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Speaker 1: No offense, but where was the offense? On Sunday Welcome

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Speaker 1: Bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calvis, he joins me

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Speaker 1: he's back from Seattle. Maybe he has the answers. What

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Speaker 1: we saw is not what we had seen from Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray and company in recent weeks. Meanwhile, the defense, they

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Speaker 1: were good, they were very good. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode eight twenty three, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again.

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Speaker 3: Some more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow here's Craigcreolo.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have found Paul conspicuous by his absence one

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Speaker 1: week ago today, and I'm guessing it's probably had something

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Speaker 1: to do with happened over the bye weekend. A certain

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Speaker 1: game that was played on Saturday in Berkeley in which

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Speaker 1: my alma mater beat your alma mater in college football.

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Speaker 1: That was the highlight of the bye weekend.

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Speaker 4: Paul well, if you took the under as to how

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Speaker 4: long it would take Craig Grielo to mention the final score,

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Speaker 4: which was not close, does not appear to be competitive.

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Speaker 4: Thank goodness, I missed it in its entirety, except for

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Speaker 4: a couple of clips on on social media which were

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Speaker 4: abysmal from a Cal standpoint. And you know what, maybe

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Speaker 4: I should thank you right now because it reset and

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Speaker 4: recalibrated the Cal football program to come back and beat

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Speaker 4: Stanford in comeback fashion at the very end. Yes, Elijah Higgins,

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Speaker 4: I'm talking to you and Michael Wilson as well. I

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Speaker 4: didn't bring it up in the postgame interview in Seattle

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Speaker 4: with Michael Wilson. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: Well, perhaps if the results on Sunday in Seattle was

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Speaker 1: a little bit different, you could have done that as Yes,

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Speaker 1: maybe as the quick out of your postgame interview, which

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Speaker 1: we will hear momentarily here on Cardinals cover two percent

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Speaker 1: to by a Hyundai probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I kind of bring up something that was

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Speaker 1: way out in the past because we didn't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about what happened on Sunday. Cardinals lost in Seattle

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Speaker 1: sixteen to six. The four game winning streak snapped. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: now six and five tied it with the Seahawks, but

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Speaker 1: the NOD goes to Seattle based on the head to

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Speaker 1: head and unfortunately, Paul, it is no longer the last

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Speaker 1: place Seahawks, but the first place Seahawks can always get worse.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's tough. I mean six in a row, you've

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Speaker 4: now lost to Seattle. And honestly, they put a pretty

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Speaker 4: good product out on that field. They're definitely not the

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Speaker 4: most talented team. They have weapons on offense, there's no

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Speaker 4: doubt they have a few dudes on defense, but they're

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Speaker 4: very well coached. Based on that game, the atmosphere was

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Speaker 4: a nough for the home team to feed off it.

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Speaker 4: But to me, that was the classic NFL game where

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Speaker 4: it comes down to one, two, maybe three big plays

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Speaker 4: that changed the course of the game. It wasn't dominant

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Speaker 4: one way or the other. Other than Leonard Williams, we'll

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Speaker 4: get to him. Otherwise, it was in Michael Wilson mentioned

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Speaker 4: a little bit this we'll hear this later. You know,

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Speaker 4: it just those one or two key plays that did

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Speaker 4: not go your way, and ultimately that means the final

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Speaker 1: And most of those key plays happening not happening on offense.

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to begin, Paul? Do you want

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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna start with Leonard Williams. I

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Speaker 4: was much more devastating than that. Honestly, from the sideline,

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Speaker 4: it reminded me of another ninety nine in the division.

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Speaker 4: And if Leonard Williams isn't a good four inches taller

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Speaker 4: Because that's how disruptive Leonard Williams was. And I almost

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Speaker 1: Next Gen Stats. We're all big fans of next gen stats.

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Speaker 1: This is what Leonard Williams did to that Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 1: A line of the Cardinals offense in totality twenty eight

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Speaker 1: He totaled nine pressures, two and a half sacks on

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Speaker 1: get to it because we talked about it on Cardinal Talk.

