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Speaker 2: The plant called and said, if you don't come in tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: This is the last word, the off season Home of

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, good evening, TGIF, Happy weekend, Happy Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for getting it going here with us on the

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Speaker 2: last word. It's the Home of the Colts ninety three

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Speaker 2: No Jeffrey Gorman tonight, as you heard in the imaging

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Speaker 2: promo or the open right there, Casey Vallee instead is

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Speaker 2: filling in tonight talking to some Colts football showcase. What's happening?

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Speaker 2: Not a whole lot?

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Speaker 1: Mad.

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Speaker 3: Do we know where Jeffrey is? Is it just parts unknown?

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey I think is out on the West Coast. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he's in California today.

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Speaker 3: He's a busy man.

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Speaker 2: He's always all over the place. Trying to set a

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Speaker 2: pin on the Google map for Jeffrey Gorman is one

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Speaker 2: of the most challenging things one man can do. He

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Speaker 2: is all over the place. The frequent flyer miles for

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Gorman are plentiful. Let's just put it that way.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of plentiful, the off season workout program for the

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot to get into tonight. As always,

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Speaker 2: making every moment more and coming up on tonight's show,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna recap the Colts veteran mini camp that was

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Speaker 2: gonna recap the spring workouts and discuss his thoughts on

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Speaker 3: I think, honestly, what stood out to me was the

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of what I took from it. Just

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like Anthony Richardson spent most of his

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Speaker 2: So, how do you think the Colts will initially handle

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Speaker 3: No, And I think he's addressed that, so is Gardner

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back tonight last words the offseason radio home

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Speaker 2: What about the camaraderie? What about the bonds this team

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a huge, huge part of this process

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Speaker 2: A big part of your makeup is accountability. You hold

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Speaker 4: I think it's been good. You know, I think accountability,

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Speaker 4: So just staying accountable in the building outside the building,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And then you know, you establish your new routines

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Speaker 2: All right, With the offense, you look at it, Gardner

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, in less couple of things, the rookie class.

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Speaker 2: Be good for us, all right, I know you got

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Speaker 2: How much are you looking forward to your first camp?

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Speaker 4: I can't wait. I'm excited, you know obviously, for training

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Speaker 4: camp is a fun time. I really do enjoy training

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Speaker 2: Indeed, coach, thanks always for your time. Good luck you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. That's Shane Steichen. That's from earlier this week

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Speaker 2: Proud sports Pook partner of the Indianapolis Colts, Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 2: Casey Valley. Tonight, Jeffrey Gorman is out. He'll be back

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Speaker 2: next week. Last word, of course, also brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Meyer, the official Supercenter of the Indianapolis Colts, proud

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Speaker 2: We tease the running backs and the running games across

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Speaker 2: the NFL. It is appropriate to get into this because

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, as you know, Casey led the NFL and

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Speaker 2: rushing not that long ago in twenty twenty one with

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Speaker 2: a franchise record eighteen hundred yards and racked up a

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Speaker 2: league best seventy one yards from scrimmage and twenty total touchdowns. However,

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Speaker 2: the Colts missed the playoffs that season. Casey, I want

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Speaker 2: to know, only three rushing champions have ever appeared in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl the year they led the league in rushing.

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Speaker 2: Who are they?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna think EMMITTT.

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Speaker 2: Smith is one, yes, Sting ding ding Go with the

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Speaker 2: obvious there, Okay, the other two are gonna be a

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Speaker 2: little bit more obscure, tough to come up with. Think

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Speaker 2: mid two thousands and then late nineties.

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Speaker 5: Mid two thousands, Seattle in the mid two thousand as

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Speaker 5: Sean Alexander, Yes, okay, Paul good Poll and then John

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Speaker 5: Elway in the late nineties.

