Speaker 1: I want to get to mister Scottie Pippen himself, the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls legend who won six championships with Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: That Scottie Pippen, well, he's had a lot to say
Speaker 1: about his former teammate recently, and it hasn't been that flattering.
Speaker 2: Take a listen.
Speaker 3: It's not even worth talking about the two of them.
Speaker 3: When you ask who's better Lebron or Michael, you can't
Speaker 3: ask me who's the goat between Lebron and Michael. Neither
Speaker 3: one of them are goats. They both won differently. You
Speaker 3: can't put them at the top of the pinnacle. Magic Johnson,
Speaker 3: to me, is a bigger goat than anybody because of
Speaker 3: how he laid, how he brought a whole team. How
Speaker 3: when the greatest scorer in the game, karm was not
Speaker 3: there in him as a rookie center steps in and
Speaker 3: plays a position that no one even knew he could play.
Speaker 3: That's transcending what you can do as a player.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be nice, I really really am, But
Speaker 1: what Scotty Pippery just said was some straight bullshit, especially
Speaker 1: coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 2: Before I get into it. However, that sound bite that
Speaker 2: y'all just.
Speaker 1: Saw courtesy of Patrick Bett David's podcast, The PbD Podcast,
Speaker 1: which I've been on as a guest. He had Scottie
Speaker 1: Pippen on as a guest, did a great job interviewing him.
Speaker 1: By the way, that sound bite raised a few eyebrows.
Speaker 1: And now other NBA players are coming to Michael Jordan's defense.
Speaker 1: Most recently was Carmelo Anthony on his podcast seven PM
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn this past Friday. Check out what Carmelo Anthony
Speaker 1: had to say.
Speaker 4: And you can't do this every time, though, Scotty, like
Speaker 4: you done been in the bunker with MJ. You don't
Speaker 4: been in the trenches with this guy. And you signed
Speaker 4: up for the Breakfast Club for six years like you
Speaker 4: was part of that. Don't take that away from the
Speaker 4: guard now after all of these years, where you whatever
Speaker 4: feelings you feel about him, like that is who it is,
Speaker 4: that's that's that's MJ.
Speaker 2: Like you know what time it is with that as
Speaker 2: far as lebron goes, lead that man alone.
Speaker 4: Later alone, Scottie like pay how muche to magic but
Speaker 4: lead them just the ghosts of our league, man, those
Speaker 4: are the three whatever issues you had with Broun, like
Speaker 4: lead that ship alone, Scotty like nobody's Bron ain't even
Speaker 4: thinking about you, like no mind even like matter of fact, Broun,
Speaker 4: this is a situation where Bron need to see Scotty.
Speaker 2: Like nothing square.
Speaker 4: But we got Now you're talking about man conversations to.
Speaker 2: Me, conversation like what the is going on? You can't
Speaker 2: keep MJ's a goat this day and my Lebron is
Speaker 2: the go better than MJ this day? All six years later?
Speaker 2: You know what, both of them matter. Magic been the goal.
Speaker 1: See, that's why Melo's my man, because Melo's a real
Speaker 1: one and he's honest. Scotty is not that he's dishonest,
Speaker 1: is that he's bitter. Now, let me be very very clear,
Speaker 1: I go off the reservation per se when you say
Speaker 1: you're hating on somebody just because you don't believe they're
Speaker 1: the go Scotty Pippen's opinion. He's a six time champion.
Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest players in NBA history. He's
Speaker 1: a top seventy five player of all time, one of
Speaker 1: the elite defensive players the game of basketball has ever seen.
Speaker 1: You can never take that away from him. Okay, but
Speaker 1: the issue with Scotty Pippen, in his opinion is that
Speaker 1: it has waffled, it has waved, and Melo was absolutely
Speaker 1: right to point that shit out. The fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is, when you look at Scotty Pippen years ago.
Speaker 2: MJ was the got.
Speaker 1: He's a national TV on NBA to death, if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly on ESPN. Sit up there talking about Lebron.
Speaker 1: It great, but he won THEMJ then you get pissed
Speaker 1: off of MJ. But Lebron is the goat. Naw, Now
Speaker 1: it ain't even Lebron.
Speaker 2: Its magic.
