Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to this Park Copper episode of Magical Rewind.
Speaker 2: I am once again six Sabrina. It just keeps happening.
Speaker 3: Just get you again.
Speaker 1: This is my life. This is my life now. Is
Speaker 1: not being able to taste or smell or anything else.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a good thing. You don't need to use
Speaker 3: your voice very often.
Speaker 2: Right, which is good. It's a good thing. I don't
Speaker 2: make a living using my voice, which is a good thing.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I know it sucks.
Speaker 1: But you know what's gonna make me feel better is
Speaker 1: another incredible special guest. And I think we've got one because,
Speaker 1: as you know, we just watched d coom fave Now
Speaker 1: You See It, and the star, the amazing lead magician
Speaker 1: from Now You See It, has joined us today on
Speaker 1: this Park Copper episode. I can't wait to talk to him.
Speaker 1: We are not going to wait any longer.
Speaker 2: Please help us. Welcome Johnny Pacar.
Speaker 4: Nice to meet you, guys.
Speaker 2: You as well, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: We're very excited to talk to you about this movie.
Speaker 1: And the first thing we want to know though, we
Speaker 1: always like to ask people because we know you grew
Speaker 1: up in Michigan, right right, and you were a big
Speaker 1: hockey player. So how did how do you go from
Speaker 1: growing up in Michigan and playing hockey to becoming a
Speaker 1: Hollywood star?
Speaker 2: Take us on that journey.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know how it happens.
Speaker 5: Did you start weird right at a younger age or
Speaker 5: was this something like you were in your hockey era
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, just boom, Disney Channel gives
Speaker 5: you a call and says, hey, do you want to
Speaker 5: be a big star?
Speaker 4: A big star? You know, I think it just happened
Speaker 4: really like organically in a weird way of Like, so
Speaker 4: I played hockey. I was always sort of slender for
Speaker 4: my age, you know. So as I came up through
Speaker 4: like the youth hockey program, like all the guys were
Speaker 4: like surpassing me, not only height, I guess I'd say
Speaker 4: I was a late bloomer. They were passing me, and
Speaker 4: not only height but weight as well. So here I am,
Speaker 4: you know, around my mid teens, things like that, I'm
Speaker 4: like a five. I'm five eleven. So I was like
Speaker 4: a file on like like one three five at the time. Okay,
Speaker 4: And so there's these guys that are just packed on muscle.
Speaker 4: They're just like and I got to the point where
Speaker 4: I'm like, I just I don't know how much I
Speaker 4: want to. I don't want to do this anymore, which.
Speaker 2: Is now dangerous, it's approaching.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is now something that has was so fun
Speaker 4: that's now just like such a It just wasn't fun.
Speaker 4: And it was like I loved watching it, I loved
Speaker 4: playing it, but it was like the upkeep of of
Speaker 4: of the training and all that other stuff. So and
Speaker 4: then it's like, you know, you're that's saying your friends
Speaker 4: influence you a lot. So you know, one of my
Speaker 4: one of my good friends back then, we just got
Speaker 4: really into music, and when I started playing the guitar,
Speaker 4: we started a band. So then I just didn't really
Speaker 4: want to play hockey anymore. And in high school, my
Speaker 4: high school had this program where it was called like
Speaker 4: a vocational thing where you could do both high school
Speaker 4: and certain trades and vocational things. And I went for
Speaker 4: like film video animation at.
Speaker 2: The tophy great idea, so.
Speaker 4: I wanted to be like an editor. So that's how
Speaker 4: I started off with the whole Like I got into
Speaker 4: the sync because I loved the music, and then like
Speaker 4: you know, I was really good with camera work. And
Speaker 4: things like that. Funny enough, I couldn't get the zoo.
Speaker 4: So you know, back late two thousands, there was a
Speaker 4: flatbed editor and all that other stuff, and so I
Speaker 4: got really into like behind the scenes stuff. And then
Speaker 4: like this movie just came through Michigan and my teacher
Speaker 4: was like, you can get on set. You should audition
Speaker 4: for it. And I was like, I don't want to act.
Speaker 4: I have no desire to be an actor. And he
Speaker 4: was like, oh, I think you'd be great. You know
Speaker 4: that you can get on set and learn about directing
Speaker 4: and all the other stuff that you enjoyed doing. I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, I'll give it a shot. So I wrote
Speaker 4: this monologue myself because it's like prepare monologue. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what is a monologue? I ask how a monologue was?
Speaker 4: I wrote this monologue and I was like okay. And
Speaker 4: I got narrowed down to like three people for this
Speaker 4: movie and I was like, oh, it's acting things kind
Speaker 4: of fun. Go to my senior year. I'm like, I
Speaker 4: had an elective I had to take. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna take drama. I'm gonna learn more about acting if
Speaker 4: I'm going to like do behind the scenes stuff. I
Speaker 4: gotta learn this whole acting thing. So I got into drama.
Speaker 4: And then my teacher was like, you should try to
Speaker 4: go in l A for a while. And you know,
Speaker 4: I grew up in Michigan. It was cold, got tired
Speaker 4: of the winters. I was like, you know what, and
Speaker 4: pack it up and give it a shot and go there.
Speaker 4: If it works out, cool, If it doesn't, you know,
Speaker 4: at least I know I tried, or I tried something
Speaker 4: that most people don't try. You know, Like back then,
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm gonna move to LA to be
Speaker 4: an actor. They're like, what do you want to do
Speaker 4: this eight tables? Yeah, yeah, it's really funny, and so
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I know, I'll give it a shot.
Speaker 4: We'll see and long story, longer story short, and so yeah,
Speaker 4: moved out here and then within a few months started
Speaker 4: I got rolling. I got a commercial, got an agency,
Speaker 4: and then about probably year or two after I moved here,
Speaker 4: this agency that had a lot of youth, the Abrams
Speaker 4: at the time. Yeah, yeah, genmar Yeah, Wendy Green, Gemma.
