Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh, I see you my old line
Speaker 1: and look over there. How is that culture? Yes? Goodness?
Speaker 1: Letting you went up with the little I felt a musical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I can I say something please? You always ask
Speaker 1: for permission and you always have it. Thank you for
Speaker 1: giving me the permission either way. I have been in
Speaker 1: l A now for some time, performing a lot less
Speaker 1: like that's this is the thing with like I feel
Speaker 1: like you come out to l A when I'm a
Speaker 1: New Yorker and I feel like I'm performing all the time,
Speaker 1: getting on every show, every show here in l A.
Speaker 1: I'm in fucking bed at literally because that's the L.
Speaker 1: And I think I like it better that that's the L. Honey,
Speaker 1: it's actually really culture number nine. That's then I think
Speaker 1: I like being a person who goes to bed early
Speaker 1: and gets up early as well. So that's what you're thinking,
Speaker 1: like this culture because in New York, I am fully
Speaker 1: up until two o'clock in the morning, and if I
Speaker 1: wake up at and catch the last fifteen minutes of
Speaker 1: the view, it's a blessed day. Wow. I mean, but
Speaker 1: with New York it's like either your blood vessels are
Speaker 1: screaming or you know, you're just so lethargia. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy that you said blood vessels are screaming because I
Speaker 1: was thinking to myself, we need to find a way
Speaker 1: to spice up this L a Versus New York conversation.
Speaker 1: How are we going to make this the definitive L
Speaker 1: a Versus New York conversation? And when you, Honey said
Speaker 1: blood vessels screaming, I saw that and I thought, that's
Speaker 1: visual and that's why you're an artist, and that's why
Speaker 1: you're a vocal artist. You are amazing. Bowen are amazing,
Speaker 1: and thank you. I think my new joke area is
Speaker 1: like they so humor, like like blood vessel humor. Can
Speaker 1: I say some things it happens? Laughing Hot associate for
Speaker 1: user Alec is laughing at because but you know what,
Speaker 1: we have so much in common. We're both from Denver.
Speaker 1: We both were iby kids International Baccalaureate, which is just
Speaker 1: a really silly um Yeah, I don't care, oh no,
Speaker 1: but we we both we both remembered it very fondly.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to poopoo and I be but a place.
Speaker 1: What what? What a gorgeous quick friendship that I've struck
Speaker 1: up with happa, and happa means as we as we
Speaker 1: briefly mentioned half Asian, so shorthand for saying half Asian. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're happy and you are fully white Jewish, well Jewish,
Speaker 1: which is why jewish now speaking of race, speaking of
Speaker 1: the race, Here's the thing. Whenever whenever I make an
Speaker 1: appearance and what I say to the people, as I
Speaker 1: say I would like to do podcasts, and they say, okay,
Speaker 1: which and the and and the people sambrella namely, we'll
Speaker 1: reach out and she'll cut back and she'll say, here's
Speaker 1: the podcast that would accept you on as a guest.
Speaker 1: And whenever I see you know, is this racist? And
Speaker 1: they always accept me, I say, I would like to
Speaker 1: do that show. One of the best podcasts. I had
Speaker 1: such a good time And guess what, I had such
Speaker 1: a good time listening because I think I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just truly I don't feel I don't feel that
Speaker 1: same thing with a lot of podcasts. A lot of
Speaker 1: people talk about where they're just like, oh, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm sitting with cool people and having a conversation.
Speaker 1: Most of the time I'm like, oh, I'm being told
Speaker 1: about Elizabeth Homes scamming you know whatever, which is what
Speaker 1: we discussed. But when you listen to when you listen
Speaker 1: to these two, I'm truly like, oh, I'm like part
Speaker 1: of it. No, it's not only that, it's like I'm
Speaker 1: getting murder. I know how to like talk about ship
Speaker 1: more and more. Truly, I'm like, oh, these are like
Speaker 1: two very smart, good cool people. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Yes, of course. I have been on their
Speaker 1: podcast two times that I feel like cheated on you
Speaker 1: by going on there their podcast without you. But guess what,
Speaker 1: I'm my own person, yea, and I will go on
Speaker 1: any podcast that accepts me. And when they excepted me
Speaker 1: to be on their podcasts the second time, I did
Speaker 1: say I accept the invitation and we went on and
Speaker 1: had a fabulous time. I was. I listened to that
Speaker 1: episode was fabulous. I had such a fabulous and we
Speaker 1: just had a shot of whiskey with them, and guess
Speaker 1: what it's slammed me. Oh what was the kind of
Speaker 1: whiskey that it was? It was the Taiwanese. Oh, what's
Speaker 1: it called an aged cav cavalan. I was about to
Speaker 1: say Kavanaugh, which would have been bad. Have you said Kavanaugh?
Speaker 1: Had you said Cavana. I would have stormed out, and
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't want to talk about her. I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about her. But Andrew brought me
Speaker 1: these boxed fruit. Well he didn't bring me in a
Speaker 1: plastic case, these fucking these these Asian pears in a
Speaker 1: in a styrofolm mesh. May I smell the fruit? Yes, oh,
Speaker 1: you haven't had Asian pair, but you've had Asian pair before.
Speaker 1: I would like to try in one right now. Well
Speaker 1: you can't really, it's more of a thing that you
Speaker 1: cut up. It's like you know, or you can bite
Speaker 1: into it. But look, oh, it's the most beautiful fruit.
Speaker 1: What is this rapper? It's the it's the start of
Speaker 1: a mesh. Take a bite, just take one bite into it.
Speaker 1: Then it'll be yours. What a gorgeous sound? What do
Speaker 1: we what do we pay? I love this pair. It's
Speaker 1: a great pair. It tastes as good as it looks.
Speaker 1: It's a very big pair, and the taste is big,
Speaker 1: and the taste it's very sweet, and it's gorgeous natural sweetness.
Speaker 1: That's the whiskey. And what I mean, so nice of
Speaker 1: them to come bearing gift. Can you can you even
Speaker 1: I really, can you even can I'm already having a
Speaker 1: great having Can you believe we haven't even introduced we
Speaker 1: haven't even introduced them? Can we say that the host
Speaker 1: of yours this racist podcast on Yes Miss air A
Speaker 1: Wolf Network network aer A Wolf Network, Yes, honey, which
Speaker 1: is really the president of network podcast Networks. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I had one shot and I can't wait for
Speaker 1: this wild ride. I'm strapping myself in Wow. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can catch them on their amazing podcast, was this racist?
Speaker 1: They're they're talking talking about race, talking to guests, taking calls.
Speaker 1: It's truly the best, most entergy. Sometimes sometimes the calls
Speaker 1: can be psycho. The calls are and that's why we
Speaker 1: love the cause as a listener, That's why I love
Speaker 1: the calls. And they don't make you think, and they
Speaker 1: do make you think, um uh. You can catch um
Speaker 1: brock Meyer coming coming up in April. Um. And you
Speaker 1: can catch our guests sometimes popping out our one guest
Speaker 1: sometimes popping out of a cab in Vancouver and us
Speaker 1: being like like, oh what, And then we all got
Speaker 1: drinks and then we'll hold on you will you usually
Speaker 1: and then and then you can kind on Andrew to
Speaker 1: just bring a delicious sweet fruit. They are bringing it,
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited that this episode is happening. This
Speaker 1: is a true gorgeous crossover moment. Please welcome to your ears,
Speaker 1: Tod you and sorry I cut you off. I got
Speaker 1: so excited in the same way that I got excited
Speaker 1: when you shrieked my name in Vancouver, because that's when
Speaker 1: I was a period of five days where I lost
Speaker 1: my phone. Yeah, you traveled to another country like a luddite,
Speaker 1: and hearing two people I didn't know we're there say
Speaker 1: my name in a friendly way made me feel seen
Speaker 1: in her in a way that I had truly I
Speaker 1: had truly been in the dark. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: have nothing, and then you gave me a ray of light.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Andrew. Longest you've gone without your phone,
Speaker 1: longest I've gone without my phone about I guess about
Speaker 1: like eighteen twenty minutes. Okay, that's beautiful, and actually I
Speaker 1: admires you keep it with you in the at like
Speaker 1: the gym. You just fully what I do is I've
Speaker 1: been playing poker on the exercise bike. That's fun. It's
Speaker 1: because I just I hate being on the exercise bike
Speaker 1: so much, so My reward is playing on line poker
Speaker 1: for bitcoins, I think not in a not strictly legal
Speaker 1: did did I know this about you? That you you do?
Speaker 1: You possess bitcoin? I only got enough to play poker
Speaker 1: on this like not legal, which is how man? It's
Speaker 1: like point zero ones yeah, yeah, yeah, I got three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of bitcoin, which is like yeah, point
Speaker 1: it's exactly point one five. It doesn't matter. The point
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Um yeah, I've been playing. Wow, how you
Speaker 1: wk that? Parent? I just say something. This pair is
Speaker 1: like a cake. They're they're really sweet. This pair is
Speaker 1: unrivaled on This pair has the hot rating from the
Speaker 1: five stars. I will just say this, and we could
Speaker 1: even do this. Uh, try it, try it just a
Speaker 1: little chilled. They're really good. Just not cold, but just
Speaker 1: like a little like just just out the fridge and
Speaker 1: then warm it up, like like a little more than
Speaker 1: you would a white wine. Beautif have you tried this pair?
Speaker 1: My childhood bitch? This is outrageous. But box fruit is
Speaker 1: mad Asian. Mad Asian. It's like you went to Martin
Speaker 1: just came straight here from that. I mean it hypothetically
Speaker 1: could be like I did go to the Korean star
Speaker 1: literally minutes right before I came. And that's beautiful and
Speaker 1: why why would we why would we judge that? I mean,
Speaker 1: but I went the extra Chinese mile and I did
Speaker 1: tear the Korean stickers off the pears because you didn't.
Speaker 1: You you wanted to the Chinese experience. Yeah, I wanted
Speaker 1: to go full Chinese. You wanted to snofy pears taking
Speaker 1: off the Korean label. Okay, it's not that cool in
Speaker 1: some ways. No, no, no, but like okay, Andrew, I
Speaker 1: think you touched on this thing right before we hit record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's truly like it's truly it completes me in
Speaker 1: this way that you that we're talking about this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, because I do feel very unmoored as an
Speaker 1: Asian now where it's just like I don't talk to
Speaker 1: I don't I just don't like interface with enough of
Speaker 1: any part of the culture anymore where I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's right, I grew up with chilled Asian pair. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well here's the other thing. Well, part of it is
Speaker 1: New York, yes, because Southern California a lot more Asian people, yes, uh, sorry,
Speaker 1: a lot more. I get where you're middle classy Asian
Speaker 1: people that like interact with the places you're likely to
Speaker 1: be um. And also I will say that this is
Speaker 1: the other part of it, is that there's this weird
Speaker 1: thing of like thea is that in southern California there's
Speaker 1: like kind of like pan Asian nous where hence the
Speaker 1: Koreans are like so there's not as much flattened into
Speaker 1: so there's not as much Chinese nous specifically, but like
Speaker 1: Mandarin speaking Chinese nous. Also we're like I don't know, wait, okay,
Speaker 1: we're just getting full. I love it. It's adding a
Speaker 1: texture to the conversation. It's adding a crunch, it's a literal.
Speaker 1: It's giving gravitas to an already like beautiful. This is
Speaker 1: literally top five best things. A. Wow, they're really good.
Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding. This is so good. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I love how big it is. They're the size of
Speaker 1: a softball, like regular I'm come on, as dense as
Speaker 1: a softball. Even yeah you can, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: kill someone, kill someone. It's heavy. It's heavy. They're very heavy,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of water. Sweet but not
Speaker 1: too sweet, sweep and not tweets. Okay, So while while
Speaker 1: these two while these two yellow like this is the
Speaker 1: perfect way to let you guys have space this conversation.
