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Speaker 1: Tonight's matchup between the NBA's Phoenix Suns and the Sacramento King,
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Speaker 1: Up, Well, Kevin Durant KD Trey score more or less
Speaker 1: than twenty five and a half points for the Phoenix
Speaker 1: Suns I'm gonna go with more because he's KD It's
Speaker 1: that simple. One of the greatest pure score the game
Speaker 1: has ever seen. Approaching the age of thirty seven and
Speaker 1: a brother still averaging twenty seven the game.
Speaker 2: This is who he is and what he does.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be hard for him to score twenty, you know,
Speaker 1: more points than twenty six and a half, especially considering
Speaker 1: or twenty five and a half. Rather especially considered what
Speaker 1: I saw from Sacramento just the other night against Golden State.
Speaker 1: Next up, well, Devin Booker scored more or less than
Speaker 1: twenty six and a half points.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with more with him.
Speaker 1: Too, because he's a pure scorer, and because he's going
Speaker 1: up against the Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 2: They've just seen under.
Speaker 1: The leadership of Doug Christy, who I like a lot
Speaker 1: and I am rooting for. They just seen at times
Speaker 1: to be going through the motions. Yeah, they can score,
Speaker 1: but inexplicably they get their ass kicked from time to time.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why. I really don't get it, but
Speaker 1: it just happens, and especially on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the floor, no doubt about that. So I'm definitely going
Speaker 1: with more for Devin book in this category. Next up, well,
Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings to mar De Rozan score more or
Speaker 1: less than twenty two and a half points.
Speaker 2: Mister mid range himself to mar De Rozan.
Speaker 1: I believe he will, because I haven't been that in
Speaker 1: press us with Phoenix. Obviously, they just find ways to
Speaker 1: cause themselves trouble. They should be a lot better than
Speaker 1: what they are. It makes no sense whatsoever why they're
Speaker 1: not that way. You just have to look at them
Speaker 1: right now. Whether it's Bill and Devin Booker and that
Speaker 1: combination doesn't work, whether it's Bulldenhodser being a coach and
Speaker 1: that's not working, whether they're devoid of leadership, which is
Speaker 1: things that we've all speculated about. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on here, but I do know this.
Speaker 1: It ain't hard to score more than twenty two and
Speaker 1: a half points on them if you can play and
Speaker 1: Damar DeRozan kid ball. And finally, well, the Sacramento King
Speaker 1: Zach Levine scored more or less than twenty one and
Speaker 1: a half points. Yes, the answer is more to this
Speaker 1: same damn reasons I just gave you. To say more
Speaker 1: about Damar DeRozan.
Speaker 2: It's that simple.
Speaker 1: So look at what I'm talking about it here, Okay, KD,
Speaker 1: Devin Booker, Damar DeRozan, Zach.
Speaker 2: Levine, More and more and more and more.
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Speaker 1: Before we get to mister Tom Holman, let's get started
Speaker 1: with the NFL and the beef going on now between
Speaker 1: former Cowboy teammates de Marcus Lawrence and Michael Passus. Lawrence,
Speaker 1: who spent the last eleven seasons in Dallas, recently signed
Speaker 1: a free agent deal this week with the Seattle Seahawks. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: the defensive end spoke to a blogger who covers the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and here's Whatlawrence had to say about the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Take a listen to this, please. You know Dallas is
Speaker 2: my home made my home there. You know, my family
Speaker 2: lives there. You know I'm forever gonna be there, but
Speaker 2: you know, I know for sure I'm not gonna win
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl there. So yeah, you're here. We're here,
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence. Welcome to the Seahawks. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: Damn, let's be very very clear about the Marcus Lawrence yeal. Okay,
Speaker 1: the brother didn't even have a chance to pass gas
Speaker 1: before he was talking about his old team.
Speaker 2: I mean, he literally it was the equivalent.
Speaker 1: Of just getting out the damn bathroom before this brother
Speaker 1: opens his mouth and is talking smack about the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: his former team, having said that, he didn't lie because
Speaker 1: we know there's a snowballs chance in hell the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowbys going to Super Bowl thirty years acount. Just get
Speaker 1: y'all just in case, y'all remember, you know I'm talking at.
Speaker 2: The Cowboy fans right now. Watch me. You know I'm
Speaker 2: laughing at you. You're not I'm laughing at you. You
Speaker 2: go with the Super Bowl, Disuber, you know, we go
Speaker 2: with the super.
Speaker 1: Boul Dickchuber No thirty years in counting, and what I
Speaker 1: appeeled from that, Stay tuned.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you what I ap peeled from his.
Speaker 1: Words, specifically until I get a little bit further into this,
Speaker 1: because that full interview, by the way, can be found
Speaker 1: at YouTube dot com.
Speaker 2: Slash at Hawk Blogger.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, those words didn't sit well with his former
Speaker 1: teammate Michael Parsons, who wrote this on X quote, this
Speaker 1: is what rejection and NV looked like.
Speaker 2: This is some clown shit. End quote.
Speaker 1: Now, Lawrence apparently saw the post on X and he
Speaker 1: had his own retort directly to MICHAEH. Parsons quote, calling
Speaker 1: me a clown won't change the fact that I told
Speaker 1: the truth. Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and
Speaker 1: more time winning, I wouldn't have left.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 1: Okay, de Marcus Lawrence is a good comeback since of
Speaker 1: Michael Parson's clapped that you you had every right to
Speaker 1: clap back at him. You had me, you know, you
Speaker 1: know how, you know how they said and Jerry Maguire,
Speaker 1: you had me.
Speaker 2: Had a load, You had me, had a load.
Speaker 1: Remember that, Well, you had me until that last line
Speaker 1: you saying, hey, have you spent more time tweeting, less
Speaker 1: time tweeting and more time winning?
Speaker 2: I may that of left.
Speaker 1: We're not sure. The Cowboys wanted to keep you. Last
Speaker 1: time you had double digit sacks was six years ago.
Speaker 1: You had twenty five sacks. You had ten and a
Speaker 1: half sacks in twenty eighteen, and I believe fourteen and
Speaker 1: a half sacks in twenty seventeen. That's twenty five of
Speaker 1: year sixty one and a half sacks in eleven years.
Speaker 1: That means the other nine years you had a grand
Speaker 1: total of thirty six and a half, which averages out
Speaker 1: to about.
Speaker 2: Four a season.
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. I'm just using math, So I
Speaker 1: want you to be careful about that. See Corter Cowboys
Speaker 1: cornerback of Tryvon Diggs right as Wow. Can't go to
Speaker 1: war with somebody who really be hating on you. That's
Speaker 1: not true, Trayvon Diggs. You can't go to war with
Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't.
Speaker 2: Believe in you. That's the real statement there. Y'all had
Speaker 2: a teammate that knew y'all wonn't going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Y'all had a teammate that knew what Steven they have
Speaker 1: been saying for thirty years.
Speaker 2: Y'all had a teammate that let y'all know.
Speaker 1: We really ain't shit. That's Cowboys, not on meaning in
Speaker 1: this literal terms.
Speaker 2: It's the National Football League.
Speaker 1: You have back to back to back twelve win seasons,
Speaker 1: y'all were knocking on the door.
Speaker 2: In a lot of people's eyes. You had the Cowboy
Speaker 2: faithful up there saying, Yo, we going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: You know we're going Super Bowls? You were, you know
Speaker 2: we going with the Super Bowl diicks?
Speaker 1: You wait, and you had credible reasons to believe that
Speaker 1: until the playoffs arrived, and.
Speaker 2: Y'all knowse dived. You see when you see these.
