1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you should Know from house Stuff 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, Jerry's over there. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: This is stuff you should know. So huge thanks right 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: off the bat to everyone who came out for our 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Northeast plus one summer tour. Yes it was a pretty 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: big success. Yeah, big thanks Boston and New York in 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Durham in Washington, d c uh and look 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: for us this fall, like early October in the Midwest, 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: the Upper Midwest. Don't get excited yet. St. Louis not yet. 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: But hopefully we're targeting Detroit, because boy, we're long overdue 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: for Detroit. Yeah. I don't know how we're going to 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: be received in Detroit. You're gonna love us, I hope. 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: So I think we're looking at your cargo Detroit, maybe Cleveland, Minneapolisoliswaukee, 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee or Madison, We're not quite sure yet, so 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: um maybe some advice wisconsinites. Yeah, and then everyone in 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: each city will just say come here because I don't 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: feel like driving a few hours. Uh So yeah, thanks 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: for the support and look for us this fall. And 20 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: did you thank squarespace. Yeah, did you think how stuff works? Yeah? 21 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Did you thank Jerry for the moral support? Sure? I 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: think Jerry every day. It's part of my wake up routine. Yeah, 23 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to going back on tour. It's fun. 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: It is Okay, you read for this, I'm ready. We're 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: gonna channel our stuff you missed in history class. Yeah. 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they've done this or not. Have 27 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: you are you? I don't know? So, um, Chuck, I 28 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you know this one because it didn't 29 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: come up in this article. But back in World War Two, 30 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: did you know that the Japanese actually carried out main campaigns, 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: two of them in Oregon? I didn't know that, Oh 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: you did. I'm a bit of a buff and then insane. Yeah. 33 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of forgotten history or little 34 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: known history that you read it in. Uh. Thank god 35 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: for like the Internet, because someone will post an article 36 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: and say, I bet you never knew this, and then 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: you're like what, Yeah, that's pretty much the function of 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: the internet that what you just describe, you know, So 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: this one, I think I've learned about this from unsurprisingly 40 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Uncle John's bathroom reader years and years and years ago. 41 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: But definitely not in this kind of detail. It turns out. 42 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: Then in World War Two, in I believe in Armagansett, 43 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: New York, which is on Long Island, and ponte Vedra Beach, Florida, 44 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: which is just south of Jacksonville. UM, Nazi saboteurs landed. 45 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: They invaded America. Pretty remarkable, it really is. What's even 46 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: remarkable is how badly their operations went. Yeah, what's remarkable 47 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: is well, not remarkable, what's uh. Thankfully they chose a 48 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: bunch of dopes, um, half hearted dope, half hearted dopes 49 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: who I don't know if they didn't do their research. 50 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: We'll get into how they picked these these shmos. But 51 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: it didn't go so well. But if they had to 52 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: pick them like the right guys, it might have been 53 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: a whole different story. Oh yeah, totally in this war 54 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: and and the FBI, especially Jager Hoover, really lucked out 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: that these guys were half hearted dope. Well not if 56 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: you ask him. No, it was just you might as 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: well have worn a cape around the office, you know, 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: well he may have. And little else. So um, back 59 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: in World War two, even before World War tour, before 60 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the US centered the Second World War Hitler had this 61 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: great fantasy of sending New York City up in flames, 62 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Like he really wanted to just destroy New York and 63 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Verna von Broun, the guy who helped get America to 64 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: the Moon, was working on a rocket program that could 65 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: strike uh, the United States from Europe. That was one 66 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: thing never fully realized, um, because the war came to 67 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: an end before they could develop the right kind of missile. 68 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: But they were working on it, and they were also 69 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: working on long range bombers. They could fly out of 70 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: Europe all the way to america'ss coast and bomb. Apparently 71 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: hit they used to literally sit around and watch like 72 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: film footage of cities burning and like fantasizes about New 73 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: York City. Crazy. Yeah, well he was pretty crazy, um. 74 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: But he finally realized that, like, if he was going 75 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: to get New York, the best, most efficient, most at 76 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: hand way to do that was to send saboteurs into 77 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: the United States to infiltrate and do New York themselves. 78 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: That's right, you know, terrorists essentially. Well, yeah, the only 79 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: thing that kept him from being considered full fledged just 80 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: straight up terrorists is because we were formally at war 81 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: with this country. So they were they were considered officially 82 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: spies and unofficially saboteurs. Yes, Uh should we shout out 83 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the articles here? Yes, let's right off the bat. I read, well, 84 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: I read a few. I read one on uh damned interesting, 85 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: which was good. Uh. There was one you sent called 86 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: world War two German saboteurs invade America in nineteen two. Yeah, 87 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: that was on history Net. History Net, and I feel 88 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: like there was one more. There was a Spiegel article. 89 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's one o UM called Operation past Storious 90 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: Hitler's unfulfilled dream of the New York in flames poor. 91 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: I know his dreams failed. So, uh, World War two 92 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: hadn't been raging for long for the U S when 93 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: this happened. It was right after uh Paul Harbor was bombed, 94 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: and Hitler said, you know what, they think they're over there, 95 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: They're a long way from us, so they probably feel 96 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: pretty pretty safe. So let me undermine that and let 97 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: me devise this plan um. And it was originally going 98 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: to be a wave of saboteurs like every you know, 99 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: four to six weeks. They were going to be sending 100 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: in small teams of of terrorist slash spies to wreak 101 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: havoc on the US, and uh, thankfully it didn't work 102 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: out that way, so it was kind of scrapped. Yeah, 103 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: the the obver I think that's how you pronounce that 104 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: you're the one who knows German, Is that right? Yeah? 105 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: So that was the the basically the sabotage unit of 106 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: the German Military Intelligence Corps. And these guys had kind 107 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: of perfected their craft with explosives and terrorism and and 108 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: um all that jazz in your Pean theaters already in 109 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: the war. And so they set up a school, a 110 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: terrorist school, which supposedly these guys were trained in like 111 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu as well as explosives and stuff like that. 112 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: And I'll bet it looked a lot like um, enter 113 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: the Dragon in there, but with Germans, you know. Yeah. 114 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if they were training kung fu school on 115 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: an island somewhere, but this is in the woods. I 116 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: wonder if they in the Black forest perhaps. I wonder 117 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: if they were trained in pe knuckle and movie watching 118 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: and car buying I think that, and rolling over and 119 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: singing like a canary. So the the app there um 120 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: selected a man. His name was Walter Capp Or is 121 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: that Cappy Walter cop what Walter Capp, who was a pudgy, 122 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: bull necked man as described in the history article, and 123 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: the reason that they selected him to head up this operation, 124 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: which Cap came to um nickname is Operation Pastorious, which 125 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: was named after Francis Daniel past Story is one of 126 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: the early German immigrants to the United States who arrived 127 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia in three The reason they selected Cap for 128 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: this operation was because he had lived in America for 129 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: twelve years already, so he was he was he understood America, 130 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: how it functioned, what targets should be struck, that kind 131 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: of stuff. And they said, select your teams, and so 132 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: he put a donkey on the wall and got a 133 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: tale with a little pin on it. Right now. What 134 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: he did was he did some research and he went 135 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: through the records of something called the Austlin Institute, and 136 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: they were big on getting Germans back to Germany ones 137 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: that had emigrated to the United States workout, yeah, okay, 138 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: So specifically the ones who were looking he was looking 139 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: for ones who had been in the United States in 140 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: this case, and a lot of these people have been 141 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: in what was called the Boon or is it the 142 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: bund uh I would say it's a booned, the American booned, 143 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: which was like the basically the Nazi sympathizers in the 144 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: United States, and they would set up little shops all 145 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: over the country. Yeah, and they would speak out against 146 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: UM Franklin Roosevelt or UM speak in favor of fascism. 147 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: And apparently they managed to get twenty thousand people at 148 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a rally at Madison Square Garden once by holding a 149 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Knicks game. Pretty much. I don't think the Knicks could 150 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: even get twenty people would come out to Madison Square. Um, 151 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: but they were so unpredictable and radical here in the 152 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: United States that even the Nazi Party officially distanced itself 153 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: from these guys officially. Unofficially they recruited from their ranks 154 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: specifically for Operation Pastorious. Yeah. So what he uh? He 155 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: found some some blue collar dudes, um. All but two 156 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: of them had been Nazi Party members, which was a 157 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: good start. Ford dropped off right off the bat, and 158 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: that left him with what would be U eight dudes, 159 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: which they divided up into two teams of four, one 160 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: leader on each side and three dopes below them, with 161 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: with cap at the head of the whole thing. Yeah. 162 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: Even though he didn't come over to the United States 163 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: for the operation. He was just sort of running the 164 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: training initially. Yeah, and he was watching him do jiu jitsu. 165 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: I guess so you're in the hilarious Germans. I don't 166 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: think so. It just seems a little like, you know, 167 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: neighborhood ninja camp kind of stuff. You know. Well, they 168 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: had to train in some sort of hand to hand combat. No, 169 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: they're saboteurs. They're not. They don't need to know that 170 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: they're not. They're supposed to know how to blow up 171 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: a bridge. Yeah, but what if they it caught in 172 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: the middle. I gotta like turn and run away jiu 173 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: jitsu somebody down. Now, you just run if you're a saboteur. Well, 174 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: that's some foreshadow right there. So I hear the players 175 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: on on one on Team one, we'll call it Team 176 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: um Nights. How about that? That one? Sure? On Team Minds, 177 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: you had the leader George John Dosh and he was 178 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: thirty nine. He was the oldest guy and uh thirty nine, 179 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: and he was picked because he was um. He was 180 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: a smooth talker, and he was apparently just seemed very American, 181 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: which was you're gonna stick some Germans over there to 182 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: to be saboteurs. It's probably good if they can pass 183 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: themselves off as just regular good German Americans. Right. Plus 184 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: also you have the added benefit of not having to 185 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: teach them to speak colloquial English. Sure. Um, and they 186 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: already know the terrain, they know the culture. Where's Coney Island? 187 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: Vant the hotdog exactly? Yeah, so they were all good, right. Yeah, 188 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: was that count Dracula? Uh No, that was that was 189 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: my German saboteur. So that's why they went with the 190 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: guys who had already spent time in America. Plus they 191 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: it also showed, um, a pretty significant loyalty to your homeland, 192 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: the fatherland in this case, where when war breaks out, 193 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: you go back to where the war is being fought supported. Yeah, 194 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So they're like selecting from 195 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the Ostlands Institute roles of emigrants who were also boond members. 196 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: It seemed like a just to knock it out of 197 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: the park group of guys. Yeah, so um, uh josh, 198 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: he was. He actually did, like he said, served in 199 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: the German Army in World War One, came to America, 200 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: worked as a waiter, and then in nineteen thirty nine said, 201 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: you know what duty calls, I'm going back home. Um. 202 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: The second guy on the first team, Ernest Peter Berger. 203 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: He was supposedly a smart guy, and he had an 204 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: interesting story because he was he had long been a Nazi, 205 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: since they said, as you know, as long as Hitler 206 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: himself had been a Nazi. Yeah, he was part of 207 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: the beer hall push. Yeah, he was what you call 208 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: a what's the early adopter. He was Nazis, he really was. 209 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: And he he actually had fled Germany for the United 210 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: States because he was afraid he was going to get 211 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: brought up on brawling charges. That's right. He like to fight. Yeah, 212 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: And he stayed there for about six years and then 213 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: worked as a machinist in the Midwest, even joined the 214 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: National Guard, the U. S National Guard, and um became 215 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: an American citizen yep. And then he went back after 216 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Hitler game power, right, Well, he went back mainly because 217 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: of the Great Depression, because the right yeah, but I 218 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: mean it coincided. But he was like, yeah, this place 219 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: stinks now yeah, and Hitler's in power, I'm gonna go 220 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: become a brown shirt and rough up people on the street, 221 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: which is what he did. Pretty much because he really 222 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: did love to fight. And um, the brown Shirts were 223 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: purged in the Night of the Long Knives by Hitler 224 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: and his cronies and um Burger was it was Burger right? Yeah. 225 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: He he managed to not be killed during that purge. Yeah, 226 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: so he was working with his buddy um Ernst Room 227 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: of the Stormtroopers like serious business, right, Rome was actually 