Speaker 1: It's just feed the non Chinese people. So we are
Speaker 1: quiet and we listen with support our listeners that are
Speaker 1: like anti me, like this is but do you guys
Speaker 1: please go free to trainment. Okay, So you're so Andrew
Speaker 1: and he was also getting Andrew also getting into your
Speaker 1: family Oh yes, yes, yes, and your and the family
Speaker 1: ILK or whatever it was. So my my my last
Speaker 1: name is T which no one else besides the people
Speaker 1: related to specifically my dad are named because it's like
Speaker 1: a weird transliteration right in the Chinese. Our name is
Speaker 1: d D. Yeah wait, I mean is that third tons
Speaker 1: a d D second second d um and it's it
Speaker 1: was like like the brief window in the seventies where
Speaker 1: they decided d's where tease. So like even people with
Speaker 1: my same Chinese last name would probably arrive at I
Speaker 1: don't know immigration in San Francisco today and be told
Speaker 1: they're like d I or D or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's briefing the seventies where they said mount
Speaker 1: said tongue yes, yes, yes, and and yeah, yeah exactly
Speaker 1: that that's the same character in fact that's been yeah,
Speaker 1: wrongly transliterate or whatever whatever, That doesn't matter. But the
Speaker 1: other thing is, so my family's like name is like
Speaker 1: basically like horse. It's like horse farmer kind of people.
Speaker 1: We were basically like aty Mongolians, like we would we
Speaker 1: would be the ones that didn't overthrow anyone, got it,
Speaker 1: which is honestly chiller. Oh my god, the nicer Mongolians.
Speaker 1: I think we're bad at it though. I think it's
Speaker 1: just bad being bad at being conqueror. I mean there's
Speaker 1: a fucking that is my vibe though, like kind of mean,
Speaker 1: like really bad at it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're a little better at it. I don't know, just's
Speaker 1: just soak in a cocktail like this would be this
Speaker 1: would do you know where I went last night? Tell
Speaker 1: us where sir? Oh you did it? And I had
Speaker 1: a Leshi Martini and I'm thinking, what we need is
Speaker 1: this pair. The Lichi martinis are so fucking done. I
Speaker 1: mean it's like they I think Asian pear martini martini
Speaker 1: or just again that one Asian pair and one shot
Speaker 1: of whiskey. Neat that's the mixed ring. And then here
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers off to the races, just you. She took
Speaker 1: her Asian whisky and mixed it with some kombucha, and
Speaker 1: now she's got a fine bourbon. I'm an innovator. There
Speaker 1: was this kombucha sitting here on the counter. Yes, is
Speaker 1: as a counter table. I'd call it a table, but
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to call it a counter
Speaker 1: sidled up to the culturalist discounter. We had like a
Speaker 1: staggered ways of taking the drink because it was a
Speaker 1: small amount. It was the end of it, on the
Speaker 1: end of a bottle. That so we split it between
Speaker 1: five folks and some people were badasses and took it
Speaker 1: like a shot. Are you yeah? You did more? Lovely
Speaker 1: full white friend Alex did right. I tried to sip it,
Speaker 1: but then I went one step further. I went one
Speaker 1: step towards soccer mom. I said, I need a spritzer.
Speaker 1: I said, put some Lacroix in my white wine. I
Speaker 1: can't possibly drink liquor straight. The next best thing was
Speaker 1: this kombucha, and now it's like a little bourbony whiskey
Speaker 1: ginger on. You found the classiest route. Congratulations, nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with a chaser. I have to say, listen, nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with the chaser. No, is there something wrong with this?
Speaker 1: Bear is so juicy, it's so you may I can't
Speaker 1: stop talking about it or thinking about stick. You guys
Speaker 1: may straight up need a roll of paper towel? Does
Speaker 1: that exist in this univerit? Can we get something with
Speaker 1: every body? I'm sucking the juice. I don't need to
Speaker 1: tape paper towel. Really enjoying this, enjoying the nectar. This
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. I swear to God, this is like a dessert.
Speaker 1: I'll never near ice cream again. I can't talk. I
Speaker 1: can't even describe to you. I mean it fully is
Speaker 1: dessert and a lot of Chinese it is. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: play the fruit chilled fruit been Matthew, where have we've been?
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I will say thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you for the napkins. So anyway, let me just last
Speaker 1: night it sir, Yes, Tuesday night? Okay, what kind of
Speaker 1: crazy women in bandage dresses hanging in from the ceiling.
Speaker 1: That's what the Wrong side of l A does real.
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll escape eventually, but it's crazy like Tuesday
Speaker 1: night was absolutely crazy. It was a scene and there
Speaker 1: was a wait for tables. I got there at eight
Speaker 1: p m. We had to wait twenty minutes with a reservation. Whoa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy. And then it got really more busy
Speaker 1: as it went on, and then I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: is this where they actually filmed Vanderpont Rules? That was
Speaker 1: that where that happens? I think that pump now probably,
Speaker 1: but it is the other one. What's the other one?
Speaker 1: I have to be honest with you, I do not
Speaker 1: watch the show, despite being a die hard Real House
Speaker 1: as a Beverly Hills fan, Um, I don't watch the show.
Speaker 1: But I'm confused as to wherever they filmed Vanderpont Rules. Like,
Speaker 1: is that service staff actually the cast of that show?
Speaker 1: I think they all think it was at one point,
Speaker 1: and now they have to like put in they have
Speaker 1: to like it's like they have to put in enough
Speaker 1: shifts to technically qualify as still a waiter. You know,
Speaker 1: you get paid servers wage on top of scale, honestly,
Speaker 1: and how and how? And it was a fun time.
Speaker 1: Would you eat? I had a lobster bisk and angel
Speaker 1: hair pasta dish. What was the sauce um? Still obster besk? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just double biscuits. But I'm really I'm really, um, I'm
Speaker 1: really kind of finding that in l A you can't
Speaker 1: go out to eat without spending less than thirty five dollars.
Speaker 1: Like all unch are expensive. I'm gonna say this. I
Speaker 1: know I've come in extra Chinese hot today, but but
Speaker 1: l A, if you get ethnic ship, you can eat better,
Speaker 1: and you can eat for less than thirty five dollars.
Speaker 1: That's straight up why I live in Koreatown. Yeah, beautiful
Speaker 1: to consider it. Here. Here's my food line is, as
Speaker 1: long as we're talking New York, l A. New York
Speaker 1: is way better if you're spending more than let's just
Speaker 1: for inflation, since I lived their last forty five dollars
Speaker 1: per person, you're spending more than forty five dollars per
Speaker 1: person in New York is way better if you're spending
Speaker 1: less than thirty five you know, I used to say
Speaker 1: twenty five. But yeah, but if're just spending less than
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars, l A is way better. Really. That's
Speaker 1: the windows, the Yeah, that's the sweet spot. Yes, where
Speaker 1: you sort of hit but just just go to go
Speaker 1: to like you know, strip malls and and all that
Speaker 1: stuff and like and and as long as you don't
Speaker 1: think of like the dinner as having to be part
Speaker 1: of the entertainment portion of the night out, Like go
Speaker 1: get a good meal for cheap and then go to
Speaker 1: a box because it will be next to a car wash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it will not be like, yeah, it's not a scene.
Speaker 1: It's like the food, yeah, because the places that are
Speaker 1: scenes are not good for good food. Well. The strip
Speaker 1: mall aspect of l A culture is is I think
Speaker 1: one of the most overwhelming things for me as sure,
Speaker 1: coming where I'm just like there's so many yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's there seems like it seems like there's cool stuff
Speaker 1: and all of them. You got your dentists, yeah you yes,
Speaker 1: you got your thank to a dentists, sucking immigration lawyers, um,
Speaker 1: and you want to go to all of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how they have the one spot. I'm gonna set
Speaker 1: my pairs down, turned yours into like a delightful little
Speaker 1: meteor pairs. When I'm eating parents, is that I like
Speaker 1: to eat all the skin first, and then you go
Speaker 1: for our further. But then you but then you're just
Speaker 1: holding on to you got you got your grip on
Speaker 1: something sticky the whole west rest of the way with
Speaker 1: a full zucchini, I just want to get that tough
Speaker 1: flavorless down can say I'm high risk. Okay, well I'm
Speaker 1: sorry Tony. You eat you eat this zucchini rong. No,
Speaker 1: I was just trying to participate. Oh, I was very concerned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be I have a way. I have a way.
Speaker 1: We can literally truly toss Tawny into participating, and that's
Speaker 1: by asking the question. So on less culture Asis, we
Speaker 1: ask all of our guests a question. That question is
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say? Culture was
Speaker 1: for you? This is the defining pop culture of your
Speaker 1: life that you can like think back and think, oh
Speaker 1: I am who I am probably because of my media
Speaker 1: diet at this crucial time, and what did that include? Um? So,
Speaker 1: I do think that it was trying to just uh replicate,
Speaker 1: trying to only listen to music that my mother was
Speaker 1: listening to, and not because it was all good, but
Speaker 1: because it was all things that my mother liked and
Speaker 1: I liked her. I wanted to relate. I wanted to relate.
Speaker 1: I liked her, I liked when she played things, and
Speaker 1: I felt like a little grown up. So and this
Speaker 1: is gonna swing wild, So I need you to buckle up.
Speaker 1: I love that that's how that's how I do. It's
Speaker 1: it's not a safe ride. This is a go kart word. Okay. Um,
Speaker 1: So let's start with a Stevie Wonder Catter than July
Speaker 1: songs in the key of life, those around heavy rotation
Speaker 1: in my home. We're doing good so far. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about Anita Baker, Oh my god, caught up in the
Speaker 1: Rapture of you. I was like twelve years old wearing
Speaker 1: my mom's and we have a musician. It taught me
Speaker 1: to saying. It taught me to close my nose when
Speaker 1: I sing. It taught me to close my eyes and
Speaker 1: never open them when I sing. So those so we're
Speaker 1: doing okay. Then we're gonna swing wide and we're going
Speaker 1: to go to Toto. We're also all of it. We're
Speaker 1: also going to dive deep into the eagles, and then
Speaker 1: we're also going to give you a swipe of Tricia
Speaker 1: year would So this was my CD changer, is what
Speaker 1: you're hearing, and its five CD changer. Yeah, it actually
Speaker 1: was a six CD changer in which I probably put
Speaker 1: the sticks Greatest Hits album and the number so you know,
Speaker 1: it was my mother's wide swinging musical taste one time,
Speaker 1: when I was thirteen years old, she went to a
Speaker 1: Parliament Funkadelic concert and she got it signed for me.
Speaker 1: I did not know who they were. But after that,
Speaker 1: you better believe, I learned better believe. I said, I
Speaker 1: want to know who these men are? Who said Tony
Speaker 1: go and get it girl? I want to know who
Speaker 1: George Clinton is now? And then I found out, um so,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but it's Clinton. Yes, it did not make
Speaker 1: me popular. It did make my mother and I able
Speaker 1: to bond um and I still hold some of those albums.
Speaker 1: Popular with your mom is still popular? Still popular? Ever?