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Speaker 2: Think about who his running back was back Thenrell Davis,

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Speaker 2: Terrell Davis. Yes, only three guys have ever led the

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Speaker 2: NFL and rushing and then a heared in the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl the year they were the top dog. So that

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Speaker 2: is appropriate, by the way. That's the Forum credit Union

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Speaker 2: question of the week. Visit the Forum credit Union section

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Speaker 2: regarding the Colts Forum credit Union helping members live their

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Speaker 2: financial dreams. That's the backdrop. Because you've got star running

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Speaker 2: backs at crossroads across the NFL right now. You've got

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs his contract situation with the franchise tag he

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Speaker 2: has not signed. That same thing with Saquon Barkley, he

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Speaker 2: hasn't signed his franchise tag. You've got Dalvin Cook being released,

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Speaker 2: You've got Ezekiel Elliott being released, and then you've got

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. He's heading into his last year of his

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Speaker 2: rookie contract. The question is do you think they're gonna win?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they're gonna get what they think they deserve.

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Speaker 3: I think it's hard. I mean I think I think

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Speaker 3: it's a really good topic. I'm kind of tipping my

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Speaker 3: hat at all these running backs because they bring up

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Speaker 3: really good things.

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Speaker 2: But we just got done talking about the elite running

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Speaker 2: backs rarely play in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Right, There's that the devaluing of the position because you

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Speaker 3: see teams like Philadelphia last year and you think about

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Speaker 3: that playoff run. It was guys like Kenneth Gainwell, Boston Scott.

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Speaker 3: They're not your marquee names. And this is a team

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Speaker 3: that was playing in the Super Bowl. Isaac Pacheco, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he was a seventh round pick, So you

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Speaker 3: think about it that way. Those are the two teams

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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. So it's almost like there's conflicting

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Speaker 3: things all over because you look at a guy like

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey and what he does for the forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers and what he did for Carolina. He's such a

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Speaker 3: dynamic weapon. Dalvin Cook. We saw it when the Colts

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Speaker 3: played in Minnesota. He's a guy that is a game changer.

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to that financial thing, that's where

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Speaker 3: it really gets tough. So ultimately, I don't think they win.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, there's so many running backs that infiltrate

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Speaker 2: the NFL on a year to year basis, coming from

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Speaker 2: the draft an undrafted free agency. I mean, like you said,

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Speaker 2: just last year, Kenneth Walker in round two, twelve hundred yards,

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Speaker 2: Damian Pearson round four was a one thing yard guy

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Speaker 2: for the Houston Texans. You talked about Isaiah Pacheco. And

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Speaker 2: these guys are not going to cost teams ten to

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Speaker 2: fourteen million dollars a year because they're on rookie contracts.

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Speaker 2: So I think some teams say to themselves that maybe

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Speaker 2: we can go get eighty five to ninety percent of

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Speaker 2: a Dalvin Cook or an Ezekiel Elliott or a Josh

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Speaker 2: Jacobs and pay them significantly less money on rookie contracts.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the crossroads that some of these guys

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Speaker 2: are at now as it relates to the Colts and

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. And we've got the rest of the summer

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Speaker 2: to get into this. I know we're kind of crunched

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Speaker 2: for time. But to me, he's in the same waters,

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Speaker 2: but he's in a different boat all by himself, driving

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Speaker 2: that boat faster than a lot of these other guys,

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Speaker 2: because I think Jonathan Taylor is that talented, that dynamic

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Speaker 2: and can change the game more so than some of

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Speaker 2: these other guys because of his athleticism and his speed

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Speaker 2: and his propensity to make big runs, to turn a

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what we're all looking at is the

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Speaker 3: evolution of Anthony Richardson. I think a big proponent behind

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Speaker 3: that is what Jonathan Taylor can do for him, and

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Speaker 3: that's where that is. I completely agree that there's exceptions

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Speaker 3: to the rule, and I think JT is in that and.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how it all plays out. With the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 2: We're with you every Friday night until training camp. The

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Speaker 2: last word here with Casey Valier. I'm Matt Taylor. Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: Gorman is back next week. We're up against it, though,

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Speaker 2: we gotta run. ESPN Radio is coming up next, and

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Speaker 2: we'll have more on the Colts all summer and again

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Speaker 2: next Friday as we get in the last word here

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Speaker 2: in the Home of the Colts ninety three to five

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Speaker 2: and one oh seven five The fan have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Man walks down the street. It's a stream of a

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Speaker 2: strange world. Maybe it's the third maybe it's his.

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Speaker 3: First time round.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't speak lads.

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Speaker 1: She holds no currency.

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Speaker 3: He is a farm.

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Speaker 2: He is surround so cattle in the marketplace scating