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Please keep in mind that 19 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: all of my guests are nonnes so let's again this 20 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: week's episode. I am super excited to have my guests 21 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: on the show today as she will be sharing her 22 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: journey on becoming a hypnoe therapist. So to my guests, 23 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: how are you doing, how are you feeling? I'm wow? 24 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for asking, of course. So I know that 25 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: some of the listeners might have an idea of what 26 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: hypno therapy is, but for those who don't, can you 27 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: please explain what it is? H Okay, here we go. 28 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: So hypno therapy. Um, let's first, let's just think about 29 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: the word hypno. So you have hypno and then you 30 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: have therapy. And hypno is a Greek word for sleep. Well, 31 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: it is derived from the word hypnos m h y 32 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: p and o s. I believe hypnos, which is a 33 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Greek word that means sleep and therapy. You know, it's 34 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: a process of helping people to heal through various modalities. 35 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: So it's a combination of um. We're calling it sleep 36 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: and we're putting that an air quote sleep as in 37 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: like trance um going into an altered state. We're going 38 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: to call that sleep. That's how you know. The word 39 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: sleep is um later defined and so it's a it's 40 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: a process of helping someone to heal through the use 41 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: of um and altered um. Um sort of I won't 42 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: say altered reality, but um um an altered state of 43 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: mind essentially. Yeah, you do have one of those voices 44 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: that be that be on TV on HP size of people. 45 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: The rat is very soothing. Oh thank you, You're welcome. 46 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: So who were your thoughts on hypno therapy before you 47 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: started providing it to your clients. Well, UM, I thought 48 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: that it was in alignment with what I believed in 49 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: terms of um just the power of the mind. I 50 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: was always like a power of the mind kind of person, 51 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: even growing up, because my mother would say mind over matter. 52 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: She would always say mind over matter, and that was 53 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: like a hot thing to say back then. And UM, 54 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: and I remember she basically was saying, you know, strengthen 55 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: your mind, use your mind, and whatever you think about 56 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: you can bring about whatever you can do. You know, 57 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: from the mind, you can change your life, you can 58 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: change your experiences. So although she didn't put it that 59 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: way that I as a kid, I pretty much you know, 60 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: put two and two together, figured out that's what she meant. 61 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: And I remember as young as nine years old, I 62 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: wanted to put it to test and so um, because 63 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: she would, you know, it was just always in my 64 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: ear mind open man and mind over matter. So one 65 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: time at nine, I think I ate a lot of 66 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: eggs because I loved eggs, and I probably ate way 67 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: too many eggs. I was just eating all kinds of 68 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: eggs that would make egg sandwiches, eggs and mayonnaise eggs. Yeah, 69 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean we use eggs for everything. Wait, where are 70 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: you from? Me from the South, I'm actually from Philadelphia. 71 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's real country. That's very country. My husband 72 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: always said, you're from Philadelphia, Mississippi, and I'm like, no, 73 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm from Philadelphia. Pensive, ain't it. But well, because my 74 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: parents were from the Deep South, but they raised us 75 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: up north, and so we had a lot of country ways. 76 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Living in the heart of the inner city country, it's 77 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: very country. So we I mean we ate scrambled eggs 78 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: and rice and maynnaise sandwich and egg sandwiches would catch 79 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: up and mustard, you know, you name it. So I 80 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: think I was just vegging out on eggs one time, 81 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: so much so that I felt sick and I got 82 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: a headache. And I think it was like my first 83 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: time getting getting a headache at nine years old, and 84 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I felt so bad, 85 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: and somehow I got over the headache. I guess it 86 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: just eventually went away. And I remember saying to myself, 87 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: I'll never get a headache again, that I will never 88 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: allow myself to have a headache. And I just really 89 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: said that to myself over and over again. And I 90 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: did not have a headache again from age nine all 91 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: the way up to my early forties. What and I 92 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: and I I feel bad about like that. It's that 93 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: the trend ended in my forties, and it was mainly 94 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: because of hormonal reasons. My body is just going through 95 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: a whole another you know, phase in life. But I 96 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I was on the thirties 97 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: some year streak, you know. But but that to me 98 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: was like me, that was my message to say, Wow, 99 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: I can use my mind. Just by thinking something, I 100 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: can change the course of my reality. And so that 101 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: was the very first time that I just, you know, 102 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: really made the connection as to why I was so 103 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: interested in hypnotherapy. I don't want to jump ahead, but 104 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: now I want to ask you, do you think the weekend? So? 105 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Can you hypnotize yourself? Yes? All the time. I hypnotize 106 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: myself all the time. I teach people how to hypnotize themselves. 