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Speaker 2: Voting is over. It's time.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're getting to that moment of the most Valuable

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Speaker 3: Least Valuable Danet. They're already screwing things up the backroom guys. Mario,

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Speaker 3: whose job is to direct the show. Also he is

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Speaker 3: the reigning most Valuable backroom Guy, and then he says, oh,

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Speaker 3: why don't we wait to reveal the results? And I go,

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Speaker 3: those results. And then he's going to have to give

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Speaker 3: his trophy most Valuable Backroom Guy to the newest winner.

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Speaker 3: Also most Valuable Least Valuable dan have that coming up

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Speaker 3: for you you coming up. Last night, the Colts lost

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Speaker 3: Peacock's Seaton Poll. Question for the final hour of the

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Speaker 3: Final Day for us this holiday season.

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Speaker 4: Final Day, Final Show, Final, What let's see we got

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Speaker 4: up there right now for the holidays. You prefer to

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Speaker 4: host or travel right now? Sixty percent prefer to host.

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Speaker 4: And then we also have who's more to blame for

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Speaker 4: the USC.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame rivalry going away?

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame has fifty eight percent of that's great.

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Speaker 2: What are we going to go with the final hour?

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Speaker 5: I got one here.

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Speaker 4: From Paul who is asking if Philip Rivers is helping

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Speaker 4: his Hall of Fame chances or hurting his Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame chances.

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Speaker 3: I think he's doing both because he's helping right now,

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Speaker 3: but by delaying five years, like he's going to be

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Speaker 3: up against Aaron Rodgers probably, Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 6: I think he's lightly helping his Hall of Fame case

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Speaker 6: because he doesn't have a big hook besides numbers and longevity.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't have a Super Bowl a lot of moments.

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Speaker 6: But I think this puts a pretty good spin on

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Speaker 6: the end of his career and people will remember that

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Speaker 6: in five years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not huge. It's a good story. Good story.

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Speaker 3: You just you know, you wonder what quarterbacks are going

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Speaker 3: to be retiring and what kind of numbers are they

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Speaker 3: going to have. Are they going to have an MVP

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Speaker 3: way he's played this year, is going to want to

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Speaker 3: So you've got to factor that in as well. That

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Speaker 3: now you've moved the clock, you know, it's five five

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Speaker 3: more years. By the way, it's a meat Tuesday. We

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Speaker 3: just had some biscuits and gravy. We also have steak

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Speaker 3: and eggs, bacon, hash browns. Who has it better.

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Speaker 5: Than nobody back in college.

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Speaker 2: Patty and Louisville. Hey Patty Dan, longtime, first time. What's

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Speaker 5: How are you the only one that ets the biscuits

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Speaker 5: and gravy?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: You have to open in the biscuit.

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Speaker 2: Oh the dnez did not open the biscuit. No, Marvin,

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Speaker 2: just ate the biscuit. Oh Marvin, what's wrong with you? Oh? Well,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Patty.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know we were going to be educated in

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Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, as a person who believes in personal freedom

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Speaker 6: when eat. Whilst eating, some people chop up their.

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Speaker 5: Biscuit, Okay, just thrown out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, that's fine.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Tom, I picked up the biscuit like there was

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Speaker 7: I was holding a ball.

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Speaker 7: I had no interest in opening up.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Mario, if you could please give me the results

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Speaker 3: of the most valuable least valuable DNA.

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Speaker 4: And is there any uh possible ability that you were

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Speaker 5: At Mario last minute to affect his voting.

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Speaker 3: He was told, I tell him, don't produce a show,

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Speaker 3: the short list for Most Valuable back Room.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's made the first round to cut. He has

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Speaker 3: First round of cuts. That's Anthony, the youngest member of

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Speaker 6: Yes, paul would Anthony be the first ever rookie to

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Speaker 6: win it?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Wow. This is his first year.

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Speaker 3: And Mario has his trophy because he was the most

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Speaker 3: Valuable BRG last year. And it's right there if you're

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Speaker 3: watching on Peacock and Mario will bring that out. I

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Speaker 3: believe when you know what Mariol, Mario, why don't you

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Speaker 3: bring that out? Because I want to introduce this year's

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Speaker 3: most Valuable Backroom Guy, Toddy. I'm gonna let you guess

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Speaker 3: who you think I'm picking for the most Valuable backroom Guy.

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Speaker 7: I am going to go with Dylan for that.

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Speaker 3: Dylan, all right, Marvin Dylan, all right, Paulie, I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm just gonna say. Uh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: throw it out there. I'm gonna say Ray, Ray, you

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Speaker 4: can't say it. Laugh you can't say it, then laugh

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jesus go.

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Speaker 5: Cutthroat all right.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Ray, that was a very nice you know.

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Speaker 2: I always got to go for the joke.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry. It's a weakness that I have.

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Speaker 2: I have to go for it. That's Ray. You're very great, important.

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Speaker 2: You're my MVP RG. Okay every day.

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Speaker 3: Now, Anthony who just started with us full time, he's

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Speaker 3: The newsletter very very underrated and very understated. Ray done

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Speaker 3: a great job. Ray with the gambling podcast. There's just

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: Uh, Eric the big german, all the things that he

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Speaker 5: It's like Leicester City. Yes, this guy, this guy's been

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Speaker 3: Eight three his whole life. Yes, so oh, let's go

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Speaker 3: Jay in the building. I know he's in the back

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Speaker 3: But if excepting on on his behalf, if we can,

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Speaker 3: would have Jay here to accept his.

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Speaker 5: Award Vegas and they have Ja on the board.

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Speaker 3: Jay was not on the board. And I did say

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Speaker 3: be Dylan. So Mario not only loses the BRG trophy,

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Speaker 4: You know, that's really unfortunate is that one of the

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Speaker 4: brg's had to go get Jay to bring him out

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Speaker 4: here to be like here, you're the person that won.

