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Speaker 1: with the King Alexis Jansen, I are back to recap.
Speaker 1: This is episode five, right, Alexis No. Six six six Okay,
Speaker 1: this is episode six of the Royal House, Washington, Orange County,
Speaker 1: and Alexis. Before we get started last week, we did
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Speaker 1: know what their thoughts about this season so far because
Speaker 1: you and I yeah, some commentary, Brody, you can't answer
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of curious.
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Speaker 2: Are you going to read the puest comments from all
Speaker 2: of our people?
Speaker 1: What does that put me down? Okay, so here we go.
Speaker 1: Queen sc says, I love the recaps and very much
Speaker 1: agree with both of you in regards to the boring
Speaker 1: and ridiculous storylines this season. I won't read the rest.
Speaker 1: Uh Nati said, hi YouTube, loving your dynamic. I take
Speaker 1: the pod to the gym, so thank you for helping
Speaker 1: me lose weight. Here, Hey, Emily Shade yeh, the show
Speaker 1: is so boring. I am in tears, like staring into
Speaker 1: an empty white refrigerator.
Speaker 2: That was a good that's a good analogy.
Speaker 1: Yes, re Sick thirteen. This season is so boring. It's
Speaker 1: just not doing it for me. Someone with the initial
Speaker 1: A said, Carlos and Alexis together equals my happy place.
Speaker 1: So look, those are a few of the comments. I
Speaker 1: want to make sure that I kept my word to
Speaker 1: read them to you first as we get into the
Speaker 1: girlies in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Alexis you sick, Alexis, I'm not doing this with me
Speaker 1: for another week. You do not look at foods at all.
Speaker 3: I haven't finished my entire cup of coffee.
Speaker 2: I'm blaming it on that because usually I have a
Speaker 2: red bull something in my hand at Elani and I
Speaker 2: went to coffee today and I think it's just not
Speaker 2: doing it for me. Not enough caffeine. You gotta go
Speaker 2: back to the law a look.
Speaker 1: If it's a kaffee and not the episode, then I'll
Speaker 1: take it.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. Let's just keep going.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Okay, So in
Speaker 1: this episode, we are learning from the girls. Okay. So
Speaker 1: there was a scene that took place between Gina, Heather,
Speaker 1: and Carmela, and in this conversation, they are questioning Jen's
Speaker 1: ability to work with Carmela on this real estate venture
Speaker 1: and they sort of did like a round robin of
Speaker 1: confessional bias from Tamera to Gina. Pretty much feeling like
Speaker 1: Jin isn't prepared nor experienced enough to handle the job
Speaker 1: right that Carmela is going to offer her, and they
Speaker 1: feel like she's skipping a few steps when it comes
Speaker 1: to this. Are they warranted to feel this way or
Speaker 1: do you think, like, look, let's see what Jen does first,
Speaker 1: because who knows what she can do? And unless I
Speaker 1: miss something, Alexis, I don't think Carmela is asking Jen
Speaker 1: to like help her sell a house, Like did I
Speaker 1: miss something in this conversation Over the course of the
Speaker 1: five six episodes.
Speaker 2: No, and I'm so with you. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: not a big deal. And Jen follows her on a project,
Speaker 2: learns the ways it works, makes twenty grand, and then
Speaker 2: decides that this is something she wants to do or not.
Speaker 2: It's not like she's not offering her come apprentice, Like
Speaker 2: why am I having a blank? Not Jen? Carmela is
Speaker 2: not offering Jen the like, come be my apprentice and
Speaker 2: then I'll give you your diploma. It's like, it's not
Speaker 2: like that. It's like, how do you know if you
Speaker 2: want to be a fashion designer unless you've seen a
Speaker 2: runway show or been in a Gucci store or what
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's like, how will
Speaker 2: Jin know unless she follows the way the trade works
Speaker 2: to find it? To go find out.
Speaker 3: So it didn't bother me that I just don't take
Speaker 3: it as serious as these girls do.
Speaker 2: It's like, who cares? Are they bummed that they didn't
Speaker 2: get invited for the twenty grand because I am you
Speaker 2: and I said, we do it for five.
Speaker 1: Listen, Pamela, we're cheat over here.
Speaker 2: You don't just count. It's another just count Friday, Carmela,
Speaker 2: we will do it Perford scoop us up because next
Speaker 2: Friday we might say ten.
Speaker 1: Listen, yesterday's price is not today's price. I agree with you, Alexis.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the big issue with this, and again
Speaker 1: last week even said too like are the girls just
Speaker 1: picking us something to have something to talk about? And
Speaker 1: the reason why I do feel like this one thing,
Speaker 1: well one of two, because we'll get to this strange
Speaker 1: beef between Emily and Gina that isn't tracking for me,
Speaker 1: but we'll say that in a second. I am surprised
Speaker 1: that this Jin working with Carmela has become a storyline
Speaker 1: because it's known on the Housewives franchises that people work together.
Speaker 1: The housewives work together. You know, back in my days
Speaker 1: of Atlanta Housewives, you had Candy write a song for
Speaker 1: Kim Zosiak don't be tardy. Like it's a thing that
Speaker 1: happens right. She buys Chara, Chara Whitfield. We have Dwight
Speaker 1: u Banks work with her like it's sort of like
Speaker 1: a thing to where you really get a chance to
Speaker 1: see the commonality between these women. And I think what
Speaker 1: Carmela is doing, based on Jin's own admission of having
Speaker 1: financial troubles, I think it's a great thing, and I think,
Speaker 1: like there's nothing to be mad about. I just I
Speaker 1: just not buying it.
