Speaker 1: Now you're made man, introducing no hosts Wrestling with Freddy
Speaker 1: Jeff died soon. Yeah all right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome
Speaker 1: back to another episode of Wrestling with Freddy a k a.
Speaker 1: Wrestling with Friends with my most amazing co host, Mr
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Die. How are you good, sir? I'm feeling good,
Speaker 1: fresh back in action with Freddie Prince Jr. From a
Speaker 1: week of Vegas. So if I sound different this week,
Speaker 1: it's because my friends hate me. They tried to kill
Speaker 1: me party time. That just means you did Vegas the
Speaker 1: right way. I hear the Vegas in your voice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear. I hear the whiskey working its way out
Speaker 1: of your system. Congratulations. I wish I could have partied
Speaker 1: with you too, buddy. We missed you. Um. I gotta
Speaker 1: see your friend from Josh Wolf though, and I had
Speaker 1: to see a lot of your friends, so it's good.
Speaker 1: We talked a lot of Freddie talk this week. I
Speaker 1: saw you guys on the airplane together. For those you
Speaker 1: don't know, our dear friend Josh Wall, stand up comedian.
Speaker 1: I used to have a podcast with him back in
Speaker 1: the day called Friends in the Wolf. Jeff was stuck
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. So we're actually shooting this episode on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: You guys are hearing it today on Wednesday and are awesome.
Speaker 1: Producer Alex is going to cut this whole thing together
Speaker 1: in about thirty eight seconds to make it all work
Speaker 1: for you guys. So we'll even talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about last night's Monday and Night Raw, which was one
Speaker 1: of the worst three hours of television that I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life. Something weird happened to me last week.
Speaker 1: Then every once in a while, like once a decade,
Speaker 1: really pisces me off, and I just want to talk
Speaker 1: about it because it's something that's always been important to me.
Speaker 1: In the seventies, my dad, for those you don't know,
Speaker 1: was Freddie Prince. He was on a show called Chico
Speaker 1: and the Man, and he was half Puerto Rican, half German,
Speaker 1: and when he booked that show, people actually protested outside
Speaker 1: NBC studios because they didn't like Puerto Rican, let alone
Speaker 1: what a lot of people called a half breed portraying
Speaker 1: a Latino until levision, which was beyond defensive. And it
Speaker 1: was the seventies and y'all do your thing, But my
Speaker 1: father opened a lot of doors and inspired a lot
Speaker 1: of Latinos to get into the entertainment industry and see
Speaker 1: somebody that looked like them and spoke like them be
Speaker 1: successful in what is a very very white business. Jeff,
Speaker 1: You're incredibly amazing for being patient with me through all this,
Speaker 1: So thank you. Know this is good philam In. Every
Speaker 1: once in a while I've been hit with that kind
Speaker 1: of hate as well, because I'm only as my cousins
Speaker 1: would call me a quarto Rican. Now they say it
Speaker 1: would love. But every once in a while, there's some
Speaker 1: people in this industry, and it's not from the public.
Speaker 1: The public gives me a lot of love. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys. Oddly enough, it's people in my own industry,
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, that feel they're better suited to uh,
Speaker 1: to represent the Latino community, and really resent when I
Speaker 1: book certain roles. I have a movie coming out at
Speaker 1: the end of this month called Christmas with You, which
Speaker 1: is an all Latino cast and crew, director, producer, act,
Speaker 1: I mean, every bar steadicam operator. I mean, we we
Speaker 1: went deep on this. And I've always been so grateful
Speaker 1: and respectful and appreciative any time I've gotten a real
Speaker 1: opportunity like that, because it doesn't happen often. This person
Speaker 1: knows this. I'm not going to bury them because I
Speaker 1: want them to have opportunities to work. But there was
Speaker 1: a director in this business who didn't feel I deserved
Speaker 1: that role, and uh I found out about it on
Speaker 1: an email that was forwarded to me. And I just
Speaker 1: want to let anybody out there who is listening that
Speaker 1: is in this industry just know I have two ask
Speaker 1: cheeks you can kiss. I don't care which one it is.
