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Speaker 1: Is that time of week. My name is Bernie Fraddle.

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Speaker 1: We are come to you live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio studios here in Las Vegas. We'll take you up

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Speaker 1: to three am Pacific, six am Eastern and Absolute jam

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Speaker 1: Pack Show. This is a very notable weekend, and I

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Speaker 1: will explain why in a second. But we've got to

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Speaker 1: get to some college football, some NFL of course, the

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Speaker 1: minn our three raucous topics tonight. Look forward to hearing

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Speaker 1: from you on that great guest in NFL guessed at

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Speaker 1: about twenty minutes, and of course in the final hour

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Speaker 1: brand new fool and what my name? Plenty of high

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Speaker 1: jinks and of course we'll look forward to your calls

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Speaker 1: about an hour from now at eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 1: nine six six three sixty nine. But as I said,

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Speaker 1: this is a very notable weekend. Why this is the

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Speaker 1: last weekend until mid February where there's no football now

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Speaker 1: work with me. The Hall of Fame game is five

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Speaker 1: days away. It's next Thursday night Detroit and the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: And there's technically not football games next weekend, but they

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Speaker 1: are the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies and Thursdays kind

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Speaker 1: where I'm going with that. So starting next weekend, here

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Speaker 1: of tranquility, swimming in the sea of all kinds of football.

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Speaker 1: By the way, just twenty six days until your first

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Speaker 1: college football game. There's a slate. There are four games Saturday,

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Speaker 1: well after they've been nine hours to night, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: dive into heavily. There are five very prominent storylines that

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you will dominate college football at least the

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Speaker 1: first month and could all year, and I'm gonna dive

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Speaker 1: into all of them. I'll give you a little teas

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Speaker 1: we have to do with arch Manning out of the

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Speaker 1: you know, no for the Wicked. He goes to Ohio

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Speaker 1: State to make his debut as a starter. Well, he

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Speaker 1: started some games before, but they've handed they've handed to

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Speaker 1: the keys of the car now all right, and the

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Speaker 1: know people who think they can repeat. Folks in Michigan

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Speaker 1: don't even consider their championship legitimate because they lost to Michigan.

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Speaker 1: You know, how that goes. How about Georgia and Alabama.

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Speaker 1: You know, every single season since twenty fourteen, either Alabama

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Speaker 1: played against each other three times in those eleven years,

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Speaker 1: but both seasons for both ended very disappointing. Last year.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the outlooks for Georgia Alabama

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Speaker 1: and their situations and then their post Travis Center, Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 1: that for a little later. And then finally, mister Belichick

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Speaker 1: third NFL team. Folks I know and trust and the

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Speaker 1: Betty markets don't have a hell of a lot of

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Speaker 1: material for later. We're gonna we're gonna get to all

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Speaker 1: of it. I just want to get something off my

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Speaker 1: chest here because, uh, I don't know, I might be

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Speaker 1: the only human being that actually will defend Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: It's become fashionable to beat him like a rented mule

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Speaker 1: or like Bob Barker in the original you know, Happy Gilmore. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you want a piec of me? I want the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: The price is wrong, Beyonce. All right, well, Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: is the favorite, you know, whipping Boy. Fine you you

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Speaker 1: you get your own ten point one billion dollar franchise.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I know they haven't won the damn things

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Speaker 1: going with this. There's either real outrage or fake outrage,

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Speaker 1: depending on how you really feel. And Jerry's running his

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Speaker 1: old playbook, and this time the protagonist is Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 1: Let me just add some inflection here. Why who knows?

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Speaker 1: Why does Jerry do this? Maybe he's afraid if he

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Speaker 1: just wants to hold onto his money until the last second,

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Speaker 1: The latest culprit Michael Parsons twenty six year old defensive whiz.

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Speaker 1: I like Michael Parsons a lot. He's worth every penny.

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Speaker 1: But he, like others, are waiting. He's still waiting for

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Speaker 1: last week he exaggerated parsons very minimal injury history. And yes,

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Speaker 1: Micah's rookie contract runs out after this season. If you've

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Speaker 1: right now, how about it all started in September nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three. I remember this very well. Dallas was coming

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Speaker 1: They had beaten Buffalo seven months eight months earlier, and

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Speaker 1: without Emmett Smith who went on to become a Hall

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Speaker 1: basically acknowledged the reporters quote, well, I guess the leverage

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Speaker 1: pendulum has swung because of the loss. Jones gave Smith

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Speaker 1: more than Thomas made from the Bills, and Dallas went

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Speaker 1: on to beat Buffalo in the Super Bowl five months later,

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Speaker 1: went on to win another Super Bowl two years after that.

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Speaker 1: But Jerry developed a body at work after that. This

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Speaker 1: turned out to be a very familiar pattern. Fast forward

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Speaker 1: a few decades. All of a sudden, Jerry Jones hadn't

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Speaker 1: forgotten the old tricks. Twenty six years later, July twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott held out. He said, quote, you don't have

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Speaker 1: to have a rushing champion to win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said, And Ezekiel Elliott he was the second culprit.

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Speaker 1: But what did Jerry finally do? He gave Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 1: the largest running back contract in league history. And where

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Speaker 1: did that get Jerry? Yeah, I know, I know, You're

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Speaker 1: paid pseudonymic Four years later, August to twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said, quote, you got to put that one

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Speaker 1: He was talking about All Pro guard Zach Martin, and

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin said, hell, I'll sit out too. Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: said at the time, and this is easily researched, that

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Speaker 1: he needed to preserve money to eventually pay wait for it,

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, I don't know if anybody's reminded Jerry of

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Speaker 1: Jerry also caved into Zach Martin's demands three for three

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Speaker 1: Abbott Smith, Ezekiel Elliott, Elliott, Zach Martin not to be outdone.

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Speaker 1: Just a year ago now, when he was talking about

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Speaker 1: a certain receiver, Jerry says, I don't quote, I don't

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Speaker 1: have any urgency to get it done. While Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 1: In tweet for him. Jerry then later made Ceede Lamb

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Speaker 1: the second highest paid wide receiver in the league. Now,

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Speaker 1: Jerry isn't always necessarily inflammatory or hostile toward his stars,

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Speaker 1: because I haven't been able to find any flippant remarks

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Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott last year as the side seemingly quietly

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Speaker 1: negotiated their mega deal and the public standofs between Jones

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Speaker 1: and people like Emma Smith and Ezekiel Elliott and Zach

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Speaker 1: Martin at Ceedee Lamb were fleeting and they ended up

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Speaker 1: being pointless. Jerry Jones, he is a capitalist. He's a

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Speaker 1: wildcat oil guy who does things his way. He's eighty

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Speaker 1: two years old. He's trade to squeeze every bit, every

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Speaker 1: Whatever the hell is the metaphor is? You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say that he can't. He's also a

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Speaker 1: And the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.

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Speaker 1: You have to care. People seem to care about this guy,

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Speaker 1: and I think on some level maybe Jerry Jones takes

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Speaker 1: can he just not help himself? I don't know. He's

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Speaker 1: doing with you or me. There's no question Jerry Lew's football.

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Speaker 1: He played out on Arkansas team that won a national championship.

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Speaker 1: He's owned the most prominent NFL franchise now for what

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Speaker 1: thirty five years. He fired Tom Larny, which turned out

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Speaker 1: contracts now. In his business life, certainly from the oil

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Speaker 1: Hate him all you want. You trade the haters want

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one deal he won. He bought the

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Speaker 1: worth over ten billion now, now I get it. Recently,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been winning when it comes to the deals

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Speaker 1: with top players, because after Prescott eventually became the highest

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, you haven't been paying attention. Jones isn't about

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Speaker 1: pr strategy. I don't know. He's having fun. The holdouts

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Speaker 1: fake outrage. It really does. And I haven't heard all

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Speaker 1: think he's having fun. I'm having fun watching the theater again,

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Speaker 1: and that will conclude this evening's information about Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, He's eighty two years old

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Speaker 1: and he's unlikely to change. So I don't know who

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Speaker 4: Good evening, Bernie.

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Speaker 1: How is it going good? Buddy? And I think we're

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Speaker 4: Anyone who has a strong opinion on this is just

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Speaker 1: We're talking with Jason Hirsharn, been on my show many times.

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Speaker 1: He's a gifted writer, NFL College Football, Espionation, Sports Illustrated creator,

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Speaker 1: the Leap co founder, which is the Packers newsletter. Let's

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Speaker 1: Spot On, I get the feeling you're going to see

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Speaker 4: very good point. And I don't think Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 4: against using play action, but there's a definitely the way

432
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Speaker 4: that Aaron Rodgers historically like to use play action and

433
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Speaker 4: the way that the Steelers do. The Steelers want that

434
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Speaker 4: quarterback under center and then turning his back to the

435
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Speaker 4: defense for those play action plays, and Aaron Rodgers really

436
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Speaker 4: doesn't like having his back turn back to defense at

437
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Speaker 4: any point in time, and really never has. Like there

438
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Speaker 4: were years where he was made to do it and

439
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Speaker 4: it was successful, but just wasn't something that he ever

440
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Speaker 4: really liked. And I wonder how much of their office

441
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Speaker 4: is going to be tailor to Aaron rodgers preference in

442
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Speaker 4: that regard, Like there are a lot of play action

443
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Speaker 4: concepts that you can run out of pistol instead of

444
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Speaker 4: under center or out of shotgun under center. It changes

445
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Speaker 4: the effectiveness of those plays, but it might make Rogers

446
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Speaker 4: a little more comfortable with him. Is that a compromise

447
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Speaker 4: they're willing to make? Again, that's part of that process

448
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Speaker 4: where we were just talking about if the Steelers can

449
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Speaker 4: find a happy meeting with Rogers, I think it can,

450
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Speaker 4: then certain expectations work, but it might just see awkward

451
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Speaker 4: because the Steelers are definitely going to have to bend

452
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Speaker 4: more to Rogers than they did with Russell Wilson justin

453
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Speaker 4: fields last year, and I don't know how much that's

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Speaker 4: going to work for them. If Aaron Rodgers look the

455
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Speaker 4: say he getting dinged up, and you know he's able

456
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Speaker 4: to play, but he's not able to play as well

457
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Speaker 4: as he would when he was outhy. If that happens

458
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Speaker 4: and you have all this other stuff moving around like

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Speaker 4: it could go south very quickly. I just don't know

460
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Speaker 4: at this point. There's so many questions with everything going

461
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Speaker 4: on in the situation that, like we were talking about

462
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Speaker 4: with the Bears and Caleb Boys, I.

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Speaker 6: Think we just wait and see how that flies out.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing. You know, it's got a pretty good receiver

465
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Speaker 1: corp with DK Metcalf, Calvin Austin and Robert Woods and

466
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Speaker 1: Pat Firemouth. Is no slatch it tight end. You just

467
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Speaker 1: may see a lot of match protect sets, three step drops,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, and you know, get the ball out quick

469
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Speaker 1: and let your receivers catch the ball and run. You

470
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Speaker 1: may see that. I think they may to simplify it,

471
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Speaker 1: but you're right. Everything you said is right, and there

472
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Speaker 1: are just simply a lot of unknowns with the Bears

473
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Speaker 1: and the Jets and Pittsburgh. So now I'm going to

474
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Speaker 1: get to the team that really has me scratching my

475
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Speaker 1: head because I have never and I don't think i'll

476
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Speaker 1: ever live to see today where a team keeps four

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and a fifty three man roster. So in the

478
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns depth chart, no doubt in my mind is

479
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Speaker 1: Flacco one pick at two, and I know it's Dylan

480
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Speaker 1: Gabriel three and shed her for who I have my opinions,

481
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Speaker 1: but I don't want to lead to witness who's the

482
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Speaker 1: odd man out.

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Speaker 4: So I do think there is a scenario or the

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Speaker 4: key four quarterbacks, but you are right, it is not

485
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Speaker 4: something that's common. And basically the years where we've seen

486
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Speaker 4: a team keep four quarterback it was almost universally because

487
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Speaker 4: they didn't have a quarterback they like.

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Speaker 7: The only exception that I.

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Speaker 4: Could find over the last about like twenty five plus

490
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Speaker 4: years or maybe twenty six years, was that first year

491
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Speaker 4: that Tom Produce with the Patriots and they kept him

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Speaker 4: as a fourth quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah, I know the whole story. Yeah, it's yes,

494
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Speaker 1: I know the whole story. Cold yeh, go go ahead.

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Speaker 4: But that the anomveloe, right, Like in most cases, if

496
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Speaker 4: you're keeping even three quarterbacks on the fifty three man roster,

497
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Speaker 4: it's usually a sign that there's some questions about the starter. Now,

498
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Speaker 4: you said that you expected to be Joe Flacco. I

499
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Speaker 4: think you're probably right. I would say the smart money

500
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Speaker 4: right now is not either Flacco or Kenny Piggott to

501
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Speaker 4: be the starting quarterback in Week one, and the fact

502
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Speaker 4: they have four quarterbacks is going to make it very

503
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Speaker 4: difficult to manage the rest in practice. And also the

504
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Speaker 4: snaps only gets the preseason games, and I don't know

505
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Speaker 4: how many stats they really need to give Joe Flacco

506
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Speaker 4: this morning his career, like you kind of know what

507
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Speaker 4: he's going to be. I imagine that over the course

508
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Speaker 4: of the preseason they're going to give a few more

509
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Speaker 4: to Picket to see what he can do with that offense,

510
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Speaker 4: and then especially with those rookies. But at some point

511
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Speaker 4: they are going to have to take some of those

512
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Speaker 4: stats away from the guys in the back of the

513
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Speaker 4: depth chart even ify douys a thing like, it's just

514
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Speaker 4: the way that you have to manage things to prepare

515
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Speaker 4: for the regular season. Now, I don't think that they

516
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Speaker 4: can either one of those rookies that expect that player

517
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Speaker 4: then up back on their practice squad.

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Speaker 7: It's at a third round pick.

519
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Speaker 8: On Dylan Gabriel.

520
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Speaker 4: It's really hard, not possible, but really hard to cut

521
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Speaker 4: a third round pick going into their rookie year Ansdeorg

522
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Speaker 4: Sanders and something they only shut a fifth round pick on.

523
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Speaker 4: But you have to feel like if you let him

524
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Speaker 4: go into the waiver wire, another team is going to

525
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Speaker 4: claim in, so you have to be very careful there.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I think they might end up keeping four.

527
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Speaker 4: But this is a situation where I expect them to

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Speaker 4: go through at least two certain quarterbacks throughout the season.

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Speaker 4: More likely three and four is absolutely on the table.

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Speaker 4: That is just the situation they find themselves then going

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Speaker 4: into twenty twenty five, with everything that's going on in

532
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Speaker 4: that quarterback room over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: This is why I love having you, Jason. It's an

534
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Speaker 1: excellent reference going back to two thousand Tom Brady's rookie season,

535
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Speaker 1: the Pats kept Drew Bledsoe, John Freeze, Michael Bishop, and

536
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. And there were eight coaches in the room

537
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Speaker 1: that voted whether or not to keep Brady, and seven

538
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Speaker 1: voted no, and the only yes vote was Bill Belichick

539
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Speaker 1: because it was foresight and they kept him. He only

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Speaker 1: played one game. It's a game I covered. It was

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Speaker 1: at the Silverdome. The Pats lost thirty four to nine

542
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Speaker 1: to the Lions that night, and Brady completed one pass,

543
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Speaker 1: one pass for like six yards. The fourth quarterback on

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Speaker 1: this JEP chart, though, was Shudor Sanders. Why do not

545
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Speaker 1: really necessarily believe is a major league quarterback? It's not

546
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Speaker 1: buying the hype. You're right, I believe Flacco will start

547
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Speaker 1: Kenny Picktt. People can make fun of him all they want,

548
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Speaker 1: but he's fifteen and ten is a starter, so at

549
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Speaker 1: least he has twenty five starts as a professional as

550
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Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. I see more in Dylan Gabriel than

551
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Speaker 1: I think people give him credit for. I saw him

552
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Speaker 1: pick apart in Michigan and have great games at Oklahoma

553
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: and Oregon in bigger stages than Shodor Sanders has. So

554
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to disavow the fact that You're right,

555
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: they make key for but the fourth one this time

556
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Speaker 1: is Shodor Sanders and not Tom Brady.

557
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really hard to see Eddie quarterback. It's becoming

558
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Speaker 4: Tom Brady let alone, someone who is coming in with

559
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: a very different set of expectations than Tom Brady did

560
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: in two thousand. But it's more than this too, Right,

561
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: like the Patriots when Tom Brady first joined then had

562
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Speaker 4: fairly recently been to the Super Bowl. I think it

563
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Speaker 4: had been like four years earlier.

564
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Speaker 9: There saw a.

565
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Speaker 4: Lot of pieces from that team there, and this Brown

566
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Speaker 4: seam has had success under Kevin Stefanski, but we're talking

567
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: about a very different looking roster and this might be

568
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Speaker 4: the final year the Kevin Stefanski and that general manager

569
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Speaker 4: in that front office. And guess if things are not successful,

570
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Speaker 4: so that could lead to them scrambling throughout the year

571
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Speaker 4: to find solutions. If they, let's say, start with Blacko

572
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Speaker 4: and it doesn't go well, how quickly do they pull

573
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Speaker 4: the cord on him and go to Pickett? And then

574
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Speaker 4: if that doesn't work, which I don't know how that

575
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Speaker 4: will go because I don't know that we truly have

576
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Speaker 4: a have a real idea what Kenny Pickett is in

577
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Speaker 4: the NFL given the situations that he has been in

578
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Speaker 4: so far, Let's say that happens. So that doesn't go well.

579
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Speaker 4: Now you're on to the rookies and you're talking about real,

580
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: real hot seat situations at that point, not just for

581
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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks before everybody in that organization. So that's situation

582
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Speaker 4: I expect to evolve repeatedly over the course of the

583
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 1: Well, I do I have heard that Jimmy Haslim absolutely

585
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Speaker 1: loves arch Manning, and you may see. I don't know

586
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Speaker 1: if he'll be a Cleveland Brown in twenty twenty six,

587
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Speaker 1: but this whole deal in Cleveland may be a one

588
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Speaker 1: year deal as well. Let me finish up Jason with

589
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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders and Pete Carroll. I would have

590
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Speaker 1: just asked you your general outlook, what your thoughts are.

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Speaker 1: I am not confident the Raiders will win more than

592
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Speaker 1: six or seven games. But now this Christian Wilkins situation

593
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Speaker 1: has emerged, can you shed some light on that.

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Speaker 4: It's a little strange, right, Like, this is not the

595
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Speaker 4: first time a high profile free agent has flamed out

596
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Speaker 4: with a team after one season, but this is the

597
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Speaker 4: situation where it seemed even a few weeks ago that

598
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Speaker 4: Christian Wilkins was not healthy, that he might miss the

599
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Speaker 4: start of the regular seasons, but he was still going

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Speaker 4: to be a part of the twenty twenty five Raiders.

601
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Speaker 4: Now comes out that the team and the players disagreed

602
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Speaker 4: on what they needed to do to rehab his injury,

603
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Speaker 4: his foot injury, and that ultimately led to the disagreement,

604
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Speaker 4: led to the disillusion of the contract, and ultimately the

605
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: grievance has been filed about his release because the Raiders

606
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Speaker 4: voided all the remaining guarantees in his contract.

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Speaker 10: So I actually don't know.

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Speaker 4: How it's going to play out, not because of the

609
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Speaker 4: Wilkins component or the Raiders component, because that grievance was

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Speaker 4: filed with the NFLPA, And if your listeners is paying attention,

611
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: that organization is going through their own firestorm right now.