Speaker 2: Gina just start at her real estate while she's been
Speaker 2: on the show. She wasn't a real estate agent before
Speaker 2: on her first season. So what's wrong with Jen following
Speaker 2: Carmela around and then finding out, Oh I really do
Speaker 2: love this going and getting her license and starting I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the way I look at it.
Speaker 1: Alexis dances part of the show, just.
Speaker 2: Like Gina did. So why is everybody judging Jen when
Speaker 2: no one judged Gina for going out and getting a
Speaker 2: real estate license.
Speaker 1: Eureka and the word of Coprah Winfrey. I'm having a
Speaker 1: light bulb moment.
Speaker 3: I guess my coffee is hitting after all.
Speaker 1: Any So listen, all those are being like, I'm having
Speaker 1: a light bulb moment. Okay, it just dawned on me.
Speaker 1: I now get it. Gina is jealous because she had
Speaker 1: to go the long way in order to get her
Speaker 1: real estate license, which is that there's nothing wrong with it,
Speaker 1: but she definitely had to, Like, you know, listen, she
Speaker 1: got divorced on the show. First of all, her husband
Speaker 1: never appeared on the show her first season. Now, sure
Speaker 1: if you remember this, Alexis, you know the storyline her
Speaker 1: first season eight years ago was he was out of
Speaker 1: town and she was in the OC and he was
Speaker 1: working in Los Angeles, so we never saw her husband
Speaker 1: at the time. She got a divorce, she went through
Speaker 1: her sobriety, which I'm so proud of her about, and
Speaker 1: then she decided to take mathters into her own hands
Speaker 1: and get her real estate license. And she's really a
Speaker 1: good real estate agent. But to your point, no one
Speaker 1: tried to help her. And now that you have Carmela,
Speaker 1: who is really good at this, giving Jin the opportunity,
Speaker 1: Now it makes sense why Gina said Jen is missing
Speaker 1: a couple of steps because she doesn't have to take
Speaker 1: the staircase to get where Gina's at. She's taken the
Speaker 1: elevator and now thanks to you.
Speaker 3: I get it, but I think you're a little bit
Speaker 3: wrong on a little bit, and just hear me out.
Speaker 1: Hear me out, because.
Speaker 2: Jen's not going just because she's getting a first twenty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars gig offer doesn't mean that Jen gets to
Speaker 2: skip all those other steps. Everybody has to do everything
Speaker 2: Gina did, so she's not really getting like a she's
Speaker 2: not getting an elevator ride, per se. She's getting a
Speaker 2: really nice perk at front, like she's getting a glass
Speaker 2: of you know, don perry on before she starts her
Speaker 2: real estate licensing.
Speaker 3: I don't know, She's still gonna have to do all
Speaker 3: those steps.
Speaker 2: So I just think out her being upset that like
Speaker 2: she got offered a twenty thousand dollars you know apprentice
Speaker 2: kind of moment, and other people haven't you know.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. The thing is this, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that that's how I perceive it. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that's how Gina is perceiving it. Clearly, to me, Gina
Speaker 1: thinks that I'm with you. I think what Carmela is
Speaker 1: doing is I'm helping a woman find herself and not
Speaker 1: to be so reliant on her parents Ryan to help
Speaker 1: her out, to really say, look, look, see if there's
Speaker 1: something you can do. The bonus is you're not wasting
Speaker 1: your time. I'm gonna give you some money upwards of
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars and then let's see what happens. But
Speaker 1: I now get Gina's POV in terms of why, possibly,
Speaker 1: possibly there could be some jealousy there based on how
Speaker 1: Gina had to go in her mind the staircase way
Speaker 1: and in her mind Gena's getting the elevator.
Speaker 2: Well, we did a lot of fact finding just now,
Speaker 2: did ant, Carlos.
Speaker 1: There we go, there we go. Okay, this is reality
Speaker 1: with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back
Speaker 1: into the show. Speaking of Gina, there seems to be
Speaker 1: trouble in BFF Paradise between her and Emily. They have
Speaker 1: been best friends for eight years. Gina says she does
Speaker 1: feel that Emily has a history, you know, getting into
Speaker 1: with people, and she doesn't think that Emily sees the
Speaker 1: error of her ways, but also feels afraid of having
Speaker 1: the conversation with her because she doesn't know where it's
Speaker 1: going to go. When it comes to their friendship, look,
Speaker 1: I believe wholeheartedly they are best friends. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's an alliance there. I think if I think if
Speaker 1: they ever God forbid for them, right, I think if
Speaker 1: they ever got removed from the show, I do think
Speaker 1: they'll still be friends. I don't think their friendship is
Speaker 1: predicated off of holding an orange. I think they really
Speaker 1: do love each other, and you definitely do.
Speaker 2: You do feel that there are friendships that are only
Speaker 2: predicated by being on the show, though, like you do
Speaker 2: think there are people that have the alliance or work
Speaker 2: on the show. You just really believe theirs is true.
Speaker 1: I think Heave of the Bro works with alliances. I
Speaker 1: think heav of the Bro has coworkers. I think Heave
Speaker 1: of the Bro's real friends are on the show now,
Speaker 1: not not for a second. I think, no Shade. I
Speaker 1: think Tamra is on a show where she looks around
Speaker 1: and she does have a real friend. I even will
Speaker 1: go and say the only friendships I think are super
Speaker 1: genuine is Vicky and Shannon's friendship and Gina and Emily's friendship.
Speaker 1: I think those are the two sets of friends that
Speaker 1: if the show ever went away, they will still hang out,
Speaker 1: keeping keeping contact with each other and go to the
Speaker 1: quiet woman.