Speaker 1: But I have always treated my culture and my heritage
Speaker 1: with the utmost respect. I have always made a very
Speaker 1: very direct effort to not only portray positive Latinos in
Speaker 1: this business, but to show that Latinos don't just have
Speaker 1: to play Latino roles. You can play any kind of
Speaker 1: rule you want. I love what I do. I love
Speaker 1: inspiring young people. I don't care if you're Puerto Rican, Mexican, Dominicano.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're from Panama, Guatemala, South America.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're from Spain and have blonde
Speaker 1: hair and blue eyes. I have always tried to be
Speaker 1: a positive influence in this community. I will continue to.
Speaker 1: I spoke with this cat last night. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna say anything else. And again, I don't want
Speaker 1: to bury him because he's gonna direct movies and hopefully
Speaker 1: give Latinos the same types of opportunities that I have
Speaker 1: for twenty plus years and uh in this industry. But
Speaker 1: he ain't done ship compared to me. So you know
Speaker 1: who you are, brother, Hopefully you have a bit more
Speaker 1: respect and always be careful who you email and what
Speaker 1: because sometimes they're gonna afford it to the person you're
Speaker 1: talking shit about. That said, all my Latino fans out there,
Speaker 1: I respect you, I got love for you. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys, letting me know when I inspire you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, letting me know when when you want
Speaker 1: following in the footsteps of people that that you relate
Speaker 1: to and connect with, whether it's me or or anybody.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to start the show with that
Speaker 1: because I know we got a big Latino community on
Speaker 1: here and I got nothing but love for you guys.
Speaker 1: I hope you go see my movie at the end
Speaker 1: of this month. It's on Netflix. You don't even have
Speaker 1: to go to the theaters. And there's some working here
Speaker 1: that I'm more proud of than any work I've ever
Speaker 1: done in my twenty five years plus now in this
Speaker 1: in this business. So I love you guys, even that
Speaker 1: douchebag that talks some smack um. I got love for
Speaker 1: you too, even though you got no love um for me.
Speaker 1: And now we're gonna start the show with some awesome wrestling. Jeff,
Speaker 1: I love you too, bro, So thank you. I love you, buddy.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Latino dominique Masterio, don't ever call yourself Eddie
Speaker 1: Guerrero of this generation. That is that's some Latino on
Speaker 1: Latino crime. And I don't like it. That's right, neither
Speaker 1: today j Style. Yeah, I don't like it. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump right into it. What we can talk about
Speaker 1: both Monday Night raws, last night's month or this Halloween's
Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw was not good. It was a strange episode.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it was just because everybody's getting ready to
Speaker 1: go to Saudi Arabia and uh didn't have time to
Speaker 1: do the show. But outside of seth Rollins and Austin Theory,
Speaker 1: which was freaking awesome, and they let they should just
Speaker 1: let them wrestle for a sixty minute like iron Man
Speaker 1: match or something if they were just going to phone
Speaker 1: in the rest of the show like that. But outside
Speaker 1: of that, this was the worst Monday Night Raw that
Speaker 1: I've seen since Vince McMahon stepped down as as the
Speaker 1: chairman of the board. Everything felt phoned in and we
Speaker 1: were trying to give love to Mustapha Ali. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would put him over big last week, and then the
Speaker 1: next week they put him in a backstage segment with
Speaker 1: the Miss where they had him checked the Mrs testicles
Speaker 1: twice and comment on them twice and wrote the worst
Speaker 1: backstage segment that I've seen, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: many months, made him look like crap, made MS sella
Speaker 1: jaw in order for Mustafa Ali to get the win,
Speaker 1: and made Miss get attacked by Dexter Loomis again in
Speaker 1: order for Mustafa Alile to get the wind. Hey, I
Speaker 1: don't know how the dude says, yeah, okay, I'll do
Speaker 1: this segment. I just don't. I don't get it, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to focus too much time on the
Speaker 1: bad stuff because I don't like doing that. But man,
Speaker 1: I was really wanting to like this guy. And then
Speaker 1: that segment came out on Halloween and I was just like,
Speaker 1: maybe it's because the Halloween Show and they're putting pumpkins
Speaker 1: on Otis's head and all this other dumb crap. You
Speaker 1: want to do that in the first hour when kids
Speaker 1: are still awake right on, but in like the second
Speaker 1: and third hour, when you can do more adult stuff.
Speaker 1: It just kept getting goofier and goofier. It was not good.
Speaker 1: And that's all I have to say about Monday and Ira.
