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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, Wong, what is up? Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's Me and your Man, NAMG.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, still masking and socially distancing win and where necessary,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by Michael F. Florio and producer Steven

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Speaker 1: and First off Florio, Uh, congratulations on the Bills. I

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Speaker 1: know they made you sweat it out. I loved seeing

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Speaker 1: your whole outfit, the whole Superman building outfit with the

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Speaker 1: cape and everything. But you gotta still be flying high

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Speaker 1: after what happened this weekend. I I was It's funny.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people thought that was a Bill's cape.

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Speaker 1: It was just like a Bill's blankets that I had,

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Speaker 1: Like I was holding out, But it's cooler to say

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Speaker 1: it's a cape. So I should have just stuck with that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was fun, Marcus. So I the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years is the first taste I've had of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. This was their first wins. I really watched

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Speaker 1: foot Fall. I think I was four years old the

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Speaker 1: last time they won. I have no memory of that.

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Speaker 1: So thank you. I'm I'm pumped and I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to watching them again this weekend. It should be interesting,

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Speaker 1: I mean, a really interesting matchup against Baltimore. So I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll we'll definitely get into that probably when we

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Speaker 1: get to Thursday show and we start kind of picking

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Speaker 1: our our DFS lineups for that. Um. But the the

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Speaker 1: other big thing from the weekend, and I know you

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Speaker 1: watched it, I know Steve watched it too. I want

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Speaker 1: to get his thoughts on this. The the game between

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Speaker 1: the Bears and Saints. Not so much for the game itself,

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Speaker 1: because the game itself was not particularly entertaining. The Saints

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Speaker 1: ended up winning pretty easily, But what was interesting was

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Speaker 1: that it was on Nickelodeon and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: I know all three of us watched the game on Nickelodeon,

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Speaker 1: and Steve, I will start with you, I mean, just

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Speaker 1: your your general thoughts on what that broadcast was, Like,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a glorious broadcast. So I'm here

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Speaker 1: with my girlfriend and this full disclosure, she is not

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Speaker 1: point it wasn't sweet victory that song. I look, wow,

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Speaker 1: was it just that like it was it was so different,

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Speaker 1: Nickelodeon wasn't ready for that one. They were not ready

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Speaker 1: through twelve, the next four teams on our list. Let's

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Speaker 1: without Dak than with So I would be worried if

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Speaker 1: all three of these wide receivers are there next year,

432
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,199
Speaker 1: I would be a little bit worried about Gallup. And

433
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: then I mean you were talking about Tony Poller, Marcus Ezekiel.

434
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 1: Elliott was the biggest bust on this team, I think,

435
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 1: and maybe one of the biggest bus this season non

436
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 1: injury bus, because he was going as a top four

437
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: pick consensus, like in every single draft, and he did

438
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 1: not return anywhere close to that value. And what I know,

439
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: it's easy to say he lost Dak, they lost offensive

440
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: line pieces. He'll be back to his normal self next year,

441
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: but he was already starting to decline coming into Like

442
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: his rushing yards per game has decreased in every single

443
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 1: season and since he's entered the NFL. It started at

444
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 1: one oh eight his rookie year and this year was

445
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: down to sixty five, so that is a huge decrease.

446
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 1: And then he had a career low in yards before contact,

447
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: so maybe you could blame that on the offensive line,

448
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: but he also had a career low in in yards

449
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: before contact the first five weeks of the season when

450
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: they were healthy. So to me, it's like, Zeke is

451
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a really hard player for me to kind

452
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: of figure out how I feel about him. For one,

453
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: but I as of right now, you know, it's early January,

454
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: but as of today, I'm thinking more of a second

455
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: round pick than first round if he's gonna be on

456
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 1: my teams. Which was sort of my question too, because

457
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about that. I was gonna ask whether or

458
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: not you think he's still a top five running back,

459
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 1: and obviously the answer is no, Um, I do think he.

