1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: When I start calling the police to come and help me, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: I said, please help me. I'm really tired and I'm 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: coming from the idiot floor. Can somebody come and help me? Say, look, 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: we cannot come to you. You walk toward us, and 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: the actual wording may make sure be careful because there 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: are people throwing themselves on the top. This is a 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: tough scene I struggled out in my life. Actually, I 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: looked up and I see body flying and as soon 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: as they touched the ground, really their basis and always worried. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: And they can't come help you because they're worried about 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: getting the head. 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: To be coming from the top floor. Also, there are 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: set tend to be coming from them. 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: So I look up and you see people I do it. 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: I did see brilliant and the fact I be honest 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: with you many times in my life I see the picture. 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: But thank God, God give me so much strange and power. 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Throughout my life. 19 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: In fact, I look at I'm going to talk about 20 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: that nine to eleven is a turning point. They give 21 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: me strange and strong to make me strong. 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm still Courtney, 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father, I'm an entrepreneur, 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: and I've been a high school football coach in inner 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: City Memphis. And remarkably, that last part somehow led to 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 2: an oscar for the film about our team. That movie 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: is called Undefeated. Guys, I believe our country's problems will 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: never be solved by a bunch of fancy people in 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: nice suits using big words that nobody really ever uses 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: on CNN and Fox, but rather may an army, a 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: normal folks, us just you and me deciding, hey, you 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: know what, maybe maybe I can help. That's what Father 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: Mark Hannah, the voice you just heard, has done. Father 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: Mark and two of his friends helped save the lives 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: of between I don't know fifty and seventy five people 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: inside the World Trade Center North Tower on nine to eleven. 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: And they did this as civilians, risking their own lives 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: to save the lives of Father is the only one 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: of these heroes who survived that faithful day. I cannot 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: wait for you to hear his story and meet him. 41 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: Right after these brief messages from our general sponsors. So 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: we're in the back in the Crosstown Concourse and the 43 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: cool Memphis Listening Lab, which is a spot more people 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: need to know about because it's just groovy and there's 45 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: not any music you could ever have dreamed of, vinyl 46 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: or otherwise. And I don't think you can find in 47 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: this place. And Alex and I really love recording here. 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: We've got a live recording going on, so there's some 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: folks in front of us for our guests. And at 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: the end of this, as always when we do live recordings, 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: we'll open up for any questions. Today we're speaking with 52 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: Father Mark Hannah, and when you hear his accent, you 53 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: will say Mark Hannah doesn't sound like Mark Hannah. Guy. 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: His story is amazing. He is a priest at Saint 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: Mary Coptic Orthodox Church in New Jersey. He's Brunswick. Really, 56 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: his story is not about being a priest. Rather, it's 57 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: about why he became a priest. And with that, I 58 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: just want to say to you, welcome to Memphis. 59 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: I thank you, welcome, quit you Bill happy to be here. 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: When'd you get in? 61 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: We arrived yesterday around four o'clock and went to the hotel. 62 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Then my son tooked me out. We actually went downtown 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: and we enjoyed some good meals in towntown and we 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: had a good time. Then last night to a meet 65 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: the priest of the church here in Memphis, the father 66 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Demien and Omit actually some of the members of the 67 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: church here. We had dinner together, then we went to sleep, 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: and then we're here acting now. 69 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: Perfect great, Well, welcome to Memphis. Your story is is 70 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to share your story. But 71 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: from Egypt, yes, I am so tell me how how 72 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: did you grow up? Just briefly, how you went up 73 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: and how you got to the US. 74 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: Actually that's a good question because they did grow up 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: in Upper Egypt, not in Caro, which is about three 76 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: hours away from Caro, in town in a small town 77 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: at called beny Mazar in Minia. And I grew up 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: with a very average family, not really very very poor family, 79 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: very simple family. 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: And I went to school. 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: But that turned the point in my life actually to 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: come to Knight, State of for America. The oldest brother, 83 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: which is my brother William, actually he went to college 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: and he became one of the good student in engineering school. 85 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: Then he came to a Knight, State of America to 86 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: study PhD in the University Connecticut. So while he was 87 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: studying his PhD here, I was just entering into engineering 88 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: school in Egypt. So you sent me a visa. I 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: came nineteen eighty four on F one visa. 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: And yourself became an engineer. 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: I became an engineer. 92 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: I wore. Did you go to school? 93 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: I went to school in Center and kindochat City University, 94 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: which you belonged to Yukony. 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: You can't. 96 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: So you're a husky, big husky fan. 97 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: I love her. 98 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: I love actually march madn this big time a. 99 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: Bad Yeah, so good. So there it is. And you 100 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: got a job at the World Trade Sert. 101 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 102 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: Actually when I arrived, when I went going to school, 103 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: I worked as a carpenter in one of the company 104 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: and then after that I went to school full time. 105 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: I finished my college and I worked in a Li 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Literate Center construction division. 