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Speaker 1: Here we go again with Saturday Night Live not being funny,

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Speaker 1: Like we get that all the time, so we're always

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Speaker 1: kind of like battling against that. So it's never like

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Speaker 1: I did the best I could, and that's that.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is Keenan Thompson. He's been making people laugh

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Speaker 2: for decades from The Mighty Ducks, all that Keenan and

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Speaker 2: kel Good Burger, and of course SNL where he's become

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Speaker 2: the longest tenured cast member in the show's history, Emmy

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Speaker 2: Award winner, Comedy Icon, and now he's got a kid's

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Speaker 2: book called Unfunny Bundy. I went up to New York

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Speaker 2: to talk to Keenan, so we got a lot to cover.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it with Keenan Thompson. I think I

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Speaker 2: just saw Dwight Howard outside the building.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that happens. It's New York, yeah right right.

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Speaker 2: I don't live here, so I don't know skyscraper tall. Well,

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Speaker 2: he was sitting down, and I didn't want to do

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Speaker 2: the Dwight Howard experience. I didn't want to do the

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Speaker 2: thing where I took a picture of him. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I took one from behind and then we compare the

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Speaker 2: tattoos to like pictures of other pictures of him. That's worse,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't there to.

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Speaker 1: See you just ask him.

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Speaker 2: Do you see a lot of random people in New

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Speaker 2: York just walking around?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're paying attention, But.

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Speaker 2: Do people see you walking around?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I just got a big poppy shout out down

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Speaker 1: the street, so yeah, it happens.

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Speaker 2: What's a big poppy shout out?

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Speaker 1: I played David Ortiz on Update years ago, and it's

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Speaker 1: very popular amongst the Dominican people.

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Speaker 2: So there's yelled big Bobby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Most most Spanish people are just like yo, big

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Speaker 1: poppy man. I love it whether they're Puerto Rican or Dominican.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like similar worlds, I guess,

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Speaker 1: so they all, you know, reference that basically as a

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Speaker 1: source of pride as far as my appearances on SNL's concerned,

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Speaker 1: it hits home for them.

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Speaker 2: Can you often tell by who's approaching you what they're

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Speaker 2: going to know you for?

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Speaker 1: I try not to be that, like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't try not to jump the gun because you

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Speaker 1: never really never really know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like if it's like an older, like you know, Caucasian person,

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Speaker 1: what's what's the PC turney? It was called white White Person.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to just assume that it's

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Speaker 1: just asking l They might know Nickelodeon maybe because of

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Speaker 1: their kids or something like that, so it's it's tough

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Speaker 1: to tell. But it's just nice, I guess, for people

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Speaker 2: You know, what character do you get recognized for?

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Speaker 1: The most? I can say, it's it's all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Like I get a lot of good Burger I get

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Speaker 1: a lot of I get people that call me kill

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of Tracy Morgan, I get a

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Speaker 1: lot of like all kinds of it's all over the place,

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Speaker 1: like I definitely get you know, some ascing out things.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's such a variety show, and I've

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Speaker 1: people have their different favorites. I guess, but you know

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Speaker 1: what's up with that gets a lot of shout outs,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, Big Poppy gets a lot of shout outs.

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Speaker 2: I just watched Project Hell Mary. That movie felt very

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Speaker 2: inclusive to ages to where everybody can enjoy and nobody

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Speaker 2: would be offended and it's so rare to walk both

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Speaker 2: those roads. Yeah, could you watch did you see the movie?

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Speaker 2: By any chance?

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, but I hear awesome things

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Speaker 1: and Ryan's so awesome and like that. That's been his energy,

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Speaker 2: I forget. You know, these people, like what's Ryan Gossling

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Speaker 1: He's amazing. He's one of the nicest guys in the world.

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Speaker 1: But he's also a really strong performer, you know what

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Speaker 2: It, you know, so can you though, because you're doing

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Speaker 1: I just don't enjoy that necessarily, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like if it's too tedious, it feels like work work,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like we spend so much time inside thirty Rock.

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Speaker 1: So if I wasn't able to like dress comfortably or

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Speaker 2: Can you indulge me and walk me through what a

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Speaker 2: week is like on that show from Sunday up until

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Speaker 1: I mean, su I guess before the season starts, just

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Speaker 1: like everybody's kind of like waiting on that Monday. Like

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Speaker 2: It's like voluntary workouts in NFL, Like even if you're

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Speaker 2: but it looks better if you do.