460
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna still stay in the first round

461
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: in a lot of drafts, um, but you're gonna be

462
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: talking about him sort of in that back part of

463
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: the first round, right, So, I mean we've kind of

464
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: talked about some of the running backs at the top

465
00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: where it's going to be in in whatever order, Christian McCaffrey, say,

466
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry. I mean that's four

467
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: right there, Alvin Kamara probably gonna stay in that top five,

468
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: and then once you get to like six, then you're

469
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: gonna start talking about the Davante Adams, Uh, you know,

470
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: the Travis Travis Kelsey is going to probably slot in there,

471
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: probably the top seven or eight, um. And I think

472
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: maybe you start talking about Zeke at that point, maybe

473
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: eight nine a little bit later. I think that as

474
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: we talk about sort of always talk about the muscle

475
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: memory that that we have in fantasy, and I think

476
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: especially when you talk about, uh, getting to folks who

477
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily the degenerates to the die hards like we are,

478
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: sort of the more casual players who just know Ezekiel

479
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: Elliott from being that elite guy for so long. I

480
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: think that will probably keep him in the first round

481
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: in a lot of drafts. But I I would think

482
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: when you talk about a lot of you know, some

483
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: of these sharp some of the people who do this

484
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: that those of us will be talking about this for

485
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: the next six or seven months. I wouldn't be surprised

486
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: to see him maybe fall out of that first round

487
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: in a lot of leagues. Um, I don't think he's

488
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: watched up. I was good. He he is. I wouldn't

489
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: say he's washed up yet, but he is teetering with that.

490
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: Like if he is a down year in one, I

491
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: think we can put him on the washed up team.

492
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, I don't know if this

493
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: is a hot take or not, but as of today,

494
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: give me Jonathan Taylor over Ezekiel Elliott next season. I

495
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: don't think that's a hot take at all. Um, that's

496
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: the guy that I didn't mention we talked about that

497
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: first round. Uh you know, John t. Taylor is probably

498
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna creep into that first round and whether or not

499
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: people are taking him ahead of Zeke. I think it's

500
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: going to be an interesting litmus test and an interesting

501
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: argument heading into into one season. Okay, so we go

502
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys to their division rivals, the Giants, who

503
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: were also six and ten, who are in the number

504
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: eleven slot, and uh, you know, we had we had

505
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: our pal Eddie Murphy here for a long time producing

506
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: who was you know, Giants fan number one, and then

507
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: you know we kind of I sort of enjoyed, uh,

508
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit maliciously sometimes, kind of his ups

509
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: and ounds. It was just kind of fun to watch

510
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: him week to week sort of agonize over this team.

511
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 1: You know, at one point we counted them out. Then

512
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: they were back in it and had very much a

513
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: chance to win. I give him credit. He never gave up,

514
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: like he even when they were five and ten. He

515
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: was like, we got a chance. We just need a

516
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: couple of things to go our way. I was like,

517
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit because it's hard

518
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: to stickle your team when they're bad. Yeah. No, but

519
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: he credits to him because he did. He battled through

520
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: uh and and look was basically one game away from

521
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: winning the division. You know, Um, depending on who you ask.

522
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: If you asked Joe Judge, I'm sure he has a

523
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: certain opinion on how things went down between the Eagles

524
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: and the football team. But whatever. Anyway, the Giants are

525
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: are drafting number eleven, I'm trying to think of what

526
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: I thought was good for them in one and in Floorio,

527
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm really struggling to come up with anything. I guess

528
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: we had that stretch of Wayne Gallman kind of mid

529
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: to late season where he stepped in for set Kwan

530
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: Barkley and and played well. Um, but beyond that, I

531
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: don't I I don't know. Maybe you have something that

532
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm overlooking, but I just am struggling to find something

533
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: that I can really hang my hat on with the

534
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: Giants of this season. No, I am in the exact

535
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: same position as you. The one thing I was thinking

536
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: was that stretch of Wayne Galman. It makes me feel

537
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: good at least a little bit about stay Kwon Barkley

538
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: because new head coach and stuff. But we did see

539
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: that they were still sticking with the run game. They

540
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: were still throwing to the running backs, and most importantly,

541
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: when they were getting near the goal one, they were

542
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: still allowing their running back to punch it in. So

543
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: I have uh that that, at least to me, makes

544
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: me think, like, all right, ste Kwon Barkley is still

545
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: the top five pick once he's healthy. But besides that, Marcus,

546
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones, regress. I think all of the receivers regress.

