WEBVTT - OMG: Is THIS the Point of No Return?

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<v Speaker 1>It's nine o one.

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<v Speaker 2>With Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. Oh this week, you guys, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back and for sad reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>The sad and mad. I'm all the fields good, that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>How do we feel about who'sy lady with the short

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<v Speaker 4>haircut and the short things?

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't think of her name, Jamie Blake?

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<v Speaker 5>What's her name?

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<v Speaker 3>Jamie Blake?

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<v Speaker 5>Who's Jamie Blake her real name?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you said, how do we feel about the

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<v Speaker 3>girl with them?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Tory always would have that on her mind because it's Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more fixated on Emma. Emma, Oh, I thought you.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that Tory went there to the girl that's kissing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't mind that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well one has one has short hair and a pixie

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<v Speaker 2>and what as a bob so easy to.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to know right out the gate from

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<v Speaker 4>both of you.

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<v Speaker 5>Did Emma do the right thing? Or she just like

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<v Speaker 5>a villain? What is she?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I mean, she's just a girl that got

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<v Speaker 2>caught in the doorway and really gotta just tell the

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<v Speaker 2>truth when that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is a tough one because yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see her as a villain. Sorry, that's gonna be unpopular,

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<v Speaker 3>but you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>See her as a villain. She came into town, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>went it just went straight for Brandon, like not even

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<v Speaker 2>a second's delay. She saw him, she conquered him.

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<v Speaker 5>Am I crazy to call her a vixen? A villain?

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<v Speaker 5>But also like girl power?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like she's sort of that too, yes, because she's

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<v Speaker 1>not well, No, would you call that guest trick rounded No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd call that a girl's girl.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I mean here's the thing, Oh see, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a tough one because she doesn't owe Kelly anything. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>she came in and she found a guy and she

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<v Speaker 3>went for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she knew he had a boy, he had a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>She knew that.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's that factor, right, that's not very girl. She

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<v Speaker 5>knew the girlfriend, right that.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, that is what makes her villainy.

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<v Speaker 2>If she didn't know at all, then and then we'd

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<v Speaker 2>have another discussion. But like she knew.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 3>There's another word besides villain, there's God.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it that you want to defend her though,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really interested this, Like, why are you trying to defend.

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<v Speaker 3>Her because I like her in real life.

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<v Speaker 5>Too on levels of wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Though I still stand by that Brandon was worse.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't compare them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like apples and oranges, you know, where they kind

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<v Speaker 4>of did it dirty is that they made it's they

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<v Speaker 4>make her so conniving that that's what makes her worse.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like if she just went to the office, she's

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<v Speaker 4>sort of this sexy girl who writes the column, and

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<v Speaker 4>he came on to her, or even mutually, and then

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<v Speaker 4>he went for it. But it's all the conniving, the

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<v Speaker 4>dropping the watch and the boiling water.

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<v Speaker 2>And the short skirts up on the desk.

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<v Speaker 4>Recording on the old cassette tape on you know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>and then showing him the tape and then inviting her

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<v Speaker 4>in to play the tape.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like they made her.

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<v Speaker 4>They made her villainy when it might have been more

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to make her not so villainy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I understand this, and and granted I've gone on

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<v Speaker 3>this roller coaster ride. I've gone ups and ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I like her, I don't like her, I hate her.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her.

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<v Speaker 5>So well played for the TV part, When did.

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<v Speaker 2>You love her?

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<v Speaker 3>Good? Question the moment I saw that haircut, you are hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's okay, here's the thing. I think Angel Boris now

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<v Speaker 3>Angel Boris read is really good because I'm not debating

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<v Speaker 3>that she's a villain.

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<v Speaker 2>I know so correct.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a villain, a scripted villain that actually has.

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<v Speaker 5>Likability, which is right. You are right.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait wait wait can you walk me through the

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<v Speaker 2>walk me through the likability please? As a character, not.