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: So what is that construction division? The buildings were built, 108 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: It's just like the engineering maintenance part of the BAT. 109 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: When I read that, I didn't even know what that meant. 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: Molit centerl construction division because Wi Literary Center has like 111 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: sivin building. You have the twin tower and then you 112 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: have another five building, one of the buildings actually with 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: the custom house building and also another building building Siven 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Silver Esteem so because the building is very unique that 115 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: we each built had its own regulation and all also codes. 116 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: Fair when you work. 117 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Wilitary Intercrosdruction Division is a building department for the Military 118 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: Center buildings around the building itself. Well, we acting actually 119 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: if somebody tended to want to do any construction, then 120 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: new work they submit the drawing for us would review 121 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: it and we acted an inspecture when inspected the drawing. 122 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: So we are actually basically the building department of the 123 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: Wilitary Center construction. 124 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: So really like if I want to build something about business, 125 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: I've got to apply to the Shelby County code enforcement guys, 126 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: and there's guys at the city code that go over it. 127 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: You were almost like code enforcement construction maintenance specifically just 128 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: for the World Trade as Complex. 129 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: Yes, in matter of fact, we had to study certain 130 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: code it's required for the building itself, how to certain 131 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: requirement for the construction of the building itself. Basically we 132 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: did act as basically the reinforcement the enforcement to group 133 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: that really an inspector to respect any work would be 134 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: done in the military. 135 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: When when the World Trade Centers, when the two big 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: buildings plus the other, I think there were five others 137 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: siven total right when they were four, when the day 138 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: was going on on a typical Tuesday or Thursday, how 139 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: many people were in those seven buildings at one time. 140 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: I will imagine, I will I did not really estimate it, 141 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: but I will imagine at least over than eighty Southand 142 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: because the Twinness, so. 143 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: The point is just the World Trade Center complex when 144 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: it was inhabited and working and people were there every day. 145 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 2: It's larger than many small cities. 146 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, because in fact that the concourse level of the 147 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Wilitary Center had like one of the huge big mole 148 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: and underneath they have another six floors. We wanted to 149 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: entil b six levels and also have the they had 150 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: the subway, and also they had the past three in 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: which comes from Jersey to New York to New York City. 152 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: And I want you to imagine the Twin Tower one 153 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: hundred ten floors and every floor two hundred by two 154 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: hundred square feet, which means every floor equal to one acre. 155 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: If I have one hundred ten acres above each other, 156 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: that's a twin tower alone next to each other, next 157 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: to each other, the North Tower and the South Tower, 158 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: and each one of them has one acres, which is 159 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: when you look at the how told the building is 160 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: is basically two miles it's unbelievable, unbelievably, it's a huge building. 161 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: So it needed guys like you. I mean, this complex 162 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: it's like having its own town. It had to have 163 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: its engineering and instruction division because there was something always 164 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: going on like you would in a eighty thousand person town. 165 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we had even we had a lot to do 166 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: of ours work because sometimes when a company is doing 167 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: some work, we basically they cannot do it during the day. 168 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: We do at night. 169 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: And in our department, who had a plan to view 170 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: when somebody submitted drawing, there's a group of the view 171 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: of the plan, and my job in the Frank de Martini, 172 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: which is he was my boss at the time, take 173 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: the planes and make sure that to enforce everything done 174 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: according to the plan. 175 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: Got it. So it's a good segue. On the day 176 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: of nine eleven, you were with your colleagues, Pablo Ortiz 177 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: and Frank de Martini. Yes, what I've read is Pablo 178 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: is a is an ex Navy seal. He was, and 179 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: he was Hispanic, and Frank was an Italian who was 180 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: a construction manager. So honestly, when I've read that. I 181 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: giggled because that sounds like the beginning to a an 182 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: Egyptian engineer, a Hispanic Navy seal, and an Italian construction 183 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: manager walk into a bar one day, It's almost like 184 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: a joke would begin. I mean, what a collection of people. 185 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: Well literates into the construction division, the beautiful thing of 186 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: which I love to work for. Them had a lot 187 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: of diversity between the plant of view the Bible, working 188 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: with so much diversity in everybody working together. But the 189 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: most beautiful thing actually we all work in harmony, and 190 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: we had really so much love to each other and 191 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: respect each other and work in a very good way 192 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: that we help each other. 