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Speaker 1: Looks way better if you do, especially if you like

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Speaker 1: So that makes sense. But it's a very tense Sunday,

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Speaker 1: But Monday starts, we have a little pitch meeting and

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Speaker 1: it's just, you know, everybody gathers in Lauren's office kind

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Speaker 1: to the hosts, more.

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Speaker 2: Of the whole, the whole, all the writers.

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Speaker 1: Writers and cast people sitting on the floor. You know.

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Speaker 2: Morning deadline for what like fully fleshed out.

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Speaker 1: no real timeline. You don't have to do that. Like

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Speaker 1: So it's basically up to the individual. But that was

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Speaker 1: can be a long day. Wednesday's long table read. You

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Speaker 1: know we read like forty five is you know, forty

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Speaker 2: You also want to be earlier in the week. Like

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Speaker 2: when I hear sketches there's forty five, fifty, I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, placement is you know, they try to make

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Speaker 1: don't read too far into it. That being said, by

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Speaker 1: and then everything in between is kind of like, man,

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Speaker 1: bring bring it bro Like you're also like, we're not

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Speaker 1: just like doing like community theater, like this is Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night Live, you know, so like everything, everybody's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be writing, it should be the most hilarious thing you've

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Speaker 1: sometimes you write something that's just funny to you and

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Speaker 2: Do people do good Burger that to you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it was an interesting conversation. I was at

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, it's real.

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Speaker 2: How many kids? You have?

435
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: Two girls?

436
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: I just had a girl, baby girl, ten weeks ago. Congratulations,

437
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: first first kid ever. Yes, so you haven't slept in

438
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: ten weeks? Yeah, well longer than that, I would say, Yeah,

439
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 2: that last.

440
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: Month is hard.

441
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what what congratulations?

442
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: Man?

443
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: What do I that's her name and it's Billy been

444
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: named after her grandpa. My wife's fantastic.

445
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, good dude, fair Yeah yeah, we can edit all

446
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: of these things to make it seem nice. That's funny.

447
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: What's it been like with girls? Like, give me, give

448
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: me some tips here.

449
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, kids is the best thing you'll

450
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 1: ever do, especially like for dudes. I think having a

451
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: girl straighten you up a little quicker kind of thing.

452
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: Like boys, you want them to be a little more like, yeah,

453
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: just fall down, you know, kind of bump your head

454
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: and you know, get stronger. I guess, like don't bump

455
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: your head, but you know a couple of little like

456
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: scrapes and stuff, like you want your kid to toughen

457
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: up kind of thing. With girls, I think you just

458
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: kick into high gear protection mode and like, you know,

459
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: just want to make sure you're taking care of everything, like,

460
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, do we have enough money for dinner kind

461
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: of stuff? You know, just like bare minimum kind of

462
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: you know things. But yeah, that that protective and kind

463
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: of like provider energy, you know, kicks in pretty strong.

464
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: I feel like it's softened to me a bit. And

465
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 2: again it's only been ten weeks right now, but I

466
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: do feel like even I never even held a baby

467
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: until this baby. Maybe one for a second, like a

468
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: nephew hold this type thing, but I never like held

469
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: a baby. Yeah yeah, and so but I just feel

470
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: like if it were a boy, I think I'd be

471
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: a little more rigid. Like this boy with a girl.

472
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 2: I think I just there's something.

473
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: It's still a baby, but you know, like, yeah, you

474
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: get it. It's very tender, it's very precious. All those

475
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: words start coming in, you know, precious, tender, cute, sweet,

476
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, you know what I

477
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: see them.

478
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: I see like women now and I'm like, that's somebody's daughter.

479
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

480
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: I never thought.

481
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: About that, Yeah until like tiny little baby daughter at

482
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Speaker 1: some point.

483
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like that's somebody's daughter.

484
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: Like show a little respect.

485
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what it is. I like to think

486
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm respectful.

487
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: Anyway, you're going to start hating male energy pretty soon.

488
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: You're going to start hating anybody like that's just like yo,

489
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: she was, It's like, I hate you.

490
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: That's somebody's daughter.

491
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody showed some respect.

492
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm having that.

493
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: Cora's man that's a beautiful thing.

494
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: Thank you. My wife text me, she's like, you can

495
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: be home tonight. It's like I am, and so I

496
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: would love to be. Yes, I will. I cannot wait

497
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: to be home. I'm trying to get home by bath time. Yeah, man,

498
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: which is eight pm.