Speaker 4: They signed me and then see it came about maybe
Speaker 4: a year after that. So wow, that was the journey,
Speaker 4: and like little things here and there in the hustle
Speaker 4: and acting class, and sure the group of friends, which
Speaker 4: surprised I haven't met all you before because this industry
Speaker 4: is so small, but yet this town's so large. And
Speaker 4: so we had this little acting click in house parties
Speaker 4: because we all weren't twenty one yet, so it was
Speaker 4: just we just went out and did the thing. But so, yeah,
Speaker 4: so I got now you see. I was actually supposed
Speaker 4: to do a different Disney Channel before Now you See It,
Speaker 4: and then I scheduling stuff fell through.
Speaker 2: Which one were you supposed to do? You remember it was.
Speaker 4: Called Zenon of course. Yeah, it was called.
Speaker 3: The third of the franchise.
Speaker 5: Wow, we haven't gotten there yet, but we watched the
Speaker 5: first one. Yeah, we've we've interviewed to do the guy
Speaker 5: that that and yeah, wow, that's incredible. That'd have been
Speaker 5: amazing to do too. What a great movie that woud
Speaker 5: have been.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But then I think if I would have done
Speaker 4: that one, would I have gone to do now you
Speaker 4: See It? Because you know Disney Channel sometimes sometimes they'll
Speaker 4: keep using you and sometimes.
Speaker 3: They don't you too close, too close to home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like, oh, we know him from that,
Speaker 4: so like and now you see it for me was
Speaker 4: when I went in for it, like I read with Ali,
Speaker 4: and just the concept of the movie was just the
Speaker 4: magic was so cool. And they hired a magician to
Speaker 4: like teach me stuff and Franklin Jella, who I really
Speaker 4: enjoy Yeah, And so I was like, dude, I get
Speaker 4: to work with Franklin Cello. So on the flip side
Speaker 4: of had I done xenon what I've got? The experience
Speaker 4: we shot New Orleans, it was like really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that so were you a fan of magic
Speaker 1: before you got this this role or was this a
Speaker 1: world that they kind of opened up for you.
Speaker 4: Opened it up? Yeah, I was a fan of it,
Speaker 4: but I didn't study it or try to learn magic.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe the simple card trick here and there
Speaker 4: that you see your friends doing. But no, I was
Speaker 4: always fascinated. But I'm still fascinated by it. And when
Speaker 4: they hired this magician, the teacher, he took me out
Speaker 4: like the Magic Castle that was really cool places and
Speaker 4: I was just floored.
Speaker 1: Do you remember his name by the chats, Bobby Borgia?
Speaker 2: Okay, cool?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he came and just yeah, he was really cool.
Speaker 4: And then they flew him the set to like teaches
Speaker 4: some stuff. But the funny thing is is he went
Speaker 4: through this teaching me all this stuff, and then I
Speaker 4: didn't They didn't use any of it, right, right, So
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: What's crazy is wee.
Speaker 5: That's sort of something we keep coming across, like when
Speaker 5: we you know, interviewed, uh, some of the actors that
Speaker 5: have been in a movie of let's say, like they're
Speaker 5: supposed to ice, skate or be hockey players, and they
Speaker 5: like go through this rigorous training and it says and
Speaker 5: then they end up getting stunt doubles anyway and like
Speaker 5: use nothing of what the actors are except for that
Speaker 5: full like headshot face, which they could have already done
Speaker 5: anyway without learning any kind of you know, skating. So
Speaker 5: it's interesting how they'll they'll try or for whatever reason,
Speaker 5: they go against all the training that they make you
Speaker 5: go through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's I feel like maybe it's a well,
Speaker 4: just in case.
Speaker 1: Case we need you to actually be a magician, we're
Speaker 1: going to put you through the magician school, but somebody else, in.
Speaker 4: Case the director wants to close down you doing this
Speaker 4: card trick, you gotta know it, or if it's a
Speaker 4: hockey like we need to see you skate and stop
Speaker 4: and shoot the puck a little bit.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think it's cool though that because like
Speaker 5: one of the things we're seeing are these like micro worlds,
Speaker 5: and I think it's cool for you to learn because
Speaker 5: I'm sure that helped you as an actor really, you know,
Speaker 5: dive into this kid who's super into magic, like this
Speaker 5: is like his world and is you know, what he's
Speaker 5: being called to do. So I'm sure that helped you too,
Speaker 5: like just to really dive into this world you had
Speaker 5: nothing like no prior experience with.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, very much so. And I think that's what
Speaker 4: That's what I liked about it because in that mind
Speaker 4: frame too where I was at that time, I wanted
Speaker 4: really cool interesting things, as everybody does. You know, you
Speaker 4: move out here, you think you're gonna be like Johnny
Speaker 4: Depp or something like, I want to play all these
Speaker 4: eccentric roles, right, And so I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 4: a really cool dark magic movie. I can I can
Speaker 4: only do so much that they'll let me do. But
Speaker 4: you know, so yeah, but what you yeah, what you said,
Speaker 4: it let me go completely off off the map of
Speaker 4: what I was used to, like a world that I
Speaker 4: didn't know that I can kind of explore and learn,
Speaker 4: and going to the Magic Castle and learning all that
Speaker 4: stuff and seeing these guys and how they present themselves
Speaker 4: and and so it was. It was a really neat experience.
Speaker 4: In Frank, who's a very interesting you know, he's a
Speaker 4: stage actor, was very uh. He took a sort of
Speaker 4: like all the especially all the guys there's you know,
Speaker 4: all the guys in the movie. He would take us
Speaker 4: out in New Orleans and like like, you know, go
Speaker 4: to movies and stuff and tell us all these cool stories.
Speaker 4: And his process to acting was really cool, Like he
Speaker 4: never learned his lines the night before. He wrote him
Speaker 4: down on a napkin and his trailer every morning and
Speaker 4: kept him in his pocket. So whenever he would flow
Speaker 4: up a.
Speaker 6: Line, it was a very calm geez. And so he
Speaker 6: put his napkin back in his pocket, naked a napkin.
Speaker 6: He was like, I don't go over my stuff in
Speaker 6: the morning.