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Speaker 1: But you had five guys on your offensive line against

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Speaker 1: it wasn't just because Jonah Williams. Let's just get that

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Speaker 1: up at the start of Cardinal Talk. Yes, there was

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Speaker 1: a change along the offensive line. No, that was not

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Speaker 1: the reason why the Cardinals offense did not look good,

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Speaker 4: Long, you know, being field level, it was hard for

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Speaker 4: I think Joanah Williams was the liability. I really didn't.

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Speaker 4: I was watching that game thinking to myself, man, they

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest, at one point in that

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Speaker 4: Kyler's fast, but so is Devin Witherspoon. So the fact

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Speaker 4: game changing moment for all intents and purposes. But to

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Speaker 4: your point, it was a four man rush, and Wolf

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Speaker 1: That to me, was the biggest surprise on Sunday was

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Speaker 1: really as far as the initial line of scrimmage, just

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Speaker 1: James Connor only has eight rushing yards on seven carries, Paul,

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Speaker 1: those are numbers that we have never seen. Forget about Arizona,

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Speaker 1: And if you can't run the football, what do we

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Speaker 1: got to make that offense one dimensional. Will the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: became one dimensional on Sunday. And when you get pressured

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the pressure rate, according to next Gen Stats, was

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Speaker 4: And you saw the inability to get the offense going

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Speaker 4: his final numbers career highs he had a dozen catches

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Speaker 4: That's how wide open Trey McBride was. I'd love to

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Speaker 4: asking myself, what is the Seahawks defense against eighty five?

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Speaker 4: And the Cardinals response could have been, you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: We saw in the second quarter on the first scoring

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Speaker 1: That was the drive in which Paris Johnson Junior was

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Speaker 1: And this is sometimes where you can kind of get

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Speaker 4: And I thought at times the Cardinals receivers fared well enough.

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Speaker 1: The forty six yards screen pass, the longest play from

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Speaker 5: And I was a little distraught about the fourth down

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Speaker 4: That wasn't right.

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Speaker 4: Williams had a fantastic interception, but Oltherugh in his second

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Speaker 4: and two years at Seattle, by the way. But other

434
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Speaker 4: than that, Gino Smith was a headache as well.

435
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Speaker 1: Not the most mobile of quarterbacks, but he's able to

436
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Speaker 1: buy time in the pocket, extend those plays a little

437
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: bit longer because you look and again next gen stats

438
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Speaker 1: we love him. Twenty four of his thirty one attempts

439
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Speaker 1: were passes under ten ara yards, so it was a

440
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Speaker 1: lot of dink and dunk. Now he completed twenty of

441
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Speaker 1: those twenty four for two h seven and a touchdown,

442
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Speaker 1: the only passing touchdown this defense has allowed now and

443
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Speaker 1: I believe it's three or four games. So it wasn't

444
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Speaker 1: a lot of explosive plays, but the inability, especially late

445
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Speaker 1: in the game, to get off the field, and that's

446
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Speaker 1: what we saw earlier this season. I'm reminded of the

447
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Speaker 1: Detroit game that one third down that the Cardinals needed

448
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: in the second half couldn't get off the field against Detroit,

449
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: and again on Sunday in Seattle could not get off

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Speaker 1: the field. It was third and six, third and eight,

451
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Speaker 1: third and four, all converted led the Jason Myers fifty

452
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Speaker 1: yard field goal. Admit it sixteen to six with a

453
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Speaker 1: buck fifty six left to go in the game. So

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Speaker 1: as well as the defense played, my guess is every

455
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Speaker 1: one of those defensive players, and we heard Garrett Williams

456
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Speaker 1: talk about a postgame as well, they're going to look

457
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Speaker 1: back at what happened most recently and their inability to

458
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Speaker 1: get the Seahawks to the sideline.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting is after the game, and I'm not in

460
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Speaker 4: the Gannon postgame presser, we have the radio one on one,

461
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Speaker 4: but to the media, and this is I'm reading this

462
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Speaker 4: from Darren Urban's article Azcardinals dot Com. Just ripping it

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Speaker 4: off right here. Quote Gannon was lamenting his mistakes on

464
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Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball. He said he asked

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Speaker 4: coordinator Nick Rowls to keep it a quote tight menu

466
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Speaker 4: against Geno Smith. In hindsight, he said he should have