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Speaker 2: You go in there comes see that's a.

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Speaker 3: Guyay, all right, Jay, come over here and get your trophy.

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Speaker 3: Oh what a great moment, What a stunner. Look at

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Speaker 3: that there. You know, buddy, am you're welcome Jay there.

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Speaker 5: He is so many newports tonight. Yeah, all the newports.

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Speaker 2: Cigarettes for everybody. Thank you. Jay. Jay did a wonderful

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Speaker 3: And uh, right on cue they have to get him

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Speaker 2: So uh, here we go. Yes, it was busy tarring

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Speaker 7: That's why he was late to accept the award.

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Speaker 5: We had to get him down with the ladder and everything. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Mario, you're an idiot.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I just opened the least Valuable dannette. There's nothing

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Speaker 3: Then there's two things in here that is classic. Okay,

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Speaker 3: is why you you're getting a piety. I can give

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Speaker 4: Probably should have that m VBRG after Uh okay, do.

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Speaker 3: We want to do least Valuable Dan after start Todd? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you guess.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was that you're announcing.

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Speaker 5: Just right to it, Todd.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go myself for least Valuable down.

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Speaker 3: Net okay, uh Setan, I'm gonna say me okay, Marvin.

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Speaker 5: Me.

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Speaker 2: Paul.

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Speaker 5: I think Todd will win the award.

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Speaker 3: Paul finished fourth, Least Valuable, Marvin third, Setan finished second day.

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Speaker 2: I lost.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't that close. Fritzy won by twenty five hundred vote.

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Speaker 5: Haters gonna hate. Maybe it's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's now we get here, we go

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Speaker 3: the envelope for the most value. Dan Paulie was last,

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Speaker 3: Marvin third, the winner by a mere one hundred votes.

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Speaker 3: Franca the double, Yeah wow, you did the daily double

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Speaker 3: again and the loan.

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Speaker 2: Which once again cancels each other.

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Speaker 7: Oute. So I'm just kind of a nomn.

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Speaker 3: You're a you're you're a It's all about content. You're

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Speaker 3: really good and really bad.

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Speaker 5: Give it and take it away. That's what happens.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but Mary'll take that as a compliment.

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Speaker 7: Maybe what the best and the most and least?

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Speaker 5: I don't know what to I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: how to process that.

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Speaker 2: That you do really really good things and then you

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Speaker 2: do some bad things.

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Speaker 5: There are extremes of a people in about my contribution.

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Speaker 3: You're kind of like a home run hitter who strikes out.

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Speaker 3: You're Adam Dunn or Dave Kingman a love more hate

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Speaker 3: him thing with that. Yeah, you either hit a home

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Speaker 3: run or you strike out. You're are Pete Alonzo.

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Speaker 5: How's that always want to be compared to Peter lams.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: If you take out Ethan, who won back to back mvds. Somehow,

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Speaker 4: Todd has won five of the last six.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations Todd. It's a pretty amazing run.

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Speaker 7: It's like a dynasty.

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Speaker 9: right now again, I'm in Idaho with my future in laws.

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Speaker 5: That's a big giveaway. I don't know what are you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man is getting a local boise reporter outside your house,

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Speaker 9: A lot of the younger people had never seen It's

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Speaker 9: We have not watched it, and we watched it Dave

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Speaker 5: I was like, you guys, want to watch it? Scary movie?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean these were successful shows that rent.

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Speaker 10: My kids liked Goonies and I thought that was cool.

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Speaker 10: when I was older, I investigated Star Wars because everyone

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Speaker 10: I knew was like, do yes, Star Wars the best?

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Speaker 10: If you watched the original nineteen seventy something Star Wars

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Speaker 10: now for the first time, I promise you you'd be

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Speaker 10: terribly disappointed.

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Speaker 5: No, No, that's blasphemy. Yeah, man, I don't know, class

444
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Speaker 5: extend to test the time. That's my theory. They were

445
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Speaker 5: so ahead of their time with those movies.

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Speaker 11: Rich that that's one of the reasons why the acting storyline,

447
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Speaker 11: the special effect.

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding, Dan, it's not. I think you also

449
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Speaker 5: have to explain to whoever's watching, like you have to realize, guys, yeah,

450
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Speaker 5: this might look a little dated, but these were the innovators,

451
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Speaker 5: the pioneers, the first imagine seeing something like this for

452
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Speaker 5: the first when we were kids.

453
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Speaker 10: The cool the coolest special effect when we were kids

454
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Speaker 10: was large March's face like we've come along, We've come

455
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Speaker 10: a long way.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying Star Wars is bad. What I'm saying

457
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Speaker 5: is watching it. You kind of did.

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Speaker 10: Say watching that, you know, you know what. I guess

459
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Speaker 10: You're right, I do. I did that gets something. It

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Speaker 10: stinks watching it now. You can't get through the first one.

461
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Speaker 10: It stinks, it does.

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Speaker 5: I think it's just it's bored by it.

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Speaker 11: There there was more storylines going on in older films,

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Speaker 11: and so to Covino's point, Uh, I think it was

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Speaker 11: Coco Melon where I read that they changed the shot

466
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Speaker 11: like eight times in a few seconds. Because the kids

467
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Speaker 11: nowadays they need the screen to constantly change.

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Speaker 5: You're right, Danny g there's the show Coco Melon.

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Speaker 10: If you got little kids, Coco Melons like a very

470
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Speaker 10: popular kid show. They change frames I believe every three

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Speaker 10: seconds something absurd where.

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Speaker 5: It's the same because the kid's attentions like boom bam.