Speaker 1: Want I want to dive into once particular musicals. You've
Speaker 1: mentioned musical arts that I'd like to discuss this Trisu
Speaker 1: Year would yes? Please please? We started this in the
Speaker 1: halland we have to continue. We did because I sang
Speaker 1: a little bit of how do I Live? And then
Speaker 1: you threw at me. I pounced like a jaguar. You
Speaker 1: had said, when you sing how do you how do
Speaker 1: I live? What is the canon for you? Is it
Speaker 1: lean rhymes? Is it Treasha Year? Would? And I unfortunately
Speaker 1: had to respond to leanne rhymes. Now understand, I grew
Speaker 1: up on Long Island, where the pop sensibility was going
Speaker 1: to take over. We really didn't know Treasia year Would,
Speaker 1: although I will say this, I first found out that
Speaker 1: Trisha year Would had a version of that song at
Speaker 1: the Oscars that year. Because the three nominated songs where
Speaker 1: I Think like Sunny came Home from How Do I Live?
Speaker 1: From conne Air performed by Trisia Yearwood on the Oscars,
Speaker 1: and the winner My Heart Will go On from Titanic,
Speaker 1: sung by famously Titana. It absolutely was really amazing year
Speaker 1: for cinema. Wait, I don't believe any of them. Why
Speaker 1: don't you look it up? Maybe I will? And My
Speaker 1: Heart Will Go On one? But how Do I Live?
Speaker 1: I remember watching and I was like, oh, that's not
Speaker 1: leon rhyme singing that song because Trisia Yearwood did it
Speaker 1: um in Conair. And I do enjoy Treasia Yearwood much
Speaker 1: more now. She's got one song called Georgian Rain that
Speaker 1: makes me cry, and one of my favorite songs of
Speaker 1: all time that really puts me through it is called
Speaker 1: this is Me you're talking to? Oh? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I remember with this so hard. I also don't know
Speaker 1: what we were talking about this a little bit. The
Speaker 1: division between the Leon Rhymes Heads and the and the
Speaker 1: yearwood Heads, Like, I feel like media did that to us.
Speaker 1: They made us war. I couldn't I couldn't find it.
Speaker 1: It's very hard to google. I truly can't. And you're drunk,
Speaker 1: don't do it drunk? Okay? So and what do you
Speaker 1: what for? Because I truly have no I'm someone who
Speaker 1: has no attunchman to either of these women explained the divide,
Speaker 1: explained the war. What is it? Is it purely the
Speaker 1: locus is the locus the song. I believe it must
Speaker 1: have started with the song, but there was also Now
Speaker 1: imagine little twelve year old Tonny trying to be my
Speaker 1: thirty two year old mother. Imagine back then, I feel
Speaker 1: like the Lean rhymes Is, the Dixie Chickses and even
Speaker 1: the Shanias were more in a pop country. They were
Speaker 1: a young word vibe. So the grown folks who were
Speaker 1: listening to Ship, who are listening to the Clint Blacks
Speaker 1: and the Garth Brooks and the George Straits and all
Speaker 1: these like silky voices who were really like considered the
Speaker 1: new traditionalists of country music, harkening back to the you know,
Speaker 1: the Lauretta Lens and the Dolly partners of it all.
Speaker 1: So when in the nineties we had these new traditionalists
Speaker 1: kind of re establishing the genre as less poppy, less uh,
Speaker 1: you know, suburban rock in a cowboy hat. Um. Then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you had these young poppy girls
Speaker 1: come up, and it was like, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: we're grabbing the Vince Gill, We're grabbing the silky voice
Speaker 1: Vince Gill of it all. Um. But so you can
Speaker 1: beat back at the poppy girls, we couldn't. And Leon
Speaker 1: Reims has a fantastic voice. I don't know why I
Speaker 1: was so mad at her. They were not only three nominees.
Speaker 1: It was Titanic, Will Go On Anastasia Journey to the Past,
Speaker 1: Connor How Do I Live? Good Will, Hunting, Miss Misery
Speaker 1: and Hercules Go the Distance. I don't know why I
Speaker 1: said that, um, but Titanic was the winner. And you
Speaker 1: know what I feel like, that whole era though, of
Speaker 1: music was like the posers versus the authenticity, that same conversation,
Speaker 1: that's the same thing people were saying about I don't
Speaker 1: know Nirvana and Pearl JAMS's Nelly and fifty cents exactly.
Speaker 1: Nellie was the poser in that scenario. I believe the
Speaker 1: band aid he never had an injury, which justify unhurt.
Speaker 1: It's an aesthetic ambellishment. It's okay. I also feel like
Speaker 1: fifty cent like in his lyrics, it's like, okay, you
Speaker 1: really have like fucked this way. Yeah, it's like Nellie,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, yeah, we gather that. Like
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's the difference between fifty cent and Nellie.
Speaker 1: You feel like fifty cent could actually tell you specifically
Speaker 1: what it tastes like when you give kind of lingus,
Speaker 1: whereas Nellie's like, when you go to a place with
Speaker 1: a lot of people gets warm in the room, he's
Speaker 1: literally shut up. He's imaginings like take off the clothes
Speaker 1: all alone, dates from the mirror. I think it's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, he's like, I think the way a temp
Speaker 1: but y'all works is when people get it in the
Speaker 1: room gets hot. That's good. Fifty cents like, tell orient
Speaker 1: over here because I have Yeah, I know that it works.
Speaker 1: Diff couch. I stared at the invitation of their palm
Speaker 1: prints on the couch, like the hemingway of that good
Speaker 1: candy shops woman. I HOMOPHOBI yeah, exactly, candy shops still
Speaker 1: quote unquote slaps. I mean a lot of these songs
Speaker 1: slap you know the shop. If you go back and
Speaker 1: listen to any Twain song, they all slap the I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get you to matter that I'm gonna get you Joe,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. You can bet you about him daughter,
Speaker 1: and I'm and gonna be man just like a should
Speaker 1: I get you good slap? You know? Okay, so you
Speaker 1: got a car that don't impress me much. Honestly, that
Speaker 1: don't impress on me much. Incredible, it's an incredible that's
Speaker 1: when impressed on you match the rap she does. It's
Speaker 1: literally like one to get on the floor, turn around,
Speaker 1: looks at the door. Yeah, it's a it's a dozy
Speaker 1: dope on the floor. There were so many. Also, do
Speaker 1: you know what is an underrated Naya bob which was
Speaker 1: later in her garb is a bob let's talk about it,
Speaker 1: keeping you forever for that's a ballot. Listen to it again. Okay,
Speaker 1: that just can be bob's excuse me, I will always
Speaker 1: love you, not a bob. I'll always love you is
Speaker 1: a bop that slaps. It's actually a rule of culture
Speaker 1: number eleven, I will always love you. That slaps I
Speaker 1: don't fully agree with that. I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: feel like I've never seen anyone to have to do
Speaker 1: something under so much dresses a hostage and I always
Speaker 1: love you, Fa And I will say this. I watched
Speaker 1: the Whitney's documentary on a vat. Of course, it ends
Speaker 1: so sad. We have you? Have you seen it? I
Speaker 1: actually seen it and left it. We've seen it play out,
Speaker 1: petting more details about that. You can't be better? Were
Speaker 1: we in this? Were we together? The night that she died?
Speaker 1: We were at Skindmore. We were at Skidmore. It was
Speaker 1: senior year at Skidmore and someone in the theater shouted,
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston just died. Okay, can I tell you something.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I wasn't the college. And the musical
Speaker 1: director of murat sad was like, this gay guy and
Speaker 1: you were at you were truly I can I can
Speaker 1: I say this? We've been through this so many times
Speaker 1: before this podcast. You were at your worst at that point.
Speaker 1: I was. But he literally goes, hey, guys, um, we're
Speaker 1: gonna run through the show and uh, dude, for Whitney.
Speaker 1: Remember remember like, and he was like, he turned over
Speaker 1: it looked at me and I was like, come on,
Speaker 1: I know who you're talking about. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: someone else, but it's someone are honestly, don't cut it out,
Speaker 1: but replace it with the sound of me chopping on
Speaker 1: this pair that it's very similar. I have to oh,
Speaker 1: here you go, here, you go here? Fast? Am I
Speaker 1: getting sloppy? Fast biting is the worst? And that was
Speaker 1: that was incredible, so good. There is no worse offender
Speaker 1: with eating loud than Bo Yang eats the loudest in
Speaker 1: the West. And don't bring race, but come to the
Speaker 1: East if you want to hear loud eating God like,
Speaker 1: just kidding. I don't want to go to the East.
Speaker 1: I do want to go to the East because I
Speaker 1: want bowen to. I want to go to the East
Speaker 1: because I want about with joy, he keeps he keeps
Speaker 1: like really kind of sticking it in and bringing it
Speaker 1: off about this, what do you mean I want to
Speaker 1: go to Shanghai Disneyland. We will go. He needs to go.
Speaker 1: It's cool. He needs to go to all the disneys.
Speaker 1: That's his thing, all the disneys. But also I think
Speaker 1: it's just outside of Shanghai. They have that like fake
Speaker 1: Paris that like is basically abandoned. Oh no, that's that's so,
Speaker 1: that's so post millennium Chinese that it's so bleak, and
Speaker 1: said it might might have been from the nineties of
Speaker 1: the eighties. No, no, it's it's like recent issues. It's
Speaker 1: like and it's abandoned. I don't it's either. I think
Speaker 1: it's like people never moved in and I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's all of Paris, but it's like a French some bullshit,
Speaker 1: because Chinese people are weirdly obsessed with France, but they
Speaker 1: can never execute it without it being so goddamn. It's
Speaker 1: the tackiest ass ship on earth. It's great. So this
Speaker 1: is like a haunted empty Paris with Chinese flavor. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: if if there was like a way to have cool
Speaker 1: Chinese cinema, it would be the setting for the best
Speaker 1: indie movie. Yes, ever, just like fake Paris that some
Speaker 1: communists decided they should build. God, I disagree. I thought
Speaker 1: the Meg was a fantastic The Meg you do own it.
Speaker 1: I own it. I bought it for nineteen American Dollarsby
Speaker 1: tried to make us watch this ship on New Year's Day,
Speaker 1: everyone was hungover, Andrew was coming, and then then did
Speaker 1: you in fact watch it? We did not. Everyone shot
Speaker 1: me down, But I okay, now walk us through the
Speaker 1: mag is very briefly, what makes it a great film.
Speaker 1: What makes it a great film is I was hungover
Speaker 1: one day. I had scrolled through every option on the iTunes, Netflix, HBO,
Speaker 1: Hulu offerings of movies. I had either seen every single
Speaker 1: fucking thing on an airplane or had no desire to
Speaker 1: see certain things. Then if we placed this in a
Speaker 1: time This was very soon after the Meg came out, Yes,
Speaker 1: after I came out and I said, oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want to watch that silly, fun romp movie on
Speaker 1: Old you know, marble Mouth Jason Statham. It's got cute
Speaker 1: little children in it that are smarter than they their years.
Speaker 1: You know this will be a fun thing, Rain Wilson,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's a romp with real cool c g
Speaker 1: I and a scary shark like the ocean, and these
Speaker 1: fun Chinese actors that they're trying to push on us. Yes,
Speaker 1: just like a djun. Yeah, she was great. She might
Speaker 1: be dead, guys, really hope she's like fully like disappeared
Speaker 1: by the government. In a way that's like, who knows,
Speaker 1: it's very scary. I had it set in my heart,
Speaker 1: in my in my mind that I needed to see
Speaker 1: The Meg and no other film would do. Because I
Speaker 1: scrolled to the end of Netflix. And when I finally
Speaker 1: convinced my husband, I said, this is what we're going
Speaker 1: to rent. He was like okay, And I went to
Speaker 1: rent it and you could only buy it. Only buy it,
Speaker 1: and I said, I'm not going through this mental hell again.
Speaker 1: This is our purgatory and we have to do this.
