WEBVTT - Starring Johnny Pacar as Danny Sinclair in “Now You See It…” 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.320 Welcome everybody to this Park Copper episode of Magical Rewind. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.040 I am once again six Sabrina. It just keeps happening. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:22.160 Just get you again. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.160 This is my life. This is my life now. Is 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.160 not being able to taste or smell or anything else. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:27.520 Well, it's a good thing. You don't need to use 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:28.680 your voice very often. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:29.920 Right, which is good. It's a good thing. I don't 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.519 make a living using my voice, which is a good thing. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:34.479 Oh well, I'm sorry. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:35.840 I know it sucks. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:37.519 But you know what's gonna make me feel better is 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.440 another incredible special guest. And I think we've got one because, 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.240 as you know, we just watched d coom fave Now 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:51.919 You See It, and the star, the amazing lead magician 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:53.920 from Now You See It, has joined us today on 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.120 this Park Copper episode. I can't wait to talk to him. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:57.280 We are not going to wait any longer. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.440 Please help us. Welcome Johnny Pacar. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:03.520 Nice to meet you, guys. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.000 You as well, thank you for joining us. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.520 We're very excited to talk to you about this movie. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:10.240 And the first thing we want to know though, we 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.759 always like to ask people because we know you grew 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.720 up in Michigan, right right, and you were a big 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.080 hockey player. So how did how do you go from 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.880 growing up in Michigan and playing hockey to becoming a 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:21.640 Hollywood star? 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:22.880 Take us on that journey. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.600 I don't know. I don't know how it happens. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.840 Did you start weird right at a younger age or 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.160 was this something like you were in your hockey era 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.880 and all of a sudden, just boom, Disney Channel gives 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.600 you a call and says, hey, do you want to 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:39.160 be a big star? 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:45.880 A big star? You know, I think it just happened 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:51.360 really like organically in a weird way of Like, so 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.240 I played hockey. I was always sort of slender for 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.200 my age, you know. So as I came up through 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.880 like the youth hockey program, like all the guys were 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.800 like surpassing me, not only height, I guess I'd say 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.920 I was a late bloomer. They were passing me, and 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.679 not only height but weight as well. So here I am, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.399 you know, around my mid teens, things like that, I'm 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.240 like a five. I'm five eleven. So I was like 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.880 a file on like like one three five at the time. Okay, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.840 And so there's these guys that are just packed on muscle. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.320 They're just like and I got to the point where 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.280 I'm like, I just I don't know how much I 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.639 want to. I don't want to do this anymore, which. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:30.920 Is now dangerous, it's approaching. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.400 Yeah, this is now something that has was so fun 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.640 that's now just like such a It just wasn't fun. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.320 And it was like I loved watching it, I loved 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.720 playing it, but it was like the upkeep of of 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.600 of the training and all that other stuff. So and 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.639 then it's like, you know, you're that's saying your friends 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.960 influence you a lot. So you know, one of my 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.400 one of my good friends back then, we just got 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:56.000 really into music, and when I started playing the guitar, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.959 we started a band. So then I just didn't really 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.040 want to play hockey anymore. And in high school, my 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.720 high school had this program where it was called like 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.840 a vocational thing where you could do both high school 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.880 and certain trades and vocational things. And I went for 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.280 like film video animation at. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:15.880 The tophy great idea, so. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.280 I wanted to be like an editor. So that's how 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.760 I started off with the whole Like I got into 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.520 the sync because I loved the music, and then like 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.080 you know, I was really good with camera work. And 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.960 things like that. Funny enough, I couldn't get the zoo. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.840 So you know, back late two thousands, there was a 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.680 flatbed editor and all that other stuff, and so I 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.960 got really into like behind the scenes stuff. And then 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.000 like this movie just came through Michigan and my teacher 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.600 was like, you can get on set. You should audition 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.240 for it. And I was like, I don't want to act. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.400 I have no desire to be an actor. And he 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:50.920 was like, oh, I think you'd be great. You know 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:52.760 that you can get on set and learn about directing 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.720 and all the other stuff that you enjoyed doing. I'm like, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.240 all right, I'll give it a shot. So I wrote 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.000 this monologue myself because it's like prepare monologue. I'm like, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:04.320 what is a monologue? I ask how a monologue was? 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.240 I wrote this monologue and I was like okay. And 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.400 I got narrowed down to like three people for this 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.120 movie and I was like, oh, it's acting things kind 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.640 of fun. Go to my senior year. I'm like, I 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.360 had an elective I had to take. I'm like, I'm 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.640 gonna take drama. I'm gonna learn more about acting if 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.359 I'm going to like do behind the scenes stuff. I 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.680 gotta learn this whole acting thing. So I got into drama. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.000 And then my teacher was like, you should try to 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:33.640 go in l A for a while. And you know, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.040 I grew up in Michigan. It was cold, got tired 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.200 of the winters. I was like, you know what, and 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.080 pack it up and give it a shot and go there. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.760 If it works out, cool, If it doesn't, you know, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.520 at least I know I tried, or I tried something 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.599 that most people don't try. You know, Like back then, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.040 I was like, I'm gonna move to LA to be 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.960 an actor. They're like, what do you want to do 0:04:55.000 --> 0:05:00.279 this eight tables? Yeah, yeah, it's really funny, and so 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.240 I was like, yeah, I know, I'll give it a shot. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.920 We'll see and long story, longer story short, and so yeah, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.239 moved out here and then within a few months started 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.920 I got rolling. I got a commercial, got an agency, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:16.680 and then about probably year or two after I moved here, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.880 this agency that had a lot of youth, the Abrams 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:25.080 at the time. Yeah, yeah, genmar Yeah, Wendy Green, Gemma. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.440 They signed me and then see it came about maybe 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.560 a year after that. So wow, that was the journey, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.599 and like little things here and there in the hustle 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.279 and acting class, and sure the group of friends, which 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.240 surprised I haven't met all you before because this industry 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.719 is so small, but yet this town's so large. And 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.200 so we had this little acting click in house parties 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.520 because we all weren't twenty one yet, so it was 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.479 just we just went out and did the thing. But so, yeah, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.320 so I got now you see. I was actually supposed 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.279 to do a different Disney Channel before Now you See It, 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.400 and then I scheduling stuff fell through. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.440 Which one were you supposed to do? You remember it was. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:08.039 Called Zenon of course. Yeah, it was called. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.680 The third of the franchise. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.719 Wow, we haven't gotten there yet, but we watched the 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.599 first one. Yeah, we've we've interviewed to do the guy 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:23.440 that that and yeah, wow, that's incredible. That'd have been 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.960 amazing to do too. What a great movie that woud 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:26.200 have been. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.080 Yeah, But then I think if I would have done 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.560 that one, would I have gone to do now you 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.200 See It? Because you know Disney Channel sometimes sometimes they'll 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.159 keep using you and sometimes. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.560 They don't you too close, too close to home. 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.360 Yeah, so it's like, oh, we know him from that, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.720 so like and now you see it for me was 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.360 when I went in for it, like I read with Ali, 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.240 and just the concept of the movie was just the 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.719 magic was so cool. And they hired a magician to 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.479 like teach me stuff and Franklin Jella, who I really 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.000 enjoy Yeah, And so I was like, dude, I get 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.200 to work with Franklin Cello. So on the flip side 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.279 of had I done xenon what I've got? The experience 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.160 we shot New Orleans, it was like really cool. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.960 Yeah, well that so were you a fan of magic 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.680 before you got this this role or was this a 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.160 world that they kind of opened up for you. 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.320 Opened it up? Yeah, I was a fan of it, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.720 but I didn't study it or try to learn magic. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.760 You know, maybe the simple card trick here and there 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.120 that you see your friends doing. But no, I was 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.360 always fascinated. But I'm still fascinated by it. And when 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.880 they hired this magician, the teacher, he took me out 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.120 like the Magic Castle that was really cool places and 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.160 I was just floored. 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.280 Do you remember his name by the chats, Bobby Borgia? 