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<v Speaker 3>A I understand, but Angel playing that part, she could

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<v Speaker 3>have played it very one note. And there's something in

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<v Speaker 3>the way she plays it and her soul that comes

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<v Speaker 3>through that you want to hate her, but you just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a little Heather lockleyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Like no, no, no, she was the villain in melrose Place,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was something like like a daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'm sorry, what break it down for me? What

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<v Speaker 2>was likable about this character? The way? Why do you,

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<v Speaker 2>as a female like the way she played the character.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the way she played it, it's the character.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some warmth that comes through, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with you, Tori. There's like she's ninety percent

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<v Speaker 4>ten percent, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it's because she's so sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>When she's being like that time percent, she's still being conniving.

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<v Speaker 5>She's yeah, she's com meditated. Correct, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>She's written, You're right, unlike well, total villain and yet

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<v Speaker 3>the way she portrays her.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, I think we're talking about two different things. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>here's what I'm gonna say. There's nothing likable about her,

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<v Speaker 4>but there's something very intriguing about her, so that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm experiencing is like I'm kind of bummed she's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be gone soon, you know what I'm saying, Like

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<v Speaker 4>she's awful.

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<v Speaker 2>She's yeah, she's making it a little more, mixing it

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<v Speaker 2>up more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's something interesting about her for this whole show.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, I don't disagree, but I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say that she's there's something redeemable about her

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<v Speaker 2>as a character.

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<v Speaker 4>No, she's terrible because she's also not honest, Like the

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<v Speaker 4>dropping the watch and the recording and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole thing is dishonest. But it's like, but she did

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<v Speaker 2>a great job as an actress, There's no question about it.

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<v Speaker 4>If you were her, would you have done what she did?

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<v Speaker 5>And told Kelly?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was Gnarley, Like I said, she he's

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<v Speaker 2>being straight up asked, I don't think this character is

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<v Speaker 2>a liar because she didn't lie to anybody. She just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't tell Kelly because she thought Brandon should be the

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<v Speaker 2>one to tell Kelly.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also bananas that Kelly went over there like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but why yeah, why can we go over there?

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<v Speaker 4>You went over there because you thought it was Steve

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<v Speaker 4>and that he was cheating on Hillary Swank, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was like also bananas, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Where she lived.

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yellow Pages.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, was weird if I was, you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>person and this girl I'm sort of loosely friends with

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<v Speaker 4>has an entanglement with a random dude that I'm close with.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go knock on her door. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a little confrontational for weird reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to get there somehow, though.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, I love that they just keep holding

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<v Speaker 2>up the cassette tape. I don't know. I'm glad it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad the liaring, the liaring is over.

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<v Speaker 4>Brandon's liar liarings Darley and letting Steve. I mean, come on, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>Brandon they they are writing him like dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Poop, They're writing him like val, what's happening? I have

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<v Speaker 2>fury here?

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<v Speaker 5>Tell us.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they in their minds at the time, they

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<v Speaker 3>might have been like, we're losing the show. In their minds,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're all the show, but like Brandon Walsh

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<v Speaker 3>Minnesota Twins, we've lost one, we're about to lose the

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<v Speaker 3>other how and they were like, Okay, people are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be miserable, so let's just tak him. Let's take

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<v Speaker 3>this character and make him be like them.

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<v Speaker 5>Who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon Walsh interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I definitely see what you're saying, but that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a really down dirty that's terrible blasphemy.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I'm I'm in shock. I know he was in

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<v Speaker 3>the mind space of you know, he's moving on, and.

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<v Speaker 4>But as a producer, did he have the ability to go,

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<v Speaker 4>don't write me so yes, sleepy, I for sure think

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<v Speaker 4>so at this So.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess maybe he was kind of into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you think maybe he was, Like sure, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>But it keeps flashing back in my mind to that

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<v Speaker 4>love scene with that Emma woman, Like I keep flashing back.

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<v Speaker 5>To that that was so it was just a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>It was very a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Why because it was so not exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I thought it was because it was like too

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<v Speaker 2>like sex, like poorn almost.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like it was like the most aggressive sex

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<v Speaker 4>scene we've had on nine O two one zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, by.