193 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: So you're close, you're diverse, you're like family. You've worked 194 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: together for eight, nine, ten years. You've got each other's back. 195 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: You're running around keeping us eighty thousand person seven building, 196 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: massive complex going. And I'll just tease it and then 197 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: you can take it from there. You guys were sitting 198 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: in your office and on the eighty eighth floor of 199 00:10:54,120 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: Tower one and the building shook. Take us through it all. 200 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: Actually, this is moment. Actually we're gathering together talking about 201 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: some project. We were very close to. Frank de Martini's office, and. 202 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: When that's Frank de Martinez, he was your boss. 203 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: He was my bossy, Yes, okay. 204 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: And as soon as the building we felt actually the 205 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: building was shaking, you could feel it. 206 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you can feel it. 207 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: You know. I'm sorry. I'm going to get out of 208 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: your way and let you tell the story, because just 209 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: your recounting of all of it is enough and it 210 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: doesn't need me. But so many of us, our experience 211 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: of Not eleven was watching it on TV and then 212 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: all of the documentaries and his historical footage and stuff 213 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: that many of us have reviewed. But when you hear 214 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: the building shook and you hear the horrific things we've heard, 215 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,479 Speaker 2: it's one thing to hear it and watch it on film. 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: It's another thing to hear a human being who is 217 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: there and there are few to survive and tell the story. 218 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: So when you say you felt this massive building weaving 219 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: and all of the things you're going to tell us, 220 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: please remember our experience is not somebody who had feet 221 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: on the ground. I don't want to just hear the 222 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: building shook. I want to know what that felt like. 223 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: I'd want to feel that from you. 224 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: Actually, the moment that we felt the building was shock. 225 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: Actually some of us were scared. We did not know 226 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 1: exactly what's happening. Matter of fact, we did not know 227 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: even the building was hit by an airplane. I personally 228 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: wasn't fear a little bit what happened, especially when we 229 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: looked at the window. We see Babe flying and do 230 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: we see some of the cabinets were falling down. But 231 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: the build after he shook, stood a little bit, and 232 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: we did not know what happened. So we gathered together, 233 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: all of us together, Frankly Martini and myself or the 234 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: will gather everybody in the center of the building itself 235 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: and the I the id floor. We're still an idiot floor. 236 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: As soon as we got in the center, because when 237 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: the building was hit actually with held, the airplane went 238 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: to the northeast corner. My office and Frankly Martine's office 239 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: was on the south east of the building. So we 240 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: walked from the southeast to the center of the building, 241 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: toward the wist of the building. As soon as we 242 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: get there, we started recognizing, you know what, there's a 243 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: smoke in our floor, and that makes me a little 244 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: bit scared and afraid. And ever I do his banic 245 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: what what what's exactly happening. In the beginning, we thought, 246 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: because we are really working for the building, we had 247 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: a problem on seventy fifth floor with one of the 248 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: bumps that pumping water. 249 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: All the way to the top floor for the pups pumps. 250 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: Yes, so we basically when we when we find out, 251 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: we said, maybe this is one of the bumps, really problem, 252 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: but later on we did not know that, h it's 253 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: a endplane. 254 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: So we walked and we helped stall. 255 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: Maybe that's shaking and all was because the pulp blew. Well, 256 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: that's exactly with the water pressure or something. 257 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: That's our feeling in the beginning, And then we walked 258 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: all the way to and walked out from the center 259 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: of the building. We tried to frankdi Martin telling us, 260 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: you know what, we need to get out of this 261 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: floor here because we start feeling a lot of smoke 262 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: coming towards us as soon as we came out of 263 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: the floor itself, and he had the building had three 264 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: ster walls, one ab and amb was basically blocked due 265 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: to the damage. But also we went out from esterwell 266 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: see as soon as we get toesterwill see we find 267 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: actually a woman her name is Judy Reese. 268 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: She was our personal administreet office. 269 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: She was a little bit, a little bit big woman 270 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: and also in the midtime is struggling with asthma and 271 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: she needed help. So FRANKI Martini Polodics myself and also 272 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: went and helped her to get out of the eighty. 273 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: Eighth floor to the sister wall. 274 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: As soon as we get to the sister wall, we 275 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: actually were trying to figure out what we're going to 276 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: do from here. Frank de Martine actually fell to somebody 277 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: knocking from the top floor, eighty ninth floor, knocking, knocking. 278 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: That's that the stairwall will the door hammering, hammering on 279 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: And Frank said, actually, it seemed like some people up 280 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: above us really struggling. They want to get out if 281 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: they can't. So what we decide, Frank the side, let's 282 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: go up and matter of fact and begin I said, Frank, 283 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: we cannot go up, we need to help some people here. 284 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: He said, no, let's go up and see what exactly 285 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: happening upstairs. So Frank pull this myself phone too up 286 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: and Judy at this moment actually talk talk by one 287 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: of our follow worker his name is actually Jeff Getler, 288 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: and some other people with him and try to help 289 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: her down. And as soon as we were to upstairs 290 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: on eighty ninth floor, we see the door with jammed completely. 