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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, sixteen, Episode

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Speaker 1: three of the Days. It's a production of iHeart Radio,

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Speaker 1: and it's a podcast where we take a deep avenue America.

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Speaker 2: I'm having.

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Speaker 1: This is the second stutter that I've had already. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: December sixth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that means uh, yes, It's National Gaspacho Day, It's

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Speaker 2: Saint Nicholas Day, It's National Day of Remembrance my lips

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Speaker 2: on Violence Against Women Day. It's National miners like the

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Speaker 2: people who mind Shit Day, h nash shout out the

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Speaker 2: pond brokers because it's your day also, and also fucking

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Speaker 2: Mitten Tree Day. I don't know what Midton Tree Day is,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. I guess you collect mittens and

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Speaker 2: you hang them on the Christmas tree and then hand

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Speaker 2: them out to those and need I'd imagine the people

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Speaker 2: that need them would probably want them immediately rather than

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Speaker 2: being like, let me adorn my tree with these mittens.

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Speaker 2: Someone would need. But here we are Mitten Day, and aren't.

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Speaker 1: The pombro the pawn Stars really the modern day miners

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Speaker 1: when you think about it.

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Speaker 2: For gold story, Yeah, whatever, it is they do it.

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Speaker 1: My name's Jack O'Brien aka man, you sure look like

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Speaker 1: cat not Joe. My friend left here a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Where George tooth come from? Where did he go? Tooth

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Speaker 1: transform him to cat? And I Joe, that's courtesy.

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Speaker 2: And no clue to come from?

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Speaker 1: Where that tooth come from? Man? Where talking about the

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Speaker 1: transformative nature we've talked about wig acting before the tooth acting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tooth acting acting, tooth acting.

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Speaker 1: Tooth acting truly amazing. Tooth acting happening in a Killer

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Speaker 1: of the Flower Moon and just made me realize that

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Speaker 1: tooth acting from the very time for the first time

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Speaker 1: Tooth up. Through Leonardo DiCaprio's performance and Killers of the

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Speaker 1: Flower Moon, it always gets It fools me every single time, like, wait,

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Speaker 1: that's not Leonna, that guy is ugly man, Leonardo DiCaprio.

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Speaker 2: That's not my three What you call it gompers or.

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Speaker 1: Some gumpers I think, but gompers might be better. It's

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Speaker 1: an impression of poetic license. I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: as always by my co host mister.

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Speaker 2: Miles Grat Miles Gray Gay. Those are dinosaurs they're huge balls.

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Speaker 2: Those are dinosaurs. They're huge balls. Those are dinosaurs. They're

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Speaker 2: huge balls. That's why they're so big. Yes, they're dino balls.

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Speaker 2: Or they're just a guy's balls. Actually that's what it

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Speaker 2: should be. But shout out to Pato sand on the

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Speaker 2: discard who gave me that they might be giants rework because.

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Speaker 1: They are giant. They might be giants balls is what

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Speaker 1: they thought they.

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Speaker 2: I think they did in a parenthetical. Yes, yes, many jokes.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third

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Speaker 1: seat by one of our favorite guests here on the

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Speaker 1: Daily Seite. Guys. Uh you know him from the podcast

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Speaker 1: This Day in Esoteric Political History in the past. You

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Speaker 1: know good sport from Ted and Pushkin thirty for thirty

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Speaker 1: for ESPN, the five thirty eight politics podcast Going where

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Speaker 1: way back, But that's where I first heard him. He's

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Speaker 1: the lead producer of The Puzzler, a very fun puzzle podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's building a puzzle empire. It's Jody Ever got out.

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Speaker 3: It is very nice to be here, though I will

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Speaker 3: say I would very happily just let you do intros

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Speaker 3: and never actually get folded into the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Keep going everyone. We should we could try. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's it's not not too far off that we have

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Speaker 3: You know, I was entering like a nice little fuch

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Speaker 3: state here, just watching you guys do your thing, and.

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Speaker 1: That is what we aim for, the fugue states, where

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Speaker 1: you lose all track of your past and future and

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Speaker 1: you're just like, hey, what.

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Speaker 3: A couple of notes. Thank you for clarifying that it

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Speaker 3: was my nerves, not miners. Yeah, okay, a weird, very

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Speaker 3: weird holiday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also I'm realizing as you introduced me there, that

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Speaker 3: making a show called the Puzzle podcast is just really

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Speaker 2: Called the puzzle podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's called the puzzle, It's called the puzzler. But then uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, you just say the variations of the word

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Speaker 3: puzzle a lot, and then you say podcast a lot too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pop puzzler, pop that puzzler.

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Speaker 3: Listeners love this stuff, by the way they do.

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Speaker 1: They're like, more nonsense, please just don't give me content. Well, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: we will give you content.

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Speaker 2: It's art, Jody. We're going to get to know you

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Speaker 2: a little bit better in no moment.

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Speaker 1: First, we're going to tell our listeners. A couple of

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Speaker 1: things that we're talking about. ACAB does include COP twenty

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Speaker 2: Just being like, yeah, climate change for sure. So y'all

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Speaker 1: Some oil deals or what Right, So we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: just broad strokes. What's going on over there. It leaves

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Speaker 1: something to be desired. Well, we'll talk about what that thing?

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Speaker 1: What that something is? George Santos on cameo, mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: He has taken a page from Rudy Giuliani's poorly photo

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about people's living situations. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about bass pro shops. You know, it's basically

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Speaker 1: you may know them as your local gun museum, but

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Speaker 1: others know them as bass pro shops. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about that. Why those stores that you see

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Speaker 1: every once in a while. Why those are taxpayer funded?

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Speaker 1: All that plenty more. But first, Jody we do like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guest, what is something from your search history.

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Speaker 3: I will just present to you the actual last thing

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Speaker 2: Tea?

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Speaker 3: Do you know the tea? Constant comment?

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Speaker 3: It's this like it's a tea blend. It's kind of

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Speaker 3: And it's a fantastic name, constant comment, because it sounds normal,

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Speaker 2: Whatever it means.

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Speaker 1: Whoever created was an SEO master, so it probably stuttled

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, who created it? You asked, Well, Rudy Campbell Bigelow.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen forty five, she created a constant comment tea.

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Speaker 3: She was unhappy with a variety of teas on the market,

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Speaker 3: The new flavor was so popular among her friends that

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Speaker 3: it received quote constant comments, therefore giving the tea its name.

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Speaker 3: I like, great backstory, great tea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like just sort of like say, cleverness

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Speaker 2: of the naming. It reminds of like how they named weed.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, this one, dude, it's like constant giggles

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Speaker 2: here of indicansativa. Yeah, it's so funny that you mentioned this.

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Speaker 2: I randomly just came across like on like on Twitter

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Speaker 3: T you're about to turn forty, and they just they can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they know, they know, And I'm like, they've got

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Speaker 2: But I just yeah, So it's it's funny that now

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Speaker 2: I'm having the big lot message we reinforced in multiple ways. Now, Yeah, if.

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Speaker 3: You have room in some future episode or even just

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Speaker 3: when we're just chatting, not on a podcast. One of

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Speaker 1: The idea that tea's where the original weed strain is

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Speaker 1: interesting because then they used to call weed tea, Like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, Jody, what's something you think is overrated?