107 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: In fact, most of us are hypnotized anyway. Like well, 108 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: we're hypnotized by advertisements, you know, marketing. We're hypnotized by 109 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: our teachers, our preachers, our parents, hypnotize inno sence that 110 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, they have. When people have authority over us, 111 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: oftentimes the the words that they use can resonate, resonate 112 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: with us and cause us to think something different or 113 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: believe something different, or you know, embrace something that maybe 114 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: we weren't designed to embrace. You know, maybe someone said 115 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: to us at you know, eight years old, hey, you're 116 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: you're not smart, or you can't do this, or you 117 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: can't do that, and those messages start to play in 118 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: your mind and they become, you know, part of your 119 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: subconscious beliefs, and they get embedded deep down, and it's 120 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: like a hypnotizing effect, you know. So that's one way 121 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: how we're hypnotized. But we're hypnotized just in general. Like um, 122 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: when we're driving our cars and you know, you go 123 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: the same route every day and all of a sudden, 124 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: you you might be on on the you might be 125 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: on the telephone, you might be listening to the radio, 126 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: but you really just lose sight of how you got 127 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: to where you were. When you were driving, you might 128 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: look up and like, wow, I don't remember passing five exits, 129 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: or you don't really remember making that left turn or 130 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: that right turn. You just kind of like on automatic 131 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: because you just already know how to get home. That's 132 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: a trance. That's sort of like being in a trance. No, 133 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: this conversation gonna be lit. How do you even think 134 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: about that? So now damn you must know my order? 135 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: But now, so, would you say that manifestation or manifesto 136 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: is a form of hypnotizing yourself? Yes, yes, I would 137 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: say that because as you focus on a specific idea 138 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: and you concentrate on that idea, then you can help 139 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: bring it to fruition. And yeah, and it's like it's 140 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: really teaching our subconscious mind to embrace a new thought 141 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: or a new belief. And when we start to embrace 142 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: that new thought or that new belief, then the players 143 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: outside of our lives start to help us make it 144 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: become manifest m M, you what I'm serious? I mean, yeah, 145 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean I believe, and I think I would tell 146 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: me what you thought it was gonna be. Honestly, I 147 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: didn't know what to think, because I never, like, I'm 148 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: pretty sure you haven't had a chance list to the 149 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: show because I'm we out here doing the Lord's work. 150 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: But conversations like this always like pique my interest because 151 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: you know, when you think of being hypnotized, which I'm 152 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna ask you about later, you think of get out, 153 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: or you think of like what the media shows us. 154 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: So I didn't think of it that it was gonna 155 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: go this route, which is very interesting, is educational. Yeah, 156 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: see the get Out movie. First of all, I loved 157 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: the movie. Um, I love the movie, and I had 158 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: great fun with it because of course, obviously I'm a 159 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: hypnotherapist and I'm seeing that. And the woman in the 160 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: in the movie, she was a psychologist who did hypnosis 161 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: on this sky and he went into the sunken place 162 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: and I dream tea and she was using her little 163 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: tea and her you know, her spoon. So I had 164 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: great fun with that. We're a movie going family, so 165 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: we just enjoyed that. The difference between what she does 166 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: and what I do is that she forced him to 167 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: go into an altered state. He was, He went against 168 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: his will. He did not want to do that, right, 169 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: they draped him to the chair. They forced him and 170 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: he went down into this sunken place and it wasn't healing. 171 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: So hypnois that's hypnosis. Hypnosis can Hypnosis can take you 172 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: there if that's where the person who's doing it wants 173 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: to take you. But hypnotherapy is therapeutic, it's helpful. It's 174 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: for you to reach a goal. It's not for you 175 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: to just bark like a dog and quack like a 176 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: duck and act a fool. Right, that's hypnosis. Hypnotherapy is 177 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: using hypnosis in a therapeutic way. So if someone says 178 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: I want to sleep better, or I want to lose weight, 179 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: or I want to gain self esteem, or if I want, 180 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, I want to overcome public speaking, like these 181 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: are all healthy and helpful things that the hypnotherapist will 182 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: help you do and achieve. And you know what I 183 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, is hypnosis and help hypnotherapy the 184 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: same thing? But I was like, no, it is the 185 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: same thing. Let me just take that question now. But 186 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: it's not the same thing. Well, in many ways, it 187 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: is the same thing. Right, The technique can be very similar. Right, 188 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: You're you're um, you're inducing a trance, you're helping someone 189 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: to relax their mind and their body in such a way, 190 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: um that they can receive and be open to suggestions 191 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: in hypnosis. The way if you see stage hypnosis, the 192 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: suggestion could be just for comedic relief, you know, fun entertainment. 193 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: So they may suggest that you jump up and down, 194 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: or that you flop over, or that you lay on 195 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: the floor. Right, I'm going to do the same thing 196 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm suggesting also, But my suggestion is never to make you, 197 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: um feel like you're making a fool out of yourself, 198 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: but that you're reaching a specific goal. That could you 199 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: do hypnosis like stage hypnosis, I probably could. I'm not 200 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: trained as a stage hypnosis stage hypnotist. They have a 201 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: really good skill, and their skill is to be able 202 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: to HYPNOTI hypnotize someone very rapidly. Mm hmmm. Um. My 203 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: training is not too although I've been trained to do 204 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: some rapid hypnosis, but I don't need to do it 205 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: rapidly because my style and the way I'm trained is 206 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: to develop a rapport with you so that you trust me, 207 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: so that you're open with me and you feel relaxed 208 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: with me. A hypno stage hypnotist there they don't have 209 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: time for all that they can just assess you in 210 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: five seconds, boom, put you in a trance, and boom 211 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: boom boom boom you're out of the trans and onto 212 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: the next person because they're not interested in establishing a 213 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: relationship in a mm hmmm. How long have you been 214 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: doing this? I've been doing this since um twenty uh thirteen. Wow, 215 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: how did you get started? I got started because I 216 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: went to a substance abuse conference and um, because I'm 217 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: a psychotherapist as well, and um, and so I went 218 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: to this conference just to learn about substance abuse and 219 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: how to you know, do some treatments and so forth. 