612
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Speaker 4: So there were all these moving pieces involved. But as

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Speaker 4: for Wilkins, I don't think that we're going to see

614
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Speaker 4: him at some point this year. You had Mike Rabel

615
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Speaker 4: speaking earlier this weekend talking about that as someone that

616
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Speaker 4: they would at least talk about bringing out of That

617
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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that he's healthy enough. The player that would

618
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Speaker 4: clear a physical. But if they're talking about it, that

619
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Speaker 4: seems to provide some indication of where other teams believe

620
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Speaker 4: he is in the recovery process and to be someone

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Speaker 4: who other teams believe is going to be able to

622
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Speaker 4: play in the not terribly distant future. That says a

623
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Speaker 4: lot about what the waiters thought, right Like, this is

624
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Speaker 4: a player who may have been ready to contribute at

625
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Speaker 4: some point, maybe within the first months to two months

626
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Speaker 4: of the season, but they felt like was not worth

627
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Speaker 4: keeping around, at least at the price they were going

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Speaker 4: to have to pay. They felt they could get out

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Speaker 4: of that contract save that money. And I can understand

630
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Speaker 4: what they wanted to do that if that avenue is

631
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Speaker 4: really available to them, because they gave a lot of

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Speaker 4: money to Christian Wilkins at a time where they didn't

633
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Speaker 4: really have the runway to compete for anything of value,

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Speaker 4: right like they could have maybe if everything had broken

635
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Speaker 4: right for them in twenty twenty four, stuck in the

636
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Speaker 4: playoffs and that was not a team that anyone expected

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Speaker 4: with the talent that they had, especially a quarterback, to

638
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Speaker 4: compete for a Super Bowl. Well, I think they kind

639
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Speaker 4: of accepted that. That's where they are now, and maybe

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Speaker 4: getting out of the Wilkins contract if they had a

641
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Speaker 4: real reason or real excuse to get.

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Speaker 2: Out of it.

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Speaker 4: Out of those guarantees had been the best financial avenue

644
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Speaker 4: for them because it frees up funds again if the

645
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: grievance goes their way to use them players, not necessarily

646
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Speaker 4: this year, but in the future, because they don't have

647
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Speaker 4: many players on that roster that you can say our

648
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: core pieces. They have Max Crosby just gave him a

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Speaker 4: new deal, so obviously they see him being there for

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Speaker 4: a little while at least. But you have Geno Smith, who,

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Speaker 4: even though they traded for and extended, he is going

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Speaker 4: to be thirty five this season. You don't know how

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Speaker 4: long that runway really is just given his age. So

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Speaker 4: maybe be looking at a new quarterback next year or

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Speaker 4: soon thereafter. If that's not the case, and you're talking

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Speaker 4: about a new centerpiece of the offense with Aston Jens

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Speaker 4: presumably there for support, and then a defense that again

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Speaker 4: doesn't have a ton of core pieces outside of Max Crosby.

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Speaker 4: The entire identity of that roster is going to shift

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Speaker 4: in whole likelihood within the next twelve months. And getting

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Speaker 4: the money back to Christian Wilkins. You know, as unsavory

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Speaker 4: as the process may be, could be the thing that

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Speaker 4: helps them jump start that rebuilding process.

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Speaker 1: Jason, Great, I know it'll be a busy yer for you.

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Speaker 9: Have fun, pal well, I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 1: Bernie, Take care always. That's Jason Hrshorn SB Nation Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated Award winning NFL College football writer. Clearly you can

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Speaker 1: see he has his finger on the pulse. We are

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Speaker 1: eighteen minutes away from the midnight hour here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Get your fingers limbered up. Eight seven seven nine nine

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Speaker 1: on Fox. We'll set the topics on the table. As

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Speaker 1: Lee Hacksaw Hamilton once said, I'm Bernie Fraddle. Will come

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Speaker 1: into your life from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 1: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on

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Speaker 1: the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come to your

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Speaker 1: live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Just

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Speaker 1: getting started. We'll take after three am Pacific, six am Eastern,

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Speaker 1: and in eleven minutes check that ten minutes. It is

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Speaker 1: the midnight hour. Here in Las Vegas, it's midnight literally

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Speaker 1: where I live, perhaps where you live as well, but

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Speaker 1: figuratively the mid that hour means you get the last word.

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Speaker 1: These are our three topics tonight. Well, it turns out

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Speaker 1: the NFL is cracking down on players and team employees

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Speaker 1: that look to make some extra cash by selling their

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl tickets. One hundred players, two dozen club employees,

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Speaker 1: and many more are being fined and chastised. Here's my

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Speaker 1: question to you. Where are you weighing on this. Is

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Speaker 1: it like, well, they got the tickets, they can do

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Speaker 1: what they want with them, or you know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a privilege to be able to get this. Do

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Speaker 1: you really need the extra money if you're an NFL player,

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Speaker 1: it's a bad form. I don't know. If you've ever

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Speaker 1: bought something for somebody and it was regifted, how do

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Speaker 1: you feel about that? If you got Super Bowl tickets

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Speaker 1: and you're an NFL player again, I guess take sides.

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Speaker 1: Are you on the player's side saying it's their business,

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Speaker 1: it's their property, they can do what they want with

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Speaker 1: it if you don't like it too bad, kick rocks?

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Speaker 1: Or is it a situation where you know discretion is

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Speaker 1: the better part of valor. Could you maybe use a

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Speaker 1: little bit better judgment and not do this? And I

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Speaker 1: think this is a situation. Players are going to be

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Speaker 1: fined one and a half what they paid for their tickets,

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Speaker 1: they won't be able to buy tickets for the next

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowls unless they're playing in them, and club

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Speaker 1: employees are going to be fined even more. So it's

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Speaker 1: just not a good look. That's my take. But I

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Speaker 1: don't have a hard opinion, but a lot of people do,

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Speaker 1: and I want to hear yours because my callers are phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty three sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: So the second topic, Look, I wasn't here this last week,

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Speaker 1: but this is a story that's just getting started. It's not,

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Speaker 1: you know, fresh, it's fresh, it's maybe a few days old.

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Speaker 1: But where am I going with this?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 1: The WNBA All Star Game is supposed to be a celebration,

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Speaker 1: a showcase of whatever. This league says they have star power,

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Speaker 1: you tell me athleticism, they say they have a growing reach,

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Speaker 1: but instead, once again, they're stuck on stupid. Everybody's got

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Speaker 1: to play Mickey the Duntz and they spark one of

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Speaker 1: the most contentions online debates the league has ever faced.

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Speaker 1: Just saw the t shirts. These are the facts, man.

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Speaker 1: The WNBA has never turned to profit in their twenty

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Speaker 1: nine year history. They've lost an estimated one point five

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Speaker 1: billion since their inception in nineteen ninety seven. Their annual

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Speaker 1: losses are around ten million for most of its existence,

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Speaker 1: but that jumped to fifty million in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Despite the revenue's growing, the league has nothing but financial

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Speaker 1: struggles and the players want more for playing forty games

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Speaker 1: in a game very few people watch. I'm not denigrating it.

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Speaker 1: They deserve to be here, I guess as long as

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Speaker 1: Richmond want to bail them out. And I know they

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Speaker 1: got this upcoming two point two million media deal, dollar

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Speaker 1: media deal, but the you know, you tell me you

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Speaker 1: couldn't make a case bird. Get's wrong with you? Man?

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Speaker 1: They deserve to be paid. Okay, where somebody's supposed to

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Speaker 1: come from? Just tell me or no, this is wrong. Okay.

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Speaker 1: There's one thing that's clear. I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: fans watch games, but apparently they seem to have watched

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Speaker 1: the books. And the truth of the matter is there's

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Speaker 1: a growing frustration between the real financial sustainability of whatever

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Speaker 1: the hell the NBA is, and the perceived entitlement of

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Speaker 1: these players who seem to be very angry. This is

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Speaker 1: not funny, but let's face it, there's real significant questions

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Speaker 1: about even the increasing revenues which are expected to exceed

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Speaker 1: I think next year a billion, the WNBA is still

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Speaker 1: unlikely to break even because they've got higher expenses. Now,

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Speaker 1: so who's going to make these people hold for the

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Speaker 1: one point five billion they're out before they get more? Finally,

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Speaker 1: remembering ho Cogan a very complex individual, you know his

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Speaker 1: background will get into it. So how do you feel

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Speaker 1: about the NFL players selling their tickets? Who sat do

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Speaker 1: you on?

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Speaker 2: On the end?

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Speaker 1: W she'd checked that the WNBA? You know where I'm

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Speaker 1: going with this, and give me your thoughts on hul Cogan?

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Speaker 1: How do you remember Haul Cogan? Eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 1: nine six six three six nine eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 1: nine one Fox dial them up, let's hear it from you.

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Speaker 1: It's the men that hour on the Bernie fraddle Show

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Well that's right, you heard the man.

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Speaker 1: Bernie Fraddles show keeps rolling right along. My name is

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Speaker 1: Bernie Frowner. We are come to your line from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports radio compound here in La Vegas. Take it

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Speaker 1: to three m Pacific, six am Eastern. We are just

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Speaker 1: getting started, and yes, I repeat. The WNBA has never

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Speaker 1: turned to profit in their twenty nine year history. They've

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Speaker 1: lost about a billion and a half since their inception

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven. Their annual losses are north of

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Speaker 1: ten million every year, fifty million last year. Yet they

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Speaker 1: turned the All Star Game, which is supposed to be

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Speaker 1: a celebration, into a pitching match with some stupid T shirts.

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Speaker 1: You know where I'm going with that? Make your case

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Speaker 1: they deserve a raise? How why you explain? All right?

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Speaker 1: The NFL players get tickets every year, they buy them

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, and some folks turned around, about

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Speaker 1: one hundred of them, man, some PLUB employees, and sold them.

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Speaker 1: Are you on their side? Is it their ticket to

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Speaker 1: do what they want their property? Or is it like

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Speaker 1: regifting something? Is it it's a bad look for me

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Speaker 1: to see this. You may have a different thought and

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Speaker 1: give me your thoughts on remembering Halcog and a very

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Speaker 1: complex individual. It's right, It's time for the Midnight Hour

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Speaker 1: eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven

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Speaker 1: ninety six six three. Because now we go out to

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Speaker 1: the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts and welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Jim.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Jim, where you been, buddy?

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Speaker 2: I was in Brazil for a month?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Good for you, Good for you hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the barbecue and kashasser and on the beach.

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Speaker 1: You know, all right, let's hear it from you.

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Speaker 2: That's all right. Here's here's the deal to start with

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Speaker 2: about the ticket who kids, Let them do what they

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Speaker 2: want with the tickets they get them. It's it's like

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Speaker 2: it's like your company giving you a bonus for working,

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Speaker 2: but they're going to tell you how to spend it.

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Speaker 11: You know, just let it go.

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Speaker 2: What they got other things to worry about. Just let

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Speaker 2: them do what they want with the tickets. But crying it,

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Speaker 2: there's there's you know, all right, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, and you think with the tickets, I've been a

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Speaker 1: friend way four times. If you Jim, uh, he said, Brini,

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you two tickets behind ho play tonight. Oh thanks, Jim,

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Speaker 1: and I take them. And then you found out I

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Speaker 1: sold them. How would you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, what's the difference. You couldn't go with something like that.

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Speaker 1: You said, Okay, I don't want to believe different reasons.

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Speaker 1: That's the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, let them crash and burn.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to resolve it. Do you

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Speaker 2: mean to tell me they're holding up with more money

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Speaker 2: and everything. After all that's been going on. They got

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Speaker 2: rid of the commissioner, they got rid of a four

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Speaker 2: or five repor rest of his collusion, letting Caitlin Clock

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Speaker 2: get killed, and then they want more money. You gotta

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Speaker 2: be kidding me. That's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I dare them to walk out. I dare them, double

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Speaker 1: triple dog dare them from Christmas story, you know, back

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Speaker 1: and I think it was oh one when Davis deurned

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Speaker 1: with your missioner the w NBA threatened to walk out.

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Speaker 1: He says, fine, don't come back. He would have shut

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Speaker 1: the league down on that. Shut him up right there.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts on hul Copan, you.

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Speaker 2: Know Hall colg and I was a kid like when

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Speaker 2: he came through.

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Speaker 9: I mean he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a once in a lifetime phenomenon, you know,

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Speaker 2: and you know, God bless him. He did a lot

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Speaker 2: for the country, did a lot, you know, for children

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 9: I mean it's probad of.

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Speaker 2: Like might have been crazy but whose private life isn't crazy?

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 2: But as far as leaving the world a better place

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Speaker 2: since he's been here, I got to tip my hat to.

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Speaker 1: Him, you know, Jim Beckham the saddle, welcome back Stateside.

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Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, man. We'll see you next

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Speaker 1: week hopefully. Emit an Olympia or didn't say Washington? Or

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Speaker 1: when I'm just kidding, Washington? How's it going, Emmitt?

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Speaker 5: No, A couple of people say Washington, so.

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Speaker 1: I hate that when they do. That's stupid. I don't

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Speaker 1: see I know, right, I don't go ahead.

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Speaker 13: It's so weird Washington.

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Speaker 5: Washington's a perfect name for it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's rainy all the time.

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Speaker 9: It makes sense.

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Speaker 11: But I'll start with the NFL.

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, you were saying that you don't really care,

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Speaker 5: and I kind of agree in a way because I

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Speaker 5: understand both sides of the matter.

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Speaker 13: It's okay.

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Speaker 5: First off, you get these tickets and you sell them.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, make a little bit of money off it.

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Speaker 11: Why not?

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Speaker 5: That's what like me is thinking. Who doesn't have like

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Speaker 5: a five million dollar contract or whatever they have.

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Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing. It because I've been to

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Speaker 1: three Super Bowls in my life? Who's a fan? Only

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Speaker 1: covered one O six in Detroit, seale in Pittsburgh. And

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00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: it's a two week convention by the NFL. Yeah, with

864
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: a game at the end. It's a spectac it's a spectacle.

865
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: It's a glorious event. It's all what I don't know,

866
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: I said, I don't care. I did say that. What

867
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm on the side of the NFL thinking this is

868
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: a bad look. Would you continue on?

869
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then that's kind of where I go to

870
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: my next point with it is, I mean, these guys

871
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 5: are making a crap ton of money, dude. Like it's

872
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 5: something where it's like you don't need the extra money,

873
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 5: like you're getting paid a big salary, so just either

874
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 5: go or like you don't give it to your family

875
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 5: for free. I think the NFL would much rather be, Oh,

876
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 5: I gave this to my cousin John for free and

877
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 5: you went and enjoyed the game.

878
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 9: I think they much rather have that.

879
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: So on the WNBA, now, obviously I understand where they're

880
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 5: coming from because they have the most attention they've had

881
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 5: on this league and thirty five plus years or whatever

882
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: it is. But you come down to the business side,

883
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 5: of it, Bernie, Obviously it's not going to work out.

884
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: When you mentioned it, they.

885
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: Haven't made a profit and they're basically existence. They owe

886
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 5: the NBA all this money and it's just not going

887
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 5: to happen. I mean, yeah, the media deals there, but

888
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 5: I think there's bigger things for the WIA to focus on.

889
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: I mean, Jim kind of said it perfectly in the

890
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 5: last call where it's like they had all these issues

891
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: with the rest. They don't know how to keep Caitlyn

892
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 5: Clark away from the publicity. Kind of like how the

893
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: NBA like they have all these superstars like s GA

894
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: and then get fouled and they protect the stars. Morzon,

895
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 5: I'm trying to say, and about whole.

896
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 13: Cogan, I don't really have too much on him very young.

897
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: I'm twenty one, so I didn't really grow up watching

898
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: him like a lot of the other people calling did.

899
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 5: But I think that he's an icon for the sport

900
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 5: of wrestling if he called a sport, and it sucks

901
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 5: that he had these things in his past, and obviously

902
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 5: the society where in now people are going to look

903
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 5: at it like okay, well we're going to look at

904
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 5: the bad things. So I think just focus on what

905
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 5: he did for wrestling because.

906
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: He was an icon.

907
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 5: Like the difference is like Kobe Bryant, like and I

908
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 5: love Kobe, but like there's allegations there no one brought

909
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: that up.

910
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 10: Like it gives Holp the same energy a little.

911
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 4: Bit like a couple a couple of weeks later if

912
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: you want to bring it up the.

913
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 5: Boat, well, but you got to think about it from

914
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 5: his family and all that, like it probably sucks for them,

915
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: and then they go on social media and here all

916
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 5: of this, you know, whole cogana s that's my that's

917
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: your dad or that's your grandpa, whoever it may be.

918
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bernie, Thanks Sammon, don't forget to teach your vitamins.

919
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Scott in Manhattan Beach, Welcome in. Are you a first

920
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: timer to the Bernie Frattle Show?

921
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 14: First time?

922
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: Probably?

923
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, great show man, I must say a long.

924
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: Time glad to have, Glad to have you. Fire away

925
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: in regards to.

926
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Speaker 14: The ticket, So Super Bowl twenty one at the Rose Bowl,

927
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 14: Denver versus the Giants. I'm a big time Redskins fan.

928
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 14: Out here, I'm walking around the Rose Bowl trying to

929
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 14: get a ticket to get into the game. The guy

930
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 14: comes up to me and says, hey, you're a Redskins fan.

931
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 14: I played for the Redskins. I played quarterback for the Redskins.

932
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 14: My name's Mark Rippin. I remember this really, Remember this

933
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 14: is nineteen eighty six. I hadn't no idea who Mark

934
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 14: Rippon was because the quarterback was Schrader and Williams. I'm

935
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 14: thinking this guy's a nut job. But he sow me

936
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 14: his ticket for face value seventy five dollars. So I'm

937
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 14: sitting in the Rose Bowl, unknowingly that I'm in the

938
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 14: Redskins section. Halftime comes. I think Denver was winning at

939
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 14: the halftime too, but remember correctly, and guy gets up.

940
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 14: It's Dexter Manley. He was walking up the aisle, you know,

941
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 14: like three rows ahead of me, and I'm morphin the

942
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 14: Yogi bearra and poor Dexter Manley unknowingly morph into Don

943
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 14: Laws and I'm jumping all over the poor guy because

944
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 14: Dexter Manley was my favorite player.

945
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: Memory hers Denver jumped out to me. Done nothing. Lead

946
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: in Washington want him. I think Timmy Smith scored like fast.

947
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 14: Time was a giant. This a year before the Giants

948
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 14: at the Rose Bot.

949
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: Eighty seven, the Giants won thirty nine to twenty. I

950
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: thought you said Redskins. I thought you said Redskins. Okay,

951
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm Redskins, Redskins fan.

952
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 14: The Redskins have lost the championship game the week before

953
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 14: the Super Bowl?

954
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Got you? Because the following year, You're right, don't

955
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: go ahead.

956
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm jumping all over Dexter Manley. He's about to

957
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 14: cold cock me, right, get off me, man, and then

958
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 14: he realizes I'm a Redskins fan.

959
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 6: So he's like, oh, man, dude, you're a Redskins fan.

960
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 14: Well, let me tell you something. We're going to be

961
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 14: in this game next year and we're gonna win it.

962
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 14: And next year Williams David Sandy.

963
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, by the way, the operative takeaway here is

964
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: that you were giving the ticket at face value. I

965
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: think it, you know, So all right, moving on your

966
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: thoughts on the w n B A and and their

967
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: quest for more money.

968
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 14: You can take Allen Iverson's rant on practice and insert

969
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 14: w n B A and where practice is so.

970
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 9: Good, that is so good as well.

971
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm sure you'd be glued to that double

972
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: header tomorrow that ESPN toalts every six minutes oh God

973
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: love him. Okay, thoughts on great great energy, Scott. Thoughts

974
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: on Hunk Hogan before we let you Go, Punk Hogan.

975
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 14: I saw him and it was either late eighties early

976
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 14: nineties at the old LA Sports Arena by the Coliseum.

977
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 14: They had some wrestling. I wasn't really big into wrestling,

978
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 14: but I went to this big event and Gene Hackman

979
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 14: was like one of the.

980
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 6: MC's during this amount.

981
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.

982
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 14: I forget who he fought, but but yeah, poor remember

983
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 14: him in the Rocky Dream movie.

984
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: You know, Oh my god. Sylvester Stallone talked about that

985
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: the other day. Broke Stallone's collarbone.

986
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, so this is all right.

987
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: Hey, don't be a stranger, Scott, great energy, great stuff. Man,

988
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: Andre and Massachusetts, welcome back in. I know you'll have uh,

989
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: you'll be able to wax fort on these subjects.

990
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 12: Bertie, how you doing, Thanks for taking the call.