228 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: killed during the perch Oh yeah, they put apparently they 229 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: put a pistol in his cell with him and gave 230 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: him ten minutes to kill himself. And he said, if 231 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: if you want me dead, Adolph's gonna have to do 232 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: it himself. And they came back and he was staying 233 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: there right, and Hitler is like, what is going on here? Um, 234 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: and the guy was standing there with the shirt off, 235 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: with his chest bear to him. Yeah, supposedly, and they 236 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: just shot him in the chess point blank and the 237 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: head of the Brown Shirts went down. So that didn't 238 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: work out for him, No, but Burger did survive this, Yeah, 239 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: he did survive and went off to college. But then 240 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: he wrote a a paper about the Gestapo that was 241 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: not too favorable and he got sent to a concentration 242 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: camp for his efforts for seventeen months, right, and then 243 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: when he was released, they said you can come out, 244 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: but you have to go off with the army. Yeah, 245 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: they harassed his wife. It was I don't know that 246 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: he was the best pick, right, think we've antagonized, thrown 247 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: in prison and then forced into the army. We also 248 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: killed his boss, harassed his wife. Will trust him as 249 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: a savage as a team of one of eight, So 250 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Burger is the right hand man to Dash's team on 251 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Team Team mites E I n Z E I n Z. 252 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: And then there were other There were two other dudes, 253 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: Heinrich Henk, right, it's a great name, and Richard queerin Yes, 254 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: And they were a couple of machinists who, um, we're 255 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: a couple of machinists. They've been in America for a 256 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: while back, and we're selected for this team. Yeah. Basically 257 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: they went back to Germany started working at Volkswagen and um, 258 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, I guess we're probably eager to leap on 259 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: h top secret job like this. It's probably appealing to 260 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: these guys, you know. So that was Team Ice. We'll 261 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: talk about teams right after this. So Chuck tell us 262 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: about the smiling faces on Team survive well, Josh teams 263 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: FY was led by a man named Edward Curling or 264 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: Edward I guess who is I take it as the 265 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: only competent person in this entire mission. Yeah, he seemed 266 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: like it, right, kind of a little more than the rest. 267 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: Comparatively speaking, he seemed like a criminal genius. Yeah, that's 268 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: a good point. Um. So he was also one of 269 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: had gone to American to work, married a German woman 270 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: there and then they worked together as butler, butler and 271 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: cook for a little while, and then he said, you 272 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: know what, I don't like you anymore. I think I 273 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: want an American woman. So he did that and then, uh, 274 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: when the war broke out, he tried to sail to Germany. Right, 275 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if he was a mastermind either. 276 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: Another thing about it, well, he showed a lot of initiative. Well, 277 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: good point, and he was turned back by the um 278 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: the coast Guard. But he finally made it to Germany 279 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 1: UM in nineteen forty and he ended up working at 280 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: the Ministry of Propaganda. Yeah, I guess, huh yeah, sure. 281 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: And when he tried to um sail to Germany that 282 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: one time, he actually had a guy with him named Um, 283 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: was it Herbert new Bauer. I believe that was a 284 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: new Bauer on his boat. Yeah, he was on that crew, 285 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: and so he would have been turned back as well. So, um, 286 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: he was a natural fit, right, and each other and 287 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: Curling actually recommended Herman new Bauer uh to be part 288 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: of the team. He's like, he can hoist a sail. Yeah, 289 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: what else do you need? That he was in the 290 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: boone who cares that was the youngest member of his 291 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: crew at twenty two? Was Herbert helped? And um, he 292 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: moved to the U S when he was just five 293 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: years old. And so I don't know that he was 294 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: a great choice because he was practically American. Yeah, and 295 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: you know he was also not so smart, or put 296 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: it this way, experienced. He was not experienced, right, A 297 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: little a little green, a little wet behind the ears. Um. 298 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: And then the last guy, Werner Thiel, he surprised surprise 299 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: as a member of the boond and he was working 300 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: in a war plant. So just this weird hodgepodge rag 301 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: tag group of guys were selected. Only two people out 302 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: of the whole original twelve or had been in the military. 303 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: This sounds like a movie in the making, but it 304 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: just if it would have had a great third act, 305 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: it probably would already be a movie. Oh yeah, you 306 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, it is lack a third act. 307 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: I imagine like when if someone had tried to develop this, 308 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: like this sounds great so far, it's going great, and 309 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: then that's how it ends. Yeah, shel fit. Yeah. Um. 310 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: So these guys are put together. They're sent to the 311 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: over school to learn jiu jitsu, and the old guy, 312 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: George Josh is like low kick low kick, Oh my hip, 313 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: yeah you know. Yeah. They were also studying like explosive 314 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: techniques and wiring, not just explosive jiu jitsu technique, but 315 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: real explosive wiring, detonation timers, all of this stuff. They 316 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: got to go on field trips to um power plants 317 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: and bridges and canals and see like where the weak 318 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: points were um and all of this took place over 319 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: an intensive eighteen days of training. That's it. They got 320 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: eighteen days of training. Yeah, and apparently Josh, the leader 321 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: of Team Inns, wasn't even I read one account this 322 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: said he basically kind of snoozed through most of it, 323 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: which would go on to explain a few things later 324 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: it's hilarious. Eighteen days and you can't even stay awake 325 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: to learn how to blow something up. Seriously. Um, all right, one, 326 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: they were given their assignment, um, and these were I 327 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: mean this was pretty smart. The assignments were. They had 328 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: a good they had a good plan in place. Small 329 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: teams of dudes. Uh Dash's team was assigned to destroy 330 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: quite a few things. Um, hydro electric plants at Niagara Falls, 331 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: the Aluminum Company of America factory in Illinois, Tennessee, New 332 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: York three plants, and the Philadelphia Sault Company's cryolite plant, 333 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: which apparently supplies raw materials for aluminum. Right. And the 334 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: reason they want wanted to go after aluminium was because 335 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: aluminum production in the United States the output was greater 336 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: than all of Europe's both sides access and or no, 337 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. All of the access is aluminum production put together. 