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Speaker 9: You know when I started noticing this, I remember showing

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Speaker 9: my daughter Mary Poppins and I.

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Speaker 5: Think a kid's gonna chim Chimaru. Yeah, Like, it just

476
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Speaker 5: felt slow. It felt so snow and old.

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Speaker 9: And it was that song that the Manhatter guy singing

478
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Speaker 9: when he's floating around. By the time that song came on,

479
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Speaker 9: my kid was sleeping. And you know what, They.

480
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Speaker 5: Start off those older movies with the credits, so the

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Speaker 5: kids bored before the movie even start.

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Speaker 10: Dude, my kids love Wicked. We went to go see Wicked.

483
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Speaker 10: Obviously as a good dad, I'm like, let's watch Wizard

484
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Speaker 10: of Oz. They loved the Wizard of Oz. But I

485
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Speaker 10: had to fast forward the first minute and a half

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Speaker 10: because it's opening credits of who's in the movie.

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Speaker 5: There's like two minutes of opening credits, Like is it

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Speaker 5: what are the words? I see? What are why words?

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Speaker 5: When does it start? I'm like, oh, geez, you know

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Speaker 5: you know what? They need to start backwards?

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Speaker 12: Doing like you know how with podcasts you can listen

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Speaker 12: at like one and a half or two time speed.

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Speaker 5: They need to do that. With old movies you need

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Speaker 5: to be able to like there needs to be away.

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Speaker 5: You want the mar what the more est man in town? Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Right, and then it's just everything moves it two times

497
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Speaker 12: the speed and you can listen to it and then

498
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Speaker 12: it's like it's over in half the time.

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Speaker 5: Oh, they need You're right, spud.

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Speaker 10: They like a podcast or like a I know a

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Speaker 10: lot of baseball networks like s n Y and Yes

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Speaker 10: for the Yankees could be known.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure Spectrum for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 10: That's in mess In mess In all the they do

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Speaker 10: the like a two and a half three hour game.

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Speaker 10: They do some type of like cutout, They cut out

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Speaker 10: the fat and it's like a half hour game. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: the condensed version is great. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So based on this, you know, what do you think about?

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Speaker 9: It's a wonderful life? Is it a fail? Am I

511
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Speaker 9: setting myself up for failure? Are they going to be bored?

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Speaker 9: Seeing through younger eyes? Does it not stand to test

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Speaker 9: the time?

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Speaker 5: Beautiful?

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Speaker 9: I look at it, I really look at it like

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Speaker 9: a timeless story of life lessons and what the holiday

517
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Speaker 9: really means. And I think classics never die. I think

518
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Speaker 9: it's the Wizard of Oz of Christmas movies. I really do.

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Speaker 5: But then again, I don't want that pressure and vouching

520
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Speaker 5: for it, and I don't want them to be bored,

521
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Speaker 5: and it's all my fault, and I don't want to

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Speaker 5: be booed the.

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Speaker 9: Way your nieces and nephews booed you Rich when you

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Speaker 9: show them Gremlins. But think about this, if certain movies

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Speaker 9: and even to us, certain movies right that maybe your

526
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Speaker 9: mom watched or boring to us, like, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Do those sports highlights that we cherished, that we saw,

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Speaker 9: that we watched, that we grew up thinking we're the coolest.

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Speaker 5: Do those games? Do those moments also not translate because

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Speaker 5: they look so old.

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Speaker 9: You could see a highlight from the nineties and it

532
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Speaker 9: looks old and and blurry, and a kid today might

533
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Speaker 9: just think, yeah, that's weak. Or even the moves, like

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Speaker 9: I reference this to you the other day, Rich, like

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Speaker 9: when we saw Magic Johnson making those moves the first

536
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Speaker 9: time you saw on making those moves, the first time

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Speaker 9: you saw someone play that way, So you're blown.

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Speaker 5: Away by Magic Johnson. Nobody us hit today sees that

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Speaker 5: on and one videos and one on one competitions and

540
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Speaker 5: kids on social media every minute of the day. It

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Speaker 5: doesn't hit the same way, and it looks old magic.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of laying dad. No look past in the

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Speaker 5: eighties was something we had never seen before.

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Speaker 10: Magic's on a breakaway and this is the ball off,

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Speaker 10: Like not looking at all was like, oh my god, No,

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Speaker 10: we remember were like a no look past.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 11: You want to talk about that Lway documentary, So I'm

549
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Speaker 11: going to watch it tonight. He was released on Netflix Monday,

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Speaker 11: and when they got to the part where Elway did

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Speaker 11: the helicopter, I think that was Super Bowl thirty two

552
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Speaker 11: in my mind as as a little kid watching that.

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Speaker 11: He helicoptered way high off the ground into the end zone.

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Speaker 5: Same, Danny, that's all same thing.

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Speaker 11: That's the lord Like, that's what I think of. But

556
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Speaker 11: it was just to get a first down. It was

557
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Speaker 11: right right inside the five yard line. Wasn't for a touchdown.

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Speaker 11: And also he got like ankle high almost of carel.

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Speaker 9: My memory of it was different than the reality. You're right,

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Speaker 9: because we're kids.

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Speaker 5: Our perspectives off Steve Mann one nine nine says, nostalgia

562
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 5: is a drug, and yeah, when kids see it from

563
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Speaker 5: their younger perspective, it doesn't hit in the same way.

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Speaker 11: Not to take anything away from Elway, because he was

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Speaker 11: such a gamer in that Super Bowl, wanted it so

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Speaker 11: bad and it was awesome how he took the ball

567
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Speaker 11: and ran. He was an older guy, he was battling injuries,

568
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Speaker 11: but in my mind as a kid, that was one

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Speaker 11: of the most awesome quarterback runs ever. And now watching

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Speaker 11: that documentary, I was like, yeah, it was cool, but

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Speaker 11: we've seen bigger, faster, stronger quarterbacks running the football.