Speaker 1: So we own The Meg. The only other films we
Speaker 1: own our Paddington too, and uh and l a story
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, I heard, it's great, it was fun.
Speaker 1: We mentioned when my nephew was in town. It was
Speaker 1: around you've you've made purchases after browsing fatigue, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: And it was a twenty dollar shark film that I
Speaker 1: have now watched twice. And I try to put my
Speaker 1: friends through whenever possible, right, I mean, I think you
Speaker 1: were figuring your New Year's Day party is a big
Speaker 1: gathering for your house, and if we're amortizing it by eyeballs,
Speaker 1: making everyone at that party watch it is the only
Speaker 1: way you're ever going to come close to recouping exactly
Speaker 1: trying to get my money back. No, man, Andrew like
Speaker 1: the way you can reason through these things. It's truly
Speaker 1: I just truly beautiful. It's truly beautiful. Okay. Should we
Speaker 1: move on to Andrew with the culture question? I think
Speaker 1: we should, although I could talk about Mr Tricia for
Speaker 1: and I do want to say. I just want to
Speaker 1: tell all the cultures to listeners that there are a
Speaker 1: couple live performances of this is me you're talking to
Speaker 1: and Tricia gives you a performance, especially the performance which
Speaker 1: is just acoustic with a guitar. She gives you everything
Speaker 1: you need. It's a beautiful song. I listened to it
Speaker 1: in some vulnerable times after my relation ended and whoa baby?
Speaker 1: It says something very specific lyrically, and we love that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of relationship, Tricia songs everyone Elso needs to listen
Speaker 1: to Where Your Road Leads that she sings with her
Speaker 1: now husband Arth Brooks. That is a real moment with
Speaker 1: some live versions of him, where she comes out of
Speaker 1: like a missed build orchestra section at the whatever Staple
Speaker 1: Center wherever it is. Also, you gotta listen to Georgia
Speaker 1: Raine people because there's a line at the anim where
Speaker 1: she she's like seeing a lover after many years that
Speaker 1: she hasn't seen him. She goes, looks like, you made
Speaker 1: yourself a real good life. What else can I say?
Speaker 1: The georger on a chess boky, it's so good. Also,
Speaker 1: listen to walk Away Joe that pous just to walk
Speaker 1: away Joe, I wanna believe it from the works, and
Speaker 1: do to see that he's a round kind of pair
Speaker 1: does he's going on? Megan Matter? That boy is just
Speaker 1: a luck away. I had to get in on one
Speaker 1: you guys. I'm sorry. I love it when both of
Speaker 1: you guys show that was really I just I just
Speaker 1: took that in. And speaking of we'll do another plug.
Speaker 1: Towny's other podcast, the Supergroup, where she makes songs with
Speaker 1: comedians we do we Make Box is out. I Believe
Speaker 1: for free now, yes, you watch it for free because
Speaker 1: it was was it was I'm realizing the last two
Speaker 1: times I've seen you have been miracle times that I've
Speaker 1: just run into you. The last this time before we
Speaker 1: ran into her at the iconic moment where we went
Speaker 1: Tawny Vancouver. Before that was when I did Paul f
Speaker 1: Tompkins is spontaneous Nation, and I didn't know that Tonny
Speaker 1: traveled with the show, but she was improvising at the
Speaker 1: Bellhouse and I was like, who's here? Then I said
Speaker 1: Tommy and it was such a fun said I drive
Speaker 1: the bus. You do not do bus? Can you imagine
Speaker 1: PAULA Tompkins on a bus? Absolutely disagree. I think it's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine him on a wrinkles, too hard for
Speaker 1: him to sit for that. Are you kidding me? Sitting
Speaker 1: on the bus and sear sucker? What do you think
Speaker 1: he travels in? He travels in full look his home,
Speaker 1: and I've only ever seen him with a slight unbuttoned call. Okay,
Speaker 1: see that'sim, Elizabeth Holme shut like he's wearing a turtle.
Speaker 1: I literally, when I was out getting breakfast with Greta Titleman,
Speaker 1: I saw Paul Tompkins and I wanted I said Paul hey,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't him, and I was like, oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you just look exactly like Paul left Tompkins and he
Speaker 1: was like who. I was like, I'm sorry, but if
Speaker 1: you literally look like Paul yeah, like Paul Tompkins, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Wait, went down to the dapperness
Speaker 1: and all that it was him. I could I could
Speaker 1: see Paul driving a bus in a costume before I
Speaker 1: could see him sitting on a bus. That's true. He
Speaker 1: could play a character. He could play Miss Frizzle's boyfriend
Speaker 1: who from Yeah but no, but Paul is none a bus.
Speaker 1: Paul is a penny farthing. That's yeah, the deal, but
Speaker 1: a penny farthing bus. Two big front wheels, wheels, so beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 1: We asked the question, Andrew t what was the culture
Speaker 1: that made you say? Culture? Was for me the same
Speaker 1: question as Tony. But the time for you, this is
Speaker 1: going to be wrong because I I went ahead and
Speaker 1: to prepare for this was listening to when you guys
Speaker 1: had Andy Beckerman and Naomiic, two lovely folks, and you
Speaker 1: guys asked them the question what's the culture that you know?
Speaker 1: And there are a couple, so so maybe that was
Speaker 1: more anyway, So, but you asked them what was the
Speaker 1: culture that sort of binds you together? We had already
Speaker 1: had Naomi on Oh god, I got it, I see,
Speaker 1: I see, But do you want to answer this questions?
Speaker 1: So that's why I was trying to think of the
Speaker 1: culture that binds and will answer that and then answer
Speaker 1: it for yourself if you have. You know what, honestly,
Speaker 1: the actual pop culture thing that buids us together might
Speaker 1: genuinely be Paul Hankins. Wow, I think it kind of is.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful because like we have very little overlapping in
Speaker 1: music taste. Um, not like not that we hate, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like it's not as much my thing. Sure,
Speaker 1: and kind of the same with movies. I don't even know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like you know, I watched all those like Marvel
Speaker 1: movies and whatnot, and you famously have. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: the other thing is is camping. I think, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not not that we were. We were we were like,
Speaker 1: you know, really good like podcast friends. And then Tanny
Speaker 1: it was during the last meteor shower, during the last
Speaker 1: meteor shower. It's in August. It's Tanny and her husband
Speaker 1: are really amazing like outdoors people, and so she organized
Speaker 1: the little trip that I went on, and I kind
Speaker 1: of like rekindled like then I went. Since then, I've
Speaker 1: like I bought my own tent. I got like a knife,
Speaker 1: you got a knife, got a knife, got a good night,
Speaker 1: good NiFe. This is straight up fucking wait making. I
Speaker 1: don't know about this. I'm anti weapon. What's the tools
Speaker 1: for cutting your giant Asian pair? And what do we
Speaker 1: think about that? Well, look at me already trucking along,
Speaker 1: having already ever consumed this entire pair. I needed to night.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the mouth not I want to
Speaker 1: cut something from my hand and I want to get something, honey,
Speaker 1: a scissor. Okay, So this is matts Okay as to be,
Speaker 1: I would say, Matt, Matt and I are very outdoor verse.
Speaker 1: Not we're not that we're we have a version to
Speaker 1: the outdoors, but we we would never it would never
Speaker 1: occur to us camping. I wouldn't. I wouldn't rather or
Speaker 1: be out there. So talk through this, talk through the appeal.
Speaker 1: It was well, so I was a like boy scout
Speaker 1: but kind of under duress and like I hated it,
Speaker 1: and like everyone like I just like I didn't like
Speaker 1: being there. And instead of um doing my senior project
Speaker 1: that or the project which takes a year, I like
Speaker 1: fully just did LSD instead. I was just like, funk this,
Speaker 1: I'm dropping on on boy scouts and literally I'm going
Speaker 1: to do every second that I would Otherwise I've been
Speaker 1: in boy Scouts, I'm going to be doing you were
Speaker 1: a team doing d Yeah, I was like, what's your
Speaker 1: relationship with it now? But before we like, I haven't
Speaker 1: done it in a long time. But I'm not against
Speaker 1: We're we're like a new sort of I mean, we
Speaker 1: haven't done a psychedelogy twice. Two weeks ago was a
Speaker 1: little bit. Um was a little bit more up and
Speaker 1: down than it was the first time I did it.
Speaker 1: Do you think that it was too much or just
Speaker 1: like not, No, it was it was an environment thing.
Speaker 1: It was reigning outside and we were cooped up in
Speaker 1: a house and I would like to have the option
Speaker 1: to go to about you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: then like we could, but it was just like I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, So I have a really different and
Speaker 1: I think not typical association with guff like that because
Speaker 1: I was doing it a lot as a teenager, and
Speaker 1: that means I was doing it kind of a lot,
Speaker 1: like by myself and often in my room and ship
Speaker 1: like that. Um and because and this is gonna, I know,
Speaker 1: this is bonkers the thing I want to say next,
Speaker 1: But it's like I would do I did a lot
Speaker 1: of acid because I actually in my like bad. Logic
Speaker 1: at the time was like, oh, this is like the
Speaker 1: least I'm least likely to get caught doing this because
Speaker 1: it has very little physical paraphernalia. It's a little tiny
Speaker 1: piece of paper. So my logic was just like, well,
Speaker 1: they're not you know, they're not going to find even
Speaker 1: a lighter, you know, or any other dummies have like
Speaker 1: a handle of vodka stuff. So I just LSD all
Speaker 1: the time. So I would like like the most claciation,
Speaker 1: just like listen to the Velvet Underground and Beyond Acid
Speaker 1: and like look at like pop art and like watch
Speaker 1: a little bit of TV but not much. Yeah, truly
Speaker 1: bonkers ship by myself. So I like being cooped up
Speaker 1: when I'm on psychedelics. But it's also I was like
Speaker 1: in a very comfortable place, and I still kind of
Speaker 1: maintained that, like all my friends like to like do
Speaker 1: mushrooms and walk around, and I'm like, last time I
Speaker 1: did mushrooms. I literally listen to comedy like stand up
Speaker 1: on Spotify just like and it just started like I
Speaker 1: was just like like I'm not you know, I like
Speaker 1: him as a person, but like Anthony doesn't like stand
Speaker 1: up isn't like exactly my speed but that we were
Speaker 1: listening to it was so funny. I was just like,
Speaker 1: I love this ship. It's fucking incredible. It was like
Speaker 1: an old album that that was, you know that kind
Speaker 1: of the dated and was like dated, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: problematic in many ways. I'm sure I don't remember it
Speaker 1: because I was on drugs. You the stuff tails with
Speaker 1: you actually camping because during the piece of the whole
Speaker 1: point of it's not he's straight up at eight PM,
Speaker 1: was like, I don't give a funk about them rocks.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bed. Went to bed both nights. I
Speaker 1: was like two stoned and I was just like I'm
Speaker 1: going to bed, and everyone's like, are you sure, And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I ask you guys. In the morning,
Speaker 1: I built like a viewing past these cushioned like laying that.
Speaker 1: I had all these outdoor pillows. I wanted this bohemian
Speaker 1: I wanted my like Coachella. I wanted like my mountainous
Speaker 1: outdoor looking at the meteors smoking weed. Coachella. There's nothing
Speaker 1: more Coachella than someone being too fucked up to beat
Speaker 1: to get Yeah. I love that about you. You're a
Speaker 1: good because you don't like you're not like what are
Speaker 1: we doing now, or what's next or win's dinner? Like
Speaker 1: you just do whatever the fuck which is the best, okay,
Speaker 1: but like I can't get past just like the the
Speaker 1: survivalist aspect of is that that that's not the right word,
Speaker 1: but like that really like just like the the like
Speaker 1: that there's a difficulty in a lot of basic functions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like being uncomfortable. Well, so for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: First of all, if you go with Tony and does
Speaker 1: does he like having his name mentioned on podcast? He
Speaker 1: doesn't have a choice at this point. His name is Nate. Look,
Speaker 1: they have they have like such a comfortable set up there.