991
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: Listen.

992
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 12: In terms of NFL players and selling the tickets, I

993
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 12: don't have an issue with it, particularly for these headlining events.

994
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 12: Once you've been there once or twice, you kind of

995
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 12: get a feel for it. You know, it's one thing

996
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 12: if it's your first time, you know, going Bud if

997
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 12: if you've been there a few times, Okay, okay, you know,

998
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 12: let me, let me give these tickets to somebody else.

999
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 12: Obviously you can leverage what they're what they're worth in

1000
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 12: the free market.

1001
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: All right. Maybe I'm just an old stiff on this.

1002
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just yeah, go fair enough,

1003
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: fair enough. I'm an open minded guy.

1004
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 12: Hell, And I think that players, particularly, you know, we

1005
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 12: look at them as these millionaires and they have all

1006
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 12: this money and so on, and they are wealthy compared

1007
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 12: to the averaging visual. But after you've been in the

1008
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 12: league for a while, you know, you're trying to find

1009
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 12: angles and make money just like everybody else. So they

1010
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 12: see an opportunity, particularly if it's a game that you know,

1011
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 12: it's a big game, you know, you know, ma homes

1012
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 12: versus hurts or whatever the case may be, people are

1013
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 12: willing to pay whatever you'll charge, go ahead and get

1014
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 12: that money. Specific to the w NBA, this kind of

1015
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 12: gets home for me because I'm a basketball person.

1016
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1017
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 12: Again, I go back to ninety seven when a WNBA

1018
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 12: came to fruition under the leadership of the late great

1019
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 12: David Stern. You know, the first championship Cynthia Cooper. Tina

1020
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 12: Thompson Houston comments, you know it, it's a big deal,

1021
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 12: And frankly, I take it personally. I think a lot

1022
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 12: of people in the basketball community feel this way. Me,

1023
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 12: you know, just a guy out here in the Commonwealth.

1024
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 12: But you go to the w NBA games, right, Kaitlyn

1025
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 12: Clark was here in Boston, Jalen Brown was in attendance.

1026
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 12: Right when when the Sparks playing Los Angeles, Lebron James

1027
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 12: is in attendance. Right, Kevin Durant's at these teams?

1028
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: Can you can you you're a thoughtful guy. Can you

1029
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: make any similance of a case to just find why

1030
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: they deserve more money at this juncture?

1031
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 12: No, Bernie, I can't. And my issue is with this

1032
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 12: drum beat and this constant, persistent messaging of the WNBA

1033
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 12: and sticking with this that pay us what you owe

1034
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 12: us and pay us our worth and so on and forth.

1035
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 12: You know, this isn't the nineteen seventies. We are not

1036
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 12: talking about Title nine. The year is twenty twenty five.

1037
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 12: The league has been in effect for thirty years. Everybody

1038
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 12: knows it hasn't made a profit. Everybody knows you're losing

1039
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 12: ten twenty thirty million dollars annually, adding up to a

1040
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 12: half a billion dollars. Now, listen, why I'm furious about

1041
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 12: this is because I in the NBA believe in this

1042
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 12: league and want to see the league do better. And

1043
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 12: they have this opportunity right now with a transcendent player

1044
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 12: in Caitlin Clark, to do better, and they are missing

1045
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 12: this opportunity. There. It's all this squabbling and infighting and

1046
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 12: bickering and jealousy and envy, and I'll just stop it

1047
00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 12: right there.

1048
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 9: What infuriates to me is.

1049
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 12: That the league itself can't get their ducks in a

1050
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 12: row and get behind this you know, this title way,

1051
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 12: this tsunami that starts with Caitlin Cluck. Listen, forget the

1052
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 12: that it's not you. NBA players had an issue with

1053
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 12: Michael Jordan's froze them out of the All Star Game.

1054
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 12: Did David Stern allow that to be the narrative or

1055
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 12: was it air Jordan?

1056
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 9: Was it the picture of him taking.

1057
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: Off the Well, there's a definite leadership issue on both sides.

1058
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: And Adam Silver all right, listen, I always love your calls.

1059
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: I want to get to everybody real quickly. Anything on

1060
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: Hulk Coogan.

1061
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 12: Listen, I'm an eighties baby, eighty two awesome eighties, So,

1062
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 12: Hulk Cogan, you know it means a lot, you know

1063
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 12: for the if you grew up in the n and so,

1064
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 12: so I'm the deep down awesome eighties. The things that

1065
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 12: he said relative to race, that's a part of his legacy.

1066
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 12: And no, there's no two ways about it. So he is,

1067
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 12: at the end of the day, a complicated man. That's

1068
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 12: what I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get from the benefit

1069
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 12: of doubt in terms of him being a complicated man.

1070
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 12: He means so much for eighties folks. That's why it's

1071
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 12: really hurtful.

1072
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: In terms of what he did.

1073
00:52:58,880 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 7: I'm not talking about policy.

1074
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 12: He has a right to vote for who he wants

1075
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 12: to and advocate for who he wants to.

1076
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 9: That's his business.

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00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 12: But the things that he said some things that you

1078
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 12: can't get pass. And so it's part of the legacy.

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 12: I'm gonna say, he's the complicated man.

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00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 13: See it forever, We love it.

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Speaker 1: Rating that's a part of bad Thanks a lot, Thanks

1082
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: a lot. I appreciated the Midnight Hour once again, Off

1083
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: and running Callers spectacular, Andrew and Bakersfield Ryan and Saint

1084
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Paul and Jerome back in Charleston. You are up next.

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00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: Everybody hang tight. Eight seven seven nine nine six six

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00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: three sixty nine. The Bernie Fraddle Show continues. Don't go anywhere,

1087
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: or you are first in line for front of Lobotomy.

1088
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm Bernie Frattle. We're come to you live from the

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00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. We're

1090
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: listening to the Bernie Frattles Show in the midnight hour

1091
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

1092
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1093
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1094
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1095
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 3: listen live.

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00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: All right, back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

1097
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: Come to your line from the compound here in Las Vegas.

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00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: That's dive back in to the midnight hour. Eight seven

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00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: seven nine nine sixty six three sixty nine. Andrew, thanks

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00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: for hanging on, Buddy, Andrew and Bakersfield a regular. What

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00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: have you got for us tonight?

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00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 15: What's up?

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00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 16: Bretty?

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00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 15: Can you quickly explain the first topic?

1105
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well, the first topic has to do with

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00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: the NFL fining one hundred players and a couple dozen

1107
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: club employees because they sold the Super Bowl fifty nine tickets.

1108
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: They were a lot of above face values that they're

1109
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: being called on the carpet.

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00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 15: Okay, all right, I'm going to go to the next

1111
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 15: the WNBA.

1112
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, Okay. Thoughts on their their their CDA battle, Well, I.

1113
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 15: Heard an interesting thing, and Andre in Massachusetts pretty much

1114
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 15: said the same thing. But Kevin in Culver City during

1115
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 15: Robin Kelvin's show said he thought the issue was that

1116
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 15: they were in fighting and they were, you know, putting

1117
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 15: Caitlin Clark down. And until they get that figured out, sorry,

1118
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 15: I have some background. Nice after they get that figured out,

1119
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 15: who do you whose.

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Speaker 1: Side are you on? Do you think these girls deserve

1121
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: more money? And if so, based on what well I would.

1122
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 15: Say, if they figured it out with Caitlin Clark, they.

1123
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: Would be probably that shit might have already sailed. Quite honestly.

1124
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you got people I think she's all a

1125
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: famer of people say she's a bust. They really they're

1126
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: you know, they're it's a situation. You you're a smart guy.

1127
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: You see it's right there in front of you. Yeah,

1128
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: you're the commissioner. You got to put your hat on

1129
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: right now, who's Saiddy? Who's who you siding with? They've

1130
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: lost a billion and a half and twenty nine years. Good.

1131
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: You're telling me you're going to make more in the future. Well,

1132
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: let's let's talk in three years when maybe you're making

1133
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: a profit.

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00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 9: Right.

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00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 15: I was going to say they would get paid based

1136
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 15: on the future. Now, if I was the commissioner, I

1137
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 15: don't think i'd do that, but maybe in a year.

1138
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Any thoughts on HK Hogan Andrew.

1139
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 15: Yeah, So he was my favorite wrestler pretty much, but like,

1140
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 15: once I found out it was fake or staged or whatever,

1141
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 15: I didn't really listen or watch that much. And so

1142
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 15: then I heard something about a documentary or something on Netflix,

1143
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 15: and I just kind of put it to the side

1144
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 15: and didn't know if all the details were correct, and

1145
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 15: I kind of left it in that case. And so

1146
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 15: when he died, heard more stuff about him. But that's

1147
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 15: what I kind of did. I don't know, what do

1148
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 15: you call it? Suspending judgment?

1149
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair.

1150
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm still there.

1151
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: I guess all right, Andrew. I always appreciate you man

1152
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: checking in all the time. Look, look, Hulk was an

1153
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: American pop culture phenomenon, but he was also admitted racist

1154
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: and a union buster. He did a lot of good things.

1155
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: I believe that he became a Christian born again Christian,

1156
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of folks in life struggle

1157
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: with the person they are versus the person they want

1158
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: to be. He was probably one of those. At the

1159
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, Ryan and Saint Paul, Minnesota, welcome

1160
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: into the Bernie Frouders Show. Is this your first time.

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 6: Calling today, Bernie, it's my first time.

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00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: Welcome in.

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00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 10: Good to have you, good to be with you.

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00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 11: I'd like to.

1165
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 10: Start with hall covering, and I am a child of

1166
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 10: the seventies and eighties, and I will tell you that

1167
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 10: his passion for entertainment, whether you call wrestling a sport

1168
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 10: or not a sport, his passion for his craft is

1169
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 10: very rarely seen these days in you know, sports or athletics.

1170
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 10: And there's just no denying the buzz that he created

1171
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 10: by the passion that he had.

1172
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that. And he became a larger

1173
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: than life figure. Any thought the other two subjects, go ahead,

1174
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah, you.

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00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 10: Know, the WNBA numbers speak for themselves, and I just

1176
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 10: don't think that the Caitlin Clark ticket is a free

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00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 10: ride for everyone in that league. And I just don't

1178
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 10: think that it's a rational logical, you know, uh situation,

1179
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 10: given the numbers to you know, create uh an issue

1180
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 10: as they have done.

1181
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: And they're going about it the wrong way.

1182
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 16: Uh.

1183
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on the NFL, I'll call it a ticket

1184
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: scalping saga for lack of a better Definitely.

1185
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 10: Yes, you know, at the end of the day, capitalism. Hello,

1186
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 10: you got to pay the bills.

1187
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

1188
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 10: They've didn't stealed the tickets, and you know, make your money,

1189
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 10: pay your bills, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, buddy, don't be a stranger. Welcome in, Appreciate you

1191
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Wake the neighbors, Alert

1192
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: the kids, Grandpa poot On Pats, We bring in the gentlemen.

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00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: The former lead singer of Harold Melvin and the Blue

1194
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: the legendary Jerome from Charleston. Jerome, where have you been,

1195
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: my friend?

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00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 6: And put on your depands too, Nah, I know you.

1197
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: Ain't talking to me. I don't even look at you. Okay, man,

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00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: It's good to have you back in the full Jerome.

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: I was. I was genuinely worried about you, so I

1200
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: lit a candle in shirts and well, while you're back right,

1201
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: I was.

1202
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 6: Worried about you because people were stumping to you for you,

1203
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 6: and I was wondering, where the hell is we're having them?

1204
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 14: If you're all right?

1205
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 6: Okay, question's answered.

1206
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm all right, man.

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00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 6: When and you think about the w NB, you know,

1208
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 6: the money and all that. I think about that old

1209
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 6: saying that colattery will get you nowhere? Okay, you long

1210
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 6: for a million dollars? I mean, coy, you want to

1211
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 6: be making demand. Come on, man, you're getting money and

1212
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 6: you're losing it and you want more money. What kind

1213
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 6: of business cloud are they taking?

1214
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: Man?

1215
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 11: Come on?

1216
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have I could have said it better,

1217
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: quite honestly, I could have sat.

1218
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 6: Up and as far as haug Holgan, you know, I

1219
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 6: was watching down a Ross a couple of weeks ago

1220
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 6: as I was I'm feeling too good thinking about my mom,

1221
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 6: and uh my favorite down and Ross song was reach

1222
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 6: out and touch. So brought his hand make this wir

1223
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 6: a little better place? Right? You know what's disappointing is

1224
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 6: that he got all the fame, all the story and

1225
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 6: then like that old thing, goal was in the dark,

1226
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 6: will come to the light. You know, just a shame

1227
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 6: that he went out the way he did because I

1228
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 6: would never wish anything bad or anyone because I'm a human.

1229
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 6: I'm a human being too. But it's just said that,

1230
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 6: you know, the things that came out about him and

1231
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 6: how we found out there was a tide of him

1232
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 6: that a lot of a lot of us never really knew. Right,

1233
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 6: And as far as the NFL, hey, greed is good,

1234
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 6: greed is right, green works. How much money do you need? Hey,

1235
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 6: try to let the moto might draw gets you every month. Okay,

1236
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 6: you got all this money, and what you want? You

1237
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: want more money, and then you gotta do all this

1238
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 6: underhand and stuff. You know, you didn't think this was

1239
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 6: going to get out, and come on, you gotta you

1240
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 6: gotta be smarter than there.

1241
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: Don't don't bite the.

1242
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: Hand and peg Jerome. I think we're three for three, man.

1243
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: Hope to see you back next week. I'll be here,

1244
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: hope you will be as well. Let's welcome in t

1245
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: R in San Diego. And I believe tr this is

1246
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: also your first time calling the Bernie Frattle Show.

1247
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 8: It's j R.

1248
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: J R. Okay, I apologize, Okay.

1249
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I called you before.

1250
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 8: But about those tickets, it should be it shouldn't do

1251
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 8: anything you want with tickets. Man, Once you get those tickets,

1252
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 8: sweet takes, why not?

1253
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't argue. I can't argue with that. I

1254
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: get it. I'm I'm right down the bedl on this. However,

1255
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: if I said, hey, Jr. Man, can you can you

1256
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: hook me up? I want to go to the Potters

1257
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: game next week? You give me two tickets behind the place.

1258
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: You see. How was the game? Oh? Man? I sold them?

1259
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: I made two hundred bucks. How are you going to

1260
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: feel about that if you were the giver?

1261
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 6: So what?

1262
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: Who cares? Okay, it's all you know what? I respect

1263
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: that the beauty, the beauty of the midnight hour is

1264
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: the most boring conversations when everybody agrees. I don't agree.

1265
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't agree. If I get somebody something they want

1266
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: to they want to have it. They may not ever

1267
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: know that I'm pissed off. That would rub me the

1268
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: wrong way. But I listen, this is why we do.

1269
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: This is why we're bringing callers to get various opinions.

1270
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: So you're right. I guess what you're essentially saying is

1271
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: once the property is transferred from you to me or

1272
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: whoever it's theirs not or do what they want with it, right,

1273
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: that what you're business saying? All right, that's just move

1274
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: on to the w n B.

1275
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 8: A and you know about the w NBA. Who wants

1276
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 8: to watch those ladies do layups. I'd rather watch eighth

1277
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 8: or ninth grade or doing three sixty dumps. It's better

1278
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 8: than w NBA and the w NBA. It's about supplying demand.

1279
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 8: That's why Lady Sucka.

1280
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 9: Doesn't you know work in the US.

1281
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 7: They like to lose some money.

1282
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 8: Is all about money supplying the man.

1283
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: Right, he just nailed it right now, with all due respect,

1284
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: there isn't nearly the demand for the product. I'm not

1285
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: saying there's a zero demand. But during one point five

1286
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: billion in the hole in twenty five years, and I

1287
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: know everything's different.

1288
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 8: Rather what the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas and

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Speaker 8: wants w NBA, I wish you.

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Speaker 1: To call my show a few weeks back because Klay

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Speaker 1: Travis was willing to put up a million dollars to

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Speaker 1: have a high school state champion team play the w NBA.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they'll be the little destroying period.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree to. I agree to you finally, any thoughts,

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01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: good good stuff, Jared for any thoughts on Hulkoge.

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Speaker 8: I think most people that really kind of back in

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Speaker 8: the I used to walk back in the eighties until

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Speaker 8: I turned twenty one. I thought every thing was all real,

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Speaker 8: and I like to say, called rest and peach and

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Speaker 8: God bless you. That's all I got to say.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, don't be a stranger, Jared. I appreciate

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01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: hearing from you. Man. Okay, another Bronco fan and Colorado

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Speaker 1: is up next, and we'll call you by your name.

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Speaker 1: Another Bronco fan. Welcome in, Hi. How's it going good?

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01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: How are you good?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: I want to chime in on all three. As far

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Speaker 16: as the w NBA, I'm kind of porn on that

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01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 16: and I'm not sure exactly, you know, how they're subsidized

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Speaker 16: or whatnot?

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01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: You know WNBA, how they check that the NBA, my friend,

1312
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: the REA that's get you out. But just do they

1313
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: are they.

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Speaker 16: Kind of like a tax ride off or something for

1315
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 16: the NBA, I know that, you know, do they get

1316
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 16: some kind of kickback or something or I don't know.

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01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: No, the NBA owns sixty percent of the w NBA,

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01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: and they've been subsidized every penny of these losses since

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01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. It's very saable. The WNBA's operational exis

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Speaker 1: since completely depends on the large art of the NBA.

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Speaker 16: Well, here's the thing that, Okay, it's great that they're

1322
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 16: you know, subsidizing in the whole shot. As far as

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01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 16: the ladies wanted more money, I'm torn on that because

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Speaker 16: I'm you know, I'm on the side on one side.

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 16: As far as don't like to hand to feed you

1326
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 16: kind of thing, yeah, I agree with that right at

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01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 16: the same time and going, well, they do need to

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 16: make a living, but don't get too over.

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Speaker 9: Greedy.

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Speaker 16: We'll say, Okay, they're making good money, and I mean,

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01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 16: you know, in the off season they can do other

1332
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 16: things and say, Caitlin Clark is endorsement, so she's set

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Speaker 16: for life.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, torn on that.

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Speaker 16: The thing with Hulk Hogan. I myself, if I'm going

1336
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 16: to watch wrestling, I'd rather wait for the Olympics and

1337
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 16: watch it every four years. But check this out that

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01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 16: my grandmother was a huge fan, and especially you know, sixties, seventies, eighties.

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01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 16: Bless her heart rest in peace. She thought it was,

1340
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 16: you know, just the best thing go to visit. No,

1341
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 16: no know until this is over. You know, her attention

1342
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 16: span was on that old Cogan as the person I

1343
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 16: know a little bit about him, pros and cons. But

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Speaker 16: I will say this rest in peace, pros cons whatever.

1345
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 16: As far as the tickets, you know, the way I

1346
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 16: look at it, you know, it's a gift from the NFL.

1347
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 16: I'm thinking if the people that receive it don't want

1348
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 16: to attend, give it to somebody, friends, family, whatever, on

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01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 16: the condition you will go and attend this event. You

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01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 16: will not sell that for profit.

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01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: That's the That's the way I would view it.

1352
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: You know, if you do not care to attend.

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01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 16: If you do not care to attend, let me know.

1354
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 16: I'll find somebody else that will attend and enjoy it

1355
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 16: and appreciate it. I do think they should sell it

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01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 16: for profit.

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01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. That that's a salient point. Another Bronco fame.

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Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger, all right, the Midnight Hour rules

1359
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: on up. Next we'll have Beast of the East, and

1360
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: then we'll have Big Mic in Las Vegas and Lighton

1361
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. And just please hang tight, because I definitely

1362
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: do want to hear from all of you. By the way,

1363
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.

1364
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: There's a ton of great videos from many of our

1365
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search Fox Sports Radio on

1366
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of video highlights

1367
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: from our shows. And be sure to subscribe so you

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01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos

1369
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: on YouTube. I'm Bernie Fraddle. Come to your line from

1370
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. It is midnight hour.

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Speaker 1: Keep it locked. Listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show on

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01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show,

1373
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: the Midnight Hour continues. Let's go back out to the phones.