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<v Speaker 5>Far it was. It was gnarly, where are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Going with this? Amy interesting because I didn't like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we liked that they adulted him up or made

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<v Speaker 4>him maybe he doesn't want to always be good Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well surely, I'm sure that's there, But yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>taking it to an extreme.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, here's the thing I gotta say, You guys like

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<v Speaker 3>Jamie Walters was not that's not him. He played a character.

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<v Speaker 3>He pushed Donna down the stairs. Well mean that, But

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<v Speaker 3>here's the thing. Jason Priestley plays Brandon Walsh. He cheats

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<v Speaker 3>on Kelly Taylor in the worst way. He's beloved.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, how is this all fair to this day?

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<v Speaker 4>I know, because we only think guys, I'm so sorry

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<v Speaker 4>because not that they didn't watch it, but they base

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<v Speaker 4>everything in my opinion on the first five seasons. How

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<v Speaker 4>we feel about everybody is totally based on the early

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<v Speaker 4>your season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm watching this as a viewer as a

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<v Speaker 2>young girl who thinks Brandon Walsh is the best guy

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<v Speaker 2>in the world and dreams of having a boyfriend like him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so devoted, so faithful, so honest, so smart, and

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<v Speaker 2>he loves his girlfriend so much. And then to see

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<v Speaker 2>as a viewer him cheat on her in this way

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<v Speaker 2>and such graphic visual details and then lie about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the lying and then finally get caught as a viewer.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I ever gonna like him? Make?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>May I remind you how this season ends? So? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you sure are?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know what what do you mean? What toy? Obviously?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Do they get back together? Are you saying I

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<v Speaker 2>get back together?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just telling you that now.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not spoiling it because it's three years afo.

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<v Speaker 2>You just spoiled it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like we all come around on these people too,

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<v Speaker 4>we do we soften?

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<v Speaker 2>Why why why I had to because it was in

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<v Speaker 2>script I mean, Kelly had to because that was my job, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I never think of this stuff when I think of

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<v Speaker 4>Brandon holistically.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but that's that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not redeemable on his part, Like it's just unless

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<v Speaker 3>we have some backstory of why he felt he needed

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<v Speaker 3>to Why, Like, I don't want to think that just

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<v Speaker 3>someone comes in, she's sexy and he's just like Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish they could go into the backstory of like

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<v Speaker 3>at some point, like what were his feelings? Why did

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<v Speaker 3>he feel that what he had wasn't good enough on

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<v Speaker 3>his part that he needed to do something else? What

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<v Speaker 3>was he not feeling good about himself? We don't know?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is he just a twenty two year old dude?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the other thing. You all are acting like you're

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<v Speaker 4>all thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks like thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like everybody on the show is thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>We're all twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>They got so old so fast, and like it did

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<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to remember.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, But before that, he's always actually no am

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<v Speaker 3>we Valentine?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>How is he a can you call a man America's sweetheart?

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<v Speaker 3>What is the male version of that?

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<v Speaker 5>Hearth thrub heart? Thrubs can be.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of broody and like not so bad boys, America's sweetheart?

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<v Speaker 2>He's yeah, like the man.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, first five seasons, Amy, I get it, But

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<v Speaker 3>you guys, let's tell them what we're watching here. Season eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sorry, we got ahead of ourselves, you guys, Okay, segments,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so flustered now, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Do we want to keep talking about this?

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<v Speaker 5>Because we could?

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<v Speaker 4>But also I'm obsessed with the mall, clown and the

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<v Speaker 4>whole There's so much talk.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much to talk about in this episode. Season eight,

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<v Speaker 2>episode sixteen, Illegal Tender Air January fourteenth, nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Synopsis. Emma wants revenge and she's coming with receipts. Kelly

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<v Speaker 3>faces the truth. Brandon's guilty of deceit. It's all David's fault.

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<v Speaker 3>When Jamie Blake gets fired, he runs to the peapad

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<v Speaker 3>and gets the singer hired. Noah finds out about Valerie's

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<v Speaker 3>secret client, and now he and val have the right

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<v Speaker 3>to remain silent.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have four storylines. We've got the Emma stuff

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<v Speaker 4>with Brandon. Wait, wait, I have to tell you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It was directed by Anson Williams, one of her favorite directors.

