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Speaker 1: Every single food can either harm you or heal you,

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Speaker 1: I'm rather Dablukiah, And on my podcast A Really Good Cry,

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Speaker 1: we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing a space

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Speaker 1: for raw, unfiltered conversations that celebrate vulnerability and allow you

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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, thank you so much for tuning back into

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Speaker 2: A Really Good Cry podcast.

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Speaker 1: And today I want us to talk about something that

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Speaker 2: Well, actually you know what, rewind.

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Speaker 1: I want to start this off actually by making a

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Speaker 2: Do is my choice. What you do is your choice.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a really strong believer in checking yourself before

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Speaker 1: that cow's milk obviously contain animal proteins, and animal proteins

437
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: produce acid when they're broken down. Calcium helps to neutralize

438
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: acid in the body, and so in order to neutralize

439
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: and flush out the excess acids, our body has to

440
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: use the calcium that milk contains, as well as some

441
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: of our stores to actually neutralize the acids that come

442
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: from it.

443
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: And so whenever we're actually drinking.

444
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: Cow's milk, it also leaches the calcium from our bones.

445
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: And so there's been so many medical studies to show

446
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: that people who consume the most cow's milk have higher

447
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: rates of fractures than those who drink little or no milk.

448
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: And I found that so interesting because I also grew

449
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: up drinking milk and thinking that was what you should

450
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: be doing, and I always.

451
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: Used to worry about that.

452
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: But whenever I've had tests done and I've seen, you know,

453
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: my bone density and all of that, I've been great,

454
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: and I've been what ten years down the line. I'm

455
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: not saying, Look, I'm only I'm still of newbie technically.

456
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of my life ahead. But I've

457
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: met people who have been vegan for forty years and

458
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: they seem to be doing just fine. One thing I've

459
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: heard that has stuck in my mind, and I share

460
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of people whenever we have this type

461
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: of discussion, is that cows actually eat grass and vegetables

462
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: and plants to get their nutrients that then gets assimilated

463
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: into their body, which then comes out into the milk

464
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: or in the meat that you're eating. And so essentially

465
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: we're getting the nutrients we want from a middleman, the

466
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: middleman being the cow. Instead, why not just go directly

467
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: to the sauce and get those nutrients from the plants

468
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: and the vegetables, fruits or whatever that the cow is eating.

469
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: And I can only speak for myself and my friends

470
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: who are plant based or vegan, but I have to

471
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: say my whole body felt so much better once I

472
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: gave up dairy. My goodness, my digestion was better, my

473
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: skin was so much better, I felt lighter, and brighter,

474
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: And every single time I even think about I see

475
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: cheese on a pizza or I see a dessert that

476
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: I can't eat, there is no part of me that

477
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: even thinks about going back. There never has been. I've

478
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: had to give up my favorite chocolates, I've given up

479
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: a lot of my favorite foods. I'm such a food here.

480
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: I used to love eating so many different types of foods,

481
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: and it really limits me whenever I go away, whenever

482
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm out at restaurant. But honestly, there is no part

483
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: of me that goes back because I just think about

484
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: what animals have to go through.

485
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: That's it.

486
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: I just think about what this animal would have had

487
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: to go through for me to eat this cake or

488
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: for me to eat this slice of pizza, and I'm like,

489
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: is that really worth it? Is that really worth it?

490
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: And it just for me, I couldn't stomach eating it

491
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: knowing that.

492
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: So that's us.

493
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: That's how it affects us. Okay, but let's get onto

494
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: the animals. So here are some stats for you. Brace yourself.

495
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: These are well. I was actually really shocked when I

496
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: saw these stats. Every single year, more than one hundred

497
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: and ten million animals, including mice, rats, frogs, dogs, cats, rabbits, hamsters,

498
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: guinea pigs, monkeys, fish, and birds are killed in US

499
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: labs for biology lessons, medical training, experiments, chemical drug, food,

500
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: cosmetic testing. And that's just for testing. That's not even

501
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: the animals that are killed for eating or for consumption.

502
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: That is just for testing.

