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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number thirty four.

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Speaker 1: Today in the show, we're joined by my friend Tyler

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Speaker 1: Ryan now of Antler Geeks, and we're talking public land hunting.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. And

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier today in the show, Dan and

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Speaker 1: I are being joined by my good friend Tyler right now,

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Speaker 1: So welcome to the show. Tyler's it going, guys, good,

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Speaker 1: it's going It's going pretty well here in Michigan, Dan,

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Speaker 1: about you, it's going good in Iowa? Um, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: gotta right off the bat. Uh, Tyler, did you or

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Speaker 1: your buddies ever call you Rhino like in high school?

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Speaker 1: Or did they give you ever give you a nickname?

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Speaker 1: They didn't. There was a lot of plays on the

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Speaker 1: last name, but Rhino is is what I haven't heard. Actually, wow, Well,

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Speaker 1: when we become friends later on in life, UM, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call you Rhino. Alright, fair enough? So good? Alright, well,

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Speaker 1: alright continue Mark. I was great, Thank you, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for getting the important stuff out of the way game. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say it's nice to have a fellow Michigan

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Speaker 1: having to talk to Dan, who's spoiled out there in Iowa.

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Speaker 1: So Tyler, thanks for being my my Michigan company there. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, we've we We've got a lot to cover,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Sure. So you know, as I mentioned

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show, Tyler, you're a member

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Speaker 1: of the Antler Geeks team. Um. But to kick us

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Speaker 1: off here before we really dive into anything else, for

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Speaker 1: those that aren't familiar with Antler Geeks, can you give

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Speaker 1: us a quick rundown of what you guys are all about. Yeah? Sure, Um,

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Speaker 1: Tony Hanson and I started Antler Geeks uh four years ago,

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Speaker 1: and we had been filming, you know for a number

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Speaker 1: You know, there's we don't have anything against you know

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Speaker 1: Hunt with outfitters every week, but it's there was just

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Speaker 1: something missing you know in outdoor media, UM, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's public land, you know, stuff that guys can

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Speaker 1: really relate to. UM. And that's what we've taken and

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Speaker 1: ran with. And it's it wasn't like we changed what

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Speaker 1: we did. You know, we didn't. We didn't start hunting differently.

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Speaker 1: We've always hunted the public ground. We've always hunted small

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Speaker 1: pieces the private that we you know, we happen to

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Speaker 1: get permission on UM. You know, out of all the

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Speaker 1: pro staff guys, you know, hardly any of us own

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Speaker 1: any ground UM or lease any ground. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: really d I Y UM. You know, that's our focus.

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Speaker 1: We've got you know, daily content on you geeks dot com.

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Speaker 1: We do a web series on real tree dot com.

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Speaker 1: We have a digital publication that's also percent and voted

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Speaker 1: to d I Y white Tails UM. So that is

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Speaker 1: I Y white tail hunting, UM. You know how everybody

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Speaker 1: of it. It's a lot of fun. UM. It keeps

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of ups and downs, aren't there too many? Sometimes?

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Speaker 1: Well that's a that's a perfect segue for what I

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Speaker 1: is is you know, how has your season been going

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Speaker 1: so far? Tyler? I've I've watched some of the episodes

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Speaker 1: But for everyone out there, you know what you've been

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Speaker 1: And other than that, it's, uh, it's been kind of

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Speaker 1: like it. Well, a college student or you got a divorce,

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Speaker 1: little bit of an update. I got two bits of information.

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Speaker 1: I got some good news and I got some great news.

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Speaker 1: The good news is that, um, I think, as you

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be it's gonna be a boy. Yes, congratulations,

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Speaker 1: rewarding because it was another you know, yet another obstacle

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00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: you had to you know, I had to deal with

427
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: and overcome. So yes, so so, Tyre. I just watched

428
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: the most recent episode of antlerd Geeks in which you're

429
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: hunting this public lane in Iowa in this situation kind

430
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: of similar to what we're talking about a rose here.

