1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: We had already seen the gutlet like we've already seen 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Big Bean. Then we had to see Tom Brady. We 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: wasn't really scared of Cam at all. Tom Brady was 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: the man. So if we got past tom Brady and Gronk, 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: we fla. Oh nahs, ain't nobody beating us. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in, Peanut to me, and this is 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: the NFL Players Second Act podcast. 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: We're in La. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I got my guy, my uncle, the nephew, the everything 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: you want, the. 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Great Beard and everything, my guy Roman Harbor. What's up, baby? 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: What's up? 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know I could be your uncle and your 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: nephew at the same time. This is some really crazy 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Southern thing going on right now. But thank you for 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: ever all the time, for always being there. All of 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: our guests that's always tuned in, whether you're watching or 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: listening wherever you pick up your podcast that whether it's 19 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: Apple Podcast, iHeartRadio, Give us a like, a follow, give 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: us a review. Do all those little things continue to 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: spread the word. Tell a friend to tell a friend. Peanut, 22 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: who is our guest today, We got a good one 23 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: super Bowl champion. He is a part of the infamous 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: No Fly Zone defense. 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: He is an undrafted guy. He was he made the 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 3: All Decade twenty ten team. 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: Uh. 28 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: He's from Kansas. He's an entrepreneur. 29 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Chris Harris Junior to the podcast. 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: You know, I've gotta be honest. You know, that was 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: pretty good. 32 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: You never he hasn't really done that for a lot 33 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: of our guests, so that was good. 34 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: I got a gat. I'm feeling the energy right now. 35 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: It's love. It's all love. 36 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: Like I did my yoga this morning. I got my 37 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: tea right here. It's I'm feeling it right now. 38 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: dB. Love to be love too. That's it. That's true. 39 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: That's true. I mean, I'm with it. He said, you're 40 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: from Kansas, but you're from Oklahoma. 41 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well he went to Kansas, which is cool to you. 42 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: That's why I want to get to Yeah, and you 43 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: started all four years. 44 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I went in KU. You know they they 45 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: had to leave at one corner and. 46 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: He was he on, like your recruit visit. I want 47 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: to know if recruit visit to Kansas that he wouldn't. 48 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Man. When I went on my visit the KU, I 49 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: was probably I didn't have any offers until probably basketball 50 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: season really really more basketball. Yeah, okay, so I had 51 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: more basketball offers first, and. 52 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: That was not in the bio. Yeah. Yeah, people don't 53 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: know that I got out of store, see that. 54 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: So, man, Gino came to our basketball practice and that's 55 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: when I got offered. And then during this it was 56 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: like a dead season. Nobody was on campus at that time. Yeah, 57 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: so I went. I kind of went like a sneaky 58 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: visit when nobody was up there. It was probably like 59 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: a couple of players that from Kansas that had me 60 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: on the video. 61 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 62 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: I didn't see to leave until I got until I 63 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: pulled up the campus. But it was just you know, 64 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: it was just a great spot for me be able 65 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: to go and play early and play in All Americans 66 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: because he was All American at the time and in 67 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: his senior year. So it was just a great opportunity 68 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: to go up there and compete. 69 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: So what made you choose football over basketball? You always 70 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: knew you were a football guy. 71 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: Oh, Man, I just knew I wasn't growing. Yeah, man, 72 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't growing as much as everybody else. 73 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: You know. 74 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: You see you see the point guards, You're not too 75 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: many five eleven point guards. 76 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 3: So I just thought football would be my best way 77 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: to go. 78 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: And I never really played corner until I got to college. 79 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: So seriously, yeah, so I didn't know if I was 80 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: gonna play what position in college? You know, So coaches 81 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: just like, we'll just find you by the defense athlete 82 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: he be, and and that's pretty much how. I just 83 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: went in there and just went in there and started 84 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: that corner. 85 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 3: That's that's what's up. So what did you play in 86 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: high school? Was it confused? 87 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: I just played safety, man, I just was like a 88 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: free just wrong, you know, and just go back, go 89 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: find the ball. 90 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: You know, Hey, it worked out? This is a true 91 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: Is it worked out? How this is? I don't know 92 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: how that happens. 93 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: Like I'm not only have football scholarship, I'm playing basketball. 94 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: They see me, Hey, look, we just gonna find you 95 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: a spot out here, athlete. 96 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: For you specifically? 97 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: Does it ever get tiring of you being asked about 98 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: being the undrafted free agent guy that made it bah 99 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: blah blah, or are you just like, hey, look, I'm 100 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: just this football player that made it, probably broke through 101 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: some odds, but this is who I am and this 102 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: is who I be. But you after hearing your high 103 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: school story, I'm sure you don't. 104 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh man, it's just uh, it's just part of my journey, 105 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, especially within the NFL circle. You know, a 106 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of guys know how I came in the league. 