Speaker 2: But see I I add, I add Vicky and Tamra
Speaker 2: to that too.
Speaker 1: I think they You don't I saw I saw off
Speaker 1: of a Girl's Trip episode one. Did you see it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: How could I not see it? By the way, don't
Speaker 3: we want to talk about something on that?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, by the way, thanks Sistuf. By the by
Speaker 1: the way, what a great segue. So look, you and
Speaker 1: I both watch All the Girls Trip?
Speaker 2: Yes, and we said to make sure we watched it
Speaker 2: because we might want to talk about something on our
Speaker 2: pot for this. So yes, because they relate.
Speaker 3: Okay, so why do we where do we want to
Speaker 3: pick a part on this?
Speaker 1: South? This goes perfectly because here we are on Ultimate
Speaker 1: Girls Trip episode one. Giselle Bryant one of the greatest
Speaker 1: housewives of all time, my top ten. She told Tamra
Speaker 1: what Vicky said about her her back. Vicky said it.
Speaker 1: They called the audio of it. I believe VICKI wasn't
Speaker 1: the way she's being filmed, Giselle tells Tamara. Tamara confronts
Speaker 1: Vicky about it. Vicky says, look, I do feel that way.
Speaker 1: I do feel like Giselle is stirring the pot. I
Speaker 1: don't trust her. I want her out of my life,
Speaker 1: but I do feel that way. I do feel like
Speaker 1: you was me Da Shannon. Then Vicki, with her own podcast,
Speaker 1: doubled down on it, saying that I don't like how
Speaker 1: Tamra talks to Shannon. I don't like it. So then
Speaker 1: Tamar responds, Okay, and I'm going to read to you
Speaker 1: the comment that Timer made to that video, and she says,
Speaker 1: right here, worry about your own mean behavior hashtag mom shamer.
Speaker 1: And yes, I do have a good life because I'm
Speaker 1: in control of me myself, and I I don't blame
Speaker 1: others for my misfortune. And that was what I was
Speaker 1: trying to explain. Insert eye roll emoji.
Speaker 2: Okay, So am I going first?
Speaker 1: Or do you go first? Girl? These are your friends? Well?
Speaker 2: I do, and I do love Vicky, everyone knows that,
Speaker 2: and I do love Tamara.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Okay, the only thing.
Speaker 3: It's very objective, and like I said, you just got
Speaker 3: to be honest.
Speaker 2: Vicky has been throwing so much dark shade at Carmela
Speaker 2: Deville this season and cracking on her career and cracking
Speaker 2: on her integrity, all of us on the show. So
Speaker 2: how is that any different Whatchamra did to Shannon than
Speaker 2: what Vicky's doing to Carmela. That was my first ding
Speaker 2: dong that went on be you know, light bulb. Second,
Speaker 2: it was like every single one of those girls. If
Speaker 2: you rewind every episode there, you will catch a time
Speaker 2: when they're all being shady and kind of a little
Speaker 2: honrie to other cast members. So I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just think Vicky's really sticking up for Shannon because it
Speaker 2: seems like that's I mean, that's the viewers. The viewers
Speaker 2: feel sorry for Shannon. The viewers want people to feel
Speaker 2: sorry for her. So I don't know, because I don't
Speaker 2: think Vicky would care if tamer had said that about
Speaker 2: anyone else me, you know, I don't know. I just
Speaker 2: I don't get the whole beef with that.
Speaker 1: I think it's what you said, Listen, I am not
Speaker 1: denouncing the legacy that Tamar and Vickie have being on
Speaker 1: the show together since Tamra debut season.
Speaker 2: Three, right, so seventeen years.
Speaker 1: Seventeen years ago, So I'm not denying their legacy. Based
Speaker 1: on what I've been seeing this season, and based on
Speaker 1: what I saw on the first episode of Automan Girls Trip,
Speaker 1: I do not believe that Vicky looks at Tamra in
Speaker 1: the same light she looks at Shannon. She doesn't. I
Speaker 1: think I think Tamar is somebody that Vicky and Shannon
Speaker 1: both feel like, maybe just not the type of friend
Speaker 1: they wanted their lives, who calls things out the way
Speaker 1: she sees it. I think Vicky and Shannon's friendship is
Speaker 1: based on they both they both leading each other in
Speaker 1: a way where they aren't in my opinion, and I'm
Speaker 1: only basing this off the show where they may not
Speaker 1: call each other out. I have never ever, ever, ever,
Speaker 1: ever seen Bicky call al Shannon. Shannon is not innocent
Speaker 1: and I've never seen her go.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But Vicky is not innocent either, because,
Speaker 2: like I said, she's showing she's not innocent from this
Speaker 2: by how she's treating Carmela this season. So that's what
Speaker 2: I'm I was just kind of like, it's pot calling
Speaker 2: kettle black because all of them have done the shade,
Speaker 2: thrown the shade, and maybe you're right, maybe Tamara. It
Speaker 2: does scare Vicky and Shannon is a little bit because
Speaker 2: Tamra does you know, I guess some people can say
Speaker 2: things in a.
Speaker 3: Kinder voice or in a lighter way. The tamer just
Speaker 3: or she just says a pit point.
Speaker 2: Blank and it's the same thing someone else might have said,
Speaker 2: but the way she says it is much more direct
Speaker 2: or just forceful. And I'm maybe that's what they're scared of.