Speaker 1: Magis's five time champion university recognized the greatest point guard
Speaker 1: in the history of basketball and was a winner because
Speaker 1: the nine NBA finals that dominated the eighties, and he
Speaker 1: would showed Tom and he was a facilitator and he
Speaker 1: was all of that. That's fun, even magic and Bird
Speaker 1: said Michael Jordan told them to their face, it's a
Speaker 1: new sheriff in tam We all know what Tom it
Speaker 1: is and what makes it so sacrilegious, which is what
Speaker 1: Mellow pointed out. That's to catch you in the bunker
Speaker 1: with See, we not talking about the reel when it
Speaker 1: comes to Scotty Pippen and all of this. We not
Speaker 1: talking about the reel. You won six championships with them,
Speaker 1: Remember he retired after the first to repeat. Remember how
Speaker 1: you couldn't get it done as a member of the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls courtesy in part of the Hugh Hollands call
Speaker 1: against you on the Hubert Davids jump side of Madison's
Speaker 1: square garden. I get that bop, but she still don't
Speaker 1: get it done. And then the very next year, Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan comes back. Y'all get bounced out in the second
Speaker 1: rounds of Orlando Magic with Nick Anderson and those boys.
Speaker 1: But prior to that, you were kicking up your sneaker
Speaker 1: showing the Jordan emblem on the bottom, begging them to
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 2: But you asking back for that.
Speaker 1: It was your team, same team, by the way, that
Speaker 1: you got pissed that and deserted because Phil Jackson called
Speaker 1: the final shot for Tony Kokoch.
Speaker 2: Remember that.
Speaker 1: You're talking about Jordan this way. Now you throw on
Speaker 1: Lebron and you're saying, don't nothing, no matter but magic.
Speaker 1: Could it be that you're bringing up magic because Magic
Speaker 1: was a facilitator and you thought yourself as a facilitator.
Speaker 1: We wasn't a facilitator even though you played point forward,
Speaker 1: you wasn't driving in the lane and dishing it out
Speaker 1: like Magic did. You were helped running a triangle and
Speaker 1: you were an elite defender, but you wanted to quit,
Speaker 1: to quit the central what the typical point guard that
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson was, so you didn't mirrory his game either.
Speaker 1: Who's it gonna be next, Scotty? And why is it
Speaker 1: gonna be somebody else? Could it be because you're better?
Speaker 1: Could it be because of the last dance and you're
Speaker 1: still salty about that? Could it be because when it
Speaker 1: was time for you to get paid, even though Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan had advised you not to take the money because
Speaker 1: it was a bad contract, you didn't listen to him
Speaker 1: and then ended up being bitter and trying to hold
Speaker 1: out and all of this other stuff. Could it be
Speaker 1: because when Michael Jordan retired and you win and you
Speaker 1: took your talents to Portland that you couldn't closed the
Speaker 1: deal and Shaq and Kobe put you up out of
Speaker 1: there in the game seven. All of that happened, but
Speaker 1: you talking, damn. I appreciate Carmelo Anthony calling it out
Speaker 1: like that. He didn't get as specific as I did.
Speaker 1: But the specifics that I threw out there is exactly
Speaker 1: what Carmelo was talking about. Lebron don't need to step
Speaker 1: to him like what's this, what's this?
Speaker 2: What's this?
Speaker 1: All he's saying is that neither one of them is
Speaker 1: to go to me, but they Lebron's to go to
Speaker 1: this generation.
Speaker 2: He just ain't the goat over mj It is what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: My nephew, Josh wanted to be in on this segment
Speaker 1: two because you had a lot to say about it
Speaker 1: off the air, So go ahead and tell an audience
Speaker 1: what you have to say about it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm on Scotty's side in a way what you're me.
Speaker 2: And the reason.
Speaker 5: Why is because I got two questions for you, because
Speaker 5: you keep bringing up what happened when Michael Jordan retired.
Speaker 5: If Scotty Pittman retired at that same time and Michael
Speaker 5: Jordan was playing with Steve Kerr Tony Cook coaching them,
Speaker 5: would they have won a champion?
Speaker 1: Wrong question? The right question is two parts. Number one,
Speaker 1: would Michael Jordan have quit on his team and refused
Speaker 1: to enter re enter a game because Phil Jackson caught
Speaker 1: the final shot for somebody else with then to answer that.
Speaker 5: Question, would Phil Jackson call the shot for somebody else
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan exactly?
Speaker 1: That's my point.