107 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: You know, I think I had. 108 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: I had one of the lowest signing moments two thousand 109 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, one of the last guys picked up on 110 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: our team. 111 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: Sorry to Laught, Sorry Laught. You know that's how we do, Ricky. Yeah, 112 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: you gotta come out there. You got to stand up. 113 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: On that chair. 114 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Two thousand dollars, Cansas University. 115 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: The clown had some good vets, you know. 116 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: I had Dawkins, yeah, champ Uh, you know, Boomerville, DJ Williams, Yeah, yeah, 117 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: a lot of good vets. 118 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: So Hall of famers, Yeah, a lot of good vets. Man. 119 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: So they didn't really clown me too much. They kind 120 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: of took me in, you know, couldn't have took care 121 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: of me like a. 122 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: Little like a little little brother man, because they know 123 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: you ain't had no bread, champions, no money. 124 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Come on, take care of him, man, So he had 125 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: tons of money, take care of. 126 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: I like that. I like that. 127 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: So are you officially done with football? And what are 128 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: you keeping busy with? Now outside of some other things, 129 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: we'll go in. 130 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to kind of stay I wanted to 131 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: stay in shape and stay ready to go last year 132 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: just in case, because I felt like the year before, 133 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: even with New Orleans, I still play solid. I thought 134 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: I would be able to get picked up places safety 135 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: or Nickel. 136 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: I don't be like Jackson Kareem Jackson. Yeah, I didn't 137 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: even get a chance to do that. 138 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: You know, and I'm probably one of the top tacklers 139 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: in my era go back and look. But it's just, 140 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, just not having the opportunity. That was probably 141 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: one thing I was probably regretting, not being able to 142 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: play safety a little bit like a Ryan Day getting 143 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: a chancefer from Nick you know what I mean. I 144 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: didn't get that opportunity. 145 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: A lot of cats got to steal like four or 146 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: five years off of that. Yeah, I didn't get a 147 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: chance like straight twelve years straight corner, you know what 148 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 3: I mean. 149 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I could have played safety, but my 150 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: knees couldn't let me. That is interesting. So how many 151 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: corners do you guys think? Both you guys, how many corners? 152 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Looking like you know, when I'm done playing corner, I 153 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: want to transition and play safety. 154 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: It's a few years in. Rod Woodson he was the 155 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: first to do it. 156 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: That I. 157 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: First, Rod Woodson, Charles Charles, Charles Woodson did it? 158 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: Did it? 159 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: Kareem Jackson's doing it currently? Yep, ma am I drawing 160 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: a blank. Southern Hall of Fame aneas Williams's Williams, heang, 161 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: it's killing me. Would you count Winfield and he played 162 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: Nickel more, I wouldn't say he played safety though, but. 163 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: Does Nickel Grande? I mean Ronde is another one too, Yeah, Ronne. 164 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: I just wanted to know, like from a cornerback's perspective, who, like, 165 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: do you guys actually think about these things? I never 166 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: thought about it, I mean, because you don't get to 167 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: go from safety. 168 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: To the corner. 169 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: So I said it when I played, But looking back 170 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: on it now, if given the opportunity, if if it 171 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: would have gotten me another year or two, I definitely 172 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: would have played safety for sure. 173 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. 174 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean I thought for sure I was gonna go 175 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: play safety, you know, just being able to have the football, IQ, 176 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: being able to tackle in space, understand the game, I 177 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: thought i'd be It would be a smooth transition to safety, 178 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, just the way it is. 179 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: You know how the league is now. They're getting more 180 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: of the veterans out. 181 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: If you look at it, look at the free agent list, 182 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: it's all vents, you know something. So that's just the 183 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: way the NFL is going right now. And that's just 184 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: probably my only regret. But I had a hell of 185 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: a time at Corner, you know, yeah, playing a great year. 186 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: He had a great career, kind of kind of reforming 187 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: the nickel right, because in my air, I would say 188 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't too me Nicholas playing straight man. Say hey, coach, 189 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: you can play couple one all day in the nickel 190 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: and have this guy covered these guys, you know, Ron 191 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: Day and them was more of a there was a 192 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: zone zone, vision break, things like that. So I didn't 193 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: really get to do that too much in my career. 194 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: That's probably another thing I regret. Like Petera got to 195 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: see the ball a lot, you know. 196 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he got I totally agree with you. 197 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: I played going from a man to man scheme for 198 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: a majority of my career, then all of a sudden 199 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: going to his own teams, Like man, I didn't know 200 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: it was so much easier. It just feels so much 201 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: more comfortab when you got to see the ball and 202 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: it slows down because you see more, you get more information, 203 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: You get a ton of information. So people you used 204 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: to always talk about how coverage are y'all just a 205 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: curve of two team? We might be, but I guarantee 206 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: you you ain't gonna play cover two like we played, 207 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: because it's gonna give us picks forrest fumbles, take ways 208 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: forst fumbles, take ways we. 209 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: Off the fill on third down. 210 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: Rod Mayor Nell used to always say, if you can, 211 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: we used to do nine on seven cover two. 212 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: Every time. 213 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: He was like, if you can play cover two and 214 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: stop the run and stop the run, you can stop anybody. 