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:44.320 Okay, cool? 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.600 Yeah, And he came and just yeah, he was really cool. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.440 And then they flew him the set to like teaches 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.120 some stuff. But the funny thing is is he went 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.920 through this teaching me all this stuff, and then I 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:02.000 didn't They didn't use any of it, right, right, So 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:03.360 you know. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:04.720 What's crazy is wee. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.360 That's sort of something we keep coming across, like when 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:11.000 we you know, interviewed, uh, some of the actors that 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.560 have been in a movie of let's say, like they're 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.040 supposed to ice, skate or be hockey players, and they 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:19.040 like go through this rigorous training and it says and 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.600 then they end up getting stunt doubles anyway and like 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.920 use nothing of what the actors are except for that 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.680 full like headshot face, which they could have already done 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.760 anyway without learning any kind of you know, skating. So 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.600 it's interesting how they'll they'll try or for whatever reason, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.320 they go against all the training that they make you 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:37.800 go through. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.760 Yeah, yeah, it's it's I feel like maybe it's a well, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:43.839 just in case. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.640 Case we need you to actually be a magician, we're 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:52.360 going to put you through the magician school, but somebody else, in. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.120 Case the director wants to close down you doing this 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.600 card trick, you gotta know it, or if it's a 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.160 hockey like we need to see you skate and stop 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.559 and shoot the puck a little bit. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.720 So yeah, I think it's cool though that because like 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.600 one of the things we're seeing are these like micro worlds, 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.839 and I think it's cool for you to learn because 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.920 I'm sure that helped you as an actor really, you know, 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.800 dive into this kid who's super into magic, like this 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.719 is like his world and is you know, what he's 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.080 being called to do. So I'm sure that helped you too, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.000 like just to really dive into this world you had 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.920 nothing like no prior experience with. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.720 Yes, yes, very much so. And I think that's what 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.840 That's what I liked about it because in that mind 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.560 frame too where I was at that time, I wanted 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.280 really cool interesting things, as everybody does. You know, you 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:42.960 move out here, you think you're gonna be like Johnny 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.920 Depp or something like, I want to play all these 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.120 eccentric roles, right, And so I was like, oh, it's 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.280 a really cool dark magic movie. I can I can 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.480 only do so much that they'll let me do. But 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.160 you know, so yeah, but what you yeah, what you said, 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.720 it let me go completely off off the map of 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.320 what I was used to, like a world that I 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.640 didn't know that I can kind of explore and learn, 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.000 and going to the Magic Castle and learning all that 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.160 stuff and seeing these guys and how they present themselves 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.120 and and so it was. It was a really neat experience. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.360 In Frank, who's a very interesting you know, he's a 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:23.880 stage actor, was very uh. He took a sort of 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.360 like all the especially all the guys there's you know, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.400 all the guys in the movie. He would take us 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.200 out in New Orleans and like like, you know, go 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.120 to movies and stuff and tell us all these cool stories. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.400 And his process to acting was really cool, Like he 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.000 never learned his lines the night before. He wrote him 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.440 down on a napkin and his trailer every morning and 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.920 kept him in his pocket. So whenever he would flow 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:45.240 up a. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:51.520 Line, it was a very calm geez. And so he 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.640 put his napkin back in his pocket, naked a napkin. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.599 He was like, I don't go over my stuff in 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:58.080 the morning. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.000 I don't write it. He's like, I write it down 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.400 in the trailer every morning, or I don't go over 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.480 myself at night. I write down on a napkin a 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.400 trailer every morning. And we walked a set sometimes and 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.120 it'd have his napkin with all thought. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.640 One of the things that we noticed a lot about 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.319 most of the dcoms is they tend to be shot 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.920 either in Utah or in Canada. So you are in 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.160 one of the special ones is shooting in New Orleans. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.040 We heard you had to evacuate at one point because 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.000 of the hurricane. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:32.720 Yeah, that's true. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.760 So can you tell us what's going on as you're shooting? 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.120 And then next thing it's like, all right, we got 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:38.680 we got a bail. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:39.560 What's what's up. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.440 Yeah. So I had a feeling that story would come up, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.720 and if it didn't, I was gonna tell it. So yeah, 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.920 So we weren't even shooting that, so they had flown 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.200 us out. We had been there, and this is one 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:55.040 year prior to Katrina. So they flew us out there 0:11:55.640 --> 0:12:01.440 and we went through wardrobe, camera testing and all that stuff, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.480 and they're like, well, this hurricane's coming, we might have 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:10.080 to evacuate. And this is before we even shot any scenes. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.640 So we were supposed to shoot that following every Monday, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.120 and the hurricane kind of came in that weekend, so 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.760 I think it was Sunday morning. They're like, they want us, 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.959 they want us out of here, and so what happened 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.319 was in the hotel we were staying at there was 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.280 another Disney movie called Glory Road and there was a 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.719 bigger budget movie. Josh and Lucas I think was in it. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.280 And so they had the two of us here cluttering 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.440 a hobby of the hotel. They're like, Disney's got us 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:44.240 a little a small bus so to speak. They're driving 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:48.120 us to Baton Rouge, which shouldn't take very long. Normally 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.160 took us six and a half hours. And so we 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.160 get to Baton Rouge. We're at the airport at like 0:12:56.200 --> 0:13:01.520 two o'clock in the morning and Josh, Lucas and a 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.120 bunch of the castmates have a guitar. It's like this 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.720 airport's desolate except for us, and I had my guitar 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.520 because you know, we were just Alley's was singing along 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.000 and he comes over and he's like, yeah, I should 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.640 just join our little jam circle year and so so 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.320 there's like just people playing guitars in the airport and 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.439 bad Rouge and then they fly us to Dallas. We 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.360 get to Dallas, spend the night, fly back to la 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:34.240 literally twenty four hours later. All Right, it's passed. Never 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:38.680 really hit back on, back out and he started shooting. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.280 Oh man, but. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.000 They had to take that proption. But it was of. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.160 Course, of course, yeah, yeah, better safe than sorry. But 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:46.480 how did that? I mean, so then how did the 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:47.880 shoot go? Was the rest of the shoot kind of 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.160 smooth or everything. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.240 Else was great? Hot? Really hot? So that was you know, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:59.520 it was August September, October of Yeah, ninety degrees with humidity. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.600 The main set you guys were on, was that an 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:07.079 actual building or was that like a made a made upset? 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.760 It was it was an old bank because it looked 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.000 so cool that, I mean, the just architecture that you 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.760 guys were like surrounded by, it looks just awesome. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:22.240 Yeah. One was one was a castle. The exteriors there 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.520 was this not cap it was like this really cool building, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.120 and then the interiors of where like a lot of 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:30.960 the magic shows and stuff. That was a bank. Yeah, 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.560 they converted this old bank that I guess a lot 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:34.520 of movies shot there. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.880 Wow, it looked cool. I loved the when you guys 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:38.600 were in. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.440 The vault room. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.960 The vault room that looked so rad. I was like, wow, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:47.560 it does make sense. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.360 It's kind of perfect for for what you're going. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.600 It brought such a great, like eerie just kind of 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.600 like real mysterious vibe. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:56.400 I loved it. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.320 Yeah, and that director in DP, Dwayne Donald. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.840 I was just about to ask you about him, dude. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.480 He was so good. He was very well. He was 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:06.040 an editor. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:07.720 That's what I was gonna ask, is do you did 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.840 did you get to talk about I mean he edited 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:10.760 Return of the Jedi? 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.600 Yeah, so he he So it was you know, this 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.320 was still one of my first projects, so to speak. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:18.960 I had done a couple of guest spots, you know, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:23.760 here and there, and so he was like things moved. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:28.520 He was really intense, really intense, and things moved really fast. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.080 So there was times where I was like, I mean, 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:36.600 is he is that good? Are redone? Yes? Redone? And 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.600 then you know he'd come in and I'm like, God, 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.080 there's probably more we're gonna do. And he was. He 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.560 was like his editing mind through the whole shoot. He 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.160 was like, no, I don't need that because here, it's 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.640 gonna come in here, I got a two shot here, 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.840 I'm gonna cut right here, so that's just gonna be gone. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.440 And he was like cutting the movie while he was 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:52.840 shooting it. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.200 I think apparently it's the same way where it's just 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:56.520 like he's like, you do it twice. He's like, no, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.080 I got I'll do it at editing. Don't worry, I 0:15:58.320 --> 0:15:59.960 do it editing editing. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:01.520 Yeah, I don't need that. I'm not going to use it. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.440 I don't need that angle. It doesn't work. You know. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:04.520 It's like they already know. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.000 Hard to keep focused though, because you're like, are you sure? 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.360 Because did I am? I? Okay? Was that okay? 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:13.960 Yeah? 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:15.520 Like I probably could do it better if you just 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.400 give me like one more shot. You know, they're like no, no, no, 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:17.720 you're good. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.720 No, we're good. We got it. It's like, all right, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.880 that's that's scary. But okay, I. 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.640 Know they're so blunt. They're like, we're not going to 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.600 use that take. It wasn't that good anyway. So we 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:27.440 got the first one. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.640 I've had directors do that. I've had them do that. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:29.960 I had. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.640 I had one director that was after certain takes would 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:33.520 just go are you kidding me? 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:34.600 Really? 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.200 Are you kidding me? It's like all right, sorry, y 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:38.400 try that again. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.280 So we always like to ask growing up in Michigan 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.000 playing hockey, were you a Disney fan when you were 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:45.520 growing up or was this something. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.160 That you didn't because a lot of people. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.840 When they step into the world of especially D coms, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.520 don't really know what they're getting into. Some are like, 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.640 it's all I've wanted to do, Like Sabrina was like, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.480 I wanted to be in a D com. It's all 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.120 I wanted to do. I knew the world I was 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:59.560 getting into. And there's some people that are like, I 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.320 had no idea, what the hell I'm stepping into? 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.000 Which camp were you in? 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:04.520 Uh? 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:10.080 A little in between, maybe I had an idea. I 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.240 wasn't because, like I said, I never really wanted to act, 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.080 So it was like I was never like, oh, I 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.560 want to just be in a D com and so, 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.080 but yet I would watch I had seen some along 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.560 the way, like you know, not too long before, you'd 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.680 just be flipping through the channel symptimes like oh, what's 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.080 this movie like that? I saw one with my name. Man, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:38.520 I'm like Johnny Tsunami, So I was like, oh, you 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:39.320 have the same name. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.159 Yeah, yeah, it's a good one. I was one of 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.679 my favorites. And and honestly too, if you had the 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.719 Disney channel, if you were flipping by it at all times, 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.400 chances are a d COM was on because they were 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:54.359 playing those guys on repeat, just over and over again, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:55.960 putting in the shows here and there. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.840 But it was such a heavy enforce. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.640 Of dcom's constant so you definitely caught some good ones, 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.280 especially right around. 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:05.480 This movie was done in. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.800 Either before or during two thousand and five, so like 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.959 any height, yeah, six seven years prior to that. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.560 I mean, it was just decombination. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:16.320 It was just awesome. 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:20.399 Yeah, good time, good time to watch TV, great time. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.399 I feel like there was a rollerblading one too, I 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:28.760 really yeah, titles, but like I'm saying, like you see 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.359 those things and I saw the Mighty Ducks movies growing up, 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:37.680 so sometimes beyond Disney channels. Yeah, but uh but yeah, 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.280 So it was a world that was familiar but not 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.840 brid you know, trajectory or objective. 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.880 Before I ask you when you guys first met had 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.119 you known Ali at all? Or was like your guys' 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.880 first meet the first time you ever really heard about her? 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:58.439 First time? And while you were filming the first cuts 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.320 of her for their first album okay, they were getting 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.960 while we were on set, oh cool, Okay, and her 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.399 mom was sort of playing it for people in the 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.920