Speaker 1: They're like the people that have like five of everything,
Speaker 1: so you can't even forget something. Now we got it,
Speaker 1: you know, and we went to uh that campsite was
Speaker 1: it's as easy as yeah, instead of it's not like
Speaker 1: a k o a where you've got like kids and
Speaker 1: water slides and ship. But it is a very comfortable.
Speaker 1: It's car camping, you know, so you're bringing all your
Speaker 1: stuff in your car. You're right there and like we
Speaker 1: make a full huge meal. We don't go like, oh
Speaker 1: we're outdoors, everyone eat a hot dog. We made like
Speaker 1: very extravagant food because that's part of it, Like you
Speaker 1: want to sit and just like eat and the meal.
Speaker 1: Oh we did am so I did collared greens. I
Speaker 1: always famously away. Um what else was in that? Mean?
Speaker 1: We also did a huge Thanksgiving camp out, so I'm
Speaker 1: miss that one. Let's say there was. There was the
Speaker 1: first the first night, like a full union work. We've
Speaker 1: been sitting at this table for four days. Uh Nate's
Speaker 1: friend whose name escapes right now, made like had brought
Speaker 1: like all this crazy. So we had tacos the first
Speaker 1: night and then sausages raised things we have like we
Speaker 1: usually do, like a reduced like braised mushrooms thing which
Speaker 1: you can either put over the meat or like for
Speaker 1: the vegetarians, like it's kind of an entree on it's
Speaker 1: only the big King oyster mushrooms from the h Mart.
Speaker 1: Thank you pears and pears, Thank you pears. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but I will say, okay, so for people who are
Speaker 1: like the outdoors isn't for me, and maybe it truly isn't,
Speaker 1: but if you have the right gear and it does
Speaker 1: take a little bit of shuffling. I definitely went through
Speaker 1: phases where I had the wrong things, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like sitting in these trash chairs. Just because
Speaker 1: it had a cup holder, I thought I would buy it,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, but what I always say about camping
Speaker 1: and like, I also like to do backpacking where your
Speaker 1: everything and you really can get away from people. The
Speaker 1: most beautiful things to see on this planet either they
Speaker 1: cost one of two things, either a ton of money
Speaker 1: or a ton of effort. And I don't have the
Speaker 1: first thing. So I would rather spend as much effort,
Speaker 1: like hiking to a thing, or like bringing all my
Speaker 1: food in weird containers and pitching a tent in order
Speaker 1: to see like these beautiful vistas, or go to the
Speaker 1: top of certain mountains that other people can only get
Speaker 1: to with like a helicopter. You know, I am interested
Speaker 1: in seeing beautiful things. However, I would like to ask
Speaker 1: you about another element of the world. Don't say no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say barras. However, I am going
Speaker 1: to say coyotes. So so just to illustrate there, just
Speaker 1: to illustrate how like fully fully safe this campsite is
Speaker 1: the first night we forgot to put away like half
Speaker 1: of our food food very sto setting out on touched
Speaker 1: and raccoons. Yeah, literally, not even raccoons. I will say
Speaker 1: that one time, camping up Big Sir, I did see
Speaker 1: a raccoon steal to not one, but two bags of
Speaker 1: family sized funions from some food next to a raccoon.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like it's shust it away a coyote.
Speaker 1: You will not sh raccoon. You think you. A raccoon
Speaker 1: is so bold. A raccoon gives no funs about you.
Speaker 1: A raccoon can practically talk. Their thumbs are so opposable
Speaker 1: they almost have speech. A raccoon will stay in your face,
Speaker 1: you will climb on a picnic table. You just have
Speaker 1: to stand and wait for him to go away. World,
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what I happened upon the other day,
Speaker 1: I went through a for a hike um Griffith Park. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I happened upon on this hike happened to be
Speaker 1: a different level in here too long. And then we
Speaker 1: had the pears. We're looking at you guys floating in
Speaker 1: outer space on the amazing the back. So there is
Speaker 1: like they're just floating brains and that's where we are.
Speaker 1: I feel relatively grounded. But you talk about this HOWK
Speaker 1: Speaking of floating. This hawk was flying in mid air.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this. Hawks can just stay
Speaker 1: in one spot in the air without even They are,
Speaker 1: in fact like a kite and the other original germ.
Speaker 1: And you know what happens on hikes many people bring
Speaker 1: will bring their dogs with them. Yes, oh yeah. It
Speaker 1: was clear to me I'm trying that the hawks were
Speaker 1: trying to eat the dogs. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: said to Greta. I said to Greta, it was me,
Speaker 1: Greta and Blair and Abe. And I said to Greta
Speaker 1: and Blair and I was like, have you ever seen
Speaker 1: a hawk attack a dog? And they had to report
Speaker 1: to me that yes, they had seen this. And I said,
Speaker 1: to the dog, make it, and they had to report
Speaker 1: to me that no, the dog in fact did not
Speaker 1: make it. It was just ship that stood no chance
Speaker 1: against the hawk. And then I said, well, that hawk's
Speaker 1: not going to attack our dogs, of which we had
Speaker 1: to how big were they? And I said they want
Speaker 1: to tack our dogs and they said, we don't know that,
Speaker 1: And at which point in time they picked up their
Speaker 1: dog held them close to their chest and that was
Speaker 1: the only way they could be confident knowing that the
Speaker 1: hawk's not going to attack kill dogs. Know there's something
Speaker 1: about this story. The two dogs are named Bernie and Tiny,
Speaker 1: and they live up to their names. Bernie and that
Speaker 1: he's like a Bernie Sanders older dog, and Tiny and
Speaker 1: that he's very small. I voted for that first. Who
Speaker 1: was I supposed to vote for? We don't know. Um
Speaker 1: I have seen. I thought this was just a cute,
Speaker 1: cie thing, but maybe it's a real You can get
Speaker 1: like dog sweaters that have little spikes on the back.
Speaker 1: And at first I thought it was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: like a punk ha ha ha. But now I'm like, actually,
Speaker 1: it's also anti coyote. I lived in the country. This
Speaker 1: is also probably why I don't have such an aversion
Speaker 1: to camping, because they basically grew up camping. My life
Speaker 1: was camping. I grew up outside. But our neighbor had
Speaker 1: a bunch of sheep and they would put a similar thing,
Speaker 1: probably not as expensive or cute, but like a spiky
Speaker 1: kind of cute, like a spiky jacket or like a shawl.
Speaker 1: Basically just a bunch of spikes on it. It's like
Speaker 1: a leather jacket, but right, but for function for dogs, dogs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a functional leather jacket like Fonzie. Yeah, had a natural predator. Yes,
Speaker 1: hawks did you grow up Michigan, Michigan? And then and
Speaker 1: the parents were what first gen? Just just putting through
Speaker 1: this is it's wild that I still don't know which
Speaker 1: is which they immigrated. So I had to like figure
Speaker 1: this out from I had to define for myself once
Speaker 1: and for all. First generation is them, They're the first
Speaker 1: immigrant generation. I'm second generation. I'm second got it. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous that I don't know that. It's crazy that
Speaker 1: I didn't know this until very recently. Yes, I always
Speaker 1: thought it was like the first generation that is born here.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I thought. I think it's formal technically,
Speaker 1: like the the agree to pun definition is the first
Speaker 1: to emigrated. No, that makes sense? Um I yeah. My parents,
Speaker 1: uh I met in Michigan in I mean back of
Speaker 1: the envelope had to be the seventies or maybe the
Speaker 1: late sixties. I guess the free pre there was this
Speaker 1: whole like thing where my parents like couldn't think there
Speaker 1: was a time in China where you could not so
Speaker 1: they well, no, no, the shitty horse people. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so so that was that. That's my dad's family. They
Speaker 1: were on the rang losing let's say, wrong side, wrong,
Speaker 1: I'm losing side of the Chinese Civil War. So they
Speaker 1: my dad grew up in Taiwan, but he he was
Speaker 1: I didn't. I only found this out like a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. He was like straight up a refugee
Speaker 1: for like the my my youngest and worst aunt, Uh
Speaker 1: was born in a fucking refugee camp on like like
Speaker 1: the beaches of Taiwan. I was just like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is where I'm being. And she went on to marry
Speaker 1: a white guy who's really I mean, if he was
Speaker 1: on our show, that's his name is family white uncle Michael.
Speaker 1: That's probably why she married him, because she's like, beats
Speaker 1: a refugee camp. He doesn't. But I hear that. I
Speaker 1: understand how you could think that. Yeah, okay, so your
Speaker 1: dad basically so he grew up into in Taipei, Uh.
Speaker 1: And then my mom sort of similar. I don't know
Speaker 1: all the etymology of her chaos, but she grew up
Speaker 1: she was born outside of Hong Kong, but like grew
Speaker 1: up in Hong Kong in like, so my paternal grandfather
Speaker 1: or maternal grandfather who I've never met, h and he did.
Speaker 1: He did die a couple of years ago. I think
Speaker 1: Um straight up used like World War two to just
Speaker 1: be like start a new family. So he just disappeared,
Speaker 1: abandoned my grandma with like five kids. And so my
Speaker 1: grandma was a single mom in the fifties and fucking
Speaker 1: Hong Kong with five kids, which is like it's like
Speaker 1: in the mood for love, but the most depressing version
Speaker 1: of that ship. So yeah, so they're like and so um,
Speaker 1: both my parents met in Michigan and they were just
Speaker 1: like fuck it, we're like the only ten Chinese people here,
Speaker 1: so someone's got to pair off eventually. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: know they love each other. Well, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to say. It's like very immigrant where they're like they
Speaker 1: kind of tolerate each other and like whatever. Hard to
Speaker 1: imagine that, yeah, but yeah, hard to imagine them like
Speaker 1: liking each other at any point. But who knows whatever,
Speaker 1: they won't tell me. So right, it's that thing where
Speaker 1: it was like you grow up with these Chinese parents
Speaker 1: who like have their weird things about showing affection to
Speaker 1: each other or to you in ways that they refute,
Speaker 1: like they withhold that. But then you see that sort
Speaker 1: of being normal in other Chinese immigrant families, and so
Speaker 1: you think that's normal, Yeah, it's not. Yeah, yeah, oh
Speaker 1: god yeahs And how your parents were, Yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: them kiss maybe once, that's not true. Absolutely, yeah. I
Speaker 1: think zero times. My parents, uh stopped sleeping in the
Speaker 1: same room. I think when I was like eight, And
Speaker 1: I think it was only because we moved to a
Speaker 1: house where that was an option. Sure, and it's the same,
Speaker 1: and like I feel like it you sort of are
Speaker 1: at peace with it as a as a child of
Speaker 1: that kind of marriage, because you're just like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It's truly, like the circumstances are wild, and
Speaker 1: like they probably had to only think in practical terms
Speaker 1: rather than like you have to think of a man
Speaker 1: who emotionally like someone who a partner who can emotionally
Speaker 1: fulfill them in whatever. God, yeah, I mean are And
Speaker 1: I think all of my grandparents had arranged marriages. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: my grandma my dad's side for sure, not my my
Speaker 1: maternal side, but yeah, but crazy. So it's like for
Speaker 1: them they're like, yeah, we at least got a choice
Speaker 1: some kind ro mantic um gorgeous. Okay, Can I say
Speaker 1: something that I've been thinking about Fonsie's natural predator is
Speaker 1: a hawk? Was the Time's Up movement? Okay, explain this
Speaker 1: because he was a misogynist and he was walking about.