220 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: And one of the speakers was many speakers. One of 221 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: the speakers says she was a hypnotherapist, And I was like, okay, wow, 222 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: hypnotherapist here doing substance abuse. That was really it just, 223 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean piqued my interest because at that time I 224 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: was just so interested in the power of the mind 225 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: and manifestation and the subconscious mind and all of that 226 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: and so and and when you're reading that kind of stuff, 227 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: you read a lot about hypnosis and the power of 228 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, trance work and so forth. So when she 229 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: said that, I approached her and um she said she would, 230 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: we would, He've been touched, and we just kept playing 231 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: phone tag. We never linked up, and and so I 232 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: just said, Okay, that's not gonna work. So I just 233 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: started doing my own research. And I found a woman 234 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: in UM in New York who had a thriving hypnotherapy 235 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: practice in Manhattan. She was an African American woman. I 236 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: looked her up. I was just so amazed because I 237 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: hadn't seen any African American women doing this back in 238 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, I had been doing this 239 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: for about five years back, you know, prior to I 240 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: was like wow. And I was just so intrigued with her, 241 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: and we just started talking being about it, and she was, 242 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, recommending different things I could do in different ways, 243 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, different places to get trained and so forth. 244 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: And before I knew it, I was getting on a 245 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: plane going to you know, I'm not even gonna recommend 246 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: the school I went to, but I was getting to 247 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: go there. It was an ex a lent school. The 248 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: teaching was far none. It was amazing. When I the teacher, 249 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,119 Speaker 1: I believe he was racist, Like he had certain aspects 250 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: about him that I'm like, yeah, no, but he could 251 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: teach his butt off, but the way he handled some 252 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: of his students, Yeah, I just decided I wasn't gonna 253 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: recommend it. Um and that's so awful because I had 254 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: I I was trained very well and um and I 255 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: appreciate and I continue to get training like I don't 256 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, I just always sharpening my skill. But that's 257 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: how I got into it. So how was your first session? 258 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: I am intrigued by you. Now you got my fool 259 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah me working on a Saturday, y'all. Like, I'm like, wow, 260 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: I am so intrigued by this conversation. Yeah, so my 261 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: first session as a therapist were as a client. I 262 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: don't believe it. So I was gonna ask you that later. 263 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: So let's do it as a therapist. Okay, oh wow. 264 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: So of course it's scary. You know, you're like, oh 265 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: my gosh, what if I do something wrong? You know, 266 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: you know what if all the what ifs. But you know, 267 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: of course, when you're going through the training, you know, 268 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: we practice so much that you know, I knew that 269 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: I could do it. But the confidence level part of 270 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: being a really good hypnotherapist, you have to be really 271 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: really confident. Think about it when you said when you 272 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: see the guys out and because I say guys, because 273 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: most of the stage and outdoor hypnotists and entertainment hypnotists, 274 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: they usually men. There are some women out there, think 275 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: about it. They they do seem very confident, right they 276 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: have you know, they're walking up the strangers, they're telling 277 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: you that I can hypnotize you, and you're like, what 278 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: you know? So there it comes with a level of confidence. 279 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's why most outdoor stage hypnotist are males, 280 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: because I think generally they're just more I wasn arrogant, 281 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: but they just are more self assured in that way. Um. 282 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: And so so the vast majority of the people in 283 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: our in my training was male. There was women there too, 284 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: but it was a lot of male. The teacher, the 285 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: facilitator was male. He was very confident, overly confident. Um. Yeah, 286 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: he was. He was. He was he was he was um. 287 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: And so so when I had my first client, of 288 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: course I had to conjure up that confidence. I know, 289 00:18:52,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: your spiritual conjure up. I'm loving it. Yeah, I mean 290 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: you have to because this person is entrusting, they're healing 291 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: and you you know, and you're saying I can help you. 292 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: You're saying I can help you, and they're like, okay, 293 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: help me then, you know. But the thing is is 294 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: that it's not about me just helping you. It's about 295 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: both of us traveling together and both of us going 296 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: through this trance together. And so I can't help someone 297 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: to enter a trance state if I'm not in it 298 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: as well. So I'm in it a little bit, but 299 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: not in you know, not so much so that I 300 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: can't do my work, But just my own voice can 301 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: entrance me, you know. So as I'm talking, and of 302 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: course I use a certain rhythm and a certain tone 303 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: and cadence that I could loathe myself into to a 304 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: very relaxed state. Yeah, because I feel very relaxed right now. 305 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, she's not giving the size of me, 306 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: like I feel so relaxed. Yeah. So I tread on 307 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: your site that