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Speaker 5: Now that's that's weird. I just googled John Elway doing

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Speaker 5: the helicopter and I got something else.

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Speaker 11: The footage of that. Yeah, I think that was far

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Speaker 11: bro farv coodn't helicopter tho, it was weird.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, like a mad dog will like bring up Bob

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Speaker 9: Coozy all the time, Bob Kuzy, And then you'll look

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Speaker 9: at the highlights and like Bob Coosey was playing a

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Speaker 9: bunch of goofy white guys. He had no competition, and

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Speaker 9: you're not really impressed with it. That's how your kids

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Speaker 9: look like. Look at Mike Tyson highlight and they're like, yeah, but.

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Speaker 5: That look who he's fighting.

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Speaker 12: It looks like the way he's fighting some bum by

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Speaker 12: the way, if you looked at a Bob Coosey clip

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Speaker 12: when you were kid, it would be the equivalent of

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Speaker 12: looking at something from like the two thousands.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm telling you that. That's that's the age difference.

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Speaker 5: These movies, these highlights, these sports moments.

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Speaker 9: Forget about an entire game. Think of like the greatest game,

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Speaker 9: the flu Game.

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Speaker 5: Think about the greatest game you mentioned, Brett Farv, Brett

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Speaker 5: Farv's game when he when his dad died and he

593
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Speaker 5: threw for a million yards. Think of a legendary game.

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Speaker 5: A kid today would never even want to sit through

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Speaker 5: it because it looks old. As simple as that, it

596
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Speaker 5: could be the greatest game. They don't care because it

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Speaker 5: doesn't work with them. It's not enough stimulation. That's the

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Speaker 5: shame of it. My kids watch it.

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Speaker 10: But you remember I told the story a while back,

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Speaker 10: how I showed my kids the Mets eighty six game

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Speaker 10: six gets by Buckner, and my kids like, Dad is like,

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Speaker 10: it's all blurry, Like is it Like, is something wrong?

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Speaker 5: It's all blurry? I'm like no, But hey, Rich, you

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Speaker 5: remember when.

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Speaker 9: You were a kid, you thought life was in black

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Speaker 9: and white because all your Grandpappy's pictures and movies were

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Speaker 9: in black and white.

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Speaker 5: My grandparents would tell me a story, I would picture

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Speaker 5: it in black and white. I thought your kids probably think.

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Speaker 5: Your kids probably think we grew up in the blurry era. Dad.

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Speaker 5: When you were a kid, was everything just blurry?

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Speaker 10: You ask a college kid now, You ever see where

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Speaker 10: they ask a college athlete's like, what makes someone old?

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Speaker 5: And they're like, yeah, when they were born in the

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Speaker 5: nineteen hundreds, Jesus. So basically the question is if classics

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Speaker 5: like It's a wonderful Life might not stand in the

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Speaker 5: test of time.

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure if it does. I haven't really put

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Speaker 9: it to the test yet, and I don't think it will.

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Speaker 9: I really don't. That's why I'm hesitant to these moments

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Speaker 9: that we cherished growing up in the world of sports.

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Speaker 9: Like Danny g said, the John l a helicopter, Like,

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Speaker 9: we have this vision of this legendary moment in our brain.

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Speaker 9: Kids today would hold home at this moment, and you

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Speaker 9: feel insulted as a result.

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Speaker 5: It's just how it.

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Speaker 10: Is Coch when you think of sports movies, see to

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Speaker 10: combine them ball movies and sports. And by the way,

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Speaker 10: I'm curious what people think at Covine on Rich, at

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Speaker 10: Fox Sports Radio, and of course eight seven, seven, nine

631
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Speaker 10: to nine on Fox. I am curious if people think,

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Speaker 10: first of all, will It's a wonderful life translate to

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Speaker 10: anyone that's never seen it?

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Speaker 5: Now, that's question number one.

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Speaker 10: Number two sports movies, which are so near and dear

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Speaker 10: to us as sports fans and movie fans. I heard

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Speaker 10: our pal Colin Cowhard recently talking about how.

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Speaker 5: Stars Star Stars, the best stars attract stars, the best

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Speaker 5: sports movie.

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Speaker 10: Ever, and he was very adamant in saying Star's Brian Song,

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Speaker 10: which I thought was an emotional, tear jerking great movie.

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Speaker 10: But would anyone younger now have the patience to sit

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Speaker 10: through Brian's song?

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Speaker 5: Nope, North Dawlands forty Caddy Shack, No young person would

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Speaker 5: ever sit through that, no matter.

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Speaker 9: How great it is. We're not saying it's not great.

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Speaker 9: We're just giving you the truth.

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Speaker 5: So all these things that are near and dear, they're

649
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Speaker 5: not fast moving enough. These kids have pee brains.

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Speaker 9: Social media has rotted everybody's attention span, including ours, especially kids,

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Speaker 9: And I made this point recently rich and I'll make

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Speaker 9: it again. The difference between us. If you're forty something

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Speaker 9: around that age, you're fluent an old guy in the

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Speaker 9: analog lifestyle, but you're also fluent in fast moving social

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Speaker 9: media culture of today. If you go up younger than that,

656
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Speaker 9: your only reference is fast moving social media culture. You

657
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Speaker 9: do not have the attention span. You're not fluent in

658
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Speaker 9: old timey time analog, slow moving movies.

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Speaker 5: You have no patience for it. You think it sucks.

660
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 5: There's nothing that anyone could say that could convince you

661
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Speaker 5: that at one time this was cool because in their mind,

662
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Speaker 5: it's not. They don't have that reference point. That's what

663
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: makes gen X and and you're you're after that, right,

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Speaker 5: what you are?