215 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: And we just hey, I'm tell you the call curve two. Hey, y'all, 216 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: guess what the call is? Curver two. And that was 217 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: how we ran the defense. And so it was a 218 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: bonus when you played Cover one or Cover four or 219 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: whatever else. You know your bliss, You got what's the 220 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: corner opposite of you. 221 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: Because he was always one of the guys I always 222 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: looked up to him. 223 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: Tim Jennings Jennings, Yeah, a little short guy, Georgia. 224 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have to lead off with a little 225 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 3: short guys. You have to. 226 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: Well that was our relationship because he was a little 227 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: like a little short guy. 228 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: He is shorter though, Tim is short. I know Tim. 229 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: It's love Tim, you know I love you. Bro shout 230 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: out them had boss skills. Man, Why you call him 231 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: out like that? Man, I called about you just said it, 232 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: you know what. I tried to just fly under the 233 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: radar like he did when he. 234 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: Was like, oh yeah, so you know I own a 235 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: couple of Nike houses, Nake warehouses. 236 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got some real estate. So let's let's 237 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: dive into that. 238 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: Uh how do you get in the Nike owning a 239 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: Nike warehouse? We were talking about this earlier and like 240 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: that's just not your normal real estate. 241 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I got into it early. 242 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: You know early, man, my team was able to find 243 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: some great opportunity to be able to get in and 244 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: be able. 245 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: To get some warehouses. 246 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: Really it's it's it's pretty much they hold all their 247 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: stuff there, and right I get to hold the hold 248 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: the building, you know, make sure everything's good, make sure 249 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: everything is disputed shipped out right. And man, that we 250 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: probably my financial of Isa Mark Quay, he probably got 251 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: me hooked up in that one. Probably like twenty sixteen 252 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. Yeah, and just being able to 253 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: hop in on those being able to get land. I 254 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: got tons of land in Oklahoma and take a lot 255 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: of man it is and now they're they really rebuilding 256 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: a lot of it, right because you know, we had 257 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: that toss up Massac in nineteen hundreds, right, trying to 258 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: bring that back. So yeah, so I got a lot 259 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: of land into that. So hopefully we'll be able to 260 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: develop some new things for our people down There'll be 261 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: able to help that grow. But it's just you know, 262 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: with me, it's just been taking my time, you know, 263 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: just taking my time finding the right things. You want 264 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: to find the right partners in every situation because that's 265 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: when bad deals and things happen. 266 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: Right. 267 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: I never was the person. I always had to learn 268 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: because you know, I came to the league with two 269 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars coming up. I didn't come in the league 270 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: with twenty million dollars sign upon this. 271 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: You know, I call that you're the guy who's you're 272 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: not from the lucky financial sperm bank. 273 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, So I had to learn how to budget, 274 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: had to manage my money, had to be able to 275 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: say no, you know, at a fast at a fast 276 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: pace because I didn't have it, Like nobody could just 277 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: call me Chris, give me, send me some money. I'm like, 278 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: I'm undrafted, y'all see what I got. So it kind 279 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: of helped me in that way too, but it really 280 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: helped me down into the line now where I'm about 281 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: to be. I'm done now, I'm a year out now, 282 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: so now I kind of have a little bit more establishment. 283 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes, for those that don't know, and y'all you listening, 284 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: got to learn to say no and what saying no means. 285 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: Any family member, relative, cousin, best. 286 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: Friend, someone you went to high school, grade school, you 287 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: gotta tell him no because at some point in time, 288 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: if you're the guy that says, you know what, he. 289 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: Would never do that, she would never do that, you're wrong. 290 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Somebody, At some moment in time, somebody's gonna ask you 291 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: for some money. 292 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 3: Quick question. 293 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: I want to follow with what's been your favorite business 294 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: venture since getting to real estate? 295 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 3: In business? What's been your favorite one? Like, man, this 296 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: is this is really cool, It is really fun. Like 297 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: what man? Just getting the land? Man? 298 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I think yeah, getting land that my people's had lost, 299 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, over just not being able to read simple 300 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: things like that. So being able to get that back 301 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: put the horses and stuff on there. You know, that's 302 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: been the funnest part right there. That's dope be to 303 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: just rebuy the stuff back from yeah loss. So now 304 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: that's the whole generational wolf. 305 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: And you can just pass it on in kids, grandkids, yeah, uncles, cousins, whoever. 306 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: So you keep it all in the family. 307 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: How important would it be though, because you talked about 308 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: how they lost it, and so as you want to 309 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: get this back and then keep it in your family 310 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: to make sure they understand how they lost it, and 311 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: so making sure you're having that conversation. 312 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: How important of a piece is that because you talked 313 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: about how. 314 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: You and your financial player, financial advisor, you know, you 315 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: guys some really smart decisions and things that he's you know, 316 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 2: pushed you into and you've got to learn so much 317 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: about these things. How important is it going forward to 318 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: make sure that your next generation of your children or 319 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: your children's children understand what all this intels. 