WEBVTT - Behind the Scenes Minis: Questionable Jokes and Turkey

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly Frye and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tracy V.

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Charles Brown slash Artemis Ward this week. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I also said that I would talk about don Ce

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<v Speaker 1>Sites this week. You did say that it was his biographer.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote a biography of Ward in the I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was nineteen nineteen. I just want to warn anybody

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<v Speaker 1>because it's an interesting biography, but if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>read it, the introduction has a lot of gross racist

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in it, Yeah, which was definitely like part of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but this writer's gross racist stuff is worse

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<v Speaker 1>than Ward's gross racist stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's really like, uh, I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the stories involved because so yucky. But like it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where there's an instance where Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Ward does something to kind of like show how stupid

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<v Speaker 1>this black man he's talking to is, and then Sites

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<v Speaker 1>makes a comment on the whole thing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is very, very gross.

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<v Speaker 1>So just if you want to go read some of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, please know it is laced throughout with things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and it's not cool. It is worth reading

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<v Speaker 1>for the understanding of the situation, but obviously with the

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<v Speaker 1>lac that you know, it is gross and it sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I felt it was stomach journey. It was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>even for the time, you are really just no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so brace yeah. Reading about some of his humor reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit of the era of comedy that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I lived through, but like our younger listeners

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<v Speaker 1>may not personally remember, right where there was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a vibe of it being okay to be offensive as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you were being offensive to everyone, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>having like a weird edginess to all of the humor

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of like would include a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>really racist and sexist jokes, but with such a broad

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum of them that it was like, well, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that they're racist or sexist, it's that they are making

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<v Speaker 1>fun of everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of glad that, not even kind of I've

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<v Speaker 1>generally I'm generally glad that for the most part, at

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<v Speaker 1>least the comedy I'm aware of has moved beyond that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it still happened.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that thing where you know, I mean, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>how somebody lands there and thinks that's okay, because I

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<v Speaker 1>am definitely like, I don't I don't take anything too

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<v Speaker 1>seriously myself, least of all. Right, But the problem is,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're making fun of everybody, some of those

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna be a punch down, and you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to reinforce gross stuff that hurts those people, Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>if you're punching up at people who have way more

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<v Speaker 1>power and privilege than you with your jokes, they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be unharmed. Right, And that is why it

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<v Speaker 1>is not okay to use the I mess with everybody

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<v Speaker 1>like approach. There are still people learning that lesson or

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<v Speaker 1>not learning it as ps maybe, but that's yeah, Artemis.

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<v Speaker 2>Ward, Yeah yuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's also the part of me, right that is like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this like a reverse uno that I'm just not

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<v Speaker 1>fully grasping. Was he doing some of these things as

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<v Speaker 1>this character who was obviously kind of a train wreck

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<v Speaker 1>to point out that they were gross?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a little bit weird because everyone who knew

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<v Speaker 1>him writes about how kind and gentle he was with

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<v Speaker 1>everyone he encountered. But those are also people who also

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<v Speaker 1>say gross racist things and may not recognize that he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't being kind and gentle, right, So it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit tricky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really ever post on any social media anymore

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<v Speaker 1>except for very occasionally Instagram. But one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I got really tired of was the people who

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<v Speaker 1>would say the thing quote ironically but like, really, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just saying the same thing. Yeah, And so I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wonder if some of his humor fell into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I'm being ironic, but really you're still just you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying the same thing, right. That is that is the

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<v Speaker 1>trick of ironic humor. You cannot you can't always count

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<v Speaker 1>on your audience to get the joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's an interesting one. I like this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you can pinpoint a moment where kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stand up comedy happened for the first time. I find

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<v Speaker 1>it hilarious that there's an elementary school named after him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, but that's a weird. Yeah, it's a weird

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<v Speaker 1>a weird name choice in my opinion at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>I so, uh, there was an era. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure this still happens at some points, but like, there

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<v Speaker 1>there was kind of an era in writing when it

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<v Speaker 1>was way more common to render thickly all the way

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<v Speaker 1>through the writing someone's accent and dialect. Yeah, like Bram

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<v Speaker 1>Stoker did this also in a lot of his work.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it so exhausting to read works that are

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<v Speaker 1>written like that, And somehow, by coincidence, I wound up

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<v Speaker 1>with the two longest passages.

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<v Speaker 2>Of his writing. I did not do that on purpose. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I find it.

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<v Speaker 1>As someone who loves to read and has always been

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<v Speaker 1>a really good reader, I find it tiring to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get through it. It's tricky differently than when I

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<v Speaker 1>am reading you know, historical documents that have non standard

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<v Speaker 1>today spellings, or things that were printed at a time

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<v Speaker 1>when they the long s's that looks like f's were

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<v Speaker 1>in use. Like, that's a little bit different way of

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<v Speaker 1>brain power needing to be put toward it than the

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<v Speaker 1>invented spellings and phonetic renderings of things that are part

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<v Speaker 1>of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, Charles Brown yep, which makes me go, are

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<v Speaker 1>you the it's Charlie Brown named for you? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>look it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It is funny. The one thing that I find kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hilarious is how he was kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>predecessor by minutes to Mark Twain. They definitely had similar style,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if that's just because they were

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<v Speaker 1>dressing in the manner of the day, or if it's

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<v Speaker 1>because Twain kind of modeled himself on Artemis Ward Charles Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, yeah, but it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. One of our episodes this week was about Franksgiving. O. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Thanksgiving a week earlier. I have so many

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<v Speaker 1>on this one. I have a lot of thoughts too.

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<v Speaker 1>As I was doing research on this, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of things bookmarked, and I I think I've said before,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll just I'll bookmark broadly and then.