Speaker 1: Photos of Cowboy fans, the most delusional, disgusting, noiseating fan
Speaker 1: base in American history. Okay, which is I customarily say
Speaker 1: it's all in fun, it's all love because I'm just
Speaker 1: trolling y'all. I'm just trolling y'all, like y'all troll me.
Speaker 1: You had said, because I love how y'all get your
Speaker 1: hotel sea? Last year, the joy departed from me. I
Speaker 1: have to admit I was sad. See, I don't want
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to suck. I want the Cowboys to be
Speaker 1: good because I want your hopes.
Speaker 2: To get up.
Speaker 1: See, I don't want you falling off a curb if
Speaker 1: you're a Cowboy fan, I want.
Speaker 2: You falling off the roof sply.
Speaker 1: That's what I want, because there's nothing more nauseating the
Speaker 1: mean a cowboy fan.
Speaker 2: You you know we're going to the super Bowl, that
Speaker 2: you were even.
Speaker 1: When y'all go three and thirteen or now three and fourteen,
Speaker 1: it's who y'all are. Y'all pass gas, and y'all have
Speaker 1: tell somebody is perfume. You spent somebody's face, You'll tell him.
Speaker 2: It's raining. It's what you do, it's who you are.
Speaker 1: And you got away with it all these years because
Speaker 1: you got that man Jeffy Jones right there, my buddy,
Speaker 1: my lib buddy, right there, And you got that man
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones right there making billions, making sure y'all splattered
Speaker 1: all over those headlines, making sure that you're the number
Speaker 1: one sports brand in the world, if at the very
Speaker 1: least America worth over eleven billion dollars.
Speaker 2: That Jeffy Jones.
Speaker 1: Right there, he loved the headlines. The untold story in
Speaker 1: all of this is that evidently y'all do too, at
Speaker 1: least some of y'all, because you see, if you had
Speaker 1: those players in that.
Speaker 2: Locker room, right dude, didn't believe.
Speaker 1: That you was gonna win the Super Bowl? Where A
Speaker 1: why the hell you stay? Could it be the perks?
Speaker 1: Could it be the attention, the allure. Could it be
Speaker 1: the fact that y'all are number one brand and the
Speaker 1: camera gravitates to y'all and it's a marketing tool that's
Speaker 1: unrivaled being a Dallas cowboy?
Speaker 2: Could that be the reason? Sounds like it to me,
Speaker 2: That's what I took from It.
Speaker 1: Made me think about Dak Prescott too. You know that
Speaker 1: sixty million dollar a year quarterback. Even after Josh Allen
Speaker 1: just signed for six years and three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: million dollars that averages out the fifty five million Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott on an annual salary.
Speaker 2: It's still a highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Even though.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has been to two AFC Championship games, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott ain't won more than two playoff games than ten years.
Speaker 2: But he the HoTT paid quarterback. Is he there because
Speaker 2: of the sizzle? I'm just asking. I'm just asking.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I just think it's a legitimate question asked.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this the Marcus Lawrence. I don't
Speaker 1: blame Michael Parsons for clapping back of it because it
Speaker 1: was a shout out the Cowboys, even though he didn't
Speaker 1: mention him by name in the previous tweet but then
Speaker 1: came back in or in an interview with the blogger,
Speaker 1: he didn't mention them by name and then came back
Speaker 1: and then with the tweet. My point is that I
Speaker 1: don't blame Michael Parsons for coming to the defense of
Speaker 1: his teammates and his organization because he's trying to re
Speaker 1: up there and he wants people to know that he
Speaker 1: believed they gonna win. He doesn't believe they suck. He
Speaker 1: doesn't believe that they're gonna be as bad as they
Speaker 1: were last year. And I get that. I sighed with
Speaker 1: Michael Partu's on that, But to me, that ain't the
Speaker 1: biggest deal here. The biggest deal here is that the
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence. He ain't going to Baltimore or Kansas City,
Speaker 1: or Buffalo, or the Philadelphia Eagles or even the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions or the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2: This brother's going to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett's going, DK metcalf is going, Geno Smith is going.
Speaker 2: He's going to Seattle.
Speaker 1: And was saying, YO might as well be here because
Speaker 1: it wasn't like we were going to win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl there. Damn that had to hurt. But maybe it'll
Speaker 1: be in center for the Dallas Cowboys to look at themselves.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones ranking thirtieth in the NFL this offseason and
Speaker 1: free agent spending at twenty two point two million dollars.
Speaker 1: Only the Ravens and the Eagles have spent less, and
Speaker 1: that's only because.
Speaker 2: They don't need to.
Speaker 1: Got Rico o'dowdell, undrafted free agent running back, became the
Speaker 1: first undrafted play in Cowboys history to rush for.
Speaker 2: Over a thousand yards in a season.
Speaker 1: And this brother got to go to Carolina to on
Speaker 1: a one year, six million dollar deal because the Cowboys
Speaker 1: didn't have the money to give to him. Instead, they
Speaker 1: signed Javonte Williams from the Denver Broncos to a one year,
Speaker 1: three million dollar deal.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones cutting corners.
Speaker 1: They ain't really spending, which means they ain't gonna really win,
Speaker 1: which means more of.
Speaker 2: What we saw last year is likely. That would give
Speaker 2: the Mark Lawrence.
Speaker 1: An additional dose of credibility with what he was saying,
Speaker 1: but it would also be something that rightfully agitated Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: who's about to re up with a long term extension,
Speaker 1: and it's hell been on letting everybody know we ain't
Speaker 1: going down like that. I like the subject personally. Michael
Speaker 1: Parson's my man. Mad love for him, the Marcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: mad respect for him. You cowboy fans out there who
Speaker 1: are miserable and a bit perplexed, scratching your head like
Speaker 1: you got Dan Drift because you're so upset over the
Speaker 1: kind of back and forth that we're hearing right now
Speaker 1: and feeling miserable right now.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for your feelings. I'm laughing because you know
Speaker 2: why I'm laughing because I know what's coming come September
Speaker 2: and October and November, and we don't need to mention January.
Speaker 2: I forgot you got a new clothes to a new
Speaker 2: coach too.
Speaker 1: What's his name again, Brian Schottenheimen, That's what the name is.
Speaker 2: I forgot. Y'all live for long season and you're ready?
Speaker 2: Let me know. I'll be ready for it, will you?
Speaker 2: How do y'all? How do you do?
Speaker 1: I'll see you in the weeks in the months to come.
Speaker 2: Trust me, coming up.
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Speaker 1: My next guest has spent more than four decades monitoring
Speaker 1: America's border. He joined the United States Border Patrol in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four. In twenty thirteen, he was appointed by
Speaker 1: then President Barack Obama as Immigration and Customs Enforcements Executive
Speaker 1: Associate Director. He was charged with enforcement and removal operations
Speaker 1: under that administration.
Speaker 2: Then, in twenty seventeen, he.
Speaker 1: Was appointed as the Acting Director of ICE by then
Speaker 1: President Donald Trump. However, he subsequently retired from the position
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Now he's back with President Trump in
Speaker 1: this new administration. As the borders are please welcome to
Speaker 1: the Stephen A. Smith Show. Mister Tom Holman. So Horman,
Speaker 1: how are you, sir? How's everything?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: Being on the show. Let's get right to it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to remind our audience that you served under
Speaker 1: President Obama. He tapped you to lead the Immigration and
Speaker 1: Customs Enforcements Deportation Branch at twenty thirteen. How does your
Speaker 1: role different now between the Obama and Trump administrations? How
Speaker 1: does it different from what it was then to what
Speaker 1: it is now?
