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Speaker 2: Episode four point thirty three with Abby Anderson. Abby's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Known her for a long time. Not to be confused

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Speaker 2: with Abby from our show, who is Abby Lee Anderson,

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Speaker 2: which is why she should have put the lie in

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Speaker 2: So Abby's been through it. She came to Nashville, got

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Speaker 1: Smell, best smile.

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Speaker 2: Name is with to sen it on And here's a

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Speaker 2: Lenny on Instagram and TikTok. Abby Anderson Music enjoy one

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Speaker 2: of my favorites. Here she is Abby Anderson. Are you comfortable?

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Speaker 1: I'm so great?

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Speaker 2: Are you good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good to see you too, good to see

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one?

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Speaker 2: That, for what for what? But no, I talked to you.

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Speaker 2: I was with the same label for a while. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you go through adversity, you either get stronger you die. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Hang tight. The Bobby Cast will be right back, and

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Speaker 2: Where was your grandpa living.

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Speaker 2: So you're right hard on fire in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've always wanted to write my mom a song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And how long it taken write that one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's rare and awesome. It was rare, especially something

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Speaker 2: So what's what's the song that? Like? What is well,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we're in a land where there's a

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Speaker 2: Oh that's really cool. We should come play that on

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Speaker 2: And I've never told you to come on, and then

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Speaker 2: you do shows with Stevie Nicks? Yes, that's what the hell?

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Speaker 1: Don't don't even try.

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00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: I was letting our audience know who it was.

441
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 1: People know. I just am upset, like I feel like

442
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: he raised like I grew up listening to his records

443
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: with my mom in the car growing up. And she

444
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: texted me, she's like, hey, you should come over tonight.

445
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: My uncle Chris is here, my aunt Cheryl, and so

446
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, okay, kid, you not Chris, Isaac, you is.

447
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: We're a freaking uncle. And I walked in and I

448
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: was like bro. I was like Madison, I said, do

449
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: you know? Like, do you know who your uncle is?

450
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 1: I was freaking out. And the last thing I was

451
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna do is be like, oh, I'm an order this too,

452
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: you know. So I just start asking him questions being

453
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: a nerd, and finally he was like, why do you

454
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: care so much? And I was like, ah, not, you know,

455
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: I sang whatever, And that night we just end up

456
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: playing guitar together all night. It was so fun, and

457
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: charl was there, and so me and Scherl became really

458
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,959
Speaker 1: good friends and I would just ping her every now

459
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: and then for advice and business stuff. And then one

460
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: day she called me. It was like a year and

461
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: a half later probably, and I don't expect anything from anybody,

462
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: like I genuinely love her. And she just called me

463
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: one day and she's like, hey, sweetie, I was just

464
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: wondering if you want to come open for Stevie. I

465
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: was like yes, Shirl, I was like yes, I would

466
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: love to do that. So we did, Like I think

467
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: we had four four or five shows with her and

468
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: I want.

469
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: To come back to the shows in a second. But

470
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 2: you are at a house with Chris Isaac just playing

471
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 2: music a guy that you listen to a lot, I

472
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: don't know. Tell me about that, and what do you play?

473
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: And and how do you like? What's the what's the vibe?

474
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: He literally feels like your uncle, but like a legendary uncle.

475
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: He's like the most humble, like sweetest man.

476
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's just fun and that's Madison's uncle. Yep,

477
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: did you do?

478
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to fall in No, I didn't want

479
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: to ask him to single. He's probably so tired of

480
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: us song. We just played covers.

481
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: That's cool though.

482
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

483
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever do you ever like see him

484
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: ever anymore? I do? Yeah.

485
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: When I go to when I go to l A,

486
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: they'll have me over. He took me to Lululemon, like

487
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: we'll go shopping. There's so fun and like Cheryl's like

488
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: pushing her dogs everywhere. There's just there like family to meet.

489
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: That's cool.

490
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: It's so fun. I love that man.

491
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 2: So let's talk about going to open for Steven so

492
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: she called and said, do you want to do this?

493
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: Of course you do. That's amazing. I mean, Fleetwood Mac amazing.

494
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: Stevie Nick's amazing first show was what city.

495
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 1: Chic Chicago and or Orlando get Orlando or Chicago.

496
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: Do you remember the like going to the venue that day?

497
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was a big, old arena, sold out arena.

498
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

499
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever felt like this. And

500
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't come off in like an arrogant way,

501
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: but I remember walking in there being like, hell, yeah,

502
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: like this place ain't big enough. Like it just felt

503
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 1: it just it just felt so damn good. Oh my gosh.

504
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: Did you get to meet her before you played?

505
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: No, I haven't met her.

506
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: You didn't meet her, I haven't.

507
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: I've never met I wrote her like a couple of

508
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: little notes to saying thank you, and I gave him

509
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: to her team. I highly doub our team.

510
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: Gave it to her at least put it in front

511
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: of her.

512
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: Maybe, but I blame them if they did it.

513
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: You know, I'm surprised she didn't say high or something.

514
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't blame her. I mean, the woman's a

515
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: freaking legend. She's I mean she's still crushing it every night. Yeah,

516
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and she's just I feel like I learned

517
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: from her, like her just standing there is enough, like

518
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: just the presence she has and the energy she brings

519
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: to her show. And I learned like, man, I'm enough,

520
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: like you know, me just standing there, being present, letting

521
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: the audience know I'm happy to be there. That's when

522
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: I have my best shows. I don't need to do

523
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of I think I spent a lot

524
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: of time trying to prove something, you know.