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<v Speaker 2>I will go back to go through stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things I had bookmarked as like

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<v Speaker 1>a local news article that was kind of generally about this.

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<v Speaker 1>But this article stated with lots of authority that Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>is always the last Thursday in November, and I was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is not correct. Something I wanted to put in

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<v Speaker 1>the episode and I just didn't feel like had a

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<v Speaker 1>good place in the rhythm of how things were going

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<v Speaker 1>is that in Oklahoma, there was some debate about which

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<v Speaker 1>day the banks would be closed. The state was observing

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving on the thirtieth, but the bank holiday had already

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<v Speaker 1>been established as a twenty third and Attorney General mac

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<v Speaker 1>Williamson issued a legal opinion in this matter that had

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<v Speaker 1>a little poem in it, And the poem went thirty

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<v Speaker 1>dates half September, April, June, and November. All the rest

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<v Speaker 1>have thirty one until we hear from Washington. What are

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<v Speaker 1>some of your thoughts, Holly? While we were recording, I

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<v Speaker 1>just scribbled on my notepad that I keep by my computer,

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<v Speaker 1>sweet baby, Gredo Thanksgiving, get your act together. Here's my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things. One, how much like legislative time was wasted

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<v Speaker 1>on like making the president proclaim it every time? Just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot right, like well just said it and forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think But two, what it really really reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me of as like it was getting into the nitty

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<v Speaker 1>gritty of we're gonna change it to give more space.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's freaking out, But we already printed the things, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're already and we already had the thing, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it this way. We've always done it this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we want to change it? Reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that's worked in like a corporate setting or even

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<v Speaker 1>a not corporate setting has had this moment where like

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<v Speaker 1>there's some process or even lack of process that has

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<v Speaker 1>been the standard mode of doing things that has problems.

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<v Speaker 1>But even when somebody presents a solution that will require

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<v Speaker 1>a little transition awkwardness, people are so mad about that

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<v Speaker 1>part that they can't get past it and they fight fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been on both sides of that equation

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like whoa, and also, come on, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>this is never going to get better if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have this two.

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<v Speaker 2>Weeks that stink.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's what it made me think of, Like

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<v Speaker 1>just if everybody could just chill out for like a minute, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can make this decision. We know it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be awkward. I'm a big fan of the let's just

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate it twice if you love the other one so

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<v Speaker 1>much while we figure this out. But I did it

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<v Speaker 1>made me think about that a lot. I was not

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<v Speaker 1>really as focused on, like the time spent doing the proclamations,

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<v Speaker 1>because presidents and governors issue a lot of proclamations about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff, and so like that did not

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even really think about that as a factor

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<v Speaker 1>in all of it. The amount of debating that could

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<v Speaker 1>go into the passage of laws and like whether to

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<v Speaker 1>ask the president to issue a proclamation that did crack

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<v Speaker 1>me up a little bit. Also just I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>said it in the episode, it was really not necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to manufacture a connection to the like the the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of mythical first Thanksgiving, right, because the Thanksgiving holiday

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<v Speaker 1>has always been about, uh, like the identity of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States as a nation, you know, since there started

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<v Speaker 1>to be national proclamations about it. Uh, and very very

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<v Speaker 1>often connections uh to.

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<v Speaker 2>To wars, wars that.

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<v Speaker 1>The you know, the nation and the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>legislative branch and the executive branch believed were being undertaken

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<v Speaker 1>for just reasons, right, And the idea that like Providence

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<v Speaker 1>was smiling on our war effort because our war effort

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<v Speaker 1>is good, like that underpinned so much of it, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Which that's a whole other can of worms. But like

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<v Speaker 1>we uh, it's probably a little harder for a kindergartener

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<v Speaker 1>to rap their head around then a feel good story

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<v Speaker 1>about sitting down to a big dinner. But like those connections,

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<v Speaker 1>there was plenty of other fuel for elementary school classes

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever that did not involved having children make paper

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<v Speaker 1>headdresses and wear them, for example. I know there are

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<v Speaker 1>still schools that are doing that. Yeah, so yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot. What is the thing that somebody coined that

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<v Speaker 1>was about things will inevitably be compared to Hitler. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some term that somebody coined on the internet, some law, somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna google it. This is Godwin's law, which

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<v Speaker 1>is as online discussion grows longer, the probability of a

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<v Speaker 1>comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches. One, of course, was

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<v Speaker 1>not coined until apparently nineteen ninety according to this Google

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<v Speaker 1>search that I've just done, so many decades after franksgiving discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, not a new phenomenon, No, not in the least.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I also marveled throughout, even though I have read some

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<v Speaker 1>of these documents we referenced at, just how much the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a separation of church and state was such

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<v Speaker 1>a fib.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is such a fib Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I read about Washington's proclamations

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<v Speaker 1>specifically was that like Washington's proclamations definitely draw on the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of God and prayer, but without specifying any particular

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<v Speaker 1>religion or denomination or sect within a religion, but still

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<v Speaker 1>with the presumption that everyone has like a commonality to

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<v Speaker 1>their religious belief that involves.

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<v Speaker 2>God in prayer. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the idea that the like that the first

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<v Speaker 1>presidents or the so called founders were not really focused

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<v Speaker 1>on God does not hold up in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I hope if folks are preparing for their own

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving meal, I hope those preparations are going well, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff can start really early with making sure you

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<v Speaker 1>can find the right potatoes for your potato casserole.

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<v Speaker 2>Or whether they're going to be sold out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Cranberry's at the grocery store, so you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you're working on with that in my and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it's all going really well. And if you are having

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<v Speaker 1>a Thanksgiving holiday in a couple weeks or a week,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, I hope that's going to be

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