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Speaker 3: Can I combine my overrated and underrated and and ask

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Speaker 3: other folks. But Tyrese Haliburton, where is he on that

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Speaker 2: Based still underrated?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's injured, like his rating is undulating?

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Speaker 3: Aesthetically, something about his game is a little jankie to me. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: and you see him dunk from like a place you've

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Speaker 2: Or just want to cover more ground in two steps

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Speaker 3: I love this game, Adam Silver. The check is in

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Speaker 2: We're back.

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Speaker 1: We're back, baby, And so is the COP Conference. We're

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Speaker 1: at COP twenty eight. Yeah, it's the initial headlines. I

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Speaker 3: in the mid nineties into the early two thousands were

435
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 3: basically the exact same, right. Cop Cop two right in Geneva,

436
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: Switzerland was basically about do we want uniform policies or

437
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Speaker 3: do we want flexibility? Do we want legally binding mid

438
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Speaker 3: term targets or do we want larger principles upon which

439
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Speaker 3: we will all adhere.

440
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Speaker 2: You know.

441
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Speaker 3: Cop three was the big Kyoto Protocol one. Cop four

442
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: was like we need we are pledging for a two

443
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 3: year plan of action, right, right, you know, and that's

444
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Speaker 3: like us, you know, two year plan of action, two

445
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Speaker 3: year plan of action. I mean, and then you know,

446
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: you look at like COP six seven eight, this question

447
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 3: of financial assistance for developing countries and this question of

448
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 3: kind of how to you know, developing countries need to

449
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Speaker 3: use carbon in order to advance their economic principles, but

450
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Speaker 3: also you know they're going to be affected. Back like

451
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Speaker 3: that is just like year after year after year after year,

452
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Speaker 3: it's just comes up, people say some things, it doesn't

453
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Speaker 3: get fully results. So it is kind of remarkable.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't until last year where they're like,

455
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Speaker 2: all right, I guess we can put some money together

456
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Speaker 2: for these other right, And so.

457
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think it's right, and it

458
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 3: does feel like in this first the fact that got

459
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Speaker 3: accomplished on the first day of the conference did the

460
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Speaker 3: sort of surprise some climate activists and you know probably

461
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: also then like let everyone at the conference be like, well,

462
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Speaker 3: we did a good thing on day one, so we

463
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Speaker 3: can just you know, lobby and party for the rest

464
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Speaker 3: of it. But can I can I ask a sort

465
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Speaker 3: of bigger picture question of the two of you for

466
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Speaker 3: something I've been thinking about with climate activism and sort

467
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Speaker 3: of you know what needs to get done, which is

468
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Speaker 3: I think we've moved so far past the point where

469
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Speaker 3: like a single solution or even like a single kind

470
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Speaker 3: of group like, oh, the people are going to get

471
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Speaker 3: together in Kyoto at COP three and kind of like

472
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Speaker 3: governments are going to figure this out. We've moved so

473
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Speaker 3: far past that idea of like a couple central answers

474
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Speaker 3: to this that weirdly it feels like now we're in

475
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Speaker 3: a well, we might as well try everything moment, right,

476
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Speaker 3: And I think talking to folks you know, who are

477
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Speaker 3: active in climate change circles, like that is where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Right.

479
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Speaker 3: It's like no one solution, no one political process, no

480
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: one country is going to solve this. We just kind

481
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: of have to try everything. And I weirdly find a

482
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Speaker 3: little solace in that in that, like the guardrails, the

483
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: abdication of responsibility is sort of off for most people,

484
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Speaker 3: and it's just kind of like, well, we got to

485
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Speaker 3: try everything, and so you know, maybe this is just

486
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Speaker 3: maybe this is a sort of me giving up in

487
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Speaker 3: some way. But I'm like, if cop accomplishes a you know,

488
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Speaker 3: two percent of something, great because over here, someone's going

489
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Speaker 3: to accomplish two percent over here, and that's the only

490
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Speaker 3: way this is going to happen. Is just like a

491
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Speaker 3: million different things nudging progress a little bit forward, as

492
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Speaker 3: opposed to what we were doing for I think for

493
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Speaker 3: a long time, which was sort of saying like, well,

494
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Speaker 3: world leaders need to get together and get their act together.

495
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Speaker 3: And I think that you know, idea is long gone.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Like it kind of the thing kind of

497
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Speaker 2: reminds me of like those like scenes and like a

498
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Speaker 2: like a superhero comedy film where someone's trying to get

499
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Speaker 2: away in a car and the superheroes just lifting the

500
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Speaker 2: car from the back so the wheels can't move right,

501
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Speaker 2: and like that's what this feels like. The cars like

502
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Speaker 2: it could go forward if these assholes let them let

503
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Speaker 2: go and let it move forward. And then so we

504
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: get these little incremental changes that like are absolutely heartening.

505
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Speaker 2: I think it's just and then but looking at the

506
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Speaker 2: totality of it, it's like, God, there's still so much

507
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Speaker 2: energy and investment to basically offset whatever gains there are

508
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Speaker 2: to continue like the profitability of the extraction. But I think,

509
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: like to your point, it is better to think of

510
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: like that there are many ways to potentially achieve this,

511
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Speaker 2: whether it's through like how fucking like the dairy industry

512
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Speaker 2: is working, or agriculture these other things, and if many

513
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Speaker 2: of these things can come together that there we may

514
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Speaker 2: find a way here. But the biggest thing is it's

515
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Speaker 2: it's these nations. It's these state actors who are really

516
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Speaker 2: have a lot of control over like the sheer volume

517
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Speaker 2: of emissions. And when you know that, like they're like, hey,

518
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Speaker 2: we're bringing our lobbyists to to COP twenty eight to

519
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Speaker 2: represent our gas industries. Like just like like how serious

520
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Speaker 2: are we? So I'm I'm less nihilistic and maybe I'm

521
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Speaker 2: just more de frustrated. Yes, that's that's kind of where

522
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Speaker 2: I'm at.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I'm curious when in looking back at

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Speaker 1: the past cops, do you, like, would your sense be

525
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Speaker 1: if there was some way to quantify like the actual

526
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Speaker 1: beneficial ideas or you know, progress that came from each

527
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Speaker 1: one of them. Like, how do you think if we

528
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Speaker 1: were to rank the top twenty eight cops? Okay, top

529
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Speaker 1: twenty eight?

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Speaker 2: How long do you have copy?

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Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering because it feels like putting a

532
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Speaker 1: meeting together, a meeting of the minds with this as

533
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Speaker 1: a as the central goal is a good idea in theory.