Speaker 1: No, that's what it was. That's what it was, and
Speaker 1: that's why when it comes to Gina and Emily, I
Speaker 1: do think their friendship is real. I think this BS
Speaker 1: about Oh you are talking over me while I was
Speaker 1: trying to explain myself. I think it's BS. I think
Speaker 1: it's for the show. I don't think it has any
Speaker 1: meat to it. And that's that. When it goes to Carmela,
Speaker 1: first of all, thank the Lord Jesus for Carmela this season.
Speaker 2: I know where it's going right now, and I knew
Speaker 2: you were going to be like, I know exactly where
Speaker 2: you're going and what you're gonna say, and I probably
Speaker 2: agree on this one.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I am going to say this and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to take it back. Thank God for Carmela
Speaker 1: this season. Carmela to me is the reason to watch
Speaker 1: season twenty. She the level of personal story she's providing.
Speaker 1: So she's at home with Danny, her boyfriend. We learn
Speaker 1: in this scene that she has this rare case of
Speaker 1: diabetes where her glue close level was really high. When
Speaker 1: she found out when she was getting breast and plants,
Speaker 1: they did blood work and all those things, and she
Speaker 1: has to prepare herself when she even wants to walk
Speaker 1: or run because of what happens to her. Like that
Speaker 1: level of honesty. And then in this scene Alexis, she
Speaker 1: is so candid about the fact that her boyfriend Danny
Speaker 1: cheated on her four years ago, but she's not over it,
Speaker 1: and she said, Alexis, she's never getting over it, but
Speaker 1: hopefully she might get through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I literally that is so relatable though, because I
Speaker 2: haven't been cheated on, but like I put myself in
Speaker 2: that shoe, like what if you know, John did, or
Speaker 2: what if one of my other, you know, serious boyfriend's
Speaker 2: had It's like I always have said that I respect
Speaker 2: the families that still stay together, the husbands and wives
Speaker 2: or boyfriends and girlfriends that make it through it. But
Speaker 2: I always said, I don't know how I would be.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you have children, it's another thing. You
Speaker 2: don't want to just like disrupt the whole. Like I
Speaker 2: listened to Ryan's roses all the time. And so then
Speaker 2: it's the moms that are like that know their husband's
Speaker 2: cheating and they're like, but we have three kids together,
Speaker 2: I can't just leave him, you know, And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of hard. You know, you got to see
Speaker 2: if you can work through it. Carmela was so honest
Speaker 2: about it, and it's like, I think if she just
Speaker 2: gotten a little bit of therapy, and maybe she is,
Speaker 2: because we you know, she's very honest. She would say
Speaker 2: if she was or not, but maybe they needed to
Speaker 2: get in this couple's counseling and figure out a way
Speaker 2: to get past it.
Speaker 3: And I guess her her most.
Speaker 2: Vulnerable thing that she said was the fact that she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get over it, but I love
Speaker 2: him and I want to make it work.
Speaker 3: Those all can be true at the same time. That's
Speaker 3: very true. It's just how do you move past that.
Speaker 2: How do you stop thinking about the fact that someone
Speaker 2: else was stealing his heart at the same time.
Speaker 1: You are no. No, Listen, my experience working on various
Speaker 1: reality shows. You know what what I have learned?
Speaker 2: Well, have you on first off?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And would you be able to get past it and stay?
Speaker 1: What is different? Listen? And when I say this, I
Speaker 1: am only speaking from my live experience, right, I am
Speaker 1: not a woman. I don't have kids, you know I
Speaker 1: so I think when you are a wife with children,
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't even I can't even imagine what
Speaker 1: that feels like. I'm assuming it's the most one of
Speaker 1: the most devastated things to experience. Right. So my experience, Look,
Speaker 1: I was in my twenties, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it was, it was, it was different, Like it was.
Speaker 1: My situation with that was totally different. I forgave when
Speaker 1: we moved on.
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we've talked about this
Speaker 2: on another we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But so my thing is different, got it? Well,
Speaker 1: I have learned, and that's why I have to say
Speaker 1: I've learned watching married couples deal with house on various
Speaker 1: shows I produced. And one thing I have learned, and
Speaker 1: this may not sound good, but it's the truth.
Speaker 4: Say it.
Speaker 1: If you are unable to forgive your partner for cheating.
Speaker 1: You need to leave the relationship.
Speaker 2: You have to though she's not ready, you know, I know,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: But the thing is this, and I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this to take anyone's side. I
Speaker 1: don't have a a I don't have a bone in
Speaker 1: this dog fight? Is that how you say it? Ok,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: I don't have a bone to pick.
Speaker 1: I have a bone to pick, thank you. So the
Speaker 1: thing is this, I don't know Danny. I can only
Speaker 1: based on what he said. Danny is saying. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm not that many anymore. I I really will like
Speaker 1: for us to move forward. I think at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, Carmela, if you truly are a to
Speaker 1: forgive him for it, then you have to leave the
Speaker 1: situation because at some point it's not fair to him.
Speaker 1: It's not fair to him and the reason and I know, listen,
Speaker 1: I know, I know that doesn't sound good.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get so much for that, and.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's not fair to him because you decided
Speaker 1: to stay. You can't. You can't say to me we're
Speaker 1: gonna stay together, and you beat me up every time
Speaker 1: you have to. I would rather you leave me and
Speaker 1: say you did something so abhorrent to me, I have
Speaker 1: to just leave. But if you're saying to me, I
Speaker 1: want to stay with you and my my If I'm
Speaker 1: lying about the color of my underwear and it makes
Speaker 1: you think about my cheating, I would want Carmela to
Speaker 1: just leave him. There's there's other men out in the
Speaker 1: in the sea. And when I say see, I mean,
Speaker 1: oh c Orange Country.