291 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: It seemed like when the buildings starts shaking, the door 292 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: jammed the door to the stairwell, the Mergen' Store stair well. Yes, 293 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: so we managed with. 294 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: The plane and it hit tower one. I think it 295 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: hit floor ninety ninety three, ninety three between ninety two 296 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: ninety five floors, only five floors, and you still don't 297 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: know a plane set. 298 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: We did not know anything until now, okay, and then 299 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: when we went to upstairs the eighty ninth floor, we 300 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: find we heard the people actually screaming to us, can 301 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: you help us open the door? So we tried to 302 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: open the door with a bit that jammed, and thank 303 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: Guardian Paul or Diz had a crow bar with him. 304 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: He's an avu in his pocket. 305 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: He did, actually he did, and so this actually managed 306 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: to open the door and they. 307 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: All came out. 308 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Basically, I will assume about eighteen that's what I said 309 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: from I counted them about eighteen of the minute. 310 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 311 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: But I walked into the floor itself. I saw a 312 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: lot of the smoke was very very strong in the 313 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: eighty ninth floor. So I walked around and I couldn't 314 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: really go inside too much because of the smoke. And 315 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: then everybody left and we came back to eighty eight floor. 316 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: And now a few messages from our general sponsors. But 317 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: first I hope you'll follow us on your favorite social 318 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: media channels, where we share more powerful content, including reels 319 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: from our video studio and testimonials from Army members. We're 320 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: at Army of normal folks on every channel. Give us 321 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: a follow, we'll be right back. I don't want to 322 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: be a grotesque at all, because I think sensationalizing any 323 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: of this tramples on the memories of the heroes and 324 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: the fire department, and it tramples on the memories of 325 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: the victims. But to paint a clear picture, when you 326 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: were on eighty nine, you said fifteen people behind that door, 327 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: clearly a lot more than fifteen people on the eighty 328 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: ninth floor, where there were there others that you just 329 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: couldn't help. 330 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: I could not help others because we opened the door. 331 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: Those who were actually by the door, they lift and 332 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: went down. Matter of fact, after that, they called me 333 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: and I went to They worked for Midlife Inshorance Company, 334 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: and they have their own building in Manhattan. I remember 335 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: after n living they called me and I went and 336 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: I met most of them at that building, but I 337 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: couldn't go inside the floor itself because because it was 338 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: so much smoke inside the Florida. 339 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: So there were clearly people who had already perished. 340 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: I'm assuming we'll be be able to inside the Floorida. 341 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so you freedom, you and Ortez and and the 342 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: Italian gout Frank right, your boss, Yeah, and then you 343 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: go back to the eighty eighth because the eighty nineties 344 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: you just can't be that's too much Mork. 345 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: As soon as you arrived to eighty eighth floor, everybody 346 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: seemed like from my Florida red. They lifted the floor itself, 347 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: but to find the one older man more lipsyn. He 348 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: was actually waiting for somebody to help him. So we 349 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: were actually debating the sea of us, who's going to 350 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: take care of more? Because Mos eighteen years or eighteen 351 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: nine years old, and he really was short and really 352 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: very very skin and very light. So they decided, after 353 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion together, we'd agree that I would 354 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: be taking care of more. So the four of us Frankdy, Martine, 355 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: Poul Ordiz, myself and more. We went from sister Well 356 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: all the way to seventy eighth floor in Skylobby. And 357 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: that's probably because sky Lobby was basically the center of 358 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: basically the elevator when you the building had to Skylobby, 359 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: forty four flower sky Lobby and seventy eighth follow sky lobby. 360 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: The sky lobby free anybody going from seventy eighth floor 361 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: to one hundred tenth floor. You take an elevator from 362 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: first floor to the seventy eighth floor. Then he switched 363 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: to a tiper floor you want to go to, so 364 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: on the skylabe actually was a lot of chaos. 365 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: That's where Buddy was gathering. 366 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: That's what everybody was gathering from, and also with a 367 00:19:59,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: lot of fear. 368 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: This is a moment actually. 369 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: Discovered that the building was hit by an iply Frank 370 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: actually amazing. Frank survived nineteen ninety street bombing, and he 371 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: kept telling us the building will. 372 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: Be good, don't worry about it. You just worried about 373 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: the smoking. 374 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: So when the terrorists hit it in ninety three, ninety three, yes, 375 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: down in the Yes, he was there then and so 376 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 2: he decided the building handled that bombing. This building strong 377 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: even though an airplane hit it. This I believe in 378 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: this building, we're gonna be okay. 379 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 380 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: Frank actually was His background was destructure engineering, and he 381 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: studied the structure of the building very well. He was 382 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: sure that really the building will be fine. Just the 383 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: problem we're going to face smoking. That's why we skipped 384 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: right away eighty eighth floor. 385 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: I've interviewed fireman and first responders who were going up 386 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: as you guys were trying to help people coming down. Yes, 387 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: did you pass fireman all the stre I did. Yeah. 388 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: On the twenty first floor, I met with them and 389 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: I saw some firefighters. I'm gonna come to the twenty 390 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: first floor. What happened with seventy eighth floor was a 391 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: little bit chaos. We actually when we discovered the building, 392 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: because we saw a lot of different fire in a 393 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: different elevator shafts, and we're a little bit scared, I'm 394 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: gonna and also fear we did not know what will happen. 