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<v Speaker 3>I did notice that, and written by Ken Stringer, who

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<v Speaker 3>started initially as our first ad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have four storylines. We've got the kids lost

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<v Speaker 4>in the mall. We've got this Emma fatal attraction thing.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got the singer, and we've got the gambling. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot and it's a lot which one.

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<v Speaker 3>If you could would you have lost?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe the singer thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, I don't know that I would have lost

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<v Speaker 2>the kid getting lost.

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<v Speaker 3>I just was.

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<v Speaker 4>Obsessed with what mall is that? Oh my god, we

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<v Speaker 4>know it's the outdoor mall. Is it on Ventura? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I thought. Okay, so let's should we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the missing and the sort of is that a

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<v Speaker 4>red herring when we think was he a kidnapper or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course he wasn't. He did the right thing. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how you describe a red herring. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what that word means.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't never think he was a kidnapper. I just

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<v Speaker 2>think the kid like got lost and some nice man

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<v Speaker 2>found him.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think we're supposed to think, oh no, with

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<v Speaker 4>the candy, He's like, camere, little boy, I have candy,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you're supposed to be like, oh no, now

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<v Speaker 4>he's kidnapped.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that. I mean, I guess I'm watching something

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<v Speaker 2>from the nineties. So I didn't think that. But if

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<v Speaker 2>I were watching that now, I probably would Immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, they're trying to make us think this

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<v Speaker 4>is a kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember filming there that day and I was super

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<v Speaker 3>excited because in between shots there were stores there and

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<v Speaker 3>you go to chic goes. They were like boutique ones. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>it was in the nineties, like it was like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>boutiques like that was yeah, yeah, there weren't like big

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<v Speaker 3>chains and like stuff. All I am focused on now

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<v Speaker 3>is the red balloon, and I'm like, oh, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>So it totally and the creepy He's gonna go and

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<v Speaker 4>get killed by a clown.

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<v Speaker 5>The creepy clowns is like a horror movie. I liked it.

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<v Speaker 5>Kids adorable? Have we tried to find him?

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<v Speaker 6>It was in chapter nineties where because chapter Miles Jeffrey,

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<v Speaker 6>that guy is adorable and the whole like, oh, Steve's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, so Steve tells the kid to lie

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<v Speaker 4>and say he had like tails. I was like, that's bad,

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<v Speaker 4>But then I actually didn't think it was so like

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<v Speaker 4>I thought Hilary Swank like overreacted to Steve, like.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, you have to hold his hand all

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<v Speaker 5>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't neither.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, as a mom uh no, well right, but

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<v Speaker 2>then she.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct But the whole point is she yelled at Steve

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<v Speaker 4>but then did the same thing. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>a tropy trophy storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like she said, you have to hold his

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<v Speaker 2>hand when there's traffic, and he's crossing some traffic, but

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<v Speaker 2>she was standing right next to him and they were

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can imagine she wouldn't be holding his

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<v Speaker 2>hand the whole time, like at the clown thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I would be watching and making sure my kid doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>wander off chasing a balloon.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's true, that's a mall at a mall.

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<v Speaker 4>But these days my brother just puts trackers on my

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<v Speaker 4>nieces so that like it just like Apple trackers on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Sit in really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know you could actually like carve it into

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<v Speaker 3>their tennis shoes in the insoul and you.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's genius.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked my niece if I could do that when

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<v Speaker 4>she went to Mexico for spring break, but she said no.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Okay, you don't ask you just do it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was a long time to find the kid

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<v Speaker 4>out a very small mall.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's so that's I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that storyline. I wasn't as excited about also because

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of know that this is ending soon, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm I.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel like they have one more episode with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, would you guys think of the singer of Jamie Blake.

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<v Speaker 2>She's she was the act, she was the character, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's also a real singer. Oh she was, yes, it

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<v Speaker 2>says uh. Signed by A and M Records in nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 5>Silled A and M Records.

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<v Speaker 3>She had cool, she had a cool look, cool voice.