525
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: To what or to who everybody, just.

526
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: Doing too much rather than the thing that comes effortlessly

527
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 1: to me and getting really really good at that.

528
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: How much do you play piano in your set?

529
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's that's a good question.

530
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: That's how I was introduced to you by way before

531
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: I ever kne who you were.

532
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: I was like the piano player, Yes.

533
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: I'd never met you.

534
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

535
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: And because again it was on the same label for

536
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: so I had a relationship where they ended up, you know,

537
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: buying my way out of it because it's like, I

538
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: don't need a label. We do all our own promotion.

539
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: And so I kept a good relationship. And I remember

540
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: when they had signed you. You were introduced to me

541
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: as this amazing singer who's even a better piano player.

542
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: So I thought it was like little Mozart or something.

543
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: That's nice. I mean, I grew up playing Mozart. I

544
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: still I'll still pull him out or.

545
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: No, really, because I've never seen a version of you

546
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: with the classically trained No.

547
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: I mean, if you asked me to play off memory

548
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: right now, I probably couldn't. It would be pretty choppy. No.

549
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: In my set, it's probably I'll take a little acoustic.

550
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: It depends how long the set is. But I like

551
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: to be mean just the audience. But those shows were acoustic,

552
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: so it's just me. I brought my guitar player, Chad,

553
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: and I'd probably roll. I mean, we got like eight

554
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: song seven songs. I probably rolled four of those on piano,

555
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: and then I just get bored. I don't want to

556
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: stand behind the piano the whole time. Feels like I'm

557
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, I like, I imagine me wanting attention. I

558
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: just like being up front.

559
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: Do you feel most comfortable instrument wise with the piano, Yeah.

560
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: For sure. It's just like I don't have to think

561
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: about it.

562
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: That would be so cool.

563
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: You're a guitar player though.

564
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: No I'm not. But I took lessons on pian I'm

565
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: not a good guitar player. I'll play well enough to

566
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: be able to do comedy. Not good. I can't sing either,

567
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: but I sing, you.

568
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: Know I got to be he's good.

569
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: Oh, you gotta be as confident. Honestly, if you trick

570
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: people into thinking you're good, sometimes they're like, I guess

571
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: he's believe you're Like, well, I guess this is good.

572
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: He looks like he's thinks he's good, so why not

573
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: believe it? Yeah? So I took piano lessons as an adult.

574
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: Really struggled. Really, I was probably.

575
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: Were they teaching you theory though? Or were they teaching

576
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: you like how to read notes?

577
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: That second one? Oh?

578
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: Well that's yeah. You would love theory theory just taking

579
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: so essentially just taking what you already know on guitar

580
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: and just laying it flat on a keyboard. Yeah.

581
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: I don't know enough on guitar to do that.

582
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: M you would you anyone can pick up the National

583
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: number system easy. I'm actually teaching my husband right now. Yeah,

584
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: it's so fun.

585
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: The National numbers system is interesting because I've recorded enough

586
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: music to hear them all doing it. Yeah quickly too.

587
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: They'll pull up the sheet and be like all right

588
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: one one four three three, And I have no idea,

589
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: but I'm like, yeah, that's good. I like that. Yeah,

590
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: one four three three, Yeah, that that seems to work.

591
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: Could you have been a pianist? I think so if

592
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: you would have focused on that.

593
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: That was my dream. Initially. It was like when I

594
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: was eight, I would I was classically trained and would

595
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: travel Texas doing piano competitions.

596
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Oh you woul compete it? Wow?

597
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: I was such a nerve bob. I still am a nerd,

598
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: but yeah, when I was really little, my piano teacher,

599
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: like we thought we were on the road to going

600
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: for Juilliard, and I thought that's where I needed to

601
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: go to like do music.

602
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: I just don't think that's a nerd thing. I think

603
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: that's an awesome thing. Like I'm jealous.

604
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: I was homeschooled on top of that, so we can

605
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: argue what's nerdy ones.

606
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: The homeschool thing is and I knew that. And also

607
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: you look like your sisters. I mean it's crazy, right,

608
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: do you see it? Because sometimes people can't see when

609
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: they like my sister, People say, you guys look like

610
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: kind of or not really? Do you see it?

611
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: Oh, like half of us are. It's funny because me

612
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: and Avery, they call us like we're like the two

613
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: brown ones. Like that's where my mom's side of the

614
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: family comes out. And then my two twin sisters. It's

615
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: like unfair, how gorgeous they are because they got like

616
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: my mom's dark hair, my dad's blue eyes, and that

617
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: olive skin. And then yeah, but we I think we're

618
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: all we.

619
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: All look super like how many total brothers sisters?

620
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: Seven of us and the six girls. One boy and

621
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: he's he's he's our obb only baby boy.

622
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: The seventh was the only boy. Yeah, were they were

623
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 2: your parents gonna keep trying until no.

624
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: So he actually and I don't want to say, he's

625
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: only like thirteen, so I don't want to tell too

626
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: much of his story. But we adopted him.

627
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: Oh is that right?

628
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: He was adopted and it was one of those things

629
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: where he's actually like my third or fourth cousin, but

630
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: he is my.

631
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: Brother, but he's also still in the family.

632
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Oh anyway, Oh, he's my brother, like we got him.

633
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: I remember my mom just came home with him. He

634
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: was like two weeks old and we're just obsessed with him.

635
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: Does your sisters do they like your husband?

636
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my gosh, everybody's got crush on my husband.