your approach is rooted in social justice 308 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: through the lens of multigenerational trauma. What do you mean 309 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: by that? Oh? Can you expound on that? Yeah? Yeah, So, well, 310 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: I do mostly work with UM Black women, um Afro Latina, 311 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: um um bipoc Um indigenous women. I've worked with UM 312 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: East Indian women, anyone who considers themselves if you know 313 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: they're not white, UM, they recognize their blackness and they're UM. 314 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: Some some of them are have been marginalized for one 315 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: reason or another. I do work with white women as well, 316 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: let me just say that, but the vast majority of 317 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: the clients that come to me are are black or 318 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: bipoc right and UM. And so because of that, I 319 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: understand that the pain and trauma and all of the 320 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: things that we go through as black women, UM, it's 321 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: often rooted in UM in various generations, and things have 322 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: been kind of passed down from one generation to the next. 323 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: If I don't incorporate that in my understanding as I 324 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: work with people, and I'm just seeing them as just 325 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: human being right here and right now without a hat, 326 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: and I have to recognize that they have a mother 327 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: and a father, and a grandmother and a grandfather and 328 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: a great grandmother and a great grandfather, and it goes 329 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: back back back, and a lot of the patterns and 330 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: the behaviors and the communications styles and the addictions and 331 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: the trauma and the love. Right, the good stuff too 332 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: gets passed on and oftentimes we're just not even aware 333 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: of it. It just seeps until our everyday life and 334 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: our interactions, and we have no idea that your great 335 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: grandmother used to do and say the same thing, or 336 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: people say, well, I'm just I'm I'm just afraid of cats. 337 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: Well how did you come to be afraid of cats? 338 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: And they just don't know. But then we find out, oh, 339 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: your great grandmother was afraid of cats, and so she 340 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: taught her daughter to stay away from cats, and when 341 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: you grew up, you just avoided them. Right. So that's 342 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: what I mean by just coming from that lens social justice, 343 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: understanding the impact that society has on how we show 344 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: up the systems that we interact with every day, the 345 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: legal system, the religious institutions, the banking institutions, the educational institutions, 346 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: the family institution, like all of these things in society 347 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: held the shape and inform who we are today. M 348 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: So I incorporate all of that in my work. Mm hmmm. 349 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: So what would you say are some misconceptions about hypno therapy? Well, 350 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: one is that you can get stuck in it. That's 351 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: a that's a misconception, right, You cannot get stuck in 352 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: hypnosis mm hmm. You can't get stuck in it. What 353 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: happens is if if if I'm helping someone too, if 354 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm hypnotizing someone and I I don't know, I just 355 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: walk out the room and they're just like in this trance. 356 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: They're not gonna get stuck there. They might be there 357 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: for a little bit, but then they will realize, huh, 358 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't hear anyone talking to me, I don't send 359 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: anyone is around me. I'll just open my eyes. And 360 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: so you still have the ability to function and make 361 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: choices on your own, and you'll just come to and 362 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: you realize that, Okay, let me get up and go home. 363 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Nobody said no, want to say no, one's tending to 364 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: me anymore, So you can't get stuck. So that's one misconception. 365 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 1: The other one is that you just kind of like 366 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: tell all the truth. You know, you say things that 367 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: that you would not normally say, or you do things 368 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: that you would not normally do. So it's it's a 369 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: it's an agreement. When people say and do things in hypnosis, 370 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: it's because they want to mm hmm. You see that 371 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: in TV. Yeah, yes, saw it in the movie. Mm 372 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: hmm mm hmm. But it's a part of them that 373 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: wants to do that that you know, it allows you 374 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: to be uninhibited. So if you are a person that 375 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: would never like dance on the stage or take your 376 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: clothes off or anything like that, if someone calls you 377 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: up and and said and ask you if you want 378 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: to be hypnotized and you say yes, you're agreeing to 379 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: be uninhibited. Like you you're allowing that part of you 380 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: that needs to be expressed to be expressed because you 381 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: would not do it in your conscious state, but in 382 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: your subconscious state, your unconscious date, you'll do it because 383 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: it's like you really want to and so it gives 384 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you the space to do it. It allows you to 385 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: explore that part of yourself. M M. Why do you 386 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: think this get a bad rep? Because I feel like 387 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: from what I'm hearing from you is not what I'm 388 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: seeing on TV. Well, I think Hollywood has made it 389 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: a bad rap and given it a bad rap. Yeah, 390 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: it just needed to. I think it's started off as 391 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: um like a snake and oil kind of thing where 392 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: people would go around, um, you know, offering people like 393 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: potions and you know, get rich quick things and this 394 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: will heal you just used to just drink this magic juice, right, 395 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: So it came up in that era, and so um, 396 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: you know, people would say, oh, I can hypnotize you. 397 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Even way back when they would hypnotize people and people 398 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: would fall out, and you know, the scientists would say, oh, 399 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: that's bunk. It didn't really happen, it's fake. And so 400 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: it was always put into that kind of circus sort 401 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: of you know environment where people was just doing all 402 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: sorts of things for a quick buck. Right, But there 403 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: is there is a history that showed that some people 404 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: were like giving people different drugs or different things to 405 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: make them fall out or you know, to experience an 406 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: induced trance. And then and then I know when I 407 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: was a kid, we would grow up and see people 408 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: like walking like zombies and they would just be completely 409 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: mesmerized by something or someone, right, whether it's a their 410 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: eyeballs would be spinning, or there would be some sort 411 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: of you know watch that would go back and forth. 