320 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: And that's a key thing because you know, they grow up, 321 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: key thing, because you know they grow up. They didn't 322 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: grow up how we grew up. You have a group 323 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, our kids are privileged. Their privileged kids, private 324 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: school kids. Yeah. 325 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Wi Fi baby. 326 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I passed early. You know, just taking 327 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: them back there, let them see it. Taking them when 328 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: I have events, uh you know, for for homeless or 329 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: anything like that, for community events, taking them there with me. 330 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: Let them put in the work too, you know, and 331 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: letting them see things. You know, if old are your kids, man, 332 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: I have a I have five kids who I have 333 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: a nine to seven five for and uh. 334 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: One okay, came forget the one came to get. 335 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: The one that's but yeah, you know, just showing and 336 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: they all girls. So I try to take them girl 337 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: dad okay, Yeah, So I try to take them to 338 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: the events and things like that. When we're doing uh 339 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: my wife's done that. She's doing a great job just 340 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: helping them develop them and be women. Know, like hey, 341 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: when I take them there and letting them know, like 342 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: this whole area, all these lands was y'all was our 343 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: land at one point, right, So just letting them know 344 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: because we have a we have our own family cemetery 345 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: things like that. 346 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: Wow, it was just our own just my family, just 347 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: our family. 348 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: You got those deep Oklahoma, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. I 349 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: think it's so cute cool that you make sure you 350 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: maintained by taking them back. My you know, my dad's 351 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: from the middle of nowhere, Alabama and they call it 352 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: like the black Belt. So every time we've gone back, 353 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: it's kind of similar what you're saying. He's like, he's 354 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: shown my kids where like his great grandfather was buried, yeah, 355 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: in the cemetery, and like, oh, this is his uncle 356 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: and this is a brother that died when he was 357 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: very young, and just kind of making sure you know 358 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: all these things to be able to pay it forward 359 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: and that you you don't just kind of just just 360 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: kind of skip over these things. I think it's very 361 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: important that you continue to let your kids and your 362 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: daughters know all that stuff. Really cool that your wife 363 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: continued to support you too. I've I've read a little 364 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: bit on her too, and we'll get into that. What's 365 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: the name of the show on the Paramount with Kevin 366 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: Costner and he's got the big ranch in Montana. 367 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: Yellowstone Yellowstone. 368 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you like the black version of Yellowstone, Like you 369 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: keep it in this family, keeping it all in. 370 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: I like that. That's that's what's up. That's what's up. Yeah, 371 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: we'll be back in a minute, all right, So let. 372 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: Me let me pivot and change it real quick. So 373 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: this is our first time meeting. We played against each 374 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: other super Bowl fifty Now after all these years. 375 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: Do you still hold true to what you said? 376 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: You know, after the postgame, the postgame interviews, you were 377 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: saying some words. I don't think you were talking trash 378 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: or anything like that. You were just speaking, you know. 379 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: He was telling them about their game. People, was just 380 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: telling about the game playing. 381 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Cam might have got a little 382 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: salty about it because the way the the way the 383 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: setup was your I guess your section was like right 384 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: literally right next to his. It was behind the bad setup, 385 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: back to back with just a little sheet in between. 386 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: And nobody knows that who's on the other side. 387 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: That was a bad set up, and he had he 388 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: had heard it, and I'm pretty sure he felt some 389 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: type of way, and then he ended up walking on 390 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: stage like this. Do you still you still hold true 391 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: to how you felt and what you said and how 392 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: that whole thing carried out or played out. 393 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: I never knew it was, honestly, I never knew Camp 394 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: was on the other side. 395 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was just talking mess you know, yeah, 396 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: which you should. Yeah, you know that was the game plan. Yeah, 397 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: it's it was a good game. Heat, I hate to 398 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: say it, bring the heat. 399 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: They always kind of always what do you call it, 400 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: have chippers in the back. They always had extra blockers 401 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: in the back of the camp play action, extra blockers 402 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: for camp, try to get funtions Brown and take again 403 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: on space one on one routes. Right, So when they 404 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: did that, we would just bring the linebackers late. Just 405 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: keep bringing them late, non stop, just keep bringing them late. 406 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: And we know Cam likes to hold the ball a 407 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: little bit longer. Yeah, so we just late delayed, blitz 408 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: them all games, play man the man press, get up 409 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: in them and we felt like but like me, Roby 410 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: and to leave could cover Tech Gang, Funches and Brown 411 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: and Olsen And that was the game plan, you know, 412 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: and sick them dogs on them, sick d where von 413 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: Malik Jackson. 414 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: I was so mad that game because we was what 415 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: seventeen and one at that point, you know, I would 416 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: I want to know Chris's opinion because I know you 417 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: guys won the game, but if we played ten times, 418 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: how many times do you guys beat that team? 419 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: And I didn't even play that game. 420 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: I would say, depending on okay, is Peyton gonna be healthy? 