499
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: You're in it. If you can make that your life,

500
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the sweet life, because when they

501
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: get older, they remember those times, they remember you being

502
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: there constantly, and they want to be there for you

503
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: in your old, older selling days. There they're coming. Stay

504
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: away from the trampolines.

505
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: Look quicker if you're the trampoline part. I'm saying, So

506
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 2: you did a kid's book. It's great, by the way,

507
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: un funny bunny.

508
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, thank you very much. Why why you know?

509
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: I want to do something, you know, for my girls

510
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: while they're still young, that they can you know, be

511
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: happy and you know, pass around or you know, have

512
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: the experience that you know, their friends come up to

513
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: them at school is like, oh, my dad wrote that book,

514
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: so like cool points for dad kind of thing, but

515
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: also like I love the kids face. You know, I

516
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: grew up doing kids stuff. And a lot of my

517
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: colleagues have written kids books, So it seemed like a

518
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: natural next step after a memoir kind of thing. So

519
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: I did my memoir and then it was just like,

520
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, what other books would I like to write?

521
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: Like I'm not you know, a super duper you know author,

522
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to do like fiction necessarily and.

523
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: Write no novel.

524
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a lion, the witch and

525
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: the itch kind of itch. But you know, I do enjoy,

526
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, the possibilities in the in the kid realm,

527
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: because you know, a book can turn into a cartoon,

528
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: it can turn into toothbrush and toothpastes and like you know,

529
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: live shows and stuff like that. It's just so much

530
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: like possibilities in that realm without you know, the stakes

531
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: being too high, you know, or just not fun you know.

532
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: So it seems like whatever insure as we go down

533
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: with the unfunny bunny, it'll be just fun in the making,

534
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, and it won't really matter as far as

535
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: like how successful it might become or not kind of thing.

536
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: It'll be fun along the way, and I think that'll

537
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: be my victories.

538
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: Whenever you were picking the illustrator you're working with, did

539
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: you see different versions of the drawings and like pick

540
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: whatever felt like the yst to like your mind of

541
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: what you picture to look like.

542
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: I think so. And like I saw some really great ones,

543
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: like you know, kind of abstract kind of people that

544
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: like draw more abstract kind of drawings, and those were

545
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: really really cool, but it wasn't the tone of this.

546
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 1: I think the tone of this was just more like,

547
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, sorry, like broad and like you know, colorful

548
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: and like round faces and you know, kind of like

549
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: the the Pixar approach where everybody's kind of like, you know,

550
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: rosy cheeked a little bit.

551
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: Your kids like it.

552
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: They love it. Yeah, they thought it was like really,

553
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: my big girl said it was really sweet, which is

554
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: nice because you know, she in middle school. Now shit's

555
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: getting treacherous. So for her to use the word suite,

556
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: that was a big That was a big win.

557
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: What's middle school like for a dad? Like, what's happening? Now?

558
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: You're just on call? Man? There's nothing you can really do,

559
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, except for just be the

560
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: support system and call the meeting, like if there needs

561
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: to be a meeting with you know, another parent or

562
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, a counselor or a principal, kind of thing.

563
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: But as far as like intervening, like those days are

564
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: kind of done. You can't just like put hands on

565
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: people anymore, you know what. You really have to like

566
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: just be the responsible adult and kind of always have

567
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: that mindset of like boundaries are important, you know what

568
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: I mean, and like know that you have a support

569
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: system and you're not just alone. So if anybody's being

570
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: bullied or you know, parrassed or anything, you don't just

571
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: have to take it, you know what I mean. You

572
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: can speak up and be like, this isn't making me comfortable,

573
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: and it's up to us adults in the village to

574
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: kind of squash whatever negativity. You kind of can or

575
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, change the scenario if you have to basically

576
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: like pull them out of that school if that needs

577
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: to happen kind of thing, if things get too drastic

578
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: or whatever. But you're basically just on call and choufeuring.

579
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: You know.

580
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: Is it odd to be a celebrity parent?

581
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: I guess because I don't know. People just don't allow

582
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: you to be a person at first kind of thing,

583
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: which is not their fault, you know what I mean.

584
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: They're processing a lot. It's like, Okay, I've seen you

585
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: somewhere and now I'm seeing you in person all the time.

586
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: And however they you know, adjust to that varies kind

587
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: of thing. Some people see it as an opportunity for fundraising,

588
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: some people see it as a new friend.

589
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: Some people see, I bet you get hit up for

590
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: that stuff or it at least did, right, Like I bet.

591
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, schools need funds, especially in this administration.