395 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: And then on seventy eighth floor, the guard asked us 396 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: to leave right away, so we tried to leave. We 397 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: went to one of our friends. His name is Tony Savis. 398 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: He was also working for Loy Center Construction Vision. He 399 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: was trapped inside one the elevator. So Polar this, Frank 400 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: de Martin and myself we tried to open the door 401 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: for him. We tried, we couldn't. Then finding the guard 402 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: became sivil. He must leave the seventy eighth floor. 403 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: This is a. 404 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: Transition floor that everybody must cannot stay here. So frank 405 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: and Polarde asked me to leave and they're gonna stay 406 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: to help my Tony Savis to come up to them. 407 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: So I took more lipsyn and myself and this is 408 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: a moment, actually the last moment or the last time 409 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: I saw Frank and Polar. This on seventy eighth floor, 410 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: we had the radio together because we'll working to the building. 411 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: We had the radio and we had our only channel, 412 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: so he asked me to keep the channel five, which 413 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: is our channel, so we can communicate together. I left 414 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: the seventy eighth floor with Frankie Martinez, Pollard, State and 415 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: me and Mo Lipsen. We start walking down from seventy 416 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: eighth floor all the way to twenty first floor. Twenty 417 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: first floor were Emit, a group of great firefighters. The 418 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: all of them with very nice young men. Matter of fact, 419 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: I understand that this group, all of them the majority 420 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: with the Irish guys, because you know New York City, 421 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: every group has beautifully young men. Honestly, I met with 422 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: them and I stayed the top more from me and 423 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: the Actually on the twenty first floor, they actually had 424 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: set a station for people needs medical assistant and some 425 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: people they need to help be special for the elders. 426 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: Actually I saw actually Judy is go, yeah, we're just 427 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: still walking down. So on the twenty first floor, basically 428 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I showed the firefighters with how to get out where 429 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: are the three stair wall of the building. And one 430 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: of the very interesting actually happened. We needed some water 431 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: and something for people to drink, so I told the firefighters, 432 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: by the way, there's the free elevator. Lobby has a 433 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: lot of vinding machines. So we went to the vending machines. 434 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: So broke the finding machines and we had to grab 435 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: some iced ta and coffee and saw them passed on 436 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: to the people. And when they got discovered that they 437 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: will readly one it more so we went on and 438 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: kept actually passing empty all the finding machines in the 439 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: floor itself. And then after that, I stayed for a 440 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: little bit and the one of the firefighters came to me. 441 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: I said, by the way, you must leave the floor. 442 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: I said, no, I will love to help because I'm 443 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: waiting for Frank and boler Tis to come down. I said, no, 444 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: you have to leave the floor. 445 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: I have a What are they doing at those points? 446 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: They were actually some of them they were walked into 447 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: certain floors and coming back. If they find some elders people, 448 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: they bring them down to twenty first floor to help them, 449 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: because the lot of people who trapped on the floor itself, 450 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: they want its help. They were basically not putting the 451 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: fire down as much as giving help to the people 452 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: that they need help. 453 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: So Frank, they're going floor to floor, clearing floors and 454 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: helping people to the to the stairwells. Yes, they're literally 455 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: trying to clear every single floor from seventy eight to 456 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: twenty two. That's exactly where we're staying, saving laws and. 457 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: The twenty first floor basically with the floor that they said, 458 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: basically an area where people needs oxygen, needs some help, 459 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: needs some medical assistance. 460 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: A tria. Okay, so they tell you to leave. 461 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Then after that, they asked me to leave. I walked, 462 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: I went to my lips and I said, well, I'm leaving. 463 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: You are in good hand here with the firefighters. I'm 464 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: going to leave you. I will call you when and 465 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: I when I leave, and I had this number. He said, no, 466 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: don't leave me. I want to go with you, and 467 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: I believe, and that's one thing really amazing every where 468 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: their life has at its own time. I said more, 469 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: you want to come with me? He said yes. So 470 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: as soon as I took more and I went, I 471 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: think by the twentiest floor. At this moment I left 472 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: twenty first, twenty nineteen, I felt a huge bang. It 473 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: happened and we lost to all the emergency power completely. 474 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: It turned out to be liter on that building to 475 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: already fall down. Was about almost ten o'clock, a little 476 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: bit before ten o'clock. Then I took Mo Lipsyn and 477 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: were just walking down a few floors, and something inside me. Honestly, 478 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: I was praying to be honest with you, and matter 479 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: of fact, when we Mo lipsin and I were coming down, 480 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: we saw a love When building one was hit and 481 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: building to his hit, a traffic stopped a little bit 482 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: them as well, people were praying, people who were basically 483 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: bagging everybody know that what exactly happened. The building was 484 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: hit by the endplane. A lot of people were in fear. 485 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: So I told them more at that moment, said more, 486 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: you know what, I feel like I own to run 487 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. I cannot go slowly. Mo is a 488 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: very patient guy, very like I said, Look what so 489 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: I ended up. Actually he was very light. I did 490 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: carry him from almost nineteenth floor, eighteenth floor all the 491 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: way to the concourse levels. 