Speaker 1: What about you, brother, Yeah, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that was confusing. It felt like I think you
Speaker 1: nailed it by saying it's because they're going to Saudi, right,
Speaker 1: but next week that gives them. But it felt like
Speaker 1: they were mailing it in. So I don't want to
Speaker 1: spend too much time on Monday Night Row because again
Speaker 1: I don't like talking about the bad stuff. I like
Speaker 1: talking about the good stuff. So if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: I would like to start with a E W Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Let's I always want to start with who I think
Speaker 1: is the best pure I don't even know if you
Speaker 1: can call him a heel or a baby face now,
Speaker 1: just the best pro wrestler in the business, which is MJF.
Speaker 1: But I watched FTR and Swerving our glory and I'm
Speaker 1: not the biggest tag team dude, but this was a
Speaker 1: fun match, man like. I loved the way everyone bounced
Speaker 1: off Keith Lee. I loved the work in this. I
Speaker 1: miss Swerve in w W E. I wish he was
Speaker 1: with hit Row. I think hit Row would be killing
Speaker 1: it if he was still there. Swerve is no joke.
Speaker 1: He is awesome on the mic, he is awesome in
Speaker 1: the ring. I was not familiar with his career before
Speaker 1: he went to n X T w W E and
Speaker 1: now A e W. I'm all in on this guy, man.
Speaker 1: I think Swerve is awesome. He's quickly becoming one of
Speaker 1: my favorites in that whole division. If they break him
Speaker 1: in Keith Lee up, I would watch him have a
Speaker 1: solo career every single week, whether he was a heel
Speaker 1: or a baby face. I just love this dude. Did
Speaker 1: you see this match? I liked it. I didn't think
Speaker 1: anything big or or bad about it. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're you're putting it over pretty big. I thought it
Speaker 1: was you know, it was fine, it was good. We'll
Speaker 1: move on. Didn't impact you. We're gonna get to Maxwell.
Speaker 1: Jacob Friedman and Renee Paquette got to interview him, and
Speaker 1: I loved her attitude. First of all, I love Renepo Catt.
Speaker 1: I think she's great. She hosted some she was a
Speaker 1: panelist before she went to a W on the w
Speaker 1: W rival show. That will be like the last episodes
Speaker 1: that come out after the holidays. M JF talks so
Speaker 1: much trash about her husband and you just see the
Speaker 1: look of disgust on her face that she even has
Speaker 1: to be there. Instead of being the professional journalist, she
Speaker 1: allows some actual personality to come out. So this dude
Speaker 1: walks out on stage takes the mic from her at
Speaker 1: one point, And this is kind of what I want
Speaker 1: to focus on today, and I want your opinion on it.
Speaker 1: I don't think baby faces and heels are necessary anymore.
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't think unless you're unless you're
Speaker 1: unable to communicate a character and you have to be
Speaker 1: a signed Hey, you are a bad guy, you are
Speaker 1: a good guy. I don't think the people care anymore
Speaker 1: in the modern kind of hyper cynical world where everybody's
Speaker 1: an insider, everybody thinks they know everything, everybody wants to
Speaker 1: spoil everything, like this guy is neither hell nor face,
Speaker 1: and every like dirt sheet or or other podcast out
Speaker 1: there keeps talking about you can't turn him, baby face,
Speaker 1: You can't turn he's been a baby face the last
Speaker 1: two years, like and if you don't like him, then
Speaker 1: he's been a hell and you're both right, like, he's
Speaker 1: literally gone beyond you being able to categorize him in
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form every single week that he
Speaker 1: goes out there, and it doesn't matter. If he wants
Speaker 1: you to boo and you're cheering, he will flip it
Speaker 1: up on you in a New York minute and absolutely
Speaker 1: cut your throat and make you feel like crap about
Speaker 1: your your self. And if he wants you to feel
Speaker 1: sorry for him and have empathy for him, he will
Speaker 1: own you in two seconds and tell you a real
Speaker 1: life story about how you know he made the high
Speaker 1: school football team and they started throwing quarters at him
Speaker 1: and saying pick it up, jew boy, pick it up,
Speaker 1: and you're literally like, holy ship, like this, this guy's
Speaker 1: breaking my heart, man, And then two seconds later he'll
Speaker 1: kick you right in the balls for feeling sorry for him.
Speaker 1: And I don't think you know, outside of like the
Speaker 1: Kevin Owens and guys like that, nobody, nobody can touch him,
Speaker 1: and I just I know, I blow smoke at this
Speaker 1: guy all the time, but I think he's completely obliterated
Speaker 1: the heel baby face thing, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: term should apply to him anymore. He's just something different.