Speaker 4: Well, look, und of President Obama. I was the head
Speaker 4: of enforcement removal operations. When I was there, we alvers
Speaker 4: saw the removal of to Shire three million illegal aliens.
Speaker 4: Now I'm the I'm bordz are under President Trump. I
Speaker 4: have a direct report to the president here, so I
Speaker 4: overlooked the presidents signed me on this new role. I
Speaker 4: oversee border operations. I got three goals, secure the borders,
Speaker 4: run a deportation operation, a massive deportation operation, and third
Speaker 4: find miss some children. Children that were smuggling into the
Speaker 4: country and the last administration lost track of them. We
Speaker 4: need to find these children because many of them will
Speaker 4: be in Harmon's way. Many are We need to find
Speaker 4: these children, make sure they're safe.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Donald Trump at a point that you
Speaker 1: was active director of Vice at twenty seventeen, but you
Speaker 1: retired in twenty eighteen. What happened then and why you
Speaker 1: back now? Because you stepped away, but obviously you came back.
Speaker 1: You served over thirty years. I mean, you've given your
Speaker 1: service and what have you. And you could have retired
Speaker 1: and went out into the sunset, but you came back.
Speaker 1: Why did you feel compelled to do so? So appreciate
Speaker 1: that with hold my audience.
Speaker 4: Well, it's the second time I came back and out
Speaker 4: of retirement from President Trump. Didn't Me and my wife
Speaker 4: were happy. But now how do you not come back?
Speaker 4: I mean under the last four years? You know, I
Speaker 4: wake up every day upset in the last four years
Speaker 4: because we had the most secure border in my lifetime,
Speaker 4: and I've done this since. As you said nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 4: it's more secure border in my lifetime. The numbers proved it,
Speaker 4: and what the last administration did when opened the border up.
Speaker 4: I knew every day when I woke up, more women
Speaker 4: and children are being sex traffick across an open border.
Speaker 4: More Americans would die from fatanyl overdoses poisonings because of
Speaker 4: an open border. Sex trafficing women and children would increase
Speaker 4: on an open border, and more no inspected terrists, people
Speaker 4: on the wash list, We'll get into the country through
Speaker 4: an open border. So you know, I was insulted that
Speaker 4: President Biden took the most secure border in my lifetime
Speaker 4: and unsecured it on purpose.
Speaker 3: And I mean that.
Speaker 4: Look, I worked for six presidents, starting Ronald Reagan. Every
Speaker 4: president I worked for, including Obama and Clinton, took steps
Speaker 4: to secure the border. Could clearly understood you can't have
Speaker 4: national security if you don't have border security. President Biden
Speaker 4: the first president history of this nation who came in
Speaker 4: unsecured border. So upset me because I knew every day
Speaker 4: someone's going to die across that border. Women are going
Speaker 4: to be sex yourself across that borders. When President Trump
Speaker 4: called me is you know, he asked me if I
Speaker 4: if you want to come back and you know, help
Speaker 4: fix that border. I didn't hesitate. I came back because
Speaker 4: I think it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 2: You've worked there obviously doing what you've done.
Speaker 1: It's spanned decades, so obviously one could easily surmise you
Speaker 1: have a lot of intel. You have a lot of
Speaker 1: access to information that the average American citizen may not know.
Speaker 3: What have you?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and I don't mean to
Speaker 1: ask it politically, but I'm asking it this way. Have
Speaker 1: you received any kind of explanation as to why former
Speaker 1: President Biden literally went against what former President Barack Obama
Speaker 1: did during his presidency once and in the number show
Speaker 1: he actually deported more immigrants out of this country than
Speaker 1: Trump did. Yet Biden comes into office in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: and he went completely against what Obama had done. You
Speaker 1: ever received intel explanation as to why he did that?
Speaker 4: You know, that's a great question. You're the first one
Speaker 4: is to ask me that question right now. I surmise
Speaker 4: I have an opinion that I think this administration thought
Speaker 4: these millions of people are going to be future Democratic voters.
Speaker 4: But one of the things Biden also did, in addition
Speaker 4: to destroying all the programs we put in place that
Speaker 4: give us some more secure border, he over Trump overturned
Speaker 4: the Trump's census rule, which means millions of people they
Speaker 4: released the sanctuary cities will be counted in the next census,
Speaker 4: which is going to result what more seats and House
Speaker 4: for the damas, So I truly believe they saw off
Speaker 4: future political benefit of this. But you're exactly right, and
Speaker 4: I've said this, Why do I think he did it
Speaker 4: on purpose? Because Joe Biden was vice president under Barack Obama.
Speaker 3: When he had those record removals.
Speaker 4: Ali Hondo Majorkis was a deputy secretary under Obama. Won't
Speaker 4: have those removals, And we had a families. We had
Speaker 4: thousands of families coming across the border every day. How
Speaker 4: do we stop it? We built family residents for centers.
Speaker 4: We held them long enough to see a judge ninety percent,
Speaker 4: lost the case ninety percent. So if I'm on the airplane,
Speaker 4: send them home. Border numbers ten. So both those men
Speaker 4: knew how we solved that crisis. When it came back
Speaker 4: in as now, the secretary and the president, what did
Speaker 4: they do? The complete opposite. They didn't defend, They released, then,
Speaker 4: didn't make them see a judge, and they weren't removing them.
Speaker 4: So they did the complete opposite of what they knew
Speaker 4: worked under President Obama.
Speaker 2: Wow, let me ask you this though, because you mentioned
Speaker 2: children on several of your answers already, and I know
Speaker 2: you mentioned you're trying to find children that were separated
Speaker 2: from their parents. How does that process work?
Speaker 1: Actually, how do you go about the business of finding,
Speaker 1: you know, children that have been separated from their parents.
Speaker 4: Well, look, that's I'm gon be honest with it, have
Speaker 4: been honest from day one. That's just that's going to
Speaker 4: be the hardest out of the three goals that I have,
Speaker 4: that is going to be the hardest. And for obvious reasons,
Speaker 4: half men and children, more than half men and children
Speaker 4: were smuggling in the country, separated from their parents, put
Speaker 4: in the hands of criminal cartels to be brought in
Speaker 4: this country legally. And you know, you and I, we
Speaker 4: leave our child in the car in the middle of summer,
Speaker 4: we'll get arrested. But these five hundred thousand children were
Speaker 4: putting hands on criminal cartels released into the country by
Speaker 4: the last administration. Last administration was concerned about one thing, optics.
Speaker 4: So the instructions to O r R, which is Division AHS,
Speaker 4: was to process release as quickly as you can because
Speaker 4: if there's no overcrowding, we can say the board is secure.
Speaker 4: Nothing to see here, right, Even the Secretary of AHHS
Speaker 4: but Sarah on stage several times he was bragging how
Speaker 4: quickly they released these children so so called sponsors. Here's
Speaker 4: the problem. They didn't bet these sponsors appropriately. Under Trump administration,
Speaker 4: we did DNA testing. We not only sponsored, we not
Speaker 4: only vetted a sponsor, We vetted everybody in that household
Speaker 4: to make sure there wasn't a child predator in that household,
Speaker 4: make sure there wasn't a gang member in that household.
Speaker 4: We took a lot of steps to make through. These
Speaker 4: children gonna be saved when they're sent to the sponsors.