467
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Speaker 4: had quote a couple of more bullets end quote ready

468
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Speaker 4: for the playbook. Interesting maybe because he is a veteran

469
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Speaker 4: quarterback that they didn't want to get too exotic and

470
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Speaker 4: perhaps leave the defense too susceptible to certain things. But

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Speaker 4: next time they play sounds like here comes the kitchen sink. Perhaps, well,

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Speaker 4: your conversation with JG postgame something that Kyle Annenbasch noticed

473
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Speaker 4: listening to the conversation on that forty six yard screen

474
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Speaker 4: pass in which the head coach said, quote, that's my

475
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Speaker 4: fault now again Nick Ralis calls the defense. Was something

476
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Speaker 4: said over the headset or was this something that they

477
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Speaker 4: had talked about during the week that JG felt adamant

478
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Speaker 4: about Remember it was a couple of weeks ago, it

479
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 4: was against Caleb Williams. As far as didn't JG have

480
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Speaker 4: one plan, Nick Raalis has had another plan, and they

481
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 4: went back and forth and Nick ultimately won out. So again,

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Speaker 4: it's part of the game planned during the course of

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Speaker 4: the week. But you learn from it, which is how

484
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Speaker 4: JG opened up his press conference to the media. Overall,

485
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Speaker 4: you learn from what didn't work, and now again you

486
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Speaker 4: implement those changes in two weeks. But still you have

487
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Speaker 4: the Vikings staring at you at the in the face

488
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Speaker 4: and right now, this is a Vikings team that if

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Speaker 4: they were in any other division, Paul, we'd be talking

490
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Speaker 4: about this Vikings team as one of the top teams

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. What's the stat the Green Bay Packers

492
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Speaker 4: at eight and three or in third place and as

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Speaker 4: the lowest standing for an eight and three team in

494
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Speaker 4: the history of the model or an NFL. That is yeah,

495
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Speaker 4: that division is remarkable. At the same time, Sam Donald,

496
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Speaker 4: he's been prone to interceptions, he's been prone to inconsistent play.

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that's where I started assessing the

498
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Speaker 4: Vikings would be their offense to Sam Donald, Now the

499
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Speaker 4: Brian Flora's defense. Okay, I will say I think that

500
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Speaker 4: Gannon and company are pretty familiar with that sort of scheme.

501
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Speaker 4: They obviously had the joint practice two years ago in Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: and Brian flor has held nothing back against the Cardinals

503
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Speaker 4: in that joint practice. Two days of you know, full

504
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Speaker 4: speed football, and so interesting to see how this will

505
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: play out. But once again, that was a perfect play

506
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Speaker 4: called a JSN the forty six yard screen because the

507
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Speaker 4: Cardinals have been sending that blitz, especially with the linebackers

508
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Speaker 4: and football one oh one. Throw the ball where the

509
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Speaker 4: blitz vacates, and that's exactly what happened. And I don't

510
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Speaker 4: know if Rabbit was supposed to be in a certain

511
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Speaker 4: spot in the middle of the field, but Roy Lopez

512
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 4: was this close to bringing on JSM. But once he

513
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: broke that tackle from the d lineman lookout, not a

514
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 4: lot went bad for the Cardinals defense. But when they

515
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Speaker 4: did miss on a play, it was a big play.

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Speaker 4: I won't go back to that final drive. We talk

517
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Speaker 4: about missed opportunities. Xavier Thomas had a near sack of

518
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Speaker 4: Gino Smith on a third down play.

519
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Speaker 1: He beats it. Talking about Geno and all of a

520
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: sudden converts it and you stay on the football field.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that's the one thing that kind of

522
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: got lost on that final drive, and Passion Wolf did

523
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Speaker 1: a good job detailing it an eight minute drive when

524
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Speaker 1: you needed to stay on the football field and milk

525
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Speaker 1: the clock in which neither team, let's be honest, neither

526
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Speaker 1: team's offense was all that great. I mean, especially running

527
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Speaker 1: the football. Who was able to maintain possession of the football.

