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Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocates dot com. Ryan is on the

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Speaker 1: phone today for a first date follow up and he's

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Speaker 1: getting ghosted by Ella. So in a few minutes we'll

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Speaker 1: call her see if you tell us why she's ghosting

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Speaker 1: and maybe get him another date the first Ryan, how

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Speaker 1: long has it been since you heard from Ella?

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Speaker 2: It's been It's just been a few days. But you know,

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Speaker 2: it was such an instant connection. I'm really baffled.

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Speaker 1: What was your last interaction?

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Speaker 2: Like, well, we I mean initially we we were just

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Speaker 2: you know, texting over Bumble the dating app, and but

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Speaker 2: but we we did go out. We went on a

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Speaker 2: We went on a first date to a nice restaurant,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think it could have gone any better.

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Speaker 1: Really, Okay, we'll tell us about the date.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we went to the Italian Place.

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Speaker 2: We were both both pasta lovers, and we were just laughing, drinking.

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Speaker 3: We bonded over the fact that.

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Speaker 2: We're both newly divorced and still new to the dating world.

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Speaker 3: Everything's changed a lot.

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Speaker 2: And she she told me she wanted to start a family,

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Speaker 2: and I told her, I, actually, I'm already a dad,

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Speaker 2: and she took that she was just like in she was.

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Speaker 2: She wanted to see pictures of my son and wanted

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Speaker 2: to hear stories. It was an incredible conversation after you know,

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Speaker 2: the check came and everything, and she didn't want it

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Speaker 2: to or we didn't want it to end, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So we went to the bar to you know, to

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Speaker 3: have a little coffee and just keep chatting. And you know,

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Speaker 3: we both had to get up the.

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Speaker 2: Next morning and work, so we made plans to meet

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Speaker 2: up again. I thought we could go on a bike ride,

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Speaker 2: and she was into that idea and said, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'd text her the next day.

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Speaker 3: And I mean I thought that second day was going

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Speaker 3: to happen for sure.

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Speaker 4: So you guys basically made plans for a second date

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Speaker 4: and just never happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I haven't. She didn't respond back ever.

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Speaker 1: Did anything awkward at all happened on the date? Any

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Speaker 1: reason you can think of that you're getting ghosted?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like the one there's one thing where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I guess I could have This might have been a

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Speaker 2: dumb thing to say. When we switched from our you know,

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Speaker 2: our dinner table to the bar. The bartender came up

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Speaker 2: to us, and he asked if me and my wife,

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Speaker 2: you know, wanted what we wanted to drink? And I

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Speaker 2: didn't correct him. I said, oh, you know, I thought

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Speaker 2: it was kind of cute. I thought, actually, my wife

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Speaker 2: and I were just going to have an express, so

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Speaker 2: it's okay.

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Speaker 3: And she laughed too, and you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I I thought, okay, sweet, like she gets my

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Speaker 2: sense of humor and everything. And I went to the bathroom.

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Speaker 2: I came back, but she was if something happened. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, she maybe had time to think about it,

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Speaker 2: or I offended her, you know. When I got back,

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Speaker 2: she seemed kind of anxious to leave a little antsy,

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Speaker 2: and we just, you know, hugged it by kissed her

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Speaker 2: on the cheek. And I don't I guess. I guess

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Speaker 2: I put my foot in my mouth there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if she laughed about it.

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Speaker 4: However, I could see if you're somebody that's freshly divorced

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Speaker 4: and not being a wife anymore, and then even to

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Speaker 4: be joked, like even if it's just joking, that's a

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Speaker 4: title that you gave up, and then to be like, ah,

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Speaker 4: her feels, maybe had nothing to do with you at all.

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Speaker 4: It just kind of put her in her feels or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that's tough. Have you reached out

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Speaker 1: to her then? Since?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the next day I texted about, you know,

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Speaker 2: the bike ride. I had found some different you know,

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Speaker 3: And you know, I didn't hear anything back, and I figured, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I don't know, if she's busy or whatever, I'd

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Speaker 2: just give it a little little space. I texted, you

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Speaker 2: know again the next day and yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's radio SI.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well we'll see if we can figure it

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Speaker 1: out for you. Then we'll play a song come Back,

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Speaker 1: and then call her and Steef Hotels why she's ghosting you,

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Speaker 1: and maybe get to another date. Okay, that'd be great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll play a song come back, get your

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Speaker 1: first day follow up next. Right in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the first day follow up and if you're just joining us,

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Speaker 1: Ryan is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Ella.