Speaker 4: Under this administration. The whistleblowers at AHHS has made it
Speaker 4: clear many of these sponsors weren't fingerprinted. Many of them
Speaker 4: they weren't run through record checks, and many of the
Speaker 4: identification they provided was not assured that there was a
Speaker 4: legitimate identication. So here's the issue. Now, we got three
Speaker 4: hundred thousand children we need to find, and there's a
Speaker 4: way to find you and me, Stephen. We have a footprint,
Speaker 4: we have a digital footprint. We owned homes, we owned cars,
Speaker 4: we pay bills, we got we got loans, you know,
Speaker 4: and we got we.
Speaker 3: Got utility bills. Whatever.
Speaker 4: They can find us. But a child don't have that
Speaker 4: digital footprint, which means we got to use the digital
Speaker 4: footprint of the sponsors and what information they provided, and
Speaker 4: we know a lot of the information is fraudulent. So
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a difficult job. I can tell you
Speaker 4: right now. We'll find some of these children, and not
Speaker 4: every one of these children aren't harms way many were
Speaker 4: won't find there with their parents, but many of them
Speaker 4: are not. Based on my four decades of doing this,
Speaker 4: many of these children gonna be enforced labor. We already
Speaker 4: found many in forced labor. Some are going to be
Speaker 4: in sexual slavery, and so we need to find these
Speaker 4: children and save them. But that's the hardest part about
Speaker 4: this job because of the data that we we have.
Speaker 4: Is not the best dad in the world, but we're
Speaker 4: not going to give up. President Trump's committed to do everything.
Speaker 4: We kind of find these children.
Speaker 2: Let me get back to you with this question too.
Speaker 1: Though you're considered one of the master minds of the
Speaker 1: first Trump administration's infamous zero tolerance policy, which led to
Speaker 1: the separation of thousands of migrant children from their parents.
Speaker 1: In the eyes of many, at the very least, the
Speaker 1: idea led to the separation of more than I think
Speaker 1: four thousand children from their parents. And some were lamenting
Speaker 1: that some of them will put in cages. How do
Speaker 1: you answer these questions for those that don't know, how
Speaker 1: do you answer questions like that, like I just posed
Speaker 1: to you in terms of four thousand children being separated
Speaker 1: from their parents.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So, where did zero talents come from? Zero tallenges
Speaker 4: came from this? Thirty one percent of women that make
Speaker 4: their journey get raped by the crima cartels. Children were
Speaker 4: dying on that border every day, dying, you know, droning
Speaker 4: and river dying, making that journey. Children were sexual assaulted,
Speaker 4: and children were dying in the desert. You know, they
Speaker 4: made that journey and a lot of women and children
Speaker 4: not only died, many were sexious. So we said, look,
Speaker 4: how can we save lives? How can we stop the
Speaker 4: sexual solid children? So we said, look, let's prosecute them
Speaker 4: because it's a crime dangerous country legally. So if we
Speaker 4: prosecute them and put them in jail, maybe the numbers
Speaker 4: go down, maybe less will come. And it worked zero
Speaker 4: talents that the numbers of families put themselves in harms
Speaker 4: way to and put themselves in hands of criminal car
Speaker 4: tells drop significantly. However, the saddest part about it The
Speaker 4: unfortunate part about it is that when you prosecute a
Speaker 4: parent and put them in jail, the child won't go
Speaker 4: with them. And I'll say this, I started as a
Speaker 4: police officer in New York. Police agencies across this country
Speaker 4: separate families a thousand times a day across this country
Speaker 4: because the child doesn't go to jail with a parent.
Speaker 4: And I've said during my testimony one time I'll test
Speaker 4: my hell. When I was a cop in New York,
Speaker 4: when I went to a domestic bonnus car and I
Speaker 4: arrested the father, I separated that family.
Speaker 3: Child can't go to jail with them.
Speaker 4: When I wrested Dui and had a child in the car,
Speaker 4: I separated that family. It's an unfor were and satisfying
Speaker 4: law enforcement. Families get separated when the parents gets arrested.
Speaker 4: So we do let the families a thousand times a
Speaker 4: day in this country with Americans. But they want a
Speaker 4: different set of rules for illegal aliens. But the whole
Speaker 4: intent of doing this was to save lives, were less
Speaker 4: sexual assaults of women and children. That was the whole
Speaker 4: purpose for it. But they keep outputting on that Trump's
Speaker 4: family separation policy. But you're right about four thousand, But
Speaker 4: they don't talk about the five hundred thousands half the
Speaker 4: main separations that this administration responsible for, because they send
Speaker 4: a message to the whole world. If you're a child
Speaker 4: and across the country illegally, you're not going to be deported,
Speaker 4: will deliver you to the very same people who pay
Speaker 4: the criminal cartel the smuggling in this country.
Speaker 3: So you know we did.
Speaker 4: What we did was try to save lives and decrease
Speaker 4: sexual assaults. What they did was send a message the
Speaker 4: whole world jalic across the border. We'll get them to
Speaker 4: the final destination at government expense and reward the people
Speaker 4: who pay the criminal cartels bring. And that's why the
Speaker 4: numbers exploded, because there's no consequence.
Speaker 3: We had a consequence they did.
Speaker 1: That's an incredibly, incredibly compelling answer that you just gave.
Speaker 1: I can't refute it, No one should, as far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, sir.
Speaker 2: But I would ask you this because whether it's optics
Speaker 2: or it's a reality, listening to what you said, how
Speaker 2: sensitive you are to these issues. What one would argue
Speaker 2: diametrically opposes that is when we see one story, and
Speaker 2: granted it's one individual. But it's still a ten year
Speaker 2: old in Texas who's a US citizen being deported to Mexico,
Speaker 2: you know, suffering from brain cancer. You've seen that story
Speaker 2: plastered all over the news. Why is over the last
Speaker 2: couple of days, how.
Speaker 1: Do you explain your mode of thinking and your explanation
Speaker 1: about why you do what you do and why you're
Speaker 1: committed to doing what you're doing, which is pretty damn
Speaker 1: close to irrefutable, I might add, But then we see
Speaker 1: a case like that happening, how do you just look?
Speaker 4: You and I are in the same page. Actually, I've
Speaker 4: been on travel last couple of days. I saw that
Speaker 4: story on my way to work this morning. I read
Speaker 4: that story, and what did I do? I immediately contacted the
Speaker 4: office of the board show and said, I want facts
Speaker 4: in this case, cause many times the facts are different
Speaker 4: when you read the media. But I've already inquired about it.
Speaker 4: What happened here? What's a ground tooth here? So so
Speaker 4: I'm looking into it. I just I've read that story
Speaker 4: this morning. I'm on my day behind, but I get
Speaker 4: hundreds of phone calls, one hundred texts, I have a
Speaker 4: lot of meetings. I'm on my airplane on time. But
Speaker 4: I've asked this morning because we want to make sure. Look,
Speaker 4: I've been honest from the beginning. We want to be
Speaker 4: transparent American people. If we screw up, we didn't know,
Speaker 4: we screw up if we do something. So I've already
Speaker 4: asked that question. I don't have the facts on the end.
Speaker 4: I've asked for fact ground truth on that and I'll
Speaker 4: deal with it once I get the facts that on
Speaker 4: the ground from what actually happened, because many times what
Speaker 4: you read the media, they leave half the story out.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they don't. But I'm going to find out.
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that answer. That's very honest to stand
Speaker 1: up for you. Thank you for saying that. Are you
Speaker 1: saying that you don't know all the facts?
Speaker 3: Shit?
Speaker 1: And if you do find out that this ten year
Speaker 1: old child was indeed a United States citizen, that you
Speaker 1: will make sure that child is not deported.