Speaker 1: He's something completely different and unique. I hate the term
Speaker 1: unicorn because he's so much cooler than a unicorn. Man.
Speaker 1: I agree with you one percent, and I've actually said
Speaker 1: it for a long time. I think that as wrestling fans,
Speaker 1: we love our little wrestling argan. We we love we
Speaker 1: love that we know what a heal in a baby
Speaker 1: faces and other people might not, or we love saying
Speaker 1: it's a work or putting someone over or pop. I
Speaker 1: think that there isn't really a healer baby face storylines anymore,
Speaker 1: really at all. I agree with you one thousand percent.
Speaker 1: Guys will be jerks and we love them. And you
Speaker 1: know what I blame for it, Freddie who. I blame
Speaker 1: the industry, not you, buddy, I blame the industry. I
Speaker 1: blame comic books. Stop making these villains so cool. I
Speaker 1: want to root for Darth Vader. I shouldn't want to
Speaker 1: root for Darth Vader. I don't like these these stories
Speaker 1: and the things they make the bad guys so awesome,
Speaker 1: are so funny. If we were really being um, you know,
Speaker 1: if we were, if we were being good to the world,
Speaker 1: we'd make bad guys not likable and we'd make the
Speaker 1: hero likable. Instead, they make it the like Luke Coworker
Speaker 1: seems like a little nerd, and then Darth Vader comes in.
Speaker 1: He's all big black robot with the red light. You
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for that guy. Your parents are like, I
Speaker 1: don't know that's the bad guy, but I think wrestling
Speaker 1: does it all the time. Heels are so fun. Now
Speaker 1: you have this young generation of wrestlers that have come
Speaker 1: up only seeing these hybrid characters exactly seeing every character
Speaker 1: is Han Solo in the movie now. Now Han Solo
Speaker 1: is no longer the supporting character. Son Solo is the
Speaker 1: lead of the movie, of every of every movie now,
Speaker 1: whether his names Mike, John, Lisa, Brianna, or Han Solo.
Speaker 1: So there is no more line. And I think we're
Speaker 1: seeing that first generation of or at least a generation
Speaker 1: that are capable enough to execute at that level, sort
Speaker 1: of saying I don't I don't care about any of
Speaker 1: these standards anymore. I'm doing my thing and if you
Speaker 1: love me cool and if you don't cool, and maybe
Speaker 1: a lot of that of social media too, because they
Speaker 1: just have to deal with so much more criticism all
Speaker 1: the time, twenty four hours a day, that they've just
Speaker 1: developed these calluses that I don't think are ever gonna
Speaker 1: go away. Well, I think wrestling fans, you know, it's
Speaker 1: very inside baseball wresting fans. And guy saw a video
Speaker 1: of like Jericho going MGF is eventually going to be
Speaker 1: like Stone Cold of the Rock where he's not a
Speaker 1: healer baby face, and I was even listening to that
Speaker 1: thinking like, no, but they're not. Almost everybody isn't a
Speaker 1: healer baby face. If you like to wrestling fans, the
Speaker 1: respons might think they're they are, but like, that's all
Speaker 1: inside baseball stuff. I like matches on a w I
Speaker 1: watched Brian Danielson and Sammy Gavara wrestle, and Brian Danielson
Speaker 1: did what he needed to do based on what's happened
Speaker 1: to his character. I feel like most bands I would
Speaker 1: agree with this that Brian Danielson has been under serviced
Speaker 1: as far as character development and story goes. I feel
Speaker 1: like he has been in under serviced in his matches.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's lost more matches than he's needed
Speaker 1: to lose. I feel like his motivation for wrestling hasn't
Speaker 1: been written as well as it could be written. And
Speaker 1: he's had a couple of backstage moments now where he's
Speaker 1: sort of arguing with the Blackpool Combat Club, which is
Speaker 1: made up of him, Wheeler, Utah Moxley, the Werewolf, and
Speaker 1: my favorite Mr William Regal. They've taken that story, and
Speaker 1: I don't think this was intentional. I think it was like, hey,
Speaker 1: we've under serviced him, let's use it. And now it's
Speaker 1: become a part of his backstage interviews where there is
Speaker 1: a little bit of people questioning his his motivation and
Speaker 1: not his toughness, so to speak, but just his reasoning
Speaker 1: and rationale. And this son of a bitch has had enough.