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Speaker 2: What are you?

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Speaker 5: Rich? ALFALFA generation? What is it? Alpha? Jen Alpha? I'm

667
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Speaker 5: I'm a gen X? Right? Are you a gen X?

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Speaker 5: I think I'm.

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Speaker 10: I'm borderline millennial. If you're born in not around nineteen

670
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Speaker 10: eighty early eighties.

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Speaker 9: We can appreciate both. That's what makes us unique. That's

672
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Speaker 9: what makes us valuable. Honestly, we're fluent in two different mindsets.

673
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Speaker 9: It's like being being fluent in like android and iOS.

674
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 9: You know your mind works in both ways. A younger

675
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 9: person only wants fast moving content, or they're falling asleep,

676
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Speaker 9: or they're looking at their phone, or they're not interested.

677
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Speaker 5: Do you think some younger person.

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Speaker 10: Who is spending their free time playing stupid games like

679
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Speaker 10: all right, dog dog dog cat dog Cat like people

680
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Speaker 10: that are doing stupid TikTok Instagram games, do you think

681
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 10: they're gonna sit down for two hours and watch a

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Speaker 10: black and white Christmas movie.

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Speaker 9: No, that's the shame of it. So if that is true,

684
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Speaker 9: that's what I'm saying. If that is true, and we

685
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Speaker 9: all agree, it probably is the same applies to these

686
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Speaker 9: sports highlights, the games that we hold near and dear

687
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 9: to our hearts. They do not care. All right, here's

688
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 9: what we're gonna do.

689
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 10: We're gonna take your feedback thoughts on old school sports clips,

690
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 10: sports highlights, old school movies.

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00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 9: Do they goofy? You know how goofy stirrups must look

692
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 9: to a young kid? George Bretton is nineteen eighty stirrups?

693
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 2: What are those?

694
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Speaker 5: Dad? Well, we used to put these things over your

695
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 5: sock called stirrups. What are you from the eighteen hundred, dad? Yeah?

696
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 5: But why were we all were stirrups. Yeah, but dad,

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00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 5: why don't why to hold up your stockings?

698
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 10: But but dad, why don't they just wear baseball socks?

699
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Speaker 5: Right? Hey, hey dad, how come the kickers only had

700
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Speaker 5: one bar in their helmet? Are you from the eighteen hundreds?

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Speaker 5: So you know what I mean? You're trying to tell

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Speaker 5: them that it's cool and they're like, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: The evolution of of what we appreciated it because we

706
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: lived both lives. We're at different generation. Younger generation has

707
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 5: no exposure to anything but fast moving, fast acting social

708
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 5: media expectation. The wild thing is the attention span is

709
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 5: not there, so is disintegrated your thoughts.

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Speaker 10: It's a wonderful life. Sports highlights and you know what's

711
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 10: interesting too. What was impressive then versus now also changed.

712
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 10: My quick example would be you're seeing, guys, what did

713
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 10: Cam little kick the other day in practice seventy three

714
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 10: yard a seventy three yard field goal that they said

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Speaker 10: would have been good from seventy five and he just

716
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 10: missed a seventy five yarder and the other Eddie Pinero

717
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 10: and the Niners on Monday Night football, just for the

718
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 10: heck of it, tried like a sixty five yarder at

719
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Speaker 10: the half and it joinked off the thing.

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Speaker 5: It was like, oh, man, if you tell kids, yeah,

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Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills they've lost four Super Rolls in a row,

722
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: one because of a missed field goal, and you're they're thinking, oh,

723
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Speaker 5: what did the kicker miss like a sixty seventy fifty

724
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Speaker 5: yard field goal? No, it is a thirty nine yard

725
00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 5: field goal.

726
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Speaker 10: Scotty Norwood like, it's like looking, but we didn't think

727
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Speaker 10: it was a chip shot.

728
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Speaker 5: Then yes, that's what I'm saying. They're saying through different

729
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 5: as simple.

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Speaker 5: He's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox. Normally we do our show,

736
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Speaker 5: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Monday through Friday.

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Speaker 5: we are normally alongside LeVar Arrington. But LeVar Arrington decided

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Speaker 5: not to do today's show.

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Speaker 7: I mean, no, don't shame him. Don't do this. What

741
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Speaker 7: do you mean this? This is what you guys do

742
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Speaker 7: when one of us isn't here.

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Speaker 5: I got listen, we.

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Speaker 7: Don't get into this. He's got five kids, they're all

745
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 7: over the country. I got five that are young. We're

746
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 7: tied up with things. You're the one that would you know,

747
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Speaker 7: work from two to five am every night if if

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Speaker 7: given the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the only time in my house.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: We're building our family and we're we know, with our

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Speaker 7: family do in the holiday I I think that's okay.

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Speaker 5: It's the only time I'm able to speak English. So

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Speaker 5: like I'm I'm happy to be filling in here for

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Speaker 5: the Dan Patrick Show. You know, it's nice to have

757
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Speaker 5: a home game from time to time, but we will

758
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Speaker 5: be taking you all the way up until New Eastern

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Speaker 5: just tell you this because I know you were like

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Speaker 5: belittling the Hawaii Bowl. Okay, and I get it, whoa

770
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: whoa they playing?

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Speaker 7: Was not belittling anything, just said where is the game played?

772
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Speaker 7: And you got defensive? Have your Rainbow Warriors coming back

773
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 7: and winning it because they're playing essentially a home game.

774
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Speaker 5: And look, you know, yes, that is a home game.

775
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Speaker 5: And it's in front of a packed house of like

776
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Speaker 5: thirty five people. And look, I get all that, like,

777
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Speaker 5: all of that is well attended.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of there's a lot of Hawaiians there.