534
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Speaker 1: Once it becomes a place for various companies to strategize,

535
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Speaker 1: like in the presence of people talking about things that

536
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Speaker 1: are specifically meant to hem them in Like then it

537
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: almost becomes like you're building an institutional means for just

538
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: skirting all the laws and all of the things that

539
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: we are trying to do. Because yeah, I totally agree,

540
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Speaker 1: Like it's not going to be one silver bullet, it's

541
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of things. But those all

542
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 1: of those things are going to be avoided with precision

543
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: and legal you know, just millions of hours of legal

544
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: arguments and contracts and things like that put in by

545
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: these companies because that's what they do. Like sending companies

546
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: that are focused only on profit for the most part,

547
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: like focused only on profit to be the solution to

548
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Speaker 1: climate change. It just seems so it seems not like

549
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, well we might as well try everything and

550
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: more like this is actively doing harm, Like it's going

551
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Speaker 1: to be the thing that will allow us to continue

552
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: down the road that we've been going down. Yeah, is

553
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Speaker 1: my concern.

554
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that, it's like that that quote that

555
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: Homer says and like about beer, except it's like fossil

556
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: fuels the cause of and solution to all life's problems.

557
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: You're like, how because there's so many gas on it. Well,

558
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean that is a huge thing. Like you hear

559
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: the people how the lobbyists are speaking about the industries

560
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: that the industry they represent, and they're like, we have

561
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Speaker 2: to do this in a humane way, like and it's

562
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: really talking about humane to their company's bottom line. But

563
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: they're but they couch it in this thing, this argument

564
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: of like, well, we're gonna need fossil fuels to help

565
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: these other economies get online to get to that point.

566
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: But really, and I think that's what makes it really

567
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: difficult is because there it's easy to do this sort

568
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: of double speak and then from that extract like a

569
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: good headline if you are in the more greenwashing sector

570
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 2: of this conference, or you can extract a good headline

571
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: if you're there to protect the investments or whatever. So

572
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: it is just kind of wild though, too, because we're

573
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: in this like liminal base where like they're rich and powerful,

574
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: are still doing their old school shit, like you know,

575
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: like just self dealing in full view of the public,

576
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: but because they were used to like a public that

577
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: was just uninformed or apathetic, and now people are like

578
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: what the fuck hold on, who's running the conference? How

579
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: many lobbyists?

580
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: And they're like, what the what's Well, it's a reality

581
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: check where I think, you know, over the last year

582
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: or two in the US, you know, I think you

583
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: could probably tell yourself a story that like, oh, you know,

584
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: the sort of capitalistic market incentives and the energy and

585
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: the climate change have kind of moved a little more

586
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: in parallel and are maybe working a little more in

587
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: sync right over the last year. And I think, you know,

588
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: for sure, the Biden's bill has a big part of that,

589
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: and that was the sort of calculus there, and then

590
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: you just you know, to your point, well as you

591
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: get this like wake up call where it's just like

592
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: a Katari assaultan who's like, what the fuck are you

593
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: talking about? I'm an oil guy, Like, let's let's do it.

594
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I brought the guess what, I just brought the

595
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: entire global oil industry to my back yard. And then

596
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: we can kind of like side plan stuff based on

597
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: whatever else is going on. So yeah, it's it's uh, yeah, it's.

598
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Speaker 3: One one little tidbit, just that I noticed here from

599
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Speaker 3: this guy that you you shouted out Sultan Ahmed al Jabart,

600
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Speaker 3: which is like he spent his first his talk at

601
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: the Climate on his first day his major address, like

602
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Speaker 3: complaining about how the media had misinterpreted him about his climate,

603
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: about his you know, comments earlier aboutw we'll never be

604
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Speaker 3: able to divest from fossil fuels. And it's just such

605
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: a like hallmark powerful person abdication of responsibility to then

606
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: like just get their backs up about being misquoted and

607
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: then spend their whole time. I feel like that's like

608
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: if you're president of FIFA, that's all you do. You

609
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: complain about media coverage. You don't actually address all the things.

610
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: But it's like it's like it was it's just such

611
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: a classic classic move and it was just.

612
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Speaker 1: In a classic keynote. You want to open open the

613
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Speaker 1: conference by talking about your own petty bullshit and resens

614
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Speaker 1: that's how people you get everybody investment.

615
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: The keynote address for the Conference of the Parties to

616
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Speaker 2: help tackle the issue of Earth death, and you kick

617
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: it off with to all my fucking haters. You're like,

618
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: oh shit, no, no, no, this is this is completely

619
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: gone off the rails.

620
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: Amazing. All right, let's move on to the boring black

621
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Speaker 1: Mirror episode that young people today.

622
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Speaker 3: Of the top cops on the discord. Okay cops, top.

623
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Speaker 2: Cops Commandant Lessarge from Police Academy.

624
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: And that's it.

625
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that guy rules, just completely oblivious.

626
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: Completely senile. Yeah, that's what we need.

627
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: Was he Henry from Punky Brewster or do I just

628
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: is he just that guy in my memory?

629
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: No way to know, I said, Lessarge Lassard George Gaines.

630
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: That's what was the I mean we can well wait,

631
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: we'll sidebar, we'll sidebar.

632
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: Anyways, Henry Punky.

633
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he was. He was. Hey, look

634
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: at that. It was Henry Warnemont. I'm Punky bar. It

635
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: is all right there.

636
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: There was an article on Axios a couple weeks back

637
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: that is basically just saying we're going to be living

638
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: with roommates until we're fifty. That is, on average, the

639
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: average age of people who can rent solo is fifty now,

640
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: because everyone under that age is too poor and the

641
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: rent is too damn high. It also mentions the baby

642
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: boomers have quote ditched home ownership for low maintenance apartments,

643
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: which makes it sound like a breezy lifestyle choice.

644
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: This one easy hack.

645
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, find out about this one easy hack. Real estate

646
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: agents don't want you to know about. Sell your house to.

647
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: Them, Sell your house to a corporate entity.

648
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Yes, the one that really jumped out to me, eighty

649
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: seven percent jump in the number of Americans age twenty

650
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: five to thirty four living at home in twenty twenty

651
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Speaker 1: one compared to the previous decade. Meanwhile, the typical repeat

652
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: home buyer is currently fifty eight according to data from

653
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: the National Association of Realtors. And you know, there's been

654
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: a lot of reporting from There's a New York Times

655
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: article from last year. There's a Script's article from earlier

656
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: this year about how more and more single family homes

657
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: than ever are being purchased by investors, which ties into

658
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: our special episode about private equity companies from earlier in

659
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: the year. I think who killed the free ambulance? Was

660
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: that what it was called? Something along those.

661
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: Lines, just industry by industry, just following it out.

662
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

663
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Speaker 1: And there's this one quote in the Script's news article

664
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Speaker 1: that I just want to read to you guys, word

665
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: for word. There are billions of dollars, trillions of dollars,

666
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: just sloshing around in the econ me looking for places

667
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: to go.

668
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: Where do we go?

669
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: What are we going to invest in? Real estate is

670
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: a really really good investment, said Mike Delpre, a global

671
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: real estate text strategist and scholar. It's definitely an issue

672
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: worth paying attention to. So from his perspective, it's like

673
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: an issue worth paying attention to.

674
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: Scholar.

675
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a real estate text strategist and scholar at

676
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: the University of Colorado, Boulder.

677
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: I wonder if that was like a description he gave

678
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: to them. He's like, yeah, you can describe me as

679
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: this and.

680
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: That about s h oh, I'm a scholar of making

681
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: that bank.

682
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, it's s C A L L E R.