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<v Speaker 5>I just feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>We've done this storyline.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just like, here's a gazillion time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Okay, David wants to be a musician. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>he's find a singer. Oh, Valerie's mad.

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<v Speaker 2>I just it's very trophy. She's adorable and a really

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<v Speaker 2>good performer.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the new version of Watch What Happens Live,

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<v Speaker 3>and the word is trophy. Yeah, it's literally if you

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<v Speaker 3>just the drinking game, it's just.

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<v Speaker 4>The same old storyline. Although I'm fine with it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the same old crap with Valerie too. Oh oh, Valerie

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<v Speaker 4>criminal again. Yeah, you're a criminal again. Oh cool, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>So Yeah, we talked about last week. We were not

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<v Speaker 3>happy about the bookie coming back. We're like, oh good,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't want to watch this.

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<v Speaker 2>So I look like Garth today? Hold on, we wait

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to lie and say amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, your hair it actually looks so phenomenal. You look,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks eight eyed.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, she's talking about does she look like Wayne's world

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<v Speaker 4>looked like Dana Carvey, And yes, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do look like Garth? Right, that was the name guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, you guys. My last name's Garth.

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<v Speaker 4>All I think about is when they went to that

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<v Speaker 4>concert and they're holding up their backstage passes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, how do you what was? They went like this, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, Okay, let's stop doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, by the way, she looked beautiful, hair looked great

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<v Speaker 3>until she proofed it up and then she literally did

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<v Speaker 3>transform into him.

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<v Speaker 5>That was that was crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was actually I have a really I can

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<v Speaker 2>do Nick Nolty too, if you want to see that. No,

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<v Speaker 2>not to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do, actually though, I think also it happens that you're

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<v Speaker 4>wearing that shirt. Which is kind of a Wayne's Worldy

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<v Speaker 4>type shirt. I think it's it's all work anyway, we digress.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, Lindsay Price like, can we talk about.

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<v Speaker 5>Her really quick?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, you're right, Tori, Like, she really just starts

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<v Speaker 4>out as a very minor character.

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<v Speaker 2>And just so comfortable in her in her skin, like

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<v Speaker 2>she's like she's supposed to be there.

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<v Speaker 5>It feels like, yeah, she's just there.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and she looks but I'm telling you she

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<v Speaker 3>was just She's brought in to work in the office

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<v Speaker 3>because they they need a workplace. This is now becoming

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<v Speaker 3>a workplace drum.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did look up where is the office? I

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<v Speaker 4>was inspired to be like where is the Beverly Beat?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like Hollywood Boulevard. I did find it really fast.

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<v Speaker 4>I should have memorized where.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's like over by where Netflix is?

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<v Speaker 4>Now where is the Beverly Beat? Like it was six

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<v Speaker 4>six oh five Hollywood Boulevard?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, right there.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to hit that Spanish revival style building.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're like, uh, is it Gricos? Is that it?

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<v Speaker 3>Pizza is at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 4>It serves as the backdrop for the character's editorial escapades

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<v Speaker 4>it's right near Hollywood and Highland.

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<v Speaker 3>So I believe I'm not sure that those office spaces

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<v Speaker 3>that they're showing from the outside world of wonder Ru

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<v Speaker 3>Paul drag Race, that's where those are their offices in

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<v Speaker 3>real in real life. Now it's like the last twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, It's Jenny Garth from the I Choose Me podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, there is one thing this thing says wrong. It

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<v Speaker 4>says the building represents the office where Brandon and Steve

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 4>ran their student newspaper. It's student newspaper. AI, Come on this, AI,

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<v Speaker 4>get your crap together. AI, But fans like to go

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<v Speaker 4>buy it, says, So what do we think of Valerie?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so bad for this her as an actress

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<v Speaker 2>like Tiffany, to be having to do the same storyline

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<v Speaker 2>over and over it.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel bad for Noah, who's wrongfully been arrested.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Amy loves Noah. Now she loves him.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I didn't like in the scene in the

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<v Speaker 2>office when he took the guy's briefcase and slammed it down.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't understand why he was still you'll leave the

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<v Speaker 4>money here, Like why, yeah, why didn't he say get

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<v Speaker 4>out of it, get take your stinking money and get

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<v Speaker 4>out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess because that was his customer's money.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe okay, oh yeah, maybe he's going to return all

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<v Speaker 4>the money.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right. How about Donna.