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Speaker 5: You know, Hey, interesting camrangles. I'll just I'll just put

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Speaker 5: it that way, very very interesting. How they how they

781
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: present present that game. But you know they're working on

782
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 5: a new stadium. They're working on a new stadium. A

783
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 5: Loha stadium is gone and buried. So all of that

784
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: is is is a disappointment. But I will say this,

785
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 5: and I know that people dismiss Bowl games in general

786
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 5: these days and say, well, you know, who cares about this?

787
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 5: It's a goofy sponsor and nobody wants to be a

788
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 5: part of this and nobody wants to be it is

789
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 5: kind of cool to just have random college football games

790
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Speaker 5: on in the middle of the day during the holidays.

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Speaker 5: It is kind of cool. Like I mean, and I'm

792
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Speaker 5: not even saying from a gambling standpoint. You don't know

793
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Speaker 5: who you're betting on, and I get that it's an exhibition.

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 5: I still like random bowl games just thrown in in

795
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Speaker 5: the middle of a Friday, Like I just I like it,

796
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: and I'm never gonna not like it, and I hope

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Speaker 5: that it continues on for as long as it does,

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Speaker 5: because I think there is something fun about it. Maybe

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Speaker 5: I'm in the minority, but I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 5: these random games just in the middle of the week.

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, if we need like the bowl games to

802
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Speaker 7: be that, it's great. I guess like I love football,

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Speaker 7: I love any level of football, and seeing them on

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Speaker 7: at any point in time during the day, like that's

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Speaker 7: one of my favorite parts to it. I just I

806
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 7: think the tough thing is for where college football is at.

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00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 7: For the fan, that's what we love, that's what we've

808
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 7: always known, and unfortunately for the players and coaches this

809
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 7: time of year isn't that anymore. You know, these players

810
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 7: now are being asked to play an exhibition game with

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Speaker 7: a coach that may may not be staying, and it's

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Speaker 7: not usually a part of their deal, their contract. I mean,

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Speaker 7: that's as crazy as that sounds to admit. That's how

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Speaker 7: this works. You know, when you do a contract before

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00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 7: the season, sometimes there's some things laid in that out

816
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 7: in there, sometimes there's not. And these exhibition games are

817
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Speaker 7: ones that most of the agents at the college level

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Speaker 7: who represent players are probably not factoring those players into

819
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Speaker 7: playing those and it stinks, but it's where college football is.

820
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 7: It's now at a professional model. So I know it.

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Speaker 7: It's tough for us as fans to hear about these

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Speaker 7: guys opting out, guys who transfer the portal coaches, you know,

823
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Speaker 7: with one foot out the door. But this is that

824
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 7: the adults at the table have all made and we

825
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 7: now no longer have this amateur sport and important because

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Speaker 7: we've given power back to the players and they're and

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Speaker 7: they're utilizing that. They're getting compensated for what they should

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Speaker 7: have been compensated all along. And I looked up further

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Speaker 7: because it's funny you bring up like bullseason college football,

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Speaker 7: the thing that's like glaringly obvious to me. That becomes

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Speaker 7: like the biggest issue in college athletics is what we're

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Speaker 7: seeing in college basketball. Like you have players who have

833
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Speaker 7: been drafted that went overseas to play professional basketball that

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Speaker 7: are now joining teams with like a semester to play,

835
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Speaker 7: or players leaving like the G League. Right, it's like

836
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Speaker 7: coming back to college basketball. And then if that doesn't

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Speaker 7: tell you this model is completely jacked up, I don't

838
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Speaker 7: know what.

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Speaker 5: Does shout out to? Uh, Brandon Whedon, Chris Wank. You know,

840
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: they were really ahead of their time, all right, they

841
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 5: were really ahead of their time.

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00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 7: They were different, right, Like those are guys who played

843
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 7: professional sports in a different sport and then they came

844
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Speaker 7: back to football. These are guys who are the same sport.

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Speaker 7: It'd been like someone getting drafted in the sixth or

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Speaker 7: you know, fifth or sixth round and then you know

847
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Speaker 7: it doesn't work out for a year or even coming

848
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Speaker 7: back to college. You know that's the difference. Like, we've

849
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Speaker 7: never seen this this happening in college basketball right now?

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Speaker 5: I where did like how did this whole thing start? This?

851
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: Like this it's basically banana land? Was this all part

852
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 5: of uh? Like covid. I was talking to my brother

853
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 5: last night because my nephew plays at Farris State. By

854
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 5: the way, just won another national championship, and he's going

855
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 5: to get a lot more burn time. No, uh, Antoine

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Speaker 5: de Mela, Yeah, he's gonna uh he's going to begin,

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Speaker 5: you know, his soul ami with the name that I

858
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 5: just tried to no, no, no, no no. And by the way,

859
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 5: if you are looking for your straight up white bread

860
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: name anywhere in the Knox family outside of the immediate family,

861
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: not happening. We shop in different aisles, right, There's like

862
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 5: there's there's something for everybody there it there's a real

863
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: pot luck. But like if you look at just sort

864
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 5: of where for his case for example. So he's going

865
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 5: to be getting a lot more burn time as you

866
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Speaker 5: call it, next year as a player because the six

867
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 5: year seniors are leaving. And then I believe that he

868
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 5: mentioned last night that there was a seven year guy

869
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 5: on the team, and I'm thinking of myself, wait, what

870
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 5: like you just like Tyler Shuck? I think I have this,

871
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 5: Like I think Tyler Shuck. Was he a teammate with

872
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 5: Justin Herbert at Oregon? I think he was.

873
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 7: I think he played seven years, he's two way six now, Yeah.

874
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: So where did this? Is this just the COVID year

875
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: just through everything for a loop. Is that where we're

876
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: at now?