683
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: I'm a shot caller, that's what. Yeah, yeah, s collar.

684
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, did you not get it? Tell y'all what

685
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: to do with these houses? You can get funk right

686
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: out of here. I'm a collar.

687
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: That is ultimately where the where the term scholar came from?

688
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: Of course, just the origin.

689
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Little shot colors. But yeah, I don't know. For first

690
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: of all, very infuriating for you know, when most people's

691
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: lived reality is check to check that the investor classes

692
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: problem is like, what how do we unburden ourselves from

693
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: all these trillions of dollars that came our way during

694
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: the pandemic?

695
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: Just that that that fucking metaphor. It's so it's just

696
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: so wild, right because it's like you're like you're acknowledging

697
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: a finite resource like money, and many people don't have it,

698
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: and like you're likning it to like having like a

699
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: kiddie pool of just like fucking water slashing everywhere while

700
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: people are like dying.

701
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got money problems too, man, dude, it's slashing everywhere,

702
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: the money problem.

703
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, like I get it.

704
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. And there's always like an

705
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: industry person who's like, guys, that private companies buying up

706
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: single family homes not a big deal, Like we're actually

707
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: not that big of the industry, Like I barely matter.

708
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: I suck, okay, like none of don't even you don't, Like,

709
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: why are you even talking to me? I suck. There's

710
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: nothing here, which is usually a bad sign when like

711
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: an industry group just keeps trying to be like guys,

712
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: I like I'm I'm shit, why are you you know?

713
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: There's there's this is a non story, but I don't know.

714
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: It just seems like when you talk to like the

715
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: New York Times article from spring of last year was

716
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: just looking at an individual I think it was Charlotte

717
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: real estate market and it's just when it and I

718
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: found this to be true anybody who is thinking about

719
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: like trying to buy a home or you know, like

720
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: this is the number one thing they mentioned now is

721
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: that like you are going to get scooped by some company,

722
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: Like they talk to this woman who is trying to

723
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: buy a single family home in Charlotte instead forced to

724
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: downsize from a rental home to an apartment, and you know,

725
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: the the car that or the home that she wants

726
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: to buy is bought my tricon Residential who owns sixteen

727
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: hundred homes.

728
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, this got me thinking about a kind of

729
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 3: bigger sort of story I feel like in my life

730
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: and I'm curious how you think about kind of home

731
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: ownership and how I've thought about it, you know, because

732
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: I do think like I'm of a generation where I

733
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: did push back or you know kind of there was

734
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: a car I thought a really important conversation about like,

735
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: well is home ownership the sort of goal, you know,

736
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: and our parents that was the thing for our parents coming,

737
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: you know. And I was like to buy a home

738
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: and effort. That is the American dream. And I, you know,

739
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: I think I became convinced and I kind of probably

740
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: spouted language along these lines of like, well, you know,

741
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: that's not the fit for everyone, you know, and maybe

742
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: it's not the fit for me. And I wonder if

743
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: we were kind of sold, well, we were kind of

744
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: being sold to that idea. They're like, no, it's not

745
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's not ye it's the American dream anymore.

746
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: There's other ways in the mean time, you know, that

747
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: option was just being ripped off the table to begin with,

748
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: and that I think is the real sort of tragedy here.

749
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: It's just it's not just that, like everyone should own

750
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: a home and that is the most you know, that

751
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: is still the sort of definition of the American dream.

752
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: But just the lack of options and and everyone I know,

753
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: you know, and all the people in the reporting here,

754
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: the pervading feeling is just constriction, you know, and the

755
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: inability to even make a choice and have agency and

756
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: sort of figure out what's best for yourself. And I

757
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: think that's like, you know, that's incredibly tragic. And I

758
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: will say, like, you know, this may be taking us

759
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: a little bit of far afield, but I will say, like,

760
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: when I think about this kind of big conversation that's happening,

761
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: and it will only build going into next year about

762
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: the disconnect between people's economic feelings and the actual economic

763
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: indicators that are out there. And you know, binding has

764
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: built a pretty good economy, but people still think the

765
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 3: economy is terrible. Yeah, housing is the answer to me, right, Yeah,

766
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: you can look at every other you know, metric about

767
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: wage growth and inflation going down and all these other things.

768
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: But if you just like can't get from here to there,

769
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: if you want to own a home, like I don't

770
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: think any of those other metrics matten or if you

771
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: feel like that's like a big part of it, I think.

772
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on the verge of not making rent like that.

773
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Then Yeah. Homelessness is like, you know, something that hangs

774
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: over a lot of people who are still might show

775
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: up on that as like employed, and you know, but

776
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: being employed and the precarity of like being in a

777
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: gig economy, you know, role is like that's not a

778
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: comfortable place to be and a lot of these things

779
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: are things that have just changed generation to generation.

780
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: You know, you know it does it does tie into

781
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: that sort of gig economy overall, like gig ification of

782
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: our lives that like oh yeah, you know yeah, if

783
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: you're under forty, like the way you want to live

784
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: your life is just like improvising every day, you know,

785
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: like just move around and your rent and you figured

786
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: this out, You figured this out, you have a five.

787
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

788
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: I think yeah, stability well, and I think like the

789
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: cop what what happened to the cop conference is.

790
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: A I think you're gonna say a cop on the slide?

791
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Slide happened to the US economy?

792
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: No?

793
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: What like that would be a good time hopping in there,

794
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: and it just fucked us up. On the other end, well, you.

795
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Have corporations and like private equity companies as like the

796
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: major decision makers and like designers of an entire civilization

797
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: for for decades, which it seems like we've had for

798
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: for a while now, and like really being the power

799
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: that politicians have to you know, push back against and

800
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: often like listen to like this is kind of what

801
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: you end up with where it's just like their flexibility

802
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: is the thing that ends up being you know, unshakable

803
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: and not like people's security at the end of the

804
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: day and feeling secure. So it just feels like any

805
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: anywhere where where they have fully where like massive corporations

806
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: or private equity or you know, the people who view

807
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: money as a problem in the sense that they what

808
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: to do with all this money being the problem that

809
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: they're trying to solve, Like when those are the only

810
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: people making the decisions, like you end up with subtle

811
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: fissures in like day to day life of people who

812
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: aren't making those decisions that don't don't look great, don't

813
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: feel great. And you know, there's a Senate bill that

814
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: would close legal, tax and regulatory loopholes that allow private

815
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: equity firms to capture all the rewards of the investments

816
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: in real estate while insulating them from risk. And it

817
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: has sat in committees since Elizabeth Warren and Sharrod Brown

818
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: introduced it in October of last year. So it's yeah, it's.

819
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 2: There's like, yeah, I think Rocana also has a bill

820
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: about banning corporate landlords because like when you look at it,

821
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: I mean, this problem is only increasing and you know,

822
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos just put like a ton of money into

823
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: this like new company. This is like an investment company

824
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: called Arrived that basically allows people to like like become

825
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: sort of small time landlords. It's like, well you can

826
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: get you can own a property for as little as

827
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars by like crowd crowd fucking people like that.