503
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: And the way that those animals are treated, they're literally

504
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: treated as experiments. They are given no rights, nobody cares

505
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: about them, They're given toxic fumes, They're trapped in just horrible,

506
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: horrible conditions. They've holes drilled into their skulls, their skins

507
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: burned off. There's just so much torture that happens in

508
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: these labs, and we wouldn't even know half of it

509
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: because we're just not really shown stuff like that. But

510
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: I always wondered, and this is something I've I think

511
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: I shared on my Instagram before, But I always think

512
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: about if we really are comfortable, if we're comfortable using

513
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: makeup and products and medication that has been tested on

514
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: these animals, and we believe that if it's okay on them,

515
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: then it's okay on us. We must believe that there

516
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: is some sort of similarity between us and them. And

517
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: therefore there must be something that we can relate to

518
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: in these animals, because we're trusting, fully trusting the experiments

519
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: that are done on these animals in deciding whether they

520
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: should also go into or onto our body. Next that

521
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: and estimated, are you ready, ninety two billion land animals

522
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: are slaughtered annually in the global food system. Ninety two

523
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: billion land animals every single year are slorted for food.

524
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: That is insane, Like I just I keep reading that

525
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: start over and over and I can't even fathom what

526
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: that means, can you? And that includes one point five

527
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: billion cows each year, thirty four million of those, by

528
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: the way, was just in the US, three point five

529
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: million pigs, seventy three billion chickens, two point one billion wildfish,

530
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: seven hundred and forty nine million geese. I mean, the

531
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: list just goes on. Five hundred million goats were slorted

532
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: for food. The lit just goes on and on of

533
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: the types of animals. But essentially that number eighty three

534
00:27:52,880 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: billion animals every single year are killed for consumption. And honestly,

535
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: that's all I really have to say about the animal part,

536
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's just all pretty self explanatory.

537
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: They're tortured, they're they're kept in horrible environments, they are

538
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: in fear constantly, and then they're slaughtered just to be

539
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: on our plates. And so I think that is something

540
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: which look, if you're able, you know what. I actually

541
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: I remember speaking to someone about this and they said, well,

542
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: do you think if someone because I was saying how

543
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: people just aren't aware sometimes, like children sometimes don't even

544
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: know what they're putting on their plate. They don't know

545
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: where it's come from. And then when they suddenly make

546
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: the association. I've seen so many videos where children are

547
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: just so upset they didn't even realize that it was

548
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: an animal on their plate. But someone said to me, look,

549
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: do you well, what about the people who can go

550
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: out there, they hunt, they kill the animal, and then

551
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: they put it on their plate. At least they're an awareness.

552
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what, Yeah, you are an awareness.

553
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're doing, you know exactly where

554
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: it's coming from. And so at that point I can't

555
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: even argue with you, because that's still that is your

556
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: informed choice that you have made. But I still think

557
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: it's the pleasure over someone else's pain that.

558
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: I find difficult to stomach, and.

559
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: So many people say, well, veganism isn't healthy, and I

560
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: honestly agree, the vegan culture that has become so popular

561
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: is not healthy. It is filled with processed foods and

562
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: salts and foods.

563
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: With no nutrients or life.

564
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: I completely agree the mock meets out there, the deep

565
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: fried food. The culture is just completely shifted into something

566
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: which is unhealthy.

567
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: And so I'm not.

568
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Saying that that vegan life is healthier, but actually, if

569
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: you go back to the basics of having the food

570
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: that nature provides us with that is naturally plant based,

571
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: the fruits, the vegetables, the grains, the pulses, the legumes,

572
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: the lentails, the beans, like the abundance that nature provides

573
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: us where there is plenty to eat without having to

574
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: have the fake dairy, without oh nuts, seeds, all of

575
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: those things, without having to have the f meats and

576
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: the and the fake chickens and the fake beefs. I

577
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: honestly I do see a place for it really helps

578
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: for people to swap over, and I really do see that.

579
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: But I understand when people say, you know what, it's

580
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: not that healthy. And I think the veganism that we

581
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: now see it has become most popular, it isn't really

582
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: that healthy. But you again have that choice. When you

583
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: decide to make plant based meals or choices, you can

584
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: decide what goes into them and how much of that

585
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: you want to be just real food, real nourishing food.

586
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: The third thing was the world, the planet, nature around us.

587
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: How does eating animals impact us?

588
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: There?

589
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: And look, veganism brings its own issues, as does everything.

590
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: When you give up having a leather bag, you buy

591
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: a synthetic leather bag, which is essentially made from plastic,

592
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: and you harm the planet.

593
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: I get it.