Speaker 1: Probably should. As far as we know, Henry Well actually
Speaker 1: famously Henry Winkler and the fons are two different people.
Speaker 1: It's actually real culture number Henry famously different people. It
Speaker 1: was just making sure that we were we were conflating. No, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I just wanted for the listeners and
Speaker 1: of course well versed in all the rules of culture. Yes,
Speaker 1: I would never talk down to my listeners and assume
Speaker 1: they didn't know that famously, how many one the Fonds
Speaker 1: were two different people, and I will say that it's
Speaker 1: actually a real culture number. One hundred and one. The
Speaker 1: Fonds is natural was the Times Up movements. Had we
Speaker 1: been dealing with the Funds in the Times of Era,
Speaker 1: that show would have been shut down. Happy Days are
Speaker 1: here again, Happy Days are never more. I thought you
Speaker 1: were proposing a maybe like a spec reboot of Happy Days. YEA. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm going to write the spectrum of Happy Days where
Speaker 1: the Funds tries and someone says no, you know what
Speaker 1: no means? No fonds and he says, hey, what do
Speaker 1: you mean. That's that's what he famously said, that's the
Speaker 1: thing that makes it to Twitter and then exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: it's like the snaky getting punched in the face. That's
Speaker 1: the thing, right, we never would have been consuming that
Speaker 1: is entertainment nowadays. Now I do think Tony and Andrew,
Speaker 1: do you know all the rules of culture? What's what's
Speaker 1: your favorite? Rule? Our favorite obviously clearly four yes, there
Speaker 1: are you? Okay? Or seven is good to pay out okay,
Speaker 1: probably every time. At the same time, yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: Asian pears go in, Yes, that is wrong. Rule number one,
Speaker 1: famously Richards is can I think we I think we
Speaker 1: boot it and we do Asian pears coming pears. I'm
Speaker 1: mixed up. That's just it's three. Can I say something?
Speaker 1: These Asian pars cam in a trio, so we hair
Speaker 1: your knuckle heads heads eating them? What are some what
Speaker 1: are some other Asian foods that we should that should
Speaker 1: that deserve to be popular? What do you think about
Speaker 1: the the uh, the pineapple cake. Oh, I don't think
Speaker 1: I've had that. It's like it's like the little oh,
Speaker 1: the tartlet, the egg custer, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the but pine the pineapple. It's it's like a brick
Speaker 1: of dense pineapple. Oh, it's like a fake Newton but
Speaker 1: slightly bigger. And you have it. You have a dim sum.
Speaker 1: Uh No, that's like a one of the one of
Speaker 1: the festival's food. It doesn't matter. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying lately. No one dragged me. Oh so,
Speaker 1: sure would that's the Hong Kong pineapple bond. That's different.
Speaker 1: I'll look it up. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a fake Newton,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's like fake Newton with pineapple in it.
Speaker 1: And I would just say they're kind of like like
Speaker 1: maybe not quite sweet enough for a Western palette. But
Speaker 1: I actually think crushed up in like a ice cream
Speaker 1: or something a soft serve would be would be perfect
Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles area right now. This um, the
Speaker 1: internet says that this is a Taiwanese treat. That that explains.
Speaker 1: I got that info from an Internet site called the
Speaker 1: Walks of Life. So I don't know. I wish we
Speaker 1: didn't do. I don't know this this is I actually say,
Speaker 1: put a pin in that that make him come up
Speaker 1: in a one minute. It doesn't matter in Epcot. In
Speaker 1: Epcot there is a a China pavilion, and the wh
Speaker 1: when you do that, when you do drinking around the
Speaker 1: world at Epcots, it is custom in Epcot, is the
Speaker 1: culture of Epcot to drink one cocktail from each pavilion,
Speaker 1: so that by the time you get around you've had eleven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and how did the one that that's not continents or no,
Speaker 1: no countries, but just well, yeah, they picked an emblematic
Speaker 1: countries off the already Mexico, Norway, China. Then I believe
Speaker 1: comes then it gets funny for me. I know there's
Speaker 1: a Morocco, I know there's a France. I know there's
Speaker 1: in England. I know there's a United States pavilion. I
Speaker 1: know there's a Japan, there's a UM Canada, there is
Speaker 1: Canada made Francia. Canada has a pavilion. What you just
Speaker 1: drink CC all day whiskey? Literally, I think when I
Speaker 1: was a blue get out of town. But anyway, the Chinese,
Speaker 1: did you would you guys were in Canada, did you
Speaker 1: did you notice that there are other colors of labat
Speaker 1: This might be because we were in Vancouver that we
Speaker 1: were it's a little more so where when I grew
Speaker 1: up in Michigan, the drinking age in Canada's nineteen so
Speaker 1: we would drive across the Actually we were in the
Speaker 1: one place where you can drive down to go to
Speaker 1: Canada down. Michigan is like that under the some I
Speaker 1: guess technically anyways, labatte green and ship Oh, that's insane.
Speaker 1: I don't know what flavors they are. I assume apple. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's flavor seems like non alcoholic to me. It might
Speaker 1: be a very well might Canadian listeners pack into the
Speaker 1: geo cashing and I don't know what they offer as
Speaker 1: a cocktail. There is cantalope juice with vodka. Nothing is
Speaker 1: that a thing? Thank you? Sweets? Chinese people like improbable juices.
Speaker 1: See we've been juices. You can you can go to
Speaker 1: the you can go to the Chinese store, the ranch
Speaker 1: out in the San Gabriel Valley. You can get like
Speaker 1: a pint of Kiwi juice that sounds lovely. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's weirdly too sweet and too acidic at the same time.
Speaker 1: But because like it's a lot of it's like, probably
Speaker 1: I don't like an aggressive juice. It's really aggressive, Okay,
Speaker 1: but go to the candle up thing not at all
Speaker 1: emblematic of Chinese. Yeah, but it was weird. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what I was expecting there. But I was like,
Speaker 1: at my to go, I had had obviously, I had
Speaker 1: had like a margarita, and then in Norway, I had
Speaker 1: like a Carlsberg like logger, like a nice the European beer.
Speaker 1: And then I went to the China Pavilion, and I
Speaker 1: really don't know what I was expecting. I guess like
Speaker 1: it actually sounds like that was the China Pavilion pavilion,
Speaker 1: so it's like a shitty Chinese restaurant pavilion. But what
Speaker 1: would you think it would be like like like like
Speaker 1: like like Alchi martini, lumb wine if it's palatable, you
Speaker 1: know what. I think that they might have offered plumb wine,
Speaker 1: but I had already drank two different kinds of liquor,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, am I really going to
Speaker 1: fund myself plumb wine? You can like feel your teeth
Speaker 1: dissolving itself. I've had it, unreal, you know. I believe
Speaker 1: that's what they served at um Cottage. Remember we used
Speaker 1: to go to Cottage. We used to go to this place.
Speaker 1: It was one of the only places that sorry that
Speaker 1: didn't car in New York, and we would go for
Speaker 1: it when we were younger, and it was like, um,
Speaker 1: was that wait? What that wasund It was embowering? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was aving place if you like more than an entree,
Speaker 1: more than eight right. They let you drink all the
Speaker 1: wine you could drink. So I had my birthday there, Okay,
Speaker 1: it was. It was the same business model at the
Speaker 1: one by Columbia. It was so they did not ever
Speaker 1: ask for identification. I believe it was my twentieth birthday.
Speaker 1: We went there and like went a fucking town. I
Speaker 1: think I'm significantly older than you guys. Um. They used
Speaker 1: to not card a decibel when I was in that,
Speaker 1: like Japanese place on tenth and second, when did you
Speaker 1: live in New York? Uh? Through two? I put in
Speaker 1: a while, But yeah, when I didn't know you were
Speaker 1: that much older than us. Oh yeah, yeah, you're looking right,
Speaker 1: genically frozen. You look exactly right. When I was a
Speaker 1: child trying to drink underage, we went to into San
Speaker 1: Francisco and we went to a drag queen bar called
Speaker 1: Asia SF. It must be on now, but it was
Speaker 1: so delightful and they did not card you, but you
Speaker 1: could not talk during the performances. Like they were basically like,
Speaker 1: you better fucking behave and we'll let you little assholes
Speaker 1: get sucked up. But like you, you will watch you
Speaker 1: will watch us sing, you will watch us do these numbers.
Speaker 1: And it was great and you could eat like very
Speaker 1: overpriced terrible chicken wings and just like drink. Like at
Speaker 1: the time, we were all trying to drink cosmos. Because
Speaker 1: I never even watched Sex in the City. I just
Speaker 1: overheard my girlfriend's talking about it. It was like, I
Speaker 1: guess I want the pink thing that's hard to hold.
Speaker 1: It was a part of the culture. What is a Cosmo?
Speaker 1: It's a pink martini, stupid martini with like, I think,
Speaker 1: this is like one of the worst, like straight guy
Speaker 1: things is I realized I only know it as a
Speaker 1: punchline from the Worst People on Earth in the City
Speaker 1: because because of that, Yeah, that's snuck into the lexicon. Also,
Speaker 1: by the way, I watched the Sex in the City
Speaker 1: in the movie, the Sex in the City movie on
Speaker 1: the plane. The movie is pretty good. I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what is bad about it. Mr big
Speaker 1: As a character is psychotically unrealistic. That man does not
Speaker 1: exist on this planet. Like the things he does in
Speaker 1: that movie don't make anything with the wedding doesn't make
Speaker 1: anything know that he just leaves her at the altar,
Speaker 1: like at her wedding at the New York Public Library?
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding? Like? And then he's like, what
Speaker 1: am I doing? We have to go back? And then
Speaker 1: she's like she I knew that I knew, and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so and then don't they go to
Speaker 1: Mexico and she shames Miranda for not waxing, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what is the Messagetha shames Miranda for not waxing.
Speaker 1: Miranda cosmletely overreact and she's like what so like I
Speaker 1: made my husband, I don't care. And it was just
Speaker 1: like these women wacting insane, but as in saying as
Speaker 1: they were acting. Mr Big as a character is the
Speaker 1: most unrealistic piece of ship. And also actually, now, I
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I had never seen any of
Speaker 1: the Sex in the City television program, so when I
Speaker 1: saw the movie, I was like, why do I care
Speaker 1: about any of these people? Only? But it was a
Speaker 1: nice way to learn about Jennifer Hudson. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's truly got awful on that movie. I'll tell you, Louise,
Speaker 1: it was. It was like an easy it was like
Speaker 1: a way to see her in another light. Agent did well,
Speaker 1: what do you mean to New York to? Um, Now
Speaker 1: I have to ask Andrew one thing, just because I'm
Speaker 1: fresh off of this first tattoo. I'm truly just have
Speaker 1: one and and I'm truly just like waiting for the
Speaker 1: parental reaction to this, not that it matters, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: my my. The only one I felt bad about was
Speaker 1: my grandpa was like kind of like, you know, bummed
Speaker 1: about it, like visibly bummed about it. That was the
Speaker 1: only one. I mean, look, I have a whatever relationship
Speaker 1: with my parents as it is, so just like that
Speaker 1: was like whatever, deal with it kind of kind of
Speaker 1: I kind of liked the deal with it of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. But it was it was f fine.
Speaker 1: They're they're very cool about it. Um, but my grandpa was.
Speaker 1: And my grandpa ultimately like was is I mean, he
Speaker 1: passed away, but he was fine with it. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't just say, but that was
Speaker 1: the only moment where I was, and my grandma was
Speaker 1: cool with it because it looks But the one thing
Speaker 1: I will say is that mine, mine is like old, old, old,
Speaker 1: and it's still like kind of bumpy and whatnot. Really
Speaker 1: skin does not take well to just trying to reject it.