431
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: You got up at this property and there was a

432
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: whole bunch of hunting pressure where you weren't expecting it. Um,

433
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: can you walk us through maybe that example of how

434
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: you know what happened and how you adjusted, because I

435
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: think that will be helpful for people to see you

436
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: an example of how you can adjust for that hunting

437
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: pressure on public land and still have success. Yeah. Absolutely, Um,

438
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: that piece of ground I'd hunted in the past, and

439
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: we've got, you know, one of those little spots that

440
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: we look for where nobody will really go. It's too

441
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: far from the parking areas, it's too far from the roads, um,

442
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: you know for most people to walk into. Um. And

443
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: there's a river on the other side of it. The

444
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: river has always been really high. So I went this

445
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: year with waiters and too inder feet, a rope and

446
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: rafts and whatever we needed. I had it to make

447
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: sure that we could get across that river because it's

448
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: it's actually a very easy access point if you willing

449
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: across the river. Um we got there and it was

450
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: you know, make calf high, and there was other guys

451
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: crossing it in rubber boots, and I had already had

452
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: a set hung there. We went out um early in

453
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: the season and you know, and got our stand hung,

454
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: and I mean that that was the spot I was.

455
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: I was pretty much all in. That was that was

456
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: the tree. You know, I've been looking looking forward to

457
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: going back to that exact tree, you know since last time.

458
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: I drew an eye with Tag and we showed up

459
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: and down there was just you know, it was lined

460
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: with trucks and there was all kinds of guys in there.

461
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: Um actually went into justice set. We had another guy

462
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: walking down. You know, they're walking down the deer trails

463
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: and it's just you feel like pumming your head against

464
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: the tree. But what can you do? So we backed

465
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: out and started kind of looking at the deer sign.

466
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: There was standing corn on the neighboring property and the

467
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: deer were using that a lot coming to and from

468
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: and the deer trails at all kind of diminished the

469
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: deer sign right there where all those guys were coming in.

470
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: So I slid down the river and the pretty much

471
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: found where the deer had adjusted to, you know, to

472
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 1: the hunting pressure. Um. Those gear had really never been

473
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: hunted like that since I've been going there, um, you know,

474
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: and as I've been hunt that place for seven years

475
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: ago was the first time I'd hunted it, and so

476
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: you know, they adjusted and I just I had to

477
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: adjust with them and slid down the river and you know,

478
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: kind of did some spur the moment scouting and you

479
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: know we got to stand up in our first full

480
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: morning in there. Uh, I killed him. So so it's

481
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: just uh just you know, I guess, not getting overly

482
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: frustrated where you completely pull out. I knew it was

483
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: I knew it was a good spot and there's there's

484
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: always a lot of good deer in there. Um, you know,

485
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: just take a step back and kind of figure out

486
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: what the deer. You know, what the deer have done.

487
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: They had obviously responded to the pressure and we just

488
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: had to figure them out. So I guess, so that instance,

489
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: we we did use an observation stand um for actual

490
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: first step set up and you know, kind of looked

491
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: into where I thought most of the deer. It kind

492
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: of moved there the river crossing too, and you know,

493
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of deer ways off that morning

494
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: and then we went in and hung the step from

495
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: there and it ended well. So yeah, So is that

496
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: observation stand um tactic something you employ often on these

497
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: public land spots when you're still trying to learn a

498
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: new area, or is that something that just in this

499
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: case seems like a good idea. It's something we at

500
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: least that I use a lot um and as I

501
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: actually use them as much to see where other hunters

502
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: are are accessing as much as I do to see where,

503
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: you know, how the deer using the ground. Um. You

504
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: know a lot of times you'll see four or five

505
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: trucks at the parking area and there's a you know,

506
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: maybe one trail that leads off from it. And now

507
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: I'll set up where I can see a lot and

