WEBVTT - Are Babyfaces and Heels a Thing Anymore? 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:08.479 Now you're made man, introducing no hosts Wrestling with Freddy 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:16.040 Jeff died soon. Yeah all right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.439 back to another episode of Wrestling with Freddy a k a. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.960 Wrestling with Friends with my most amazing co host, Mr 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.840 Jeffrey Die. How are you good, sir? I'm feeling good, 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.000 fresh back in action with Freddie Prince Jr. From a 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.040 week of Vegas. So if I sound different this week, 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.200 it's because my friends hate me. They tried to kill 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.800 me party time. That just means you did Vegas the 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.760 right way. I hear the Vegas in your voice. Yeah, 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.360 I hear. I hear the whiskey working its way out 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.760 of your system. Congratulations. I wish I could have partied 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.240 with you too, buddy. We missed you. Um. I gotta 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.400 see your friend from Josh Wolf though, and I had 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:54.840 to see a lot of your friends, so it's good. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.920 We talked a lot of Freddie talk this week. I 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.080 saw you guys on the airplane together. For those you 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.240 don't know, our dear friend Josh Wall, stand up comedian. 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.160 I used to have a podcast with him back in 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.880 the day called Friends in the Wolf. Jeff was stuck 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:11.880 in Las Vegas. So we're actually shooting this episode on Tuesday. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.959 You guys are hearing it today on Wednesday and are awesome. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.319 Producer Alex is going to cut this whole thing together 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.520 in about thirty eight seconds to make it all work 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.959 for you guys. So we'll even talk a little bit 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.039 about last night's Monday and Night Raw, which was one 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.039 of the worst three hours of television that I've ever 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:33.199 seen in my life. Something weird happened to me last week. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.480 Then every once in a while, like once a decade, 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.000 really pisces me off, and I just want to talk 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.000 about it because it's something that's always been important to me. 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.800 In the seventies, my dad, for those you don't know, 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.800 was Freddie Prince. He was on a show called Chico 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.440 and the Man, and he was half Puerto Rican, half German, 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.560 and when he booked that show, people actually protested outside 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.080 NBC studios because they didn't like Puerto Rican, let alone 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.800 what a lot of people called a half breed portraying 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:03.800 a Latino until levision, which was beyond defensive. And it 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.680 was the seventies and y'all do your thing, But my 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.519 father opened a lot of doors and inspired a lot 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.320 of Latinos to get into the entertainment industry and see 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.440 somebody that looked like them and spoke like them be 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.239 successful in what is a very very white business. Jeff, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.080 You're incredibly amazing for being patient with me through all this, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.360 So thank you. Know this is good philam In. Every 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.480 once in a while I've been hit with that kind 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.320 of hate as well, because I'm only as my cousins 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.560 would call me a quarto Rican. Now they say it 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.920 would love. But every once in a while, there's some 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.920 people in this industry, and it's not from the public. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.960 The public gives me a lot of love. I appreciate 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.280 you guys. Oddly enough, it's people in my own industry, 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:49.639 the entertainment industry, that feel they're better suited to uh, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.920 to represent the Latino community, and really resent when I 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.200 book certain roles. I have a movie coming out at 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.800 the end of this month called Christmas with You, which 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:03.160 is an all Latino cast and crew, director, producer, act, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.320 I mean, every bar steadicam operator. I mean, we we 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.200 went deep on this. And I've always been so grateful 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.440 and respectful and appreciative any time I've gotten a real 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.720 opportunity like that, because it doesn't happen often. This person 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:20.760 knows this. I'm not going to bury them because I 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.360 want them to have opportunities to work. But there was 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.320 a director in this business who didn't feel I deserved 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.840 that role, and uh I found out about it on 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.880 an email that was forwarded to me. And I just 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.960 want to let anybody out there who is listening that 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.480 is in this industry just know I have two ask 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.280 cheeks you can kiss. I don't care which one it is. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.080 But I have always treated my culture and my heritage 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.440 with the utmost respect. I have always made a very 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.720 very direct effort to not only portray positive Latinos in 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.440 this business, but to show that Latinos don't just have 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.600 to play Latino roles. You can play any kind of 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.839 rule you want. I love what I do. I love 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:08.520 inspiring young people. I don't care if you're Puerto Rican, Mexican, Dominicano. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.640 I don't care if you're from Panama, Guatemala, South America. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.040 I don't care if you're from Spain and have blonde 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.760 hair and blue eyes. I have always tried to be 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.520 a positive influence in this community. I will continue to. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:26.320 I spoke with this cat last night. I don't think 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.480 he's gonna say anything else. And again, I don't want 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.960 to bury him because he's gonna direct movies and hopefully 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.000 give Latinos the same types of opportunities that I have 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.320 for twenty plus years and uh in this industry. But 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.560 he ain't done ship compared to me. So you know 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.800 who you are, brother, Hopefully you have a bit more 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.719 respect and always be careful who you email and what 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.000 because sometimes they're gonna afford it to the person you're 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.920 talking shit about. That said, all my Latino fans out there, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.719 I respect you, I got love for you. I appreciate 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.960 you guys, letting me know when I inspire you. I 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.960 appreciate you guys, letting me know when when you want 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.159 following in the footsteps of people that that you relate 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.320 to and connect with, whether it's me or or anybody. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.040 So I just wanted to start the show with that 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.159 because I know we got a big Latino community on 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.200 here and I got nothing but love for you guys. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.280 I hope you go see my movie at the end 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.280 of this month. It's on Netflix. You don't even have 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.320 to go to the theaters. And there's some working here 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.719 that I'm more proud of than any work I've ever 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.080 done in my twenty five years plus now in this 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.880 in this business. So I love you guys, even that 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.039 douchebag that talks some smack um. I got love for 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.800 you too, even though you got no love um for me. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:37.320 And now we're gonna start the show with some awesome wrestling. Jeff, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.520 I love you too, bro, So thank you. I love you, buddy. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:47.080 Speaking of Latino dominique Masterio, don't ever call yourself Eddie 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:51.960 Guerrero of this generation. That is that's some Latino on 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:57.400 Latino crime. And I don't like it. That's right, neither 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.320 today j Style. Yeah, I don't like it. So we're 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.640 gonna jump right into it. What we can talk about 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.159 both Monday Night raws, last night's month or this Halloween's 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.920 Monday Night Raw was not good. It was a strange episode. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.840 I'm hoping it was just because everybody's getting ready to 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.159 go to Saudi Arabia and uh didn't have time to 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:23.680 do the show. But outside of seth Rollins and Austin Theory, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.960 which was freaking awesome, and they let they should just 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.640 let them wrestle for a sixty minute like iron Man 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.520 match or something if they were just going to phone 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.680 in the rest of the show like that. But outside 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.599 of that, this was the worst Monday Night Raw that 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.279 I've seen since Vince McMahon stepped down as as the 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.720 chairman of the board. Everything felt phoned in and we 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.040 were trying to give love to Mustapha Ali. Yeah, I 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.800 would put him over big last week, and then the 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.560 next week they put him in a backstage segment with 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.720 the Miss where they had him checked the Mrs testicles 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:05.720 twice and comment on them twice and wrote the worst 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.479 backstage segment that I've seen, and I don't know how 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.560 many months, made him look like crap, made MS sella 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.080 jaw in order for Mustafa Ali to get the win, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.400 and made Miss get attacked by Dexter Loomis again in 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.880 order for Mustafa Alile to get the wind. Hey, I 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.200 don't know how the dude says, yeah, okay, I'll do 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.600 this segment. I just don't. I don't get it, and 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.320 I don't want to focus too much time on the 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.920 bad stuff because I don't like doing that. But man, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.120 I was really wanting to like this guy. And then 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.920 that segment came out on Halloween and I was just like, 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.160 maybe it's because the Halloween Show and they're putting pumpkins 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.280 on Otis's head and all this other dumb crap. You 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.120 want to do that in the first hour when kids 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.880 are still awake right on, but in like the second 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.160 and third hour, when you can do more adult stuff. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.280 It just kept getting goofier and goofier. It was not good. 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.200 And that's all I have to say about Monday and Ira. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.400 What about you, brother, Yeah, there was a lot of 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.080 stuff that was confusing. It felt like I think you 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.040 nailed it by saying it's because they're going to Saudi, right, 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.520 but next week that gives them. But it felt like 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:20.360 they were mailing it in. So I don't want to 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.880 spend too much time on Monday Night Row because again 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.080 I don't like talking about the bad stuff. I like 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.360 talking about the good stuff. So if you don't mind, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:35.000 I would like to start with a E W Dynamite. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:40.360 Let's I always want to start with who I think 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.480 is the best pure I don't even know if you 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.360 can call him a heel or a baby face now, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.240 just the best pro wrestler in the business, which is MJF. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:56.200 But I watched FTR and Swerving our glory and I'm 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.480 not the biggest tag team dude, but this was a 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.840 fun match, man like. I loved the way everyone bounced 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.959 off Keith Lee. I loved the work in this. I 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.920 miss Swerve in w W E. I wish he was 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.280 with hit Row. I think hit Row would be killing 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.520 it if he was still there. Swerve is no joke. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.000 He is awesome on the mic, he is awesome in 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.960 the ring. I was not familiar with his career before 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.439 he went to n X T w W E and 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.640 now A e W. I'm all in on this guy, man. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.600 I think Swerve is awesome. He's quickly becoming one of 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.280 my favorites in that whole division. If they break him 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.360 in Keith Lee up, I would watch him have a 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.600 solo career every single week, whether he was a heel 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.160 or a baby face. I just love this dude. Did 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.839 you see this match? I liked it. I didn't think 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.520 anything big or or bad about it. I feel like 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.960 you're you're putting it over pretty big. I thought it 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.840 was you know, it was fine, it was good. We'll 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.359 move on. Didn't impact you. We're gonna get to Maxwell. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:03.719 Jacob Friedman and Renee Paquette got to interview him, and 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.320 I loved her attitude. First of all, I love Renepo Catt. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.000 I think she's great. She hosted some she was a 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.720 panelist before she went to a W on the w 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.160 W rival show. That will be like the last episodes 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.000 that come out after the holidays. M JF talks so 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.120 much trash about her husband and you just see the 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.920 look of disgust on her face that she even has 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.720 to be there. Instead of being the professional journalist, she 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.320 allows some actual personality to come out. So this dude 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.079 walks out on stage takes the mic from her at 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.240 one point, And this is kind of what I want 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.880 to focus on today, and I want your opinion on it. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:49.920 I don't think baby faces and heels are necessary anymore. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.079 I just don't. I don't think unless you're unless you're 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.640 unable to communicate a character and you have to be 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.839 a signed Hey, you are a bad guy, you are 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.960 a good guy. I don't think the people care anymore 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:09.240 in the modern kind of hyper cynical world where everybody's 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:14.400 an insider, everybody thinks they know everything, everybody wants to 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:20.559 spoil everything, like this guy is neither hell nor face, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.360 and every like dirt sheet or or other podcast out 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.040 there keeps talking about you can't turn him, baby face, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.360 You can't turn he's been a baby face the last 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.280 two years, like and if you don't like him, then 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.559 he's been a hell and you're both right, like, he's 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:41.600 literally gone beyond you being able to categorize him in 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.880 any way, shape or form every single week that he 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.920 goes out there, and it doesn't matter. If he wants 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.280 you to boo and you're cheering, he will flip it 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:56.520 up on you in a New York minute and absolutely 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.800 cut your throat and make you feel like crap about 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:01.679 your your self. And if he wants you to feel 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.440 sorry for him and have empathy for him, he will 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.080 own you in two seconds and tell you a real 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.280 life story about how you know he made the high 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.960 school football team and they started throwing quarters at him 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.120 and saying pick it up, jew boy, pick it up, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.640 and you're literally like, holy ship, like this, this guy's 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.560 breaking my heart, man, And then two seconds later he'll 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.120 kick you right in the balls for feeling sorry for him. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.680 And I don't think you know, outside of like the 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.440 Kevin Owens and guys like that, nobody, nobody can touch him, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.800 and I just I know, I blow smoke at this 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.720 guy all the time, but I think he's completely obliterated 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.040 the heel baby face thing, and I don't think that 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.920 term should apply to him anymore. He's just something different. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.520 He's something completely different and unique. I hate the term 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.440 unicorn because he's so much cooler than a unicorn. Man. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.160 I agree with you one percent, and I've actually said 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.079 it for a long time. I think that as wrestling fans, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.200 we love our little wrestling argan. We we love we 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.120 love that we know what a heal in a baby 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.840 faces and other people might not, or we love saying 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.199 it's a work or putting someone over or pop. I 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:15.640 think that there isn't really a healer baby face storylines anymore, 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.480 really at all. I agree with you one thousand percent. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.120 Guys will be jerks and we love them. And you 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.600 know what I blame for it, Freddie who. I blame 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.800 the industry, not you, buddy, I blame the industry. I 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.760 blame comic books. Stop making these villains so cool. I 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.839 want to root for Darth Vader. I shouldn't want to 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.400 root for Darth Vader. I don't like these these stories 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.079 and the things they make the bad guys so awesome, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.760 are so funny. If we were really being um, you know, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.520 if we were, if we were being good to the world, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.520 we'd make bad guys not likable and we'd make the 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.080 hero likable. Instead, they make it the like Luke Coworker 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.520 seems like a little nerd, and then Darth Vader comes in. 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.920 He's all big black robot with the red light. You 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.040 I'm rooting for that guy. Your parents are like, I 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.600 don't know that's the bad guy, but I think wrestling 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.560 does it all the time. Heels are so fun. Now 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.440 you have this young generation of wrestlers that have come 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:13.720 up only seeing these hybrid characters exactly seeing every character 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.960 is Han Solo in the movie now. Now Han Solo 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.280 is no longer the supporting character. Son Solo is the 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.280 lead of the movie, of every of every movie now, 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.240 whether his names Mike, John, Lisa, Brianna, or Han Solo. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.840 So there is no more line. And I think we're 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.200 seeing that first generation of or at least a generation 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.640 that are capable enough to execute at that level, sort 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.360 of saying I don't I don't care about any of 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.040 these standards anymore. I'm doing my thing and if you 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.240 love me cool and if you don't cool, and maybe 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:46.920 a lot of that of social media too, because they 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.760 just have to deal with so much more criticism all 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.440 the time, twenty four hours a day, that they've just 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.320 developed these calluses that I don't think are ever gonna 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.160 go away. Well, I think wrestling fans, you know, it's 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.640 very inside baseball wresting fans. And guy saw a video 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.320 of like Jericho going MGF is eventually going to be 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.120 like Stone Cold of the Rock where he's not a 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:08.960 healer baby face, and I was even listening to that 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.360 thinking like, no, but they're not. Almost everybody isn't a 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.840 healer baby face. If you like to wrestling fans, the 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.360 respons might think they're they are, but like, that's all 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:35.960 inside baseball stuff. I like matches on a w I 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:42.160 watched Brian Danielson and Sammy Gavara wrestle, and Brian Danielson 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.200 did what he needed to do based on what's happened 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:51.440 to his character. I feel like most bands I would 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.880 agree with this that Brian Danielson has been under serviced 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.280 as far as character development and story goes. I feel 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.480 like he has been in under serviced in his matches. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.440 I feel like he's lost more matches than he's needed 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.520 to lose. I feel like his motivation for wrestling hasn't 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.880 been written as well as it could be written. And 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.600 he's had a couple of backstage moments now where he's 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.760 sort of arguing with the Blackpool Combat Club, which is 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:26.080 made up of him, Wheeler, Utah Moxley, the Werewolf, and 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.560 my favorite Mr William Regal. They've taken that story, and 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.040 I don't think this was intentional. I think it was like, hey, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.280 we've under serviced him, let's use it. And now it's 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.560 become a part of his backstage interviews where there is 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.320 a little bit of people questioning his his motivation and 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.640 not his toughness, so to speak, but just his reasoning 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.880 and rationale. And this son of a bitch has had enough. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.200 He got in a match with Sammy Guavara and beat 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:57.280 Sammy's ass, and Danielson wins and isn't having it, and 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.960 him and Wheeler fighting backstage, and and I like that 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.800 kind of conflict. I don't think it's gonna break that 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:09.160 group up, but that group needs to fight within itself. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.960 It needs to have that kind of conflict because all 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:16.040 three dudes are super tough guys. Man like, you've just 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.240 been looking good since they put him in there with 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.240 with him JF. He had that Philly thing where he's like, yo, 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.520 that you're in Philadelphia, we'll kick your ass after the 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.359 show too, and then jumped on m JF and knocked 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.560 him over a couch even though he lost the match. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.600 They've been making you to look good and violent. Did 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.240 you like this match? Do you like what they're what 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.600 they're doing with this or is this another cruise control? 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.359 I loved it. Yeah, I thought it was awesome. I 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.399 feel like these aren't the big giants that I like, 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.280 but I like what I like what they're doing with it. 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.639 Fair Enough? Am I am? I falling in love with 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:49.280 Jamie Hayter? I mean, who Isn't I think I am? Dude? 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.200 I really think I am. This girl. She's an English wrestler. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:59.400 She's she's built, thick, she's pretty, she wrestles tough, her 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:04.640 moves look hard, her clothes lines look super mean and 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.120 and rough. And she wrestled this this Japanese girl they 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.600 call Jo, who I'm not that familiar with. This girl 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.840 is small, she's a high flyer. The only way she 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.640 can really do damage is by taking big risks, kind 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.439 of like the old school Jeff Hardy philosophy, Like I 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.800 can't knock you out, but if I jump off the 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.520 top top turn buckle and do ten flips, I'll have 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.439 enough momentum to jack you up. But I'm starting to 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.120 love this girl. We have not mentioned Jade Carr Gill 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.040 since you and I probably did our first episode because 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.960 they have no storyline for her whatsoever. It's just kill 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.800 this girl, kill that girl, kill this girl. The storyline 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.920 they're doing now with the stolen belt, I don't care about. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:44.920 I love Jade, but they're not They're not taking care 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.240 of her storyline wise. I think Jamie Hayter needs to 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.720 be the one that actually can challenge Jade Carr Gill, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.000 but established Jamie and make her be the first one 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.959 to give Jade her first loss in in a aw 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.399 I'm legit starting to fall for this girl. Her promos 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.920 are they're not bad. She's not, you know, the best 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:08.200 on the mic, but she's communicating an effective message when 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.199 she gets pissed at her friends like she did Britt Baker. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.280 I'm buying it. I'm not gonna say I'm all in 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.960 on Jamie Hayter yet because I don't know if the 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.920 company is, but I am falling in love with this girl, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.240 and I think she's doing great stuff and I really 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.440 hope she's on the way to win in a championship. Man, 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.560 what about you. Here's the thing, Either do something with 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.480 Jade Cargill or or don't. I feel like everything they're 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.600 doing with her is I feel like they're just wasting 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.120 her away because she's awesome. She's she's got a great look, 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.800 she's great wrestling, she's you know, she's five ten, but 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.879 like she seems like a seven footer in there with 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.879 all these other girls. I love Jade Cargill, but if 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.720 you're not gonna she looks so superior to everyone in 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.399 the demos, and that's why they should use her. They 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.080 should make her, like, like really kill it with the 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.600 storylines with her, and I feel like everything falls flat. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.000 And I don't know if that's writing or if that's 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.160 her her not being able to pull off what they're 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:04.639 writing for her. I don't know what it is, but 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.760 either use Jade or or you know, or bring in 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.680 some young blood like Jamie Hayter another Jade Cargo thing. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.440 I love how mad wrestling fans get at this girl 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.760 listen on social media. Jade Cargill is living her gimmick 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.080 and she got in this like beef with bow Wow 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.280 right because I guess bow Wow thinks she's hot and 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.840 had a crush on her. The rapper producer producer, I 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.200 don't know. I haven't bought his music. In a world 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.600 where every wrestler breaks gimmick on social media and it's like, 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.800 thank you so much for liking my match, this girl 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.560 is living her I'm that bitch. I don't care what 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.440 you say. I'm better than everyone. Look at me and 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.200 look at you. I'm hotter than you. I'm in better 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:53.639 shape than you. That's good. You should. You should applaud 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:58.119 wrestlers that are willing to live their gimmick. My final 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:00.960 tweet I I quit Twitter, by the way, I blew 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.600 it up. Um. My final tweet was applaud wrestlers that 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.800 are willing to live their gimmick. There's only like three 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.240 of them left on the and the world celebrate that. 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:15.159 You guys, don't get in your feelings when your expectation 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.639 as a fan is not met by a wrestler doing 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:22.520 their job. Could you imagine if ten year old Freddie 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.600 Prince Jr. Ten year old Jeff Dy decided to pop 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.919 out there you know, time machine cell phones, and we 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:34.040 saw ted d Bazi tweeting about about his chy t. 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:36.359 He's gone on, I just found a great chy t 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.960 on my drive to Connecticut. I'd be like, what the 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:44.840 million dollar man is is posting photos of him and 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:48.040 his girlfriend? Like I would be furious, like handing out 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.800 soup at a local soup kitchen, Like what, you're the 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:55.040 million dollar man, dude, Yeah, I would. It's so it's 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:59.080 so silly. I'm interested in original thought. And I know 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.800 we live in a world now where we celebrate copying, right, 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.400 Like that's what TikTok is. You're taking dialogue from other 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:12.879 movies and lip syncing over the work of very creative people, 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.639 very effective artists, or your lip syncing to music and 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.879 lyrics that were written by talented musicians and writers and 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.280