528
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Speaker 1: Where time of possession sometimes that's a throwaway stat. Time

529
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Speaker 1: of possession certainly becomes a lot bigger in those kinds

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Speaker 1: of games. And you hold on to a football for

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Speaker 1: eight plus minutes, I believe, and I think it was

532
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Speaker 1: you or pass mentioned it the longest scoring drive of

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Speaker 1: the season for the Sattle Seahawks. That to me was

534
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Speaker 1: a killer, and.

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Speaker 4: That I think in that moment at the very end

536
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Speaker 4: of the game, it really illustrated the difference between a

537
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Speaker 4: balanced offense and what the Cardinals were facing. The inability

538
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 4: to run the ball had made them one dimensional in

539
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: so many ways, whereas Seattle had the entirety of the

540
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Speaker 4: playbook open and because they got some effective runs, they

541
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Speaker 4: were looking at second and short and Jonathan Gannon on

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Speaker 4: Game Plan, his weekly TV show, that was the first

543
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Speaker 4: key to the game and beating Seattle that he cited

544
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Speaker 4: that he said, the Seahawks were so effective against the

545
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers a lot of second and short, and

546
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Speaker 4: when it's second and short, it opens up the entirety

547
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Speaker 4: of the playbook and really narrows down what you're able

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Speaker 4: to do as a defense. And at that point in

549
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: the game when it was raining really hard, you know,

550
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Speaker 4: you also had Seattle offense it supposedly, just from appearances,

551
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: had everything at their disposal, and they made them really

552
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Speaker 4: tough to defend at that point in the game. How

553
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 4: hard was it, Paul, Yeah, well, we got away with

554
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 4: the first three quarters and it was a light drizzle

555
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Speaker 4: and just a steady light rain you might expect because

556
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Speaker 4: that's pretty much every day in Seattle this time of year.

557
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 4: But I told the team doctors, we ain't getting out

558
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 4: of here without some serious rain, and sure enough, early

559
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 4: fourth quarter it opened up. And yeah, you can see

560
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Speaker 4: my water log notebook as evidence thereof Well, I.

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Speaker 1: Hope that notebook isn't two water log because we still

562
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Speaker 1: need the Angry Bird Award for this week. Week twelve,

563
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals lose in Seattle sixteen to six, but to go

564
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 1: still win lose straw Hopefully we never have to talk

565
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: about a tie here on Cardinals Cover two. But the

566
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: Angry Bird Award and what was a disappointing performance and

567
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: a disappointing outcome. Yet I'm still encouraged, and I'll just

568
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: explain why here momentarily. The first things first, the Angry

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Speaker 1: Bird Award goes to LJ.

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Speaker 3: Collier.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go LJ.

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Speaker 1: Collier.

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Speaker 4: I thought they did a good enough job in terms

574
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Speaker 4: of the run defense. Kenneth Walker did not wreck the game.

575
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Speaker 4: The former Seahawk was fired up the entirety of the

576
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Speaker 4: game on the sideline, you know, just that sort of

577
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: energy he was bringing. I think, guys, we're feeding off him.

578
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: He had a sack in the game. So for the

579
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Speaker 4: return to Seattle where he spent four years as a

580
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Speaker 4: first round pick, We're gonna give LJ. Collier for a

581
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: lot of dirty work in the trenches, taking on a

582
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Speaker 4: lot of double teams in that game. He runs the

583
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Speaker 4: Angry Bird Award.

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Speaker 1: In addition to the sack, three tackles, tackle for loss,

585
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Speaker 1: even had a pass defense and a forced fumble as well,

586
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Speaker 1: and you knew that this was a big game for

587
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Speaker 1: him after missing last season's two meetings against the Seahawks

588
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: because he was on the shelf. But yeah, LJ. Car

589
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: Callier going into the game fired up in the game,

590
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: performed well, but unfortunately does not get the victory coming

591
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: out of Lumenfield. But I'll say this and again, it's

592
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Speaker 1: whether you want to talk about the insertion of Jonah

593
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: Williams into the starting lineup, back at right tackle, the weather,

594
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: the noise, it was loud at Lumenfield. Look, this loss, yes,

595
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: it hurts because you could have, really, you could really

596
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: have put a stranglehold on the rest of the DIVI

597
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: vision the rest of the way with a two game

598
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: lead and three to zero against the rest of the division.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, Paul, this, outside of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you're in second place, this loss doesn't hurt a lot.