508
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: see where those guys are going, maybe to give me

509
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: an idea where the hunting pressure is, and then I'll

510
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: use that, you know, to adjust um. So it's you know,

511
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: that's another big piece of what I guess is you know,

512
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: is figuring out where the hunting pressure is and scouting

513
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: other hunters as much as you know you scout the

514
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: ex will deer. So yeah, definitely no. Stay on the

515
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: topic of stands. Um, you mentioned in this this year

516
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: in Iowa you had gone and set a stand and

517
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: left that there until you came back later. Um. Are

518
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: you you know, depending on where you're going and you

519
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: know where you can where you can't. Are you typically

520
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: trying to go into these public spots and hang stands

521
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: early on or at least prep trees beforehand, or are

522
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: you typically going in with just some portable stands or

523
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: climbers and just you know, going in there and running

524
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: and gunning as the trip progresses yet more or less

525
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: we just we hang a when we get there. Um.

526
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: That was just kind of a rare instance, honestly. UM.

527
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: I happen to know that you know that piece of

528
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: ground well enough in Iowa, and then I hunted that

529
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: area enough that I knew the tree that I wanted

530
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: to be in. Um, so we went in. You know,

531
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: we went out there this summer and did a little

532
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: scouting and and uh and got that hung right. It

533
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: was actually the first weekend you could legally hang a

534
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: hank stand out there. Um went out and got it done.

535
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: So it really gave me something to look forward to

536
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: at least, but never actually sat in the tree. So yeah,

537
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: like I imagined, that was pretty frustrating. It was, But

538
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: like I said, it's just you gotta you gotta learn

539
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: to shake it off. And I think you know that's

540
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people have a hard time with that.

541
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: You know, guys that do hunt public land, you know that.

542
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, you get frustrated, and it's it is frustrating.

543
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: There's no there's no two ways around it. It's hunting

544
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: hunting public ground. Is It's a frustrating deal. Um, you

545
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: just learned to deal with it, I guess. And the

546
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: more you do it, the thicker your skin gets. So yeah,

547
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: So are you bouncing around a lot when you're on

548
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: these on these trips or um? Or in what kind

549
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: of tree stands are you using that allow you to

550
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: move freely? Um? Like? As as far as bouncing around, um,

551
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: usually like a first trip somewhere, UM, if it's piece

552
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: of ground we've never hunted before, I'll cover a lot

553
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: of ground. Um. You know, I don't get too hung

554
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: up on one stand location. I try to try to

555
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: cover as much as the area. You know that I've

556
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: you know that I think is is worth hunting, um

557
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: as I can to get an idea you know what

558
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: it's like how the deer use it. Um. You know,

559
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: maybe I was off on you know what winds right

560
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: and so a lot of times those first trips are

561
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: are unsuccessful. UM, but you you know you learned so

562
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: much from them that you know it's it's all valuable. UM.

563
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, the first trips, most of the time we

564
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: do cover a lot of ground and then return trips.

565
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of hone in on on the

566
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: better locations. UM. As far as tree stands go. UM.

567
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Individual sections of climbing six um, you know the little

568
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: three foot sections and uh and hang on stands are

569
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: are pretty much all all of us use. UM. Climbers

570
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: are a little cumbersome, UM with camera dear and ladder

571
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: stands are two to carry. UM a lot of the

572
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: places that we go. So yeah, have you ever had

573
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: your stands stolen? I have more than once. But it's uh,

574
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: it's not fun, uh, which you know I try to

575
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: use the the cheapest bands we can. You know, it'd

576
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: be nice to have a bunch of really really nice

577
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: stands and be super comfortable the whole time. But um,

578
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, they're just the same as the trail cameras. Um,

579
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: it's it's bound to happen if you do it enough.