Speaker 2: Damn good one. Okay, you're on onto it today.
Speaker 3: I feel like also.
Speaker 2: One of the little datas, huh. I feel that he
Speaker 2: could change. I feel like someone could cheat, whether it's
Speaker 2: the hi husband or the wife girlfriend, boyfriend could cheat
Speaker 2: and almost lose the greatest thing they've ever had and
Speaker 2: realize what was I doing? Like what was that? Or
Speaker 2: you know. But I also think that you're right. She
Speaker 2: has to be able to say, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 2: get the talk to the people I need to talk to,
Speaker 2: you know, counselor therapist whatever, marriage, go to marriage counseling, whatever,
Speaker 2: and and move past this or I gotta we gotta
Speaker 2: cut the cut the tie, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen. I feel bad for Carmelo and I've
Speaker 1: known women. A woman said recently, her husband cheated on
Speaker 1: her years ago, years ago. And I want to say,
Speaker 1: let's let's just say eight years ago. I think it's
Speaker 1: around that time. Let's say eight years ago, they're married,
Speaker 1: have kids. He hasn't, He hasn't. He hasn't done anything since,
Speaker 1: you know, like to her knowledge, I don't. You never
Speaker 1: know what a man is doing. But to her knowledge,
Speaker 1: he really hasn't done anything. He's he comes home, he
Speaker 1: answers her phone calls, they travel together. Eight years later,
Speaker 1: she revealed to her friends, the reason why I'm sneapy
Speaker 1: with him all the time is because I can't forget
Speaker 1: about him cheating on me eight years ago. Oh my god, that's.
Speaker 3: Such torture to live with, Carlos, It's torture to any human.
Speaker 2: You can't. I wouldn't be able to get that vision
Speaker 2: out of my head either. I would not want to
Speaker 2: know the woman, first of all, because I would then
Speaker 2: ask I would picture her every time we're you know,
Speaker 2: and be an intimate. I just would. I would not
Speaker 2: want to know who it was. I would just want
Speaker 2: to keep that quiet.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's it's awful and the thing. And
Speaker 1: it's also like to Carmela's In Carmela's defense, excuse me,
Speaker 1: in her defense when she said that Danny bought her
Speaker 1: nice things while he was cheating on her, that's psychological
Speaker 1: fuck up. Is hard because the thing is that if
Speaker 1: I surprise you with a nice.
Speaker 3: Look, oh my gosh, I know where you're going and
Speaker 3: oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the your bag, and you know, like if I
Speaker 1: surprised you with your bag, you know, like.
Speaker 2: I just slept with my I just slept with my mistress.
Speaker 2: So here you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, no matter what Danny does, the guilt gift,
Speaker 5: the guilt thank you, the guilt gift if Danny, if
Speaker 5: Danny surprises her, and the trip to and K goes,
Speaker 5: if Danny surprises her with a new face left, if
Speaker 5: he's surprised.
Speaker 2: Her, coming right now, the flying off the shelves at
Speaker 2: the store, yes, you know, come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 1: If he does anything, the torture alexis of her having
Speaker 1: to question, are you cheating on me? And that's why
Speaker 1: for me, I would say, the thing is this, you
Speaker 1: don't have kids of Danny. You don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but her kids have now been a part of
Speaker 2: his life for four years and he picked them up
Speaker 2: when she had gone through the divorce and they were
Speaker 2: aching for that. So I feel I can feel all
Speaker 2: of that because of being in a similar situation. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like they've got a bond with him, they've got
Speaker 2: a love for him now because of him picking them
Speaker 2: up off the floor. So it might not be his kids,
Speaker 2: but they're kind of his step kids. They live with them,
Speaker 2: they you know, they're all together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna go out on limb here because you don't like
Speaker 1: to state the facts. Yeah, I think, Carmela, if you're
Speaker 1: not speaking to a therapist, I think it would help
Speaker 1: you because they're there is something about you staying with
Speaker 1: men who cheated on you. You're not divorced from your husband. Ah,
Speaker 1: I feel like Carmela has to do the work up.
Speaker 1: Why is it hard for you to let go?
Speaker 2: Wow? Right, that could be part of it. Wow did
Speaker 2: you get did you have a second degree in therapy?
Speaker 1: Well? Do you want to hear a funny story that
Speaker 1: I think some people may know? In college, I majored
Speaker 1: in journalism, but my miner was in psychology.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say that was really I would
Speaker 2: never have thought that thought that you just had. But
Speaker 2: you're right there. Wow, you're smarter than I thought.
Speaker 6: Ah, I thought you were kind of but now you're like, like, really, hey,
Speaker 6: I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it. So but that's why
Speaker 1: my my hope for Carmela is to do the work.
Speaker 1: Because at some point, if if Danny is truly storry
Speaker 1: he and in four years he hasn't done anything to
Speaker 1: prove to you he's done it, then I think I
Speaker 1: think for the sake of her sanity and his, she
Speaker 1: should walk away from the relationship.
Speaker 2: Well let's see, it can all unfold in the next
Speaker 2: couple of years.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, wives work, you know, or episodes.
Speaker 1: So so here we are with Gina and Emily. You know,
Speaker 1: they're doing their Vegas thing, trying on the costumes and
Speaker 1: everything else. And here Gina tells Emily what Heather said,
Speaker 1: and I promise you, Alexis, I'm going to try to
Speaker 1: get through this without sarcasm.
Speaker 2: Well, I've been doing this with you for a while
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's impossible, But go ahead.
Speaker 1: Okay, work with me here. I'm no Alexis. Heather told
Speaker 1: Gina that it bothers her that Emily and Gina share
Speaker 1: room and that they talk at nauseum.