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<v Speaker 2>Just sleeping on the boat way to go? Donna?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks? I like my own pigtails, my red pigtails.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait for you. Your characters like gone from like I'll

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 2>be a virgin until I'm married, until now being like,

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>let's go go a few rounds on the boat, let's

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>go all the way if the boat is a rock,

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 2>and don't come in on.

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm just floating with it. I mean, the thing is,

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but.

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 5>What do you.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to choose my words carefully. Okay, once you

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 3>know you have done the deed and made that choice,

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 3>perhaps again twenty two year old, you know, she's like, well,

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I didn't wait for marriage.

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 5>Wait.

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was going to be my forever with

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 3>David and it didn't work out, And so now she

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 3>could have wait a little longer. I understand.

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 5>No, I don't.

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she needs a way a little longer.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I just think it's cute because the juxaposition of the

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 2>character and how cockly you switch. I see what you're

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 2>saying about, like once you give the milk away, then

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 2>then the farmer leaves, and then the milk the cow

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:19.360
<v Speaker 2>still needs to be milked.

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I remember my mom telling me that.

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 2>About it.

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 3>Granted, like I was a virgin, but she I just

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 3>remember her being like, why give the milk away?

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Wait?

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 6>What?

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 4>Why buy the cow when you give the milk away

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 4>for free.

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>When you can get the milk for free?

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Right, And it's a seventeen year old girl. I heard

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 3>them like, oh mom, it's kind of a weird thing.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 2>Little it's so like in the timeframe of the Beverly Hillbillies,

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like those very dated side.

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, true, you know what I mean, Like, the cow

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 5>should be able to do what the cow wants.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>And also it shouldn't be called a cow, right, it's

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 2>called a cow.

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I really kiss this boy. But bottom line, the cow

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 3>can do what the cow wants.

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>How do I feel about this episode? What do you

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 2>what do you think?

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you got to feel better than previous ones.

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at least the ending was exciting.

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Everything we have to talk about.

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 4>I just.

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 3>First of all, you guys, I thought Steve Sanders. I

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 3>really enjoyed him this episode because I was like, oh wow,

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 3>like he's done some bad stuff and always like I

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 3>don't know, it was a stand up best friend.

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Now that's a guys guy. Yeah, there's a couple things

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 4>with Steve. So Steve was willing to take the hit

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 4>for Brandon, and they do bring up all Steve's past,

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, indiscretions, plagiarism, to mess ups. Right, But I

0:27:56.800 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 4>also was like, yuck, yucky. You're friends with Kelly too,

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 4>this is yucky. Yeah, oh what came first? The chicken

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 4>or the egg? You know what came first?

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Killy?

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, right, Wow, it's really yeah, threw the

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 3>cow the chicken?

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Care?

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 4>And how do we feel about Steve and Hillary's wink?

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>I think I feel any different than we've ever felt.

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>We're just kind of it's kind of like, oh, it's

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 2>nice to see Steve growing up a little Yeah.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, same old crap too with the like don't

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 4>tell her you had the double cheeseburger and then like

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 4>cross the ur or just.

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Telling Brandon he said, never tell the truth until you

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>try lying first.

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, that's what he said to him.

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 3>That's right, he did do that. I guess I'm thinking

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 3>about the part that I was like, you know what,

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>that's that's a friend that would go Yeah, he could

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 3>go down in every single way here and cost his

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 3>relation everything and he did that for Brandon because he

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 3>loves it. So I that's the part I like about him.

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 2>But do you think he would have gone like I

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>would have done the whole like gun until let Carlely

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>find out and broken up with Carly with this lie?

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you think he was?

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if he really thought that out. And maybe

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>that's telling right there that Carly's not ding ding ding

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 3>ding ding ding ding okay, because he must have. No,

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't think.

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't even think he thought it through.