580
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I could say, I guess tree stands

581
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: or it seems to not not to get a stolen

582
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: as often as trail cameras. Trail cameras seemed to walk

583
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: away an awful lot. Um. But but it does happen

584
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: with three stands too. Yeah, you know, I don't know

585
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: if I've dan, if I've told the store before stop me.

586
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: But speaking of just trail cameras getting stolen, um, I

587
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: had hung a trail camera. This actually wasn't on public land.

588
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: This is on private land. Um. But what I had

589
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: done is I carved my name and phone number into

590
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: the back of the trail camera and hung the trail camera.

591
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: And I don't know, a week or two later, I

592
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: went back to check for it and it was gone.

593
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: I assumed at that point I didn't have any idea

594
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: of who might be trespassing in the area or what

595
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: might have been going on. I think I talked to

596
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: the landowner about it. And didn't know anything or didn't

597
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: know it, hadn't seen anyone, so I kind of figured

598
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: that camera's gone. Well fast forward like two months or

599
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: three months, I get a phone call from Cabella's and

600
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: they asked me, that is your name Mark Kenyon Like, well, yeah,

601
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: it is um and he said, well, we have your

602
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: trail camera. Unbelievably, whoever stole my camera brought into Cabella's

603
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: and returned it got money for it, and Cabela's never

604
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: realized that it was used and had my name and

605
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: stuff on the back of it until you know, a

606
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: week later and they were like repackaging it, I guess,

607
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: and then they saw that. So how crazy is that?

608
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: I got my camera back? And uh, it was nuts

609
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: that That is a wild story. I had a I

610
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: had a situation, uh where I went back and I

611
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: had three trail cameras on one forty acre piece stolen,

612
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: and I was furious. I called the sheriff. I called

613
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: the newspaper. I'm not joking. I went onto every face,

614
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: every Facebook page in that area. Is that I'm missing,

615
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: you know, stolen car, stolen trail camera. The sheriff came out,

616
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: he walked the areas with me, I pointed out where

617
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: they were. Um, I went to every house on that

618
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: road and up and down you know in that area,

619
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, asking hey, has anybody been on this and

620
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: got to the right people. Well I came back two

621
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: weeks later with with another trail camera in a cable

622
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: this time that I was gonna put on, and all

623
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: three trail cameras were bad at the bottom of the tree.

624
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: So either they found out hey, I know this guy,

625
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to steal the stuff, or a man

626
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: they this guy is looking. You know, this guy is

627
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: looking for us, and there's a chance we get busted.

628
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: I better put all this stuff back so it stops.

629
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: So luckily I got it back. I did get a

630
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: picture of the guy's ball cap in the top of

631
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: this truck, so because he was looking at the trail

632
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: camera when he opened it up, but I didn't see

633
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: his face. So it hasn't happened since knock on wood.

634
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: That shows you the power of actually enforcing you know

635
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: your you know, whether it be your property borders or

636
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: in this case, you know, the your physical property, you know,

637
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: showing people that you're actually gonna do something about it.

638
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: We'll we'll let sometimes payoffs that's it's a good story.

639
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: It's a parable of swords stand. Thank you, You're welcome.

640
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: So this is kind of just popped in my head,

641
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: and I've kind of talked about this to some people. Um,

642
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler, would you say that you get more

643
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: satisfaction or excitement or enjoyment out of killing one of

644
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: these public lander Let's say you kill a hundred and

645
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: twenty five inch buck on public land in Iowa, and

646
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: then you kill a hundred buck on private land somewhere

647
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: in i r Kansas or something. Would you value that

648
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: public land buck or or enjoy that experience more because

649
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: it was on public It's for the most part, yes,

650
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean there there is there's something special about it.

651
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: You know. It's not you know, it's not that the

652
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: deer is any really any harder to kill, you know,

653
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: once you're in the tree and you've done the homework,

654
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, because he's for the most part, you know,

655
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: the places we hunt, he's in a he's in a pocket.