592
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: They're cutting you know, all kind of programs and stuff

593
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: like that, so fundraisers have been you know, a real

594
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: kind of like lifeline for a lot of like public schools.

595
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's fine. I mean, it's the same thing.

596
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: If you go to a new church, you know, like

597
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: it's a celebrity, they'll be like, oh, you want to

598
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: come to our church, Well, we want to build a

599
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: new wing and we're trying to raise money for that.

600
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: So it'd be nice if you were just aware and

601
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: just want to contribute whatever it is. So whenever I

602
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: go to the new church, it's like a one time thing,

603
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: so it doesn't get too you know, fundraising and distracting

604
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: from the healing of why you go to church, you

605
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You go to church with fellowship

606
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: and to reset your week or your intentions or whatever,

607
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, put a little sum in the pot for

608
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: the people. Yeah.

609
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: I feel like when they're passing the plate, everybody's looking

610
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: at you to see if you put one hundred dollars.

611
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a little bit, but you know, I like

612
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: to oblige, like I understand, you know what I mean.

613
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: Like I grew up, you know, very humble beginnings, especially

614
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: my parents. You know, small town Virginia and you know,

615
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: small churches, and it was all about the community coming

616
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: together and everybody even what they can to keep the

617
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: church going. You know, yes, it's it's tax free, but

618
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, pastor got to eat, pastor gotta have gas

619
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: to get back and forth back and forth to church

620
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: every day and stuff like that. And that's you know, well,

621
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: we take a collection so we can keep the lights on.

622
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: I get it. And then as you grow up you

623
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: start to see that that's a kind of a constant,

624
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, like each church has its bills and that's

625
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: just what it is. So did you enjoy the music,

626
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: did you enjoy the fellowship? Well, you know, leave a

627
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: little something. It would be appreciating and it would help

628
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: us out a lot, I guess, going towards the rent's

629
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: probably too damn high, you know what I mean. That's

630
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: still the same and that got called that man. He

631
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: called that back in six seven.

632
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: People still say, what, I grew up in a real

633
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: town in Arkansas, and so it was, well there was.

634
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: I grew up in a town that had a railroad track.

635
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: White people, white people. Yeah, white church, black church, and

636
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: so I go to white church three weeks, I go

637
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: to black church one week. And what I liked about

638
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: white church is we started at ten and we got

639
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: out of noon.

640
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

641
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: What was hard about Black church was we started six.

642
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: We started whenever everybody kind of got there, and then

643
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: we didn't stop.

644
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: We started with the roosters, yes, and then we having dinner.

645
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: It went till the spirit was tired.

646
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

647
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: What I liked about Black church was food. Yeah, like

648
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: great every every time, Like you stayed longer, but you

649
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: ate a lot better. We didn't really have that at

650
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: White Church.

651
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Interesting, that's funny, Like I think in the South in general, though,

652
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: they made it a thing where you just like go

653
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: to church and you go eat kind of thing like

654
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Black church, like everybody cooks because the money is probably

655
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: scarce in the origins of that culture, you know. But yeah,

656
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: that's why I like the gym Stones. You know, there's

657
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: so many moments where they're pulling up to the restaurant

658
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: and that's just like their weekly thing, and I relate

659
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: to that.

660
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would bring and have like a pot like

661
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: every week because again not White church. Yeah, white church,

662
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: you don't have any food unless it's like a but you.

663
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: Go get it, yeah, because they're able to go get it.

664
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Black Church is awesome. It took like four

665
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: hours to get to it, but the food was was awesome.

666
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and God bless those ladies or those do whoever

667
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: putting their hands on it and made it happen. Like,

668
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, they took pride in that. You know, they

669
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: took pride and watching somebody eat their potato salad. You know,

670
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: they're just smiling in the corner like you know, somebody's

671
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: somebody's carrot salad isn't being isn't being eaten, and that's

672
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: going to be you know, fodder for humor for the

673
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: rest of the week kind of thing.

674
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: There is a pressure always can't cook she made that

675
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: carrot salad. There's a pressure to make sure everybody's stuff

676
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: is touched because You don't want anybody's dish to sit

677
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: there and look fresh. When everybody else's dishes.

678
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Are not, something's wrong.

679
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: So even if it doesn't look that good, you take

680
00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: a little bit.