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: We are joined by the Beast of the East in

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01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: New York. Welcome in, my man, Hey, my friend.

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01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 11: I'm not usually want to wait thirty minutes, but you're

1377
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 11: so popular. But that was good tonight. I just want

1378
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 11: to talk about how I appreciate Thank you. One four

1379
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 11: I listened to out of the whole lineup on Fox,

1380
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 11: so I'm congrants you got a great show.

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01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: Thanks for being a patient, my friend. Uh, the I

1382
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: try to get to the folks as quickly as possible.

1383
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you plenty of air time here

1384
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: and you'll hear me more on the air of the

1385
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: year goes on, I'll be doing feelings and stuff.

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01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 11: So I got a great subject for another time, but

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 11: that would take more time. I've done some sports radio,

1388
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 11: so I know what it takes to be a good show,

1389
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 11: and you got it. Anyways, halt sir, This an interesting story.

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 11: You know what, I don't care about all anything that

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 11: was said about him. I just look at him. You know,

1392
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 11: the entertainment whatever wrestling was fixed or whatever, it's okay.

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: He did.

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01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 11: He brought that sport, whatever it is, up to the

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 11: levels you know that we've never heard of before. And

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01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 11: one time I happened to be on a business conference

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01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,440
Speaker 11: with my family at the Atlantis and the Bahamas.

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Speaker 9: So I'm on the slide.

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 11: The big guy was on the water slide, big water slide,

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 11: and then having to run into him in the restaurant.

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 11: I had a pretty good sports cutch, and so I

1402
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 11: know what it means for the autographs, you know, to

1403
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 11: be the cal ripped in to sit and sign everyone

1404
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 11: or whatever, had a bodyguard tarage with him, and they

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01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 11: were eating at the same restaurant we ate at. I

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01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 11: didn't bother the people were trying to get to him

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 11: while they're eating, and.

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01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: They got shoot away.

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01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 11: We happen to go in the Teshire line at the

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01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 11: same time, and you know, I looked over to him.

1411
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 11: He was paying, I was paying, and I had my

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 11: eight year old fun there and I said, real loud,

1413
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 11: kind of loud. I said, well, miss, maybe now that

1414
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 11: mister Hogan is done eating, he might take a picture

1415
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 11: with you. And sure enough, he looked at me smugly,

1416
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 11: and he pointed at my son and he called him over, dude.

1417
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 11: He lifted them up as tall as he could. I

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01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 11: got a great picture. I always had that picture, but

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 11: you know that's pretty cool.

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: Anyways, Absolutely night. Hey, I appreciate you checking in BCDs.

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01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger man. Try to get in earlier

1422
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: in the night and we'll keep those weights down. Hey,

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01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: Big Mike in Las Vegas is back. Welcome and Mike

1424
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: Bernie Bernie.

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 7: There's only a few people that I'd wait in the

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 7: queue for, and yeah, you're one of them. Really, so

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 7: I really enjoyed listening to your show.

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01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's after being on the air for thirty

1430
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 7: years myself and the Los Angeles so great. Great hearing

1431
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 7: you and there's a wealth of information, calm and preparedness,

1432
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 7: and it's a that's apparent.

1433
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 1: Every time you take the airway.

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 7: So thank you for all of that.

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01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's there, So it's a it's not a

1437
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 7: false suck up there, that's for real. So it's a

1438
01:10:55,240 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 7: real suck up. So beautiful night in Vegas tonight. Just

1439
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 7: came back from taking my puppy out for a walk.

1440
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 7: So come on out to Las Vegas, spend some money,

1441
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 7: enjoy it, and enjoy it. Everybody, come on out, even

1442
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 7: in summertime. It's beautiful. But let's go to the topics.

1443
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I've been so after living in La for

1444
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 7: fifty years, right down the street from the RAMS office

1445
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:32,879
Speaker 7: during these seventies and eighties on Pico Boulevard near Fox Studios,

1446
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 7: I know what happens to those Super Bowl tickets. Even

1447
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 7: from the highest levels, they get.

1448
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 9: Filtered, sold, And.

1449
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 7: You know this is just a reality. It goes down

1450
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 7: players general managers. Yes, that's where general managers will trade

1451
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 7: them and set and have them sold on their behalf.

1452
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: So it's done.

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 7: You know, there's a lot worse things to go on.

1454
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: In the boy.

1455
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: So basically Mike, You're you're okay with it, and you're

1456
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of a pragmatic thing. It's just it's going

1457
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: to happen. You're okay with it.

1458
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 7: Especially well it has nothing super Bowl that the only

1459
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 7: thing the fans have in the involvement are watching it

1460
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 7: and having Super Bowl parties. Attendance is not a fan thing.

1461
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 7: It's fans are press out of it.

1462
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: Absolutely no, No, it's it's It's a good point because

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01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: I've been to three Super Bowls, only covered one in

1464
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: a phishing capacity. Any thoughts on the w n b

1465
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: A and their CBA fight which is coming up.

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01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 7: Oh I should I've been following the uh the w

1467
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 7: n b A and going to their games being in

1468
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 7: Los Angeles and enjoying them back then at least with

1469
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 7: the sparksy ce Leslie and when the Bus family owned

1470
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 7: the team. But why so many where there's so many

1471
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 7: different owners all over for the years. Well, they didn't

1472
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 7: make money, and that's the thing, not at all. They

1473
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 7: did have some good stars along the way, Olympians playing

1474
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 7: on the team. But these girls are women are completely nuts.

1475
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 7: They're radical, they're not that entertaining for the most part,

1476
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 7: and they're being subsidized by the NBA. And if they

1477
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 7: were anything more than than twelve players traveling around for

1478
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 7: team or fourteen, they wouldn't get subsidized. And a lot

1479
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 7: has to do just with a social political part of them.

1480
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 7: And like your previous callers said, you know, they've been

1481
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 7: losing money for over a quarter of a century. Wesments

1482
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 7: at the WNBA All Star Game and they're trying to

1483
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 7: kill their cold golden goose there with Caitlin Clark and

1484
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 7: ridiculous there, Bernie, completely ridiculous.

1485
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts Mike on on hul Cogan, All I.

1486
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 7: Can say that the people that are on the air

1487
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 7: that turn that turn go from pundit uh to half

1488
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 7: assed journalists are an embarrassment to being on the air

1489
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 7: when they talked about haul Hogan when I went on

1490
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 7: the air and I and I sourced things out by

1491
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 7: two or three different sources. And uh, you're only getting

1492
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 7: part of the story for people that want to character

1493
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 7: assassinate hal Cogan without giving you, as Paul Harvey would say, the.

1494
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: Rest of the story. Way to finish my strong stuff.

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01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger, love your calls, appreciate it. Leighton

1496
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. You're up next, Hey, Bernie. Uh.

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 17: This discovered you about in a year and a half ago.

1498
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 17: That was a regular list of the Ben Maller Show.

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01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 17: I really liked you, man, I'm kind of your age

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Speaker 17: and really enjoy your wealth of experience. I just want

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01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 17: to touch quickly on the NBA and Hulk Hogan because

1502
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 17: they want to finish with the w NBA the NFL.

1503
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 17: I see that as an amenity. They don't want him

1504
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 17: to sell it, don't give it to him. Hulk Hogan

1505
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 17: wasn't into that sport much, but I think everybody that

1506
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 17: was in that industry owes him a lot. Or the

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 17: way he was able to raise it up and make

1508
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 17: it a sellable product. Remember when they splitted it for

1509
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 17: him to beat Android to John Andre the Giant. Of course,

1510
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 17: if Andre didn't want him to win, nobody could get

1511
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 17: him down.

1512
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 2: I give Hoult credit.

1513
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 17: He picked him up all the way up or Head

1514
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 17: and Landy h and last great memory.

1515
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,879
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, thirty three million people watch that broadcast.

1516
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 17: You know how big Andre the Giant was. I used

1517
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 17: to Oh my god, God, the train something with him.

1518
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 14: He was a lesser as even something like that.

1519
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he took.

1520
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 8: He took the front seat out of his car so

1521
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 8: he could drive it.

1522
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: Okay, anything on the WNBA.

1523
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 17: Absolutely before Caitlyn Clark, I checked it out. It's such

1524
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 17: an inferior product product. They're slow, they just layups. Terrible product.

1525
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 17: Then when Caitlin Clark came along outside, I wanted to

1526
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 17: check it out. And you're playing college. I mean she

1527
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 17: was a great outside shooter.

1528
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 14: I watched her.

1529
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 17: She could drive the ball, handle the pressure, really like it.

1530
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 17: And then here came the thuggery. Years ago, Warren Samp

1531
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 17: was trailing a play against Green Bay and he came

1532
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 17: up from the blind side and just absolutely clocked an

1533
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 17: offensive linement, and I thought, I never forgot.

1534
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 9: That chief shot. So here's what they need to do.

1535
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 17: As soon as when one of them girls came from

1536
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 17: back and after the whistle had wanted to come up

1537
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 17: and just slammed her to the ground. I tell you

1538
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 17: to stop that three game suspension, maybe fine, half dollars fine,

1539
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 17: And then if you come if it happens again, more serious,

1540
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 17: that'll stop all that.

1541
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate your calling your thoughts and uh and

1542
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: on these street topics tonight, don't be a stranger. Late. Look,

1543
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: I think you were referring to the file Kennedy Carter

1544
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: on a dead ball slammed her from behind to the ground.

1545
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: Had nothing to do with the basketball play, just pure anger.

1546
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: The camera to Tama tells the story. I mean, your trust,

1547
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: your eyes will tell you a lot. And who's over

1548
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: in the corner jumping up and down like you just

1549
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: won the lottery? The angel Reese. Is that a good look?

1550
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: Just tell me? Does that really help you sell your product?

1551
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: That's all I want to know. So we've got a situation.

1552
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: We've got two more callers in the queue, and you're

1553
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 1: gonna get on. Uh.

1554
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 8: Uh.

1555
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: What what I'm gonna ask you to do is you

1556
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: can wait a few minutes. We'll get you back on.

1557
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: Otherwise you won't. It's not fair to give you ten

1558
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: cents of air time. We've got Bryce in Texas and

1559
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: Mike and Washington. You'll be our final two callers. Uh,

1560
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 1: but you waited, you dialed in and you get you

1561
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: get your shot tonight, which we look forward to hearing from.

1562
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: But we've got to, uh, you know, the proverbial, pay

1563
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: some bills and things like that. So we'll pick this

1564
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour, and if you

1565
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: had missed earlier in the hour, we're talking about the

1566
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: WNBA and their quests for more money even though the

1567
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: parential will lose money. The NFL players, one hundred players

1568
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: and a few organizational employees sold Super Bowl tickets at

1569
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: a profit and they got their hands slapped. And then

1570
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: finally remembering hul Cogan, which I think a lot of

1571
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: people have done a great job tonight, So keep it locked.

1572
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: They're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show in the midnight

1573
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: hour Fox Sports Radio. That's right, you heard the man.

1574
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: The Bernie Fraddle Show keeps rolling right along. My name

1575
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: is Bernie Fraddle. Will coming you Alive with Fox Sports

1576
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 1: Radio Studios here in Las Vegas. Took you after three

1577
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: am Pacific, six am Eastern, and I want to remind

1578
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: you for the best pregame show every weekend, be sure

1579
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: to tune into Fox Sports Radio's Contown presented by BETMGM,

1580
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: every Saturday and Sunday morning from nine am to noon

1581
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: Eastern six to nine am Pacific. We will count you

1582
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: down to all the biggest games. Tune into Contown, presented

1583
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: by BETMGM, every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on

1584
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Well, this

1585
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: is the case every now and then we go overtime

1586
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: on the midnight hour because if you took the time

1587
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: to dial in, I't want you to get shut out.

1588
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: Bryce in Texas joined just next. Bryce. You've called many times.

1589
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: What have you got for us tonight?

1590
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 13: Bernan, thank you for being back time this hit last week.

1591
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 13: But real quick with starting in the NFL. There is

1592
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 13: an old thing that I remember growing up. I don't

1593
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 13: hear it as much anymore, but it was something like

1594
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 13: opportunity makes a thief as far as I'm concerned, and

1595
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 13: the twenty seconds of studying this, I guess I think

1596
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 13: it's against their CBA for them to do this, So

1597
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,759
Speaker 13: they're basically making money on I guess it's not stolen product,

1598
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 13: but it's not product that's free for them to sell

1599
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 13: for profit either.

1600
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: It's a complicated situation to me. All I can say

1601
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: is the way the Bryce, the way the NFL has

1602
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: reacted and they've brought the hammer down a little bit

1603
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: and it's a little long comemfortable, leads me to believe

1604
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: this is not kosher from the people who are giving

1605
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: the tickets.

1606
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 13: So what kind of right, and like I heard your

1607
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 13: analogy earlier about like giving tickets to a Padre's game

1608
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 13: and the friends selling them. I think this goes beyond that.

1609
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 13: This is like company property. It sounds like getting sold

1610
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 13: out from underneath the company, which is like stealing money

1611
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 13: from the company that way. So I kind of understand

1612
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 13: why the hammer's coming.

1613
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: Down on them, fair enough, but it's good fun. Go ahead. Sorry.

1614
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 13: The second one was the w NBA CVA yep, and

1615
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 13: I think it's funny that Angel rees in them or

1616
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 13: even like joking about sitting out like they have no

1617
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 13: leverage in any of this. The WNBA is going to

1618
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 13: be subsidized by the NBA forever. WNBA dos have to

1619
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 13: do anything. And I own a small business e commerce business,

1620
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,520
Speaker 13: and one of the biggest turn offs for like employees

1621
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 13: that come to me is like, oh, okay, I'm getting

1622
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 13: paid this much like when well, like how much more

1623
01:20:59,320 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 13: tann get paid this?

1624
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 7: Click?

1625
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,560
Speaker 13: Show me what you're doing first, like show me what

1626
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 13: you can build me first, before I even begin to

1627
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 13: talk about future income.

1628
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: Well, what cracks me up. And I hear what you're saying.

1629
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: What cracks me up is they want revenue sharing. That's

1630
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 1: going to be the Well, sure, when there's revenue, maybe

1631
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: they can share it. Right now, they're a billion and

1632
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: a half in the hole over the last twenty nine years.

1633
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: I know this is not the current player's fault, but

1634
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 1: they're doing nothing to change that pattern in my opinion,

1635
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Bryce, right.

1636
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 6: I couldn't.

1637
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more.

1638
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 9: The last.

1639
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, for hault Cogan, there's an old Shakespeare's quote said

1640
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 13: something along the lines of your mistakes will live longer

1641
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 13: than your legacy. And I hope that that's about the

1642
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 13: case for him.

1643
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: I hope that.

1644
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 13: Yes, he had some scandals and there are some fact

1645
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 13: old politics, but he really did inspire generations starting from

1646
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 13: probably like the seventies and eighties onwards, to get into

1647
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 13: the wrestling business, to get into the entertainment business, especially

1648
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 13: through the time where everybody wanted to crap on wrestling

1649
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 13: and be like, oh, it's fake, and you know, only

1650
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 13: luthers liked that. Like he was part of making it

1651
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 13: larger than life. And now WWE is selling out arenas everywhere.

1652
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 13: Heyw is selling out arenas everywhere, and these guys are getting.

1653
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 1: Remember remember when they sold out to Pontiac Silverdome ninety

1654
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 1: three thousand people.

1655
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's crazy.

1656
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: And an earlier caller talked about Deander the Giant Match,

1657
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: thirty three million people watch it on TV. You bring

1658
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: up a really good point. I have one sentence. Hul

1659
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: Cogan make pro wrestling popular to the masses because he

1660
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: was a pop culture icon. That's the way I see it.

1661
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 2: I could not agree more.

1662
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,799
Speaker 13: I think he's done more for that than Vince mcmangit.

1663
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: Oh oh, there's no question. There's no question. And Hogan

1664
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: was actually likable. He's human and I know that warts

1665
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: have come out. That's the ward on Lincoln's knows it happens.

1666
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: That's what we do in our society. Thanks a lot,

1667
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: Bryce for hanging on. I appreciate your calls always. We

1668
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: just do that in our society. We elevate people to

1669
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: their highest plan. So whether it's sports, entertainment, politics, you

1670
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: name it, only to tear them down. Mike and Washington,

1671
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: bring us over. Are you a first time caller at

1672
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 1: the Bernie Frottle Show.

1673
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 9: I'm kind of a long time listener at the first

1674
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 9: time caller Bernie, and I'm living over. I'm living in Wanatchi, Washington,

1675
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 9: away from Seattle.

1676
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 14: Now Okay, I.

1677
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 9: Think this ticket thing is a little bit of a

1678
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 9: tempest in a teapot, but I think it's shortsighted on

1679
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 9: these players. I think they get a lot more, you know,

1680
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 9: a lot more tread on the tires if they donate

1681
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 9: these tickets to charities and auctions and stuff. They don't

1682
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 9: really need the money. I have been to two FA

1683
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 9: Cup finals in England and the way they solve that

1684
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 9: problem is those tickets get distributed to groups of people,

1685
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 9: but with the caveat that with it for a year.

1686
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 9: The FA can recall the ticket stub at any time

1687
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 9: and if you can't produce the ticket stub, you never

1688
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 9: ever get another ticket.

1689
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: Interesting happy about this. We've got some really interesting We've

1690
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: got some really thoughtful callers tonight from all different sides

1691
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: of the coin. I just know the NFL's pissed off

1692
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: about this, and they're.

1693
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 9: Acting a cour well, they just kind of turned a

1694
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 9: blind eye to it for so long and then it

1695
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 9: got bad pub and so they have to be mad

1696
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 9: about it because they got bad pub. As far as

1697
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 9: the WNBA, I think you know, I'm I think I'm

1698
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 9: about eight or ten years older than you, but I

1699
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 9: grew up in Seattle when the SuperSonics first came, NBA

1700
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 9: was just kind of getting popular players that weren't the best.

1701
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 9: Players had to do other things to earn a living.

1702
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 9: I remember guys who were account executives for the phone

1703
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 9: company and for coffee companies it's sold to, like my

1704
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 9: dad's company. They would give they'd give tickets to their

1705
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 9: accounts and we'd go to games. And that's how they

1706
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 9: built up the popularity of their sport. And that's how

1707
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 9: the league paid its dues. And after years and years

1708
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 9: and years, the NBA got popular. W NBA hasn't done

1709
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 9: any of that. And I think this is all coming

1710
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 9: from a bunch of players who are ignorant and miseducated

1711
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 9: about what they're do and why they're doing.

1712
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: And Mike, we had an earlier caller not to cut

1713
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: you off, which I just did, But we had an

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01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: earlier caller reference topply and demand. There is not a

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01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: hell of a lot of demand for this product. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: continue on.

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01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,560
Speaker 9: This is all this is all coming from the d

1718
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 9: DEI misinformation. This is all coming from I call it

1719
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 9: the emmergen Carenocracy of the United States, where you know,

1720
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 9: people whine and complain about miserable, little nothing things to

1721
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 9: bring attention to themselves that have no merit, And that's

1722
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 9: where this is coming from. I have no sympathy for

1723
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 9: them at all. And if it keeps on, I hope

1724
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 9: Caitlin Clark goes to Europe and leaves the whole league dangling.

1725
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm curious where this sums up. I might yeah, real quickly,

1726
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: Mike any finals, any thoughts on hul Cogan and his legacy.

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Speaker 9: Well, I remember when hul Cogan was on the Ted

1728
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 9: Turner channel, when it first when pro wrestling first became

1729
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 9: a national thing, and it was a Saturday afternoon thing

1730
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 9: on Ted Turner's network, And you know then I don't

1731
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 9: even think he was calling himself hull Cogan. He might

1732
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 9: have still been calling himself Carrie. It was him and

1733
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 9: the fabulous Free Birds. And then he was just a

1734
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 9: submerging character. And he was sometimes a bad guy and

1735
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 9: sometimes a good guy, but he was way more interesting

1736
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 9: and way more exciting, and he did a pretty damn

1737
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 9: good job of marketing self himself. And yeah, he made

1738
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 9: some mistakes, but I think overall he's a pretty good guy.