412 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Which I'm not saying that's a bad thing, because sometimes 413 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: I do use a pendulum, right, But back then, people 414 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: like pull out a stop watched and then all of 415 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: a sudden you would be mesmerized and you would do 416 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: whatever the person says. Well, it turns out that there 417 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: is a person named Frans Mesmer, which is where mesmerized 418 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: came from. And he yeah, and so that that term 419 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: mesmerized came from France Mesmer, and his technique was about 420 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: animal magnetism, and it it just goes. It's it's very 421 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: deep and in detailed. But people like um, Sigmund Freud 422 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: and all of those great you know, old school white 423 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: male m psychologists. You know that some many of them 424 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: tried hip hip hypnosis for a while. Um, some of 425 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: them stuck with it, some of some of them gave 426 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: it up. Um. And so it just had an interesting history, 427 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, where it was accepted and then it wasn't accepted. Well, 428 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: I think in the don't get me wrong, I don't 429 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: want to miss quote the date, but the American Psychological 430 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: Association has determined that hypnotherapist is a valid method of healing, 431 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: and so now it's accepted in the health and and 432 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: and mental health spaces as a valid technique and modality. 433 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So who would you say would be a 434 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: good candidate for hypno therapy or like what type of 435 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: conditions would they need to have or does it really matter? Yeah, 436 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: while you would be a good candidate and I lie, 437 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I kind of want I don't know. Well, 438 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: but let me say this. You asked before about the misconceptions. 439 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Let me just also say that another avenue of misconceptions 440 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: is the Black Church. M Um, and probably all churches, 441 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: not just the Black Church. I say black because that's 442 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: usually who I'm working with, but religion, religion in general, 443 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: Christianity specifically. Um, it deemed it as wrong bad, you know, 444 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: and and and and many pastors would have scripture to 445 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: support that and say, you know, and the Bible that 446 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: says don't be hypnotized by such and such and such, right, Um. 447 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: But there's also scripture and I cannot quote it right now. 448 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: I do have it in the article I've written, But 449 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: there are also scriptures and that support hypnosis and that, Um. 450 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: The Roman Catholic Church had um deemed it as appropriate. Um. 451 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, they have some terms they used to say 452 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: that they are in agreement with of it. So I 453 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: think it's just the church has pushed this notion that 454 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: no one should take over your mind kind of thing, right, 455 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: And I get that no one should take over your mind, 456 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: and that is not what I do. I don't take 457 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: over anyone's mind. I just helped them to activate and 458 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: elevate their own mind. M M. And I can't see 459 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: how anything or anybody would be against that. M M. 460 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm just curious because I do do a lot. I 461 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: do have a lot of conversations with people to talk 462 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: about like spirituality and religion. Do you think one day 463 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: black churches won't mat or just church in general won't 464 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: matter anymore? And the reason why I act that because 465 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: I feel like when it comes to like older generations, 466 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: we see the effect black churches had on them. So 467 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: now we in this new generation where you know, a 468 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: lot of things are are more accepting that churches didn't 469 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: agree with or didn't um they condone. So do you 470 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: think of actually, one day church won't matter. I don't 471 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: know that. I don't know that it won't matter. I 472 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: do know that a young a lot of the young 473 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: people are questioning and pushing back on religious ideologies um 474 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: that seem to be oppressive and accepting and judgmental in 475 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: many ways. So I think there's always going to be 476 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: a place for religion and church because it's just been 477 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: around for thousands and thousands and thousands of years. But 478 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you raise a good point. I do think 479 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a big shift in the way 480 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: people accept religion in its place in their life. Mm hmm. 481 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: Now walks through what happens during the session without hypnotizing us. 482 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay. Um. So when someone comes um, one 483 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: of the things I want to always find out out 484 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: is why do they want to be hypnotized? First of all, like, 485 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: what what is what? What is your goal? You know, 486 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: do you want to Some people say, well, I'm about 487 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: to have a dental procedure and I want to be 488 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: able to not feel the pain. Or I'm about to 489 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: give birth and I want to have my childbirth naturally, 490 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: and I want to be able to hypnotize myself so 491 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: that I can endure the discomfort. Um. Or I want 492 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: to take a major examination, but I have test anxiety 493 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: and I really want to overcome that. Right. So, these 494 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: are just examples of what people could say and I 495 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: and I. It's important that they articulate what they want 496 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: it for versus Oh, I just want to try it, 497 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: or I just want to see if it works, because 498 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: I need to have a goal. You need to have 499 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: a goal. The person needs to have a goal and 500 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: an objective. Otherwise it's not I don't know how effective 501 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: it can be. Mm hmmm. So we want to establish 502 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: a goal. UM. I'm usually gonna ask them have they 503 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: had any experience with hypnosis already? Have they done it? 504 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Did they know anyone who's had it before? What's there? 