338 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: And aluminium is a very very valuable thing. During war 339 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: you used to make air craft frames. You use it 340 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: to make um, the interiors of ships. Apparently you use 341 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: it for everything from like m R. E's, like the 342 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: field ration tink hands or well not tin cans, aluminum 343 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: can but all of this stuff comes in handy. And 344 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: if you can sure pin wheels like the good ones, 345 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: if you um put those man, you can cut your 346 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: finger off with one of those things. Uh. If you 347 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: can cripple aluminum production, you can put a serious thing 348 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: in the wartime effort. Yeah, it was. It was a 349 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: smart play. Um. And then they are also told to 350 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: bomb um locks on the Ohio River between Louisville, Kentucky 351 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh. Yes, so disrupting transportation that would have been 352 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: a huge deal. They would just strap a bomb to 353 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: a pack mule that was supposed to be pulling a 354 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: boat along the canal and kaboom. So that's team mines. Yeah, 355 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: team spy curling steam. They said, all right, you guys, 356 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: we want you to concentrate on railroad because we saw 357 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: during the American Civil War destroying railroads is a great 358 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: way to cripple and army. Um they blew. And I 359 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: don't think that's where they got the idea. You know, 360 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: it's long been a wartime thing to destroy railroads. I 361 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: see Pennsylvania Railroad station at Newark. Uh, the Horseshoe Bend 362 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: section of railroad track near Altoona, Pennsylvania, Chesapeake and Ohio 363 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: railroad parts of it, the New York Central Railroads, Hell 364 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: Gate Bridge locks and canals in St. Louis, Cincinnati, Ohio, 365 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: and the water supply system of New York. Right. And 366 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: they were also told to carry out acts of general 367 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: terrorism to scare people in general, bombing Jewish own department stores, UM, 368 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: locker rooms at UM train stations, just basically just foment 369 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: like real fear and make Americans feel like, wow, America 370 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: is being struck. Yeah, we're vulnerable. Um. And so the 371 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: guy said, okay, let's do this, and they they they 372 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: shipped out on two different subs from Lorient, France. U 373 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: boats Baby, this is Germany, Yeah, okay, U boats. Um. 374 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: They left on U five eighty four in U two 375 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: oh two and um they had each team had four boxes, 376 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: three of like dynamite and other explosives, and then a 377 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: fourth box of things like timers and UM detonators and 378 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: wiring and all that stuff. Sausages sure, just in case 379 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: they got a little hungry on the trip. Yeah it 380 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: was Germans after all. They also had a lot of 381 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 1: money and roughly about a million dollars today UM. At 382 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: the time each group had fifty grand and they needed 383 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: this to travel and to live and to bribe people 384 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: and pay folks off right in cash. So they had 385 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: and what's equal to about a million dollars today in 386 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: cash on them and nothing greater than a fifty bill. 387 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: That's a lot of money, like physically a lot of money. 388 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: Each member was given nine thousand five of which it 389 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: was his very funny like team leader is going to 390 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: hold onto this and you can keep for yourself and 391 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: your money belt and only carry like four fifty in 392 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: your pocket, and um, that should be enough dough to 393 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: carry out this plan was the idea, yep, and then 394 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: the uh. The team leaders also got handkerchiefs that had 395 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: um the names and addresses and things of contacts in 396 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: invisible ink written on them. Yeah. So this is like 397 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: a bona fide spy, yes, bionage terrorism operation. Again, great 398 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: movie in the making so far, so the m And 399 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: again I think you said before that like Hitler was 400 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: planning on sending several waves or wave after wave. Apparently 401 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: the schedule was every six weeks they were going to 402 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: send one, one or two teams to the United States. Yeah, 403 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: I got, I mean it was a really smart and 404 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: scary plan. Um, because catching you know, a tiny team 405 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: of four guys who can assimilate as Americans, um or 406 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: at least good German Americans. That's that's tough to catch. 407 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: So chuck you uh two O two, which actually left 408 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: two days after you. Eight four showed up off like 409 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: fifty yards off the shoreline of Long Island and just 410 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: frightening the thing about. Yeah, there was a German U 411 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: boat fifty yards off of the shore of Long Island. 412 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: UM on June twelve, showed up about eight in the 413 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: evening and it belches out its cargo of um box 414 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: of explosives and saboteurs, and the dudes um as they're 415 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: rowing to shore, they put they were wearing like German 416 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: military uniforms. Yeah. I didn't fully and this didn't make 417 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: a ton of sense to me. Oh well, if you 418 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: were caught in playing was behind enemy lines. The rules 419 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: of war state that you can be shot on site, 420 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: but if you're caught as a German marine prisoner of 421 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: war and you have to be, that was taking a chance. 422 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: I would addressed as an American. No, I mean, like 423 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: I think that was smart. Yeah, I don't know. I 424 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: would have addressed. I would have tried to assimilate, not 425 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: been like, I'm a German marine, You're you're supposed to 426 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: take me hostage, right, But I think it would be yeah, 427 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: come on, let's go, I'm taking you hostage, whereas if 428 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: the guy had been like, you're a spy, I am 429 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: allowed to kill you right here and now. Yeah, I 430 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: just I don't know. I don't agree with that one, 431 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: but hey, everyone has their own rules when it comes 432 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: to saboteuring. So sabotaging, right, yes, sabotaging. I was just 433 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: kidding anyway, And I've learned recently that that was of um, 434 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: that's that words of recent providence. Did you know that, 435 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: like it didn't come into use until the beginning of 436 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: the twentieth century. That makes sense. I would have thought 437 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: it was a fairly old word. Yeah, nope. Did we 438 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: just think of sabotage or do we just start calling 439 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: it that? Like? Did they not used to sabotage back 440 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, I think they just started calling 441 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: it that. Okay, So, um, the so this is Dash's 442 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: team team since team mines, and they show up on 443 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: the shore and they're wearing again German military uniforms, which 444 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: they took off really quickly, very quickly. Yeah, once they 445 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: saw that. You know, Okay, we made it. Yeah, the 446 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: operation has begun. They changed, right, Yeah, they changed clothes 447 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: and they started uh I guess they put on there 448 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: I love New York shirts and they started digging big 449 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: holes in the beach to to bury these munitions so 450 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: they could come back as needed when they wanted to 451 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: blow something new up. Yes, they can't just carry that 452 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: stuff around, No, and they needed to just stash everything 453 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: and go and cool out and make