877
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 7: That was part of it. But I think even with

878
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 7: NIL once it was made legal state by state, what's

879
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 7: happened now is there's money involved, and all of these players,

880
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 7: it could be their families, their agents, they're all trying

881
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 7: to exhaust all efforts at earning whatever they can while

882
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 7: they can. And it's hard for me to look back

883
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 7: at that and criticize it because I think most people

884
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 7: will do the same thing too if you're in that position.

885
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 7: And it's always funny to me when you hear critics

886
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 7: and people who comment against this and say, well, why

887
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 7: are they doing that? Why can't they just move on?

888
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 7: It's like, well, if you were getting potentially hundreds of

889
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 7: thousands of dollars to come you know, have your son play,

890
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 7: or you know daughter for that matter, maybe in some

891
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 7: other sports like you would exhaust all efforts too. So

892
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 7: as much as we want to criticize it, this is

893
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 7: a model that was essentially made by the NCAA out

894
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 7: of negligence, meaning they wanted to keep denying the fact

895
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 7: that This is where the sport was going at in

896
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 7: every sport, whether it's college basketball, you know, football, whatever

897
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 7: you want to talk about, this is where it was

898
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 7: going and everyone wanted to turn a blind eye to it.

899
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 7: And now we find ourselves in this position where I

900
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 7: think in men's college basketball it's never been worse. There

901
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 7: has never been a more confusing, crazy time in men's

902
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 7: college basketball than right now, where you've got legitimate, you know,

903
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 7: amateur athletes, guys coming from the high school level of

904
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 7: who are now competing with pros essentially that couldn't make

905
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 7: it in the NBA or maybe are getting paid more

906
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 7: now to come over from foreign professional leagues to playing

907
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 7: men's college basketball.

908
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

909
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 7: And the thing that's crazy to me too, if we

910
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 7: want to make a parallel to just college football. Right now,

911
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 7: everyone loves March Madness, at least maybe besides maybe not

912
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 7: Joel Klatt based on some of his comments about Cinderelsy

913
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 7: that's that's his words, not Mineel Merry Christmas, but everyone,

914
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 7: maybe besides Joel, loves March Madness and loves the potential

915
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 7: of Cinderella stories. What I used to love, though, is

916
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 7: like knowing the players on the team and nowadays you

917
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 7: have no clue. There's it's so transient. There's so much

918
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 7: movement that there's guys who are there for one year.

919
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 7: There's guys who are you know, on different teams three

920
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 7: years in a row, all maybe the March Madness, you know,

921
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 7: debut with a different team each year. It's actually completely

922
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 7: taken away from the experience of it. Yes, you have

923
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 7: some crazy finishes and you've got your you know, sixteen

924
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 7: seed challenging and number one seed, and that's exciting and

925
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 7: I'm part of it. That's added a level of parody

926
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 7: to the game, but it's also taken away from you know,

927
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 7: being able for I think these tournaments and these teams

928
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 7: and these brands to be well known. I mean part

929
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 7: of the history of like Duke North Carolina are some

930
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 7: of the players who played through multiple years of that

931
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 7: matchup against one another. And it's just tough now to

932
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 7: kind of look back on, you know, even some of

933
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 7: these the runs that some of those teams would have

934
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 7: in March Madness that they're not there anymore. It's hard

935
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 7: to have that consistent success. And maybe you say, well,

936
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 7: that's good because it creates an opportunity for other teams.

937
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 7: But is it, like, is this a world where we're

938
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 7: excited about college sports and what it's brought. It feels

939
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 7: like the conversation now is like leveled with what we're

940
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 7: seeing on the court, on the field, with what's happening

941
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 7: off of it. And I never feel like that's a

942
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 7: good thing for the sport as soon as the conversation

943
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 7: around the sport starts being more about everything other than

944
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 7: the sport itself. And I think that the NBA is

945
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 7: battling this right now. You've completely lost You've completely lost

946
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 7: your sport.

947
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 5: By the way, you mentioned the Duke North Carolina rivalry

948
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 5: and all those players that went through all those years

949
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: of the rivalry, Like, how about the fact and I

950
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 5: know you know this, and we're going to talk with

951
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 5: Petros Papadakis coming up here shortly, but how about the

952
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 5: fact that there's going to be guys that attend USC

953
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: and Notre Dame who never know that rivalry, Like there's

954
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 5: going to be a gap of players who never took

955
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 5: part in that rivalry. It's kind of wild.

956
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 7: It's a shame, And I understand from the Southern cal perspective,

957
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 7: but this would be my argument. I think out there

958
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 7: and a lot of people be like, oh, you're biased

959
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 7: or you're not objective because you went to Notre Dame.

960
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 7: You played, Look I did, but I lost SC in

961
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 7: every one of those matchups and im playing against them

962
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 7: in the greatest area or excuse me, era of SC football.

963
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 7: I think that's fair to say, and it's probably factual

964
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 7: at least during that time period where they won back

965
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 7: to back national championships, played for ARE and they were

966
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 7: in contention for it even my senior year when we

967
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 7: went out there. If they didn't I think, drop a game,

968
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 7: what was the UCLA maybe whoever they dropped the game

969
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 7: to at some point you know that season that caused

970
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 7: you know, Florida to go instead of SC. But I would.

971
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 7: I would go back and play those games and experience

972
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 7: it all over again, even if you know, again that

973
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 7: was the challenge of playing against the number one team

974
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 7: in the country every single one of those years and

975
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 7: knowing that, like, our program wasn't built back up to

976
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 7: that extent anymore, because that was part of the reason

977
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 7: why you went to Notre Dame. It was for the

978
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 7: Notre Dame SC game. It was for a lot of

979
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 7: those rivals that you played for. And I think the

980
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 7: tough thing for me with this entire conversation around this

981
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 7: rivalry that has existed since what nineteen twenty six. I

982
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 7: mean we've missed because of a world war in COVID.