1739
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 9: I think overall he left a good legacy for himself.

1740
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 9: And I saw some people talking about him this week,

1741
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 9: talking heads on TV who you know discussing him was

1742
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 9: bringing a tear to their eye. Well, you know, somebody,

1743
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 9: when I die, if people are talking aboubby with tears

1744
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 9: in their eyes, I think I'd be feel pretty good

1745
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 9: about myself.

1746
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: Excellent call way to wrap things up to. I might

1747
01:27:54,520 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughts and candor. Look, Hulk was a larger

1748
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: than life hero to a lot of people. He was

1749
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: a pop culture icon and as I said, he made

1750
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: wrestling popular to the masses because of his personality and

1751
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 1: his creativity in his athleticism. And I know there are

1752
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: still a blockheads, Oh it's fake. Listen, it's entertainment. If

1753
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: you don't watch it, you don't want to watch it,

1754
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: turn it off, you'll I get fine. And you know,

1755
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: the market will always decide. And the market decided they

1756
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: liked Kulkogan over the years. Uh, And the numbers bear

1757
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 1: it out. I won't give you a bunch of numbers

1758
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: on the radio like I just did about the w NBA. Look,

1759
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're if you're Tiger Woods or

1760
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: Mark the Bird Fiedrich. Uh, right on through the years, uh,

1761
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 1: Serena and Venus Williams. If you put butts in seats

1762
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: because you're bringing something uh that the American masses can

1763
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: avail themselves. We do like our bread and circuses. Then

1764
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: the market will always decide. And that's as simple as that.

1765
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: And it's an interesting juxtaposition because like him or hate him,

1766
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: and we know what his warts were Hull Cogan, if

1767
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: they're well publicized, but by and large, on balance, he

1768
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: won over the American people. The American people like their heroes.

1769
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: We do not have royalty in this country. Our athletes

1770
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,879
Speaker 1: and our entertainers are in fact our royalty. Our athletes

1771
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: are amertainers, and wrestlers were entertainers. And you can make

1772
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: fun of the people who go, but when you see

1773
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 1: ninety three thousand people at a silver dome, man, that

1774
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: doesn't happen automatically. By the way, Hugh on the Five,

1775
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: who used to call in, he's a good caller. He said, Hey, Bernie,

1776
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: nice listening in. Remember lost Leader. As far as the

1777
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 1: w NBA Barfest, Hughes not one to mince words, and

1778
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: he said, Hulk Cogan and Mike Tyson are equals in

1779
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: their sports. I think it's fair they're iconic, they're headliners.

1780
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,919
Speaker 1: They're the type of people that you're talking about afterward.

1781
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: I've never met Terry Bully a Hulk Cogan, but I

1782
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: might test him many times. He's a great guy man.

1783
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: He's a very he's actually a very bright man. He

1784
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: had a very difficult upbringing. Anything that he ever loved

1785
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 1: was taken away from him and it got to him.

1786
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: But his legacy, I think is secure. That's the way

1787
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: I see it. Thanks so much to all the callers,

1788
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: exceptional calls tonight. People are candid, they speak their mind,

1789
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: they're not afraid to share alternative thoughts and viewpoints. As

1790
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: I've always said, the most boring calls or when everybody

1791
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 1: agrees and we didn't agree, we didn't agree. Although I

1792
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 1: will say this, I didn't hear one person make a

1793
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: salient point or a valid case for the WNBA. And look,

1794
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: we're not bashing in the WNBA. Just call him as

1795
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: we see him. How the hell do you lose a

1796
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: billion and a half over twenty nine years and say

1797
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: give me more money? Well, I get it that a

1798
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: TV deals coming in, but there are still issues and

1799
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 1: questions about how Well, all right, let's just see what happens, okay,

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01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,719
Speaker 1: And if he's I will tell you that. Two thousand

1801
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: and one, I think it was two thousand and one,

1802
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: the WNBA had a similar situation and they threaten to

1803
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: walk out, and David Stearn says, you know, you know,

1804
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: get your fares in order, say you goodbyes, you leave,

1805
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: We're done. We'll shut this thing down faster. And you

1806
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: know the problem is when you have an All Star

1807
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: game and I believe the All Star Game was sold

1808
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,600
Speaker 1: out sixteen thousand people, and you turn it into a

1809
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: piss fest, and all of a sudden, you're wearing these

1810
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: goofy T shirts. And then you've got Kelsey Plump saying

1811
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 1: we'll have to be a tattletale. But I'm going to

1812
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: be a tattletale because I probably don't like Katelin Cark either.

1813
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I don't know if

1814
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: you just liked Katelin Clark at all. But that was stupid.

1815
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: Every turn, it seems like they do the wrong thing,

1816
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: all right, And as these events continue on and off

1817
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: the court, I mean, the popularity of this league, at

1818
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: least among the masses, and you really backfired what they did.

1819
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: The WNVA did. They did not get They did not

1820
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: rally a lot of supporter sympathy or empathy from innos bystanders. Frankly,

1821
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: I think their popularity right now in the last week

1822
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: is thinking. I think it's deflating faster than a tea

1823
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: wanna breast implant. So let's see where they go from here.

1824
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: They always got a chance to turn it around. What

1825
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: the hell anybody can have three off decades? Right by

1826
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: the way, for the press pregame show every weekend, be

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01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,920
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1834
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: three days away from college football. Let me tell you now,

1835
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole lot of head cracking going

1836
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: on on are Yep, we're twenty three days away from that.

1837
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: What are the five biggest storylines? I'll tell yeah, coming

1838
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,200
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1840
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,880
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1845
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:26,240
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1846
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Come to live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio compound.

1847
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: Here in Las Vegas. That's the Department of Redundancy Department,

1848
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: thirty seven minutes away from the dance sensation sweep in

1849
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: the nation. What kind of brand new fool you followed

1850
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: by what my name? But we are five days a

1851
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: week away from NFL football Thursday night at the Hall

1852
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: of Fame game. This is the last weekend without football

1853
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: till mid February. Now I realized Thursday is not a

1854
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: weekend day, but it's first Friday for some folks. You

1855
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: get my drift. And next weekend is the NFL Hall

1856
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: of Fame Induction ceremonies, which are always a treat. But Saturday,

1857
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: August twenty third, there are four college football games and

1858
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: that will begin to paint the picture of the storylines

1859
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: for this upcoming season. I mentored under Dick Shapp and

1860
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: I once asked him when I first got to know him,

1861
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: what's your favorite sport? He goes, my favorite sport is people,

1862
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 1: and I said, well, who do you root for? He goes,

1863
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: I root for the story. I went for a team

1864
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,759
Speaker 1: or root for the story, and that's ultimately what drives

1865
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: sports conversations. The first storyline to me that I think

1866
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: people will climb onto quickly is that the Arch Manning

1867
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: era is now beginning for Texas, who many think they

1868
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 1: may have their best team in years. And that's saying

1869
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 1: a lot, because they've been pretty good recently and it's

1870
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: hard to believe. But Manning, it's his third year on

1871
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: the roster, and you got a perfect one hundred rating

1872
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: Arch Manning as a prospect coming out of New Orleans

1873
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 1: in the class of twenty twenty three. And the people

1874
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 1: who've scotted him and evaluated him that know what they're doing.

1875
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: They rave about him, his size, his mechanics, his tools,

1876
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: his intuition, his playmaking. Whether he's in drills or in

1877
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: camp or practice or live game settings, every move Arch

1878
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Manning makes since he's gotten to Texas and he you know,

1879
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: was a second he was a second year backup last

1880
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: year has created some sort of headline including he lost

1881
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: his student id the first semester. He's arch Manning, the

1882
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: son of Cooper Manning, the son of Archie Manning, and

1883
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 1: you know who Archie Manning was. Now the time is here.

1884
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 1: This is one of the most promising prospects, one of

1885
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: the most hype prospects of the last twenty years. In

1886
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: my opinion, it's his turn to take over. You're handing

1887
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: arch Manning the keys of the car, and Lord behold.

1888
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: They visit Ohio State week one with arch Manning as

1889
01:35:56,080 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback. Okay, Quinn, yours is no longer there.

1890
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: This is the spotlight for the team that may be

1891
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 1: number one in some season polls, should make the playoffs,

1892
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: has a very daunting schedule, and they open up at

1893
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: the defending national champ Ohio State. Yeah, you know, I've

1894
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: always said that sports are the greatest reality show because

1895
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: you can script everything. But the ending Ohio State's a

1896
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 1: two and a half point favorite. I don't know who

1897
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: wins that game. It's easy to pick Ohio State, but

1898
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 1: they're breaking in a new quarterback, and they have some

1899
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 1: but they're still loaded. But arch Manning will be the

1900
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 1: You'll hear more about arch Manning in that game, probably

1901
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: than we've been hearing about Shudeorge Sanders, and that's a lot.

1902
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: Texas opens again at Ohio State on the road, the

1903
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: remaining national the reigning national champion, and uh look, arch Manning.

1904
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 1: It must the same way Peyton Manning had a lot

1905
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: of accolades at at at at Tennessee. Arch Manning has

1906
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 1: a good fortune of being at Texas during a time

1907
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 1: when the Longhords and they have a very pro tradition

1908
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: and if they're a very historic program, they're running at

1909
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: a level you really haven't seen in sixteen years when

1910
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 1: they got to the championship game in Pasadena and the

1911
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: BILDBCS and Colt McCoy got hurt the first or second

1912
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: play of the game or whatever in Bama. Bama hammered

1913
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: them right. Texas has not really been on that level

1914
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: in over a decade and a half. But Steve Sarkisian

1915
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 1: he's now having playing in the conference championship games in

1916
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: the national semifinals the last two years, why he recruits well.

1917
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 1: Texas has resources, he's got one of the best rosters

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Speaker 1: in the country. And now and look what they've put

1919
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL and Texas is already one of the

1920
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: biggest stories in the season. But you add arch Manning

1921
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, you've got the Hollywood

1922
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 1: story that people are looking. That game will get as

1923
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: much attention as any college football game will get this year.

1924
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: Texas at Ohio State, arch Manning, follow the arch Banning story,

1925
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: Let's see where it goes. Butod, hey, who's on the

1926
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: other side of the field that day? What does Ohio

1927
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: State do for na Encore this year? That to me

1928
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: is another major storyline. Now, the Buckeye started last season

1929
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest stories in the sport because

1930
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,639
Speaker 1: they spent twenty million dollars and they had this robster

1931
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 1: full of rock stars, with a bunch of high profile

1932
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: portal additions, a bunch of NFL draft choices, and they

1933
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: had guys that could have went to the NFL they kept.

1934
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: So look, they started out doing what they should have done.

1935
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: They blew out Akron. We blew out Akron, but then

1936
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: they lost to Oregon. But then they beat Oregon and oh,

1937
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 1: by the way, they ate it up and they loust

1938
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 1: to Michigan, but then they ended up winning it all. Okay,

1939
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:45,959
Speaker 1: the reality created as much a drama as an excitement

1940
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: for some as the height if you look at if

1941
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 1: you if you remember that late game drama in the

1942
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 1: early season lost at Oregon and the defensive stands that

1943
01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 1: they had to survive their extremely competitive contest against Penn State,

1944
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: and ultimately the Michigan lost and the flag planed fiasco.

1945
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: And I know there were thoughts that Irvin or that

1946
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: checked that that Ryan Day might be let go. No

1947
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: chance that was never gonna happen. I know things got

1948
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:19,719
Speaker 1: hot for him very but they would have completely pissed

1949
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: away at a tremendous recruiting class coming in for the

1950
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 1: twenty five season, So that was never gonna happen. But boy,

1951
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 1: they finished the way they needed to credit to Ryan

1952
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,799
Speaker 1: Day their team's leadership because Ohio State, after those losses

1953
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: to Oregon and Michigan rallied and they played their best playoff.

1954
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: They played their best football when they needed to, winning

1955
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: four consecutive games against teams that were finished ninth, third, fourth,

1956
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 1: and second in the AP Top twenty five pole and

1957
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 1: got their national Championship. However, it was an America. It

1958
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: was a very emotionally draining year, and at most programs,

1959
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: the vats would there would be some buffer when it

1960
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 1: comes to expectations the following season. There certainly was a Michigan.

1961
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: Michigan fans, they have to admit it. They gave last

1962
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 1: season the mulligan. I don't know how much better Michigan's

1963
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 1: going to be this year. It's a conversation for a

1964
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:16,719
Speaker 1: different day. But Ohio State is not most programs because

1965
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: highly subjective fan expectations are that the Buckeye should be

1966
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: in the National Championship game every year. So as you

1967
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 1: prepare for this upcoming season, Ohio State currently the co favorite. Coincidentally,

1968
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,600
Speaker 1: with Texas their first opponent to win the National Championship,

1969
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: they're both six to one. Despite the Buckeyes having lost

1970
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator, their defensive coordinator, and they sent fourteen

1971
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: guys in the NFL. So what we want you to

1972
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: do it again?

1973
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 2: Now?

1974
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State still arguably does have the best offensive skill player.

1975
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: Their wide receiver Jeremiah Smith and their defensive back Caleb

1976
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,719
Speaker 1: Downs probably two of the best players in the country.

1977
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: But now they're going to deal with the next man

1978
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: up mentality. They've got a lot of highly they recruited,

1979
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: highly touted players who have that potential word, and now

1980
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: they're going to be thrown into the fire in a

1981
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: bigger role with one thing in mind, compete for a

1982
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: title that will be the huge storyline for the defending champs.

1983
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:23,559
Speaker 1: Can they answer the call again with a decidedly different roster? Yeah?

1984
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 1: Oh bye. By the way, if I could only see

1985
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 1: one Ohio State game this year, I'm sorry because I

1986
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 1: covered ten of them, it would be November twenty ninth

1987
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: in ann Arbor. Because winning a national championship certainly took

1988
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the bad taste in their mouth out

1989
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: of their mouth, but not all of it. It just

1990
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 1: can't if you understand that rivalry which started as a

1991
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 1: land war over one hundred years ago. Look Michigan fans,

1992
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 1: and they have their right to do.

1993
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 3: This.

1994
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 1: Will remind Ohio State fans every day twice in three

1995
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: times on Sunday that Michigan is riding a four game

1996
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 1: winning streak and clearly college football's biggest rivalry, which means

1997
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: Johiose State as a four game losing streak in that rivalry.

1998
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: So the storylines abound. How will the national champs do

1999
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: for an encore? Now, Georgia and Alabama, you may find

2000
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 1: it interesting to know that you already I'm sure know

2001
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 1: this that every single season since twenty fourteen, either Bama

2002
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: or Georgia has played for the SEC championship. Matter of fact,

2003
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: they've played each other three times, and only once in

2004
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: that stretch was the SEC title not won by either

2005
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Alabama or Georgia. Now, Georgia continued that streak last year

2006
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: by beating Texas in overtime, but it went off a

2007
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 1: cliff after that point. Georgia may have won the SEC

2008
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 1: under Kirby Smart for the third time, but then they

2009
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 1: were one and done in the College Football Playoff and

2010
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 1: that left a very bad taste. There was an injury

2011
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: to Carson Beck in the NCC title game and that

2012
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 1: changed everything. And he's not even there anymore. Beck transferred

2013
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: to Miami. First he declared for the NFL draft, Then

2014
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: he transferred to Miami, and there were lots of portal exits, editions,

2015
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 1: draft exits, and look, it's hard. It's good to be

2016
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 1: the King, but it's hard to stay there. Okay. Georgia

2017
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: is a program that actually went forty two to zero

2018
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 1: against everybody not named Alabama for three straight seasons. But

2019
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,640
Speaker 1: even though they won the SEC title last year, there

2020
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 1: were more losses. They had three losses, that's the most

2021
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: the Georgia team has had in seven years, and again

2022
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 1: the bad loss in the playoff, at least for Georgia fans.

2023
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 1: So will Georgia be able to bounce back to a

2024
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: foreman twenty twenty five and they've got a roster change

2025
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 1: Alabama situation. I think Alabama's going to be really good

2026
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 1: this year, but their situation's different, and they had to

2027
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 1: really adjust to life without Nick Saban and I think

2028
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: a lot of Kaitlyn de Boor, but he showed moments.

2029
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: Alabama still showed moments last year where they could flex

2030
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 1: their muscles and beat the top programs, but they also

2031
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 1: had a nine to four record, and that's direct to

2032
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:19,480
Speaker 1: Alabama fans. The problem Alabama had last year was inconsistency.

2033
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: They just couldn't put one success on top of another

2034
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,719
Speaker 1: like they used to. And you know, listen, they didn't

2035
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 1: play for the SEC title, they didn't get a chance

2036
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: to go to the College Football Playoff. And yes they

2037
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 1: did beat Georgia early in the year, but that followed

2038
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:40,640
Speaker 1: up the following week by losing to Vanderbilt. Then they

2039
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: blew out LSU, and then they lost twenty four to

2040
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: three at Oklahoma. So look, it's just one of those

2041
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 1: situations where SMU, who was eleven and two and VAMA

2042
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: probably would have beaten LSU, but SMU deserved to be

2043
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 1: there in the playoff. The committee chose them over nine

2044
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 1: to three Alabama for the final large spot, and then Alabama,

2045
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 1: as you can say, is over used cliche, they added

2046
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: insult to injury with a nineteen to thirteen loss to

2047
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Michigan as a sixteen and a half point favorite. So Bama,

2048
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 1: like Georgia, clearly they're gonna hate the way that season ended.

2049
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 1: They're gonna be itching to get back on the field.

2050
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: They got a really good roster, they got a clean slate,

2051
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: and I think Kalen de Bor having a year under

2052
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 1: his belt, I do think they'll get better quarterback play

2053
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 1: than they got out of Jalen Milroll last year. Sorry

2054
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe fans, but when he gets hot and it's

2055
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 1: hard to breathe, I did not see clutch performances on

2056
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: a consistent basis. He might have been a guy he

2057
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 1: won with but not because of this battle will be

2058
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: a big story. And the thing is it's every week

2059
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: is live and die with him, Live and die, Live

2060
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: and die. Now. Two years ago, at this point, we

2061
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: were looking ahead to Colorado in their first year with

2062
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter as a twenty

2063
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 1: point underdog against TCU, and on that Labor Day weekend

2064
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 1: at a hot stadium down there, they shocked the world.

2065
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: Colorado did. If they'd have just hung in there, they

2066
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: would have won the day they went out, right. Problem

2067
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: is that created expectations. Colorado was thirteen and twelve over

2068
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: the last two years, but they did have their share

2069
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: of highlights and had their share of what Hollywood you know,

2070
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: actors hanging out on the sidelines. It's the place to be, right.

2071
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 1: Dean's done a hell of a job with that program. Okay,

2072
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 1: speaking of when you consider the fact they were one

2073
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 1: and eleven as recently as twenty twenty two. So we're

2074
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 1: gonna follow Colorado your year a week to week. This year,

2075
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: you can bet on it. I don't know how many

2076
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 1: more years. Deanna just got a nice big deal. I

2077
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 1: think it's five years fifty four. I don't know, whatever

2078
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 1: it is, I don't know how many more years will

2079
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 1: be there. Maybe he's here the rest of his life.

2080
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I will tell you this year,

2081
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:52,759
Speaker 1: no Travis Hunter, no shoot or Sanders. That aras over Colorado.

2082
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: That is another storyline. We'll be watching closely. We'll check

2083
01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 1: in week by week, just like we have the last

2084
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 1: few years. Travis Hunter randu a Heisman Trophy. Last year,

2085
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: Colorado finished in a four way attack for first place

2086
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve standings, and they had a lot

2087
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 1: of breakthroughs and they started to normalize what Colorado fans

2088
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 1: had not had since the early nineties when they had

2089
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: guys on my buddy Mike Pritchard. They have big stars

2090
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 1: or in the headset on the sideline, and they play

2091
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 1: in a power conference. But the individual's successes of Travis

2092
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: Hunter and Shadeur drew the attention away from a lot

2093
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: of the roster and even from Coach Prime. And the

2094
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: truth of the matter is there wasn't always a lot

2095
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: of talk about the game on the field as opposed

2096
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: to unorthodox methods of how Sanders, you know, Dion Coach

2097
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:49,719
Speaker 1: Prime constructed his roster. There were two really interesting things

2098
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 1: that have happened since Sanders first told a meeting room

2099
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 1: full of players that he was quote bringing his Lewis

2100
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,560
Speaker 1: unquote changed how we view that transition now, because the

2101
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 1: first and most important is Dion did produce results in

2102
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: the form of nine wins in a top twenty five

2103
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 1: finish last season. That's you gotta tip your cap two

2104
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: years before that. I mean, this is the era now

2105
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 1: in college football with the way the transfer portal and

2106
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: nil and it's a wild wild West. You can see

2107
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 1: a roster overhaul damn near overnight. But here's what's interesting.