828
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: And that's sort of like this new like we're just

829
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: seeing all these entry points to sort of either because

830
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: I see something like this a lot of people that

831
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: are defending this company, It's like, well, they're not like

832
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: one of these institutional corporate landlords like Invitation Homes that

833
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: owns eighty thousand single family rental homes or like Blackstone.

834
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: They're like, this is actually allowing people just a way

835
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: to have that kind of security or those aspirations in

836
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: a way that's realistic for them. And really it's just

837
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: more like they're being like you could be a landlord, dude,

838
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: Like you're not gonna live here, but you can you

839
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: can fucking maybe profit off of this situation.

840
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: They're not a Blackstone, more of a gray Stone, which

841
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: is also a massive corporate create.

842
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: How many colors are left white?

843
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 2: Brownstone?

844
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Brownstone, all right, well let's uh, let's take

845
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: a break and we'll come back and talk about less

846
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: less depressing things. Maybe we'll see maybe maybe we'll be

847
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back. And first of all, just

848
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: big news. George Santos is on cameo, So get your

849
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: get your wallets ready, get your wallets out, folks. Two

850
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851
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Speaker 1: birthday gossip, pep talk, roast advice, another.

852
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Speaker 2: Oh man, let's get like you can pay him to

853
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: like tell like confidential ship or something.

854
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: You want to know the sea of stuff. You know,

855
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: how do I get the gossip on what my neighbor's

856
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: Social Security number is?

857
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on with the Pacific Fleet? Right now?

858
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: You can give that tea.

859
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: And then John Fetterman used it to tuch shit at

860
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Bob Menendez. So that's a little gossip.

861
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: That's t It's just also we just found out Bob Menendez,

862
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: like those gold bars that he got paid when we

863
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: talked about how he was taking like he was literally

864
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: taking literal gold bars, they were from some robbery from

865
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 2: ten years ago.

866
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that.

867
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: Like they connected robbery that somehow. Yeah, they're like, yeah, anyway,

868
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: so that senator has it and then you have. It's

869
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: just like it's funny. A lot of people are like, wow,

870
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: John Fetterman paid George Santos to like troll Bob Menendez.

871
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I don't know, like the Fetterman things

872
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: are to really wear thin where I'm like, Okay, I

873
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: get you were very savvy on social media when you

874
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: were just dunking on doctor Oz during the campaign, and

875
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: now like I'm just like just from the the like

876
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: the jingoistic stuff like that he's been doing with like

877
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: Israel's like wrapping himself in a flag and stuff and

878
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: being like there was no means will like the civilian

879
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: death stop. And now he's like and I also gave

880
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: George Santo's campaign money out your pockets, yeah, to like

881
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: own Bob Menendez. Like none of it is.

882
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: Just like now this, I mean this, I'm like this

883
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: makes me want to scream, Like this is just so

884
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: depressing and like, yeah, the Federman thing and the Santos

885
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: thing and the enabling of Santos, I mean obviously the

886
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: enabling of Santos up until this point also makes me

887
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: want to scream I just think it's just like incredible

888
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 3: that they didn't find a way. You know, I think

889
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: you can you can measure a lot by sort of

890
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: what are people willing to put up with? And I

891
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: think like that's a really good way to look at

892
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: the modern Republican Party is like where is the line

893
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: for you know, not that's the like not what not

894
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: what's become acceptable? But where has the line for what's unacceptable?

895
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: Move to? Uh?

896
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: And you know the fact that this wasn't on the

897
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: on that side of the line until very recently, but yeah,

898
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: this cameo thing, it's like it's so well, it's embarrassing

899
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: and it's like so unserious and it is I think,

900
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: like really like a culmination of a really corrosive thing

901
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 3: of just like what like we think everything is reality TV.

902
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: We think everything is like an ironic game, and it's like,

903
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 3: what the what are we doing?

904
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: People? Like it's really really.

905
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: Frustrating, And the fact that like anostensibly serious democrat is

906
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 3: like playing that game, It's just like, yeah, what the fuck?

907
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: What the fuck?

908
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're talking about it. I'm just

909
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: trying to decide which of the two presidential candidates who

910
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: have laser eyes e mojis I should vote for yeah, right,

911
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: But we're a very serious political nation.

912
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: I mean I want dark Brandon. It's not a guy

913
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: you know, you know it is.

914
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: I mean this is where Santo's probably should have been

915
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: all along, right, I mean he like that's That's another

916
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: part of this story too, is like the fact that

917
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: people whose destiny was d level celebrity selling videos for

918
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars on cameo, the fact that they see

919
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 3: politics as their path to that, like it's a perfectly

920
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 3: reasonable place to end up. Great, you know, Ted Cruz,

921
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: like Ted Cruse right now wants to be a podcast host.

922
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: That's clearly wants what he wants to do.

923
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: He should just.

924
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: Leave politics and be a podcast host. And the fact

925
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: that people still think it's reasonable to stay in politics,

926
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 3: so they think it's all part of the same game, right,

927
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the that is the core of the

928
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: problem right now.

929
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: And my call letters are kiss my ass? Oh those

930
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: aren't letters, man? Those what where my cruisers at?

931
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: Y'all out there? Let me hear you one time? All right? Cool?

932
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like with Santos we're seeing like

933
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: the death of a politician and the birth of a

934
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: reality TV celebrity whose name I wouldn't otherwise have known.

935
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but well he's you know, he's following the playbook,

936
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 2: Like how all people who get into sponsored content from

937
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: a reality show, you know, like you you make a

938
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: big scene, people like oh, who's that on that show?

939
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: Then you get off and then you can start doing

940
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: some spawn con on the Instagram. Although I don't know

941
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: to the label.

942
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: The point it's the reality TV show play, but not

943
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 3: the fucking politics play.

944
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: But it's completely Donald Trump, like it's the reality it's both.

945
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, not to mention that just like, gosh, some of

946
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: the stuff he's actually accused of doing. It's not just like,

947
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: oh what I'm like lovable grifter, like some really awful

948
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: shit stealing from fucking cancer. But then there's like some

949
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: shit about a dog, like it's just really it should

950
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: just be beyond.

951
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: The different way.

952
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: Hasn't stolen from cancer, It.

953
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 2: Wasn't done a fundraiser for a dog, and then check

954
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: all the money for yourself. You think I got Lambeau.

955
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: Wow, Well yeah, all right, let's talk bass pro shops.

956
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: So this came to our attention because Garth Brooks we

957
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: for some reason we like to keep an eye on

958
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Garth Brooks. He's the best selling artist in American pop

959
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: music history, which I think flies under the radar a

960
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: little bit. He has a new album, but it's only

961
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: available to buy in bass pro shops and the hell yeah, like,

962
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a weird. I think he was

963
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: like trying to do like it has no digital footprint.

964
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: There are like no reviews from professional critics, possibly because

965
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: it's only available at bass pro shops. But it's like, yeah,

966
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: you can't really get it online. It's it's weird.

967
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: Is it an album if it only comes out at

968
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: pass pro shops. It's kind of I think where we're

969
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: at philosophically, because they're like, I don't know how stick

970
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: it's only there no no review copies for anybody. You

971
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: think it's just a bad album, Like it's a in

972
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: like intentional He's like, yeah, let's just release it at

973
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: bess pro shops.