Speaker 2: I thought you said, no sarcasm.
Speaker 1: I'm here to report the news. My major in journalism
Speaker 1: is here to report the news. So heaven's a bro
Speaker 1: who has a house the size of the White House.
Speaker 1: She is upset that friends best these of a years
Speaker 1: when they're on a cast trip, that they share room
Speaker 1: because they talk at nauseum. Alexis as somebody who's been
Speaker 1: on the show, who's been on trips, can you please
Speaker 1: do me a favor and shed light on why this
Speaker 1: is an issue. I have perspective, which I.
Speaker 2: Have perspective that's going to be interesting, but okay, so good.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like they said, eight years ago
Speaker 2: is when it all started, right, Well, you know what's
Speaker 2: funny about that math is eight years ago was their
Speaker 2: rookie season, their hazing season, the season the first season
Speaker 2: that they get on the show.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It is never desired by any housewife who want to
Speaker 2: share a room with someone else.
Speaker 1: You do not.
Speaker 2: You want to go in your room and decompress. The
Speaker 2: two rookies that were on that year had to share
Speaker 2: a room somewhere because they were the two newbies, and
Speaker 2: so they got in the rooms together, and then it
Speaker 2: kind of just stuck. It saves it. First of all,
Speaker 2: you don't always get you know, if you if you
Speaker 2: rent a villa, you don't have enough rooms for all
Speaker 2: the housewives. You got to kind of bunk up. We've
Speaker 2: seen that on even on Beverly Hills, you know, like
Speaker 2: Sutton took the one for the team and roomed with
Speaker 2: with with a man. Yeah, no one was like jumping
Speaker 2: at the bit to do that'll please pick me, pick me,
Speaker 2: I want to share a room. No one does that.
Speaker 2: And so Emily and Gina had this happened eight years
Speaker 2: ago and it kind of just stuck. So then their
Speaker 2: second season, they're like, producers are like, can you guys
Speaker 2: just share a room together? Like that wasn't so bad?
Speaker 1: Sure? Why not?
Speaker 2: Here they are now they're best friends and they're doing
Speaker 2: it now. The women are all jealous of it and
Speaker 2: want to be sharing a room together. I'm like, come on,
Speaker 2: are we in high school still? For real? I don't
Speaker 2: care who's in a room together. I want to go
Speaker 2: put my head on that pillow. I'm so done talking after.
Speaker 3: Right, It's like I could care less about I don't.
Speaker 2: Even care if one of my kids were in my
Speaker 2: room with me. I probably just say good night, Kenna.
Speaker 1: You know, like.
Speaker 3: I just cannot even take it. I'm like, Okay, what
Speaker 3: is the deal?
Speaker 2: And why do you think it bothers Heather? Is it?
Speaker 2: Maybe it was what Gina said. I just remember this.
Speaker 2: Gina said, it's because you don't feel like you have
Speaker 2: a person or of what she worded, you know someone
Speaker 2: to be your buddy, a buddy. It's a buddy's system,
Speaker 2: have a buddy, and so maybe that's what's bothering Heather.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I share in the heck, don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't give two shits about It's it's strange to
Speaker 1: me that this is all of a sudden become an
Speaker 1: issue like and I'm glad you shed light on it,
Speaker 1: because that is true. We saw this with some and
Speaker 1: saying I took it for the team. I share the
Speaker 1: room with Amanda as if it.
Speaker 2: Was Amanda's the rookie. So they all knew Amanda's getting
Speaker 2: in that room, and then someone's got to be the
Speaker 2: bigger person that's not the rookie and go in with her.
Speaker 2: And because that villa in Italy didn't have another bed somewhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can always choose a couch, take a
Speaker 2: couch if you don't want to share a room.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, so see, my rookie theme is true.
Speaker 3: I've seen it many times. I had to do it,
Speaker 3: I don't. I think I had to share. I think
Speaker 3: one season I shared.
Speaker 2: Who did I share with? I don't even remember. Now
Speaker 2: that's weird, but I know I've had to do it
Speaker 2: because I was a rookie, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, it's rare too, and two rookies
Speaker 1: are on at the same.
Speaker 2: Time exactly, that's my point.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, No, that's true, that's true. This is reality
Speaker 1: with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back
Speaker 1: into the show. So they believe that Heather is upset
Speaker 1: because she wants to be in control. I'll say this.
Speaker 1: The word controlled, yes, I think is more so of
Speaker 1: controlling the narrative in terms of what they're saying about
Speaker 1: her when they are filming in that said room that
Speaker 1: they're sharing together, and how that's becoming an issue because
Speaker 1: Heather doesn't want their conversations on camera to be shared
Speaker 1: with the world. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: But what doesn't make sense to me Carlos is it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what two women end up going to share
Speaker 2: room together. Let's just say that it ended up being
Speaker 2: Jen oh oh and season eighteen, Jen and I had
Speaker 2: to share a room together and big bear. So there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: And what if it had been Jin and.
Speaker 2: Heather that had gone and shared a room, They're still
Speaker 2: gonna gossip about what was just what you just shot
Speaker 2: and say a couple of words about a god that
Speaker 2: was annoying or whatever. So why does it matter that
Speaker 2: it's Emily and Gina that are doing it, Because it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who's sharing the room with who there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a talk going. I just
Speaker 2: don't get why it's it's about them too those two,
Speaker 2: Like is how they're worried that they're scheming something behind them?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, I don't I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, I don't know. And that was a thing for me.