547
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: Evan ingram My Giants fans joke my Giants fans friends

548
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: joke all the time that Evan Ingram is the worst

549
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl pick ever, and and like, it's hard to

550
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: argue that the guy average eight point eight Fantasy points

551
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: per game. He was. I traded for him in some

552
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: leagues because I thought that he uh you know, when

553
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: he get came back healthy and they had a favorable schedule,

554
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: I thought like, hey, this could be a potential tight

555
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: and not a league winner, but you know, a tight

556
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: end that could give me ten points a week. He

557
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: couldn't even do that. So I it's hard to pick

558
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: anything that is really positive for this Giant's team this season.

559
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: I just was, man, I mean they just I look

560
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: at them, like, they win six games, and I'm sort

561
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: of trying to figure out exactly how defensively they were good.

562
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that because they were. They were a

563
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: good defensive team. They just offensively struggled to score points consistently,

564
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: and all the parts of that offense that we thought

565
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: were going to be successful just I just left us disappointed. Um,

566
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned Evan Ingram. The wide receivers were

567
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: not particularly great. I mean there was there was a

568
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: point last summer when I thought there is Slayton had

569
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: the chance to really step up and maybe be a

570
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: sleeper pick, and and that really never happened. Ingram was frustrating. Uh,

571
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: it just it just was overall kind of disappoint I think.

572
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: So that leads me to what can improve, which I guess,

573
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: based on what we just said, there's a pretty that's

574
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: a pretty wide, uh wide gap of what can improve

575
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: in one. I don't know if there's anything you want

576
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: to specifically put your finger on for next year. I

577
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: think the quarterback play has to improve. Like Daniel Jones,

578
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: I know his rookie season was up and down, but

579
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: he had a couple of like four passing touchdown games.

580
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: He he actually I think that the second most thirty

581
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: point performances, behind only Lamar Jackson in and then last

582
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: year he played an extra game compared to his rookie season,

583
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: but still scored thirty five fewer fantasy points. So that's

584
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: a big that's a lot. You had an extra game

585
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: and you're still thirty five points behind, which he did

586
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: as a rookie. You can't argue that. I think that

587
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: he got any better this year. So I think it's

588
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: just another one of those situations. Where you're giving a

589
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: young quarterback another opportunity. I would like to see them

590
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: sign a quality backup in case things start to go awry,

591
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: because then you can make a move. Because is a team,

592
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: like you said, Marcus, they have a good defense, they're

593
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: in a winnable division, and I actually think they have

594
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: pretty good pieces on offense. Are they a great offense? No,

595
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: not by any stretch, But Slayton Shepherd tad. If you

596
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: bring back Ingram Barkley like like, you have pieces there

597
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: that can do some damage at the NFL level. So

598
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: I think it has to start with Daniel Jones and

599
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. And if he doesn't, I think

600
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: we're looking at a team next year that could potentially

601
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: be picking top five, maybe number one with the new

602
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: GM and trying to get a new quarterback here too.

603
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: That was It's funny because they we kind of keep

604
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: saying the same thing over for a lot of these teams,

605
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: that the quarterback position is really where it all starts.