974
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: It's like the Wu Tang album that they only sold

975
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: to Martin Screley, but just you know, with a couple

976
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: thousand copies and stuff, just the one.

977
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: I know, I know this is a different era, but

978
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 3: are you familiar with the two thousand and seven Joni

979
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: Mitchell album Shine. Are you familiar with the two thousand

980
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 3: and eight Carly Simon album This Kind of Love? No,

981
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: those albums were put out on a record label, Conquered

982
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: Music Group that was co founded by Starbucks, and you

983
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: can only buy those CDs in Starbucks and Starbucks. This

984
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: isn't totally different from something that has happened in the past.

985
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: I know we're living in the digital music era, but

986
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, there are This has long been the case

987
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: where you can kind of like find particular music or

988
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: culture in particular stores, and people have done specific releases,

989
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: you know, and so big chains have started record labels before.

990
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: It's a little weird in the digital era where like,

991
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: I mean, Starbucks shuttered its record thing as soon as

992
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 3: the Internet took But I think.

993
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: It's more interesting from the perspective, not like from Garth

994
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: what you do, Oha man, and more from the perspective

995
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: of like what does this corporation see themselves as? And

996
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: in the case of Starbucks, it was misguided that they

997
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: were like Starbucks is really like more of a vibe.

998
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: It's more of like.

999
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 3: A although I mean it really happened, I mean it

1000
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: was a powerful cultural force for a while. I mean

1001
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: there's like a whole sort of generation of bands that like, yeah,

1002
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: just you knows we're Starbucks bands, and like that phenomenon

1003
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 3: of like hearing something in Starbucks and then seeing that

1004
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: the album was right there to purchase next to the store.

1005
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, and I think that's like part

1006
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: of a story. I mean, Starbucks clearly wanted this to happen.

1007
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: I think press Prostrps clearly wants this to happen. But

1008
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: you know that that the brand and the store become

1009
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 3: a sort of cultural space more than just a place

1010
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: where you go to buy stuff. And yeah, that's clearly

1011
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: what's happening here.

1012
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: And then I just but it's just interesting when you

1013
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: see an artist make a decision like that where it's like, right, yeah,

1014
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: I like to sell albums. But then you're like, you know,

1015
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: this isn't the best way to achieve like ubiquity for

1016
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: this album, right, is to just put physical copies in

1017
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: this one store. So that's I'm like, I'm always curious

1018
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: what the economic of it are for them to be like,

1019
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: they're actually paying me a lot of money up front, yeah,

1020
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: to do I wonder, you know what I mean?

1021
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 3: Right, But also, I mean I do wonder how much

1022
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: it is that like you're not going to be making

1023
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: You don't make music by selling actual music anymore anyway.

1024
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: So it's like if this is if there's some big

1025
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: endorsement deal here where he gets a bag for that,

1026
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: and then he goes makes this money the way that

1027
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: you can kind of actually make money in music these days,

1028
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: which is a huge tour.

1029
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: Or whatever, you know.

1030
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: And then now so I suspect he has some he's

1031
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: got some people with some spreadsheets in his camp.

1032
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the right way to go.

1033
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he I mean, he's done this before with targeting

1034
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: and Walmart. But Bess, pro shops are kind of so

1035
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: have you company. I've never been inside.

1036
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: I've been there.

1037
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: It's wonderful, it's wild. I was like, there's a fucking

1038
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: you could test drive a boat in the boat, like.

1039
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: You can test. You know, I grew up fishing. I

1040
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: went to a lot of Best Pro shops and like,

1041
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: you know, you can test. You could test all your

1042
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: reels there and they have ponds and then you know,

1043
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 3: it's it is a real like amusement park slash, right, yeah,

1044
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: cultural space slash. You know, they're trying to sell you

1045
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff too, including a bunch of guns,

1046
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: which is probably the major.

1047
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: Seller of guns, and they are among the only they

1048
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: are the biggest seller of guns that just refuse to

1049
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: implement any restrictions in the wake of Marjorie Stoneman shooting

1050
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: and Sandy Hook and you know, just kept selling assault

1051
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: rifles even after personal appeals from Sandy Hook families and

1052
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: then pass Pro shops are a longtime partner of the NRA.

1053
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: One of their stores even houses a NRA gun museum,

1054
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: and they sell NRA t shirts featuring, say, a picture

1055
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: of a handgun with a Constitution engraved on the barrel.

1056
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: One Arkansas store made headlines for selling a rifle that

1057
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: celebrated the tail trail of tears massacre like that on

1058
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: the box.

1059
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're about the we're like for hunters man

1060
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: in that whole thing. Celebrate the trail of tears of this.

1061
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: It has like people on horses with the rifle that

1062
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: you're buying with, you know, Native Americans walking.

1063
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: All right, here's a here's a quiz for the two

1064
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: of you at the NRA National Sporting Arms Museum at

1065
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: the Springfield, Missouri Brass Post shops. There is an exhibit

1066
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: called the Hollywood Collection, and it features guns used and

1067
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: owned by at least four Hollywood celebrities. Okays are on display. No,

1068
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 3: not Charltons. That is surprising, but no not I think.

1069
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: The first one.

1070
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: No, Clint Eastwood, Yes, Clinta is the first one. And

1071
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 3: the second one is probably pretty obvious too.

1072
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: None of the action heroes like a hero.

1073
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: Nope, No, it's in that Clinton, It's in that Clint Yep.

1074
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: John Wayne is the second person listed. The third one

1075
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: is a current bo I would say, not known for guns,

1076
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 3: maybe known for other more swashbuckling forms of violence, camp

1077
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: be violence in his movies.

1078
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh, Johnny Depp.

1079
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 3: Johnny Depp really And the fourth selection.

1080
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Johnny should have guns personal safety and others well, like

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00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: like flintlock pistols and shit like.

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00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: His guns be taken and be put in the museum

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00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: at the Springfield Very Presto shop. And then the fourth

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00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: one is Tom Selleck. So see Tom Selek's gun.

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00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: I guess name was Magnum. For God's sake, there you go.

1086
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: So I was surprised to learn that Bass Pro Shops

1087
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: empire was largely paid for by taxpayers, so they routinely

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00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: build giant stores using government subsidies promising economic benefits such

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00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: as jobs, and the jobs disproportionately go to white people.

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00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: As a twenty eleven Equal Employment Opportunity Commission lawsuit alleged

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00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: the fishing and hunting gear supplier knowingly and systematically discriminated

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00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: against Hispanic and Black applicants and hiring, and some of

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00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: its managers used racial slurs. One manager of Houston air

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00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: are A store told his human resource manager that quote,

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00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: it's getting a little dark in here. You need to

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00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: hire some white people.

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Speaker 2: Jeez.

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00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: So and an investigation like a euphemism in the first

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00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: half of that, they're quickly judge, and then he follows it.

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00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: Up with people, I'm not known for my subtlety.

