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I like that last name. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:17.520 Thanks for having me. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.880 No, thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Monica joining us. Hopefully 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.599 not the last time, Monica. We had this A very 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.599 healthy that's the term I'd like to use. Our health 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.680 they discussion this morning, you said, Shannon, I knew I 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.960 was in trouble because you normally called me when you 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:40.120 called me Shannon, here we go, Shannon Stevin, Ay, this 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.280 deserves a more nuanced conversation. You know how television work. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:45.760 You got the top of the hour, you got the 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.920 bottom of the hour. You gotta get in and out, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.599 and you got a lot of people I wanted to 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.240 get Because we reached out of you earlier today asking 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.640 could you come on, you said yes, So I want 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.320 to give you an opportunity to what you want to say, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:57.880 Oh Joe. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.720 Before y'all go being at we all have a better 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.040 knowledge of the game of basketball, whether it be NBA 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.919 or w NBA. As someone on the outside looking in 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.360 that was able to watch y'all this morning, I want 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.960 to tell you that was peak elite sports journalism. As 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.800 far as conversation is concerned, They're going to be so 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:17.920 many different opinions. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:18.840 Where the wrong? 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:19.440 Where the right? 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:20.640 Monica? 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:22.840 I didn't know you could cook. I ain't know you 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.520 was a chef. Honey, you was cooking this morning. You 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.000 hear me, you was cooking. You had your points. But 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.919 the passion, yes, the passion and authenticity Monica that you 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.800 spoke with today, well, I'm talking about man bruh. I 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.320 was on the edge of my seat had you made 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.839 your points and then Monica, you and Stephen they going 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.680 back and forth, and I'm sitting on the edge of 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:48.279 my seat, like, man, what is going on? That was Listen. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:53.080 That was peak elite. I'm talking about elite television. So 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:57.440 anytime that's any type of NBA topics w NBA topics, 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.440 if the execs at the ESPO knew what they were doing, 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.120 they need to make sure they had that same trio 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:04.880 and all along with Molly. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.840 Because that was great. That was fabulous. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.200 I'm just saying, like I'm not saying it because you 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.680 on the goddamn show tonight, because you see I'm cursing 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.320 that sh That shit was fucking fabulous. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.320 That was a good TV. Well. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.880 The thing is that Oho, that when you do television, 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.119 and Monica attested this, you never know what you're gonna 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.680 get because you have so many you have sometimes two, three, 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.200 maybe even four people, and it's an opinion based show. Yeah, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.640 Monica had her opinion, I had mine, Steve and they 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.320 had had his, And so Monica says a topic like 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.760 this deserves a more nuanced conversation that we don't have 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.839 to worry about getting into a break. So if Monica 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.760 needs to talk fifteen minutes straight, we can allow Monica 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.560 to do that. Monica, the topic came up basically, it's 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.840 Kaitlin Clark is the NBA? Are some of the players 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:56.120 in the w NBA have a personal vendetta? Are the envious? 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.840 Are they yeller? Are they? Is their resentment? I think 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.640 the term resentment, even though show it in showed his 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.240 head up into the conversation. So I want to turn 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.320 the flow over to you. What point do you want 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.200 to reiterate? What point did you didn't get an opportunity 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.160 to make that you would like to make? Now the 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:12.920 floor is yours. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.680 Well, so I'm gonna take y'all. Two things happened to me. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.600 I actually went to the Liberty game on Friday, and 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.520 this episode sort of speaks to the growth of the game. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.480 My fiancee, I know, we just take the train home 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.800 because it's easiest. We're in New York and there are 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.080 a couple of white boys. One of them went to Auburn, 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.280 his brother went to University Missouri. His girlfriend was with them, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.360 another another young white man. They're playing their late twenties. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:37.560 One of the might have been in the early twenties, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.320 and it was a black woman that clearly just left 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:40.280 the Liberty game. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.480 That's not across from them, and they just spark up, y'all. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.800 This spontaneous conversation about women's basketball. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.840 And yes, it was about this particular. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.080 Play, and it was a little bit about the sky 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.120 and Angel, and it was kaitlynar It was about the 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.840 Liberty And I'm looking at my fiance like this is crazy, 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.720 Like we're just on a train and books that you 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.000 might think are watching the WNBA pop into this converse. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.560 They't both engaged, and they started talking about Arburn and 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.880 the Tuskegion. I was peak ear hustling for the record, 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:05.200 but they were. 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:12.160 But I say that to say and I get that 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:12.720 we are at a. 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.080 Special place when it comes to women's basketball and the 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:15.640 growth of. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.120 The game and all of the eyeballs. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.680 I think what I was frustrated by in our conversation 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.960 earlier is that we can hold more than one truth, y'all. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.920 Like the idea of some players being jealous, yes, step 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:31.440 that probably exists. But I think in Caitlyn's debut, since 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.080 or since she has made her debut, there's been a 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:41.800 large and loud family or push. Yes, that is Caitlyn 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:47.280 versus the way, and that is unfair to me. Yeah jealous, sure, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.040 I mean would you be ye if somebody got twenty 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:54.040 money you know whatever before your step footing the pros right. 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.040 I just need us all to do a better job 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.360 of holding room for multiple truth. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.680 Jordan has a rookie Joe right, Lebron as a rookie 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.400 like Wemby as a rookie. When you look at guys 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.440 that have gone on to be great, I'm sure they 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.600 would not say their rookie years were Kate walks. Now 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.840 in the case of Lebron and if we use Wemby's 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:16.000 this year, they have physically dominant and powerful statues, and 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.160 so maybe that has allowed them to skirt some of her. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.679 Kaelin is the guard coming from college, she got get 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.880 away out. The W has to continue to allow her 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.920 to be one of the leaders of this platform, as 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.120 angel Rees has also been. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:29.880 Because I know that's gonna be a hot topic tomorrow, 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.040 and so my thing is it doesn't have to be 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:35.600 either or it can be. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.240 But the prevailing idea that it's the W versus Kaitlyn, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.440 and that these women don't understand the power of the 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.840 eyeballs and the audience that she's helped grow the league too. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:45.920 That's just unfair and that's what bothers me. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.760 Go ahead, O Joe, listen again. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.680 From the outside looking in, I have come to enjoy 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.000 Washington WNBA now as a new fan. I had the 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.800 opportunity Monica to see the Dream play the Wings. I 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:06.480 mean yeah, yeah, Dallas, right, Dallas Wings and uh in 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.600 Atlanta maybe two or three weeks ago, and I have 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.559 never been in an atmosphere like that, from the game 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.960 to the enthusiasm with the crowd, the DJ, everything was 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.240 jumping from first quarter the fourth quarter. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.760 The halftime show was phenomenal as well. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.080 So the engagement and the experience that I had at 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.000 that w NBA game when the Dream played the Wings, 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:30.440 that's what I'm expecting. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:30.680 Now. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.200 I have a chart with the Missus where we're starting 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.559 on the East coast and we're working our way up 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:37.360 to the West coast. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.400 I'm starting with I'm going to another Dream game. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.040 Then I'm gonna make my way to Dallas, and from Dallas, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.320 I'm going to Chicago to see the sky from the 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.400 sky that I'm going to La to see the Sparks 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.840 and then we're going to Phoenix, and then we're gonna 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:52.479 We're gonna finish off in Vegas. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:53.160 Okay. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.800 Now, I'm hoping based on the experience I had in 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.839 Atlanta and that in that stadium, I'm hoping the rest 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.120 of the atmospheres are like that too. Obviously, the game 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:06.120 of basketball is good. I've come to learn all the players. Now, 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.959 I have a bunch of jerseys that I that I 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.320 bought them for my road trip. I'm hoping I'm not 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.200 sure how that I don't know them personally, I'm hoping 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:14.760 they'll signed my jersey so I can put up here 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.160 in a man cave and like I'm locked in now, 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.800 I'm locked in and watching y'all this morning solidifies everything 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.000 because obviously I'm a new fan, I'm new eyeballs to it, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:26.800 and I. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:31.000 Think I think after this year. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.120 They will almost I'm not saying they're gonna be able 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.920 to compete with the NBA, they will almost. From an 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.439 exciting standpoint, what's going to happen next? 