594
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: It's not a perfected system just yet. And I'm not

595
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: going to sit here and say that this lifestyle is

596
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: the best, but I will say that it saves lives.

597
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: And there are ways to also be environmentally friendly and

598
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: also be vegan by using sustainable materials, by educating yourself

599
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: on what does and doesn't hurt the environment, seeing all

600
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: the sides to everything, And I think there's always going

601
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: to be a negative to everything.

602
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: There always is.

603
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: You drink almond milk, something happens you find out that

604
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: almonds are it takes so much water that it ends

605
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: up you know, I think, what is this?

606
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: What is the thing, it's that.

607
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: Apparently almonds take more water than other nuts to actually grow,

608
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: and so you know, choose a cashw milk, and you know,

609
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: every day we're going to learn something new that where

610
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: we can be better and better at different things.

611
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: And I'm still learning every day.

612
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: Of course, there's so much that I need to change

613
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: and adjust and keep improving on and sometimes I just

614
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: don't have the energy or power to do it at

615
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: that time, and I'll try it maybe next week or

616
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: the week after. But the point is there's always going

617
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: to be a good and a bad to everything. But

618
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: we can at least try like one step at a time,

619
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: and I do that with my main products, or my

620
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: skincare products or the packaging of my food. I'm just

621
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: trying to make little adjustments where I possibly can. And

622
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the last thing that I mentioned was future generation, the

623
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: way that we are impacting the people who are to

624
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: come and live on this earth. And the fact is

625
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: everything we do we may not see its impact right now,

626
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: but the next generation will. And we have a choice

627
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: to either live selfishly with the mindset to take and

628
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: enjoy as much as we can from this planet and

629
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: indulge in it as much as we can, or we

630
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: can change our mindset to serve and think how we

631
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: can leave the world better than when we got here.

632
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: And you may think that.

633
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh, well, it's just if I stop eating meat, what

634
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: difference is it going to make. Well, actually, every animal

635
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: not eating is an animal that gets to keep their life.

636
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: The less meat that is brought, the less animals that

637
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: will be rounded up to be slaughtered. Every time you

638
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: choose not to buy meat, the meat industry gets weaker.

639
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Every time we choose not to buy a leather bag

640
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: or a fur coat, that's one less sale, that's one

641
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: less hope that they'll decide to skin when it comes

642
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: to next year, because it will affect how much people

643
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: are buying. And so I think, even if you feel

644
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: like your impact is small.

645
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: That's where we go wrong. I've been there too.

646
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: I've been at what difference does it make whether I

647
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: buy this plastic bag or I buy this, And I

648
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: realize it does make a huge difference, because if everybody's

649
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: thinking that, then we're getting absolutely nowhere. So whether it's

650
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: a big impact or a small impact, it does make

651
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: a huge difference to those animals that actually get to

652
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: keep their lives. And maybe not these animals now, but

653
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: the animals next year, and the year after that and

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Speaker 1: the year after that. Anyway, I really hope that this

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Speaker 1: wasn't too intense. It was really just an overview of

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Speaker 1: all the things that can give you a bit of

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Speaker 1: food for thought. And honestly, I don't agree with anything

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Speaker 1: being shared or taught with aggression or anger or demand,

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Speaker 1: because some of us vegans can be real crazy. I've

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Speaker 1: seen it myself. They be turning up places, throwing blood

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Speaker 1: on things, and shouting and screaming about things. But I

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Speaker 1: think if we can all share information with love, we're

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Speaker 1: a lot more compassionate to each other and give people

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Speaker 1: benefit of doubt and give people time to change and

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Speaker 1: adapt and share with just care and love, it can

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Speaker 1: make such a difference. That would be so great that way,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't it. And I do feel quite passionate about this

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Speaker 1: topic because I just love animals so much, and I

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Speaker 1: think the world would be changing of the mindset and

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Speaker 1: realizing that we're all just the same, with the same

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Speaker 1: souls just inside different sometimes furry vessels. Sending you all

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Speaker 1: so much love for this week. I would love to

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Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. Actually, let me know, send me a DM,

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Speaker 1: send me a comment on my posts. I would love

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Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on this podcast and whether it

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Speaker 1: shifted your mindset at all, whether it's you know, brought

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Speaker 1: up more questions for you. But I hope it was

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Speaker 1: a good one and a useful one, and have a wonderful,

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Speaker 1: wonderful day, he said,