Speaker 1: He got in a match with Sammy Guavara and beat
Speaker 1: Sammy's ass, and Danielson wins and isn't having it, and
Speaker 1: him and Wheeler fighting backstage, and and I like that
Speaker 1: kind of conflict. I don't think it's gonna break that
Speaker 1: group up, but that group needs to fight within itself.
Speaker 1: It needs to have that kind of conflict because all
Speaker 1: three dudes are super tough guys. Man like, you've just
Speaker 1: been looking good since they put him in there with
Speaker 1: with him JF. He had that Philly thing where he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: that you're in Philadelphia, we'll kick your ass after the
Speaker 1: show too, and then jumped on m JF and knocked
Speaker 1: him over a couch even though he lost the match.
Speaker 1: They've been making you to look good and violent. Did
Speaker 1: you like this match? Do you like what they're what
Speaker 1: they're doing with this or is this another cruise control?
Speaker 1: I loved it. Yeah, I thought it was awesome. I
Speaker 1: feel like these aren't the big giants that I like,
Speaker 1: but I like what I like what they're doing with it.
Speaker 1: Fair Enough? Am I am? I falling in love with
Speaker 1: Jamie Hayter? I mean, who Isn't I think I am? Dude?
Speaker 1: I really think I am. This girl. She's an English wrestler.
Speaker 1: She's she's built, thick, she's pretty, she wrestles tough, her
Speaker 1: moves look hard, her clothes lines look super mean and
Speaker 1: and rough. And she wrestled this this Japanese girl they
Speaker 1: call Jo, who I'm not that familiar with. This girl
Speaker 1: is small, she's a high flyer. The only way she
Speaker 1: can really do damage is by taking big risks, kind
Speaker 1: of like the old school Jeff Hardy philosophy, Like I
Speaker 1: can't knock you out, but if I jump off the
Speaker 1: top top turn buckle and do ten flips, I'll have
Speaker 1: enough momentum to jack you up. But I'm starting to
Speaker 1: love this girl. We have not mentioned Jade Carr Gill
Speaker 1: since you and I probably did our first episode because
Speaker 1: they have no storyline for her whatsoever. It's just kill
Speaker 1: this girl, kill that girl, kill this girl. The storyline
Speaker 1: they're doing now with the stolen belt, I don't care about.
Speaker 1: I love Jade, but they're not They're not taking care
Speaker 1: of her storyline wise. I think Jamie Hayter needs to
Speaker 1: be the one that actually can challenge Jade Carr Gill,
Speaker 1: but established Jamie and make her be the first one
Speaker 1: to give Jade her first loss in in a aw
Speaker 1: I'm legit starting to fall for this girl. Her promos
Speaker 1: are they're not bad. She's not, you know, the best
Speaker 1: on the mic, but she's communicating an effective message when
Speaker 1: she gets pissed at her friends like she did Britt Baker.
Speaker 1: I'm buying it. I'm not gonna say I'm all in
Speaker 1: on Jamie Hayter yet because I don't know if the
Speaker 1: company is, but I am falling in love with this girl,
Speaker 1: and I think she's doing great stuff and I really
Speaker 1: hope she's on the way to win in a championship. Man,
Speaker 1: what about you. Here's the thing, Either do something with
Speaker 1: Jade Cargill or or don't. I feel like everything they're
Speaker 1: doing with her is I feel like they're just wasting
Speaker 1: her away because she's awesome. She's she's got a great look,
Speaker 1: she's great wrestling, she's you know, she's five ten, but
Speaker 1: like she seems like a seven footer in there with
Speaker 1: all these other girls. I love Jade Cargill, but if
Speaker 1: you're not gonna she looks so superior to everyone in
Speaker 1: the demos, and that's why they should use her. They
Speaker 1: should make her, like, like really kill it with the
Speaker 1: storylines with her, and I feel like everything falls flat.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's writing or if that's
Speaker 1: her her not being able to pull off what they're
Speaker 1: writing for her. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: either use Jade or or you know, or bring in
Speaker 1: some young blood like Jamie Hayter another Jade Cargo thing.