Speaker 4: I don't write it. He's like, I write it down
Speaker 4: in the trailer every morning, or I don't go over
Speaker 4: myself at night. I write down on a napkin a
Speaker 4: trailer every morning. And we walked a set sometimes and
Speaker 4: it'd have his napkin with all thought.
Speaker 1: One of the things that we noticed a lot about
Speaker 1: most of the dcoms is they tend to be shot
Speaker 1: either in Utah or in Canada. So you are in
Speaker 1: one of the special ones is shooting in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: We heard you had to evacuate at one point because
Speaker 1: of the hurricane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: So can you tell us what's going on as you're shooting?
Speaker 1: And then next thing it's like, all right, we got
Speaker 1: we got a bail.
Speaker 2: What's what's up.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I had a feeling that story would come up,
Speaker 4: and if it didn't, I was gonna tell it. So yeah,
Speaker 4: So we weren't even shooting that, so they had flown
Speaker 4: us out. We had been there, and this is one
Speaker 4: year prior to Katrina. So they flew us out there
Speaker 4: and we went through wardrobe, camera testing and all that stuff,
Speaker 4: and they're like, well, this hurricane's coming, we might have
Speaker 4: to evacuate. And this is before we even shot any scenes.
Speaker 4: So we were supposed to shoot that following every Monday,
Speaker 4: and the hurricane kind of came in that weekend, so
Speaker 4: I think it was Sunday morning. They're like, they want us,
Speaker 4: they want us out of here, and so what happened
Speaker 4: was in the hotel we were staying at there was
Speaker 4: another Disney movie called Glory Road and there was a
Speaker 4: bigger budget movie. Josh and Lucas I think was in it.
Speaker 4: And so they had the two of us here cluttering
Speaker 4: a hobby of the hotel. They're like, Disney's got us
Speaker 4: a little a small bus so to speak. They're driving
Speaker 4: us to Baton Rouge, which shouldn't take very long. Normally
Speaker 4: took us six and a half hours. And so we
Speaker 4: get to Baton Rouge. We're at the airport at like
Speaker 4: two o'clock in the morning and Josh, Lucas and a
Speaker 4: bunch of the castmates have a guitar. It's like this
Speaker 4: airport's desolate except for us, and I had my guitar
Speaker 4: because you know, we were just Alley's was singing along
Speaker 4: and he comes over and he's like, yeah, I should
Speaker 4: just join our little jam circle year and so so
Speaker 4: there's like just people playing guitars in the airport and
Speaker 4: bad Rouge and then they fly us to Dallas. We
Speaker 4: get to Dallas, spend the night, fly back to la
Speaker 4: literally twenty four hours later. All Right, it's passed. Never
Speaker 4: really hit back on, back out and he started shooting.
Speaker 2: Oh man, but.
Speaker 4: They had to take that proption. But it was of.
Speaker 2: Course, of course, yeah, yeah, better safe than sorry. But
Speaker 2: how did that? I mean, so then how did the
Speaker 2: shoot go? Was the rest of the shoot kind of
Speaker 2: smooth or everything.
Speaker 4: Else was great? Hot? Really hot? So that was you know,
Speaker 4: it was August September, October of Yeah, ninety degrees with humidity.
Speaker 5: The main set you guys were on, was that an
Speaker 5: actual building or was that like a made a made upset?
Speaker 5: It was it was an old bank because it looked
Speaker 5: so cool that, I mean, the just architecture that you
Speaker 5: guys were like surrounded by, it looks just awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah. One was one was a castle. The exteriors there
Speaker 4: was this not cap it was like this really cool building,
Speaker 4: and then the interiors of where like a lot of
Speaker 4: the magic shows and stuff. That was a bank. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they converted this old bank that I guess a lot
Speaker 4: of movies shot there.
Speaker 5: Wow, it looked cool. I loved the when you guys
Speaker 5: were in.
Speaker 2: The vault room.
Speaker 5: The vault room that looked so rad. I was like, wow,
Speaker 5: it does make sense.
Speaker 2: It's kind of perfect for for what you're going.
Speaker 5: It brought such a great, like eerie just kind of
Speaker 5: like real mysterious vibe.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that director in DP, Dwayne Donald.
Speaker 2: I was just about to ask you about him, dude.
Speaker 4: He was so good. He was very well. He was
Speaker 4: an editor.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna ask, is do you did
Speaker 1: did you get to talk about I mean he edited
Speaker 1: Return of the Jedi?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he he So it was you know, this
Speaker 4: was still one of my first projects, so to speak.
Speaker 4: I had done a couple of guest spots, you know,
Speaker 4: here and there, and so he was like things moved.
Speaker 4: He was really intense, really intense, and things moved really fast.
Speaker 4: So there was times where I was like, I mean,
Speaker 4: is he is that good? Are redone? Yes? Redone? And
Speaker 4: then you know he'd come in and I'm like, God,
Speaker 4: there's probably more we're gonna do. And he was. He
Speaker 4: was like his editing mind through the whole shoot. He
Speaker 4: was like, no, I don't need that because here, it's
Speaker 4: gonna come in here, I got a two shot here,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut right here, so that's just gonna be gone.
Speaker 4: And he was like cutting the movie while he was
Speaker 4: shooting it.
Speaker 1: I think apparently it's the same way where it's just
Speaker 1: like he's like, you do it twice. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I got I'll do it at editing. Don't worry, I
Speaker 1: do it editing editing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't need that. I'm not going to use it.
Speaker 4: I don't need that angle. It doesn't work. You know.
Speaker 4: It's like they already know.
Speaker 3: Hard to keep focused though, because you're like, are you sure?
Speaker 3: Because did I am? I? Okay? Was that okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like I probably could do it better if you just
Speaker 3: give me like one more shot. You know, they're like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: you're good.
Speaker 2: No, we're good. We got it. It's like, all right,
Speaker 2: that's that's scary. But okay, I.
Speaker 4: Know they're so blunt. They're like, we're not going to
Speaker 4: use that take. It wasn't that good anyway. So we
Speaker 4: got the first one.