492 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: And when I. 493 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: Cast en fireman going up at those points, some. 494 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: Of them fighters will will be going up. 495 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: Actually with Swasia, I've been told that that only stairwell 496 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: that was open because the other two were damaged. 497 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: It was packed with people going back back to Yeah, 498 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: when we started one after the other. 499 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and may fact, the after building to his hit, 500 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: the traffic stopped completely. I find out some people I 501 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: know them work in the building. They said, actually when 502 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: building was building to his head, debree is actually split 503 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: around the concourse lever and also around the mezzinee. For 504 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: he couldn't come out. We could have the fire itself. 505 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: And they were afrailia. But that's why the traffic stopped completely. 506 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: I say, so you're carrying Mo? 507 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: I did carry more. I took more all the way 508 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: to the concourse level. Concourse level was a huge chaos. 509 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: I could not imagine myself and matter of fact, actually 510 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: tears in my eyes because I work one of the 511 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: last projects I work with with Thomas spink there and 512 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: also another because I was responsible. My job was basically 513 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: doing inspection for the concourse. Love I see the concourse, lover, 514 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: the one has an amazing bit from all very expensive 515 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: stores are really basically damaged completely after building to its 516 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: hit and the water coming from the sprinkler from it's 517 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: basically it's basically I felt like, I'm nor Zune. 518 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: We'll be right back in the In the concourse, you 519 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: say it was chaos and smoke. Obviously you and Mo 520 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: were like, all right, how are we getting out of here? 521 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: What you're about to do us next? From what I 522 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: envisioned because I remember Alex, what's the name of the 523 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: fireman Brown? U? That were? Yes? Tim Brown? Right? Tim 524 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: barely survived, he lost seventy firefighting friends. Then it's hard 525 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: for me to talk about after interviewing him, but he 526 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 2: said in the concourse they'd set up like a command 527 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: and control center the fire people had and a trioge center, 528 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: and it's where a lot of his comrades ultimately perished. 529 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: But I have to imagine all the dust, all the debris, 530 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: all the falling fire people run around everywhere, port authority, 531 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: police triage. There's probably bodies and they did so. 532 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Actually, when I did the right at concurse level, I 533 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: would say about ten twelve, now the time is running 534 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: for me. 535 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: And then I. 536 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: Did not see too many people because after building full 537 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: loan they got they get out to everybody get out 538 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: because the concourse level was basically a mess. And I 539 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: did actually walks rooted, but because it was water up 540 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: to almost here on the concourse of water because of 541 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: the steam like from a sprinter system all the way 542 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: that are coming down as soa and I start walking 543 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: and thank god, the animal was telling me, let's go 544 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: to the more. Actually, one of the literal engineering was 545 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: involving when they designed the building itself. She was asking me, 546 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: let's go out from toward Chester Street exit. I said, no, 547 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: close side. I will let's go out to the side 548 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: that way. So I manage myself in matter factor with 549 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: this because of the smoke and the dust, I could 550 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: not really see the well, but being I know I'm 551 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: on the concourse level, I know the west side of 552 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: this year, and I saw one of the glass was broken. 553 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: All the glass was broken. So I managed to carry 554 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: more and come out of the building to the west 555 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: side the highway. And this is a moment, actually, it 556 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: was a very much and momentary because I start see 557 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: I realized that this is not just only a building. 558 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Was yeah, I tell you something left when we're going 559 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: down me pull or this saying, oh my god, look 560 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: at the damage that was having most like, we're gonna 561 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: have a lot of overtime here, We're gonna have to 562 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: work over times. And then now I realized, you know what, 563 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: this is something very bigger than what I thought. Actually, 564 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: it's not just only then I I was carrying more 565 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: and I started actually screaming to the police department. It's 566 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: almost one hour and a half, right, and I'm struggling 567 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: to go with Ian. And basically I was. 568 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: An hour and a half after the building got. 569 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: Exactly because the building was hit eight forty six. I 570 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: was out of the building, I would say ten fifteen 571 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: in maximum the building collapse completely ten twenty seven. If 572 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: I was out of the building ten fifteen twenty very close, 573 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: because I wouldn't even give it like seven eight minutes. 574 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: So I was screaming to anybody. I was basically the 575 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: last person calling frankdy Martina on Channel five, Who are you, Frank? 576 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: They're still inside the building? 