606
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: And for the Giants, look, let's let's be real. When

607
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: they drafted Daniel Jones where they did, a lot of

608
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: people sort of had raised eyebrows and didn't think that

609
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: that he was going to be the guy. Um. He

610
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: has shown some things, but so far nothing that that

611
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: makes you feel like the Giants you know, were spot

612
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: on by making him the number six overall pick. Uh

613
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: And and it really is going to be about his

614
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: development this this coming off season. And and and one

615
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is can he protect the football? That

616
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: has sort of always been his thing for the first

617
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: couple of years. Is just that he turns the ball

618
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: over so so much, um and and puts his team

619
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: in a bad situation. If he can curb that. That

620
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: was part of the reason I was sort of in

621
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: on him as a sleeper of this past year, thinking

622
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: that maybe he'll figure out how to protect the football

623
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: a little bit better and how he can uh, you know,

624
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: just sort of win in that area. So let's let's

625
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: say that we get to July, right and and we

626
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: hear studies stories about him, uh you know, getting better

627
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: in practice and working on ball security and vowings and

628
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: protect the football. Um, are are we going to buy

629
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: back in? Are are we ready to kind of get

630
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: back on board Daniel Jones? Or or were we too

631
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: burned by him this past year? I think that quarterback

632
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: is so deep, especially if like if Wentz is traded

633
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: or something, and now we could start like a Wentz

634
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: and he hurts in fantasy that, I don't think there's

635
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: any way Daniel Jones can even break the top fifteen,

636
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: maybe even top twenties. So realistically for fantasy, no, the

637
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: only thing I know it's kind of a cop outmark

638
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: is but I do think he is like a good

639
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: second or third quarterback pick in a best ball draft

640
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: because we saw it like he had a game this

641
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: year where he had over ninety rushing yards and when

642
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: he saw in his rookie year, like he can score

643
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: thirty Fantasy points, like I said earlier, So he's unpredictable

644
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: week to week. But with that rushing ability, if they

645
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: allow him to run again, he can't still have a

646
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: couple of big blow up games. So in a regular draft, no,

647
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: But in a best ball draft, like when you get

648
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: into the deeper rounds, I do think that is where

649
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: he is best suited for fantasy. Yeah, that ninety yard

650
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: and wasn't that the game where he had like the

651
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: long run where he tripped and stumbled and fell. All right,

652
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: So then let's let's let's look at it this way, right,

653
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 1: You talk about Carson Wentz and in places that you know,

654
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: maybe he maybe he leaves Piladelphia, maybe they trade him

655
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Uh, and he goes I don't know, pick

656
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: a spot. But um, indeed, alright, so indeed, right, So

657
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: Carson Wentzon in that you draft him over Daniel Jones

658
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: next year? Yeah, with Frank him and Frank Reich reunited,

659
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: I would okay, all right, I would think it hurts

660
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: too if if if he is like starting in Philly. Yeah, No,

661
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I think I mean, I think everybody would take Jalen

662
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Hurts over Daniel Jones, just because the upside is so great,

663
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: uh for him and what we saw at the end

664
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: of the year. I think that's that's gonna be a

665
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: no brainer argument at the end of the year. Um, alright,

666
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: So our last team for this round of exit interviews

667
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: is the forty Niners. Uh. They have the number twelve picked.

668
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: They were six and ten this year and a season

669
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: that I think mostly just defined by injuries from top

670
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: to bottom. You know, Um, George Kittle missed a good

671
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: chunk of the season. They're running backs were in and

672
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: out of the lineup all year long. They had wide

673
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: receiver issues, whether it was you know, Brandon Ayouk or

674
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel offensively, defense of Lea. Just injuries, injuries, injuries

675
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: sort of markus. And we forgot the fact that you know,

676
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa missed pretty much the entire year for the

677
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: forty Niners, that that was how bad it was. And

678
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: this was a team that was coming off a Super

679
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: Bowl appearance the year before. Um hey, look all things

680
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: they battled, the fact that they were six and ten

681
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: that you know, it really wasn't until maybe the last

682
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: few weeks of the season that they were finally eliminated

683
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: from from playoff contention. So I mean, credit to Kyle

684
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: Shanahan for kind of getting this team together and and

685
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: putting some fight in them and keeping them in the race.