637
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: They won't admit it. Everybody's got a little crush on

638
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: my husband.

639
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: What's he like when he's around all your sisters?

640
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, what is he like? He's just he's just

641
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: he's really good at taking jokes. Like we're pretty mean

642
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: when we I don't know.

643
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: If you're like you make fun of each other, but

644
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: how you show you love each other.

645
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: We make so much fun of each other, like we

646
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: just freaking don't know how to stop. And Tyler's really really,

647
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: really great at taking a joke, like he can laugh

648
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: at himself. He'll fire one bag. My little sister Avery

649
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: and him, like they are so funny in the family

650
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: group chat. They are just like like making fun of

651
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: each other the whole time.

652
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: Do you guys have a group that he's not in

653
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: and then also a group that he is in.

654
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: We have too many. We have too many group chats,

655
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: and it gets us in trouble because we're like, oh,

656
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: wrong group chat, wrong group child. Like me and my sister,

657
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: it's just me and my like ashling, me and Aaron

658
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: and Emilyo's four oldest girls. We're just like kind of

659
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: talking crap about everybody the old time with that GM

660
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: and then there's one with the little little sisters Ariy Olivia,

661
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: and then one with the Tyler and Skyler. They're the

662
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: only like boy in laws at the moment. We'll see

663
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: if we'll see if the other boys my sisters are

664
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: dating make the cut. We'll see.

665
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: It's tough to get brought into a six.

666
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: Man We're really we're pretty, we're pretty ruthless. Who's the oldest, Ashlyn?

667
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: She's my big sister, so I'm the second.

668
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: Got it. Yeah, so when there are six girls, pardon

669
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: my crass question here, but when they're sing, I wouldn't

670
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: you guys like fart on each other and stuff.

671
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: They're disgusting, Like I think, girls we are so much

672
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: more gross than boys.

673
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: We just do it more outwardly.

674
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: No, we're privately discussing.

675
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: I wonder because if you give three boys together farting

676
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: on each other all the time, that used to be.

677
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: My wake up call growing up, Like you know, should

678
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: come in to be like good morning, You're like okay,

679
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: and the fights about clothes and just like I mean,

680
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: we would probably slap each other harder than like the

681
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: UFC like hit each other.

682
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, anybody else do music, everybody and non form.

683
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Not professionally. But all my sisters sing like we grew

684
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: up singing in church together and they're all incredible, Like

685
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Aaron and Emiley still keep up their chops on the

686
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: classical piano. I mean they're like the touch they have

687
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: on keys is incredible. So yeah, we all get together

688
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: and sing.

689
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: And water or something.

690
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: It's fun. Oh I love the water. Actually, I started,

691
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: what are you drinking there?

692
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: It's a beer?

693
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

694
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: You don't drink I know it's.

695
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: And I saw thirty calories on that. I was like,

696
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: what kind of beer.

697
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: Do you want to water?

698
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: I love water.

699
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: It's a whole time. It's uh, it's it's a kimbucha.

700
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: But when it's called hum and I do you like kimbucha? Like?

701
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: It didn't make you bloated or anything?

702
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: It does a little makes a burp a lot.

703
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

704
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: But when I was doing whole thirty there you.

705
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: Go, Oh you guys have the I love the box water.

706
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: Hey, one environmental step at a time.

707
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: I love this.

708
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: You couldn't have I coudn't have sugar when I was

709
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: doing Whole thirty and that's just about eating natural stuff.

710
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: When'd you do that, probably nine ten months ago.

711
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. Do you feel better mentally when you're.

712
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no, there's not near as much brain. Everything's better.

713
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: And it's not a crazy diet like one of these

714
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: novel diets. It's just you don't eat processed food and

715
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: only really stuff that comes from the ground or animal,

716
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: but no sugar. And I love sugar. I eat sugar

717
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: all day. It's my favorite thing. Sugar. I would only

718
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: eat sugar. That would be the only thing. I would

719
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: have sugar for breakfast, lunch, dinner, yeah, main meal, and dessert.

720
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: But these kombuchas that were Whole thirty and I just

721
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: got kind of it was like the one thing I

722
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: could really like. Yeah, yeah, because I love soda and

723
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: I don't drink it almost maybe two a year. Yeah,

724
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: I would drink a three liters a mountain to a day.

725
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: You that's just like a discipline. You're like, I'm just

726
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: not going to do soda.

727
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: I would like to do soda still, Yeah, yeah, because

728
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: I felt like it was not as much pleasure as

729
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: it was pain no meaning I would drink it and

730
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: just feel bad. Or I'd be working, I have a

731
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: TV shoot or something, and I would be like not

732
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: liking how I would look in whatever clothes they were

733
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: gonna put me. And mostly all the gross sugar I

734
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: was eating. It wasn't so much a body everything. I

735
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: can just see all the sugar and I can.

736
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: See it in my face, yeah face, and I'm like,

737
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: that's not worth Like, thank God, I think God made

738
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: me vain so that I would be healthy, because I'm like,

739
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: if I didn't, if i didn't see it on my

740
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: face what I was eating, because as soon as I

741
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: eat sugar or like sugar, any of that or the

742
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: SODA's like I'll start breaking out. Yeah, it's not worth it.

743
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

744
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: Bobby Cast.

745
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: We were having You and I were having dinner at

746
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: Cheesecake Factory in Virginia.

747
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: Beat twenty nineteen.

748
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: Is that when it was and you were telling me

749
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: about this guy you were dating who's like a lawyer,

750
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: and you were drunk.

751
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: The Lord did I say it was a little I

752
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: don't remember.