505 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: You know? What do they believe about it already? Um? 506 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: We talk about any myths or misconceptions that they may 507 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: have about it, and that way they could be clear 508 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: because I wouldn't want them to, you know, do the 509 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: work and then they're thinking about some myths that we 510 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: didn't address, right, So we want to address, um, the 511 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: myths and misconceptions. UM. I go over the three elements 512 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: of the mind, the conscious mind, the subconscious mind, and 513 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: the super conscious mind. Well, the super conscious mind is 514 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: that part of your mind that's sort of like your 515 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: higher self. Is that part of your mind that has 516 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: um an amazing amount of imagination and intelligence that kind 517 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: of links you to your higher source, whatever that is 518 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: for you, Right, It's that it's that part where you 519 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: just have this knowing. It's like a knowing nest that's 520 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: like beyond your normal just you know, like some people say, 521 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what came over me, but something just 522 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: made me not go that way, and I went this 523 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: way and then you find out a train wreck was 524 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: over there, you know. So that happens to me so 525 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: many times, doesn't Oh yes, all the time. I'm like, 526 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: all right, God, thanks for looking out. Yeah. Yeah, So 527 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: you know intuitively that that's the thing that connected you 528 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: to God. Right, So your conscious mind is what what 529 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: you are right now. You're conscious, you're alert, you're oriented, right, 530 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: you're all your five senses are intact. Your inductive and 531 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: deductive reasoning is there. So we're conscious. Your subconscious is 532 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: that thing that's underneath that. It's it's where those deeper 533 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: beliefs are embedded. Um. Your subconscious mind, it has sort 534 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: of um beliefs that are so deep that oftentimes we 535 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: can't access them. Um and sometimes they're not even congruent 536 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: with with your conscious thoughts. So, for instance, consciously, you 537 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: might tell me she said her name, y'all, I'm gonna 538 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: have to edit that out. Well, listen that conversation. I 539 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: know people gonna be emailing me, So definitely I'm gonna 540 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: be sharing your information because I know people are going 541 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: to be interested in this nervous Yeah, so I lost 542 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: my point. Okay, So so yeah, so conscious and then 543 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: the subconscious in between that is a filtering mechanism, and 544 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: that filtering mechanism UM filters in information and and and 545 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: filters out information that is not congruent with the subconscious. So, 546 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: for instance, consciously, UM, you might say, oh, I'm smart, 547 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm intelligent, I'm right, I'm a risk taker, I'm you know, bodacious, 548 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm assertive. You may say all this stuff consciously, but subconsciously, 549 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: underneath all of that could be yeah, no, I never 550 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: do what I say I'm gonna do, prastinator, I don't 551 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: feel good about myself, like all of those, all of 552 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: those other messages could be running at the same time 553 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: on a very deep and you know, subconsciou level. And 554 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: so the hypnosis speaks to the subconscious, right, and it 555 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: speaks specifically to the filtering mechanism that's between the conscious 556 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: and the subconscious mind, because that filtering mechanism will keep 557 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: information from going into the subconscious mind. And it just 558 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: it's like it's like having a gate keeper, and the 559 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: gatekeeper just keeps pushing out information it doesn't match or 560 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: isn't in alignment with what the deeper beliefs of the 561 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: subconscious mind are um and so in hypnosis, that's the 562 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: part that we want to relax. We want to relax 563 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: the gatekeeper so that a new opening can allow new 564 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: suggestions to go down into the subconscious mind to transform 565 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: those negative beliefs and thoughts. Man, where were you back? 566 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: Because you know what, I I'm getting a lot of 567 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: work done on my teeth and I hate going to 568 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: the dent I'm telling about like I cry, like I 569 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: think it was one time my denters was like I 570 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: can't do this because like I was doing, I was, 571 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: I was showing my ass off like I was doing 572 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: a lot like but I was. I just had a 573 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: really bad experience as a kid, and when I went 574 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: to her like it was just that I just can't 575 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: say I might have to hit you out because I 576 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: had to get I'm almost done the finish line. But 577 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, I get so nervous, like like i'd be 578 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: like praying. I mean even when she like touched my mouth, 579 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: I just be like, oh my god, like I just kip. Yeah. 580 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: In fact, I have a video on dental dental fears 581 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: on YouTube. M so you she was afraid to watch 582 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: videos of um dental work. No no, no, I noll 583 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: if to help people get over their dental fears. Oh okay, 584 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna look at it because my next Tuesday 585 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: and I'm getting my toothful, not Tuesday Thursday. Okay. I 586 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: think on that when I use a technique called tapping, 587 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: and that's a whole another podcast, but it's a it's 588 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: a way that you can tap on your body to 589 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: help alleviate some of the fear. You know what's so 590 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: funny I do when I'm not the dinners often I 591 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: do like this or something like, I'm always like touching 592 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: my stuff, but I'm touching my stuff like in a rhythm. Okay, yeah, okay, okay, 593 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm about to hypnotize these people. Child, Are you about 594 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: to hypnotize them? You need to hypnotize yourself. Honestly, I 595 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: hate going to the dinners. So can anyone be hypnotized? 