Speaker 4: I'll make sure I get all the facts, will make
Speaker 4: the decision based on the facts. I can't tell you
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do. Yeah, the facts could be a
Speaker 4: thousand different ways, right, But like, are the parents of
Speaker 4: public safety threat? Are they national security? They can't be here?
Speaker 4: And so we got to find out where the facts are.
Speaker 4: But we'll make We'll make a decision that is the
Speaker 4: most humanitarian thing we can do.
Speaker 1: Let me switch to sanctuary cities because obviously I've seen you,
Speaker 1: and I must.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say.
Speaker 1: This is actually bad for me to say this on camera,
Speaker 1: but I haven't minded you at all. You know, going
Speaker 1: at elected officials and law enforcement officials and letting them
Speaker 1: know that they were going to be accountable if they
Speaker 1: didn't follow the law. Didn't bother me at all to
Speaker 1: see that from you. But I am wondering what are
Speaker 1: your future plans for sanctuary cities and do you see
Speaker 1: a legal solution to sanctuary cities in this country?
Speaker 3: I actually do. We're working on some things right now.
Speaker 4: I don't want to share it here on this podcast
Speaker 4: because it's a long enforcing sensus. We're working on some
Speaker 4: things now, but I can say this, sanctuary cities are
Speaker 4: sanctuary of criminals, and.
Speaker 3: We're going to holme accountable.
Speaker 4: In Pam Bondy now that she's the attorney general, she's
Speaker 4: already filed lawsuits and we're going to continue finding lawsuits
Speaker 4: because we think knowingly releasing a public safety threat back
Speaker 4: in the public is just dumb.
Speaker 3: There's no reason back.
Speaker 4: When you release a public safety threat back in the public,
Speaker 4: it puts your officers at great risk because rather than
Speaker 4: arresting somebody in the safety and security of county jail,
Speaker 4: now we've got to go to the neighborhood and find them,
Speaker 4: which is dangerous for the officer, dangerous for the alien
Speaker 4: because anything can happen on street arrest, and it's certainly
Speaker 4: dangerous for the community. So we want to make a
Speaker 4: sanctuary citions. You don't understand they're hurting themselves because when
Speaker 4: you don't give us access to the bad guy locked
Speaker 4: in the jail sot which is safe for everybody, you
Speaker 4: release them to the community, you're going to get exactly
Speaker 4: what you don't want. You're going to put the public
Speaker 4: greater of crime because many will commit another crime. And
Speaker 4: what you're going force ice in the community and will
Speaker 4: find the bad guy. But when we find him, he's
Speaker 4: probably with others, others that aren't a criminal threat, but
Speaker 4: they're in the country. I legally they're going to go
Speaker 4: to because we're not going to turn our back on
Speaker 4: illegal anim once we find it, We're gonna let ice
Speaker 4: do their job and enforced immigration law. So what you
Speaker 4: get being the sanctuary city is exactly what you don't want,
Speaker 4: more officers in the community and more collateral rest because
Speaker 4: we found them while we're looking for the bad guy.
Speaker 4: So we want the sanctuary citi to do one thing.
Speaker 4: Let us in the jail. Let us talk to the
Speaker 4: person that you locked in the jail cell, because obviously
Speaker 4: the public safety tread give us to that person.
Speaker 3: It's safer for everybody. It's the right thing to do.
Speaker 4: And the and the message from sanctuary cities are is this,
Speaker 4: which is which is a bunch of crap.
Speaker 3: Well, we're a sanctuary city.
Speaker 4: We're welcome in jurisdiction because we want illegal aliens to
Speaker 4: feel safe and they want to report crimes or the
Speaker 4: victim of crime to come to us for help without
Speaker 4: the fear of working with ice. That is just that
Speaker 4: is sole false because number one, we don't want to
Speaker 4: talk to victim witness. We want to talk to the
Speaker 4: guy you locked in the jail cell. And if you
Speaker 4: go talk to the victim and witness and ask them
Speaker 4: do you want the bad guy released back in your neighborhood,
Speaker 4: the victim and witness don't want them back either. So
Speaker 4: let us get access to the person locked in that
Speaker 4: tax payer front of jail to help drive crime down
Speaker 4: the neighborhood and make it safe for officers alien in
Speaker 4: the community. It just makes sense to me as a
Speaker 4: career cop. I don't understand why any elective trisher whose
Speaker 4: number one responsibility is protecting their community, why would you
Speaker 4: not work with us to remove a child rapist from
Speaker 4: the community rather than release than back in the community.
Speaker 1: I got about three more questions with you, because I
Speaker 1: know your time is precious and I really appreciate you
Speaker 1: giving me this time. Prior to the election, you pledged
Speaker 1: to conduct the largest deportation in American history. That is
Speaker 1: more than eleven million undocumented immigrants living in the United States.
Speaker 1: Where do we stand today in terms of identifying those
Speaker 1: individuals and deporting them out of the country.
Speaker 4: Great question, because I read a media story this morning.
Speaker 4: We're deporting less people than Joe Biden. Yeah, because Joe
Speaker 4: Biden had millions of people coming across border every year
Speaker 4: and a lot Borgatoes are removing a lot of them,
Speaker 4: So you can't compare. The ministration isn't how many removed,
Speaker 4: it's our number one. How many did you release into
Speaker 4: the country legally and Biden administration is in the millions.
Speaker 4: And the more important question is how many Interior arrests
Speaker 4: people in the interior country due rest. If you look
Speaker 4: at those numbers, we're about three times hired and Joe
Speaker 4: Biden was during the same time period, we got about
Speaker 4: thirty six thousand rest so far vast majority of criminals.
Speaker 4: Because President Trumps promised American people on this mass deportation
Speaker 4: operation the worst first, the criminals first, because they're the
Speaker 4: biggest danger of communities, national security threats, public safety threats.
Speaker 4: That's when we're concentrating on them. But that aperture will
Speaker 4: open to the one point four men that had to
Speaker 4: process a great tax payer expense we're ordering moved, but
Speaker 4: instead of leaving, they became excusitive. That aperture opened up.
Speaker 4: So you want to see the rest increased in the
Speaker 4: very near future. But the problem is sanctuary cities. Sanctuary
Speaker 4: cities are making us less efficient. Well read, in one
Speaker 4: agent arresting one bad guy in the jail, now we've
Speaker 4: got to send a whole team into the neighborhood for
Speaker 4: officer safety reasons to find somebody that want to be found.
Speaker 4: So that's slowing us up. But what we'll do we'll
Speaker 4: double demandforce, those sanctuary cities, will double the teams. We're
Speaker 4: not going to be stopped. We'll overcome all the world
Speaker 4: what rold blocks are putting in. But we're gonna get
Speaker 4: it done.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about in Guatanamo Bay, for example, there's
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of available space, but there are millions
Speaker 1: of immigrants in this country illegally. So I'm saying, if
Speaker 1: you're successful from a deportation standpoint, in terms of locating
Speaker 1: who those individuals are, there's only but so much room
Speaker 1: in Guantanamo Bay.
Speaker 2: Where else are they going to go? What are you
Speaker 2: gonna do with them?
Speaker 4: Another great question I've been on media for the last
Speaker 4: two weeks. Congress needs to fund this operation. We need
Speaker 4: money because you're right, every illegal we arrest we need
Speaker 4: a bed for Our bets are almost.
Speaker 3: Pulled right now.