601
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Speaker 1: Not with three more division games to go, and even

602
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: if there's a setback next week at six and six,

603
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Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable in saying I don't think there's going

604
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Speaker 1: to be a runaway winner within this division. It is

605
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Speaker 1: back and forth, and I know the Rams struggled against

606
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: the Eagles. The forty nine Ers are banged up, but

607
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't count out either of those two teams either

608
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Speaker 1: here over these last six games.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're better than me. I'm counting out the forty

610
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Speaker 4: nine ers.

611
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: I really am.

612
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: As for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: History says otherwise, and I just can't go past the history.

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Speaker 4: You're right, No, you're you're absolutely right. And that's why

615
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Speaker 4: I say you're better than me because you're probably be

616
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: right on that one. Just to extend the injuries and

617
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: just the vibe on the forty nine ers, and we

618
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: saw it the entirety of the offseason with the contract

619
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Speaker 4: issues and Deebo Samuel going after the long snapper, and

620
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Speaker 4: I just there there doesn't seem to be something quite

621
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Speaker 4: right with the forty nine ers. Beyond just the injury report.

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Speaker 4: We'll see they've definitely made a run before we saw

623
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Speaker 4: what the Rams did a year ago. They started three

624
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: and six and then they won out and they went

625
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: to the playoffs. But you're right in terms of a

626
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 4: Cardinals team and what has Jonathan gannad done a really

627
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: good job of teaching off of losses, using losses to

628
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 4: reinforce where they need to get better. I don't think

629
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Speaker 4: the energy and physicality wasn't an issue except along the

630
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Speaker 4: defensive line, and Leonard Williams and Jaron Reid were both

631
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: very good. So what sort of adjustments can you make,

632
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: especially the interior O line going against a really stout

633
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: Vikings defense and ultra aggressive Vikings defense. I think that's

634
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: the real big question this week. What and Drew Petsen

635
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: put in the game plan to beat a Vikings defense.

636
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: When they want to bring it, you got to make

637
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Speaker 4: them pay.

638
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Speaker 1: And I haven't brought this up, but I'll bring it

639
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: up right now. This had nothing to do with the

640
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: bye week, and this I think had more to do

641
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: with how well the Seahawks are playing and just the Cardinals'

642
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: inability to kind of get going. It wasn't the weather,

643
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't the noise, it wasn't the bye week, it

644
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: wasn't Jonah Williams.

645
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: It was just a.

646
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Collective effort in which this Cardinals team, after four straight wins, stumbled.

647
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Speaker 1: It happens they weren't going to go seven to zero

648
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: after the bye week. They weren't going to run the

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Speaker 1: table within the NFC West. They were going to slip up.

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Speaker 1: And you hope that this is just a one game

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Speaker 1: slip up and you're able to overcome it. To your point, Paul,

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Speaker 1: the last time this team lost at Green Bay, they

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Speaker 1: won four in a row, so they have not lost

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Speaker 1: back to back games since Weeks three and four. Detroit

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Speaker 1: and Washington, now those are two very good teams. Although Washington,

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Speaker 1: let's hope the Commanders continue to lose, because if you

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Speaker 1: hope to have a wild card team coming out of

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Speaker 1: the NFC West, you need the Commanders to slip up

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Speaker 1: a little bit more and then get your way into

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Speaker 1: the postseason. So it makes the road a lot more

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Speaker 1: difficult the Cardinals with the loss to Seattle, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that roadblock is insurmountable. They can still

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Speaker 1: reach the playoffs. And if the key is restoring the

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Speaker 1: run game kram at vertical and James Connor, I think

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Speaker 1: we all have a lot of confidence that James Connor

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Speaker 1: isn't going to be held to eight yards on seven

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Speaker 1: carries two games in a row. If that's the correction,

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Speaker 1: and it revolves a lot around James Connor and the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, then I'm pretty bullish the Cardinals will be

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Speaker 1: able to execute that correction and institute what is needed.