577 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: Are they talking to you? 578 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: They were just barely talking because that the. 579 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: Stir they're still clearing. They start cleaning a rescue page. 580 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Frank and Polar These actually were popular. These actually 581 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: they did help a lot of people, to save a 582 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of people. And then when I start calling the 583 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: police to come and help me, I said, please help me. 584 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm really tired and I'm coming from the eight eighth floor. 585 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: Can somebody come and help me? Said, look, we cannot 586 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: come to you. Walk towards us, and the actual wording 587 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: me picture be careful because there are people throwing themselves 588 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: from the top. This is a tough scene. I struggled 589 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: out to my life. Actually, I looked up and I 590 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: see body flying few and as soon as they touched 591 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: the ground. Really they are basis and I was worried, and. 592 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: They can't come help you because they're worried about getting 593 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: hit about. 594 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: And the bee coming from the top floor. Also there 595 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: are certaend to be come from there. 596 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: So I look up and you see people I do. 597 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: I did brilliant and mat fact, I'd be honest with 598 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: you many times in my life. I see the picture. 599 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: But thank God, God give me so much strange and 600 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: POWERSU out to my life. Matter of fact, I look 601 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: at I'm going to talk about that nine to eleven 602 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: who was a turning point to give me strength and strong, 603 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: to make me strong. So I couldn't. I said, look, 604 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: but I'm carrying a man. He's one hundred years old. 605 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Can somebody help me? He kicked me because I was 606 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: carrying him, and he's right and right in by his feet. 607 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: He said, By the way, Mac, I'm eighty nine years old. 608 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: In the middle of all the matter of yess a humor. 609 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: E Moollipsen was actually I call it Molyipsen. Was God's 610 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: gift to me to save me personally it is. 611 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: But you were saving him. 612 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: You know what. 613 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: He came visit me in my house after that and 614 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: his family to thank me, and he said I told 615 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: him more. By the way, I want to thank you 616 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: because actually it was it for you I wouldn't be 617 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: here because I would be with Frank and boorder this 618 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: helping other people. But because if you God allow you 619 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: to be there, so I can be with you, and 620 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: I would stay with Frank helping everyone. But now I'm 621 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: actually I need that. We're actually the bidding who saved oh. 622 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: And I keptain no more you or the reason that 623 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm here, and he kept here the reason them here. 624 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: And he had really a lot of fleets and carrying 625 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: him down. He was very patient, slowly, don't worry about it. 626 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: Everything would be good. He was giving me so much 627 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: energy and power and help and I call it emotional support. 628 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: So the place can't come to you. There's debris and 629 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: human beings falling. But you know you got to get out, 630 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: So what do you do? 631 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: I walked all the way. 632 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: I crossed the side highway, you know, the other side 633 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: of the two ways until you get to the other side, 634 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: which the area is exactly when I went out was 635 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: by Visit Street if you're Visit Street above Visit Tret. 636 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: By Vigit Treet, there's actually a bridge connecting Military center 637 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: and financial Center. So I was actually at that area 638 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: here by Visit Street. So as soon as I arrived 639 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: with the police, the firefight, the the the ambulance took 640 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: me from me and I see some police and some 641 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: security and as soon as they talked with me, I was, 642 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: let's start talking to the building for a few minutes. 643 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: And all I remember just I was crying, and then 644 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: I was kept crying, and then then suddenly the building 645 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: was coming down. 646 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: How close were you? 647 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: I was across from by by Financial Center. All I 648 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: remember all of us, everybody, even the ambulance started everybody running. 649 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: All I remember from my I was running from my 650 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: life and running for all my power. I kept running 651 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: or running running until I came to the Hatch River 652 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: after the Financial Center. Then I was basically said and relaxed, 653 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: and I this moment actually too beautiful, young lady, kill 654 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: to me and tell me where you come from. Because 655 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: I was actually full of dust and smoke. I said, 656 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: I was an idiot. 657 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: Floor. 658 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: They thought I jumped or something. I said, No, I was. 659 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: I came down and carrying a man, and I was 660 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: actually tears because this is a moment that I realized. 661 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: I realized, actually frankly, Martine and put Orde would not 662 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: make it. And it's very difficult realized that you lost 663 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: one of your good frinded that you. 664 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: Loved very much, and they were saving laws. 665 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: Which saving lives, saving some many like action. I realized 666 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: that it was a very tough moment for me to 667 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: sit and look at the building, look at the smoke, 668 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: and realize what what happened. And then I find out 669 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: actually even other buildings fall down with just a very emotion, 670 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: and especially the Literary Center for me, when I work there, 671 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: I treated like my own home. There's something about the 672 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: Military Center you would fluff when you work for the 673 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: Military Center. 674 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: Later you were told by a reporter that there was 675 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: an unidentified picture of a covered man carrying a man 676 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: out of the bottom of the building only minutes before 677 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: it fell. Yeah, and it's the same that that was 678 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: the last living person or person's out. Is that you? 679 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 3: That's me, me and my lips? 680 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: And also how does that make you feel? Excuse me, 681 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: how does that make you feel knowing you were the 682 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 2: last to human beings out of that building? 