596 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Just about just about anyone can be hypnotized. Um. Children 597 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 1: can be hypnotized very easily. Um And but I don't 598 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: work with children. But that speak because their mind is 599 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: so open and they have a great imagination, and so 600 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: they allow themselves to go places in their mind where 601 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: adults are kind of like, you know, they're gonna block themselves, 602 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna like tighten up and try to restrict certain things, 603 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: but children are more open um. Most people can be hypnotized. 604 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: There are some people with some severe and chronic mental 605 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: health disorders that is not you know, in alignment with it, 606 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: because they might already have visual or auditory hallucinations and 607 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: things like that, so it's not really a good thing 608 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: for them to do. Or some people might have cognitive 609 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: disorders and so cognitive or developmental disorders, so they may 610 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: not be good candidates. But most people are, and some 611 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: people are very Some people say they can't be hypnotize. 612 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: Some people say they're too um uh, what's the word, 613 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: they're too analytical to be hypnotized. Um. But I've had 614 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: clients that were all of that, and yeah, we we 615 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: broke through that. Sometimes it takes a little longer, but 616 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: they can be hypnotized as well. Mm hmmm. You just 617 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: have to have a willing spirit. You just have to 618 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: want to do it. If you if you want to 619 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: do it, if you're like, you know what, I want 620 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: to do it, you're gonna be able to do it. Right, 621 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: So tell us about your first time being hypnotized, Well, 622 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: my first time it was you know, when I went 623 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: to the school to learn how to do it. And yeah, 624 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: well actually I did have a session with him. He 625 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: wasn't the very first. It was with another student. So 626 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,479 Speaker 1: the students we had to hypnotize each other all day, 627 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: every day. So we did this all the time. It 628 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: was long and grueling, and we had to work on 629 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: our own problems, you know, our own real issues, real 630 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: problem thems. And then you know, and so I actually 631 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: had test anxiety for years, and so I was able 632 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: to get over my test anxiety, but when I was 633 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: actually training as a therapist, so that was super helpful. 634 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: But it was great. It was scary, you know, I 635 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: was I felt a little nervous because of course I'm 636 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: with these students and I didn't know them. Um, but um, 637 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: they made me feel comfortable. We had nice comfortable rooms 638 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: and chairs. We were able to recline back. You know, 639 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: we had blankets, we had water, all the things that 640 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: I still have in my office, you know, blankets, water, um, 641 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: soft music. But I do hypnosis online now, so I 642 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: just asked my clients to make sure that they're reclining back, 643 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: that they have some water nearby, They bring a blanket, 644 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: some pillows. Um, make you know, I tell them make 645 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: sure that no one can interrupt them. Um that the 646 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: places by it in private. Um. Yeah. I've had clients 647 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: do it in the car along as the cars cut 648 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: off and they're not in the garage where they get 649 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, get overcome by the fumes. People. A lot 650 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: of people do it in their car because it's like 651 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: you can lean back in the chair and it's insulated. 652 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: As long as they're in a safe environment. Yeah, we 653 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: can do it. Mm hmm. Has anything crazy I ever 654 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 1: happened doing your sessions? Um, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't 655 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: say good things. Uh. Well, it's always interesting. It's always 656 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: interesting because everyone is so different in the things that 657 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: people say and experience. It's just different from one person 658 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: to the next. And so I have to have a 659 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: very open mind because I might lead them and to 660 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: talk about something or to experience. You know, sometimes I'll 661 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 1: take them into a meadow or into a forest or 662 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: on too you know, a beach, or into some warm 663 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: water or whatever the thing that I'm using, the technique 664 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: that I'm using to help them reach a particular goal. 665 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: It's the people experience it so different from person to 666 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 1: person to person, and it's like it just never occurs 667 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: to Sometimes people say things that never occur to me. 668 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wow, they get things from what I 669 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: say based on their own life experiences, and sometimes it's 670 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: just it's mind blowing, it's exciting, it's creative. Sometimes it 671 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: could be scary for them, and I always tell them 672 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: it's nothing you could say that would scare me. You know, 673 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: It's nothing that you could do that would be too 674 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,439 Speaker 1: much for me. Yeah. Really, because I've I've heard it all. 675 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, of course I have not heard at all, 676 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: but you know, I've heard a lot, and I just 677 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: want people to feel comfortable because some people think, oh 678 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: that might be too much to share, or that's too deep, 679 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: or I might blow your mind, and I'm like, yeah, 680 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: I doubt it. I've heard so many things. So if 681 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: someone is interested in trying out this service or being hypnotized, 682 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: what would you move me your advice? So my advice 683 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: is I prefer well, first of all, I always interview 684 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: the person to see if they're a good match for 685 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 1: me and that I'm a good match for them. Um, 686 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 1: because everyone may not vibe with everyone right, um, But 687 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: also