753
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what it's like. Your Grandma's story.

754
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: We're both drunk. You were you were, but whatever his

755
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: job was, you drive back and forth to Atlanta, he

756
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: drive here. Yeah, and you were like, I think this

757
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: could bet you got married. So how's marriage been for you?

758
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Love it? I think it's been. I think what was

759
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: different about when I knew I loved Tyler was like

760
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: every every person I dated before him, I always felt

761
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: like I had to choose. It's like, you either get married,

762
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: you pick the guy, or you can do music, or

763
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: you can pursue what you love. And Tyler was the

764
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: first guy who was just like so unthreatened, just refreshing.

765
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's like the hottest thing ever to

766
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: just have a man like stand by you and just

767
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: be like freaking go fly and call me when you

768
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: can go do your thing. And he's got his thing,

769
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: and it's just we're both free, you know.

770
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming it's not lawyering, no reason.

771
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: He's a he's a broker, he's a tech.

772
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: Broker, something that like.

773
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: The CARMACKX of texts. Why I tell people?

774
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: And when did you feel like it was different? How

775
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: long into it?

776
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: Oh? It was quick. It was like first date, literally

777
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: our first date. I remember you picking me up from

778
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: my hotel, and first of all, he's just so damn

779
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: good looking. Then I was just like okay, you know,

780
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: I was already in and and I just remember thinking

781
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: after that date, like, Okay, are we probably going to

782
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: see each other? Probably not again because he's in Atlanta.

783
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: I was on radio tour at the time, you know

784
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: how that goes. But I remember thinking like, man, if

785
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: I don't marry him, like I want a guy just

786
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: like him, Like that's the caliber I want.

787
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: And how did you guys do the distance?

788
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: We just did, Like it was the most easy thing

789
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: to figure out. I don't even know how, Like we

790
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: just didn't sleep. It was so fun.

791
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: See, my wife and I did distance for a while too,

792
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: and it was not fun because she was not That

793
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: was like flying right, it was. It was California and

794
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: it was tough.

795
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: But y'all did y'all start getting really serious during cod though.

796
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Because we started dating three or four months before COVID.

797
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

798
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: And then COVID happened and it was only gonna last

799
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, so it was like, just come

800
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: stay here for a couple of weeks, and then that

801
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: turned into months. Obviously, and then it was, well, I

802
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: guess everything's gonna go back to normal. So you're not

803
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: gonna move out or you're not gonna go away, are you?

804
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: I guess not. And so that it just kind of

805
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: happened like that. What about you guys as far as

806
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: like he had to move here?

807
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was a that was a big conversation

808
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: for us because he's a Georgia boy and he likes

809
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: his woods and fishing and just being out in nature.

810
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: And I think what's cool is he never made me

811
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: be the one to ask. I think he just forget

812
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: how that happened. He was just kind of like, you know,

813
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm I realized, like I'm gonna need to move.

814
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: You had a song back in the day. I'm not

815
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna put a year it because I don't know yours obviously,

816
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: because thought we hung out last week. Yeah, my sense

817
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: of time is completely off. That Make Them White song, which.

818
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh man, I have a love favorite relationship

819
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: with that song.

820
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask you about. So what

821
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: is your love Let's go, what is your love relationship

822
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: with that song?

823
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, I don't be careful I talk about it because

824
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: I love that I know, I know people were introduced

825
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: to me because of that song.

826
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: That's okay. I think I'm not lost on that, and

827
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody thinks you are.

828
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's my first radio single.

829
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: But if they still know you, they know that you

830
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: live an authentic yeah life, and you would probably say

831
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: to them if they were here, just like you're talking

832
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: to me, whatever your answer is here. Yeah, I don't

833
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: think anyone's going to be disappointed by your answers long.

834
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: As I'm just outgrown it.

835
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: But what was the good part about It's what I'm

836
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: asking what introduce me to about it? And then what?

837
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Because it is a feel way young, like I'm gonna

838
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 2: make a young like teeny.

839
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, man, if I was nineteen year a girl,

840
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't really make them white, no one, well, no, no,

841
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I still think. I

842
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: still love the principle of the song, which is like,

843
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: I love that a lot of girls were like man,

844
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I realized my worst because of this song, and that's dope.

845
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: And that's some of my parents always taught me and

846
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: my sisters, like the girl has the power, the man

847
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: courts the girl, but you decide where and when it goes,

848
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm glad like people got that message.

849
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: What's the hardest part about being married?

850
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good question.

851
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: I've only been married to I'm sane, if you're so.

852
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: I asked that because for us, I think the hardest

853
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: part has been for her having to deal with me,

854
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: as in I'd never really been in a relationship, like

855
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: a real relationship. Yeah, until her, even there's like a

856
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: long term not even romantic, but even at all, because

857
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't close with my parents, and except

858
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: for my grandma who raised me a lot of my life,

859
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: I really didn't have I didn't know how to be

860
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: close to somebody at all. So she's had to go

861
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: through a lot of those growing pains where it's like

862
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: I am nineteen in that part of my life. And

863
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: I think that's been hard. I mean, kind of but

864
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: also annoying for her.

865
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: Is it like she just knows your trigger points and

866
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: knows when you're like fishing away.

867
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 2: She had to learn the trigger points, and that's never

868
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: You only learn them if you get triggered. You know.

869
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm like, here are my trigger points.

870
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 2: You haven't never seen them, but these could be them.

871
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: But you know, there are a lot of things that

872
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: would make me very uncomfortable, just intimacy in general, because

873
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: I'd never experienced that, at least to that.