Speaker 4: So we need money so we can do what the
Speaker 4: American people have voted for. The number one issue was
Speaker 4: illegal immigration, removing criminal alands. So Congress needs to come
Speaker 4: and give us the funding to do this. We need
Speaker 4: to buy more beds, we need to have more out
Speaker 4: out of country of planes. We need more contracts to
Speaker 4: have more contracts. People come in and do the work
Speaker 4: that doesn't require law enforce, not law enforces currently doing.
Speaker 4: So you're exactly right. Congress needs to come through. I'm
Speaker 4: hoping they sign a build today or hopefully tonight. We
Speaker 4: need to build right now, but we need a reconciliation.
Speaker 4: We need money to be successful, because if we more
Speaker 4: money we have, the more successful we're going to be.
Speaker 1: I got admit, mister Home, that should be the easiest
Speaker 1: part of your job. I mean, the president has all
Speaker 1: three branches of government in this favor. I mean the
Speaker 1: GOP has at the White House to send it the House.
Speaker 1: I mean it shouldn't be difficult at this particular moment
Speaker 1: in time for them to give you what you want.
Speaker 2: Since they assigned you to do this job.
Speaker 1: But I want to transition real quick to undocumented workers.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people argue, you know, they've had
Speaker 1: a massive economic benefit. They've been a massive economic benefit
Speaker 1: to this country. They pay taxes, are important to the workforce,
Speaker 1: are less violent than some naturalized citizens.
Speaker 2: That's the things.
Speaker 1: That you keep hearing people say, what role does that
Speaker 1: play in your thinking when it comes to issues of deportation.
Speaker 4: Look if you're in the country legally, you got a problem.
Speaker 4: It's not locy to be here legally. But as you know,
Speaker 4: we're prioritizing worse than the word excusais. And here's the issue.
Speaker 4: I'll use you one example, and this is a true example.
Speaker 4: I had a new roof put on my house two
Speaker 4: years ago.
Speaker 3: I had to call.
Speaker 4: Six companies before I got a company that guaranteed me
Speaker 4: in legal workforce. And one person that showed up was
Speaker 4: a father and son. Father and son used to have
Speaker 4: twenty United States citizen employees. But him and his son
Speaker 4: came by and see kind of just repaired to roof.
Speaker 4: Do we need to replace a rough because him and
Speaker 4: son can't replace whole rough. Here's the story. He told
Speaker 4: me he had to fire twenty USSIS employees because he
Speaker 4: was competing against all these companies had illegal aliens paying
Speaker 4: him you know, seven bucks an hour again on the rough. Well,
Speaker 4: here's playing us system twenty bucks again on the rough.
Speaker 4: People need to understand that no one hires an illegal
Speaker 4: alien on the goodness or heart, so Hartman can pay
Speaker 4: him less, work them further, work them harder, and undercut
Speaker 4: their competition as US citizen employees. Now I'll say this,
Speaker 4: if we need we need that type of staff to
Speaker 4: become this country and work that it's up to Congress
Speaker 4: to make the changes. But we can't condone hiring your
Speaker 4: legal analyst, because that's what drives everything else. When you
Speaker 4: overwhelm the board show with what people call incan immigration,
Speaker 4: just people coming here for better life, people coming for
Speaker 4: a job. But what they need to understand, there's an
Speaker 4: ugly underbelly of that because you when you overwhelm the borderture,
Speaker 4: you type bard throw up what they call innocent immigration.
Speaker 4: It overwhelms the border, to which meetures less agents on
Speaker 4: the border to the rest people smuggling fatanyl. There's less
Speaker 4: people agents on the board to stop the sex trafficking.
Speaker 4: What happened Joe Biden, Joe Biden calls such a huge
Speaker 4: serge and Aligo mcgrason seventy percent of agents were pulled
Speaker 4: off the line to deal with humanitarian christ and deal
Speaker 4: with so called innocent illegal migration. And when they did that,
Speaker 4: what happens dave six hundred percent increase in sex trafficking.
Speaker 4: We had quarter Americans dead from fatanyl. We got a
Speaker 4: record number of people on terras washer scross the border.
Speaker 3: So there's we got to do this legally.
Speaker 4: There are millions of people standing in line right now,
Speaker 4: taking their tests, paying their fees, doing the background investigation.
Speaker 4: Comes to the country the right way, they're sitting in
Speaker 4: the back seat because CIS is overwhelmed with fraudent assignment claims.
Speaker 4: So I get it. If we need a workforce, need
Speaker 4: more workforces in the country, then create a legal program.
Speaker 4: They can come with a visa so they don't have
Speaker 4: to pay a Krimla cartel. They don't have to give
Speaker 4: their whole life savings to put themselves at risk for
Speaker 4: to Krimla cartel and swim across river and drown. So
Speaker 4: the Congress needs do some work. But we can't condone
Speaker 4: illegal migration. We can't condone go ahead and enter the
Speaker 4: country leading and we're not going to be looking for it.
Speaker 4: We got to send a message of the whole world.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a set of rules. There's a right
Speaker 4: way and the wrong way to come to the greatest
Speaker 4: nation on the earth. There's two things. The right way, well,
Speaker 4: I got I gotta look at legislative branch Congress to
Speaker 4: do that. But the meantime, we can't Okay, illegal migration.
Speaker 4: It's a result more people dying, more women being raided,
Speaker 4: more cartels, you know, making more money to come to
Speaker 4: the bloodless country with poisonous patmom.
Speaker 1: Very last question to you, sir, I give you the floor.
Speaker 1: You want America to know what about ICE right now
Speaker 1: today and moving forward.
Speaker 3: I'm sick and tired of reading stories.
Speaker 4: The ICE is going the rage your school, They're going
Speaker 4: to raide your churches, They're doing neighborhood suites. People need
Speaker 4: to understand everybody that ICE arrests, it's based on a
Speaker 4: target enforcement operation, which means they know who they're going
Speaker 4: to rest, they have a pretty good idea where they're going.
Speaker 4: They have to drop an operational plan, so it's not
Speaker 4: neighborhood switees. We're not going through neighborhood looking for people
Speaker 4: different us. And when we got way the sense of
Speaker 4: location policy, we ended it. Why because we have to
Speaker 4: go to a high school arrest a MS thirteen member.
Speaker 4: We know there right now he's a public safety threat.
Speaker 4: We need to go in that high school along with
Speaker 4: the local authorities and arrest that public safety threat. Doesn't
Speaker 4: mean we're going to raide the school, mean we're going
Speaker 4: to arrest the bad guy that's in the high school,
Speaker 4: the same as every other federal law enforces see at
Speaker 4: law enforcement, A and C, state law enforce, a ced
Speaker 4: local They all do it, and I should not have
Speaker 4: a different set of rules. We'll go in to schools,
Speaker 4: arrest a public safety threat, significant public safety threat.
Speaker 3: Churches. We'll never raid at church.
Speaker 4: But if we know there's a national security that we
Speaker 4: know is in a church right now that we're looking for,
Speaker 4: and we know he's sitting there right now, we're going
Speaker 4: to arrest that person. Doesn't mean we're rating school. It
Speaker 4: doesn't mean we're rating church, and we're not rating hospitals,
Speaker 4: which I saw. I see the lost left media saying it.
Speaker 4: They're scaring the immigrant community. I want people to go
Speaker 4: to school, We want people to go see their doctor
Speaker 4: and go to the hospital.
Speaker 3: Go to church.
Speaker 4: We got to straighten that narrative about it's a left
Speaker 4: that are putting fear in the immigrant community. We are
Speaker 4: basing our operators right now the worst of the worst criminals.
Speaker 4: So go to church, go get your medical care, send
Speaker 4: your children to school. We're not rating those places that
Speaker 4: We're doing the same thing every every law enforcement agency
Speaker 4: does it's not sweeps, partner enforcement operation, a lot of planning.