983
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 7: That's the only two times the conversation about this rivalry

984
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 7: not being renewed. It didn't start with Notre Dame. It

985
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 7: started with Southern count I started with Lincoln Riley. He

986
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 7: was the first person that introduced this. And what's interesting

987
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 7: about that is he had two years in the PAC

988
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 7: twelve before that got dismantled or at least I should say,

989
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 7: transform to what it is today, where he didn't win

990
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 7: in the conference. You know, they struggled to beat Notre

991
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 7: Dame and so there was really no excuses then. But

992
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 7: I think when they moved into the Big Ten, they

993
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 7: realized like, oh, we actually have to play an even

994
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 7: tougher schedule now, and because of that, they viewed this

995
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 7: game as too big of a big of a challenge.

996
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 7: What's crazy to me, though, is like Pete Carroll would

997
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 7: have never ducked this game, never, And you've got a

998
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 7: head coach now that's willing to that's willing to throw

999
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 7: out history throw out tradition, and he's been enabled by

1000
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 7: their athletic director in Jen Cohen, who should be able

1001
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 7: to stand up and say, like, this is part of

1002
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 7: the deal. When you took the job, you knew you

1003
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 7: were going to play them every single year. That's part

1004
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 7: of the deal. It's part of the job. Marcus Freeman

1005
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 7: took it knowing that Brian Kelly took it knowing that

1006
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 7: that's part of one of those games you get fired

1007
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 7: up for. But because of SC's decision to then leave

1008
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 7: the Pac twelve, which ultimately led to its crumbling, joined

1009
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 7: the Big Ten, and because of their lack of success

1010
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 7: and ability to compete, we now have a rivalry that

1011
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 7: goes away because what's changed for Notre Dame in that

1012
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 7: time absolutely nothing that changed head coaches, athletic director's presidents.

1013
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 7: There was never a point in time where Notre Dame

1014
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 7: asked to be out of this rivalry, even during my

1015
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 7: era where we went to a couple back to back

1016
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 7: BCS games where we could be competitive, but not to

1017
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 7: the lengths of the team that was number one in

1018
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 7: the country. Never and we've still remained independent, which a

1019
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 7: lot of people hold against Notre Dame for that you know,

1020
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 7: for why we've done it, and I don't have explain

1021
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 7: this to you. I mean, there's a deep history to this.

1022
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 7: It's deeply rooted in Notre Dame's Catholicism and the way

1023
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 7: you know, Catholics at one point in time this country

1024
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 7: were persecuted. And why Notre Dame became this national ran.

1025
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 7: It wasn't because of you know, necessarily just because of

1026
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 7: marketing and New Rockney. It had a lot to do

1027
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 7: with the fact that there were teams that didn't want

1028
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 7: to let us in the Western Conference, which became the

1029
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 7: Big Ten because of their Catholic roots. So Notre Dame

1030
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 7: went out traveling amongst the country to play whoever they

1031
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 7: could play, and then became this national brand that was

1032
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 7: born from that. So when people ask you to join

1033
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 7: a conference, maybe they just don't really understand the roots

1034
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 7: and the deep ti there is to Catholicism and why

1035
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 7: that matters for everyone who's been a part of Notre

1036
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 7: Dame since then. But I digress because it's not about that.

1037
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 5: To me.

1038
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 7: It's about se and it's about them not having any

1039
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 7: success in this series of late making the decision to

1040
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 7: join a conference now that they're having a hard time

1041
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 7: competing in and then not having a head coach and

1042
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 7: an athletic director that can stand up and say, you

1043
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 7: know what, like, we're gonna keep doing this because we're

1044
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 7: gonna get this right, because we believe that it will

1045
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 7: eventually get back on top of that mountain. And you

1046
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 7: can blame Notre Dame for saying like, well, obviously they

1047
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 7: didn't concede that to se Which think about that matchup

1048
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 7: in general, Jonas, they never played in the cold months

1049
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 7: in South Bend. They play in October. It's not like

1050
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 7: they're forcing s Seed have to play in inclement weather

1051
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 7: like in the end of the season. They're playing in October,

1052
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 7: there's still plenty of football left to be played. And

1053
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 7: then Southern col gets to host at the end of

1054
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 7: the season at their place, which plays all to their

1055
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 7: advantage in that regard. So, even the way it's scheduled

1056
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 7: as it was, it was never playing to the advantage

1057
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 7: of Notre Dame. It was never forcing them to come

1058
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 7: play in inclement weather at some point in November. In

1059
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 7: South Bend, it's always played to that season advantage.

1060
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole thing.

1061
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 7: Is just it's sad. Yeah, And then the other thing

1062
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 7: is at least you have people like Keishawn Johnson, you know, Patricks,

1063
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 7: We're gonna talk to you here in a minute, coming

1064
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 7: out and then calling them on it. And then you

1065
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 7: have guys like Matt Leiner. Look, oh, you know, I

1066
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 7: believe it's like, come on, dude, and I don't have

1067
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 7: this argument with Matt, like on the phone through whatever,

1068
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 7: Like it's Christmas, so I'm not gonna do that. But

1069
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 7: it's sad for someone who had so much success in

1070
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 7: the series, for someone who's been like you know him

1071
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 7: and whoever else you want to talk about, who's been

1072
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 7: in the history of SC, some of the greatest players.

1073
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 7: The fact that you're not calling this out it's crazy

1074
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 7: to me. Every SC player should, I would hope, unless

1075
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 7: they're just scared of the matchup, because that's really what

1076
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 7: it comes down to.