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00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: But an investigation in twenty twelve found that two point

1103
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: two billion in taxpayer money went to Bass pro Shops

1104
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: and Kabela's, which is Bass pro Shops bought in twenty

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00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: sixteen in the preceding fifteen years, noting the best pro

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00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: Shops often pays comparably little towards the construction of its

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: own stores, and their argument is that their business should

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00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: be viewed as a public amenity like a park, or

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00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: a library or a museum. Yeah, these aren't just stores,

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: these are natural history museums. Well with their CEOs.

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: People who would agree with you are currently trying to

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00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: destroy libraries also, So we're gonna have to find common

1113
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: ground here.

1114
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: Why do you need libraries when you have quote, gun libraries,

1115
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: which is what they call some of their like gun

1116
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: collections that act as legal justification to qualify as museums

1117
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: and therefore access public funds.

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00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh so it's like some Trump ship where it's like,

1119
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: put a museum called the museum, get that one gun

1120
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: from die Hard, and now you can get subsidies because

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00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: it's the fucking museum.

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00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: That's the sweatshirt where it says, ho ho ho, Now

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00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: I have a machine gun. So there's your reading material, asshole.

1124
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: The featured book on the Bass Pro Shops book page

1125
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: on their website is The Man I Knew, The Amazing

1126
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: Story of George H. W. Bush's post presidency.

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00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: There it is.

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00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 1: Written by who the Man I Knew?

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00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: Gene Becker.

1130
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if it was his mistress, because he

1131
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: famously had like a long time, long time affair, like

1132
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: somebody who is basically his chief his life yeah, oh okay,

1133
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. It seems like they've historically

1134
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: acted pretty much like a con artist would, praying on

1135
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: communities that need money by making you know, lofty promises

1136
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: to help troubled economies. Harrisburg, Pennsylvania literally played seven million

1137
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: dollars in subsidies while they were four hundred and thirty

1138
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: seven million dollars in debt and literally sold off schools

1139
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: to make that investment.

1140
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it is funny how Walmart is, like, you know,

1141
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: receive so much the ire around this kind of stuff,

1142
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: you know, but yeah, gun sales and the sort of

1143
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: extractive nature of you know, the subsidies they get and

1144
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: the wages they pay and so forth, and how they

1145
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: you know, eat up small businesses, and you know, I

1146
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 3: guess I don't have a sense of scale. I imagine

1147
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: Walmart is considerably bigger than the best pro shops. But

1148
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: it is funny that that there isn't that kind of

1149
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: conversation about best.

1150
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: Pro shops is like a comer.

1151
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: It's like on the on the growth path.

1152
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: And like a lot of times I talk about like

1153
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: the singularity, the thing that everyone's afraid of, where this

1154
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: like HyperIntelligence that becomes undefeatable and insinuates itself into our lives,

1155
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: like is already here and it is just hyper capitalism

1156
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: and like you know, Walmart figures out this amazing way

1157
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: to exploit taxpayers and like get everywhere. It's not like

1158
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: Bass Pro Shop is not learning from that and going

1159
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: to like take every single you know, learning that they

1160
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: possibly can to keep to keep growing and doing the

1161
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: same thing. So that's yeah, it's uh, we got to.

1162
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: Find a way. We got to find a way to

1163
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: get like on this Bass Pro Shop subsidies.

1164
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: Wave, you know what I meaneah, like National Service.

1165
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm almost like I would love to like how are

1166
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: they able to do it so well like that to

1167
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,959
Speaker 2: be like like it's like a football stadium or some shit.

1168
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: It's like on that level because it's like football. It's like, right, no,

1169
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: I get that, Yeah, Cartoon America Americana. Yeah, but I

1170
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: wonder who, like because clearly like there are many people

1171
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: who have connections with their lobbying efforts or whatever, and

1172
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm I really want to see, like who are the

1173
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 2: people that are really helping because you know, like when

1174
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: you see it like subsidies like this, there's always like

1175
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: a couple senators or congress people who are like always

1176
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: like sticking up for that kind of shit I saw

1177
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 2: when I was lobbying. How like they were like three

1178
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: senators who we knew like would have the industries back

1179
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: for certain things. So I'm curious who, like the real

1180
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: people are who are like you know, BPS, dude, I

1181
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: got your back no matter what. The subsidies will keep

1182
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: flooding because look, it's a museum, it is a library.

1183
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: It is a place for us to do better, to

1184
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: improve ourselves and not and also discriminate against, you know,

1185
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: people who would like to work here.

1186
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I throw something on your list for future

1187
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: things to dig into?

1188
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: Yes?

1189
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: Dollar General. You know that Dollar General has more than

1190
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: four times as many stores in the US as Walmart. Yeah,

1191
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: it's like a force, and it's the same thing. It's

1192
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: extractive and low wages, and the CEO of Dollar General

1193
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 3: has actually bragged that he can like shutter a store

1194
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 3: and move out of a town in twenty four hours. Uh,

1195
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: I mean it is just incredible, So yeah, worth worth

1196
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 3: a dig into.

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's wild. Yeah, like also says a lot

1198
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: about like, you know, how a lot of these industries

1199
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: look at consumers and like where they're at and being

1200
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: like yeah, and we can just kind of keep keep

1201
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: the accelerator down on that, on that movement.

1202
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the economy is thriving, so no one's going to

1203
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: have to shop at a Dollar General. That place is

1204
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: on its way out. Jody, what a pleasure of having

1205
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: you as always?

1206
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1207
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you? All that good stuff?

1208
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 3: Allow me to utter the four greatest words in the

1209
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:32,959
Speaker 3: English language. Yes, follow me on threads. Threads, I'm making

1210
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: it happen, like it, I'm making it happen now. No,

1211
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: I've been over there for a while and then I

1212
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: kind of like dilly dallied and I've just I don't

1213
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: know whatever I mean. I'm I'm I'm trying very complicated

1214
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: feeling is obviously about Twitter whatever, but I'm trying to

1215
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 3: post more on threads and it does make me feel

1216
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: slightly better. Yeah, so you know, follow me there, but

1217
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 3: uh yeah, listen to the Puzzler.

1218
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: I like that.

1219
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: I really like making the show. It's like a daily

1220
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: shorts from iHeart so, but you know, it's it's like

1221
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: five eight minutes a day. It's very fun. I think

1222
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 3: you guys sometimes, So yeah, yeah.

1223
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: I know.

1224
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: I was like listening to a couple episodes, and it's

1225
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: funny how sometimes I think this happens to anyone listening

1226
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: to a podcast where like any kind of trivia or

1227
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: something is being asked and you know the answer before

1228
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: the person on the show. Do you like that? Do

1229
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: you like? So?

1230
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: This is something we've talked about a lot making the show.

1231
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: You know, do you do? You?

1232
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: Do you like those moments? Are they frustrating to you?

1233
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 3: This question of whether you know we want it so

1234
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 3: that the audience knows before the guests or a vice versa.

1235
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's some that are like actually into

1236
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: like like obviously really good questions that I didn't like,

1237
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: couldn't answer at all. But the ones that I knew,

1238
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm less like, I don't know that doesn't that's not

1239
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: necessarily aggravating. I think it's more for like my ego

1240
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: to be like, I know this, come.