Speaker 1: It was sort of like, is it something else that
Speaker 1: out of nowhere? Because even when Emily said, like, we've
Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time, why is all
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's an issue? And then I'm like,
Speaker 1: please tell me this isn't Heathery're trying to make this
Speaker 1: a storyline. I'm not buying that there's trouble in Paradise
Speaker 1: when it comes to Emily and Gina. I just don't
Speaker 1: see it. I'm not seeing it, and I'm not buying it.
Speaker 1: I'm just I like this. I'm not buying it even
Speaker 1: when listen, you know these women, even when they have
Speaker 1: a conversation. I'm talking about Emily and Gina in their
Speaker 1: share the room together where they're talking about like their
Speaker 1: friendship and how they are trying to get past this
Speaker 1: rough patch. Well, you were talking over me, and I
Speaker 1: was trying to help you hear it, and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to say anything about me to Carmela,
Speaker 1: And I was mad that you said that. Emily's like,
Speaker 1: for eight years, I never told anybody anything we talked about.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? You know, Gena and Emily?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Is this something that you think is a
Speaker 1: real issue for them? Because I can't see it.
Speaker 2: Wait, which one is the real issue for them?
Speaker 1: Is what Emily and Gina both feel like their friendship
Speaker 1: has hit a rough patch based on Gina feeling like,
Speaker 1: why would Emily talk Carmela what I said about her?
Speaker 2: No no. And Gina even said in the hotel room
Speaker 2: with Emily, she goes or no, Emily goes. Gina, I
Speaker 2: have over the eight years, you have told me so
Speaker 2: much information that has never left the vault. I've never,
Speaker 2: you know, dishonored you with any of that information. So
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not out here but just blabbing to people.
Speaker 2: I think I think Emily just didn't think it was
Speaker 2: a big deal enough to that she had to keep
Speaker 2: it under wraps. You know. I just did that with
Speaker 2: my kids the other day. Miles had told me something
Speaker 2: and I just spouted it to Kennon Mogus. Miles goes,
Speaker 2: why would you share my private information? I said, well, God,
Speaker 2: that does not seem private. That does that seem like
Speaker 2: something you'd go run and tell Kenna too. You know,
Speaker 2: I think that's probably what Emily and was thinking. She's
Speaker 2: just like, well, I didn't know this was that big
Speaker 2: of a deal, Like you didn't pick apart Carmela's body
Speaker 2: or something. You know, you're just commented on the bag.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm you.
Speaker 3: I you list how I correlated my kids to the situation.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. I love it because it goes
Speaker 1: to show you that look you can feel that way.
Speaker 1: And that's why what I always tell people now, so
Speaker 1: little tip for people not reality stars, because you already
Speaker 1: know whatever you talk about on camera with the person's
Speaker 1: not there, you have to tell them what A said.
Speaker 1: It is the game of telephone, so we all get that.
Speaker 1: But in tells of your children, one thing I've learned
Speaker 1: is you literally have to make this disclaimer. This is
Speaker 1: between us. Ain't that the craziest thing? Alexis. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And usually that's why when one of them tell me
Speaker 2: something that they're like, don't go tell another siblings I am.
Speaker 2: I am a vault. And now they'll even others will
Speaker 2: drill me and be like, well, what was that conversation about.
Speaker 2: I'm like, step out of the way. It's none of
Speaker 2: your business, you know. But like but no, I just yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I just can't. I mean,
Speaker 2: like you said, it's like we're just waiting for some real,
Speaker 2: real drama to actually happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Cavs have a dinner and in this dinner,
Speaker 1: Shannon and Gina get into it because Shannon feels slighted
Speaker 1: by Gina that in last week's episode, during the Carmela
Speaker 1: grilled down that happened. She felt that, you know, Gina
Speaker 1: was pretty much trying to shush her. Shannon says that
Speaker 1: she has every right to speak. Shannon says she has
Speaker 1: every right to speak as much as Gina does. Gena apologizes.
Speaker 1: Shannon apologizes for overstepping.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, that's the way normal women have conversations at
Speaker 2: dinner tables, you know, that's I think what you're missing
Speaker 2: is that we want the non normal, the abnormal, the abnormal.
Speaker 2: You're wanting to throw the napkin moment or a you know,
Speaker 2: an abnormal dinner party, and we're getting the way normal
Speaker 2: women behave. Well, that hurt my feelings. Okay, I'm sorry, Okay,
Speaker 2: move on, dees He please.
Speaker 1: You took the words out of my mouth. I'm literally
Speaker 1: was about to say, where is the napkin being thrown?
Speaker 1: Like do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Where where is Lisa, Rinna Tully, Kim Richards. You know,
Speaker 1: don't talk about my husband, you know, listen, I'm not
Speaker 1: advocating for things being thrown, so so don't be so
Speaker 1: literal rain drops. I want to say that, but to
Speaker 1: alexis point, Okay, you do have every right to speak
Speaker 1: breaking news ladies and gentlemen, Shannon has every right to speak,
Speaker 1: and Gina apologized.
Speaker 2: Gina apologized.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 1: Gina apologize, and Shannon says, apologize for ever stepping There
Speaker 1: we go. The room situation comes up again election and
Speaker 1: Jen says it does feel like a buddy system when
Speaker 1: Emily and Gina share a room. Then Gina proceeds to
Speaker 1: call out Heather and tells Heather as she's getting the
Speaker 1: sushiet away from her hair, which, by the way, can
Speaker 1: I give have a compliment? Alexis please?
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it?
Speaker 1: Okay, because I know people think I don't do that,
Speaker 1: so I want to. I want to give her a compliment.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Heather's hair looks amazing in this dinner.