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I think he would have just told her that I

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't actually do it right, So true, I want to

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>give this episode. I don't know. I think it's like,

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>there's so much.

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 5>Could we just talk about your scene?

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to be done with that.

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 4>The storyline between you all is more like eight point five,

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 4>but the rest is like a seven.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's same, oh same, oh yeah, just.

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 4>The same old. David's got an artist? Can she play

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 4>the pa pad Valerie? Oh?

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to, Okay, I'll do it for you.

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 4>It's just like, oh my god, I've seen this so

0:29:58.160 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 4>many times.

0:29:59.040 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious.

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 5>Are they couple sort of? A? Yeah, they sort of

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 5>are like they are.

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 3>And here's the thing, I'm taking.

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Myself out of it. You can't you can't, I can't

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>let me.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I actually, as a viewer, don't they They had chemistry

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 3>when they were together before, but now together, I'm like,

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 3>this is a non m It's just the way it's

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 3>written though. At the two of them, you just like

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 3>don't want them to be together and you don't get the.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Hair right because we kind of like David just because

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 2>of his origin on the show, So he's like one

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.719
<v Speaker 2>of our core people. Yeah, he can mess up, just

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 2>like Okay, so he messed up and we still love him.

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>So now I guess Brandon's supposed to be able to

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 2>mess up and we will still love him. Have any

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>of the girls ever helped me think this? Or have

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>any of the girls ever like cheated on somebody and

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>then been still liked for it.

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Or had a fatal flaw but everyone ignoredon went poor Valeries.

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Valerie, that's her.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but in theory, okay, so we're gonna go with

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 3>the core cast, right, not that she's not Okay, he's

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 3>there to do bad thing.

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Gabrielle cheats on Jesse.

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 3>With that point, he's not there anymore, so you know,

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm just kidding.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, So my point So Brenda, wait, Brenda, Donna.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 3>David still there. So Kelly and Donna Brenda did.

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Never do anything like that? Right? Am I? Right? Am

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I wrong? I have no idea she did she cheated

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>in Paris?

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 5>Correct?

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, right on on Dylan? Was it on Dylan?

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>She cheated on?

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 3>It was not on Brandon.

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Or Steve, so it must have been telling. Okay, great, yep,

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>But we did we see that? Was that? Oh yeah,

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>we saw that whole thing happened. I feel like we

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>forgive a lot of things on this show. But also

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>she was a lot younger.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally, but wait, oh I like this, this is fun.

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>So poor were going back to the females that are

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 3>still here. Did Donna ever Joe, Kelly and Donna have

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 3>they ever done anything that they It should be like

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 3>not redeemed?

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 4>Are you dating two people the fireman and someone else

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 4>at the same time and trying to remember?

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but she wasn't They knew about it? I think right?

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 3>They did? They were, They were upfront about it.

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, God, you should have stayed with Cameron Bancroft.

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>He really messed that up.

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 5>I loved him.

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Jill loves Donna the parent.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>The other things, though, were more like crimes against themselves.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, like I love that, like things that they

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 2>did that were not good for themselves, but they never

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>did something that was purposely not good for their partners.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 4>I just think about, like what could they have done

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 4>on the show to be less Trophy?

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>But like I don't know, Yeah, how would you make

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 2>it less? I don't know, ahead give it a try.

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 5>I've been thinking that in my mind, like four times.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Four times Trophy has been said, yeah, just calling it out.

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 5>Everybody drink when.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Or Jumpy the sharky jump be the shark. It's not

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 4>even Jumpy the sharky. It's just Trophy number five.

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>It's not to you guys. Oh jee, any way to

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>go little vodka in that mudy we'll hair the dog

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 2>or the cow or the chicken.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>It's not bad, nothing's bad. It's just not great. So

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>what do you give it?

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 5>Seven and a half?

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I gotta say though that end scene, I was like,

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to watch next week. I'm sorry, like,

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, with Kelly and Brandon, I was like this.

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see them fighting.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Jen, this happens to you because it did

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 3>happen to me. But yeah, it still was like, in

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 3>order to play those emotions of somebody being cheated on,

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 3>you have to let it seek through a layer of

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>your human well.