2108
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,919
Speaker 1: You got first year coaches this year at Purdue, West Virginia,

2109
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: Central Florida, and North Carolina, and they've all got portal

2110
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: classes between thirty nine and fifty three players. Very ultimate.

2111
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:46,560
Speaker 1: At Purdue as a portal fifty three players, Rich Rodriguez

2112
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 1: fifty two. At West Virginia, it took over fifty transfers. Now,

2113
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 1: that first Colorado portal class was like a complete outlier.

2114
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: We'd never seen anything like this before. But given the

2115
01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: recent trends looking at Colorado and their willingness to be

2116
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:05,640
Speaker 1: portaled heavy in their approach, it's no longer a differentiator Colorado.

2117
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 1: They've boosted their recruiting profiles since Dion Sanders arrived, So look,

2118
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 1: let's give them the benefit of the doubt. He really

2119
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: is trying to build for the future and not just

2120
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: for this year. You have every right to Colorado to

2121
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 1: judge Colorado by the results you win or lose. Bill

2122
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Parcells said it best, you are what your record says

2123
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: you are. But without Travis Hunter's two way contribution on

2124
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 1: a Heisman Trophy winner and an exquisite playmaker Orshard or Sanders,

2125
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: who basically the NFL Draft storyline is what we're going

2126
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 1: to remember about that whole saga. Now. I think the

2127
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 1: attention is fully back on Dion Colorado's tenth on the

2128
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: odds board to win the Big Twelve. If you are

2129
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 1: feeling saucy, you can get Colorado at twenty seven to

2130
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 1: one to Big twelve. But they have a preseason win

2131
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 1: total six point five. So will they go seven and

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Speaker 1: five this year? Will they go six and six? I

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01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do. You one can hope

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01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 1: there will be a winning season. I think Travis Hunter

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01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 1: is a huge is a huge, huge, huge loss coming

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01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: up was the fifth biggest story and for some folks, hell,

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01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: they might think it's the biggest story in college football

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01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: this year. I'm not willing to say that, but I

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01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: guarantee you the students won a few football games, and

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01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a head coach of a college football

2141
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 1: team for the first time ever and win loser draw.

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01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a lot of eyes on them. What's

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01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: the fifth biggest college football storyline heading into this year?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Coming up, I'm Bernie Frittle. We're coming

2145
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 1: to your life of the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

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01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio or back on the

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01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio County Live from the

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01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio compound. We are thirteen minutes

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01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 1: away from the dance Sensation sweep of the nation. What

2151
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 1: kind of brand new fool are you? Followed by? What

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01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 1: my name?

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01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 6: And man?

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01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: Do I have a doozy tonight from the great state

2155
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 1: of Kentucky, Wayne County to be specific. All right, so

2156
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 1: we're twenty three days away from college football. Hello everybody,

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01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 1: All right? I love Keith Jacks. You actually met him once.

2158
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 1: It was a night. I gotta tell the story. So

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01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 1: it's nineteen ninety four. I think I talked about it

2160
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 1: in my book review From the Chief Seats. Michigan's playing

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01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: Colorado that day. It's a day that Cordell Stewart, on

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01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 1: the last play of the game, through the ball about

2163
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: seventy yards to Michael Westbrook caught the ball in the

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01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 1: enzoe beat Michigan. One hundred thousand fans went silent. Ironically,

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01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 1: Michael Westbrook was from Detroit. He comes back to Michigan

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01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 1: and Colorado beats him. I think that was the last

2167
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: year Bill McCartney coached, and I think I'm not sure.

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01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 1: Here's the story. So Keith Jackson's in the press box

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01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: and I'd only had my credential three months. I think

2170
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 1: the first well, the first event I covered was June seventeenth,

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01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, which was the Toronto Blue Jays and

2172
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: the Detroit Tigers. That was the night of the infamous

2173
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 1: white Bronco chase, which we all watched on monitors in

2174
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: the press box with no sound. But I digress. So

2175
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 1: I see Keith Jackson and I walk over to him,

2176
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: and he's standing right there, larger in life. And I

2177
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: shake his hand and I said, mister Jackson, I love

2178
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 1: the way you talk. What a dork? I can't, I

2179
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 1: said it. I did it, mister Jackson, I love the

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01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 1: way you talk. He looked at me, he says, well,

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01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: we've red talk funny, bo, we don't think funny. And

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01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 1: that was it, man, And I felt like, you know,

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01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I felt like someone just knife me

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01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 1: and metal shop. But you live and learn. So the

2185
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 1: big college football stories arch manning. It begins for Texas,

2186
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: who will contend for a title? And they open up

2187
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: at Ohio State? Ohio State? What about their on core?

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01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:16,560
Speaker 1: And will they beat Michigan No. Number twenty ninth? And

2189
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 1: can they come back with a lot of next man

2190
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 1: up players even though they do have a couple of

2191
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 1: stunts Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs. Georgia and Alabama, they

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01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: will be a story. They are still the patriarchal front

2193
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 1: runners of the SEC. Every single year for twelve years,

2194
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: either Bama or Georgia has played for the SEC title.

2195
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 1: Remember Georgia won it last year they beat Texas and

2196
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 1: then faltered in the playoffs. How do Georgia and Alabama

2197
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 1: respond to the disappointments of the last season the next one,

2198
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: and this is big the post Travis Hunter, Shadoor Sanders

2199
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 1: Eric Colorado, the temperature will get hot again. The focus

2200
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: will be squarely on coach prime. How would they do?

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01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: What would their one lost record be? But the fifth

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01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 1: biggest story, and these are in no particular order, but

2203
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: I think this for some might be the biggest. Bill

2204
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 1: Belichick takes over at North Carolina and some jokingly are

2205
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 1: calling is quote the thirty third NFL team. Are they

2206
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: gonna win games? Their schedules are not that daunting. But

2207
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:24,520
Speaker 1: here's what's interesting. When Dion Sanders showed up at Colorado,

2208
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 1: he brought his son who had had success at Jackson

2209
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 1: State and he was an NFL caliber quarterback, and he

2210
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 1: brought an eventual Heisman Trophy winner in Travis Hunter. The

2211
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 1: two sons Belichick brought or his own sons on the

2212
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: defensive staff, got the old band together with a bunch

2213
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 1: of old coaching connections, and he's got this vision to

2214
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 1: run this college program like a pro program. Now it's

2215
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: gaining attention, Okay, And it's been about six months since

2216
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: the Internetry Press conference, which I thought was a little

2217
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 1: clunky we have no idea of is exactly what the

2218
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: hell this team is going to look like. When North

2219
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: Carolina takes the field on Labor Day against TCU, the

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01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: coincidence is not lost on me. Deon Sanders, Travis Hunter,

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01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: and Shudoor Sanders made their debut at TCU, who'd been

2222
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 1: in the National Championship the year before. TCU was a

2223
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 1: twenty point favorite and Colorado shocked the world, and that

2224
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 1: just said everything going. Colorado was only twelve and twelve

2225
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: after that point in two years, but they had a

2226
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 1: lot of highlight reel you know, sightings as it were.

2227
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: So look, there's been a lot of transfer portals, ins

2228
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: and outs, and there's they've got their own depth chart

2229
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 1: and where they practice and how they act and prepare

2230
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 1: like a pro. They got a general manager by the

2231
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: name of Michael Lombardi, and he says their team will

2232
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 1: be tough, says they'll be good in the middle of

2233
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 1: the field. Says they're going to try to emulate SEC

2234
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 1: teams that produce more players than any other conference. I'm

2235
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: sure they'll block and tackle well. I have no idea

2236
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 1: the talent level they have, and there's been no player

2237
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: availability of the media no number. I understand there's no

2238
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 1: numbers on jerseys during open sessions, and so many movie

2239
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 1: in pieces on the roster, there's no way to really know.

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Speaker 1: I talked to professional handicappers. They're kind of in lockstep

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01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 1: that Colorado's not going to have a great year. They're

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01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 1: like maybe a six to seven win team. Maybe I

2243
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 1: don't know, but if you listen to Belichick's comments at

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01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 1: spring meetings, check that or the ACC spring meetings a

2245
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: few months ago. Look, he is in his own way.

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01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 1: He says he's going to have this team prepared, and

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01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 1: they've probably been preparing, you know, since day one. And

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01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: the way he prepares so he doesn't have a Tom

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01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: Brady and you know, all pro defense like he had

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Speaker 1: New England all those years. We'll see by the way,

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01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: one last thing, well, Penn State finally break through, and

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01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean breakthrough by winning the whole damn thing. They've

2253
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 1: been teasing everybody since Moby Dick was a mino. This

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01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 1: is their air, this is the year, and they stink

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Speaker 1: it up and they lose the Michigan every year, and

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01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 1: they lose their Ohio State And this year they made

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01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 1: a pretty good run. They got to the semi finals.

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01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 1: They beat Boise State, they'd be Look, the Nidney Allions

2259
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 1: are among the three most likely teams to win the

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01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 1: Big Ten, along with Ohio State in Oregon. But you

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01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 1: still gotta do it. Okay, it's not bold to say

2262
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: Penn State will be good. They have all the pieces

2263
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 1: in place. I think James Franklin's a good coach. But

2264
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 1: you just don't escape that what three and twelve record

2265
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 1: against top five teams or whatever the hell it is.

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01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 1: So that's another story as well, and that's not the

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01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: only one. These are the ones I think we'll be

2268
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 1: talking about most tell you what we're gonna be talking

2269
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: about most of lock coming up? What kind of brand

2270
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: from fool of you? Followed by what my name? Keep

2271
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 1: it locked? Or listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on

2272
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, that's richer. Heard the man the

2273
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Bernie Frattle Show keeps for Roland right along. My name

2274
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 1: is Bernie Froanter. We are come to your line from

2275
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio compound here in Las Vegas. It's

2276
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 1: been a rock as show on I once again think

2277
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: all the phenomenal callers are in the midnight hour. As

2278
01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 1: we talked about the likes of the WNBA CBA and

2279
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: the All Star Game debacle, which should have been a

2280
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 1: celebration turned into a conversation, which makes it feel like

2281
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 1: the popularity the WNBA is deflating faster than a T

2282
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 1: on a breast implant. But that's a conversation for a

2283
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: different day. We also talked about Hulk Hogan, his legacy

2284
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 1: and you know the NFL players, one hundred of them,

2285
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 1: along with league official employees selling their allotment of Super

2286
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 1: Bowl tickets out of profit. Great callers tonight, But we've

2287
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: come to that juncture in the show You Know What

2288
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 1: You Love You Candley, without it the dance sensation sweep

2289
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,280
Speaker 1: in the nation. See because as Yogi Berra once said,

2290
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: you can observe a lot by watching, and we do

2291
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 1: because every day around this's great land of ours, from

2292
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 1: sea to oily sea, and even around the globe, the planet,

2293
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 1: the universe. Well, people they like to engage in things, okay, activities,

2294
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: sometimes embarrassing, stupid, nefarious activities. Maybe sometimes they're harmless, other

2295
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 1: times they're more serious. Many times they are illegal lacks

2296
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 1: that could even land you in jail. But anyway you

2297
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 1: slice it, anyway you describe it anyway you characterize it.

2298
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 1: Every one of these behaviors always always leaves us scratching

2299
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 1: our head and asking ourselves, what kind of brand new

2300
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: fool are you? So? What kind of brand new fool

2301
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 1: are you? This one is a beauty. I don't even

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01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 1: know where to start, so I'll just start by saying,

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01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 1: we take you to Wayne County, Kentucky. And they say,

2304
01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:00,440
Speaker 1: the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Imagine

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02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: giving your mother a Mother's Day gift and that sparks

2306
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 1: a string of circumstances which land you in jail. Can't

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02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: make this stuff up, folks, We could, but we don't

2308
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 1: do that. These are actually real stories. It starts by

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02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 1: a young man. His name is Jacob. His name is Jacob,

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02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: won't give his last name this time. And recently, on

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Speaker 1: Mother's Day, he decided he would give his mother a present.

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Speaker 1: And you know what's a typical Mother's Day gift? You

2313
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:40,840
Speaker 1: know how flowers, nice meal, gift, jewelry, clothes. No, he

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02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: got her an Xbox controller. Yeah, Jacob got his mom

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02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 1: an x Box controller. What mom wouldn't be thrilled about

2316
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:53,120
Speaker 1: getting an x Box controller? And that's where the fun

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02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 1: really begins. I don't know what the hell happened from there,

2318
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 1: but but Jacob's mother and another female got into an

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02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:09,760
Speaker 1: argument with the aforementioned Jacob, which led to Jacob's arrest.

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02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: Why because the young man decided to really have a

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Speaker 1: walloping Mother's Day celebration, and since he was twenty two

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02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 1: years old himself, he decided, what the hell, I'd pull

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Speaker 1: out a twenty two caliber rifle and shoot my mom. Yes,

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02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 1: young Jacob shot his mother on Mother's Day because something

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Speaker 1: happened having to do with an argument about getting an

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Speaker 1: xbox for Mother's Day. According to the Sheriff's office, actually,

2327
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 1: the mother and another female were trying to leave the

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Speaker 1: home when young Jacob fired the twenty two year old

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02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:55,280
Speaker 1: or check out, he's twenty two years old, and he

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Speaker 1: fired at twenty two caliber rifle into the vehicle, hitting

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Speaker 1: his mother and then small young man. He actually led

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Speaker 1: the deputy to the rifle that was used in the incident.

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02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 1: Because according to the Sheriff's office, the mother was treated

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02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 1: at Wayne County Hospital then transferred to UK Hospital for

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Speaker 1: further treatment. Her condition is unknown, but mister Jacob of

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02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 1: Mancella was arrested charged with murder domestic violence, attempted assault

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02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 1: first degree, domestic violence, criminal initiative second degree, and he

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Speaker 1: was booked in the Wayne County Divention Center. Mister Jacob

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Speaker 1: of Monticello, Wayne County, Kentucky, Happy Mother's Day? What kind

2340
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 1: of brand new fool? Are you all right? Brandon? You

2341
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 1: had your what kind of brand new fool debut last

2342
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 1: week and did great? What have you got for us tonight?

2343
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,680
Speaker 18: Well, Bernie, I'm gonna take you back to Florida, because

2344
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 18: why not? When we can't go anywhere else? All you

2345
02:02:55,440 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 18: gotta do never failed, look up, Florida never fails. So

2346
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 18: we go to I believe this is how you pronounce it.

2347
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 18: Now forgive me if we have any listeners that live

2348
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 18: here Va Lucilla County in Vlusha, I think, okay, okay,

2349
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 18: I want to say dumb, but yeah, Vlusha County. A

2350
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 18: woman eighteen years old who was unill. They don't have

2351
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 18: a name. They didn't give a name, but an unnamed

2352
02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 18: woman is facing charges in Vlusha County after she vandalized

2353
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:31,120
Speaker 18: a car that she thought belonged to her ex boyfriend.

2354
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:33,400
Speaker 18: But guess what, Bernie, it.

2355
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:34,640
Speaker 1: Was the wrong car.

2356
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:39,840
Speaker 18: How was that even possible? When so deputy said, they

2357
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 18: responded to a vandalism call overnight along Grammercy Drive in

2358
02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 18: del Tone about a young woman spray painting a vehicle.

2359
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:49,080
Speaker 18: When the deputies got there, they found an eighteen year

2360
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,480
Speaker 18: old and a sixteen year old girl. Investigator said the

2361
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 18: younger girl had yellow spray paint on her sweatpants. When question,

2362
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 18: the eighteen year old admitted she was upset with her

2363
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 18: ex boyfriend and decided to spray paint to throw eggs

2364
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 18: at what she thought was his vehicle. The release reads, Unfortunately,

2365
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 18: the vehicle in question belonged to a neighbor, not her

2366
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 18: ex boyfriend, and according to the arrest the eighteen year

2367
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 18: old deputies told deputies that our ex boyfriend owned owed

2368
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 18: her seven hundred dollars, which is what spurred the active vegeance.

2369
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:25,560
Speaker 18: So I have to say, random eighteen year old woman

2370
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 18: trying to spray paint her ex boyfriend's vehicle but ended

2371
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 18: up being a neighbor's what kind of brand new fool

2372
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 18: are you?

2373
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, just throwing eggs into Vehicle's bad enough for me,

2374
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 1: especially with the price of eggs, right.

2375
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:40,240
Speaker 18: Exactly?

2376
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that will conclude another rousing edition of

2377
02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 1: what kind of brand new fool are you, which now

2378
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 1: allows us to save way into our second favorite bit,

2379
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:56,080
Speaker 1: which we lovingly referred to as what my name? And

2380
02:04:56,240 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 1: here we go? All right, I'm a current NFL calls quarterback,

2381
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:03,360
Speaker 1: and among all rookies in the history of the NFL,

2382
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:09,400
Speaker 1: I actually have the record for most consecutive passes without

2383
02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 1: an interception for all rookie quarterbacks. Mark Ramsey, what my name,

2384
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:23,320
Speaker 1: here's a clue, I'm in the NFC North is it?

2385
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 6: Is it?

2386
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 18: Caleb?

2387
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 1: It is, in fact Caleb Williams. I believe he actually

2388
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:35,120
Speaker 1: had the record last year. I forgot what the number was,

2389
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:37,200
Speaker 1: might have been like one hundred and sixty years. Somebody

2390
02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 1: can maybe correct me, the most consecutive passes without an

2391
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 1: interception without all rookies. Moving on, well, basketball is kind

2392
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 1: of in its law season right now. The NBA Summer

2393
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 1: league's over and free agencies over and you know it'll

2394
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 1: be here before too long. But why not have what

2395
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:02,120
Speaker 1: my name question evolving? Bass? You see, because I'm a

2396
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: very noteworthy player, but I actually have committed more turnovers

2397
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:12,880
Speaker 1: in the history of anybody in the NBA. Brandon, what

2398
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 1: my name? And here's a clue. I'm still active I'm

2399
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:16,600
Speaker 1: still playing.

2400
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 18: Is it Lebron nicely done?

2401
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 1: It's Lebron James. It's actually Lebron James's turned the ball

2402
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 1: over more than anybody an anstry of the NBA Lebron Jiles.

2403
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:37,640
Speaker 1: All right, well, we've got some great pitchy performances happening

2404
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 1: in the major leagues. His yuar. Even though Tarrek's school

2405
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 1: lost to Toronto Saturday Night the Tigers, he may win

2406
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 1: a Sally Young. Guess what? I was the last back

2407
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 1: to back cy Young winner in the American League back

2408
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine and two thousand. Mark Ramsey what

2409
02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:00,720
Speaker 1: my name? And a lot of people might remember me

2410
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 1: from grabbing Don's inver by the head and throwing him

2411
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 1: to the ground. What my name? Oh?

2412
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 18: I know he has a brother. I forget his own biz.

2413
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:15,120
Speaker 18: I forgot his name.

2414
02:07:15,160 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 1: I forgot It's okay, It's okay, all right, moving on.

2415
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm the last pitcher to win back to back Siang

2416
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 1: Awards in the American League. Did it back in nineteen

2417
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 1: ninety nine? In two thousand, I made most of my

2418
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 1: bones with the Red Sox. Uh Brandon, what my name?

2419
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 18: I believe this is Pedro Martinez of the Boston Red Sox,

2420
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 18: and you believe right.

2421
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:40,200
Speaker 1: It is in fact Pedro Martinez. So you guys are

2422
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:43,959
Speaker 1: free for fee. So far, well, not to be outdone.