874
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: Like just vulnerability.

875
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: And I still struggle with it, but I am a

876
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 2: lot better at it because of her. But that's probably

877
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: been the hardest thing that And then I work a lot,

878
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: and I think I used to work even some just

879
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: to fill space because I didn't want to have empty

880
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: space because I felt like I felt like a freaking

881
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: loser and so and so. Yeah, so I didn't want

882
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: to be a loose.

883
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I just felt like it when you have

884
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: like a quiet moment, your brain starts.

885
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: Spiraling a little bit, a lot of bit. Yeah, and

886
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't allow that to happen.

887
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: And so do you feel more comfortable in the quiet now? Oh?

888
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I'm okay in the quiet. Then I'll

889
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: just find something to do. So I would do then,

890
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: but you know what, for her, I would be with her,

891
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: but I would still be looking for something to do. Yeah,

892
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: And that really that's not it. I'm supposed to be

893
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: trying to spend supposed to spend time with her. Trying so,

894
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: but it's been.

895
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: It's nice to feel unconditional love. Yeah, and like allowing

896
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: someone to love you unconditionally.

897
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: That is the harder part. I feel that the second.

898
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: Part, like what do you mean? I don't have to

899
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: prove myself. I don't have to constant do something.

900
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: Like why do I deserve this? Because it never really.

901
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: Had it and you didn't have to try for it.

902
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: It just it's just right. So but I also, it

903
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: came so easy. I feel like I could leave so easy,

904
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 2: and I think that was a big problem.

905
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Damn. I feel that, Like I feel like I didn't

906
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: have to look. I wasn't looking, And I feel like

907
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times this is interesting, that's an interesting

908
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: thought of Like sometimes I feel like I try to work,

909
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: quote unquote work for the things that God just wants

910
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: to give me. It's like, why can't I just let

911
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: him give me the gift and give me a blessing without?

912
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh God, I like I'm working for it, Like no,

913
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: what if he's saying, sit down, let me just give

914
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: you a.

915
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: Gift, why don't we just accept it? Probably because if

916
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: we think if it's free, it's not real, it's not valuable.

917
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: We think we're not worthy of it. We think we're

918
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: not worthy of a gift. Yeah, I think I struggle

919
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: even getting normal gifts when people. I never open them

920
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: upront of people.

921
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: I'll open a card in front of someone. But yeah,

922
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

923
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: What's been what's the hardest thing for your husband? What's

924
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: been something he's had to work through because either growing

925
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: up with all sisters or growing up you know, we

926
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: all have our own stories.

927
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: Hmm. I think I would have to ask him. I

928
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: don't want to put words in his mouth or anything,

929
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: because he's just so steady, like he's I feel like

930
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: he's so good at loving people, and like he's so

931
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: good at loving me. I don't I don't think there's

932
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: any man who could show me the kind of love

933
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: that he does. Is his patience and just lets me

934
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: be free and lets me roam and lets me create,

935
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: and he's so un threatened by it and anytime. And

936
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: he's a hard cookie to crack too, though, Like I'm

937
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: such an artist and I'm such a little like Pisce.

938
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: He's emotional. I'm like, tell me what you're thinking, tell

939
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: me what you're feeling, and he's like, no, I'm just

940
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: thinking and I'm like, that's the fun of thinking is

941
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: telling people what you're thinking. No, tell me everything. He's

942
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: just a thinker man. So I'm honestly, you're gonna for

943
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: a little marriage conversation. I'm like, what are you uh?

944
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: What are you struggling with right now?

945
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: Well it doesn't have to be now, but you know,

946
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: and too, even with me, even two roommates to move

947
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: in together, there's always.

948
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: I know, I annoyed the hell out of him, like he.

949
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: Says, by doing what though? By doing what do you

950
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: think is annoying about you?

951
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: Free and everything? I think I'm so annoying.

952
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: But do you think you're loud? Think? Yes, dude, yes,

953
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: But I don't think that's annoyed because I'm not with

954
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: you twenty four hours a day.

955
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he loves me for it. But he did

956
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: tell me, like he said he didn't know after our

957
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: first date because I'm so I'm so like into myself

958
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: sometimes too, And I asked him, I was like, what

959
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: was your first thought about me, you know, on our

960
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: first date? And he was like, I thought you were

961
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: the loudest girl I've ever met in my life. And

962
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like I thought he was gonna

963
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: say like, oh my gosh, you're so hot. Like what

964
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you were allowed to be Like.

965
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: Where did you guys go on your first date.

966
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: Jenny's He thinks, well, he had. He had planned out

967
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: a whole night because I was supposed to get into

968
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: Atlanta again this one radio tour and I we had

969
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: a whole conversation, like on the phone conversation. He's such

970
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: a gentleman, like call me on the phone, tell me

971
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: the plan, made the plans, and so he had. He

972
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: had texted me. He's like, hey, is your eta still

973
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: seven pm tonight? And I was like, should be seven pm?

974
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Turns to eight, eight pm turns to nine. I don't

975
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: get to my hotel till ten thirty. And by this time,

976
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: the dinner reservations out the door. All of his plans

977
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: are out the door. So he picks me up and

978
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: and he was like, is it okay if I take

979
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: you to ice cream? And I just wanted to be

980
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: with him. We got set up. So my big sister

981
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: and now my really good friends, Tyler's really good friends

982
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: Jarrett and McKinley brock. They were Ashland my big sister

983
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: and then were good friends up in New York and

984
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: they were at dinner one night and the Brocks were like, Hey,

985
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: we have this guy. We're trying to find him a girl.