Speaker 2: I've had directors do that. I've had them do that.
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 1: I had one director that was after certain takes would
Speaker 1: just go are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? It's like all right, sorry, y
Speaker 2: try that again.
Speaker 1: So we always like to ask growing up in Michigan
Speaker 1: playing hockey, were you a Disney fan when you were
Speaker 1: growing up or was this something.
Speaker 2: That you didn't because a lot of people.
Speaker 1: When they step into the world of especially D coms,
Speaker 1: don't really know what they're getting into. Some are like,
Speaker 1: it's all I've wanted to do, Like Sabrina was like,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in a D com. It's all
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I knew the world I was
Speaker 1: getting into. And there's some people that are like, I
Speaker 1: had no idea, what the hell I'm stepping into?
Speaker 2: Which camp were you in?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: A little in between, maybe I had an idea. I
Speaker 4: wasn't because, like I said, I never really wanted to act,
Speaker 4: So it was like I was never like, oh, I
Speaker 4: want to just be in a D com and so,
Speaker 4: but yet I would watch I had seen some along
Speaker 4: the way, like you know, not too long before, you'd
Speaker 4: just be flipping through the channel symptimes like oh, what's
Speaker 4: this movie like that? I saw one with my name. Man,
Speaker 4: I'm like Johnny Tsunami, So I was like, oh, you
Speaker 4: have the same name.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a good one. I was one of
Speaker 5: my favorites. And and honestly too, if you had the
Speaker 5: Disney channel, if you were flipping by it at all times,
Speaker 5: chances are a d COM was on because they were
Speaker 5: playing those guys on repeat, just over and over again,
Speaker 5: putting in the shows here and there.
Speaker 3: But it was such a heavy enforce.
Speaker 5: Of dcom's constant so you definitely caught some good ones,
Speaker 5: especially right around.
Speaker 3: This movie was done in.
Speaker 5: Either before or during two thousand and five, so like
Speaker 5: any height, yeah, six seven years prior to that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just decombination.
Speaker 2: It was just awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good time, good time to watch TV, great time.
Speaker 4: I feel like there was a rollerblading one too, I
Speaker 4: really yeah, titles, but like I'm saying, like you see
Speaker 4: those things and I saw the Mighty Ducks movies growing up,
Speaker 4: so sometimes beyond Disney channels. Yeah, but uh but yeah,
Speaker 4: So it was a world that was familiar but not
Speaker 4: brid you know, trajectory or objective.
Speaker 5: Before I ask you when you guys first met had
Speaker 5: you known Ali at all? Or was like your guys'
Speaker 5: first meet the first time you ever really heard about her?
Speaker 4: First time? And while you were filming the first cuts
Speaker 4: of her for their first album okay, they were getting
Speaker 4: while we were on set, oh cool, Okay, and her
Speaker 4: mom was sort of playing it for people in the
Speaker 4: cast and crew and things like that, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: Ali's like she's like yeah, and her sister putting on
Speaker 4: an album, and and she was like Ali was like,
Speaker 4: here's what I'll say about Ali. She was she's like
Speaker 4: fifteen or sixteen at the time, but yet very mature
Speaker 4: for her age. I feel like, kind of like an
Speaker 4: old soul in a sense where she wasn't like that,
Speaker 4: like she down played a lot of stuff. So can
Speaker 4: you guys have a band? You hear your sister putting
Speaker 4: out a record, She's like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's cool,
Speaker 4: it'll be fun, not like, oh my god, you should
Speaker 4: hear our album.
Speaker 2: And she was just so.
Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, definitely mature.
Speaker 4: Yeah, cool, yeah, it's it sounds good so far. We'll
Speaker 4: let you hear some of the songs. So for this
Speaker 4: scene and back in the movie. So it was like
Speaker 4: she was like I will say she and even in
Speaker 4: an audition, and apparently I learned later on we just
Speaker 4: like maybe our acting style just played off each other
Speaker 4: pretty well. You know, I don't know, but you know
Speaker 4: her her mom was like yeah, with you know, when
Speaker 4: they narrowed down the guys, you know, you were you
Speaker 4: were her choice. And I was like and so I
Speaker 4: thanked her. I was like, oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Like they got they they asked her who, so who
Speaker 4: do you want? Who do you want to give? Yeah,
Speaker 4: and she was like you're audhere so good and like
Speaker 4: you know so and I was like, oh, thanks likewise
Speaker 4: and so we just like you know, it was it
Speaker 4: was cool. She was really cool. And then then I
Speaker 4: after that movie wrapped, we sort of I would see
Speaker 4: her at like events and things like that. But and
Speaker 4: then she and her sister kind of like took off
Speaker 4: with the movies and stuff, and I guess they had
Speaker 4: talked about doing a sequel.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what we wanted to ask you about.
Speaker 1: There's a similar apparently that was called now you Don't Ye,
Speaker 1: Now you see Me and then now you Don't Had
Speaker 1: you heard about this when you were filming or no.
Speaker 4: It was afterwards they were going to do a sequel. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I think she wanted to do music, or she
Speaker 4: wanted to do a different project that she Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there was another another project that we'd also
Speaker 1: watched that she did with her sister called cow Bells.
Speaker 4: Cow Bells.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And apparently the timing would have been she
Speaker 1: could do one or the other, and since this was
Speaker 1: a project with her sister and they were also trying
Speaker 1: to promote their music together, that it made more sense
Speaker 1: for them to go off and do do cow bells.
Speaker 5: The script definitely set it up for there to be
Speaker 5: like a sequel for you and yeah, you know older
Speaker 5: guy like you guys were you know, I mean that,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I can't believe this never ended
Speaker 5: up happening because they set it up so strong. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know that, it seemed like that would have absolutely
Speaker 5: been in the works quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was actually quite surprised. I had I started
Speaker 4: a show right after that and why and it was
Speaker 4: like a Saturday morning show, so I think, and Stan
Speaker 4: Rogo was the producer who was like a big Disney producer,
Speaker 4: and he tried to pitch that show to Disney Channel,
Speaker 4: but they were like, it doesn't mean because it was
Speaker 4: more of like a Kids Lost kind of show, Little
Speaker 4: You're Trapped on an Island and it was like NBC
Speaker 4: Saturday Morning, and so they timing wise, he'd pitch that show,
Speaker 4: They're like, it doesn't work. And then like, you know,
Speaker 4: with the cow bell thing, I'm just like I wonder
Speaker 4: where it would have You're on getting older too. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, so were your characters supposed to be dating
Speaker 1: the end because it kind of ends where you almost
Speaker 1: it seems.