2423
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 1: This one's a little tougher. I'm the last National League

2424
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:51,600
Speaker 1: pitcher to win back to back signing awards. I did

2425
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:58,080
Speaker 1: it back in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. Mark Ramsey,

2426
02:07:58,160 --> 02:07:59,960
Speaker 1: what my name? Here's a clue, I'm on a prime

2427
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:03,240
Speaker 1: comminent National League East team, or I was on a

2428
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 1: prominent National League East team when I did this.

2429
02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 9: Is it?

2430
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:14,920
Speaker 1: He might have the same first name as my protagonist

2431
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:16,720
Speaker 1: in the brand new fool segment.

2432
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,440
Speaker 18: I want to guess in is it? Sure's there?

2433
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 1: It's good guest? Was not Max Srzy, not Max Sures,

2434
02:08:23,400 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 1: not not Mets? Okay, it's good guests Pedro Martit? Okay,

2435
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:28,520
Speaker 1: I'll check that was he was the al Okay, So

2436
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm the last NL pitcher to went back to back

2437
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:33,080
Speaker 1: setting and ward winners. Did it in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.

2438
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 1: I'll give a little better clue. That was a good guess, though.

2439
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:41,160
Speaker 1: Marcus Schuzer had some time with the Mets. Brandy what

2440
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:45,520
Speaker 1: my name? And uh I did it with the Mets.

2441
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:49,120
Speaker 18: Yeah, this is a guy who should be finishing top

2442
02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:51,640
Speaker 18: three in al Cy Young voting this year for the

2443
02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 18: Texas Rangers. And a comeback. I believe it is Jacob

2444
02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:54,720
Speaker 18: de Grom.

2445
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:57,360
Speaker 1: Wow, well done, well done. It is Jacob de Gram

2446
02:08:57,440 --> 02:09:00,880
Speaker 1: And I remember when Texas arrested him two years ago,

2447
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:03,240
Speaker 1: sham on me. I was a little critical of the

2448
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:07,240
Speaker 1: move because they needed bullpen. That was Bruce Bochie's year

2449
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:10,880
Speaker 1: and they won it all and I and they got

2450
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:13,840
Speaker 1: a starter whos some comeback is a good word because

2451
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:17,440
Speaker 1: there was no question. But he's proved us wrong. So good.

2452
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 1: You guys are four for four, all right. I'm the

2453
02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 1: last Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher to win back to back

2454
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 1: Signing Award winners. I did it in twenty thirteen and

2455
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Mark Ramsey went my name, and I just

2456
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:38,920
Speaker 1: set a record recently for strikeouts. I'm a leftander, a

2457
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 1: very popular player.

2458
02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:43,959
Speaker 18: It's got to be the Saint Louis Cartinal's favorite person. Kershaw.

2459
02:09:44,920 --> 02:09:48,800
Speaker 1: Nicely done, Clayton Kershaw. God, it seems like he's been

2460
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 1: around forever.

2461
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:54,600
Speaker 18: Great guy, what a career, and Saint Louis just loves

2462
02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 18: him to death.

2463
02:09:57,680 --> 02:10:01,360
Speaker 1: Moving along, all right, I am the first rookie rookie

2464
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:05,080
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball history to have a four home

2465
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 1: run game. Brandon, what my name? Here's a good clue.

2466
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 1: Just a year ago, I was playing first base for

2467
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 1: wake Forest University.

2468
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 18: Yeah, this is I believe they call him the big

2469
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:20,160
Speaker 18: amish Nick Nicholas Kurtz.

2470
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:25,920
Speaker 1: Nick Kurtz, Right, my buddy, my buddy, Larry Sorenson, ten

2471
02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 1: year major league pitcher. Larry's been on this show many times.

2472
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:31,480
Speaker 1: He's part of the broadcast team of Wake Forest. He

2473
02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:33,360
Speaker 1: told me about Nick first Nick Kurtz a couple of

2474
02:10:33,400 --> 02:10:34,720
Speaker 1: years ago. By the way, I think their last three

2475
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:38,120
Speaker 1: first basement I've gotten to the big leagues. This guy

2476
02:10:38,160 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 1: had thirty three games in the minor leagues and he's

2477
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:42,160
Speaker 1: just raking. They're gonna have to find a higher league

2478
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 1: for him. Just unreal. And I don't know if you

2479
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 1: guys saw the highlights. He almost had a fifth home run.

2480
02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 1: He went over the top on the top of the wall.

2481
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:54,560
Speaker 1: He got six hits, eight RBIs and it did you know,

2482
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:57,920
Speaker 1: nineteen total bases sam as Sean Green did in twenty

2483
02:10:57,960 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 1: oh two, but he had one more RBI. Incredible, six hits,

2484
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:06,520
Speaker 1: eight RBIs four home runs and almost had a fifth.

2485
02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:11,160
Speaker 1: While we're on the subject, I have hit eleven home

2486
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 1: runs in July. That is more than any other player

2487
02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:20,680
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. Mark Ramsey, what my name? Here's

2488
02:11:20,680 --> 02:11:24,800
Speaker 1: a clue. I played for the Philadelphia Phillies, but I

2489
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:27,240
Speaker 1: used to play for a hometown where you used to live.

2490
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:31,720
Speaker 18: Mark, is it the Schweber It is Schwarber, Kryle, Schwarber.

2491
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 1: Ride of Indiana. All right, let's wrap it up with

2492
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 1: one more. The nfls. They're in camp and by this

2493
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 1: time next week already played a game, albeit the Hall

2494
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:55,080
Speaker 1: of Fame game. But you've got the Lions in the

2495
02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:59,280
Speaker 1: Chargers Thursday night, and then this is the last This

2496
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:02,360
Speaker 1: is the last week and with no football. So speaking

2497
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:08,680
Speaker 1: of that, along active NFL coaches who haven't won a

2498
02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:13,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I've won more games than any other of

2499
02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 1: those coaches. So I'm a current NFL head coach that

2500
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:20,920
Speaker 1: have won more games than any of the group of

2501
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 1: coaches who's never won the Super Bowl. Brandon what my name?

2502
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:27,960
Speaker 1: And here's a clue. I coach in the NFC North.

2503
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, this this one is very You're gonna get

2504
02:12:34,680 --> 02:12:36,040
Speaker 1: this by process of elimination.

2505
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:39,320
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, NFC North. It's not Kevin O'Connell. It's not

2506
02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 18: Matt Lafleur, it's not Ben Johnson, so it's gotta be

2507
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:46,520
Speaker 18: Dan Campbell.

2508
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:49,720
Speaker 1: I like the way you did that, but I liked,

2509
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:53,800
Speaker 1: but it's not Dan Campbell. And yeah, you may be

2510
02:12:53,920 --> 02:12:57,040
Speaker 1: kicking yourself, but it's okay, fair enough. I'll tighten it

2511
02:12:57,120 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 1: up in a minute. I am a active head coach

2512
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL, never won a Super Bowl, but I

2513
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 1: won more games than any other head coach in the

2514
02:13:07,480 --> 02:13:09,840
Speaker 1: NFL at this time. Who's never won a Super Bowl?

2515
02:13:10,160 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 1: Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2516
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 19: And you said NFC right, NFC North, And I was thinking,

2517
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:20,879
Speaker 19: it's the guy who coaches the Packers.

2518
02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 1: It is the guy that coaches the Packers.

2519
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:26,280
Speaker 6: Is that his name?

2520
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:31,240
Speaker 1: Yep, believe it or not. And Brandon. So what's interesting

2521
02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:36,000
Speaker 1: is Matt Lafleur has been there since twenty nineteen and

2522
02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:43,360
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell his first year with the Lions as a

2523
02:13:43,400 --> 02:13:45,840
Speaker 1: head coach was twenty twenty one, so Matt Lafleur had

2524
02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 1: a two year head start on him.

2525
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:51,320
Speaker 18: Lafloora is more wins than Kyle Shanahan as a head coach.

2526
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 1: I believes, well, unless my research is wrong, I believe

2527
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:58,560
Speaker 1: that Matt Lafleur, among active NFL coaches, has the most.

2528
02:13:58,800 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's crazy.

2529
02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:02,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you know what, correct me if I'm wrong. I

2530
02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:03,760
Speaker 1: get one wrong every now and then.

2531
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:06,480
Speaker 18: No, No, I mean, I just know that Kyle as

2532
02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 18: a Niners fan, die hard.

2533
02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:08,200
Speaker 8: I know that.

2534
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 18: You know he's won a bazillion playoff games and games

2535
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:13,200
Speaker 18: in the regular season. But I think laflor has had

2536
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,800
Speaker 18: more consistency, right, Like they win nine or ten games

2537
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 18: every year. Niners are kind of twelve.

2538
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:21,640
Speaker 1: One, Like I want to say I had the number

2539
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:28,840
Speaker 1: sixty six games something like that. You listen, I'm willing

2540
02:14:28,920 --> 02:14:33,040
Speaker 1: to be corrected. I could be wrong. That's a good catch,

2541
02:14:34,160 --> 02:14:36,240
Speaker 1: and I could have this wrong. So I have to

2542
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to probably have to look this up

2543
02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:43,320
Speaker 1: to see what his record is as a head coach.

2544
02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:49,080
Speaker 1: But Kyle Shanahan has been with the Niners since the

2545
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen season. Now, I know, in twenty eighteen they

2546
02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:56,720
Speaker 1: only won four games. They've had a couple of stinky years,

2547
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:59,840
Speaker 1: so I'd have to look it up. But I think

2548
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:05,600
Speaker 1: I think, well, he's won seventy regular season games and

2549
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:11,880
Speaker 1: Let's see what Matt Lafleur has won. Shame on me,

2550
02:15:12,280 --> 02:15:16,880
Speaker 1: but I should know this and I could be wrong,

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Speaker 1: So good catch. Let's see apparently Matt Lafleur. Now you're right,

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur has won sixty seven games. And it's funny

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Speaker 1: because he's finished first three times, second and third. All right,

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Speaker 1: There We're back in the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: There's a few I use the term hot seat, but

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02:16:50,720 --> 02:16:55,400
Speaker 1: perhaps under the white hot spotlight is more appropriate. There's

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Speaker 1: a handful of quarterbacks that I believe media outlets are

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02:16:58,959 --> 02:17:00,720
Speaker 1: going to be watching every movie. And I'm gonna start

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02:17:00,760 --> 02:17:04,480
Speaker 1: with Sam Donald. It's interesting coming off the sensational year

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02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:07,440
Speaker 1: he had Minnesota. They say for the playoff debacle, the

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02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:11,160
Speaker 1: poor guy got hit more than Rocky Balboa. He's only

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02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:13,640
Speaker 1: got a one year deal in Seattle as a practical

2584
02:17:13,680 --> 02:17:16,840
Speaker 1: matter at Seahawks say they like Jalen Milroe. We'll see,

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02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:19,800
Speaker 1: but Sam Donald's really gonna have to play well to

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02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:22,200
Speaker 1: secure his status for twenty twenty six. So he's very

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02:17:22,280 --> 02:17:27,000
Speaker 1: much under the white hot spotlight. Same with JJ McCarthy

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02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:31,240
Speaker 1: or the Vikings. Sam Donald's old team. He's getting a

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02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:35,279
Speaker 1: shot to play. A knee injury wiped out his rookie season,

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02:17:36,040 --> 02:17:39,039
Speaker 1: But I'm guessing anything under an outright disaster will pretty

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02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:42,480
Speaker 1: much ensure his status for twenty twenty six. At worst,

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Speaker 1: I think maybe they'd bring in a vetter and they'd

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02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:47,560
Speaker 1: have to compete with. But he is going to be

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02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:52,760
Speaker 1: under the white hot spotlight spotlight. Fair How about Russell

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02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:55,560
Speaker 1: Wilson of the Giants if he's the Week one starter,

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Speaker 1: which I believe you will. I know Jackson Dart I

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02:17:58,680 --> 02:18:01,320
Speaker 1: believe eventually will live up to his first round draft stock.

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02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:05,240
Speaker 1: The clock is gonna be ticking on Russell Wilson immediately. Okay.

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02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:08,360
Speaker 1: In two thousand and four, the Giants benched Kurt Warner

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02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:11,840
Speaker 1: after nine games for Eli Manning. Yes they did, even

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02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:13,680
Speaker 1: though the Giants were five and four at the time.

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Speaker 1: So when Jackson Dart is ready, Dart's gonna play. Even

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Speaker 1: if Wilson makes it through this year without getting benched,

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02:18:20,800 --> 02:18:23,120
Speaker 1: it's stopfield. He'll beat out Dart in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: So the white hot spotlight very much on Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: About the sixty million dollar man, Dak Prescott, He's not

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Speaker 1: on a hot seat, but he's on the white hot

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02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:36,199
Speaker 1: sunlight hot seat because you pay a guy sixty million

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02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:39,200
Speaker 1: a year. That's not only reeks havoc on the salary cap.

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Speaker 1: If they were to cut or trade him, he has

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Speaker 1: a no trade clause, but he can wave it. The

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02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:47,200
Speaker 1: complication is that the forty five million dollars salary for

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02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:50,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day

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Speaker 1: of the league year. So they're stuck with this guy now.

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02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:56,039
Speaker 1: Really it's because Jerry waited too long to pay him,

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02:18:56,480 --> 02:18:58,960
Speaker 1: but the guy doesn't win. I also think, you know

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Speaker 1: Smith is on the white hot spotlight because he's got

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02:19:04,920 --> 02:19:07,320
Speaker 1: eighteen and a half million in guarantees. He has close

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02:19:07,400 --> 02:19:10,320
Speaker 1: times to beat Carol. But you're gonna want you want

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Speaker 1: all this hype to end up in six wins, five wins.

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02:19:13,800 --> 02:19:15,440
Speaker 1: I think you might have to put Trevor Lawrence in

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02:19:15,480 --> 02:19:18,720
Speaker 1: the same category. Now, every new coach wants his own quarterback,

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02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:21,320
Speaker 1: except when you inherit somebody like you know, Peyton Manning.

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02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:24,680
Speaker 1: But it's not clear whether Lawrence is on the short

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02:19:24,720 --> 02:19:26,880
Speaker 1: list of franchise quarterbacks. He was on track to b

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02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:29,320
Speaker 1: one three years ago, but the past two years haven't

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02:19:29,360 --> 02:19:31,520
Speaker 1: been good enough and they got a new coach and

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02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:34,520
Speaker 1: Liam Cole and who's an offensive genies who like Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: If Lawrence doesn't play it better in twenty twenty five,

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02:19:38,040 --> 02:19:40,840
Speaker 1: he may be out. I could go on with you know,

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02:19:40,959 --> 02:19:43,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson's and all the Bratt Browns

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02:19:43,879 --> 02:19:47,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and Tua and Justin Fields. But let's face it.

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02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:50,240
Speaker 1: You know, if your name's not Josh Allen or Patrick

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02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:55,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes or Lamar Jackson, and you're on a white hot

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02:19:55,440 --> 02:20:00,760
Speaker 1: sunlight attention span, and I guarantee you just about every

2636
02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:03,359
Speaker 1: move in the local media is going to be scrutinized.

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Speaker 1: We covered all here on the Bernie Frontal Show, including

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Speaker 1: the sport they call football but they spell at futbol.

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02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:13,279
Speaker 1: We call it soccer. It's time Chris Burfetts World Soccer.

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Speaker 3: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama.

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Speaker 6: Aim give.

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Speaker 3: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

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Speaker 19: Kind of an interesting summer we've had, Bernie here on

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02:20:35,959 --> 02:20:39,080
Speaker 19: the World of Soccer. We didn't really get a chance

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02:20:39,160 --> 02:20:42,360
Speaker 19: to talk before you were off about the arse kicking

2646
02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:45,320
Speaker 19: that Parising Jermaine, Champions of Europe, had at the FIFA

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02:20:45,440 --> 02:20:49,240
Speaker 19: Club World Cup at the hands of Chelsea and I'm

2648
02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:52,560
Speaker 19: still trying to parse that one out exactly what happened there.

2649
02:20:52,760 --> 02:20:55,440
Speaker 19: But sometimes when you just get off the skids at

2650
02:20:55,480 --> 02:20:58,560
Speaker 19: the right time, soccer is very much so a game

2651
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:01,800
Speaker 19: of meentum and Chelsea had at the entire way through.

2652
02:21:02,520 --> 02:21:07,840
Speaker 19: But summer marches on. We have the euro Women's Championship

2653
02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:12,560
Speaker 19: coming up here on Sunday morning between England and Spain,

2654
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 19: the real two powerhouses of the women's game in Europe.

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02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:19,720
Speaker 19: You can expect to see that at noon Eastern on

2656
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:24,720
Speaker 19: Big Fox. Should be one hell of a matchup there. Meanwhile,

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02:21:25,080 --> 02:21:28,200
Speaker 19: we have some interesting news out of the MLS as

2658
02:21:28,320 --> 02:21:31,760
Speaker 19: Leonel Messi has been suspended a game for not playing

2659
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:36,680
Speaker 19: in MLS's All Star game against the Liga MX All Stars,

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02:21:37,240 --> 02:21:39,840
Speaker 19: which she didn't play last year as well.

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02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:41,680
Speaker 3: This seems like a very odd idea.

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02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:45,000
Speaker 19: There was enough of a bit of an outcry, especially

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02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:47,760
Speaker 19: from people like me who are like, look, he's been

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02:21:47,879 --> 02:21:50,840
Speaker 19: voted in. I'm not sure why your all star has

2665
02:21:50,840 --> 02:21:53,120
Speaker 19: decided not to play in an all star game, especially

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02:21:53,160 --> 02:21:57,200
Speaker 19: one that you've based your entire league's persona around in

2667
02:21:57,440 --> 02:21:59,959
Speaker 19: MLS like Leonel Messi, But this is just more rare

2668
02:22:00,160 --> 02:22:04,520
Speaker 19: for Lionel Messi. As without Messi, Miami played to a

2669
02:22:04,600 --> 02:22:08,080
Speaker 19: nil nil draw against Cincinnati. But that's all really eclipse,

2670
02:22:08,160 --> 02:22:11,119
Speaker 19: because what we're talking about today is the big business

2671
02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:16,520
Speaker 19: of friendlies. And this is, don't get me wrong, friendly season.

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02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:20,080
Speaker 19: We're already getting close, like probably about a month or

2673
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:25,200
Speaker 19: change out from the European calendar. Again, this is why

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02:22:25,240 --> 02:22:28,279
Speaker 19: the Club World Cup puts such a strain on things

2675
02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:32,080
Speaker 19: because it's already coming back. We've had no time to breathe.

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02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:34,360
Speaker 19: The next year is going to be the actual World

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02:22:34,440 --> 02:22:37,080
Speaker 19: Cup too, And you'd like to say, okay, but what's

2678
02:22:37,160 --> 02:22:40,400
Speaker 19: the really the big deal about friendly As well? As

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02:22:40,959 --> 02:22:43,480
Speaker 19: Jay Z once put it, he's not a businessman. He's

2680
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:47,920
Speaker 19: a business man, and that is exactly what European soccer

2681
02:22:48,080 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 19: has become as friendlies provide the easiest way to play

2682
02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:57,120
Speaker 19: matches in other places, especially for a lot of English clubs,

2683
02:22:57,160 --> 02:22:59,320
Speaker 19: there's a lot of pressure to play a lot of

2684
02:22:59,360 --> 02:23:02,720
Speaker 19: these matches, plays like Southeastern Europe or in the case

2685
02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:05,160
Speaker 19: of this summer right now, since they were already over here.

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02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:10,199
Speaker 19: You're seeing quite a bit of matches happening in MetLife

2687
02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:13,640
Speaker 19: Stadium in East Brotherford, New Jersey, where We've had two

2688
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:18,240
Speaker 19: on Saturday, one between Bournemouth and Everton and one between

2689
02:23:18,320 --> 02:23:20,320
Speaker 19: Manchester United and West Ham United.

2690
02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:21,760
Speaker 3: This is not to say.

