1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly Frye and 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy V. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Wilson. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: We talked about Charles Brown slash Artemis Ward this week. Yep. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: I also said that I would talk about don Ce 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Sites this week. You did say that it was his biographer. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: He wrote a biography of Ward in the I think 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: it was nineteen nineteen. I just want to warn anybody 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: because it's an interesting biography, but if you go to 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: read it, the introduction has a lot of gross racist 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: stuff in it, Yeah, which was definitely like part of 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: the time, but this writer's gross racist stuff is worse 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: than Ward's gross racist stuff. 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: Huh. 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Like it's really like, uh, I don't even want to 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: tell the stories involved because so yucky. But like it's 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: one of those things where there's an instance where Charles 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Ward does something to kind of like show how stupid 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: this black man he's talking to is, and then Sites 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: makes a comment on the whole thing that. 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: Is very, very gross. 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: So just if you want to go read some of 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: this stuff, please know it is laced throughout with things 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: like that, and it's not cool. It is worth reading 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: for the understanding of the situation, but obviously with the 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: lac that you know, it is gross and it sometimes 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: I mean I felt it was stomach journey. It was like, oh, 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: even for the time, you are really just no, yeah, 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: so brace yeah. Reading about some of his humor reminded 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: me a little bit of the era of comedy that 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: you and I lived through, but like our younger listeners 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: may not personally remember, right where there was kind of 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: a vibe of it being okay to be offensive as 35 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: long as you were being offensive to everyone, right, and 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: having like a weird edginess to all of the humor 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: that was kind of like would include a lot of 38 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: really racist and sexist jokes, but with such a broad 39 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: spectrum of them that it was like, well, it's not 40 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: that they're racist or sexist, it's that they are making 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: fun of everyone. 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: Right. 43 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad that, not even kind of I've 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: generally I'm generally glad that for the most part, at 45 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: least the comedy I'm aware of has moved beyond that. 46 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it still happened. 47 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: What's that thing where you know, I mean, I understand 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: how somebody lands there and thinks that's okay, because I 49 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: am definitely like, I don't I don't take anything too 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: seriously myself, least of all. Right, But the problem is, 51 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: even if you're making fun of everybody, some of those 52 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: people are gonna be a punch down, and you are 53 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: going to reinforce gross stuff that hurts those people, Whereas 54 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: if you're punching up at people who have way more 55 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: power and privilege than you with your jokes, they are 56 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: going to be unharmed. Right, And that is why it 57 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: is not okay to use the I mess with everybody 58 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: like approach. There are still people learning that lesson or 59 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: not learning it as ps maybe, but that's yeah, Artemis. 60 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: Ward, Yeah yuck. 61 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: Now there's also the part of me, right that is like, 62 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: is this like a reverse uno that I'm just not 63 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: fully grasping. Was he doing some of these things as 64 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: this character who was obviously kind of a train wreck 65 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: to point out that they were gross? 66 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know. 67 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit weird because everyone who knew 68 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: him writes about how kind and gentle he was with 69 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: everyone he encountered. But those are also people who also 70 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: say gross racist things and may not recognize that he 71 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: wasn't being kind and gentle, right, So it's a little 72 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: bit tricky. 73 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 74 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't really ever post on any social media anymore 75 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: except for very occasionally Instagram. But one of the things 76 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: that I got really tired of was the people who 77 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: would say the thing quote ironically but like, really, you're 78 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: just saying the same thing. Yeah, And so I kind 79 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: of wonder if some of his humor fell into that. 80 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah I'm being ironic, but really you're still just you're 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: saying the same thing, right. That is that is the 82 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: trick of ironic humor. You cannot you can't always count 83 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: on your audience to get the joke. 84 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not amazing. 85 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's an interesting one. I like this 86 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: idea that you can pinpoint a moment where kind of 87 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: stand up comedy happened for the first time. I find 88 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: it hilarious that there's an elementary school named after him. 89 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, but that's a weird. Yeah, it's a weird 90 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: a weird name choice in my opinion at this time. 91 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: I so, uh, there was an era. I mean, I'm 92 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: sure this still happens at some points, but like, there 93 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: there was kind of an era in writing when it 94 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: was way more common to render thickly all the way 95 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: through the writing someone's accent and dialect. Yeah, like Bram 96 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Stoker did this also in a lot of his work. 97 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: I find it so exhausting to read works that are 98 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: written like that, And somehow, by coincidence, I wound up 99 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: with the two longest passages. 100 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: Of his writing. I did not do that on purpose. Yeah, 101 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: I find it. 102 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: As someone who loves to read and has always been 103 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: a really good reader, I find it tiring to try 104 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: to get through it. It's tricky differently than when I 105 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: am reading you know, historical documents that have non standard 106 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: today spellings, or things that were printed at a time 107 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: when they the long s's that looks like f's were 108 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: in use. Like, that's a little bit different way of 109 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: brain power needing to be put toward it than the 110 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: invented spellings and phonetic renderings of things that are part 111 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: of this. 112 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 113 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, Charles Brown yep, which makes me go, are 114 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: you the it's Charlie Brown named for you? I don't 115 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: look it up. 116 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. 117 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: It is funny. The one thing that I find kind 118 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: of hilarious is how he was kind of like the 119 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: predecessor by minutes to Mark Twain. They definitely had similar style, 120 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's just because they were 121 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: dressing in the manner of the day, or if it's 122 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: because Twain kind of modeled himself on Artemis Ward Charles Brown. 123 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, but it's interesting. 