686
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: But uh, they just they just had everything stacked against them.

687
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I will say, having watched them closely this year, UM,

688
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: I loved won The running game when it comes to

689
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is something we always want. The fact that

690
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: we talked about how many different forty Niner running backs

691
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: this year, Florio, that that seemed to have value, whether

692
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: it was you know, Jeff Wilson, whether it was um

693
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, I know, we kept trying to fit the

694
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman peg in that hole, and that never really

695
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: worked out. But raheem mostered, Jared McKinnon, Um, you know

696
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: who else? Michael Michael Hasty was a thing for a

697
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, right, So I meal there was another

698
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: one too. Uh yeah, I'm like, I'm sitting here looking

699
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: and trying to see who it means Wilson and Mostart,

700
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: McKinnon and Hasty. I think that was pretty much it.

701
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman had a Tevin Coleman had fifty three yards

702
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: on twenty eight carries this year. That's that's gross. That's

703
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: just gross. But he'll be back next year. Loves him.

704
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't get it. But you know the fact that

705
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: we could really count on their running game, regardless of

706
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: who it was was was encouraging. The fact that, uh,

707
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: their wide receivers, especially auk Uh and Samuel when they

708
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: were there, Uh, that was encouraging. Um yeah, I mean

709
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: I thought those were the good parts. I don't know

710
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: if there's something else that you saw from this team

711
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: that that really was encouraging for you this past year,

712
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: But I felt like that that was the part of

713
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: the offense that I really felt like we could get behind. No.

714
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: I completely agree, like I I if you look at

715
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: just the teens Marcus and and how many Fantasy points

716
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: per game they're running backs average, the forty Niners were

717
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: third in the league despite having all those different running

718
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: backs that we just talked about, only the Saints and

719
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: Colts average. More So, what we say is true, like

720
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan his run sys. It's like it's the Shanahan

721
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: run system that has me so interested in forty Niners

722
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: running backs. No offense to any of those running backs

723
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: that we named, but I think that they get propped

724
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: up because of Kyle Shanahan. Uh. And I'm hopeful that

725
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: this year they kind of for the first time in

726
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years at least come in with one set.

727
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: I know that was their plan this year with Raheem

728
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: most there. But sign a running back, draft one come

729
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: back with most there, do something and let's go with

730
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: like one lead back because that back could be great

731
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: for fantasy if they allow just one back. But also,

732
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon Ayuk was a huge, huge bright spot

733
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: for this forty Niners team, I think, and he was

734
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: kind of one of those rookie water receivers that we

735
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: put him in the back of all the rookie water

736
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: receivers that were getting hyped up this year, and he

737
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: was awesome, Like he showed us that he can be

738
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: a water receiver wall and I think in the NFL level,

739
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: and from weeks seven through fifteen before we got hurt

740
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: in Week sixteen, he put up between seventeen and twenty

741
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: three Fantasy points in all of those games, so consistent

742
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: and all that. And then they'll have Kittle next year,

743
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: they'll have a hopefully a healthy Deebo Samuel. This offense

744
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: has so many great pieces. I just I know we're

745
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna say it again Marcauts. I just don't know if

746
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: they have the quarterback on the run. But I think

747
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: as a whole for this team, in this offense, you

748
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: have to feel great. Like two years ago or three

749
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: years ago now it was super injured, everyone went down,

750
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: then a Super Bowl run, and last year everyone was injured.

751
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: So I think next year you guys are gonna go

752
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: back to the Super Bowl. I love that. Hopefully hopefully

753
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: they don't run into Patrick Mahomes again, that would be great. Yeah.