681
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: You gotta be well, that's for the kids. The adults

682
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: are just like, now, I'm not going to do that,

683
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, man, God bless like communities. Man. Like, That's

684
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: why I do so much, like Back to the Kids book, Like,

685
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I do a lot of like family friendly things because

686
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I want those like everybody gather around moments, because that's

687
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: just how I grew up, you know, like a lot

688
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: of us cousins, you know, whenever we went back to

689
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, my parents kind of stopping grounds, you know,

690
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden there was ten twelve, fifteen cousins

691
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: deep kind of stuff and everything we did for the

692
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: whole summer, and I just I love those times. So

693
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: you had to watch kind of kid appropriate programming or

694
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: kid appropriate songs and stuff like that, and it was

695
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: just great to spend time with, you know, your great

696
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: grands if they were around on their like last times,

697
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: and they just give you a little tidbit of a

698
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: story of something that you know might give you a

699
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: little more insight on who you are, where you come from,

700
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: whatever kind of stuff, And I like to continue those moments.

701
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: Like it feels like these days everything's so much more

702
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: splintered because everything can be catered to the individual, you

703
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's not you know, there's

704
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: not that much kind of like just family friendly, like

705
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: everybody come watch it. It's kind of rare. So like

706
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: when me and kel start doing stuff, we're going to

707
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: be aiming towards that kind of like you know, engagement basically,

708
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: like we want grandma and granddad to come as well

709
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: and also feel entertained, not just feel like they're chaperoning basically,

710
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, like Nickelodeon was kind of good at like

711
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 1: you know, pushing that envelope a little bit to where

712
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: everybody could like feel titillated in some sort of way.

713
00:34:49,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to

714
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: the Bobby Cast. I just watched the Martin short documentary Lovely.

715
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: He seems like the loveliest guy.

716
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: I never met him.

717
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: He's the greatest.

718
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's he like?

719
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: For real? Fantastic, insanely funny, always down to like he's

720
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: one of those people that likes to do the like

721
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: joke discovery always like looking for some funny He's an improver,

722
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: so like he's looking for you to say something that

723
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: he can rebut or he's just gonna like say something

724
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: funny regardless, and he would love for the exchange to

725
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: be humorous kind of thing, Like he doesn't want to

726
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: just say something funny and then we get back to

727
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: the news kind of shit, Like he would like to

728
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: have a good time. And I understand that there's a

729
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: lot of you know, comics that are like that that

730
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: would much more prefer to talk in funny for him

731
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to just natural conversation. And Martin's definitely one

732
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: of those guys. He's just yes, he could talk normal,

733
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: but he's more so of the like approach of like

734
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: why just talk normal, Why not like have an incredible

735
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: time or laugh or be around brilliant people that will

736
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: inspire you to think towards funny things. And that's great.

737
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest.

738
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: I watched it, and I could tell that the people

739
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: talking about him genuinely loved him.

740
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely without question, because he's not an asshole, you know

741
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like he's one of the kindest like

742
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: people in the world on top of being super duper funny.

743
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: You know, he's very welcoming and you know he's very

744
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: like I think, you know, he thinks he's very handsome

745
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: as well, you know what I mean, Like he's very

746
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: I see him like checking himself out in the mirror,

747
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: and like if you watch him like walk down the

748
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: hallway by himself, he has like a little swag to him.

749
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like Mark Short thinks he's the shit

750
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: and he's not wrong. But it's interesting to always catch

751
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: people and like real moments and you see their real self.

752
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: Was like, oh yeah, Martin thinks he's a stud and

753
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, look at him. He's got fucking Meryl Streep

754
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: out here.

755
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: I had three final questions for you who came in

756
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: to host, and you were kind of blown away at

757
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: just how versatile they were and you weren't expecting it.

758
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a there's a lot, there's a like

759
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: Lizzo comes to mind because she was just on Eddie

760
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: Murphy's back. Like Adie Murphy was so tickled by Lizzo

761
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: when we were doing the promos and then she came

762
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: and hosted. Then she did a great job. So like

763
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: that was a nice surprising one Forrest Whitaker did a

764
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: great job. He did an incredible job, and I thought

765
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: he was going to be a little more sinister because

766
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: my experience with him was very sinister. But yeah, who else,

767
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: Like just so many people.

768
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: There are the athletes that came in and you're like,

769
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: oh man, they actually Peyton is the one.

