team to be

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Speaker 1: where it's at.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure you read all the reports, all

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Speaker 2: the projections.

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Speaker 1: Team was not expected to do this well, and here

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Speaker 1: you guys are sitting at eight and eight against a

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Speaker 1: pretty damn good competition.

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Speaker 2: Just how are you guys doing it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's obviously early, and I think you know,

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Speaker 3: for us, it was all about canceling the outside noise,

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Speaker 3: you know, And I know you hear a lot of

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Speaker 3: clubhouses say that, but it is true. You know, you're

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Speaker 3: you're kind of trying to go into the season and

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Speaker 3: my opinion with no expectations is good, right and and

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Speaker 3: and that way we just have the room to play hard,

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Speaker 3: to compete, play for each other. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: what we're doing really well as a team. You have

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Speaker 3: a bunch of guys I've said this before to you,

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Speaker 3: guys that you know, they haven't they're trying to, you know,

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Speaker 3: make a name for themselves in this game. And but

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Speaker 3: we're pushing together, you know. And I think that's what's

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Speaker 3: really cool is is it's not in a selfish way.

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Speaker 3: You know, guys are are are pushing each other, and

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Speaker 3: we're rallying behind each other. And and I think you know,

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Speaker 3: you kind of could feel it, you know how how

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Speaker 3: close the clubhouse was in spring. So to me, it's

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Speaker 3: it's no surprise, you know that we've had a solid

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Speaker 3: start and now it's just about keeping it going.

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Speaker 1: It's about nine months since the trade, since you and

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Speaker 1: Connor were traded to Miami. Just if you can sort

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Speaker 1: of recall how you reacted to the news and just

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Speaker 1: how that whole that whole day.

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Speaker 2: Went for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it was. It's a wild story. I

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Speaker 3: think you know, you know, you you know that being

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Speaker 3: traded mid season is a whirlwind before even going through it,

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Speaker 3: but going through it is is wild you know, I,

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Speaker 3: for me, kind of had an idea that there was

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Speaker 3: a possibility of me being traded. I'd played a really

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Speaker 3: good stretch of baseball in Baltimore and UH in uh

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Speaker 3: May and June and and so, but I was still

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Speaker 3: only playing, you know, every third or fourth day, and

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Speaker 3: and then I ended up getting a option you know,

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Speaker 3: with some really good numbers, and you know, there's so

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Speaker 3: many good players there obviously, but that kind of was

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Speaker 3: a sign to me that like, you know, hey, like

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Speaker 3: even when I'm performing well, like I still wasn't you know,

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Speaker 3: getting a ton of opportunity. And so that kind of

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Speaker 3: is when I really thought that, you know, a trade

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Speaker 3: could be possible for me. And so fast forward to

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Speaker 3: a week before the trade deadline. We had a thirty

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Speaker 3: day lease when I got option that had ended a

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Speaker 3: week before the trade deadline. So that week before we

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Speaker 3: stayed in a hotel. We we just booked a hotel

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Speaker 3: before that shipped all pretty much all of our things,

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Speaker 3: were going to be during the trade deadline. And I

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Speaker 3: was in the tub in Charlotte, UH and I had

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Speaker 3: just gotten out, and Kobe Mayo came up to me

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Speaker 3: and he said, Norby just got traded to the Marlins

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Speaker 3: with one other player. And I hadn't checked my phone

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Speaker 3: Peter is just like, hey, you know, just wanted to

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Speaker 3: right after that, I saw the team was going to Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: so I said, okay, like, well, there's no shot that

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Speaker 3: And and I was, I was, I was good with

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Speaker 3: I was just so happy to get the opportunity. I

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Speaker 3: hour shaking hands, uh, doing media and UH. And then

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Speaker 3: to play. So it was a it was a wild experience.

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Speaker 3: Was just super happy for the opportunity. You know, obviously,

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Speaker 3: you know when you get traded to a team. You know,

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Speaker 3: the way I look at it is there's a team

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you talk about the transition, I think like, do

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Speaker 4: you come to Miami and you're playing fifty games probably

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Speaker 4: the most, I guess consistently you've been up the you know,

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Speaker 4: from that? How much do you think you needed that

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Speaker 4: this bite, you know, struggling a little bit, especially early

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Speaker 4: on and then towards the final couple weeks truly getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think I think with the big leagues,

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Speaker 3: what's interesting about it is obviously the game's the same

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Speaker 3: on the field, right, but everything around it is so different,

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Speaker 3: I thought, you know, how to handle you know, being

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what the experience I gained from last

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I've known how to play every day

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Speaker 3: although it wasn't my best touch of baseball, you know,

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Speaker 3: I give myself a lot of grace, you know, because

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Speaker 3: of the whirlwind of the trade and getting comfortable in

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Speaker 3: super nice this spring to kind of kind of have

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Speaker 3: obviously the new staff and then and then to further

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Speaker 2: You mentioned this spring.

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Speaker 1: I got a it was a very interesting spring for

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Speaker 1: you because obviously, you know, the numbers weren't there average

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Speaker 1: walked what was it twelve times in sixteen games? Like

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Speaker 1: how would you evaluate your spring training? Was it how

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Speaker 1: you wanted it to go? Did that come?

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Speaker 2: Like? Was that exactly how you wanted it?

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Speaker 3: I think yeah, yes, and no, like there's parts of

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Speaker 1: Right, were there any doubt that you were going to

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Speaker 3: there's always those intrusive thoughts, right, you know, like you

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Speaker 1: It's cool to see that, you you know, pay attention

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the perfect way to end it. Man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time. I know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Thank you guys. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day you too, all right for Kyle,

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Speaker 2: As always, go fish the most, us the best. P.