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:46.000 Okay, let me ask you this, because this is where 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:51.120 all turned the shining for me this morning. Give you 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:52.040 a hypothetical. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.520 Take it back to your playing days right, Okay, okay, okay, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:02.680 boom this new corner. He he all this big fact 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:03.800 you about the. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.079 Square up with him? Ochoue, what are you. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.560 Gonna do with a squaring up against a crosses from 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.640 somebody who was supposed to be all this and all 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.080 that for the future of the league. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.560 Oh, he's finna get his work, right, So, honey, he's 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:16.280 gonna get his work. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:16.800 You hear me. 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.960 He's gonna get this work when you stay there. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.400 So yeah, All of a sudden, something in the media 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.520 have allowed this idea of roll off the yellow brick, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.680 rolled off the red carpet because this is your cash cow. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.760 Why that idea has caught so much steam. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:35.720 Blows my moment. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:40.000 Okay, we're talking about competition, which is a beautiful thing 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.560 that y'all both have made millions. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.800 I'm let me ask your question, Joe. To Monica's point, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.440 that's a hot shot corner. He's the top five pick. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.520 Let's just say for the sake of argument, he's standing there, 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.480 you're gonna roll up in the back of his legs. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.160 Oh, I see see, I see where hes going. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.000 No, don't see what I'm saying. Just like you fired 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.079 off with monicat needs you to fire off. Would you 0:12:59.240 --> 0:12:59.800 roll up in the. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.800 Back trying to use my technique? No, we're trying to die, 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:02.840 you know. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.400 Yeah, you know you know I don't. I'm not. I 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:10.160 don't take no chief shots, you know that. So I'm stay. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:11.960 With Shannon's example because now you're back to Shannon because 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:12.560 you get on my nurse. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.200 Now, O Joe, you're not gonna do that. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.520 And tell me what percent of the league you probably 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:21.959 think would probably. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:22.480 Agree with you. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:25.960 As far as not doing that. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.400 Yeah, no, no, nothing dirty. 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.360 Probably probably about ninety eight percent because there's there's a 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.559 two percent chance that's something that really don't give to 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.199 you know what, and they'll do it. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:35.600 Okay, So I hate math. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.040 In fact, my parents said last time, he calls me 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.680 a mathematician all the time. But lets grow with me 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.920 for a second. Got eleven games, Yeah, we got one incident. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.560 I think that's a little less than ten percent of 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.240 the events so far in. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.440 Which since happened to have a conversation. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.280 So I just I just want us to hear out 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.160 that competing because you have been deemed the next stuff 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.960 is a part of competition, man or women. Right, we 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.200 all agreed that Kennedy Carter had a bad look. We 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:05.800 all agreed that look for her, and. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:06.880 I'm not make an excuse for that. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.080 I think the thing is also Monica, who did the look, 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.160 given her track record, and who the look happened to? 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.400 Oh cho, I used the argument this morning Trent Green 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.960 got hit in the pocket in his knee, and they 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:24.360 didn't train the rules. Eleven years later, eight years, nine 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.560 years later, Tom Brady got hit in the knee. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.680 Whether they do to the rules about hitting the quarterback 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.440 below the waist ojo, they changed the rule right away. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.360 So I think Monica, to your point, had it not 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.840 been had it been someone else that doesn't have the 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.960 track record of miss Carter, and if it wasn't on 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.040 the person who she did that to, I agree with you. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.200 I don't believe the outcry would have been what it was, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.080 but it was because of who it was. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.360 And I'm gonna actually add this, I think the fact 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.920 that it wasn't called a flagrant on spot is probably 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.160 what helped elevate this conversation. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.480 Baciating across the NBA and w you know what I mean. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.040 So literally we get to call this morning that we're 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.960 gonna leave the show with this and I'm like, this 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.240 is the most non story story I. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.240 Think we've ever let a show with because to me, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:14.800 it's just not that big of a deal. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.240 Hey, that's not what Twitter, that's not what we're treated. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.560 That is saying. And you know how t Maniga, you've 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:23.640 been in TV long enough. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:28.160 You know what what leads man all y'all do is 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.840 talk about the cowboys. The cowboys. People want to talk 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.920 about the Cowboys. People want to talk about Caitlin Clark. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.840 All of a sudden, to a large a larger percent 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.080 want to talk about the w NBA, which is good. 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.760 What is bad is that they're not talking about. 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.120 The WNB and a positive when you're looking at it 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.840 in this situation and I get what, I get what 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.040 you're saying. You're like, yeah, this's a nuanced conversation, and 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.520 two things can be true. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.080 People want to compete. This was an isolated incident. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.280 There's not a whole lot of incidents where people are 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.880 clotheslining Clayland Clark, tripping or shoving or and doing petty 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:03.920 things of that nature. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.720 So let's look at this. This is what it was. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:07.520 This happened. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.720 Well, let me ask you a questions, tell you and 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.000 I we talked about it like, damn, we're a teammates. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.200 Y'all saw the girl get clocked in the back like that, 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.800 Oh Joe, you know in football you do something to 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.120 one I got especially one of our main guys. Oh 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.800 we got this. We got to get your back, Monica. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.560 But we gotta make it look like it's a part 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.840 of football, okay. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.440 Right, And I think making it look like a part 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:31.920 of the game is a huge thing. But I'm gonna 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:32.640 tell y'all story. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.680 In college, we played Louisville and we actually got the 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.560 rule change in women's college basketball because Louisville used to 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:39.640 take a lot around the. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.720 Court, around the whole court. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.800 We were going up in your home stadium, in your home. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.640 They did it everywhere. They did it at Georgetown in 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.440 McDonald Arena. We were on our side. Woman up. I'm 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.040 not gonna name any of my teammates because I still 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:53.560 love them dearly. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.560 Somebody tripped up somebody from Louisville and a brawling suit. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:01.440 We made it. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.760 We make it the Sports Center in a little done 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.160 like now, Monica, it's. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:09.840 Not a fighter. Do you know what I did in 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:10.320 that moment? 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.840 You scrap now, I grabbed the basketball and said, y'all 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:15.720 stop got. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:20.280 Y'all hang to you. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.159 What I'm saying to you is, if your DNA is 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.720 not I'm a gooing, I'm enforced. I'm finish scrap. That's 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.040 not a switch that you can just turn over if 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.960 I have. If I was on the baseline and we 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.800 were I was actually in the tussle that I had 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.280 the fight or fight right, but I was. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.320 Shooting a jump shot. I looked down they was scrapping, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.560 and I was like, oh no, we can't do this right. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:45.280 And this idea that the personality is on the fever 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.560 squad on turning to enforce her. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:49.920 It's unfair to who they are. 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.480 They go pick their teammate off the ground, they grab her, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.200 they encourage her to calm down and take a deep breath. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.919 We're not in there practice. I don't think that this 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.840 is Oh they must not love her. I think we 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.919 might be reading a little bit too deep playing. And y'all, 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.280 they've won two games out of the eleven they played. 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.600 They got some real things worry about in terms of 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:08.600 trying to win versus. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.840 Trying to play. But let me ask you a question. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.639 Could it be a situation if they were had a 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.359 better winning record. It's like, man, y'all talking about this team. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.639 Y'all talking about this person and she's shooting forty percent. 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.399 They only won two games, y'all talking about it like 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.760 she's stewing. Y'all talking about them like they the Connecticut 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.240 Son or the Aces or somebody. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:34.520 Come on, now, do as as women? Do you, guys? 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.080 Because I know, look, y'all keep talking about this and 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.639 they ain't done anything. Do y'all do you hear that 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.959 and get fed up? Like, hold on, bro, there are 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.960 other people out there playing the game too. Now come 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:44.320 on now. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:46.800 I know that this is not journalism one on one, 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.080 oh show, but I'm gonna slip it right back to you. U. 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.080 You were competing at a high level. If somebody was 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.040 appointed next up and their team was not, if the 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.119 needle was moving in the W column and you felt 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:00.959