Speaker 5: Like you're together story in a spark, And that's what
Speaker 5: I wanted to see.
Speaker 3: Is a sequel when we're going with these two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of left it like are they aren't they?
Speaker 4: Where is this relationship? It's like are they just like
Speaker 4: these close friends now or are they a couple? And
Speaker 4: I thought the same thing I thought, And I had
Speaker 4: ideas for a sequel later on after it had been
Speaker 4: a few years and now with all these like rebooth things,
Speaker 4: like my head's like, how could I pitch a sequel
Speaker 4: where I'm now the older mentor to somebody else stories timeless? Yeah,
Speaker 4: we get this new kid, possibly my kid, that could
Speaker 4: be trained to take you know. So I got the
Speaker 4: wheels turn and I emailed Ali about it, but she
Speaker 4: just had a baby. She was like, maybe a few
Speaker 4: years ago this would have worked out. She's like, but
Speaker 4: I just don't think now, you know, and be so
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe maybe maybe I can do something
Speaker 4: with that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've got to pitch where you don't have to use
Speaker 2: Alley too much.
Speaker 1: So what happens is the older magician, Franklin Jealo's character
Speaker 1: came back and has trapped Ali's character in like a
Speaker 1: different demand bubble, so she's not in most of the movies.
Speaker 1: So you're training the new magician to help you get
Speaker 1: back your wife essentially. So it's just the last scene, yeah,
Speaker 1: you only really need her and the last scene where
Speaker 1: you actually get to the final dimension and you you're
Speaker 1: able to like to free.
Speaker 4: So there you go, well done, You've got the credit.
Speaker 1: Ran So okay, So the movie comes out, we always
Speaker 1: ask because people we've talked to some people that are like,
Speaker 1: my dcom came out, My life didn't change all that much.
Speaker 1: We've talked to other people that are like my dcom
Speaker 1: came out. I went to the mall the next day
Speaker 1: and I couldn't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: So when when the movie came out? How much did
Speaker 2: your life change?
Speaker 1: I mean, did you notice kind of right away you
Speaker 1: were getting recognized places or where you were people you know,
Speaker 1: hey do a trick to try to get you to
Speaker 1: do magic for them, or how did your life change?
Speaker 4: Yes? Recognized, yes, uh, not so much asking me to
Speaker 4: do tricks. But just a lot of the audience to
Speaker 4: you know, as you guys know is sometimes kids are
Speaker 4: reluctant to approach. So oftentimes it was like the mom
Speaker 4: or the dad. I was like, hey, your son's a
Speaker 4: big fan. He didn't want to say anything. So there
Speaker 4: was a lot in it like yeah, so the being recognized.
Speaker 4: And I was still in Hawaii when it came out,
Speaker 4: so we were still filming that show, and so we
Speaker 4: were on the North Shore. I don't know if I
Speaker 4: had a laptop then, like it was like went to
Speaker 4: the ball and bought a laptop and like I was
Speaker 4: reading like just you know, that was before social media
Speaker 4: really read like message boards and like the movie they
Speaker 4: never want to see me again. So so yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it was. It changed. It changed a bit, but nothing
Speaker 4: like you know, nothing like crazy like high school musical, right,
Speaker 4: which I auditioned for right when I got back.
Speaker 2: Did you because you're a musician, right, So that ye
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 4: And and my in my stupidity when they go this,
Speaker 4: Kenny Ortego was like, okay, so you know I played
Speaker 4: I think I played the Guns and Roses cover. I
Speaker 4: went in there like playing Anti Juzy and I played Sweet
Speaker 4: Child of mine austic guitar, and I was like, great
Speaker 4: Gray whatever, He's probably like just we don't really, I
Speaker 4: don't know if you speak of this guy. But so
Speaker 4: she runs out, like one of the producers runs out,
Speaker 4: and she was like, how are your dancing skills? And
Speaker 4: I was straight up honest. You know some people lie,
Speaker 4: just I was blottly. I was like, I can't dance. Really,
Speaker 4: I'm not good, because I knew there would be like
Speaker 4: a choreographed dancing audition and it would be like if
Speaker 4: I said, sure I dance and they were like batch
Speaker 4: step five, the big Johnny, what do you do? He said,
Speaker 4: you could dance, and then they would just see me
Speaker 4: as like he doesn't know how to dance. No fair,
Speaker 4: It would have wasted everybody's time. The guy who got
Speaker 4: the role and funny enough, the show I did in
Speaker 4: Hawaii Corbyn Blues. Another he was in place was on
Speaker 4: the show in Hawaii Okay, second season we come back,
Speaker 4: and he had gotten that show and talk about life changing.
Speaker 4: Yeah he could.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: He was one of the ones I was talking about
Speaker 1: where he said he went to like a concert right
Speaker 1: afterwards and was just mobbed everywhere. Also he had he
Speaker 1: had the hair at the time, and was he he
Speaker 1: was very hugely recognizable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even with the hat on, You're like that, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and talk about somebody else who can't dance.
Speaker 2: I mean, Carbon Blue is right there and that just
Speaker 2: a terrible dance.
Speaker 4: I know. I was did you get there.
Speaker 2: Of the womb dancing?
Speaker 4: That guy he's in one of our show before High
Speaker 4: School Musical. He was the little condos they put us
Speaker 4: up and we were all hanging out in my room
Speaker 4: one day and he was just dancing and I was like,
Speaker 4: holy crap, this guy can dance. He's like standing on
Speaker 4: his head, like doing flips.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: A year later he gets that movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but what's crazy with the movie?