Speaker 1: I love how mad wrestling fans get at this girl
Speaker 1: listen on social media. Jade Cargill is living her gimmick
Speaker 1: and she got in this like beef with bow Wow
Speaker 1: right because I guess bow Wow thinks she's hot and
Speaker 1: had a crush on her. The rapper producer producer, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't bought his music. In a world
Speaker 1: where every wrestler breaks gimmick on social media and it's like,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for liking my match, this girl
Speaker 1: is living her I'm that bitch. I don't care what
Speaker 1: you say. I'm better than everyone. Look at me and
Speaker 1: look at you. I'm hotter than you. I'm in better
Speaker 1: shape than you. That's good. You should. You should applaud
Speaker 1: wrestlers that are willing to live their gimmick. My final
Speaker 1: tweet I I quit Twitter, by the way, I blew
Speaker 1: it up. Um. My final tweet was applaud wrestlers that
Speaker 1: are willing to live their gimmick. There's only like three
Speaker 1: of them left on the and the world celebrate that.
Speaker 1: You guys, don't get in your feelings when your expectation
Speaker 1: as a fan is not met by a wrestler doing
Speaker 1: their job. Could you imagine if ten year old Freddie
Speaker 1: Prince Jr. Ten year old Jeff Dy decided to pop
Speaker 1: out there you know, time machine cell phones, and we
Speaker 1: saw ted d Bazi tweeting about about his chy t.
Speaker 1: He's gone on, I just found a great chy t
Speaker 1: on my drive to Connecticut. I'd be like, what the
Speaker 1: million dollar man is is posting photos of him and
Speaker 1: his girlfriend? Like I would be furious, like handing out
Speaker 1: soup at a local soup kitchen, Like what, you're the
Speaker 1: million dollar man, dude, Yeah, I would. It's so it's
Speaker 1: so silly. I'm interested in original thought. And I know
Speaker 1: we live in a world now where we celebrate copying, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's what TikTok is. You're taking dialogue from other
Speaker 1: movies and lip syncing over the work of very creative people,
Speaker 1: very effective artists, or your lip syncing to music and
Speaker 1: lyrics that were written by talented musicians and writers and
Speaker 1: things like that, and we celebrate and reward that. But
Speaker 1: when we reward this is like everyone gets a trophy,
Speaker 1: right when we reward mediocrity, when everyone wants to be famous,
Speaker 1: then no one's famous. It's just all mediocre and I'm not.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember guys. I'm forty six. We crucified Millie Vanilli.
Speaker 1: We crucified them. We literally ran them out of the
Speaker 1: music business for not being original and lip sincing other
Speaker 1: talented singers voices. We ran them out of the business,
Speaker 1: ridiculed them, made fun of them, humiliated them. I think
Speaker 1: one of them might have killed himself, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even remember, Like it was rough. Now you get a
Speaker 1: movie if you do it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you'll book a movie, You'll get to be a
Speaker 1: host on a show, like you will legit, win a
Speaker 1: prize for just copying. So that's never something that I'm
Speaker 1: ever gonna be able to to get behind just because
Speaker 1: I'm an old fuddy duddy. Man, I was just from
Speaker 1: a different generation. I encourage my kids all the time,
Speaker 1: like be original. If my son is like, oh, these
Speaker 1: YouTubers are super funny, I'm like, jackass did it first,
Speaker 1: Like I let him know what time it is, man,
Speaker 1: Like it's not it's not original, buddy, Like these guys
Speaker 1: did it way better. And look at their personalities and
Speaker 1: look at how different everyone is. And it's not just
Speaker 1: everybody going ah, screaming and yelling like they were trying
Speaker 1: new stuff. I'm not saying those guys are the most
Speaker 1: talented artists ever, but that's what a lot of YouTube
Speaker 1: is these days. We're gonna get to Friday Night SmackDown.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had anything critical to say
Speaker 1: about a break a storyline, even if I didn't flick
Speaker 1: with it, because even when they did stuff that was
Speaker 1: way out of the box, the level of commitment was
Speaker 1: at such a high level that I respected it for that,
Speaker 1: Like the cinematic match he did a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago in The Pandemic with John Cena. That was not
Speaker 1: my kind of match. However, the level of commitment was
Speaker 1: at such a level that I respected the effort. Right,
Speaker 1: It's not easy to pull that off in the times
Speaker 1: they were in with that kind of character um to
Speaker 1: get John Cena to agree to do that and kinda
Speaker 1: and kind of crap on himself and some of that
Speaker 1: stuff at the same time, like there were a lot
Speaker 1: of challenges in there. However, they have introduced a new
Speaker 1: character named Uncle Howdy, and I did not like anything
Speaker 1: about this, Jeff, I don't get it. I thought the
Speaker 1: production didn't look that high quality, the sound was bad.