Speaker 1: Still still it still hates it. It looks good though,
Speaker 1: its cool. It's a little I mean, like like they
Speaker 1: didn't fully align the diagonesse, which I kind of like.
Speaker 1: I kind of like that. It's kind of imperfect. It
Speaker 1: looks great. I was, I was noticing that it looks
Speaker 1: a little um rugged on the bottom. Sure, um, but
Speaker 1: that's just you know, rug it on the bottom, baby baby,
Speaker 1: um where we're talking about cosmos, oh, sex in the city.
Speaker 1: We don't need to, but go ahead. I have nothing
Speaker 1: else to saying. I have nothing else to say, but
Speaker 1: I am just reminding me that that's what is. I
Speaker 1: don't think so many will be thank you for the reminder.
Speaker 1: I didn't forget, but thank you, good, good good. Speaking
Speaker 1: of that, I think it probably is time to move
Speaker 1: on to our segment, which is called I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: which is our segment in which we take one minute
Speaker 1: of time to rent against something in culture that you know,
Speaker 1: what we actually hate and we need to talk about.
Speaker 1: And in bringing up the Sex in the City movie
Speaker 1: and the plot points we're in, um they're in I
Speaker 1: have my I don't think so honey. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. And it's time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so honey. The whole idea
Speaker 1: that Sex in the City ends with Carrie getting with
Speaker 1: Big because Big is emotionally abusive. Big is the emblem
Speaker 1: of sublimating yourself to a man. It is crazy that,
Speaker 1: like Sara Jessica Parker as Terry Bradshaw is this feminist icon,
Speaker 1: and then she would return to a man who publicly
Speaker 1: humiliates her like not just once. Also, he fully treats
Speaker 1: her like garbage the entire series long. And what is
Speaker 1: so aspirational about him besides his money and the fact that,
Speaker 1: like there's some intrigue with these guys that like our dicks,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's like a funck boy
Speaker 1: before we had the term for fun boy. That's obvious
Speaker 1: to me. He's fine. Also, he fully like is a
Speaker 1: dick to her friends. Like it's really really annoying. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I like Aiden better for him, better
Speaker 1: than him, but I would say maybe Carrie should be single.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute that was beautiful, especially compared to
Speaker 1: the energy of this whole insane episode. I don't think
Speaker 1: so Honey was actually one of the most grounded things
Speaker 1: we've heard, because he was coming, he was rationalizing alone.
Speaker 1: I feel, and I often feel like what I don't think,
Speaker 1: so Honey, I finally find what I'm going to say
Speaker 1: at the very end. Yeah, and what I would like
Speaker 1: to say definitively about Sara Jessica Parker a k a.
Speaker 1: Carry Bradshaw marrying Chris a Mr. Big is his name
Speaker 1: was John. I know that in the last episode of
Speaker 1: series you find out that his name is John, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so it wasn't even like he was
Speaker 1: I think you find out in the movie. You find
Speaker 1: out in the last episode of the show. Um, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen much of any of that show or movie,
Speaker 1: but I did. The second one is basically like an
Speaker 1: incitement to class warfare. Oh yeah, they go to incredibly
Speaker 1: um insensitive yea and they should never be there. It's
Speaker 1: it's essentially a two and a half long, two and
Speaker 1: a half hour long commercial for Dubai but they're incredibly
Speaker 1: it must have been that and Fast and Furious, whichever
Speaker 1: one that's in Dubai. Also, I felt like it was
Speaker 1: shot like with the same crew that just like they
Speaker 1: just rolled straight into the other movies. Well you always know,
Speaker 1: you always know in these movies when like they're just
Speaker 1: doing a commercial for a tourism in another country, like
Speaker 1: whenever they go there for no fucking reason, which happens
Speaker 1: which also I believe happens in a Black Panther, uh
Speaker 1: like whenever they go to another country, and it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well do buy it happens with the most Well yeah,
Speaker 1: because because I I suspect the there's a lot of
Speaker 1: what I mean, like so many movies like Take a
Speaker 1: Johnt to China or like again and they have like
Speaker 1: a Chinese DJ or whatever as part of the part
Speaker 1: of the gang who they don't like or talk to.
Speaker 1: But it's that is just like so like I think
Speaker 1: it's got to be just like white movie exactly, being
Speaker 1: like there's money and we got we got to make
Speaker 1: these people feel like a part of it. We need
Speaker 1: them to be our audience. But actually, like if you
Speaker 1: notice it, which I'm sure you have, like more often
Speaker 1: than not. Now, these big action films will include like
Speaker 1: one of the set pieces will include like an Eastern
Speaker 1: country they do. They do now different cuts that like
Speaker 1: there's a whole I guess Iron Man three has fully
Speaker 1: ten more minutes that are just like, isn't China amazing?
Speaker 1: Apparently I haven't seen it, but yeah, I believe it,
Speaker 1: just because it's such a huge part of the world
Speaker 1: now in terms of like where film is consumed in
Speaker 1: such a huge market. I mean, we were talking about
Speaker 1: this the other day, not the other day, like I
Speaker 1: was talking about I believe Guy Brandam was the one
Speaker 1: that brought it up, and he was saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: it used to be that, um, you could have like
Speaker 1: a mainstream film, it didn't need to appeal to international
Speaker 1: audience and specifically the Asian market. But that has changed now,
Speaker 1: Like in order to be like an internationally bankable movie star,
Speaker 1: it's very important that you appeal to the Chinese market. Um,
Speaker 1: which is bizarre. Yeah, Like, as a Chinese person, I
Speaker 1: find it, Well, it's trying to appeal to the culture,
Speaker 1: but it's also trying to like but but then the
Speaker 1: culture is be like so it's also it's like people,
Speaker 1: It's like people like us are the closest that a
Speaker 1: lot of the people that make decisions get to that culture,
Speaker 1: and we're not that close tet culture target culture. And
Speaker 1: then it's like and then the target culture overseas are
Speaker 1: the types of people who would build a fake Paris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm done with that. But also when you
Speaker 1: say we have to open it up to that culture,
Speaker 1: what you're also saying is like we have to like
Speaker 1: in a way limit diversity and representation because like they could,
Speaker 1: for example, they could I bet Love Simon wasn't released there,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of gay stories that they are
Speaker 1: not culturally ready. They edited, Um, I mean this is
Speaker 1: the joke. Was the movie already, but they further edited
Speaker 1: Bohemian Rhapsodies literally no gay stuff at all. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing that Chinese, the Chinese government hates his
Speaker 1: ghosts and because what is it because they're actually scared
Speaker 1: of them? I think unclear. I think it's because a
Speaker 1: lot of like the dissident cultural movements are around things
Speaker 1: like spirits and ancestral worship, so there there is an
Speaker 1: element of fear of God, of any kind of sight.
Speaker 1: But I think the same with Winning the Pooh is like,
Speaker 1: but we don't talk to imaginary things with the pood
Speaker 1: specifically that it's the Prime Minister. It's the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: king for whatever reason, it's this dun't mean that. I
Speaker 1: still have not made sense around, Like I still don't
Speaker 1: know why the people compare him to Win of the Pooh,
Speaker 1: but like it's this joke. He looks like he doesn't
Speaker 1: to me, he does not. Yeah, yeah, like as a
Speaker 1: cultural image, like Kingdom Hearts three came out and they
Speaker 1: cut out the Winning the Poop stuff and like he
Speaker 1: does like it does not. You cannot find Winning to
Speaker 1: Pooh anything in China. That's crazy. It's because he full
Speaker 1: Jewish Happen producer out. It's because he used to date
Speaker 1: someone named Christopher Robin. That makes sense. Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey, And
Speaker 1: it must appeal to the Chinese market. And as time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so many expensive T shirts.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing one right now. Expensive T shirts a T
Speaker 1: shirt to cost five dollars at most, and yet I'm
Speaker 1: being suckered into paying for these ninety dollar T shirts.
Speaker 1: Why because Urban Outfitters. Urban Outfitters was the beginning of
Speaker 1: the end for T shirts, for fucking conning the entire
Speaker 1: world into buying paying more than five dollars for a
Speaker 1: T shirt. And you know what, this is my appeal
Speaker 1: to the Chinese market. I'm wearing come to our song beings,
Speaker 1: very very stereotypical nations. It's very so Asian to wear.
Speaker 1: But I feel like a fool. I feel I feel
Speaker 1: it's it's it's like an emperor Emperor's new clothes kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Where now I finally I'm I'm snapping out
Speaker 1: of it and I'm I'm looking at myself, I'm going,
Speaker 1: what am I wearing? Oh my god, it's a ninety
Speaker 1: dollar T shirt. I can only pay Old Navy all
Speaker 1: the way, bring back old Navy. Old Navy is queen,
Speaker 1: Old Navy is cannon, by all your teachers, Adult Navy,
Speaker 1: and then silk screen whatever you would like onto that
Speaker 1: or by our T shirts at public dot com, slash store,
Speaker 1: slash last cultures. That's one minute. It is what a
Speaker 1: degree of difficulties so insane to me that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: dare get on this podcast and say I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: expensive T shirts. There is nothing you enjoy more than
Speaker 1: two more expensive than it should I'm saying you love. No,
Speaker 1: I'm turning a cord. I'm rounding a corner now where
Speaker 1: I'm just like closer not cost as much. Yeah they shouldn't,
Speaker 1: but they also don't. It's the stuff that you buy. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I'm realizing this. This, this is a moment of self awareness.
Speaker 1: I'm leveling up. This is my journey. Okay. If I
Speaker 1: want to say two things from going forward, I want
Speaker 1: two things from you going forward. And if I don't
Speaker 1: see them, I'm filing for a divorce. One no cigarettes
Speaker 1: to no expensive designer T shirts. You can just you
Speaker 1: want to buy an expensive designer sweater whatever. Fine, but
Speaker 1: sh short, bitch, I know, I know it. Just it's
Speaker 1: it's none of it aligns, none of it makes sense. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is can I can I confess the me to now?
Speaker 1: Classically and famously I do not plan things. So is
Speaker 1: there a trollable option here? Is that possible for the
Speaker 1: recorded but I know it's possible for the live show,
Speaker 1: but I did not know. Yes, we can pull one
Speaker 1: up right now. I haven't heard someone do it on
Speaker 1: the recorded thing in a while in the student studio. Yes,
Speaker 1: because people don't close meaths, don't get fed, people don't
Speaker 1: ask for it, and the fact that you're asking for
Speaker 1: it is a huge deal. Thank you so much. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I have famous, I have something. Okay, I can't
Speaker 1: read what you're pointing out, so you go, tawny, yes,
Speaker 1: your I don't think, so, honey. Trollable topic is Salma yak.
Speaker 1: And now I don't think, so honey, Salma hyak because
Speaker 1: I have been forever confused if it is Selma or Salma.
Speaker 1: I do not know if it is an A that
Speaker 1: we're pronouncing as an e, or if it is an
Speaker 1: e that we're pronouncing as an a. Maybe it's an
Speaker 1: a we're saying as an A. And I have just
Speaker 1: had the problem this whole time, Salma had I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey. You made the blunt cut very fashionable,
Speaker 1: and I could not have one when I was that age.
Speaker 1: My hair would not do it. So I don't think,
Speaker 1: so honey. You're making me want something I could not have.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. You essentially being the Latina
Speaker 1: Chloe seven Ye, you are both chic and you're basically
Speaker 1: a clothes hanger. Your shoulders seem to just want silk
Speaker 1: caressing them, and it makes me jealous. Your canon of
Speaker 1: work is good. However, I haven't seen you in a while.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Where have you been, probably
Speaker 1: raising children, in which case my hat is off to
Speaker 1: or doing anything else. You're allowed to have a life.