Speaker 2: I like it short like that.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 3: I like her haircut on her and not everyone can
Speaker 3: pull that haircut off.
Speaker 1: No, I love it.
Speaker 4: Heather Mark August fourteenth, at one fifty four pm Eastern
Speaker 4: Standard time, Okay, ten fifty four your time on the
Speaker 4: West Coast, Carlos King gave heathern to Bro a compliment,
Speaker 4: and I don't want to hear shit about it from
Speaker 4: anyone else.
Speaker 3: And we love we love Heather's hair.
Speaker 1: Heather has the best hair. Love the hair, keet that hair.
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay. So Heather's getting the sush away
Speaker 1: from her hair okay. And Gina says to Heather what
Speaker 1: Emily said to her, and also said like, look, I
Speaker 1: don't want to fill micro manage and I am setting
Speaker 1: a boundary. Okay, Alexis.
Speaker 2: Boundary accepted. Okay, well we got that figured out.
Speaker 1: Boundaries are being set and stood up for herself again,
Speaker 1: had their the bro.
Speaker 2: So mature suiting out of this group right now is
Speaker 2: just it's just something to put in the books, you know,
Speaker 2: such good maturity.
Speaker 1: It's good to see the maturity on another level. Did
Speaker 1: I miss anything, Alexis that you wanted to talk about?
Speaker 2: What else was there? I guess they just ended it well,
Speaker 2: they ended it that Jen said she would end up
Speaker 2: moving rooms or whatever, and that's how they ended it,
Speaker 2: and that she wouldn't get married to Ryan if Ryan
Speaker 2: came to the to the chapel, she wouldn't because she
Speaker 2: wants her kids there, which I get. I get that.
Speaker 2: Remember those two scenes.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: Jin said, I'm just I'm just over it, so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna move my room because I just want everyone happy
Speaker 2: and this was my girl's weekend and I want everyone happy.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, nice, yeah, okay, well what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I need another cup of coffee, but you don't
Speaker 3: have time for you to wait.
Speaker 2: For me to go make one.
Speaker 1: So Alexis said, okay, Carlos, Now what I'm like head
Speaker 1: of the episode?
Speaker 2: I mean, Alexis, I I fastest beast episode.
Speaker 1: Unless I missed something, Alexis, I think that's okay. So
Speaker 1: that's what happened. Vegas one down, maybe two more episodes
Speaker 1: to go, Vegas maybe maybe two.
Speaker 2: I guess it looks good. Next week looks a little
Speaker 2: bit more interesting. So see how I said, let's wait
Speaker 2: till episode eight. Did you watch the trailer of oh
Speaker 2: see yeah from for episode seven?
Speaker 1: Now you mean you mean the next for next week?
Speaker 3: You watch trailer for episode seven? Were they show coming up?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: I thought, see how my predicament might be right because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look at half glassful. By episode eight,
Speaker 2: it might take off a little more because I thought
Speaker 2: next week's episode looked the teaser looked better.
Speaker 1: Explain to the rain drops your reason for that? Because
Speaker 1: I actually agree with you.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't remember everything now, I know that they're
Speaker 3: still in Vegas.
Speaker 2: There's a couple TIFFs that seem to be happening or
Speaker 2: stirring that I think seemed more organic or like legitimately
Speaker 2: what somebody might be upset about.
Speaker 3: And so I just thought it looked you know, I
Speaker 3: just thought it looked more enticing.
Speaker 1: Now listen, Carmela seems to be getting into it defending herself,
Speaker 1: which is why for me, I'm like, I really am
Speaker 1: enjoying Carmela. Carmela. It has a The good thing with
Speaker 1: Carmela is she's not trying to insert herself and other
Speaker 1: people's drama, because that could come across off putting, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like she even I believe was it a Hefler who
Speaker 1: said this to her? I forgotthhood. It was when they
Speaker 1: said when they gave her kudos for standing up for
Speaker 1: herself in last week's episode where everybody was attacking her,
Speaker 1: and how she was able to handle it, not get
Speaker 1: out of character, stay how she felt and they had
Speaker 1: to move on from it. So next week we get
Speaker 1: to see more of that, and look, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: So I agree with you, and I like how Carmela.
Speaker 2: It seems like she even you know, she doesn't step
Speaker 2: her into other people's conversations like you said, or or arguments,
Speaker 2: but she also was very forgiving when people come to
Speaker 2: her and say, look, I'm sorry if this came across her,
Speaker 2: I was hard on you or we all jumped on you,
Speaker 2: and Kamara was just like, okay, fine, that's what I
Speaker 2: kind of like. It's just like she kind of reminds
Speaker 2: me of like Amanda Francis and the fact that she
Speaker 2: doesn't let things get her all and she just wants
Speaker 2: well off. She's like, eh, fine, whatever else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like for her, she's sort of
Speaker 1: like I get the show. I've watched it. Like she's
Speaker 1: not somebody who's like, oh my god, it's so dramatic.
Speaker 1: She's like, I get it, I expected it, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna deal with this. So no, I I agree with you.
Speaker 1: So rain Drops, let us know your thoughts. On episode six,
Speaker 1: Season twenty of The Real House of Washing Orange County,
Speaker 1: Alexis and Album will be back next week and we
Speaker 1: are hoping, praying, wishing, manifesting, Amanda Friendcess, some dramatic shit's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's gonna make us talk about it, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Alexi, you know to find us rain jobs. Alex,
Speaker 1: I love you and I will see you on the
Speaker 1: next one. Boom. Hey guys, bye bye. The Reality with
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