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Speaker 4: And then if you can somehow get out of Minnesota

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Speaker 4: with a win and do something to victimize Sam Darnold

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Speaker 4: and take advantage of a very ultra aggressive Vikings defense

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Speaker 4: and set up that rematch against Seattle. Yeah, that is

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Speaker 4: a definite pivot point in this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we could completely be talking about something totally different

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Speaker 1: one week from today as far as how the Cardinals respond.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it will begin with James Connor. Can you

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Speaker 1: get him going? You figure out a way to keep

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Speaker 1: teams off of him or at least at least get

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Speaker 1: him into the second level because I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many of those runs he had much room, if any

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Speaker 1: at all. Now, could you have sustained a little bit

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Speaker 1: more or given it to Connor a couple more times

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Speaker 1: early in the game. We've seen that before. But it

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Speaker 1: just seemed like they noticed on the sideline that we

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Speaker 1: can't do what we want to do running the football.

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Speaker 1: Let's find a different let's find a different course to

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Speaker 1: get this football up and down the field. And that's

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Speaker 1: why Trey McBride had the game that he had. Again,

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Speaker 1: what are the adjustments when there's a game wrecking three technique?

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald did that the entirety of his career. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure there is necessarily an adjustment. Do the Vikings

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Speaker 1: have a Leonard Williams type player lurking ready for that

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Speaker 1: kind of game? Once again, Leonard Williams just had a

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Speaker 1: career game. I want an investigation as to why what

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Speaker 1: was behind that? What was the catalyst there? Why did

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Speaker 1: he basically have a season's worth of production in one game.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to know. But you got to make sure

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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen again, because once again Drew Petson can

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Speaker 1: sit there on his laminated play sheet. Doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: you call. If that guy is blowing up the interior

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Speaker 1: of your old line with regularity, there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: that's gonna work. By the way, the Vikings do have

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Speaker 1: thirty eight sacks this season by a number of different players.

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Speaker 1: So that's again just something to pay attention to as

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Speaker 1: we get closer and closer to that game. But before

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Speaker 1: we uh, before we allow Paul to leave and get

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Speaker 1: ready for his week's worth of work. I was Seattle,

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Speaker 1: big play anything you do anything fun? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a Pacific Northwest nothing.

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Speaker 3: No, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I was just one in a bunch of people who

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Speaker 4: basically were day Pash groupies, because everywhere Dave Pash went

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Speaker 4: on game day, everyone wanted to know about the end

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Speaker 4: of the ASU game, and so Dave had to explain

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Speaker 4: the end of the ASU game and his perspective and

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Speaker 4: what was going on and what should have happened with

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Speaker 4: the play calling. So, I mean, Dave's always a celebrity,

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Speaker 4: mister ESPN, but you know, he was Ron Burgundy on

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Speaker 4: this day. And and as I surmised more than once,

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Speaker 4: you know, Dave, you have a track record a pattern

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Speaker 4: of these sort of finishes following you wherever you go.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that was that was went out to dinner

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Speaker 4: with Yoda for a long time local radio listeners. He

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Speaker 4: the former producer of the Doug and Wolf Show. So

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Speaker 4: that was outstanding. Yoda and his wife's Steph. We had

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Speaker 4: a great meal, and you know, Wolf actually tried to

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Speaker 4: pick up the check. Who knows to him? You know,

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Speaker 4: I had to get in on it a little bit,

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Speaker 4: a little bit, but uh no, kudo's to Wolf as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture Ron Woofley going to reach over

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Speaker 1: to get the check and Paul slapping his hand away,

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Speaker 1: say no, no, no, I've got this.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: That was good.

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Speaker 4: You know this tis the season. Remember last year, during

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Speaker 4: his Christmas break by his own count now, Wolf set

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Speaker 4: a personal record. I think it was eleven pounds he

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Speaker 4: put on in twelve days. That's hard to do, but Wolf,

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Speaker 4: you know he was an overachiever himself last holiday season.

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Speaker 1: Stay away from the second, third, and fourth courses there

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Speaker 1: Wolf on Thursdays.

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Speaker 4: We wish don't need the appetizer.

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Speaker 1: Everyone in early Happy Thanksgiving here on Cardinals covered too.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we'll put a LI on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jim mamhndre our associhip producer Coddy Fincher. For

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Speaker 1: Paul Calvic, I'm Craig Rayal Loou. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two