sure that no 454 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: one was like onto him or anything like that, and 455 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: then come back and get it, like you said, as 456 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: they need. Yeah. The plan was to meet up for 457 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: the two teams to meet up in Cincinnati on July four, 458 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: UM for a baseball game. That is what I'm imagining. Yeah, 459 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: the Reds versus the Braves. I don't know where the 460 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: Braves were then, probably Milwaukee, sure, Okay, I don't think 461 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: they moved to Atlanta until the sixties. Yeah, but I 462 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: was trying to think of Boston, but they were that 463 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: was long before so um. The team in inst was 464 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: it was changing. They just landed. They were in the 465 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: midst of changing when they were discovered by coast guardsman. Yeah. 466 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: Well one of them was that Josh climbed over a 467 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: dune and while the other guys were still bearing and 468 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: changing uh their clothes, and he walked up and there 469 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: was a coast guard dude, John Cullen, standing right there, 470 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, what you're doing, basically, and 471 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: the guy was like, oh, nothing and uh he uh. 472 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: He apparently was kind of handling things when comes over 473 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: and Burger thought that so the team Inns had been 474 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: rowed to shore by two German sailors, and I guess 475 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: Burger lost track of the German sailors and assume that 476 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: they were still there and that for some reason it 477 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: was only Josh four guys plus the two right. And 478 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: then Josh had climbed over the dune to talk to 479 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: one of the sailors. So Burger comes up and asks 480 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: the question in German, and the coastguardsman, John Cullen, is like, 481 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: why are you speaking German? We're at war with Germany. 482 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: What's going on? And at that point Josh tells Burger 483 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: to get Yeah. He said, you fool, go back to 484 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: the others. And the guy was like, what others? Wait 485 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: a minute, And so Josh's story was that they were 486 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: um fisherman stranded Fisherman and before he got really suspicious, Cullen, 487 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: the guy from the Coastguard said, well, if you guys 488 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: are Shannon Fisherman's yeah, we have a Coastguard like house 489 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: party house up the beach. We just ordered some pizza. 490 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: Come with me. You guys can eat some pizza and 491 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: um chill out. And Josh is like, well, uh, we 492 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: don't have any idea on us. Yeah, we don't fishing 493 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: permits either. We don't want to get in trouble. And 494 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: I was like, well, you're telling a guy from the 495 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: coast guy that, so you're in trouble first of all, 496 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: but secondly that strikes me as weird. About that time, 497 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: Burger comes up asked his question in German, and Josh 498 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: sees the writing on the wall and tells Um tells Colin, well, 499 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: he says, do you have a mother and Colin says yes, 500 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: And he goes do you have a father? Says yes, 501 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: and Dash says, well, then I wouldn't want to kill you, 502 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: So how about I give you some money you can 503 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: forget that this ever happened. And he tries to give 504 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: him a hundred bucks and Colin says nope, yeah, he 505 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: says no, thank you, um, and he said He ends 506 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: up giving him two hundred and sixty dollars and Colin 507 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: basically realize that something was going down and I just 508 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: needed just take this money and act like I'm down 509 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: with the take and get out of here. So so 510 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: he does, so he does. He's scaddles and then oh 511 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: but not before this is very key piece. Actually, Josh 512 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: grabbed his flashlight before he left and shined it on 513 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: his own face and said, you will be meeting me 514 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: in East Hampton sometime soon. Do you know who I am? 515 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: And then guy was like, no, I don't know who 516 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: you are. And he said my name is George John Davis, 517 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: which was a lie. Uh well, it was his real 518 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: alias for the mission though, so like he actually gave 519 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: him his real alias, and he said what's your name? 520 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: And um, Colin said Frank Collins, which was a lie. 521 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: Which was a lie. Pretty quick thinking and um, basically 522 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: he scrambled back and Josh came back over and was like, 523 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: little seeing there, guys, I totally took care of it. 524 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: Should not be a big deal. Don't even worry about 525 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: paying the guy two sixty. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, So 526 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: everybody finished bearing these boxes, which they did, and um 527 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: Colin ran off and went and grabbed some of his 528 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: fellow Coast guardsmen. By the time they got back, Team 529 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: Science had left a train. But apparently, and this is 530 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: another thing, so the U boat that dropped off Team 531 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: Acience had grounded itself on a sandbar and was sitting 532 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: there like trying to get back out to sea because 533 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: Dawn was just rocked back and forth in your chair? 534 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: Was that that's what it looked, was that the method 535 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: in there? Yeah, it just moved right exactly. And finally 536 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: the tide came in just enough for them to dislodge 537 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: themselves and go back out of seat, just in time. 538 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: But apparently um Colon and the other Coast Guards wanh 539 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: it came back, caught sight of this U boat heading 540 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: back out to sea. Not good, right, No German U 541 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: boat off the coast of Long Island just ran into 542 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: some guys who are speaking German and tried to pay 543 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: you off. And then now all of a sudden, in 544 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: the moonlight, you can see the ghostly outlines of four 545 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: freshly dug holes in the sand. Let's see what's in there. Yeah, 546 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if um i couldn't find. I saw that 547 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: about the boat being stuck, but I couldn't find if 548 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: that was like, if they could have gotten away, you know, 549 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: it could have all changed. They may not have been 550 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: that suspicious. I think that Collen was suspicious. Yeah, he 551 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: was definitely coming back, but seeing the U boat was 552 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: just icing on the cake exactly. Okay, so the other 553 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: dudes had hop date. Well, they dug up the holes 554 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: and they found the stuff and said, okay, um, this 555 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: is a huge deal. Yeah, we just found a trove 556 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: of explosives in German military uniforms buried on the beach, 557 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: like sixty miles from New York. Yeah, so Toots sweet. 