770
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: May not think he's the one that showed everybody. It's like,

771
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: oh shit, athletes can be really funny. I think he's

772
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: everybody's favorite. And then there's always a surprising other side

773
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: of the coin where like somebody comes in and they

774
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: just like completely don't enjoy their time there. Kind of

775
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: thing Like I think like Michael Phelps had like a

776
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: tough week or something. He just seemed like he wasn't

777
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: into it kind of thing or whatever and would much

778
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: rather just kind of like be behind the scenes and

779
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: just chill. But you know, he was having such an

780
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: explosive time. People wanted him to be like, you know,

781
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: a mega like TV star, commercial guy or whatever, and

782
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: I think he just wasn't into it like that nice guy,

783
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: and I think he was nice to everybody. I just

784
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: don't think he had fun performing necessarily so those dynamics

785
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: are very interesting. You know, Charles Barkley's one of the

786
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: best kind of things just because he don't want to work,

787
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: that's it. You just want to have a good time

788
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: and like you don't give you like two hours before

789
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: he starts to get distracted basically, So he's great.

790
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: Any musical acts have come in that you were geeked

791
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: out about seeing a meeting.

792
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had outcasts my first year. That was incredible

793
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: because those guys went to my high school and I've

794
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: been a lifelong fan of those guys for sure, So

795
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: for them to come in in like my first season,

796
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I think it was like the third episode or something

797
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: like that, and they were having such a crazy moment

798
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: as well, with like hey, y'all, you know what I mean,

799
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: it was like their biggest record ever and like it

800
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: was as big as they've ever been. Yeah, that was

801
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: an amazing week.

802
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: Do you go tell them like, NOA, NOA. I knew

803
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: you guys that like stink on you, like I've been

804
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: with you forever.

805
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm always cornering them like I courted them at their

806
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: studio and be like y'all don't understand man the greatest

807
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: and they don't that shit. They've heard it a million times, like,

808
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: but I got to tell you me personally. I got

809
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: to tell you what you mean to me. They were great.

810
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: And you know, anytime like a Paul McCartney comes around,

811
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: it's always kind of crazy. It's like, bro, that dude

812
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: is like number one legendary but number two upwards in

813
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: years and he's still out here like doing it big.

814
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: Like he played like three songs after the show went

815
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: off kind of thing and then partied into the night.

816
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's just sitting there with

817
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg and like all these people like that, and

818
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: that was crazy, bro, It's literally crazy.

819
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: Are there rules on pictures or autographs? Are there what

820
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: like rule unspoken rules like could you take Paul McCartney

821
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: a guitar and say, hey, would you sign this for me?

822
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think there's kind of like

823
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: an air of if you want that, there's certain people

824
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: that you give that too, to ask for those permissions.

825
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: I think, especially with like those kinds of levels of people,

826
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's usually the musical guess is someone that's

827
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: like really really really famous, like actors are chill, you

828
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like we're there and like we

829
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: have so much time with them that if you want

830
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: to like get something signed by them, you probably would

831
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: build a relationship through the week to where you would

832
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: feel comfortable asking that. But the musical guess is and

833
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: someone that's like in a hyper famous mode and they

834
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: always have security and you know what I mean, it's

835
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: just a bigger thing. So you always feel you naturally

836
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: feel like you should ask the handlers. Would it be

837
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: okay if I got an audition, or can I bring

838
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: my kids to watch the rehearsal or whatever, as opposed

839
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: to like asking them directly kind of thing.

840
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Final question, what do you want your kids to like

841
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: remember you for?

842
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: Remember me for being awesome? You know in all the ways.

843
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of like where why I wear sunglasses

844
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: all the time. I just want to be remembered as

845
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: as being cool, you know, but yeah, no, like awesome.

846
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: You know underneath that umbrella is cool, responsible, loving, you know,

847
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: just a good natured person, giving kind of thing, Like

848
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: everything that you would put in that awesome.

849
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: Box basically congratulations on the book.

850
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: Thank you man. It's a good time, and I think

851
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: it stands out because there's you know, jokes in the

852
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: back and you know they're they're good dad jokes, which

853
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: are good bad jokes, and like it's a good time.

854
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: It felt a little shreky in a good way. Like

855
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: there are jokes that I don't think you would get

856
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: it if you're six, that you get if you're an adult,

857
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: and it's you know, there's some I have a hundred

858
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: kids books at the house now and a lot of

859
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: them are just right for the kids, and you're like,

860
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't do another.

861
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: One, And this one is like something that you can

862
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: read and enjoy as an adult because reading with your.

863
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: Child that I really appreciate the time.

864
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: Thanks you, my pleasure man, Thank you.

865
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to the Bobby Cast. Share this episode

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Speaker 3: with a friend because they don't pay to advertise us.