Speaker 4: We do this carefully. The agents are very, very professional.
Speaker 4: So I just wish the left would just state the
Speaker 4: truth and what we're exactly doing. Look at the data,
Speaker 4: as I just said, thirty six thousand arrest, vast majority
Speaker 4: of criminals. We're doing exactly what President Trump said we
Speaker 4: would do, and that what I said we would do.
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Speaker 1: He's the greatest shooter God ever created. And last night
Speaker 1: Steph Curry did something we may never see again. I'll
Speaker 1: get into that and respond.
Speaker 2: To your tweet. All that up next to close out
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Speaker 1: I want to get into the NBA in the history
Speaker 1: we saw last night in San Francisco. That's where the
Speaker 1: one and only Steph Curry. Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday,
Speaker 1: to your Happy birthday. No, I'm not a singer, but
Speaker 1: he did turn thirty seven years of age today and
Speaker 1: the night before as in last night, he made his
Speaker 1: four thousandth three point shot. So let's put this smile
Speaker 1: tone into this proper perspective.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 1: You may recall that Steph broke the NBA's all time
Speaker 1: three point shooting record three years ago when he passed
Speaker 1: Ray Allen's mark of nine hundred and seventy three back
Speaker 1: in December of twenty and twenty one. Steph has sent
Speaker 1: It's made more than one thousand threes and he's still going.
Speaker 2: Ladies, gentlemen, he just turned thirty seven today. As I
Speaker 2: started off three seasons ago, he had reached the three
Speaker 2: thousand career mark on three pointers.
Speaker 1: He's averaging eleven point two to three point attempts per
Speaker 1: game this year, making four point four to three pointers
Speaker 1: per game, right, and those attempts are second to LaMelo Ball.
Speaker 1: And also Steph is shooting a here under forty percent
Speaker 1: from three for the season. Some people have said the
Speaker 1: real question is can occur? Can can Steph Curry reach
Speaker 1: five thousand and three pointers? Let's put this in this
Speaker 1: proper perspective. First, okay, do y'all understand that right now,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry is eight hundred and seventy three. He has
Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy three more three pointers than any
Speaker 1: play in NBA history James Harden. Second, you see his
Speaker 1: resume right there. Four time champion, two time MVP, ten
Speaker 1: time All Star, All NBA First Team four times, eleven
Speaker 1: time NBA All Star, two All Star Game MVPs, two
Speaker 1: time NBA Scoring Champion, NBA seventy fifth Anniversary Team Olympic
Speaker 1: gold medalist in twenty twenty four. The resume is impeccable.
Speaker 1: It's otherworldly. We all know this, okay, But with eight
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three more three pointers than any player
Speaker 1: in NBA history. Second is James Harden. Let's not forget that.
Speaker 1: His three point percent is shooting forty two point four percent,
Speaker 1: third all time with the minimum of twenty five hundred
Speaker 1: attempts free throw percent of shooting ninety one point one percent.
Speaker 1: That's the best in NBA history, and his true shooting
Speaker 1: percentage is eighth all time at sixty two and a
Speaker 1: half percent. The brother is on another level. He's one
Speaker 1: of seven players in NBA history with at least four
Speaker 1: championships and two League MVP Awards. Bill Russell, kareemambdu Jabal,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Tim Duncan, and Lebron James are
Speaker 1: the other six. All right, that's who we're talking about
Speaker 1: when we talk about Steph Curry. And I bring all
Speaker 1: of that up to you and I throw out that resume.
Speaker 1: I have a very very very simple question.
Speaker 2: A does he belong in to God conversation. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: not saying he's the goat.
Speaker 1: That means when you mentioned the goat, or you have
Speaker 1: a conversation about the goat, you do need to consider
Speaker 1: the greatest shooter God has ever created, who's a four
Speaker 1: time champion and the two top League MVP and NBA
Speaker 1: Finals MVP, a gold medalist.
Speaker 2: You kind of need to think about these things.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that was sacrilegious in a
Speaker 1: lot of people's eyes is when I brought up is
Speaker 1: he the greatest point guard ever?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: My man Eddie Johnson on NBA Radio and others, was like,
Speaker 1: that's just sacrilegious. Magic Johnson is the greatest point guard
Speaker 1: we've ever seen, John Stockton, Isaiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, Gary Payton,
Speaker 1: and others, Chris Paul, the point.
Speaker 2: God himself, CP three, they're all up there.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about quit the central prototypical point guards.
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying, ladies and gentlemen. I'm saying,
Speaker 2: if you look at Magic Johnson, let's take into account
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson, who's five five championships, okay, five championships, nine
Speaker 2: NBA Finals appearances.
Speaker 1: We get that part right. Here's what I want y'all
Speaker 1: to think about. I'm not talking quin the central prototypical
Speaker 1: point guard that's setting up others.
Speaker 2: That's not what I mean with Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about impact on an offense. Magic Johnson six'
Speaker 1: nine with with with three eyes for crying out, loud
Speaker 1: one in the back of his head to in the, front,
Speaker 1: okay with a sixth sense about, him just a sublime
Speaker 1: point guard affected the game in a myriad of ways
Speaker 1: that led to. Championships, well what the hell Has Steph curry?
Speaker 1: Done Steph curry has had people in the hospital receiving oxygen.
Speaker 2: Because AS. J.
Speaker 1: R smith once, Told Matthew, delavadovo almost dies Chasing Steph
Speaker 1: curry around all game.
Speaker 2: Long every defense has to.
Speaker 1: Keep its collective head on a, swivel trying to find
Speaker 1: where he is at all times because he can pull
Speaker 1: up from. Anywhere his conditioning is top notch compared to.
Speaker 1: Anybody at age thirty, six he just dropped fifty six
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Ago he's been averaging over thirty
Speaker 1: Sins Jimmy butler. Arrived and by the, way with all
Speaker 1: that being, said he is the only player IN nba
Speaker 1: history that you literally have to man up in guard
Speaker 1: the second he.
Speaker 2: Steps past half. Court that is how. Lethal the Great
Speaker 2: Steph curry is an has. Been it is who he.
Speaker 2: Is he's that, Phenomenal he's that.
Speaker 1: Great so, Again Magic johnson doing what he does impact
Speaker 1: compared To Steph curry doing what he does, impact what.
Speaker 2: Would you rather? Have it's a legitimate.
Speaker 1: Question Lebron james my number two all, TIME mj my
Speaker 1: number one BECAUSE mj at his, BEST i believe is
Speaker 1: the Greatest i've ever seen in my. Life and, oh
Speaker 1: by the, way let's not even Bring Steph curry into
Speaker 1: the category of.
Speaker 2: Him when it comes to, Defense.
Speaker 1: Lebron shows you what he can, do but he doesn't
Speaker 1: do it often enough defensively throughout his, career which is
Speaker 1: another REASON i got a number.
Speaker 2: Two but he's still number.
Speaker 1: Two because we see what The lakers look like Without
Speaker 1: Lebron james at age forty in his twenty second, season
Speaker 1: no doubt about. It and needless to, Say i'm just
Speaker 1: being showing my. Professionalism i'm obvious in no mood to
Speaker 1: show him any kind of. Love but we gotta be.
Speaker 1: Honest i'm never gonna. Lie the man is that, phenomenal
Speaker 1: got him.
Speaker 2: Number two all.
Speaker 1: Time But shaq is, right we gotta look At Steph
Speaker 1: curry a little, differently. Y'all it can't just be, well
Speaker 1: he is a great, shooter.