Speaker 5: When we interviewed him, he was like, I can't play basketball,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, you are kidding me. I mean, because
Speaker 5: it was a dance with the basketball one hundred made
Speaker 5: me think this kid has been playing basketball since he
Speaker 5: was five years old, right.
Speaker 1: It just a rhythm at that point. He had such
Speaker 1: a rhythm where it's like, just give me the ball.
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: Just give me the I was like, what, that's just
Speaker 3: not well.
Speaker 1: Wait, Corbon Blue being in a dancing movie makes full
Speaker 1: sense to me. Did you ever have the opportunity, with
Speaker 1: the myriad of projects that we've seen, to audition for
Speaker 1: a hockey movie for Disney?
Speaker 4: No? No, what God, I don't know if they ever
Speaker 4: made one. I feel like they maybe did. I was
Speaker 4: in one.
Speaker 2: Everybody everybody's made Disney hockey movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, skating in it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't skate.
Speaker 1: So I did a movie called h Double Hockey Sticks,
Speaker 1: but with Matt Lawrence where he was the hockey skater.
Speaker 2: He was the hockey player. But there's been There's been
Speaker 2: a bunch of skating movies.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious why you never got the shot to
Speaker 1: audition for a skating movie.
Speaker 2: It seems perfect, I know.
Speaker 4: I I yeah, I never never did. I I remember
Speaker 4: when I first moved out here, I was too late.
Speaker 4: They had already cast the movie. It was already the
Speaker 4: auditioned but miracle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4: And I had some friends I had been here way
Speaker 4: before me, and they're like, dude, I got to audition.
Speaker 4: They're like, just wanted anybody who could play hockey.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I just missed, Like no, I
Speaker 2: just missed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's so cool. You got to play a
Speaker 4: hockey league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I play the Devil, so I'm the minion of Satan.
Speaker 1: But but Matt Lawrence plays a hockey player who sells
Speaker 1: his soul to win the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, it's it's I'm sure I can find it right.
Speaker 1: It's really grainy on YouTube, so good luck. Because we
Speaker 1: watched it too, We're like, wow, this this looks terrible.
Speaker 1: So okay, so we're what twenty years later, and you
Speaker 1: were talking about the idea of the idea for the
Speaker 1: sequel that you would have, So that answers my question,
Speaker 1: Then what do you think your character would be doing? Now?
Speaker 2: Do you think you'd be mentoring another young magician?
Speaker 4: That's what That's what my I had rowe a small pitch.
Speaker 4: I never got it off the ground because I was like,
Speaker 4: who do I contact? Do I who do I shop
Speaker 4: this dude? It's been so long and so yeah, that's
Speaker 4: where that's where my mind was. Where I had this
Speaker 4: idea of like I think what I just said, it's
Speaker 4: like where I would mentor either like somebody else or like,
Speaker 4: you know, there's another kid who's you know, has these powers.
Speaker 4: He's kind of being picked on, he doesn't know what's
Speaker 4: going on with his life. A little similar where but
Speaker 4: it's not a competition, like because now you see it
Speaker 4: used to be called it was originally called The Search
Speaker 4: for the Greatest Kids and Magicians or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, the banners behind the Marquees.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So so my pitch, yeah later
Speaker 4: would it would be somewhere along those lines where I
Speaker 4: would be the mentor, you know. And I sort of
Speaker 4: thought of, like most of the movie with Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he was a magician.
Speaker 1: They tried to do that. It's basically Fantasia.
Speaker 4: It had a similar it had a similar thing as that,
Speaker 4: and like, I feel like it's so broad now it
Speaker 4: could go either way. So it's still in the back
Speaker 4: of my mind. I I just got to find the
Speaker 4: right pitch and the right people, like, yeah, get behind me.
Speaker 1: That's it's it's Disney. So you just got to find
Speaker 1: the right people at Disney to go and.
Speaker 2: Pitch it to.
Speaker 3: But you're right, it's hard.
Speaker 5: So many of the people that were at the at
Speaker 5: the Channel while you did this movie are now gone,
Speaker 5: like they they moved on, they're not there at the
Speaker 5: Channel anymore. So it's tough because you're like, dang it,
Speaker 5: all those contents.
Speaker 2: Are You're right, all the reboots are coming back.
Speaker 3: They are wanting them, they love them in this movie.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie this movie, Like when I do
Speaker 4: you still hear about it? I get so many messages,
Speaker 4: especially around Halloween, you know, people get really into it
Speaker 4: for some reason because it's just the dark kind of
Speaker 4: feel like, but yeah, it's still And I've had the
Speaker 4: same thing, people being like, why where's the sequel? Why
Speaker 4: didn't they ever make a sequel? That movie was like
Speaker 4: the jam whatever. I don't know. I don't know why
Speaker 4: there's not a sequel. I really thought there would have been.
Speaker 4: I heard there was gonna be. Yeah, we didn't know
Speaker 4: what was true and what wasn't true, or what the
Speaker 4: timing was, and.
Speaker 5: So you know, it sounds like both of you guys
Speaker 5: were so busy and they probably felt like without either,
Speaker 5: like without you guys as like the main drive of it.
Speaker 3: It wasn't worth it for them, you know, to recast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And I think she was. She was,
Speaker 4: you know, the lead, So I think if it was
Speaker 4: more about what she wanted to do, I think if
Speaker 4: like if she had said after cow Bells will do
Speaker 4: a sequel, they probably would be like, great, let's do
Speaker 4: it right, right, And so I think it was more
Speaker 4: because you know how people get I feel like, especially
Speaker 4: young actors in this industry, it's like you do a
Speaker 4: certain thing and then you try hard to do the opposite.