I want them to be really serious about their healing, 688 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: and so I don't do necessarily sample hypnosis, like oh, 689 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: I just want to try it one time, because I 690 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: don't believe that one time will do the trick. There 691 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: are some hypnotherapists and hypnotists to say they only need 692 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: one time, one session, and I just don't. That's just 693 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: not my philosophy on how it works, right. I believe 694 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: the hypnotherapy is like taking vitamin C. When you take 695 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: one vitamin C capsule and you just take it once 696 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: and you don't take it anymore, guess what's happening. You're 697 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: gonna urinate it all out in the toilet. It's gone. 698 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: But if you take it every day, it is a 699 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,959 Speaker 1: compounding effect. It builds on the on the previous day. 700 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: It builds and builds and builds into your system. And 701 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: that's how hypnosis is. It builds on the previous session. 702 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: So every time someone comes, they get better and better 703 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: at it, They go deeper and deeper. And so at 704 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: one time you're just getting to know me, You're nerve 705 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: it is, you're afraid you're gonna you know, you might 706 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: be text and so you got to really be committed 707 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: to coming multiple times. And I have different you know, 708 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 1: session amounts based on what the you know the problem 709 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 1: is m And last for nat last, I just thought 710 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: of this question. Yeah, you be hypnotized of your family absolutely. 711 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: You know your husband. Well, okay, first of all, men 712 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: when they hear that, they're like, oh my god, don't 713 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: look at me. They're always like completely afraid. And I'm like, no, 714 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 1: I have no power over you. I just bring out 715 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 1: the power in you. I bring out you right there, 716 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I'm just bringing out your power to 717 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 1: heal you. That's it. It's not me doing anything to you. 718 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: It's me using the words to help you find the 719 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: power that you already have. Right And so with my 720 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 1: children in particular, yes, I have done it to them 721 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: and with them, um since they were in I guess 722 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 1: maybe early middle school, like you know, at the beginning 723 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: of their middle school years. And um, yeah, for tests. 724 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: You know my son this story, my son was going 725 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: for a UM martial arts karate thing. He was trying 726 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,919 Speaker 1: to win this championship and he was I mean too, 727 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he would get upset with me. 728 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: I mean he was Okay, he was pretty good, but 729 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't at the top of his um of his age, 730 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, group or whatever. Yeah, now, you know we 731 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: made him feel that way, but you know, but he 732 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: was so nervous about this, this particular tournament. He was 733 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: so nervous. He didn't want to do what he thought. 734 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna get anything, he wasn't gonna win. I mean, 735 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: he was really coming down on himself. And my husband's like, 736 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: you should do some hypnosis on him, that you should 737 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: do something on him because he is just so nervous. 738 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you're right, I should. So I did, 739 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: and you know, it was just I was he had 740 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: a little session and he's I was like, okay, you 741 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: how you feel He said, I feel great. I'm like okay. 742 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: So he got out there on that floor and the 743 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: poor guy, he I mean, he pretty much ran from 744 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: the guy like they were going in circles. And my son, 745 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: my poor guy, he was just like really because the 746 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: boy he was going up against was humongous and my 747 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: son was so tiny, and they were like they were 748 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: in the same age range and maybe one or two 749 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: years apart. But the other boy must have had a 750 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: groth spur and and he was like, my son was like, 751 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: oh my god, and me and my husband were just 752 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: biting our nails. It's like, oh my god, my son 753 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 1: is gonna get hurt. Yeah, and so somehow my son 754 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: he did he you know, he threw a couple of shots, 755 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 1: he kicked a couple of times, he ran a couple 756 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: of times, you know, but he he did his best. 757 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,919 Speaker 1: And I think low and behold. The other guy got 758 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: disqualified because he went out of bounds or something. And 759 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: my baby came home with that, with that trophy, and 760 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: my husband said, see, him knows his work. But the 761 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: thing is that he is confidence because he was just 762 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: so one certain that he was not going to win. 763 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,479 Speaker 1: And he won. He won, and I was like, oh 764 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: my god. And I must say I was very nervous 765 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 1: because he did not He did not look good for him. 766 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: I didn't know how. I was like, with this hypnosis, 767 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: gotta work, and it did so so yeah, so that's 768 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 1: that's Um, that's a story of triumph. Yeah. M no, 769 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Did we connected? I think this was 770 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: an amazing conversation. Um going by so fast, definitely, Ryan, 771 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm open time. I'm like, well, we threw already like, 772 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: but it was a call for like what definitely over 773 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: forty five minutes. I can't see the time, but I'm 774 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: pretty sure people want to know more about you and 775 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: support you. So if you are interested in learning more 776 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: about our guests, or if you want to try her 777 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: service app, if she fits she feels like I would 778 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: be a good fit for each other, please make sure 779 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: to email me and hello at the PSD podcast dot com. 780 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: And if I think that you're not gonna waste her time, 781 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: I would definitely see you her way. So until next time, 782 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: everyone later, Bye bye, the first person I didn't have 783 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 1: to tell to say by. People just don't sit up 784 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: at the end like say bye and I'm later.