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Speaker 1: So we're about to call her Stuftels why she's ghosting him,

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Speaker 1: and maybe get him another date. But before we do that, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: why don't you refresh our memory on your date with Ella.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we went out to dinner Italian restaurant. We had

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Speaker 2: a great time. She loved the fact that I'm a

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Speaker 2: dad and she's she's divorced too, and you know, but

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Speaker 2: still wants to have a family. We had coffee at

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Speaker 2: the bar after dinner, and I referred to as my

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Speaker 2: wife as a joke, and then the vibe changed.

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Speaker 1: It was sacrifice tough when something like that happens off somewhere,

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Speaker 1: you're on a date and someone calls him your girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: because you don't want to be like, yeah, they are,

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Speaker 1: but you also don't to be like whoa, no way,

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Speaker 1: don't even think that far the other way, like I

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Speaker 1: would never all right, well that would be wait you

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Speaker 1: ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Please?

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Hello, I I speak to Ella.

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Speaker 1: Please Ella? Hi, how are you? My name is Jubel.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling from a radio show called the Jubil Show. Hi. Ella,

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Speaker 1: I'm mean I'm here too.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm okay, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever listen to the show at all?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well maybe do that from time to time to

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Speaker 1: be cool, but also no pressure if you haven't, we

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Speaker 1: do a segment on our show. It's called the First

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Speaker 1: eight follow Up. That's where you go out on a

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Speaker 1: date with somebody and then end up ghosting them. That

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Speaker 1: person can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 1: and ask why you're ghosting them. So, my gosh, we

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Speaker 1: got an email about you. You're kidding, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Do you know who would email us?

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Speaker 5: I have an.

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Speaker 1: Idea you want to take a guess?

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Speaker 5: Is it Ryan? Yes?

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Speaker 1: It is Ryan. Hilarious emailed us. We talked to him.

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Speaker 1: He told us about your date. He said he really

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Speaker 1: liked you a lot, but he doesn't know why you're

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Speaker 1: ghosting him, and would you mind telling us?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I feel really awkward about this. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is the same space.

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Speaker 5: Okay. I mean I thought he was great. We had

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Speaker 5: a great time. It was very sparky. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how much he told you, But so I'm

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Speaker 5: recently divorced and we were having a great night. And

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Speaker 5: I guess what, I'm honest, like, I got on Instagram

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Speaker 5: picture of my ex with his new girlfriend. Oh, and

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Speaker 5: of wrecked the night. It kind of just made me realize, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: maybe I'm not as ready as I thought I was.

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Speaker 5: I should have handled those very differently, but I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of new at this and thought run away.

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Speaker 4: Your instincts are to run. I mean, yeah, that's hard.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot to process all at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I feel bad. He seems like a nice guy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we really did hit it off.

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Speaker 1: So you're ghosting him because you saw a picture of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm ghosting because I think I'm like,

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Speaker 5: oh god, am I actually ready to be jumping back

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, whether you're ready or not. I think those

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Speaker 1: No, like, jobble, don't you feel that way? No, I

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Speaker 1: they've moved on.

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Speaker 4: Well, I understand and I feel the same way. But

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying is maybe that doesn't mean you're not ready,

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Speaker 4: It's just that you needed to rip the band aid off.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, maybe, I mean the phano was taken

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Speaker 1: Okay, it wasn't fair Ryan. Well you can say that

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Speaker 1: to Ryan if you want to, because he's actually on

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Speaker 1: the phone listening and wants.

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Speaker 3: To talk to you embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, I uh, I don't care. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: totally get it that you were you were caught off guard,

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Speaker 2: and uh, I don't think it.

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Speaker 3: Ruined the night at all. I'm I'm relieved.

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Speaker 5: Frankly, I'm sorry that was not the most mature way

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I mean, I I totally I understand where

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, if we.

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Speaker 2: If we were able to like hang out again, like

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Speaker 2: you you'd be welcome to, you know, talk about this

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Speaker 2: type of stuff, like we can totally talk it out

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Speaker 2: really well.

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Speaker 1: Ella, would you like to go out with Ryan again

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Speaker 1: on another date. We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I'd love to.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, but congratulations, you got another date.

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Speaker 5: Yay.

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Speaker 3: We can still do the bike ride and then we'll

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Speaker 3: we'll we'll go to another.

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Speaker 1: Restaurant or not. Jubele's first Date follow up