683 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 3: Honest? 684 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: In the beginning, I started was crying and weeping for 685 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: my friends. But you start to realize the appreciating life 686 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: and you start I started thank God, really because I 687 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: feel like God gave me a life to give, and 688 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: that's why nine to eleven was a turning point in 689 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: my life. I did struggle a lot, actually, to be 690 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: honest with you, when I after Ianna. The biggest now 691 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: the journey going back home with a tough journey also, 692 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: but really it makes me feel like, you know what, 693 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: God give me a chance to live. And later on 694 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: I realized, you know what, this is a time for 695 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: me to give more than to take, to serve people 696 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: and telp people. 697 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 2: How many funerals did you tell? 698 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: I think about forty four funerals, the four emotional one 699 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: which is my close friend. But I tend to so 700 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: many fuerals for people that I know. Nine to eleven. 701 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 2: What about Frankobaba? 702 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: I did Frank because Frank Frank I was the only 703 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: Frank Martinez funeral. I did broke down a lot because 704 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: when I saw his wife, Nicole mat In fact, I 705 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: did not mention that we're coming down from the eighty 706 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: eighth floor. Nicole, his wife wooed us and she actually 707 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: kept killing Frank. Come let's leave, and Frank tell her 708 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: go down. I'm going to beat you when I go. 709 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 2: Frank's wife was there. 710 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: Too, was in an eighty eighth floor and. 711 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: She went down with you guys and left Frank. 712 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: Frank actually made her, made her to go down by herself. 713 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: But Frank funeral. I was very emotional. I even give 714 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: a small dog because Frank was a great man. It 715 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: happened when I when I work with him. He's a good, 716 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: family oriented person. He loves everybody, and he treated us 717 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: in an amazing way. I never felt he's my boss. I 718 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: felt he's like my good friend, that I can share 719 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: anything with him. In fact, a week before nine to eleven, 720 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: my son came with me because taking your son to work, 721 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,479 Speaker 1: and he met Frank. Actually Mark met Frank and talked 722 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: to Frank and Frank Mark and his son. Frank had 723 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: two beautiful kids, actually Dominic and Sabrina, and he had 724 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: Remember he took Dominic and Mark, my son to the 725 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: outdown stairs because the concourse level had the Baillful restaurants, 726 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: the eight Pitza, and they so he met Frank. 727 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: Actually, so I read. 728 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: Not only were you attending funerals, but for a month 729 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: or so you kept going back looking for Frank and 730 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: Polo's bowie. 731 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: Yes, I was actually after a few weeks, I was 732 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: called to go and helping ground zero. Inter of fact, 733 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: I have my car to that when I went, because 734 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: it was controlled by the police at that time. So 735 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: I went to ground zero and the moment that really 736 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: tough moment for me was actually I met one of 737 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: my good friends, Imagedigated. He was an architect for military center. 738 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: So as soon as I saw Jerry, I said, what 739 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: is Building one? I kept asking because all debris it's. 740 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: Fun phenomenal that you were part of the construction place 741 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: there for a decade and you couldn't even terrible Building one. 742 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: Because absolutely so finally they guided me, this is the 743 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: debris for Building one. Honestly from my heart, I was looking, 744 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: I wish we can find the body of Frank or Paul. 745 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: What is the buddy of Frank in both? And I 746 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: remember when I broke down, they had one of the 747 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: chaplain to come and talk to me and consulting me 748 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: and help me how to really accept what's happening and 749 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: just and they were trying to tell me actually all 750 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: because I was crying and weaving, what is Frank? 751 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 3: What is? And I felt it that Frank under the 752 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: depea actually. 753 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 2: Did you recover either? 754 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: There abouties no, Frank de Martino, Burdhis never recovered the body, 755 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: nor actually Tony Savis and also Judy is the four 756 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: of them when I ate ended the funeral did not 757 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: recover their bodies. 758 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: Again, I don't want to sensationalize it, but when I 759 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: read it at joke, you told a reporter one day 760 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 2: the part of what was tearing you up is that 761 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: you felt like the dust of the remnants of the 762 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: building you were walking on could be the dust of 763 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 2: your friend's spot. 764 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: And my fact, honestly, and as a priest, normally, as 765 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: a person i'm with the church will normally look at 766 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: the place's holly. I felt at the time I want 767 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: to take my shoes off a not to walk on 768 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: the on the rubbers, because I was I was in 769 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: fear and tears, and I missed them so much at 770 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: this moment too, And I had the hope when I 771 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: went to grow and see you, actually, I had to 772 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: hope that we're going to find the book. 773 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: And that concludes part one of my conversation with Father 774 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 2: Mark Hannah, and guys, don't miss part two. It's available 775 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 2: to listen to now, and there is so much more 776 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 2: here for you together, guys, We can change this country. 777 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: It starts with you. I'll see in Part two