124 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of our episodes this week was about Franksgiving. O. Yes, 125 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: it was Thanksgiving a week earlier. I have so many 126 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: on this one. I have a lot of thoughts too. 127 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: As I was doing research on this, I had a 128 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: bunch of things bookmarked, and I I think I've said before, 129 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: like I'll just I'll bookmark broadly and then. 130 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: I will go back to go through stuff. 131 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: And one of the things I had bookmarked as like 132 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: a local news article that was kind of generally about this. 133 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: But this article stated with lots of authority that Thanksgiving 134 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: is always the last Thursday in November, and I was like, nah, 135 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: that is not correct. Something I wanted to put in 136 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: the episode and I just didn't feel like had a 137 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: good place in the rhythm of how things were going 138 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: is that in Oklahoma, there was some debate about which 139 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: day the banks would be closed. The state was observing 140 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving on the thirtieth, but the bank holiday had already 141 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: been established as a twenty third and Attorney General mac 142 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: Williamson issued a legal opinion in this matter that had 143 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: a little poem in it, And the poem went thirty 144 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: dates half September, April, June, and November. All the rest 145 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: have thirty one until we hear from Washington. What are 146 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: some of your thoughts, Holly? While we were recording, I 147 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: just scribbled on my notepad that I keep by my computer, 148 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: sweet baby, Gredo Thanksgiving, get your act together. Here's my thing. 149 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: Two things. One, how much like legislative time was wasted 150 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: on like making the president proclaim it every time? Just 151 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: a lot right, like well just said it and forget it. 152 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: But I think But two, what it really really reminded 153 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: me of as like it was getting into the nitty 154 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: gritty of we're gonna change it to give more space. 155 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's freaking out, But we already printed the things, and 156 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: we're already and we already had the thing, and we're 157 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: doing it this way. We've always done it this way. 158 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: Why do we want to change it? Reminded me of 159 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: anybody that's worked in like a corporate setting or even 160 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: a not corporate setting has had this moment where like 161 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: there's some process or even lack of process that has 162 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: been the standard mode of doing things that has problems. 163 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: But even when somebody presents a solution that will require 164 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: a little transition awkwardness, people are so mad about that 165 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: part that they can't get past it and they fight fight. 166 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been on both sides of that equation 167 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: where I'm like whoa, and also, come on, you guys, 168 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: this is never going to get better if we don't 169 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: have this two. 170 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: Weeks that stink. 171 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what it made me think of, Like 172 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: just if everybody could just chill out for like a minute, Yeah, 173 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: we can make this decision. We know it's going to 174 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: be awkward. I'm a big fan of the let's just 175 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: celebrate it twice if you love the other one so 176 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: much while we figure this out. But I did it 177 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: made me think about that a lot. I was not 178 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: really as focused on, like the time spent doing the proclamations, 179 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: because presidents and governors issue a lot of proclamations about 180 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, and so like that did not 181 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: I didn't even really think about that as a factor 182 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: in all of it. The amount of debating that could 183 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: go into the passage of laws and like whether to 184 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: ask the president to issue a proclamation that did crack 185 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: me up a little bit. Also just I mean I 186 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: said it in the episode, it was really not necessary 187 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: to manufacture a connection to the like the the you know, 188 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: sort of mythical first Thanksgiving, right, because the Thanksgiving holiday 189 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: has always been about, uh, like the identity of the 190 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: United States as a nation, you know, since there started 191 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: to be national proclamations about it. Uh, and very very 192 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: often connections uh to. 193 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: To wars, wars that. 194 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: The you know, the nation and the you know, the 195 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: legislative branch and the executive branch believed were being undertaken 196 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: for just reasons, right, And the idea that like Providence 197 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: was smiling on our war effort because our war effort 198 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: is good, like that underpinned so much of it, uh, 199 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Which that's a whole other can of worms. But like 200 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: we uh, it's probably a little harder for a kindergartener 201 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: to rap their head around then a feel good story 202 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: about sitting down to a big dinner. But like those connections, 203 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: there was plenty of other fuel for elementary school classes 204 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: and whatever that did not involved having children make paper 205 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: headdresses and wear them, for example. I know there are 206 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: still schools that are doing that. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, 207 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: I forgot. What is the thing that somebody coined that 208 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: was about things will inevitably be compared to Hitler. There's 209 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: some term that somebody coined on the internet, some law, somebody. 210 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna google it. This is Godwin's law, which 211 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: is as online discussion grows longer, the probability of a 212 00:13:54,120 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches. One, of course, was 213 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: not coined until apparently nineteen ninety according to this Google 214 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: search that I've just done, so many decades after franksgiving discussion. 215 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, not a new phenomenon, No, not in the least. 216 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: Anyway. 217 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: I also marveled throughout, even though I have read some 218 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: of these documents we referenced at, just how much the 219 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: idea of a separation of church and state was such 220 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: a fib. 221 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is such a fib Yeah. 222 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: One of the things that I read about Washington's proclamations 223 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: specifically was that like Washington's proclamations definitely draw on the 224 00:14:51,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: idea of God and prayer, but without specifying any particular 225 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: religion or denomination or sect within a religion, but still 226 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: with the presumption that everyone has like a commonality to 227 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: their religious belief that involves. 228 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: God in prayer. Right. 229 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, the idea that the like that the first 230 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: presidents or the so called founders were not really focused 231 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: on God does not hold up in this episode. 232 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 233 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: Anyway, I hope if folks are preparing for their own 234 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving meal, I hope those preparations are going well, I know, 235 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: and stuff can start really early with making sure you 236 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: can find the right potatoes for your potato casserole. 237 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: Or whether they're going to be sold out. 238 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: Of Cranberry's at the grocery store, so you know, whatever 239 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: you're working on with that in my and I hope 240 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: it's all going really well. 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