558 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: By ten twenty three that morning, those boxes were in 559 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: the office of New York City Police Captain John Bayliss, 560 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: who then promptly got in touch with the FBI, and 561 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: by noon that day, thirteen hours after they had arrived, 562 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: the FBI had all that stuff in custody, and j 563 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: Edgar Hoover said, there's a to get a blackout on 564 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: the news, so these guys don't get wise to this, 565 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: and we need to get the largest man hunting FBI 566 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: history underway. And they did, and we will explore that 567 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: and all the ways the FBI got some lucky breaks 568 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: on this right after these messages. All right, so Team Science, 569 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: let's recap here. They are in Manhattan. They go shopping 570 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: at Macy's. Of course. Yeah, we got a lot of cash. 571 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: All they had with them was the clothes the civilian, 572 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: the clothes they brought and all that cash. Yeah, that 573 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: was it. Everything else is buried back to the beach, 574 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: but is now an FBI custody unbeknownst to these guys. 575 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: That's right. So they go shopping at Macy's. They split 576 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: into they said, let's split up into pairs, because that 577 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: makes sense. Uh, Kieran and uh he checked into the 578 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: hotel Martinique ssh and Burger I went to the Governor 579 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: Clinton hotel Governor Bill Clinton, and uh, I don't think so. 580 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: And um, unless he was named after the hotel, Oh yeah, 581 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: I never know. That's why he always wanted to be governor. 582 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: And so apparently, um, Josh and Burger met. He summoned 583 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: Burger to his hotel room up on a tall floor 584 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: and opened the window and said, I've got a plan 585 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you about it, and if you're 586 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: on board, you're on board. But if you're not, then 587 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: one of us is leaving through the door. One of 588 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: us is leaving through the window. He basically threw down 589 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: the gauntlet Burg to Burger, I wow, I didn't realize that. Yeah, 590 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: And so Burger he basically said, I would like to 591 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: turn and sabbothe tour, sabotage the sabotage, and go against Germany. 592 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: And because America is kind of great. So Josh was 593 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: going to kill Burger if Burger can go along with it. 594 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: That's what he said. And apparently Burger had the choice 595 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: to like, or you can you can defeat you and 596 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: throw you out the window where you can triumph and 597 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: be the living victor. Yeah. So I think Burger was 598 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: just on board. And they said that in this article 599 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: that um Josh probably was telling the truth that he was. 600 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: He was really this was his idea from the beginning. 601 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: So here's the here's the question. Like, historically speaking, Josh 602 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: has been uh seen as a genuine betrayer of this mission. Sure, 603 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: but when he became a genuine betrayer of the mission 604 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: is is issue? Still? According to this history and that article, 605 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: either he he knew it before they even landed, and 606 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: that that is why he showed his face and gave 607 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: his real alias to John Colin on the beach, which 608 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: makes sense, or his encounter with John Colin on the 609 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: beach rattled him enough that he was like, this is 610 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: never gonna work. We're already we're already dead in the water. 611 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: That's a quick turn. So now I'm going to go 612 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: ahead and betray it. Yeah. I say that he was 613 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: in on it from the beginning. That's what that's my feeling, 614 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: because he was in sicycle. Just I don't know, it 615 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: seems like a really quick like they just land on 616 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: the beach. Five minutes later he meets a guy and 617 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: he's like, wait a minute, it's off. I'm gonna betray Germany. 618 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: It just seemed I don't know, a little too hasty. 619 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: Well maybe he had nerves of spaghetti. Yeah, cook spaghetti. 620 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: Even so, uh, he says, here's the plan, the on 621 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: Monday burger. Yeah, he said, on Monday, I'm gonna go 622 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: to the head. They closed the window by now I 623 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: think said they went to dinner and everything was good, 624 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: and he said, I'm gonna go to Uh, I'm gonna 625 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: go to Washington meet with j Edgar Hoover. That should 626 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: be pretty easy to get that meeting. The man himself, Yeah, 627 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: here he wears nothing but a caper on the office, 628 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: and he said, you go back to the other two 629 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: guys and just sort of occupied them for a little 630 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: while while I'm going to d C and requesting a 631 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: meeting with the FBI. The head of the FBI, um 632 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: so Burger, says do this. Josh says, okay. It's Sunday, 633 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: and Josh doesn't make his way to d C until 634 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: Thursday morning. Instead, he goes so remember he was a 635 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: waiter in America. Well, he called. He called the FBI first, 636 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: at least right and the reason why he called first 637 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: he was a little worried because apparently back in UM 638 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: in a training camp in the woods, cop Falter Cop 639 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: had said, you guys don't need to worry, we have 640 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: a man on the inside of the FBI. So Um, 641 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: Josh was worried that if he called, or if he 642 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: just showed up at FBI headquarters he talked to that 643 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: one guy right out of all the FBI guys, he 644 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: would have that that level of bad luck, which, from 645 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: what I understand, that was something that was a good 646 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: concern for her to have um. So he called the 647 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: New York Bureau first and said, I'm a German dude, 648 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: I've got information for Jacker Hoover. Tell him I'm coming. 649 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: And then he hung up, and he went to a 650 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: club for waiters and then played pinuckle for like two 651 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: straight days. Yeah, I get I think he was probably gambling. 652 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: That's what I think too, because if I'm not mistaken 653 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: with the math, he ended up with more money than 654 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: he came with. Yeah, so he wentn't gambled with sabotage money. 655 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: I think. So, Man, that guy is some serious. He's 656 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. Uh So, eventually he said, all right, I 657 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: gotta go to Washington. This peanuckle game has dried up. 658 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: So he hopped on the Sella Express for Washington, which 659 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: I highly recommend. By the way, man, train travel is awesome. 660 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: Regional train travel is a delight, such a delight, And 661 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: especially from Boston to New York. You just right along 662 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: the coastline there and it's just lovely. It is lovely. 663 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: Sailboats and cape cod houses on points, lobster rolls. Yeah, 664 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: it's nice, good stuff. All right. So Josh has arrived 665 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: by train finally. By this point, team spy has landed. Yeah, 666 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: show up in Florida and they're like, let's do this 667 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: for real. And I imagine Pontevedra Beach in three It 668 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: was a pretty low key scenario for sure, you know, yeah, 669 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: I would think so. So they are twenty five miles 670 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: south of Jacksonville. They bury their crates, no sweat, hop 671 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: on a bus, go to Jacksonville. Um. They split up 672 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: from that point to went to Cincinnati too, went to Chicago. Yeah, 673 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: and like I mean, there was no must There wasn't 674 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: like any no one was calling the FBI like they 675 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: were in it to win it basically. Yeah, why they 676 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: should have done Team I should have done their recond beforehand. 