421 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: Because he was not healthy. Was not what I'm saying. 422 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: He was not healthy. He was he couldn't throw the 423 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: ball thirty yards. So if we got a healthy Peyton 424 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: many I don't know. 425 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, and we can't play all in 426 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: Denver too. I watched We're not playing all in Denver. 427 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: I go back there, I go back and I look 428 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: at that game. Number one, you guys out played us 429 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: all right. Number two, I thought you guys out coached us, 430 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: and we're better prepared for all the situations. You guys 431 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 2: made adjustments better than we did. I give you all 432 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: the credit for winning the game. But I look up 433 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: and I still like, there's no way that team was 434 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: better than our team. I don't care if Brock Oswald 435 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: or Peyton man it was playing quarterback. 436 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: It was just so. 437 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: Brandon was like, but that kind of lets you know 438 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: exactly the team that plays the best that day is 439 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: the one that wins. And these guys, you guys played 440 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: better period, and so but I look back and I'm like, 441 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: I think if we played them ten times, they may 442 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: win three. 443 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 3: We felt like our defense is the best. It was. 444 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 3: You guys definitely balled. We felt like it wasn't nobody. 445 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: We had already seen the gutlet like, we've already seen 446 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: big being. Then we had to see Tom Brady and 447 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: the ain't going to see We wasn't really scared of 448 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: Cam at all, right, because we had already seen Tom 449 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: Brady was the man. So if we got past Tom 450 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: Brady and Gronk, we f like, oh no, ain't nobody 451 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: beating us? 452 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: Right. 453 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: The first Super Bowl that we had, we had twelve 454 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: starters on defense that didn't play against Seattle. That people 455 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: forget about that, right, Me and Van didn't play a 456 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of a lot of our defensive 457 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: starters didn't play in that game. So we wanted. We 458 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: was hungry to get to that second one. And it 459 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: was a long If people go back and look at 460 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: that season, right, a lot of our mishaps happened because Peyton, 461 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, pay no doubt, he was hurt. You know, 462 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: we had to bring in broad Bracket did a solid 463 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: job coming in, but that was the main issue was 464 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: is Peyton gonna be healthy? 465 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: Right? So we got them healthy enough at the end 466 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: to be able to ride that wave. 467 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: At no doubt we knew that defense, Yes, we knew 468 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: that defense was gonna carry us there, and we felt 469 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: like we was nobody could touch us on defense. 470 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: That sounded like Chicago. We was always talking about the defense. 471 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: You know, love Smith will come in games and say, 472 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: I remember when Pep first got to Pep, when we 473 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: got Pep from Charlotte. We're playing the game or was 474 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: game week, and Lovely Smith comes in the defensive meeting 475 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: room and he goes, all right, defense, we got to 476 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: score two to and then he leaves and then Pep goes, hey, Yo, 477 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: what are you talking bout? 478 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: Yo? 479 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: What about the offense? I was like, won't care about 480 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: the offense. We gotta score points on defense, and if 481 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: we score points, will win. That's the Chicago man, that's 482 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: just the Marnins the main way, that's what we do. 483 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: And he was so intrigued by that, but he was 484 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: also mad. He was like, but they paid him money 485 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: though they got us score points. But that was just 486 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: the mindset of how we were in Chicago. It was 487 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: just like, no, it's it's a defensive city. We're defense first. 488 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 2: We don't care about offenses. We got to get these 489 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: points and it carried over. 490 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: Well. They scored that game too, so yeah, I give 491 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: you guys credit. You guys scored. You did score twice. 492 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 3: There it is. It's dam He just stuck that key and. 493 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Just Cam fumbled. They Ward could have picked it up 494 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: and scored. We could have had two touchdowns. 495 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he got it on like the three of 496 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 2: the four ight as well have been a defensive touchdown yea, 497 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: I forgot. 498 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: About that one. 499 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did score before that, So I think 500 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: your defense actually outscored our offense that game. 501 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: MA think we had like three or four Yeah, three 502 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: or four turnovers for sure. Yeah, let's switch the subject. 503 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: Switch the not mad. I'm not mad. 504 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: Y'all had a great defense too, Like the Panthers was 505 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: like one or two. Y'all were right there. What is 506 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: y'all would have been one scoring? I think scoring y'all 507 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: might have been number one. Giving up points and stuff 508 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: like that and then yards and stuff. I think everything 509 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: else was us. But y'all were tough too, man. Luke 510 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Kinckley and Josh was playing great. Yeah, man, y'all had 511 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: a solid secondary along with the D line was crazy. 512 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: So y'all definitely had a squad man it was you know, 513 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: he just ran up against one of the top defenses. 514 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, man von Miller. He owned that game. He did. 515 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: All right, I'm ready to move on there. 516 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: I don't know about career highlight, and don't say that 517 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: game personal career highlight. 518 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: Man. I would say. 519 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: Something that you look back on and you see it 520 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: now and it still gives you goosebumps, like damn man 521 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: making big play. 522 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: I had a couple. 