Speaker 2: And that's all there.
Speaker 1: Is his movement without the, basketball his ball handling, skills
Speaker 1: his ability to create his own shot off the dribble from,
Speaker 1: ten twenty, thirty, forty damn, it sometimes fifty and sixty.
Speaker 2: Feet he's that, great he's that. Spectacular we got to
Speaker 2: give it to.
Speaker 1: Him and when we got to give it to him
Speaker 1: on that, level we got to ask, ourselves.
Speaker 2: Where do you put?
Speaker 1: Him if we're gonna talk About kobe top five and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about The Tim dunkans of the world top,
Speaker 1: five how we summarily dismissed the notion Of Steph curry
Speaker 1: being in that? Conversation definitely top? Ten and then if
Speaker 1: you're gon't say top, ten who do you take out of?
Speaker 2: It who take? Out do you take?
Speaker 1: Out duncan take Out, bird take Out? Kobe who's you take?
Speaker 1: Out who you gonna take? Out we got to ask
Speaker 1: ourselves these, questions won't? You we got to ask ourselves these.
Speaker 1: Questions All i'm.
Speaker 2: Saying is he warrants a legitimate discussion.
Speaker 1: Because it's undeniable that he now belongs in the. Conversation
Speaker 1: if we're able to call him the greatest Shooter god
Speaker 1: has ever.
Speaker 2: Created as A i, mean.
Speaker 1: If you're going to be in the goat, conversation don't
Speaker 1: you have to be the goat in? Something he's the
Speaker 1: goat when it comes to. SHOOTING i know about the
Speaker 1: resume Of Kareem. JABAR i know about the eleven championships
Speaker 1: in thirteen years From Bill. RUSSELL i know about how
Speaker 1: rules have to be changed because of the greatness Of, chamberlain.
Speaker 2: Even though you only had two. TITLES i Know Tim
Speaker 2: duncan's greatest power forward that ever.
Speaker 1: Lived yannis at some point is gonna belong in the
Speaker 1: conversation in a lot of people's. Eyes Steph Curry, man
Speaker 1: it's just Special salu on his thirty seventh, birthday we
Speaker 1: can give him nothing but. Praise he is that. Phenomenal he,
Speaker 1: truly truly. Is happy, birthday my, brother and congratulations to.
Speaker 1: You now let's get to some of the tweets FOR
Speaker 1: i get on out of here for. Today, Okay so
Speaker 1: here we got this, Here these people come up with this.
Speaker 1: STUFF i just don't understand. That Captain america Versus Red.
Speaker 1: Hulk i'm gonna Pick Red, Hulk okay THAT i, Mean
Speaker 1: Captain america have mad love for, you but damn, it that's.
Speaker 2: The hulk right.
Speaker 1: There thor Versus. Loki of, Course i'm gonna go With.
Speaker 1: Thor Spider man Versus. Venom you, Know venom with them teeth,
Speaker 1: Though Spider webs ain't gonna hold, him, MAN i can't see.
Speaker 1: That i'm gonna go With venom on that. One and
Speaker 1: Then Iron man Versus. Thanos thanos is. SUPERHUMAN i, Mean
Speaker 1: i'm gonna go with, Him, Okay so then we go from.
Speaker 1: There so we Got Red, Holp, Thor, venom And. Thanos
Speaker 1: i'm gonna Pick thanos Over. Venom i'm gonna Pick thor
Speaker 1: over The Red hult Because Red Red holt couldn't even
Speaker 1: lift his, hammer couldn't even lift the. Hammer i'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with that right AFTER i do.
Speaker 2: That so now we got With thor going up Against.
Speaker 1: Fennos, y'all, Y'all thor couldn't mess With thanos until he had.
Speaker 2: Help i'm gonna go With.
Speaker 1: Thanos, remember When thanos beat up the Whole hulk was
Speaker 1: throwing them, around and they were, like just wait for,
Speaker 1: it Because thanos was just toying with, him taking like
Speaker 1: looking at the, shots looking at all the effort he
Speaker 1: was put forth fact like he was hurting. Them then
Speaker 1: he just beat him. Up remember when he choked and Strangled.
Speaker 1: Loki remember When thor was. Helpless but to watch that
Speaker 1: the dude to go to it's gonna it took all
Speaker 1: of them to stop. Him So i'm gonna go With.
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Speaker 1: Smith if you could bring back any elite team from
Speaker 1: two thousand to two thy and twenty.
Speaker 2: Four which team would it? Be and? Why that's a
Speaker 2: hard one.
Speaker 1: Because for, ME i Loved shaq And kobe and the
Speaker 1: crew IN la at the beginning of the. CENTURY i
Speaker 1: Loved lebron with D wade and those boys In.
Speaker 2: Miami you, KNOW.
Speaker 1: I gotta say that because it WAS i, Mean miami
Speaker 1: is just a, special special, place and it was all
Speaker 1: Because lebron elected to go, there And lebron and D
Speaker 1: wade and those boys were In. Miami those some of
Speaker 1: the best years of my. Life AND i just want
Speaker 1: to say that some best years my. Life i'm. Reminiscent come,
Speaker 1: on star come On. Starve that's number. Two having said,
Speaker 1: that believe it or, not though that first year should
Speaker 1: say the first, Year but WHEN kd arrived In Golden
Speaker 1: state AND kd was with The Splash, brothers.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 2: SPECIAL i confront that was.
Speaker 1: Special it's, hard, Man But i'm gonna SAY la With
Speaker 1: kobe And shaq and the crew because they MADE i,
Speaker 1: mean WHEN kd went To Golden, state it was such
Speaker 1: it flipped so dramatically the balance of. Power it didn't
Speaker 1: even make no sense to. Watch, okay and they were
Speaker 1: very entertaining this with this nipeer light tendencies or, whatever
Speaker 1: but them it it was almost. Unfair but WHEN i
Speaker 1: watched The lakers With kobe And shaq And orion And
Speaker 1: shaw And Derek fish and the, crew let me tell y'all.
Speaker 2: SOMETHING i was In sacramento for That.
Speaker 1: Game seven for their second, championship when they Had Mike
Speaker 1: bibbie AND C webb And volati d v at all Those.
Speaker 2: CATS i was. There it's twenty three years, later.
Speaker 1: Y'all it's top two or three or one of the
Speaker 1: greatest basketball Environments i've ever experienced in my. Life WHEN
Speaker 1: i was In sacramento for That game, seven it was
Speaker 1: spectacular and the series was big time. Two i'm just saying.
Speaker 1: That i'm just.
Speaker 2: Saying that's it for this dedition to The STEVEN. A Smith.
Speaker 1: SHOW i hope you all enjoyed. It and thanks again
Speaker 1: to Mister Tom holman for coming on the. Show the
Speaker 1: borders are for coming on The STEPHEN.
Speaker 2: A Smith.
Speaker 1: Show he didn't have to do, that ladies and. Gentlemen
Speaker 1: he's a busy man with a busy. Schedule he don't
Speaker 1: have time to play. Games he's on a. Mission but
Speaker 1: he took time to come on this, show AND i
Speaker 1: really really appreciate. It so thank thank you again to
Speaker 1: Mister Tom holman for taking time out of his very
Speaker 1: busy schedule to join the STEPHEN.
Speaker 2: A Smith.
Speaker 1: Show hope y'all enjoyed the, show and hope y'all enjoy
Speaker 1: absolutely wonderful and fruitful week and be blessed to be
Speaker 1: safe Until. Monday i'll see.
Speaker 2: Y'all peace of, love, everybody