677 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: The U boat should have not pulled up next to 678 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: a Coastguard station first of all. That would have been 679 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: one thing. Yeah, because that Coastguard station was like half 680 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: a mile away. Yeah, it was there. All right, maybe 681 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: they're bad until so, uh Josh gets to d C, 682 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: checks into the Mayflower Hotel. Yeah, this is the same 683 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 1: day that Caroling's group lands in Pontevedra. It's a big day, 684 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: huge day. Uh, And he in d C said all right, 685 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the FBI again because you gotta meet 686 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: with Hoover, and he reached out to a Dwayne Trainer, 687 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: and of course, Trainer says, you know, this is probably 688 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: not a legitimate call. We get these kind of weird 689 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: calls all the time, but just in case, um, let's 690 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: go pick him up. Yeah, let's let's see what's going on. 691 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: It's a slow day at headquarters. Yeah exactly. So they 692 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: go and pick up the German and they bring him 693 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: to the Justice Department, and Dash said that he was 694 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: basically bounced from agent to agent every He's kind of 695 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: a hot potato on nobody wanted to deal with him, 696 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: And finally he convinced these guys enough to end up 697 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 1: in the office of Mickey Ladd, who was running the 698 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: man hunt for the spies, and the head of the 699 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: Spies was now sitting in his office, Yeah, telling him 700 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: he's the head of the spies, and he still didn't 701 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 1: quite believe him until Dash said, oh, yeah, well here, 702 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: let me show you this and dumped out dollars on 703 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: Lad's desk and Lads said, I'm so pleased you came 704 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: in today. Come with me. Yeah, so, Josh, here's here's 705 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: his idea. Is I want to talk to Hoover himself, 706 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be a hero and I might even 707 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: get like a medal of honor out of this, right, 708 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: Like maybe Jagger will have me over to his house 709 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: for dinner. Who knows what could come of this. Take 710 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: your tape parade, They threw those all the time back then. 711 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: Um so they the FBI gets them talking. He does 712 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: get to meet Hoover briefly, but um, a couple of 713 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: other agents take his deposition, which lasts for thirteen hours. 714 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: Before he finished, he had told them about Burger and 715 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: where Burger was, and they went and picked up Burger. Yeah, 716 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: he like, while he was still telling him the story, 717 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: they were already on Burger's hotel staking him out. Yep, 718 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: so they before they picked up Burger, they were staking 719 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: him out, like you said. And they watched Burger go 720 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: meet Karen and Hink and so they just arrested all 721 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: three of them, and all all of a sudden, they 722 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: had team in custody within like a day of um 723 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: dash walking in the FBI headquarters. It didn't go so 724 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: well for team I No, so when when the team 725 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: leader betrays you, like, yeah, you're you're in trouble. Your 726 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: toast so on June twenty two, Hoover wrote to f 727 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: d R and said, you know what, sir, we've we've 728 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: caught all the members of this group that landed on 729 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: Long Island. Pretty great, huh and we are awesome. Um. 730 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: He didn't mention that the guy turned himself in and 731 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: told him where everyone was, and uh so FDR was 732 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: just thought that Hoover had done like a bang up 733 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: job basically, and he's like, wait, way to go, way 734 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: to do your job exactly. He lied pretty much, so 735 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: um Dash had no real leads or anything about team, 736 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: but he did have a handkerchief that had contacts on 737 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: invisible inc. And surprisingly he hadn't blown his nose in 738 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: it at this point, but he and remember how you 739 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: were supposed to get the invisible ink to become visible. Luckily, 740 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: the FBI had a crack team of lab Tex on 741 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: this thing and they figured it out. And now all 742 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: of a sudden they had the names and addresses of 743 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: all of the German contexts for these teams right there 744 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: in their hands, thanks to Josh Right. So they were 745 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: all obviously staked out, just waiting on Team Heights or 746 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Team Spy to meet up with these people, right, 747 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: which they did. But first teams FI did some other 748 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: weird stuff like Herbert hopped. He was in Chicago, where 749 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 1: again he had lived since he was five, and Holpe 750 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 1: decided that he would buy a Pontiac car. Yea, yeah. 751 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: He went to his parents house, told his dad everything. Yeah, 752 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: I had his dad buy in the car. Yep, and um, 753 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: he proposed to his girlfriend. He remember he had left 754 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: during the war and he was an able bodied man 755 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: over age eighteen, and so the local draft board um 756 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: wanted to know where he was. So he dropped by 757 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: FBI headquarters to clear up his draft problem. Says I'm back. Sorry, 758 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: I've already registered with my local draft board. No need 759 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: to track me anymore. I'm just an all American boy. 760 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: And um the FBI was like, yeah, sure, thank you 761 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: for coming by, and then tailed them on the way out, 762 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: and then he led them to at least one other 763 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: team member, right yeah. And while this was going on, 764 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: Curling and verner Thiel went to New York UM and 765 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: met up with a friend named Helmet Lena because they 766 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: wanted to have sex with a lady, and so Lena 767 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: hooked him up with the mis his mistress said here, 768 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: have sex with her, and he said great, thanks, and 769 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: he ended up traveling with that woman. Curling did and 770 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 1: within a couple of days after Dash surrendered. Um, they 771 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: spotted Curling because they were trailing him at a bar 772 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: where he met with Deal, and they arrested both of 773 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: those guys. Right, So two down on team Spy about help, 774 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, three down at this point. Right, Hope was 775 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: taken down in Chicago. The only one left at this 776 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: point was Herman new Bauer. Right, and new Bauer spent 777 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: his time in was it in New York? Uh? I 778 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 1: think he was in chick Okay, you're probably right. Um, 779 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: he just went to the movies over and over again. 780 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: That's what he did. He was apparently lonely, so he 781 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: sought out some friends of his wife, whom he hadn't 782 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: really met before. Umthing told him everything. He gave him 783 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: his money for safekeeping, but kept enough to go to 784 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: the movies a bunch. So basically he kept a dollar right, 785 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 1: and um, okay, dollar fifty and h then he um 786 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: was I think he just come back from the movies 787 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: when the FBI picked him up. Right, So Dash remember 788 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: is sure that like he's going to be feted as 789 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: a herero that Jaker Hoover is probably like thinking about 790 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: him right then, he's just like basically like Ralphie in 791 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: a Christmas story, just daydreaming about like how he's going 792 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: to be carried around on everyone's shoulders. He probably should 793 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: have been so, I mean, he's the reason why this 794 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: went south because he said, you know what, I'm siding 795 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: with America. The thing is Hoover. He didn't care Jager Hoover. 