523 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: I have about three big plays AFC Championship game, especially 524 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: the fourth and one. 525 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: They had a fourth to one played with Brady. 526 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: And they kind of it was like it was a rollout, 527 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: but he would faked the handoff and he brought Edelmand 528 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: behind the line and I left my man and stayed 529 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: back for to leave. 530 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: That was probably probably one of. 531 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: My best plays just because it was it wasn't it 532 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: was straight just playing off playing off play. 533 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: This is an instance. Yeah. 534 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: So, and to be able to make that play in 535 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: IFC Championship, that would be probably one of my favorite players. 536 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: All right, I got another one. Then. 537 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: If that's one of your favorite plays, what was your 538 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: welcome to the NFL moment? We're an undrafted guy. Out 539 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: of the University of Kansas and you get to your 540 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: team and it's just like all right, rookie. Then you 541 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: were just like, yo, this is this is me. This 542 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: is the NFL. Holy Holy, this is this is the league. 543 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: What was moment like for you? 544 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 3: Man? 545 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: I got a couple you know, my first game, you know, 546 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: we played the Raiders and they had fatten at that time. 547 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: It was Monday night, you know, it was. 548 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: The first Broncos Raiders game, my first time experience at 549 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: a Denver you know, for getting that rival is a 550 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: big you know, like I'm looking at Dawkins champ out here. 551 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: You know, I'm just watching that this time. I'm just 552 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: straight gunner. You know, at this time. I didn't started 553 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: playing until like week four I started playing. 554 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: But man, I seen sorry, darc Man, Sorry, I seen 555 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: I see McFadden come over there and just like boom, 556 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: just gave dunk one of them shoulders on the sideline 557 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no, that to Brian Dawkins mcfatten. 558 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: And after that, I was like, Okay, this is the NFL. 559 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: You better be you better be ready to hit. Yeah, 560 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: And then I would say my next welcome to the 561 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: NFL game would be against Aaron Rodgers. 562 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: Right. 563 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: We went down to Green Bay. As soon as I 564 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: came in the game, we were getting killed. So they 565 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: were like, hey, just throw them in there. This is 566 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: what he can do, you know what I mean, just 567 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: throw them in there. 568 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 3: Uh. 569 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: First player I came in there, I had damn what 570 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: was their receivers? They had driver Jennings, Jennings that had Jennings. 571 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: I was on Jennings. 572 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: They threw him like a now route, like Aaron Rodgers 573 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: test me out, just throwing a little now route. 574 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: Now. I came in and just smacked him right out 575 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: right when he got it. 576 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: So that was kind of like my first time, you know, 577 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: really getting real, real game type reps and going against 578 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. 579 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: Man. So after that, man, that. 580 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: Was like, I'm not It's always funny to me, like 581 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: the plays that you remember because you can get so 582 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: many players, but it's like, oh, but I remember this 583 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: one time and all he did was through a now route. 584 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: Now I just tackled it. But just you gotta explain. 585 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: So the now route is the receiver just he doesn't 586 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: even run, He just stops staring. 587 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 3: And turns quarterba furs and throws it out to it. 588 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: It's really it's one on one. We think our guys better. Yes, 589 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? Yes? 590 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: I have an interesting couple thoughts I would like to know, 591 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: because I experienced has been a totally different way, and 592 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: that is the NFL lockout. So lockout for me was 593 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: I just won a Super Bowl in two thousand and nine, 594 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: I was gonna becoming a free agent. I was gonna 595 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: be a free agent because my contract was up, but 596 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: you had to be U The owners opted out, so 597 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: then you had to be six years to be able 598 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: to come a free agent unrestricted free agent, So I 599 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: was restricted, So I lost out on a little bit 600 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: of money. 601 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: For you. 602 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: On the other hand, you were supposed to get drafted. 603 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: The year that you got that the NFL had a lockout. Yeah, 604 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: you go undrafted. There's no communication between agent and ownership 605 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: or whoever, and you just sitting there. 606 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 3: So I want to. 607 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: Know what that felt like because I always think about 608 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: what was me in those times? But what was you 609 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: to be an undrafted guy at that time, sitting back 610 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: not knowing anything about your future, and then you get 611 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: a call and you're like, bro, you got to be 612 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: somewhere in like twenty four hours or a day and 613 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: then let's go man that whole process. 614 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: You know, I was just confused. 615 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: I was hot really that whole time, because I'm like, 616 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: I started forty some games a big twelve. 617 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: I'm shocked by that. 618 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: I've already played Des Brian, Jordy Nelson, these guys, you 619 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Jeremy Macklin, Yeah, you know all 620 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: these receivers. I'm already crabtree. I'm already fail these guys, 621 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: but I'm not getting invited into the combine and things 622 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: like that. So I was, you know, I was already 623 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: hot about that, and then not having any communication at all, 624 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, after the after the pro date, that was it. 625 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: We couldn't talk to no scouts, you couldn't talk to 626 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: no gms. None of that was going on. So after 627 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: the draft, you know, after the draft, they usually have 628 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: undrafted get picked up, right, Yeah, and uh that didn't 629 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: happen that year. You know, that year was no undrafteds 630 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: picked up. It was just a draft and you kept 631 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: it moving, right. 