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02:23:21,720 --> 02:23:27,120
Speaker 19: Something of the really amazing match we really had in

2692
02:23:27,440 --> 02:23:32,280
Speaker 19: Hong Kong between Liverpool and AC Milan, a matchup that

2693
02:23:32,440 --> 02:23:35,680
Speaker 19: you'd usually expect to see in something like say the

2694
02:23:35,800 --> 02:23:40,600
Speaker 19: UEFA Champions League and instead is being played in Milan.

2695
02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:42,800
Speaker 18: Now, listen, some stars are playing.

2696
02:23:42,920 --> 02:23:47,360
Speaker 19: Cody Gagpo had a goal for Liverpool and Rust assured

2697
02:23:47,400 --> 02:23:50,960
Speaker 19: he came on to replace Mohammed Salah, their biggest stars.

2698
02:23:50,959 --> 02:23:53,320
Speaker 19: So it's not like they're only sending the practice squads

2699
02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:56,520
Speaker 19: over here or something. These are not preseason games. These

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02:23:56,560 --> 02:23:59,840
Speaker 19: are full sized games meant to put on shows for

2701
02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:06,080
Speaker 19: audiences outside of their local populations. Because they are big, big,

2702
02:24:06,320 --> 02:24:09,240
Speaker 19: big business. There's a reason why they're playing in the

2703
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:13,640
Speaker 19: United States and Hong Kong and eventually in India as well.

2704
02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:17,120
Speaker 19: I know last year the Guardian had a number that

2705
02:24:17,440 --> 02:24:21,720
Speaker 19: north of ten million dollars for Premier League clubs alone

2706
02:24:22,720 --> 02:24:26,480
Speaker 19: was the draw on when it came to holding friendlies

2707
02:24:27,000 --> 02:24:30,039
Speaker 19: in just in the United States. And of course you're

2708
02:24:30,040 --> 02:24:33,320
Speaker 19: also seeing a lot of these clubs with American investor owners,

2709
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:38,760
Speaker 19: some of them happening to be athlete owner investors as well,

2710
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 19: such as in the case of Liverpool, I know Lebron

2711
02:24:41,879 --> 02:24:44,480
Speaker 19: James himself has a bit of a stake. This is

2712
02:24:44,560 --> 02:24:46,560
Speaker 19: the time, of course, the summer is the time of

2713
02:24:46,720 --> 02:24:49,160
Speaker 19: money when it comes to the world of soccer. And

2714
02:24:49,240 --> 02:24:52,440
Speaker 19: of course we haven't even talked about the transfer window

2715
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:56,800
Speaker 19: just yet. One big name that has moved and you

2716
02:24:57,000 --> 02:24:58,960
Speaker 19: really should keep an eye on there's a lot of

2717
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:01,879
Speaker 19: rumors floating around there. We'll try to get a bigger

2718
02:25:02,480 --> 02:25:05,920
Speaker 19: picture here in the next world of soccer. But Marcus Rashford,

2719
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:11,240
Speaker 19: the brilliant English forward nominally of Manchester United. He had

2720
02:25:11,320 --> 02:25:15,000
Speaker 19: been on loan in twenty twenty five to Aston Villa

2721
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:18,720
Speaker 19: and now has another loan out as he moves to

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02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:23,160
Speaker 19: La Liga to Barcelona. Barcelona who claimed the twenty twenty

2723
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:26,600
Speaker 19: five La Liga title and would like to continue their

2724
02:25:26,680 --> 02:25:30,800
Speaker 19: dominance over hated Real Madrid. And this is a very

2725
02:25:31,040 --> 02:25:34,240
Speaker 19: fascinating loan, mostly because there is an option for a

2726
02:25:34,480 --> 02:25:39,040
Speaker 19: permanent basis valued at about thirty five million euros or

2727
02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:44,440
Speaker 19: about forty one million dollars United States. This is a

2728
02:25:44,520 --> 02:25:47,600
Speaker 19: bit surprising, I mean, granted, Manchester United's kind of in

2729
02:25:47,760 --> 02:25:50,320
Speaker 19: this basis where they kind of need the capitol and

2730
02:25:50,640 --> 02:25:53,640
Speaker 19: Rashford's not really seeing a lot of meaningful play with

2731
02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:57,480
Speaker 19: a club that finished as low as they did on

2732
02:25:57,640 --> 02:26:03,320
Speaker 19: the English table here at fifteenth, he's going to be

2733
02:26:03,400 --> 02:26:07,320
Speaker 19: twenty eighth this year. He's kind of in the last great,

2734
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:12,000
Speaker 19: golden but great years of his career. Right now he'll

2735
02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:16,200
Speaker 19: be playing for probably another World Cup for the English

2736
02:26:16,760 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 19: national team as well. Meaningful minutes with bar with a

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02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:25,000
Speaker 19: team as good as Barcelona is absolutely a great move.

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02:26:25,240 --> 02:26:28,760
Speaker 19: It is also, however, a bit of a honor blow

2739
02:26:29,320 --> 02:26:33,480
Speaker 19: to Manchester United, who has to give up someone who

2740
02:26:33,560 --> 02:26:37,600
Speaker 19: has been as fantastic for the English team to a

2741
02:26:37,640 --> 02:26:42,160
Speaker 19: Spanish club. But that's the way it goes. That wraps

2742
02:26:42,240 --> 02:26:44,520
Speaker 19: up the world of soccer. Bernie will see you next week.

2743
02:26:44,959 --> 02:26:46,360
Speaker 19: Stay safe out there, folks.

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Speaker 1: There we have it, the world of soccer. It's about

2745
02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:53,640
Speaker 1: to get real as World Cup is around the corner,

2746
02:26:53,680 --> 02:26:57,840
Speaker 1: which is exactly when we began and launched this feature

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Speaker 1: many years ago. I want to remind everybody you can

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2749
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio is one of your presets, just like the

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Speaker 1: presets on a radio dial. So be sure to preset

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it will

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Speaker 1: always pop up on the top of your screen. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: we close down the show, and I want to help

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Speaker 1: you relive one of the greatest offensive baseball performances since

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Speaker 1: Herman Munster tried out for the Chicago Cubs and hit

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Speaker 1: a ball seven blocks and clumped Leo de Rocha around

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Speaker 1: the head. Yeah it happened, folks. I'm Bernie fraddlewer comedy

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Speaker 1: line from Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie

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Speaker 1: Frattle Show. I've been with you on these airwaves since

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Speaker 1: eleven pm Pacific time on Saturday night. I want to

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02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:17,320
Speaker 1: thank my producers Mark and Brandon. Great job tonight, turning

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Speaker 1: all the dials, keeping us glued together, keeping the plane

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02:28:20,480 --> 02:28:25,920
Speaker 1: in the air, answering all the phones. Excellent job on

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02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:30,240
Speaker 1: a brand new fool and what my name. I really

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02:28:30,320 --> 02:28:36,040
Speaker 1: appreciate the professionalism and the effort. These guys make it

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Speaker 1: look easy, So thanks again, really appreciate all of that.

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02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:41,880
Speaker 1: You know who else made it look easy? You know

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02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:45,440
Speaker 1: my buddy Larry Sorenson, who pitched ten years in the

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02:28:45,480 --> 02:28:50,160
Speaker 1: major leagues, in most noteworthy with the very good Milwaukee

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02:28:50,280 --> 02:28:54,440
Speaker 1: Brewers teams in a seventy eight All Star Game, retired

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02:28:54,560 --> 02:28:56,160
Speaker 1: nine minute in a row. I think it's a reckon

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Speaker 1: of you broken. Larry and I talk all the time.

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02:28:58,520 --> 02:29:02,000
Speaker 1: He does radio, worked for Wake Forest University. He's one

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02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:03,720
Speaker 1: of the color men on the football team and certainly

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02:29:03,760 --> 02:29:06,600
Speaker 1: the baseball team. He told me about Nick Kurtz about

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02:29:06,920 --> 02:29:09,040
Speaker 1: a year ago, two years. It's actually Nick Kurtz hit

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02:29:09,080 --> 02:29:11,400
Speaker 1: sixty one home runs while he was at Wake Forest.

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02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:14,400
Speaker 1: He's not twenty three in the major leagues in like

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02:29:14,480 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty at bats. He had thirty three

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02:29:16,480 --> 02:29:19,200
Speaker 1: games in the minor leagues. He was playing here in

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02:29:19,280 --> 02:29:20,959
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. He had seven home runs and what are

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02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:23,520
Speaker 1: they waiting for? Reminds me of Bob Warner back in

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02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:25,520
Speaker 1: seventy eight when he went straight from Arizona straight to

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02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:27,920
Speaker 1: the Major leagues for the Atlanta Braves, had twenty three

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Speaker 1: home runs and the remainder of the year. Horner's career

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02:29:30,640 --> 02:29:32,920
Speaker 1: was checkered after that. But this Kurtz, dude, man, this

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02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:35,840
Speaker 1: is what we are seeing a generation of stars now.

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02:29:36,560 --> 02:29:41,040
Speaker 1: And if you need any evidence, look what the heck

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Speaker 1: happened the other night. Kurtz's performance on Friday raised this

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02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:52,000
Speaker 1: season slash line. He's now hitting three zero five, He's

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Speaker 1: had two hundred and seventy one Major League played appearances

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02:29:55,320 --> 02:29:59,200
Speaker 1: in his first sixty six games. He's got forty three

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Speaker 1: extra base hits. There's only one player in the history

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Speaker 1: of baseball that did more than that in their first

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Speaker 1: sixty six games. God by the name of Joe DiMaggio.

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Speaker 16: But what.

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Speaker 1: Nick Kurtz did Friday night, He produced arguably the greatest

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02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:23,560
Speaker 1: single game performance in baseball history. He etched his name

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02:30:23,600 --> 02:30:27,960
Speaker 1: into the you know, sports lower highlight reel in a

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02:30:28,040 --> 02:30:30,879
Speaker 1: way few will ever do. It was a Diking Park,

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02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:34,840
Speaker 1: the former Enron Field and Minute Made Park in Houston.

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02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:37,680
Speaker 1: You need a program to keep track of all these

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02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:41,880
Speaker 1: first rookie to ever hit four home runs in a game.

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Speaker 1: During the A's fifteen to three win over the Houston Astros.

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Speaker 1: And here's what's interesting. I've watched the highlights a bunch

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02:30:49,080 --> 02:30:52,800
Speaker 1: of times. Maybe people are talking about it and I

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02:30:52,879 --> 02:30:57,320
Speaker 1: missed it. He almost hit a fifth home run, all right.

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02:30:57,480 --> 02:31:00,680
Speaker 1: If you he hit a shot to the left, the

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02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:03,280
Speaker 1: opposite field, most you know he's got a great inside outswing,

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02:31:04,000 --> 02:31:06,959
Speaker 1: squares up the bat. But if you look at all

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02:31:07,040 --> 02:31:10,880
Speaker 1: the advertisements in the left field corner above the three

2818
02:31:11,000 --> 02:31:13,880
Speaker 1: sixty six sign at Dykin Park, there's one that says

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02:31:13,959 --> 02:31:17,480
Speaker 1: one point five. There's one that says EMC jet, and

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02:31:17,560 --> 02:31:21,160
Speaker 1: there's another one Merrill Lynch. But there's one in blue

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02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:25,800
Speaker 1: it says one point five. How symbolic because he came

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02:31:25,879 --> 02:31:30,400
Speaker 1: about one point five feet from hitting a fifth home

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02:31:30,520 --> 02:31:35,920
Speaker 1: run that's never been done. Now, there's only been twenty

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02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:40,400
Speaker 1: four homer games in history. To give some perspective, there

2825
02:31:40,440 --> 02:31:42,080
Speaker 1: have been more perfect games than there have been four

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02:31:42,120 --> 02:31:47,360
Speaker 1: homer games. Kurtz went six for six, four homers, five

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Speaker 1: extra base its, including again a double that I just

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02:31:50,520 --> 02:31:53,040
Speaker 1: mentioned that landed about a foot and a half short

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02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:56,160
Speaker 1: of a fifth home run, eight RBIs, and he scored

2830
02:31:56,200 --> 02:31:58,320
Speaker 1: six runs out on that missus Lincoln, how was the

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02:31:58,360 --> 02:32:04,240
Speaker 1: play total basis Todd my buddy Sean Green. Sean Green

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02:32:04,520 --> 02:32:08,119
Speaker 1: went to Tustin High School, same as is Sean Foster

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02:32:08,480 --> 02:32:12,280
Speaker 1: and Mark Grace and Gottlieb and schools produced a lot.

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02:32:15,080 --> 02:32:19,080
Speaker 1: Heath Heath Miller was no, they got the wrong end

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Speaker 1: the reliever for the chart of the padres. Anyway, Green

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Speaker 1: and Kurts are the only players to record six hits

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Speaker 1: four home runs in a game. Kurtz also became the

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02:32:29,320 --> 02:32:31,960
Speaker 1: ninth player since nineteen hundred scored six runs in a game.

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02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Kurtz is the twentieth player in history to hit four

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Speaker 1: home runs in a game, in the first ever to

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Speaker 1: wear an athletic uniform an Oakland Athletic uniform.

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Speaker 8: To do it.

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02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:44,280
Speaker 1: He's only the second A's player with five plus hits

2844
02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:47,760
Speaker 1: and three plus homers in a game, other than Jimmy Fox,

2845
02:32:48,280 --> 02:32:50,720
Speaker 1: who had a six hit, three homer game back in

2846
02:32:50,840 --> 02:32:53,080
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty two. You remember I think it was windy

2847
02:32:53,160 --> 02:32:56,040
Speaker 1: that day. Yeah, twenty two years old, one hundred and

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02:32:56,080 --> 02:33:00,160
Speaker 1: thirty five days, by far, by far the young mis

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02:33:00,320 --> 02:33:03,800
Speaker 1: member of the forur homer game. Now, as I said,

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02:33:03,959 --> 02:33:07,480
Speaker 1: just last July, Kurtz was drafted fourth overall by a

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02:33:07,560 --> 02:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Wake Forest out a wake Forest. He spent a total

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Speaker 1: of thirty three days in the minors thirty three games

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02:33:13,360 --> 02:33:15,440
Speaker 1: in the minors, which might have been too long. Made

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Speaker 1: his big league debut on April twenty third, and he

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02:33:18,400 --> 02:33:22,000
Speaker 1: only played twenty games in Tripola. Like I said, his

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02:33:22,080 --> 02:33:24,800
Speaker 1: forty three extra base hits are the most by a

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Speaker 1: player through his first sixty six games since Joe Demaggio

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Speaker 1: back in nineteen thirty six. By the way, he had

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Speaker 1: one more RBI than Sean Green did. And so I

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Speaker 1: don't know, come see you comes out, pick your poison.

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Speaker 1: Whoever you think had the best had the best offensive day.

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Speaker 1: Mulligan offensive week. That's a week. Man. If you just

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Speaker 1: did that every week major League baseball season is if

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02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 1: you had four home nuns every week in nineteen forget it.

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Speaker 1: You get the picture, all right? Eight them. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm at a loss for words, honestly, because this kid

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Speaker 1: just he's twenty three years old, just out of Wake Forest.

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Speaker 1: But there's another aspect to this game that really it's

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Speaker 1: almost sort of comical. You know howevery now and then

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Speaker 1: you'll go to a game and there's a blowout happening,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, they're bringing a

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Speaker 1: back of brightfielder to pitch or something like that. Well,

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Speaker 1: that happened in the game Friday night, all right. Kertz

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Speaker 1: had three hits off the starters for the Astro that night.

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Speaker 1: His name is Ryan Gusto, and they all went to

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Speaker 1: the opposite field, including that three hundred and eighty four

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Speaker 1: foot home brown in the second inning that he doubled.

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Speaker 1: That was the double I just told you about earlier

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Speaker 1: in the game, three eighty one banged off the facade.

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Speaker 1: According to Major League Baseball Savant, that double edg just

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Speaker 1: told you about that, that Kurtz hit that landed on

2882
02:35:02,320 --> 02:35:05,240
Speaker 1: the one point five sign would have been a home

2883
02:35:05,320 --> 02:35:08,800
Speaker 1: run in six ballparks, not all thirty did. In fact,

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Speaker 1: twenty four to thirty would have been but six of them.

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02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:13,120
Speaker 1: The rest also would have been home runs. He would

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Speaker 1: have hit five runs in the game. It's never been done.

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Speaker 1: Kurtz thought it was a home run, he thought it

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02:35:17,480 --> 02:35:19,800
Speaker 1: was out. He hits the ball the other way, and

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02:35:19,959 --> 02:35:23,720
Speaker 1: like Mark Kotze said, the way Nick Kurtz hits the

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02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:25,400
Speaker 1: ball the other way, it's like a right hander pulling

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02:35:25,440 --> 02:35:26,879
Speaker 1: the ball. But let me get to the funny part

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Speaker 1: here in the eighth inning, after you know, Kurtz pulled

2893
02:35:29,400 --> 02:35:32,280
Speaker 1: the first pitch fastball from a reliever named Caleb Ord

2894
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Speaker 1: into the third deck of the right field seats, so

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02:35:34,600 --> 02:35:37,320
Speaker 1: that gave them a nine run lead, and that guaranteed

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02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:40,240
Speaker 1: an Astro's position player would come in and pitch the

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Speaker 1: ninth inning, which he did. His name is Cooper Hunner, A,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Homer, Cooper Hummel. Excuse me this time I ran

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Speaker 1: a tongue from that place. But here's the deal. Kurtz's

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02:35:51,360 --> 02:35:54,800
Speaker 1: spot in the batting murder was five spots away, so

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02:35:54,959 --> 02:35:57,240
Speaker 1: he stood a triple away from hitting for the cycle.

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02:35:57,959 --> 02:36:00,920
Speaker 1: And he'd already told his third base coach, Eric Martins,

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02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:02,760
Speaker 1: he goes, if I hit one in the gap, I'm

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02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:07,440
Speaker 1: going three, okay. So all of a sudden we get

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02:36:07,480 --> 02:36:09,920
Speaker 1: to the ninth inning, and you know the age are

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02:36:09,920 --> 02:36:12,840
Speaker 1: the visiting teams that they're batting. Lawrence Butler gets a hit,

2907
02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:17,280
Speaker 1: Gee or Schela gets a hit, Carlos Cortes gets a hit.

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Speaker 1: This is all off Cooper Hummel, who's not a pitcher.

2909
02:36:22,080 --> 02:36:25,199
Speaker 1: He's showing seventy seven miles an hour. That's batting practice speed.

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02:36:25,640 --> 02:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Most guys try to jerk that and they pop it up.

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02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:31,200
Speaker 1: Kurtz came to the plate and he said, all right,

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02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm locked in. They locked in. We're gonna do it.

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02:36:35,800 --> 02:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Neither of the first two pitches that Kurtz faced reached

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02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:41,400
Speaker 1: eighty miles an hour or landed anywhere near the strike zone.

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02:36:41,400 --> 02:36:43,520
Speaker 1: A third one was clocked at seventy six and it

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02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:47,080
Speaker 1: got the outer half of the corner. Kurtz didn't take

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02:36:47,160 --> 02:36:51,480
Speaker 1: that pitch. He hit it three hundred and eighty five

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02:36:51,560 --> 02:36:55,000
Speaker 1: feet the other way into the Crawford boxes. He can't

2919
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:57,760
Speaker 1: make this stuff up. So you see these guys come

2920
02:36:57,840 --> 02:37:01,160
Speaker 1: in throwing noodles, and most players them up or strike

2921
02:37:01,200 --> 02:37:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, they don't strike out, but and coot the

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02:37:03,400 --> 02:37:06,080
Speaker 1: Kurtz hit a home run off Cooper Hommel as well.

2923
02:37:06,520 --> 02:37:08,640
Speaker 1: The ballpark was half empty at that time. But the

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02:37:08,720 --> 02:37:11,920
Speaker 1: people who thought were still dumbfounded. And I still am dumbfounded,

2925
02:37:11,959 --> 02:37:13,720
Speaker 1: as you can see by my rate of speech. It's

2926
02:37:13,760 --> 02:37:15,480
Speaker 1: good to do it for the Bernie Frawler Show. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Keep it locked. Two Hall of famers up,

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02:37:18,120 --> 02:37:21,040
Speaker 1: Arnie Spanier and Andy Ferman keep it locked. At Fox

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