Speaker 4: Of course the next thing. It's like if you're known
Speaker 4: as like you know, as you guys both know, if
Speaker 4: you're known as like a teen idol and you're on
Speaker 4: that genre in your mind frame as the actor, you're like, now,
Speaker 4: how do I be the adult, serious person and get
Speaker 4: taken seriously? So I feel like or music or you
Speaker 4: want to do something else, Whereas for Ali, I think
Speaker 4: it was more like I want to do stuff with
Speaker 4: my sister, or music's the main thing, because she was
Speaker 4: on a show for Disney Channel that the Future. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And so I think and her also kind of being
Speaker 4: an old soul in a sense, maybe she wanted to
Speaker 4: just focus on you know, because when I wrote her
Speaker 4: years years years later, she was like, it been like
Speaker 4: a few years ago, Yeah, I would have been more
Speaker 4: open to it, but like right now, I just you know,
Speaker 4: I don't think it's really what I want to do,
Speaker 4: and she's like, music's my main focus. Like I think
Speaker 4: she focused on acting much anymore. So there's that, you know.
Speaker 4: And I was in that mind frame too, even after
Speaker 4: kind of like why I didn't just lie and say
Speaker 4: it was a dancer. I had done the Disney thing,
Speaker 4: I had done the teen show on you know, ABC,
Speaker 4: the Saturday morning show. So I was kind of like, well,
Speaker 4: I want to do something more serious now, right, And
Speaker 4: you always get that frame, and it's it's if I
Speaker 4: can give advice, as you know, we could all agree,
Speaker 4: if we could give advice to our younger selves. It's like,
Speaker 4: take what's in front of you sort of and run
Speaker 4: with it, because I think you sometimes overthink where you
Speaker 4: are and you're like, I want this stuff, but that's
Speaker 4: that's not coming to me. So why would I not
Speaker 4: do this hold out for something that's sort of not
Speaker 4: in my path right now? I'm not giving those offers,
Speaker 4: and so it's it's it's weird and it's sad. You
Speaker 4: see a lot of careers sort of just it's true.
Speaker 1: I heard I heard a great saying the other day,
Speaker 1: which is the grass is always greener if you're not
Speaker 1: watering your side of the lawn great saying which is
Speaker 1: which is so true? So it's it's you know, that's
Speaker 1: it's exactly what it is. Well, I mean, are you
Speaker 1: still playing music?
Speaker 4: I still play music? Yeah, still play music. I was
Speaker 4: in a I was in a band for a while.
Speaker 4: We released some stuff. It was like a thirty seconds
Speaker 4: to Mars Thye band called Forever the Day. It's very
Speaker 4: pop pop rock release some solo stuff. It's stuff for soundtracks.
Speaker 4: Still acting. Just wrapped the two B movie a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks ago. R I'm finally playing you know, the
Speaker 4: older Secret Service. So it's like I got to do
Speaker 4: a lot of like attack gear swat type stuff.
Speaker 2: When's that coming out?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know. It's a to be original,
Speaker 4: I think, so I don't know exactly when you know,
Speaker 4: what their turnaround is.
Speaker 2: But but it was fun.
Speaker 4: So, you know, it's been it's been, you know, trying
Speaker 4: to figure out other stuff too. Along the way of
Speaker 4: like what I want to do. I've gotten in the
Speaker 4: other things, other you know, side things that had nothing
Speaker 4: to do with the industry. But you know, it's music. Music.
Speaker 4: I would love to continue to do. But I think
Speaker 4: at the end of the street, the music industry is
Speaker 4: just so as both industries are just so.
Speaker 2: Entertainment industry, Yeah, the whole entertainment industry, it doesn't know
Speaker 2: what it is. It doesn't know what it is.
Speaker 4: It doesn't know what it is or what it wants,
Speaker 4: and everything is just so especially music. I feel like
Speaker 4: like social media driven and it's like if you're not
Speaker 4: super huge on like TikTok or whatever, it's just hard
Speaker 4: to get your music and streams. Sure, you can get
Speaker 4: stuff out there the stream, but I mean it takes
Speaker 4: so many streams to a forward to like be worth it.
Speaker 4: It's like right, And as a musician, you want to tour,
Speaker 4: Like I my buddy, my bandmate, who was the drummer
Speaker 4: in our band, he was like, dude, I want to
Speaker 4: play music again, let's record. I'm like, why are we
Speaker 4: going to play live? Because I don't want to do
Speaker 4: it if we're not going to play live, because that's
Speaker 4: that's the fun concerts and playing live. I'm like, I
Speaker 4: don't want to just be one of those musicians that
Speaker 4: throws a song up on Spotify and.
Speaker 3: Right that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So last question, while we have you
Speaker 1: twenty years later, what are your overall thoughts on the movie.
Speaker 2: Now you see it, Oh.
Speaker 4: Man, it's been a while. It's been a while since
Speaker 4: I've seen it.
Speaker 2: You watch it in a while, Okay. Showed it to my.
Speaker 4: Niece, who's now a little bit older. When she was
Speaker 4: a little younger, she was still too young at the time,
Speaker 4: I think to really clock it. And I don't know
Speaker 4: if you guys noticed this, but sometimes I feel like
Speaker 4: when you show like a younger generation in your family something,
Speaker 4: they're kind of like, yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't look as slick as everything now, and why is
Speaker 2: it brainy?
Speaker 4: What is this? Yeah? How'd you like that movie? It
Speaker 4: was pretty neat? Yeah.
Speaker 5: Generation, it's also like not only five minutes, so they
Speaker 5: lose their trade of thought and their care in the
Speaker 5: world at four minutes and thirty five seconds, so you know,
Speaker 5: the rest of your ninety minute movie is gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah pretty much, Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4: And it's your family. You're just you're just you know,
Speaker 4: rap person. So it's like, yeah, totally, person on the
Speaker 4: screen is.
Speaker 2: Just kind of like, well, yeah, you're just uncle Johnny.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't care, some a weird job. What
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 4: I think Johnny Depp said that one time he was like,
Speaker 4: you know, he tried to make movies his kids could
Speaker 4: his kids could watch, and they were just like, you know,
Speaker 4: just he was like, I'm just a guy with a
Speaker 4: weird job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's like they're not phased by it, but
Speaker 4: if it's they are phased by people they don't know
Speaker 4: that are doing the same kind of thing, you know,
Speaker 4: the cars. It's like, so you know, you get it.