986
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: He's such a stud, He's this a sis. And my

987
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: big sister, knowing me, she saw one picture of him

988
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, Abby would love him so

989
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: that she just picked me a picture of him, and

990
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: she was like, hey, he lives in Georgia. I know

991
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna be there in like a couple of weeks,

992
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: and we want to set y'all up. And I was like,

993
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: he can call me.

994
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: I let him call how long until he did?

995
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: He like, asked for my schedule? Are they the our

996
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: friends asked for my schedule? I made it really dramatic

997
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: and I didn't need to, but I was just having fun.

998
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: So it was like the next day or so, you.

999
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: Got engaged on a boat.

1000
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: We got he Yeah, we were all. George has become

1001
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: like my safe haven and we have a couple of

1002
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: properties out there, lake houses, and so it just became

1003
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: our COVID hideaway, you know. And yeah, he took me

1004
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: out in my canoe and to me in the woods.

1005
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: I had a gut the only reason I had a

1006
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: gut feeling it was coming. Was because I was depressed

1007
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: as hell, and this was like I was so freaking

1008
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: sad during COVID and this was like right after I

1009
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: left the label, like everything, and my sisters were all

1010
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: there and they came down the stairs and they were like, hey,

1011
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: like what if you didn't wear a sweatshirt today? Like

1012
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: what if you took your shower?

1013
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1014
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, what is going on? So I

1015
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: was still wearing a sweatshirt. I just put a clean

1016
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: one on, and that he proposed to me in this

1017
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: oh whatever, it was perfect though he's a stud.

1018
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah I think so. He said it many times, just

1019
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 2: like yeah, I hope.

1020
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: So it's nice to like your spouse. Yeah, you know,

1021
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't like their spous

1022
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm like I was.

1023
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll go through little probably many seasons where

1024
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: oh for sure, we've gone through mini sit where you

1025
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: don't like them but you still love them. Yeah, because

1026
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: I know there are times where I'm not very likable.

1027
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: Same and I'm I'm less likable than he is. He's

1028
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: very likable.

1029
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: How are you like you're the most likable. I forget

1030
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: how likable you are.

1031
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you only see You're only gonna see me

1032
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: for an hour today, Bobby, he has to see me

1033
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: all day, all the time. I'm not arguing I can

1034
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: be likable for an hour.

1035
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1036
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

1037
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: You're went in Houston Livestock Rodeo Big Show March seventeenth.

1038
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: That's cool, we're back.

1039
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm working again.

1040
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, back on the road. Is that fun?

1041
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? I missed it. I think for a long time,

1042
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: I like try to talk myself out of what I wanted.

1043
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: Because you may not get it.

1044
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Oh I felt that really, like just those

1045
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: moments of like fabilitating.

1046
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: Down yes, where it's like you're convincing yourself you don't

1047
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: want it, but actually you're just telling yourself you're so

1048
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: scared that if you don't get it, that you'll just

1049
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: be such a failure. So you're just gonna go and

1050
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: say you don' want it, so therefore it can't better,

1051
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: like crazy?

1052
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: Do you still do that?

1053
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: Yes? All the time?

1054
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: And what's the discipline there to like not let yourself

1055
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: talk yourself out.

1056
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: Of it acknowledging it that that's what it is okay

1057
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 2: because this fear, Yeah, because it'll never not happen. You're

1058
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: wired in that way. It's all my stay safe, yep,

1059
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: and to look for safety because it hasn't always been

1060
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 2: safe growing up, and so you want safety, So what's safe?

1061
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: And I would do it, and I felt like because

1062
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 2: of survival, I would not allow myself because I had

1063
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: to get to a different place. But then I started

1064
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: to realize, you know, I think I'm just doing this

1065
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: because I'm scared that if it doesn't work out, that

1066
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: I'll be a total loser and I will not be

1067
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: what I thought I could be. And the fact that

1068
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: I could acknowledge it actually allowed me to put it.

1069
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: Didn't make it easier, but it allowed me to just

1070
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: keep going, knowing that I wasn't wanting to quit for

1071
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: anything that was rational and logical. It was just fear.

1072
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: Is it ever a fear of being seen.

1073
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: In what way? Or being heard of not being seen.

1074
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Or heard of being seen or heard?

1075
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: Why do you think people if they finally see who

1076
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: you are, they're not gonna like you?

1077
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: No, Because again, I think I'm pretty likable at.

1078
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: Least for an hour. For an hour, you're the most

1079
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: likable person, so I do.

1080
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been asking myself that question.

1081
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: Explain that question though, because I don't understand the question.

1082
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: For me, my fear has always been if I show

1083
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: my real self and NOE, people are not going to

1084
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: like me. So it was let me try to be

1085
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: especially early, let me try to be exactly what I

1086
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: think I should be, because I can. I can chameleon

1087
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: into anything.

1088
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: I was a chameleon. I was like, I can make

1089
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: you like me. I know what you want, and I

1090
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: was how to be yes you want.

1091
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 2: And I was really good at it and it didn't matter.

1092
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: I could go wherever. And I think I kind of

1093
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: had to be that anyway growing up because there were

1094
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: just I was uncomfortable a lot growing up. So I

1095
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: had to figure out how to read people where I

1096
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: was safe where I wasn't, And that was just a

1097
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: natural skill. But then I was worried if I was

1098
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: my real self that nobody would actually like the real version.