632 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 633 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: So once we got to I just I just kept 634 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: my mind saying, you know, people were telling me how 635 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: you might as well just give it up as well. 636 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: Start working on to your next you know, you'll get 637 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: to your next job or you know, going to school. 638 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: You know, the draft was over. You know, the draft 639 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: was over here. 640 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: They didn't really know about people didn't really know about 641 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: undrafted getting picked up things like that. 642 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: Did that weigh on you though? People telling you that constantly? 643 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had to That's why I wanted to 644 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: know this. I really wanted to know this. 645 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the time people, I mean, you just get 646 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: ready for your next act, you know, maybe one going 647 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: to coaching, things like that, And I'm thinking on the 648 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: back of my head, like maybe I should be thinking 649 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: about this stuff too, you know. And once July came up, 650 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: it was probably like the end of July, I think, man, 651 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: I just got to call out of nowhere, you know, 652 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: from I had the Cowboys, the Dolphins, and the Broncos. 653 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: So I had those three like and they called like 654 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: in ten minutes, like you know which one you want 655 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: to come to, you know. And then my agent thought 656 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: that Denver would be the best spot just because they 657 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: had new GM. You know, this is always first year, 658 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: so I was kind of like always first class, you know, meet, 659 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: so we wanted to start fresh. 660 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 3: You know. We knew they had they had Champed, they 661 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: had Dawkins. 662 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: But they really didn't or they had Goodman too, and 663 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: Andre Goodman too because he was he played for about 664 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: good He played for like eleven years too at Corner. 665 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: So they knew that they had more older guys and 666 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: they were they were looking to make a transfer, so 667 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: they thought it would be a great spot for me 668 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: to go there and play. And that's why I went 669 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: with Denver right out of nowhere called me next day 670 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: pull up. They had a we had a run test, y'all. 671 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: Remember y'all know from over Hill. Yeah, I know, we 672 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: all had that run test. Man, all the vets everybody 673 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: came straight off, you know they were that was in luckout. 674 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they do anything either. No, man, I never 675 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: seen all the vets out of shape. Man. 676 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: It's that air though. How was the air when you 677 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: when you got there? How was that altitude when you 678 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: got there? Did it effect? 679 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, oh man, it takes about it takes 680 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: two weeks you really get fully fully acclimated, right because 681 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: when you practice in the practice field, it's. 682 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 5: Gonna be higher when you go to the male high, 683 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 5: when you go to the when you go to the stadium. 684 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 5: It's gonna be thicker up there there. So even though 685 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 5: you're training in Denver, right, you're training in the valley, right, 686 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: but still higher when you get to the when you 687 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 5: get to the stadium, So you're. 688 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: Gonna feel it either way it goes. 689 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: I hate it playing Denver, no matter how I hated it. 690 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: It was the only time I ever came out of 691 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: the game as a dB is we went to Denver. 692 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: We had like three dB rotation because I just I 693 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: was just like, I can't typ of my helmet, yo, coach, 694 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: I need some air, Like, couldn't do it. 695 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: Hate it playing in Denver. 696 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: If I was if I was an offensive coordinator Denver, 697 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm no huddle every time I would totally get just 698 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: so winded, just walking not doing anything. 699 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: Like a fat person. 700 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, man, what is wrong with me? Well, 701 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: this is my next couple of questions. I'm gonna get up. 702 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let Peanut get us up out of here. 703 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: I want to know do you still have that silver 704 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: Avalanche truck on twenty six because I heard about how 705 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: you spent your first million twenty sixes. 706 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had to have in twenty sixty now. 707 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta get around Denver, Colorado somewhere. 708 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: So man, that and that that tire is so thin. 709 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: I had twenty sixty too, so I can't. 710 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: We took those out. We definitely had to take You 711 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: ain't getting through no so and no twenty sixes. We 712 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: had to take those off. Oh man, I had it 713 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: for I still got it. You still got my mom 714 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: over right now. 715 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you know that's kind of it's kind of 716 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: extra in case we need it. 717 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard that. I kind of used it as 718 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: a work truck. 719 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a work truck now, you know. And it's 720 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: good for that, you know. It's it's one of the 721 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: last avalanches. That's why I want to keep it, because 722 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: they don't they don't even sell them anymore, you know. 723 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: I think you gotta it's hard to find those, so 724 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: I think mine's was like one of the last ones. 725 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: So I'm like, hey, we're gonna keep into the to 726 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: the wheels fall off. Man. 727 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. We're gonna take a short break 728 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: and we'll be right back. 729 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: And this is a question we like to try and 730 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: delve into with all of our guests, and that is 731 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: that who is on your personal route Mount Rushmore of influence, 732 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: oh man? 733 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: And how many is on Mount Rushmore? For right? It's full? 734 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: All right? Not four? It's full. Okay, it's four. Oh man, 735 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: that's tough. I'm gonna just go with. 736 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: Let's go with like Mount Rushmore teammates, good teammates that 737 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: I had. You know, okay, I like that Champ Bailey, 738 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, being able to have him Hall of Fame guy. 739 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: But give me confidence, you know, like, hey, you can play, 740 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: you can coach, throw him out there with me. You 741 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean when you hear a guy like 742 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: that say that, you know that gives a player of confidence. 