754
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: So I mean I feel like it is as simple

755
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: as as sort of what you picked on though, Right

756
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: when we talk about what needs to improve, I feel

757
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: like it is as simple as they just have to

758
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: get better quarterback play. Right. I think at this point

759
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: we've sort of realized that that Jimmy Garoppolo it is

760
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: not the answer. Um, certainly it's not Nick Mullins, it's

761
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: not C. J. Bethard. Like the quarterback that is going

762
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: to get them over the hump is probably not on

763
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: the roster. I don't know, Uh, it's not Josh Rosen,

764
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: just like I was a self admitted Josh Rosen stand

765
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: which Look, the fact that I was waving the flag

766
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: for U. C. L. A. Brewin tells you how much

767
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: I thought of him as a quarterback. But I'm also

768
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm also smarter to admit that it's just

769
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: not gonna happen for him at this point, right, Like

770
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: we have been a top ten quarterback giving up on

771
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: this fast. Like even Dwayne Haskins got a second season. Yeah,

772
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean Rosen got what part of

773
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: a season in Arizona, and they went out they drafted

774
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and that's it, like a team sense or

775
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, that has been it for him

776
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: since then. So I mean, yeah, I don't know. I

777
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: feel like it is it's just it's it's can they

778
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: find a quarterback, whether they get one in free agency.

779
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's what you're talking about. Are

780
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: some Wentz going to Indianapolis. I don't know that he

781
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: fits with Kyle Shanahan, um, but I don't know. Uh,

782
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: and it was other guys like Sam. I don't think

783
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I don't know Matt Stafford any of these names. Stafford.

784
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: I think Stafford would be a really fun one because

785
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: I think Stafford could still play, and I think we've

786
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: seen it from Stafford throughout his career, like he has

787
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: not been the problem in Detroit, Like it's he is

788
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: a fine quarterback. He can make a lot of throw.

789
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: He's also a lot of fun, like he was sidearm

790
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: in it before, like Mahomes made it cool. And I

791
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: think he would be a good thing. I would take Wentz.

792
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: I think Wentz would be an upgrade. I don't think

793
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: Jamis would be a great fit there. But I mean

794
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even take him for fun, you know, Like

795
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: there's it's weird Marcus, because I feel like a year ago,

796
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: like when Winston sign went to backup and Dalton and

797
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: all these different quarterbacks. We were kind of like, yeah,

798
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: there's no spot for these quarterbacks right now, Like they

799
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: got to wait a year and now I feel like

800
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: we've talked about eight teams on these podcasts and for

801
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: each besides, like maybe the Cowboys were like, well, if

802
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: they got better quarterback playing, they have some pieces. So

803
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the Niners, though, I think if you're any veteran quarterback, like,

804
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to go play there? You have

805
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: a chance to legitimately win a Super Bowl. I think, selfishly, greedily, um,

806
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: I want them to try to put together the best

807
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: possible package they can, maybe called the Houston Texans. See

808
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: what it would take to get the Shawn Watson out

809
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: of Houston. So much fun Shawn Watson in a Kyle

810
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: Shanahan offense, with those wide receivers, you know, Samuel Ayou

811
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: Kittle um in that running game, man getting a little

812
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: thin um. So that we used my next question because

813
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: I you know, I was definitely driving the hype train

814
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: for Brandon Ayouk late in the season. Uh you know,

815
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: I kept saying repeatedly that if he had played a

816
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: full year, we would would be talking about him the

817
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: way we talked about Justin Jefferson and Ceedee Lamb and

818
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: all these sorts of guys, and I was reminded and

819
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: it's it's a fair comment that you know, maybe if

820
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: you know he was there all year long, but if

821
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: they also had a healthy Samuel and a healthy Chittle

822
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: all year long, and maybe it would be a little

823
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: bit different. Um So am I am I too overhyped

824
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: on on Brandon. I you I need to do I

825
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: need to dial it back a little bit in this offseason.