1099
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is then, Yeah, because I found

1100
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: for a long time I didn't even know there was

1101
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: a maybe you relate to this. There was a long

1102
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: time where I didn't even know what I liked.

1103
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still that's still a struggle with me.

1104
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: It's still a struggle for me and I literally it's

1105
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: a discipline I have to do every single day, if

1106
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: it's cover art work. Even there was a minute, Bobby,

1107
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 1: this is like kind of sad. I had to wake

1108
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: up and ask myself what do I want to wear today?

1109
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: How do I want to do my hair today? Like

1110
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: that was a practice and I still have to practice

1111
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: that rewiringes. For so long, I was told what to wear.

1112
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: I was told what's modest and what's not and what

1113
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: makes me worthy and what doesn't. And I've never asked myself,

1114
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: does this make me feel good? Do I like this?

1115
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: And I proud of this? Oh my gosh, I'm like,

1116
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm twenty six years old.

1117
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: I'm still you're having to rewire your brain.

1118
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: Still I'm rewiring my brain all fun.

1119
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 2: And almost impossible, but can be done.

1120
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: And I had to. I think I'm learning to like

1121
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: I don't have to have it all figured out.

1122
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: To you'll never fee be successful, never figured out. And

1123
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: the people that haven't figured out actually don't. We just

1124
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: think they do, and that you would ask them and

1125
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: they would admit they don't. Also, yeah, nobody has it

1126
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: figured out. Yeah, some people look better doing it, but

1127
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: that's not because we're looking from afar.

1128
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: That's a good point.

1129
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: But anybody that I know that's been wildly successful in

1130
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: whatever arena, they will also say I never knew. I

1131
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: still don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, because there is

1132
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: no blueprint, really no, especially if you want to do

1133
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: it to be authentic, if you want to do it

1134
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: and be a version a one hit wonder pop song,

1135
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: not even music. But I'm just saying, like something that

1136
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: people like and then forget but have a little bit

1137
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: of success, that's probably that's probably able to be done,

1138
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: but it's not able to be sustain Yeah.

1139
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: I feel like the last couple of years has been

1140
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: such a blessing for me, Like, I I know what

1141
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: not being authentic feels like.

1142
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: And did you know you weren't being authentic? Though? When

1143
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: you weren't being authentic? Because I don't know that I did.

1144
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: I just knew I wanted to make people happy.

1145
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: I just wanted to entertain I just.

1146
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: Wanted to be the entertainer. And I feel like the

1147
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: last couple of years has been such a practice for me,

1148
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: a practice of practicing authenticity and like and just realizing

1149
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm like God, and I pray for those opportunities. I'm like, God,

1150
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: give me, give me an opportunity today to practice authenticity

1151
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: and to say no or to say yes, and those

1152
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: opportunities will come. And you're like, oh, period is you know?

1153
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: It's been fun.

1154
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: I keep a note on my phone of every lie

1155
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: I tell.

1156
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: Why, Gosh, this sounds terrible. I couldn't keep up with

1157
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: mine honestly, Well, what do you mean by what do

1158
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: you mean? Like? What kind of lies? Just lying to yourself?

1159
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: Uh? Because it makes me uncomfortable at times to even

1160
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: tell lies that I'm telling as like a white lie

1161
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: or to make to appease somebody, and in the end

1162
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: it usually comes back not a net positive. So I

1163
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: keep a list of lies just to remind me. I

1164
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: don't want to lie, even if it's uncomfortable.

1165
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: So this is like after a conversation you've had with someone.

1166
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: It's just an accountability thing, even if it's like, oh

1167
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: I like that, but you don't. For example, I was

1168
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 2: on a podcast talking with Eddie, who's my best friend,

1169
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: and I told him I had talked to this guy

1170
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: named John Middlecop, but I didn't talk him. I'd only texted

1171
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: with him and that really wasn't even in my mind,

1172
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: really wasn't alive. But then it got off and I

1173
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, no, only I lied.

1174
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is I like that, Wait, that might

1175
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: pick up up.

1176
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: It's just an accountability thing for me because I have

1177
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: to keep track of it, I notice it more. Yeah,

1178
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: and therefore I am. I feel like I'm pursuing and

1179
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm conscious of a more somewhat more authentic version. But

1180
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: sometimes sucks. It's not supposed to be easy. Though it's easy,

1181
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 2: everybody will be doing it.

1182
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: Are you going to therapy? It's a good thing.

1183
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I go to my I have my

1184
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: own therapist who I finally have one that I really

1185
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: like that challenges me hard, that makes me uncomfortable. And

1186
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: then my wife and I have one and we started going.

1187
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: It's the greatest counseling for us. Is awesome and it's hard,

1188
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: and but it makes everything else easier. It's like lifting weight.

1189
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: You get a lot. It sucks, like working out, but

1190
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: then you're just a lot stronger, so great after Yeah,

1191
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 2: it just feels good. What's up? So what? What what's

1192
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: happening with this music? What's it what's the deal.

1193
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: We're working on it right now. I'm practicing authenticity.

1194
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like are you are you gonna dribble out songs

1195
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: one at a time?

1196
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I'm in this still. I'm writing

1197
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: a ton and I've got like, as of right now,

1198
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: i have like a handful of songs I'm stoked about.

1199
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: And so now I do feel pressure, Like I'm feeling like, Okay,

1200
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of eyes on it, and like you know,

1201
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: hard on Fire Mexico. I'm super thankful that like brought

1202
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: in a whole new audience and that's the song. And now,

1203
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope it still is a song you

1204
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 1: never in today's world, like anything could be bigger than

1205
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: it is was ten years ago. You never know. And

1206
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: I love that song. But I am feeling I do

1207
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: feel a little pressure of like, Okay, this next stuff,

1208
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: it's got to be better than what I've done, but I.