743 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: Questions because you brought him up. 744 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: Champ used to do this like sideways backpedal, kind of 745 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: open thing. Then I saw you start doing it. Did 746 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: you Did you learn that strictly from him? Because I 747 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 2: had never seen anybody cover or do Cover three like this, 748 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: and you guys were some of the first ones ever 749 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: doing it. 750 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: Man, Champ had every tool. 751 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: That's That's one thing that he taught me is that 752 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: you want to have every tool. We want to be 753 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: able to play sideways, play square, inch on the line, yes, 754 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: reach step on the line, be able to run and 755 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: be able to cover on the run and motion things 756 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: like that to him. Let me know that I had 757 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: to put a lot of tools to my game if 758 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: I was going to be successful like him. I'm not 759 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: six to one six two like chem Melly running four two, 760 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: So I got to be able to have these tools 761 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: tighten up. And that's one thing from watching him, Watching 762 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: those guys, they were perfectionists when it comes to technique fundamental. 763 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: So Champ Bailey, you got three more man. 764 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: Let me think of some other ones. Wesley Woodyard, Yeah, 765 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: y'all know. Wesley Woodard, great man, great vet guy that 766 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: definitely showed me the ropes, you know, showed me how 767 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: to come in and be a professional as an undrafted 768 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: what's it gonna take on special teams to be able 769 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: to kind of move myself to playing defense? So he 770 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: was one. Let me think about two more teammates. The 771 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: marriage Thomas dt Man RPD dt Man. 772 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: Good dude. Me and DT went at it every day. 773 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: Every day. 774 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't I. DT wasn't coming there. I'm giving you 775 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: a life day today. He knew I wasn't giving him 776 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: a life day, you know, But it was just that 777 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: constant competition every day and then just knowing that we 778 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: can go out here and battle, then we go go 779 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: eat lunch at Flemings or death Frisk and just cheer. 780 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 3: You know. 781 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: That's just my guy man, RPD DT. But he was 782 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: just he was quiet and just a quiet assassin, yea. 783 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: And he was always the same. So that was good. 784 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: That was a good big brother to have that kind 785 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: of keep you calm kind of not he never got 786 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: too like emotional, you know. He was never in his 787 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: feelings things like that, even though he had times that 788 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: he could have, you know, but DT man, he was 789 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: a perfect He was a great example of being a 790 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: big brother in the NFL. How to be a leader 791 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: not just vocal, not vocal, but just being a leader period. 792 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, who should I go with it on this one? 793 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: I would say, y'all probably don't know him. Well, y'all 794 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: do no him? 795 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: Derek Wolf? 796 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Wolf Wolf was such a he was an animal, right. 797 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: He brought that like kind of he gave. He gave 798 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: you that edge like I know you can go out 799 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: here and do whatever because I know you got this 800 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: big dual behind you. 801 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: He's gonna ready to fight for you, no doubt. Right. 802 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: He was like that big one of that. He was 803 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: the little brother, but the big brother. Yeah, you know, 804 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: and ab D we always went vacations together. 805 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: You know. 806 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: That was just one of my one of my partners 807 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: right there, and he was just he brought that. He 808 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: gave you that intensity on the field at all times. 809 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: Right if you come out here, you say, if you're 810 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: not on your stuff, you just you're going through the 811 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: motions a little bit out here. You not really got 812 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: that firing in this game. Right, Nah, we'll gonna let 813 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, we'll gonna make sure you get right, 814 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He might and he might 815 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: be doing that another way. He might say, hey, Rivers, 816 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat your kids. What you're gonna do it 817 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: is trying to wake up, you know. He might say 818 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: some crazy stuff crazy, you know, but man, just having him, Uh, 819 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: those are my Rushmore teammates, you know, just because they 820 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: added something to my game mentally or physically and uh, 821 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, gave me that little extra boost. 822 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: And those are my guys man right there. Definitely, Chris 823 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: Man appreciate that. Thanks for coming on the podcast. 824 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 4: Man. 825 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 2: We appreciate you showing some love and just giving us 826 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: these stories and enjoyed it. Learn a little bit more 827 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: about you and your family and the Tulsa Land and 828 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: all that. That's that's you know. 829 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 3: I like that. Got a lot of black history out there, man, 830 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: it is. It is. 831 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: Didn't even know about the the Tulsa Master until I 832 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: was older in life, so there it is. I had 833 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: heard about it, but not like how we all know 834 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: about it now. But yeah, that's that's awesome. So yeah, 835 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: thank y'all for tuning in. I'm Peanut, that's my guy room. 836 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: Our special guest Chris Harris. 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