1241
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 3: On, I think that's what we found, you know. And

1242
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: I and I used to write the like year end

1243
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: news quiz on the Brian Lehir Show, which is like

1244
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: the big you know call in show here in New

1245
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 3: York at w M i C. And like the thing

1246
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: I learned there was like you can't make it too

1247
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 3: easy because people people like to get stuff right and

1248
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: people listening like to know stuff and like it's actually

1249
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: and it's also like pretty crappy radio to like hear

1250
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 3: someone struggle and so you know, not that the puzzler

1251
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 3: isn't like stimulating and engaging, but we've tried to find

1252
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: that sweet spot and generally our default is kind of

1253
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 3: like if the audience at home gets it before the guests,

1254
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: that's a really good dynamic.

1255
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, clearly you've gone with that dynamic

1256
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: because you've asked us to come.

1257
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: On and be like no, yeah, I mean now we've

1258
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 3: basically we're the biggest idiots we're convienced to.

1259
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 2: Come on this show.

1260
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about the phrase dull boy?

1261
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: Golly really geez, got it all over my shirt?

1262
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 3: What?

1263
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm real.

1264
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm eating a burrito, tackle bell I get it

1265
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: extra chrispy. Yeah, all right, amazing. Is there a work

1266
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: of media that you've been enjoying, Jodie.

1267
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: I really like that show The Rest Is History. If

1268
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: you listen to that show, it's these two British historians

1269
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 3: and they just do big, deep dives but I mean,

1270
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: I just find myself listening to that more than any

1271
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: other show. And they're very funny and they know their stuff,

1272
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 3: and they do these big multi part series. And they're

1273
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 3: doing one Ratty right now about the JFK assassination, which

1274
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 3: is super deep and which is heavy. But the rest

1275
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: is history is history. The rest is history. Now, yeah,

1276
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: which guy, Now you have my attention, and this is.

1277
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: This is heavy.

1278
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: But but the thing that hooked me on them, and

1279
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: I think is like really stunning, is they did a

1280
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: multi part series about the rise of Hitler, the Rise

1281
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: of the Nazis, and it, like, you know, it's one

1282
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 3: of those stories that I've engaged with so many different

1283
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: over and over and in so many different ways, and

1284
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like I kind of really understood that

1285
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: dynamics until I listened to this. So you know, I

1286
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: would highly recommend that. So got the rest is history,

1287
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: but just dive in. They do all these you know,

1288
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 3: they do all sorts of stuff.

1289
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm so in tes by that we might have to

1290
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: cut that recommendation because nobody's going to listen to our

1291
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: podcast now. Excitingly amazing miles mm hmm. Where can people

1292
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: find you as their work media you've been enjoying.

1293
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, find me on you know, the at based places,

1294
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Speaker 2: including Threads, at Miles of Gray, Find Jack and I

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Speaker 2: on our basketball podcast Miles and jackob Back, and also

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Speaker 2: what else, what else? Find me on four twenty day Fiance.

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Speaker 2: We're talk about ninety day fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Let's

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Speaker 2: see a tweet. I like, this is something actually I

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Speaker 2: forgot was a thing. But at morning Gloria Aaron Ryan

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Speaker 2: shared this this Daily Beast article which maybe she wrote,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, it said, time for my aie. It is

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Speaker 2: actually time for my annual sharing of the most important

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Speaker 2: home alone theory and possibly the apex of my writing

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Speaker 2: career and home alone. What if Kevin McAllister is dead

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Speaker 2: the whole time? Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, weavy, but he's in ghost wandering around that house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do his parents know he's dead or they're gonna come

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Speaker 1: back and hat?

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Speaker 2: But he hated his family too, Like what's good? There's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: so he's already dead, oh the whole time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like even in the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Jack, you gotta read this is how this is how

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Speaker 2: chum the waters. So you can check out Aaron Ryan's Wait,

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Speaker 2: does she go on there? Does she just positive the

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Speaker 2: whole thing? It's the piece is called home alone? Is

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Speaker 2: so much better if Kevin McCall's it's a piece.

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Speaker 3: I see. I thought it was just a profit.

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Speaker 2: Let me just throw that out there. And I've heard

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Speaker 2: like people say this before in years past, Like I like,

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Speaker 2: it felt like some peak college stone. She's like, du

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Speaker 2: you know, like he's dead, right, But yeah, this is.

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Speaker 3: The question is could you basically do that for every movie?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: So could you just take that theory and PLoP it

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Speaker 3: onto any movie?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, probably every movie?

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Speaker 1: Basically, Yeah, I have this theory. What if Bruce Willis

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Speaker 1: is dead in the sixth sense?

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Speaker 2: There you go, think about that.

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Speaker 1: Blow your mind.

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Speaker 3: This is a good podcast idea, just like just a

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Speaker 3: movie review podcast where we just talk about it. But

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Speaker 3: the main character's dead, right exactly.

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Speaker 2: The Godfather, You're like, dude.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't even make sense, Shut up, it does.

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Speaker 2: He's fucking dead time. It's actually spooky. Now on the

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Speaker 2: day of his daughter's wedding, why do they go to him?

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Speaker 2: Because he have that kid man.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: Some tweets I've been enjoined. Speaking of home alone, Young

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Speaker 1: Chomsky has the picture of Kevin talking to his neighbor

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Speaker 1: the snowshovel killer, and his neighbor's saying, my son won't

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Speaker 1: speak to me, he's too woke. And then Scott Hagley tweeted,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they just introduced seatbelts now, conservatives would

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Speaker 1: be so mad and just a good point. They would

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Speaker 1: not be wearing those shits.

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Speaker 3: They would be oh well, there's act footage of that

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Speaker 3: floating around when they mandated seatbelts, and you have people

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Speaker 3: saying the exact same language that they were saying around COVID.

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Speaker 3: You know, like government tell me what to do. I

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Speaker 3: can trust you know, I trust myself. And there's one

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Speaker 3: you know, it's in It's like it's.

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Speaker 2: Incredible say with like drinking and driving, Like if I

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Speaker 2: want to have a beer rap work and you're like, wow,

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Speaker 2: I'm driving home from work.

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Speaker 1: And to work. You can find us on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: daily zeike Geist. We're at the Daily zeit Geist on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fanpage and a website Daily zeike

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Speaker 1: guist dot com, where we post our episodes and our footnote.

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Speaker 1: We link off to the information that we talked about

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as the song that we

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Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do we think

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Speaker 1: people might enjoy? Uh?

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Speaker 2: This is a track from a German English new jazz vocalist.

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Speaker 2: I believe U. Let me make sure I have the

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Speaker 2: name right. Yeah, this is Freya Roy Roy f r

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Speaker 2: e y A and it's called Calling My Name. It's

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Speaker 2: just a dope kind of new jazz. I'm like interestingly enough,

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Speaker 2: all the music apps that I use it like you

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Speaker 2: listen to a lot of English new jazz, European new jazz.

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Speaker 2: Here are some new artists for you to check out.

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Speaker 2: And this one actually I liked a lot. So this

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Speaker 2: is Rayo Roy with Calling my Name.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we will link off to that in

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Speaker 1: the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeis is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeart Radio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever fine podcasts or give it away

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Speaker 1: for free. That's gonna do it for us this morning,

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Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and

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Speaker 1: we will touch you all.

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