796 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: Not only did he not care, Hoover was taking the 797 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: credit for all of this unraveled, right. He couldn't let 798 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: Josh be known as this guy who had come and 799 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: um given him this whole thing on a platter, or 800 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: else Hoover would look like an idiot, and Josh might 801 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: very well have been hailed as at least a slimy 802 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: collaborators rather than a criminal. After everybody was rounded up, 803 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 1: the FBI arrested Josh, and Josh must have been quite 804 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: surprised by this. Well, yeah, they arrested him, but they said, hey, 805 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: just go along with this. You'll get a full presidential 806 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: pardon after six months. Sort of play along with the arrest, 807 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: and he was like, Okay, I see so put me 808 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: in the jail with the other guys so they don't 809 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: know yeah exactly. It was like, yeah, sure, well, because 810 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: that job with Hooper's planned to keep it all quiet 811 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: still exactly was working out great for Hoover, it didn't 812 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: work out great for Josh or the others. Chuck No. 813 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: So um FDR wanted to make sure that he could 814 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: get the death penalty and that this could be kept quiet. 815 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: So he as he formed a military tribunal to try 816 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: these guys, and it was the first one since um 817 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln had been assassinated. It was a big deal. So 818 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: the prosecutor was Attorney General Francis Biddle, chief defense was 819 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: Colonel Kenneth Royal Um. They defense argued initially for a 820 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: civilian trial that was quickly scrapped and they said, no, 821 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: we're going to move forward with the tribunal and held 822 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: the trial out the Justice Department in Washington during the 823 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: month of July nine and basically said, we know the 824 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: whole there's not going to be much of a trial, fellas, 825 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: we know everything because you told us everything. You are 826 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 1: coming here to sabotage and blow up our junk and 827 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: you're in big trouble. Right, And the prosecutors sought the 828 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: death penalty as expected. Um, but it was up to 829 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: FDR to decide when and where, and to do that 830 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: he had to have a transcript of the trial. And 831 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: when he got this transcript of the trial, he it 832 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 1: became obvious that Hoover hadn't really done anything. Yeah. Appinently 833 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: FDR never called him out on it in public, No, 834 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: which was a nice thing to do, I guess, because 835 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: that would have just been further embarrassment for like the 836 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: whole country, you know. So they kept that quiet, but 837 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 1: at this point it was news all over the country. 838 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: They weren't keeping it quiet with a press, uh. And 839 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: the American public was way in favor of the death penalty. 840 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: In fact, there was an open letter published in one 841 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: newspaper calling for them to be fed to Gargantua, the 842 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: guerrilla at the Wringling Brothers circuit, because that's fair to 843 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 1: Gargantua too, Yeah, eat those Germans. Well. Instead, they electrocuted 844 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: six of them on August eight of the District jail 845 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. That's right, um, including Herbert Hout 846 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: who was just like, I just wanted up Pontiac, Yeah, 847 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,919 Speaker 1: I just wanted to see my parents. Right, Burger and 848 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: Uh and Josh were spared the death penalty because they 849 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: basically had a hard time proving in court that they 850 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: didn't you know, fully intend to betray the operation. Yeah, exactly, 851 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: So they did not get electrocuted. Um. They were sentenced 852 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: Burger too hard labor for the rest of his life, 853 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: and Josh was given thirty years. But President Truman commuted 854 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 1: their sentences, released them and deported them, had them shipped 855 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: to UM West Germany. West Berlin said don't come back, Nope, 856 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: get out, and the other guys were buried in a 857 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,439 Speaker 1: potter's field by the way and outside Washington, Yes, which 858 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 1: is now UM the d C Municipal Water treatment plant 859 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: where they were buried. Yeah, just right now. They're part 860 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: of the system, I guess Um. And so Josh and 861 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: Burger go back to Germany and Burger starts like feeding 862 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: the media Um the story basically five years later and 863 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 1: blames Right and blames Josh for the deaths of these 864 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 1: other six German patriots who were saboteurs. Right and Josh 865 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: Um tried to publicly clear himself through he first saw 866 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: to pardon in America so that he could come back. 867 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: He really wanted to get that Germany, Yeah, I can imagine, um, 868 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: and Uh America said, no, we're not going to do that. 869 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: We're not going to pardon you. We're still mad at you. 870 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: Germany said, we're mad at you too, and so he 871 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: just kind of faded out of the public spotlight. Ye. 872 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: He he ended up dying in nineteen at the age 873 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: of eighty nine, and I didn't see any follow up 874 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: or Burger for Burger. I think he wasn't quite as 875 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: vilified as Doosh was, right for sure. But that was 876 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: not the last time the Germans sent saboteurs ashore. There 877 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: was at least one other ill fated attempt in another 878 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,760 Speaker 1: German submarine. These are expensive boats. Many, they are really 879 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: taking a massive risk to drop off a couple of saboteurs. 880 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: But they did it again off off of Maine in 881 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 1: a snowstorm, and two uh former American residents German Americans, um, 882 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: we're we're sent off under the main coast in a snowstorm. 883 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: They were seen by a local boy scout using a 884 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: compass during the snowstorm on the side of the road, 885 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 1: and the boy scout was suspicious, so he traced their 886 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: tracks all the way back to the shoreline when they 887 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: come out of nowhere and he's like, I'm going to 888 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,479 Speaker 1: call the police. So the scouts actually called these guy. Yeah, 889 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. What's ironic is one of these German 890 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: American saboteurs was a boy scout himself, so it's like 891 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: boy scout on boy scout tattling um. And they got 892 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 1: picked up immediately, and as far as everybody knows, that's 893 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: the last time Germany ever tried that. Yeah. I think 894 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: the idea was that hitler Um. It's like this, this 895 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: is embarrassing. Yeah, let's just focus on the rocket program. Yeah, 896 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: we can't keep sending guys to the United States who 897 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: immediately get there and start doing stupid things giving themselves up. 898 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: Go and see mom and Dad seeing the movies playing 899 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: p knockle. So that's it. That's the story of the 900 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: time the Nazis invaded Florida and New York and Maine. Uh. 901 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: If you want to know more about that, check out 902 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,479 Speaker 1: history Net, check out damn interesting, check out all sorts 903 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 1: of stuff. Yes, just search it. You'll find all sorts 904 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: of cool things on it. 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