Speaker 1: Can't understand the guy behind the man, and we all
Speaker 1: know it's Taylor or bow Dallas. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: kind of tell. And maybe I'm wrong, but it looks
Speaker 1: like bow Dallas to me pretty sure. Even had the
Speaker 1: same crucifix earring in his ear and one of them
Speaker 1: when he turned his head a little bit. But I
Speaker 1: don't I don't get it. I don't know how they're
Speaker 1: gonna save it. I don't know how they're gonna make
Speaker 1: me like it. Maybe it's not meant for me. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not in the key demographic anymore.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe other people do, but I did not get
Speaker 1: this moment. I like what Bray's doing. There's another example
Speaker 1: of not face or heal. People are getting mad at
Speaker 1: Brace and he's not getting any heat. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a hell. I don't think he's a baby face.
Speaker 1: I think he is Bray Wyatt, and he is something
Speaker 1: unique to the wrestling universe, and he should be allowed
Speaker 1: to cut any kind of promo he wants, and he
Speaker 1: should be able to wrestle anybody he wants and let
Speaker 1: the crowd decide who they want to cheer for. More.
Speaker 1: But this was very weird to me. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I did not enjoy a single moment of Uncle Howdy.
Speaker 1: I love the brave part of it. The Bray half
Speaker 1: is great. It's not wearing me out. I know some
Speaker 1: people are like always crying too much. I don't think
Speaker 1: so at all. I think he's really feeding off the crowd,
Speaker 1: and I think he's trying to give the crowd back
Speaker 1: that same energy to kind of have this new chapter
Speaker 1: in his career. But this Uncle Howdy thing came off
Speaker 1: super corny to me. Jeff, tell me I'm wrong. I
Speaker 1: actually will tell you you're wrong. I like it. I
Speaker 1: do think this. So here's the thing. It's playing on
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I like because you know, the
Speaker 1: who is it is very fun. I do agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think it's Bow Dallas and I think this is
Speaker 1: him trying to like, you know, bring his brother into
Speaker 1: the industry at the at the level that he's at,
Speaker 1: Like he's doing like a nice thing for like, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of trying to create this undertaker to Cain Is
Speaker 1: Bray Wyatt Tebow kind of thing, like bringing the fam
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I don't even think about that. But
Speaker 1: then they also like, I'm a do you is it
Speaker 1: the face that's bothering you of of Uncle Howney? Is
Speaker 1: that what it is is that the mask, all of it,
Speaker 1: the mask doesn't look because you're a big You're a
Speaker 1: big mask guy. People can't see this podcast. People can't
Speaker 1: see the podcast. But even behind you, you have a
Speaker 1: lot of masks back there. You love masks, you know
Speaker 1: the paparazzi has caught you wearing masks in public when
Speaker 1: during COVID you're a big mask. It is a it's
Speaker 1: a weird looking mask. This guy's wearing. Uncle Howdy's wearing
Speaker 1: a weird mask. Um, would it change it for you
Speaker 1: if he looked better? Because it is a weird look.
Speaker 1: I mean it makes it look like kind of cap.
Speaker 1: The production of it does not look like high quality
Speaker 1: to me. It looks like a very cheap, cheaply made
Speaker 1: thrown on. It doesn't look like flesh if that's what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do, like a like a leather face
Speaker 1: is kind of buffalo bill vibe. It doesn't give me
Speaker 1: those It looks like a cheap eighties w W E
Speaker 1: crappy mask that he can't talk it. He can't talk
Speaker 1: in it, yea, and you can't say nothing moves, like
Speaker 1: when we're just looking at this weird mask and then
Speaker 1: it sounds like a voiceover almost he can't see his
Speaker 1: mouth or anything, and you can tell it's impeding his speech,
Speaker 1: like because it's it doesn't fit his face right, like,
Speaker 1: so it's affecting his ability to communicate an effective message.