1209
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't though it doesn't have to compare at all.

1210
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: It's more like raising my internal standard.

1211
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: That's great. That's what if you want to do that

1212
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: and it's healthy for you to do that feels healthy.

1213
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: As long as it feels healthy.

1214
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, but you can psych

1215
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: yourself out too, like I'll doubt myself.

1216
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: You know you always will. Yeah, you never won't.

1217
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a comforting thought, honestly.

1218
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: But it's both. It's you feel stupid and scary. It's

1219
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: scary because you're like, i'll never get opened to get

1220
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: through this, I'll always be this way. But then when

1221
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: you realize you'll always be this way again, you can

1222
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: acknowledge it and move through it knowing that it's not

1223
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: the end. Yeah, I remember, and we'll wrap on this.

1224
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: But I remember the last time you and I had

1225
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: talked on the phone and you were like, I want

1226
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: to do I want to be more of an online

1227
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: like or a social media I have a presence and

1228
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: I want to do me. I was like, you that person,

1229
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: that's you. You have such a there's such an attraction

1230
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: to just your energy in general, and I even forget

1231
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: about it sometimes until I see you. And I was

1232
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: just like, just be you. And I'm not in any

1233
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: way saying I did or said anything. I didn't say anything.

1234
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: It's the most generic thing ever, but I believed it.

1235
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: But that's what you did, and it's just I've just

1236
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: watched you blow up by just being you, and I

1237
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: didn't understand.

1238
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: Like people will always say, like, oh, just be yourself.

1239
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what myself is though, and

1240
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm still figuring that out now. I'm like, oh, like,

1241
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: I know when I like something, and I don't have

1242
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: a problem telling someone I like that I don't. That

1243
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: feels great. But I'm still like just the chiseling away

1244
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: down to the core.

1245
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,479
Speaker 2: And not to as they say, beat it dead horse.

1246
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: But you will never figure it all out, even about yourself,

1247
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: because you're always changing, Yeah, and so you'll never it's

1248
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: you'll always be chiseling.

1249
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like that. That's a fun thought.

1250
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: And it's terrifying at the same time. Yeah, because you

1251
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: never have a grasp. That's the terrifying part of it.

1252
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1253
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: But then when you realize you'll never have a grasp,

1254
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: then you don't hold yourself to a standard of I

1255
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: must have a grasp because everybody else does well, they

1256
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: don't either.

1257
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: I just like to think about like we're all going

1258
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: to die.

1259
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: I think about it all the time. We're just organically

1260
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: that's yeah.

1261
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 1: That's the most comforting to me. It's like, you know what,

1262
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: when I'm ninety eight and I'm on my deathbed the

1263
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: most comforting. I'm like, I just want to make sure

1264
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: that that woman is proud of me today. And it's like,

1265
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: you know what, even if it doesn't go, even if

1266
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: all my hopes and dreams don't happen, whatever, Like I

1267
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: did my best and I freaking went for it.

1268
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: You guys. Abby on Instagram Abby and Anderson Music TikTok

1269
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: Abby Anderson Music. I don't know, whenever you're ready, come

1270
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: up to the show. We can set it up whenever.

1271
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: It just use the use the golden ticket whenever.

1272
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: You want me know, when like a fun time.

1273
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: It's not that, it's just when you have whatever. If

1274
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: you want to, I want to.

1275
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: I want to co host one day.

1276
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: Okay, if Amy's ever out, I'll call you.

1277
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: Well, you'd have to, probably you do media training for.

1278
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: Our show. For our show, nobody's ever had media training. Really,

1279
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: there's a type of person that needs media training, and

1280
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: there's a type of person that needs to be told, hey,

1281
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: chilled just a little bit. Yeah, you don't need media

1282
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: training except for now you know exactly what you're doing.

1283
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: Except for sometimes early on you just wouldn't stop. Oh

1284
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: my god, and it'd be like hold on, hold on,

1285
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: hold on, Like I like what you're doing. We're gonna

1286
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: get back to just hold on once. But I think

1287
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 2: it was just it's just trying to do too much. Yeah,

1288
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: we all do that. We all do that. Yeah, but

1289
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: some people need media training, some people don't. You're a natural.

1290
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: You can host the show. Amy's never had media training.

1291
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: None of us have had media training. We just got

1292
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: in the media.

1293
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: And I just get scared of what I'm gonna say sometimes.

1294
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: You know same, but like, hey, there's an art to this,

1295
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: and there's an art to not thinking there's an art

1296
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: to it. Therefore it's even better. So yeah, so whenever

1297
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: you if you want to do hard off Fire in Mexico, great,

1298
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: you want to toe any music comes out, whatever you want,

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Speaker 2: let me know, come up, we'll have fun. I really

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Speaker 2: enjoyed it. I always enjoyed it. I forget how much

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Speaker 2: I enjoy hanging out with you until I hang out

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Speaker 2: with you again, so I'll probably gonna forget again until

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Speaker 2: next time. But you're awesome. Yeah, you're awesome.

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Speaker 1: You can forget about alcohol back around.

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Speaker 2: I believe it. At Abby Anderson Music on Instagram and

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Speaker 2: TikTok and you guys go follow her please. She's awesome,

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Speaker 2: as you can tell by the last hour.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production