Speaker 1: Whire people on you about what your career is and
Speaker 1: what should leave you a litte I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: The people who won't leave Selma or Salma, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I didn't know that you weren't Johnny Depp's
Speaker 1: girlfriend for a while. Does she ever date Johnny Depp?
Speaker 1: And vibe? Yeah, so we should say flat out it
Speaker 1: is Salma okay? Well, and so it isn't a favorite
Speaker 1: thing about Salma Hi is she talks at this speed.
Speaker 1: This This is the pace at which Salma Hi speak.
Speaker 1: English was the second language, you know. No, I think
Speaker 1: it's just her vibe. Her vibe okay, just disciplined. But
Speaker 1: I respect because of Frieda. I thought she was very
Speaker 1: good in Frieda. And also I respect her because she
Speaker 1: had a really hard time with Weinstein on that film,
Speaker 1: and that was her passion project, and she fought until
Speaker 1: she was like sick to make that work. But importantly,
Speaker 1: Tawny does not respect her apparently. I learned tonight that
Speaker 1: I don't, and that's fine, and that's beautiful. When I
Speaker 1: leave this room, I will go back to respecting her.
Speaker 1: She looks great in a choker, absolutely or and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, the beautiful, gorgeous woman bombshell. Yeah, why did
Speaker 1: this get so weird the way you complimented her? Weird
Speaker 1: because it doesn't feel like I'm keeping she's she's to
Speaker 1: me the famously the person who is short but like
Speaker 1: seems monstrously tall. Yeah. Yeah, and she's actually quite short.
Speaker 1: She's the best friend of Penelope Cruz, and I bet
Speaker 1: they're both like tiny, but she's mad when they stand together.
Speaker 1: You would think Penelope Cruz was a giraffe. Like there
Speaker 1: are people you look over to see an a t M. Yes,
Speaker 1: he speaking of that vague that look. This is my
Speaker 1: other gross straight guy confession is at the Emmy's. Was
Speaker 1: that the Emmys or the Grammys or whatever? I did
Speaker 1: not know that Casey musk Graves was not Nelly for
Speaker 1: Tado for fully, I just couldn't tell. I you know,
Speaker 1: I see that. I just didn't know what was I
Speaker 1: was literally like, why the fund is singing with Dolly
Speaker 1: Parton right now? This doesn't make any sense. I know, no,
Speaker 1: I get it. How do you get it? They just
Speaker 1: all look the same with me. There you go, and
Speaker 1: there you go. These these little these mousey little songstresses
Speaker 1: running around women look the same too. I want to
Speaker 1: report that Matt Rogers has eaten his Asian pair down
Speaker 1: to now the size of a of a key lime.
Speaker 1: Get it, it's a golf ball. You're playing all the
Speaker 1: sports with that. I really enjoyed it, you guys. It's
Speaker 1: a good fruit. We got like wiffleball sized. Should the
Speaker 1: title of EPI Asian pairs? Yes? Yes? What was the
Speaker 1: other one? Are out there? We've got some good candidates.
Speaker 1: We have some good candidates. We will we will counsel
Speaker 1: on this when on the Patreon yes, by the way, oh,
Speaker 1: we should just say right here, we do. We have not.
Speaker 1: We have not added new content to it for months
Speaker 1: and months. Patreon's death, the Patren's dad. We're so sorry
Speaker 1: for the people who still supported us, but thank you
Speaker 1: for supporting us. But I do RuPaul's drags reviews and
Speaker 1: recaps now on what the Tuck and so and Matt
Speaker 1: and I are on different coasts now, so it's just
Speaker 1: harder to keep up, and we don't want to take
Speaker 1: your money while we don't put out in content that's
Speaker 1: specifically for a smaller audience, and so therefore we will
Speaker 1: be shuttering that Bow and Yang and are are in
Speaker 1: an l DPR, a long distance podcast relation. There you go.
Speaker 1: So what I'm hearing is you guys have too much
Speaker 1: money and you can't accept it from I love that money,
Speaker 1: but my bank account won't allow more money. You hit
Speaker 1: the top. If you get any more money, it actually
Speaker 1: rolls over to zeros. It's like that. So every day,
Speaker 1: every day I have to buy a million things. Did
Speaker 1: you I don't know if you go. So when Tani
Speaker 1: was in was in Vancouver, at when she was in
Speaker 1: Atlanta maybecouver also, but she stays book. When when Tony
Speaker 1: was that it was happening inside joke but also it
Speaker 1: sounds horrible anyway, But we had we had a month
Speaker 1: or two where we were doing remote episodes. Tonny on
Speaker 1: the phone and your wolf set her up with maybe
Speaker 1: the most hilarious thing I've ever seen which was like
Speaker 1: a portable vo booth that was about I don't know,
Speaker 1: one point five feet you know, cube cube of that
Speaker 1: you basically had to put the microphone in and then
Speaker 1: stick your head in the talk it and she said
Speaker 1: a picture of it is. I'll see if I can
Speaker 1: find to keep talking her head in the box. It
Speaker 1: was the funniest I've ever seen. It was, well, we
Speaker 1: do have to do, Andrew, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Do you have something prepared? Yeah, we love that, I
Speaker 1: mean vaguely prepared. And also if you listened to it's
Speaker 1: different than what I did at I don't think so
Speaker 1: Honey Live, but a lot of similar themes. Here's Andrews.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, and I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: To Asian Twitter being on that first draft tip, I
Speaker 1: just am very so just today. Uh, I forget what
Speaker 1: it was, but every time Scarlett Joe it was, it
Speaker 1: was that Shang Chi is about to be the first
Speaker 1: Marvel superhero. And I just knew that. So many Asian
Speaker 1: Twitter people, who I love, many of them, We're gonna
Speaker 1: say I thought Black Widow was the first Asian superhero
Speaker 1: because of Scarlett Johansson and I'm just thinking. This is
Speaker 1: my plea both the Asian Twitter and to all marginalized communities,
Speaker 1: because we I know, we've had to put up with
Speaker 1: a lot of shitty comedy forever, but I just really
Speaker 1: really want to just second draft, just second drafted. We
Speaker 1: are in a time of Asian I'm sitting in a
Speaker 1: room with Asian comedic excellence, and I just five seconds.
Speaker 1: We can do better. Please do better. I love you
Speaker 1: so much, but please do better. And that's one minute.
Speaker 1: It's never good to be first thought. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: After the thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm not good to be
Speaker 1: first though. I just can't go to a place where
Speaker 1: people I just cannot validate any tweets. After the announced
Speaker 1: emistone is hosting with BTS and musical guests and pee,
Speaker 1: a lot of people have been like, wow, an Asian
Speaker 1: episode and all Asian episode. I'm like, y'all can do better,
Speaker 1: we can do better. There's literally been millions of jokes about.
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, I just I just got to do better.
Speaker 1: I know, and I get the instinct. Look, look, look, look,
Speaker 1: we all have the thought. It's a shared thought, and
Speaker 1: that that's what some comments, that's what some comedy is
Speaker 1: is it's a shared thought, It's an observation that other
Speaker 1: people share with you. But we've observed, we've observed it
Speaker 1: and all the persons of it. So many lessons on
Speaker 1: this episode, A lot of lessons. Oh, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just so many lessons on you. What is this? And
Speaker 1: here's the thing is you said that when you listen
Speaker 1: to their podcast that you become smarter. And who knew that?
Speaker 1: As a result of them coming to Last Cool Trees
Speaker 1: with their Pears, with Andrew's parents, with the Pears, they
Speaker 1: have this pair podcast. They have made this pair and
Speaker 1: I'm pointing to you and I much smarter. This is
Speaker 1: a smarter pair. I would also say, may I take
Speaker 1: the floor? I would like to say that coming on
Speaker 1: this podcast with Andrew's Pears that he sure um and
Speaker 1: and watching this pair and now I am pointing out
Speaker 1: the two Chinese gentlemen in the room, watching them have
Speaker 1: very tender cultural moments that they don't get to have
Speaker 1: very often, was very enriching for me. So, while I'm
Speaker 1: also smarter, but I also feel privileged in honor to
Speaker 1: have been able to crunch along with my fellow white
Speaker 1: brethren and listen it you guys are more Chinese. I
Speaker 1: feel cocky. I'm staying away from the number four. Right.
Speaker 1: That's well, it's important that everyone knows I'm culturally Chinese Iranian.
Speaker 1: My parents are going in student. No one comes from
Speaker 1: me when they listen to this. And what do we say?
Speaker 1: What's your what's your Chinese? What do you say in Chinese? Now?
Speaker 1: Don't you don't have a Chinese phrase that you go to?
Speaker 1: I don't, And so I would like one? Okay, UM's
Speaker 1: one for that? Oh in Charlotte, Like, what's the equivalent
Speaker 1: of God willing? So it's like um um, oh this
Speaker 1: is tough. Yeah, well we'll come up with one. I'm having.
Speaker 1: It has to be now it's like, oh see Wang
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, well that's just like I hope, but you
Speaker 1: don't really like she Wang? A lot of people listen
Speaker 1: to this. Yeah good, everyone listens to this. Want was
Speaker 1: literally matt match our pitch. Wa she won't she won't
Speaker 1: people listen to this? She won't? Honestly pretty good. I mean,
Speaker 1: but man's a musical person. I think he would very
Speaker 1: pick up many. Yeah. The tones are a lot better, honestly,
Speaker 1: a lot better than my My cousin is dating this
Speaker 1: white guy who lived in Shanghai for like nine years,
Speaker 1: and so she's like a Chinese girl from San Diego who,
Speaker 1: like you know, never really embraced any Asianists and her
Speaker 1: white boyfriend. His accent is not great, but his vocabulary
Speaker 1: is expansive. Is hugely embarrassing from it, right? That is me? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like I wanted to express myself. Well see want
Speaker 1: is hope? Yeah, see you won't see you won't Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like it pretty good? It's very good. Can I take
Speaker 1: the floor now? I really really enjoyed the conversation, the
Speaker 1: musical interludes, the references to tricks, to Leanne to Shania,
Speaker 1: and then what was the harmony? Song was Joe? I
Speaker 1: mean truly beautiful meeting of the mind's musically, um, and
Speaker 1: I feel not only smarter but that this bit I
Speaker 1: said that, but I was able to see this pair
Speaker 1: come together musically and not as beautiful too, beautiful vocalists,
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, and you know that we are
Speaker 1: and you know that what we do and please listen
Speaker 1: to you. It's this racist and what we do at
Speaker 1: the end of every episode, as we do end with
Speaker 1: a song, and we end with the song and so,
Speaker 1: and it comes, it comes to us very naturally. How
Speaker 1: do well gift that? If catallan, Oh need you in
Speaker 1: my you know, my one, my soul. Holy if you
Speaker 1: will lead, maybe you would take away everything getting in
Speaker 1: my life and to me. Now, how do I live
Speaker 1: without you? That's how I want to know. How do
Speaker 1: I worry without you? Give you ever go? How will
Speaker 1: I ever? Ever? How do I? How do I? How
Speaker 1: do I? By Leanne Ryan Forever. This has been a
Speaker 1: Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Boham, Joe Cilio,
Speaker 1: and al It Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit
Speaker 1: Forever Dog Podcasts dot com and subscribe to our shows
Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1: Keep up with the latest Forever Dog news by following
Speaker 1: us on Twitter and Instagram at Forever Dog Team, and
Speaker 1: liking our page on Facebook.