Speaker 1: To me, I didn't think about the inside part of it,
Speaker 1: which you said, which was kind of like the Taker
Speaker 1: to Caine Bray to Bow type thing. And we both
Speaker 1: agree it's bow Dallas. Even if we're wrong, I think
Speaker 1: we're both on the same page there, and it would
Speaker 1: make sense give it to that because he could be
Speaker 1: kind of like this altar brain. But it's like we
Speaker 1: maybe people don't know that bray Wyatt, the everyday fan
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't know I guess they would. Maybe he's bow
Speaker 1: Dalla has been a wrestling for a long time, right,
Speaker 1: I mean like I just don't know what they do though,
Speaker 1: Like so they're gonna wrestle each other, Okay. I think
Speaker 1: the character as it's also bray Wyatt, Like that's bray
Speaker 1: Wyatt wrestling himself and he's always become these two things.
Speaker 1: But it's really just Bo Dallas pretending to be Bray Wyatt.
Speaker 1: That's what I think wrestling this week for w W
Speaker 1: E for me anyway outside Like I said at the
Speaker 1: top of the show, Seth and Austin Theory killed that match.
Speaker 1: But other than that, like this week, WW just missed
Speaker 1: me hard. Do you even have a best of the week?
Speaker 1: Do you have the worst of the week. My best
Speaker 1: of the week is a tip of the hat to
Speaker 1: a very old school wrestling thing. Uh, when you've got
Speaker 1: a big giant backstage and you go, how do we
Speaker 1: make him look even more scary and good while giving
Speaker 1: him a little bit of work? Put him in there
Speaker 1: with three jobbers that nobody has heard of, almost had
Speaker 1: a fight with three guys that nobody knew the name of,
Speaker 1: didn't have entrance music. It was it was amazing. You
Speaker 1: are the most old school, young at heart wrestling thing
Speaker 1: in that way, and it said, dude, I love you
Speaker 1: so much. My best of the week I already discussed. Um,
Speaker 1: you can pick that the MJF promo. You can pick
Speaker 1: Rollins in Theory because they gave him multiple breaks. My
Speaker 1: worst of the week was the mustapha Alist segment backstage
Speaker 1: with miss I would love to look. I like the
Speaker 1: way this kid works. I've never really watched him that much.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big n X T guy. I think
Speaker 1: his matches look good. I think his works really clean.
Speaker 1: I just thought that was the absolute worst way to
Speaker 1: attempt to get somebody over that I've seen, and I
Speaker 1: don't know how long. I don't know how you get
Speaker 1: over as a tough guy wrestler that's gonna win when
Speaker 1: you have a whole segment and the note is you
Speaker 1: have to look at this guy's balls the whole time.
Speaker 1: Just don't. How am I gonna be like, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my guy right there. I just don't. So that was
Speaker 1: my word. That was my worst of the week. We're
Speaker 1: hoping that Crown Jewel everyone gets out of their healthy,
Speaker 1: happy and act to make some awesome wrestling for us
Speaker 1: so that we can have some positive stuff to talk
Speaker 1: about this week. It's not often that I think a
Speaker 1: E W outperforms w w E, but I certainly thought
Speaker 1: they did this week. Jeff, are you recovering from Vegas
Speaker 1: or are you gonna be working this weekend? I'm working
Speaker 1: this weekend. I'll be at the Irvine Improv in Orange
Speaker 1: County all weekend. I've been to that club as a
Speaker 1: big club, and it's in the mom It's in like
Speaker 1: a big main room. Yeah, and uh they always have
Speaker 1: top shelf comics in there, and now they got another
Speaker 1: one named Jeff Dot check my man out there. I
Speaker 1: am officially hiring a realtor to find me a studio,
Speaker 1: and I'm moving out of my attic so there are
Speaker 1: no more trash cans, trash trucks, beeping trucks, crappy internet connections.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a professional office that I'm gonna work in. Dude,
Speaker 1: we will do together, are you kidding? Its great together? Yes? Please,
Speaker 1: I'm sick of these things because you know, it reminds
Speaker 1: me of when I lost my mind during COVID. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of that. I much rather come be with you, buddy,
Speaker 1: zoom Sucks. Will have an awesome table with microphones on
Speaker 1: opposite sides. We'll be able to high five each other.
Speaker 1: We'll be able to eat hot dogs and and look
Speaker 1: at each other's testicles, just like Mustafa. Yeah, I can
Speaker 1: make bad jokes and then smile snicker at Alex Gon
Speaker 1: like is he laughing? Is he laughing at my bed? Well?
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