Speaker 4: It's funny. But twenty years later, you know, it's my
Speaker 4: thoughts on the movie. I still enjoy it. I think
Speaker 4: it's fun. I think it's I I'm glad I got
Speaker 4: to do it. It was such a blessing and I'm
Speaker 4: so brain for that opportunity. And you know, I look
Speaker 4: back out of a lot of the projects that I did,
Speaker 4: and you know, it still stands up because not only
Speaker 4: was it one of my first sort of bigger roles,
Speaker 4: but just the whole experience was really really neat, like
Speaker 4: from cast crew, story to location to like it was
Speaker 4: just a really fun and I thought it turned out
Speaker 4: really well. I thought Dwayne did a great job. And
Speaker 4: I still, you know, with all these reboots going on,
Speaker 4: like I still I still think it so happened. I'm like,
Speaker 4: series is a little mini series for Disney plus I
Speaker 4: don't know, let's see what we can do with it.
Speaker 4: But who knows. You know, it's like I said, it's
Speaker 4: getting the people behind it, you know, whoever wants to bite.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: If people loved it so yeah, we would. We would
Speaker 1: certainly be here for it if it was to happen.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2: This is really cool to get some of them behind
Speaker 2: the scenes snippets and yeah, good luck with everything. Let
Speaker 2: us know you know what you're doing, what you're up to.
Speaker 2: We'll throw up on our social media stuff.
Speaker 4: Cool sounds good, guess thank you.
Speaker 3: You have a great day too.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: That's just it's so interesting because it's there's just so
Speaker 1: many multi talented people that work for Disney Channel. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many kids they find that can kind of
Speaker 1: do anything. And the idea that he never got to
Speaker 1: audition for a hockey movie is.
Speaker 3: That is wild wild.
Speaker 5: But he's so right to think too, because we've really
Speaker 5: seen from a lot of our interviews some of the
Speaker 5: actors that kind of just get pushed into Corbyn Blues.
Speaker 5: One of them, you know, goes on Hannah Montana, you know.
Speaker 3: Has his own movie. Is it part of the High
Speaker 3: School Musical franchise? Like all of that.
Speaker 5: And then they also have actors that they use but
Speaker 5: like for whatever reason, don't feel like, oh, no, we.
Speaker 3: Can't use you for that because you're you're this, you know.
Speaker 5: So it's interesting to see how the Disney Channel has
Speaker 5: kind of bobbed in and out of, you know, reusing
Speaker 5: or not using ever again other actors, you know, pulling
Speaker 5: them in there just shows that just didn't end up
Speaker 5: being the right thing.
Speaker 3: Again. Man, he should have said he could dance.
Speaker 2: No, you can't know because you can't, because I would
Speaker 2: have done the same thing, because there's some of us
Speaker 2: that can't dance to the point of absurdity.
Speaker 3: But you knew you couldn't skate.
Speaker 2: But I didn't have to. I didn't I didn't have
Speaker 2: to play. I just had to be on.
Speaker 3: Nancy Kerrigan put you on Blast? What was that movie?
Speaker 3: Did you lie?
Speaker 4: So that was that was?
Speaker 2: Oh they knew.
Speaker 1: I was literally on a wheelchair, kneeling on a wheelchair
Speaker 1: where they shot underneath me and wheeled me around from behind.
Speaker 2: So in all fairness.
Speaker 1: Nancy Kergan in every right to make fun of me,
Speaker 1: but no, you can't lie about certain things.
Speaker 2: It's tough to be. Like, if you're going to be
Speaker 2: in a singing movie and you can't sing, yeah, you
Speaker 2: shouldn't say you can sing yeah, because it's like you
Speaker 2: can't sing. I can't. I'm not I'm not a good singer.
Speaker 2: So if it's I'm not going to go on Broadway.
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where it's like if
Speaker 1: you can't dance and it's high school musical and you
Speaker 1: know one of the auditions is going to be just.
Speaker 2: Dancing, it's like you you really are I would you
Speaker 2: be wasted people's time? I guess yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Know even you're amazing. I could give you six months,
Speaker 1: ten hours a day, and you will never ever be
Speaker 1: able to.
Speaker 2: Teach me how to dance. I can guarantee you that,
Speaker 2: because I can't dance.
Speaker 3: Would take you up on that offer. I really would.
Speaker 2: I can't anyway.
Speaker 5: Really, you couldn't do probably technical stuff. But I could
Speaker 5: get you to move, I know I could. I could
Speaker 5: get you to like move somewhat and be a little
Speaker 5: bit like fluid. I couldn't get you to do like
Speaker 5: crazy technical no like.
Speaker 1: No, you know, but you could do it the way
Speaker 1: that people got me to run my first time, which
Speaker 1: is just to hang a twinkie in front of me
Speaker 1: and I just run after it like I'll get it.
Speaker 2: I know I can get it. I did get that
Speaker 2: twinkie eventually, I did. All right, good for you, Thank
Speaker 2: you everybody for joining us. So thank you Johnny for
Speaker 2: joining us. Don't forget you could follow us and.
Speaker 1: Dm us on the Instagram machine at Magical Rewind Pod
Speaker 1: and join us over on our other feet.
Speaker 2: I think the next time we're doing Zobies too. I'm
Speaker 2: so excited and if it couldn't get any cooler. We're
Speaker 2: not even doing it alone.
Speaker 1: We are doing it with friend of the podcast, friend
Speaker 1: of mine, Danielle Fischel TV's Tamanga, who is a huge
Speaker 1: Zombies fan.
Speaker 3: Has been for a long time.
Speaker 2: Yes, rock paper scissoring to see which one of them
Speaker 2: got to you know, I get to do the first one,
Speaker 2: I get to do the second one.
Speaker 1: So we're very very excited. Don't forget to join us
Speaker 1: over there, and thank you again, Johnny. Go check out
Speaker 1: now you see it, because now you don't never came
Speaker 1: out and hopefully it will someday we'll see Thanks everybody, Bye,