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 4>And that tape is sort of like it's like a

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 4>tricky because he kind of says I had feelings for

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 4>you or whatever he says. But I felt like he

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 4>was saying that at the time to just kind of

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 4>get rid of her. So I don't think he actually,

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying. That tape must have been

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 4>so painful to listen to.

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Can you what would be the today version of that recording?

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't be voice memo because it was recording a conversation.

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>What would it be hidden camera? Just somebody recording on

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>an voice.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Like can you do that on your phone? Asking for

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 3>a friend?

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? People do that crap all the time.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I think it's illegal, But like you can record a

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 4>call illegally, illegally, illegally, okay.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 3>A snapchat photo.

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 2>So if you were to record a call like that,

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>like Emma Ditch, would she what do you mean illegally?

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 2>What's that?

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 4>You're not allowed but in California to record someone without

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 4>telling them. I'm not a lawyer, but I think I'm right.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to just record someone

0:34:58.800 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 4>without letting them know.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 3>You're like, I'm how on Ryan's roses they always have

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 3>to say, Ryan has to say just to let you

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>know right right on the radio. Yeah.

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 4>Or you can get permission after too, if you like,

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you were doing that, and then you'd say, hey,

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 4>can we air this and they can say yes, okay.

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 3>But in real life, so even back then, is she

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 3>allowed to record it and then play it for somebody?

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Could she be arrested?

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 4>No, Yeah, it's like you're not allowed to record people

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 4>without their knowledge.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a lawyer, so I'm making this up basically,

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 4>but I'm pretty sure there's like you're not allowed to just.

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Record people, but you play one on a podcast, You're fine.

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 4>It's like, you know how when you call you know,

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Comcast Cable, it says this line may be recorded.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>They have to say insurance. Yeah, that's more to like

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 2>make sure that their employees are not being like, you know,

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>you don't like you. I don't care what carrier you listen, It's.

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 5>Not the fault you be.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 3>I gotta say though, Wait, Kelly is coming back to

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<v Speaker 3>Donna and the beach apartment. Is this happening? She says,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stay with Donna, But yeah, she moved

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<v Speaker 3>back in permanently. Make me so happy?

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<v Speaker 2>She mess because where else is she gonna go? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>she should have never moved into Brandon's. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a bad call.

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<v Speaker 4>I also was just obsessed with the decor of the wallshouse.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so bad.

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<v Speaker 4>All the shop keys on the shelf, the wall art

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<v Speaker 4>is just horrendous.

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<v Speaker 2>The blanket over the couch, it's just so bad. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just the color theme in general. It makes you want

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<v Speaker 2>to just like lay down in a ditch.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, oh, this house is decorated horrifically.

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<v Speaker 3>I had good bones though, that's good house. Where's Jamie Blake? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think she had a She did some vocals recently.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that. Oh great for a bit. Wait four,

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<v Speaker 2>she's still singing. She's still sanging. That's good stuff, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Great episode. I feel like, I don't know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really excited to watch Kelly and Brandon deal with this.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it gets old.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just a trauma tricker.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to like scare anyone gets a little

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<v Speaker 4>dull for a minute. Here, it's a little dull.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it does gets dull. We just unduled it now

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of dullgether?

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<v Speaker 4>And then yeah, next week is season eight, episode seventeen,

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<v Speaker 4>the Elephant's father.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just gets random. Uh woa, who's the elephant?

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<v Speaker 3>Give us a little hint so people are excited to

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<v Speaker 3>listen to this, ak us.

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<v Speaker 4>What I remember is it sort of like random storyline,

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<v Speaker 4>random storyline, random storyline, random story.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the elephant? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>What's the reference?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember it yet. Oh man, is like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Elephant in the room. Probably not that I don't All

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<v Speaker 3>cat's out of the bag now.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot, in my wildest dreams imagine what it could

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<v Speaker 2>be about. Well, guess what we're gonna pay that the

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<v Speaker 2>title one short week? Okay, and then actually to watch

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see, if nothing else, just to explain

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<v Speaker 2>the title exactly there, Bye bye,