826
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: So to me, the one that worries me more is

827
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: Kiddled than Deebo, because Deebo had a good rookie year,

828
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: but I think I was just as good. So like

829
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: just because Deebo was there first doesn't necessarily mean like

830
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: he's the water receiver one and you can only be

831
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: second option, because I you look at what Deebo does

832
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: so well, and and it's it's run after the catch

833
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: and and they'll you know, design some runs for him

834
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I you does that well also, But

835
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: I think I showed us this year that like that's

836
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: not all he is. Like he can run down the

837
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: field and could go up and at the contested point,

838
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, come down with the ball, and so I

839
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: I have high hopes for him, Marcus. I it's gonna

840
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: be an interesting one that I think is gonna be

841
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: heavily debated all summer. But in this early, you know,

842
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: mock draft that I did earlier this week, I took

843
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: him on the five six swing him and and O'Dell,

844
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: where my wide receivers two and three on the I

845
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: was picked twelve, so at five six, and I felt

846
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: like late, you know, last pick around five, first pick

847
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: around six is of fine spots to take a chance

848
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: on upside because Kenny be a wide receiver one if

849
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: they upgrade their quarterback, I do think so. I it's

850
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: funny because as as we're sitting here talking about it,

851
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: because I've I've always sort of comped Deebo Samuel to

852
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: maybe a young an Kuan Bolden, just a guy who's

853
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: big and strong and great with the ball in his

854
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: hand after the catch. And I don't I don't necessarily

855
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: think that brand I you compares to Michael Crabtree. But

856
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: in the sense that I go back to those offenses

857
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: that they had when they went to the Super Bowl

858
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: and they lost to the Ravens where they had crab

859
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: Tree and Bolden there, uh, you know, four Eyes. They

860
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: didn't have Bullet. I don't think the Super Bowl year,

861
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: but they you know, they had crab Tree and Bolden

862
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: and they had me a Vernon Davis for a while.

863
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: And I think maybe they can sort of kind of

864
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: build something like that again offensively where you talk about

865
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: Ay and Samuel and you know George Chittle at the

866
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: tight end, so you sort of have a lot of

867
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: those pieces kind of falling into place. Um. And then

868
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: the question is who is the quarterback? Who was the

869
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: person who's who's getting the football out? And that's gonna

870
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: make a big difference. But I you know, UM, I

871
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: guess it's a long way of me saying I'm still

872
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, having a love fest for

873
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Aiyuk this offseason. Um, and I will once again

874
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: be be driving I prayed for him. Uh and it'll

875
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: be interesting to see about where he gets drafted in

876
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: a lot of leagues by the time we uh we

877
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: we get to July and August. Um, all right, so

878
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: that was those are spots nine through twelve On Thursday,

879
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: will keep it going with the third team through sixteen.

880
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: I think, um, plus, we have more teams that are

881
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: gonna be added to the list as we get through

882
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and more teams lose, uh that we can

883
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of keep building out our list as we get

884
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: through the playoff season. One last thing go before we go.

885
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: And last Thursday on this show, I talked about Cole

886
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Beasley dropping a new single, and uh so after the

887
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: show on Thursday, I listened to it. I know you

888
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: went and listened to it. I'm gonna say this, It's

889
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: not bad. I liked it. Um, you know I and

890
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I remember um a few years ago when he was

891
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: still with the Cowboys, he dropped maybe his first single,

892
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: and I kind of like that too. So, you know,

893
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: on the the two Cold Beasley songs that I've heard,

894
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: he's two for two. I I I'm I'm sort of

895
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: on board. I don't know if I would ever, you know,

896
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: stream a whole Cold Beasley album on Spotify. But I

897
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: liked the couple of singles. I don't know how you

898
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: how you felt about it after you listened to it.