Speaker 2: No, he wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: He would have let Jordan decided, you know why, because
Speaker 1: Jordan was a better offensive player than Scott so Jordan
Speaker 1: would have been in a position to make a better decision.
Speaker 1: That's how John Paxton hit a game, win a shot
Speaker 1: to win a championship. That's how Steve Kerr hit a game,
Speaker 1: win a shot to win a championship. What Scotty would do, naturally,
Speaker 1: Jordan would draw attention and create an opportunity for somebody
Speaker 1: else because his greatness offensively was so supreme that you
Speaker 1: expected him to take the last shot so he could
Speaker 1: defer to somebody else to make sure they had a
Speaker 1: wide open shot. Nobody was keening on Scotty Pepper like
Speaker 1: that because Scotty Prippan didn't have that kind.
Speaker 2: Of offensive repertoire.
Speaker 1: So that's number one.
Speaker 5: When Jordan was gone and it was Scotty Pippen and
Speaker 5: Tony Kugo, you're gonna choose Tony Kugo's to take the
Speaker 5: last yoar.
Speaker 2: The last shot.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're not saying that. Scottie Pippen wasn't a better
Speaker 1: all around player Tony, but Tony kuk Coach was a
Speaker 1: better shooter.
Speaker 2: That's it, just shooter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a better offensive play.
Speaker 1: But a last shot is a last shot. And so
Speaker 1: if they're keying on you, if they're keying on you,
Speaker 1: Tony kok Coach is a guy that you trust to
Speaker 1: make the shot. Scotty Pippy could make a play. Tony
Speaker 1: Kukoch could make a shot. Don't act like you know basketball.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not calling the play.
Speaker 5: Holyrom Scotty, would you would you have refuse to re
Speaker 5: enter the game?
Speaker 2: Is it my team or not? Would you have refused? Did?
Speaker 2: Shut the hell up?
Speaker 5: That's not the point.
Speaker 2: That's the point. You didn't answer the chot answer.
Speaker 5: The question was the question, Josh, would they have one
Speaker 5: if Scotty Pippen retired.
Speaker 1: Under the same conditions?
Speaker 2: Listen to me, Listen to me good. If the Bulls were.
Speaker 1: In the same position that Scotty Pippen was, to remember,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't that series against the Knicks. They probably end
Speaker 1: up going to the finals, and then they would have
Speaker 1: played Houston. Do I believe that the Chicago Bulls could
Speaker 1: have beat the Houston Rockets.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Now again, I'm telling you they're not a lesser version
Speaker 1: of themselves if Jordan is there instead of Pipping. That's
Speaker 1: my point to you. Whether they win or lose, they're
Speaker 1: not a lesser version. The Chicago Bulls are not a
Speaker 1: lesser version with Jordan than they were with Pipping.
Speaker 2: That ain't happening.
Speaker 1: Nobody would disagree with me on that one.
Speaker 2: That would not happen.
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan on the Bulls in the playoffs record is
Speaker 5: worse than Scottie Pippen's Bulls record without Jordan.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Scottie Pippen only had a couple of playoff
Speaker 1: series without Jordan. That Jordan and Scottie Pippen played for
Speaker 1: since the eighties with each other. So the six championship
Speaker 1: hold they played like eight nine years together. Scottie Pippen
Speaker 1: played one year without Jordan. So you can't compare the number.
Speaker 1: Stop this move on this. Okay, you sound all right?
Speaker 1: That's number one. What was the other part that you
Speaker 1: was gonna say about Scottie Pippen? You don't even remember.
Speaker 2: Let me get my points though, I can't. This is
Speaker 2: my segment.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, anything else you want to say about
Speaker 1: Scotty Pippen because you sound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5: I feel like between me and you, you're the Michael
Speaker 5: Jordan of our situation. It's cool to be Scottie Pippens sometimes.
Speaker 5: So I got this merch and MS speaturing me and
Speaker 5: you on it.
Speaker 2: Church or Barrow.
Speaker 5: That's me because that was me holding That's when Michael Jordan,
Speaker 5: you know, had the flu or whatever Steven Aggas six
Speaker 5: sometime and I ended up carrying him, so I ended
Speaker 5: up I ended up putting that on a on the shirt,
Speaker 5: so I got one for you, extra lodge.
Speaker 2: Good Bye Murder. I see y'all, I see y'all.