899
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I liked it too. It wasn't a song that like

900
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: you would. You know, the bills can use to to

901
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: hype it or anything. But but what I did like

902
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: about it Marcus is like he talks about like some

903
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: kind of realized stuff and it was a little bit relatable, Whereas, like,

904
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, you hear some other athletes and they're talking

905
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: about like and rappers in general, like how rich and

906
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: famous they are and stuff, and it's not always the

907
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: most relatable. And so to hear cold be really talk

908
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: a rap about some relatable stuff, I enjoyed it. I thought,

909
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, for an athlete, not bad. No, that was

910
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: pretty good. Uh. For those of you who haven't checked

911
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: it out, it's called Sometimes. You can find it streaming

912
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: in a lot of places, and yeah, it it kind

913
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: of dives into his you know, his everyday real life

914
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: struggles with just self confidence, self esteem, just trying to

915
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: sort of live up to expectations, and it is it

916
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: is sort of refreshing to hear people kind of talk

917
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: about that. I will say this, and and this isn't

918
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: just specific to athletes, but I do feel like, um,

919
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, we have seen more people, especially in high

920
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: profile places, kind of talk about those struggles and look,

921
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: and this is definitely outside of the realm of football,

922
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: but I know, you florio a big fan of of

923
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: Mac Miller. Uh, and you know that was definitely a

924
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: big theme in some of his music, especially uh you know,

925
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: some of his more recent albums. Um. But I think

926
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: it's it's sort of refreshing, as you talked about, to

927
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: hear an athlete kind of go out and say that,

928
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: because we always believe that these guys are supremely confident,

929
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: because why wouldn't you be. Uh, You're you're playing the

930
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: National Football League, right, Like, you have to have a

931
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: level of confidence to be able to go out there

932
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: and perform. But to hear him talk about that, uh

933
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: in a song I thought was was kind of cool. So, uh,

934
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: thumbs up. I guess we'd recommend this the single to anybody.

935
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: It was better than Antonio Brown song. That is the

936
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: one thing I will definitely see that. Yeah that if

937
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: that's the bar by which we're gending everybody, then there's

938
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people. Uh. I think he

939
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: was better than Live Bill too. Yeah. I didn't think

940
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: Love Bells was all that great. Um, so we need

941
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we should put together kind of a like

942
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: a wrap off between sports, right, Like I still think

943
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: I still think Dame Lillard probably wins it. He probably

944
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: takes it um but you know pretty good too. Yeah.

945
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean here's like we should we should have like

946
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: a like an eight mile style real rap battle like

947
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: between athletes, right we like we set up some sort

948
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: of virtual version of the shelter and we just have

949
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: all these athletes show up in uh and you free

950
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: style versus. Here's the one big question I have for you, Marcus,

951
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: do you think Shaq is a good rapper? Like? Here's like, okay,

952
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: so I think he won that battle though with with

953
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: Dame Lillard. I know they had that, they had that

954
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 1: back and forth. I think Shack won. Although I feel

955
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: like it's a generational thing, right, Like I like people

956
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: who like are my age, she sort of grew up

957
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: watching Shacks sort of sided with Shack. I think people

958
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: who were younger, who would he grew up watching Dame

959
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: sided with Dames. I feel like this is a generational divide.

960
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd say Shack is a good rapper,

961
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: but I think I think but I think he I

962
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: felt like he won that battle. How about that. I

963
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: think that's fair. Like I I thought his first one

964
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: was better and then he made a second one, and

965
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: I think that good but I think Shaq is an er,

966
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: is more entertaining than he is good if that, but

967
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: that's fair. He keeps me entertaining. When I listened to

968
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: him so like, he had that I don't like Charles

969
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: Barkley line, and I was hysterically laughing listening. It also

970
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: would help if like could enunciate better. I think that

971
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: would go a long way. Where's improving his rapping? But

972
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: you know what, do I know? I just sit here

973
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: and do a podcast about fake football? All right? Anyway?

974
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: That is it we are Do we appreciate you hanging

975
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: out with the NFL Fantasy Football Show? You know the drill?

976
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: Tell us through friends, to tell us through friends? Right

977
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: review and remember who the hell is Pete? And why

978
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 1: are we doing things for his sake? Be safe, character skills,

979
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: wear a mask and we'll see you on Thursday. Wow,

980
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: um wong wong. I'm don't come. I'm don't come.