656
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: That's that's not going to get the hunting pressure, like

657
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of the he's more easily

658
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: accessible public ground is um. But but but yeah, I mean

659
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: they are more rewarding just because you know the amount

660
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: of effort and you know work that goes into it. Um,

661
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: you know it, it does make it a little bit

662
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: more special. So okay, yeah, I mean I could kind

663
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: of I can imagine that I I have I mean,

664
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: think about this. I don't think I've killed a I've

665
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: killed a buck on the border of public land, so

666
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: you could it came off a public land and I

667
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: shot at like two ft over the border on a

668
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: private So I might say I sort of killed a

669
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: buck on public land. But I don't know if I've

670
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: fully experienced you know, heavily pressured public I've hunted plenty

671
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: of it, but I haven't had that much success on

672
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: it yet. So UM that I can imagine how you would, um,

673
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: you know how that would mean something more in a

674
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: different kind of way because of that challenge. So that's awesome, now,

675
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, when you're you mentioned the fact that you

676
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: are looking for these areas where you can get away

677
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: from the pressure, right, And I think that's you know,

678
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: one of the go to kind of basic frameworks frameworks

679
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: for having success in public land is is get away

680
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: from the pressure. Um. And you mentioned an example of

681
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, finding a river or something that might block

682
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: other people from getting to a section. Um, are there

683
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: any other examples or you know, can you elaborate on

684
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: some more potential hot spots like that that someone might

685
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: be able to look for? Is there anything else that

686
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: someone can kind of clue into when they're looking at

687
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: maps or when they're looking at proper that might be

688
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: the type of place that could keep out other hunting pressure,

689
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: could be one of these little secret um you know,

690
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: honey hooles, I mean more than anything distance. Um. You know,

691
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: for the most part, people are lazy. Um. They don't

692
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: want to walk that far, especially carrying a tree stand. Um.

693
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: So it's just it's that extra you know, half mile,

694
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: that extra three colters of a mile um. And I

695
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: mean some places I've gone as far as printing a

696
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: map out and measuring out you know how far three

697
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: cutters a mile is and using a compass, and you know,

698
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: actually making a circle around each public or each parking area,

699
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: every access point so you can see that's okay, that's

700
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: where people are willing to walk to. And then you

701
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: have the other areas and that's where you start to focus.

702
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: And like I said, just you know, just getting away

703
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: from them. UM. You know all those different things you

704
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: can use, um that you need to look at, you know,

705
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: the trail systems, the the parking area is anything like that. Um.

706
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's all of super valuable stuff. UM.

707
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: And you know another tactical we've used, you know a

708
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: few times in the past is lakes and you know,

709
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: any big rivers actually putting a boat in um to

710
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: access some of these places. And it's a lot of

711
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of extra work, you know, haul

712
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: on a boat loaded up, be going for an hour

713
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: boat ride, um, and then hiking in from there. UM.

714
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: But it's something people don't think about. And there was

715
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: one day we and Tony were in Ohio two or

716
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: three years ago, launching a boat at you know, four

717
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: in the morning, and there were some guys getting ready

718
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: to go duck cutting there and they, you know, the

719
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: look on their face was was just priceless. You know,

720
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: two guys with tree stands and camo and bows getting

721
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: in a boat and you know, they had no they

722
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: just couldn't fathom what we could possibly have been doing. Um,

723
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, and we we went in. It was about

724
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: a forty five minute boat ride and access to you know,

725
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: through a reservoir, and you know, we essentially had private

726
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: land hunt. Um. A lot of those places that are

727
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: you know that are reservoirs. You know, they may be

728
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, federally owned state on whatever they are. Um,

729
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of it that is physically inaccessible. You

730
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: can't walk to it. You know, there's places that are

731
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: totally landlocked by private and the only way to get

732
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: to them from the public is on the water. Um.

733
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: You know, so that's another thing people can look at

734
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: if you have you know, places like that where you

735
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: live or you know, where you hunt. Um, it's honestly

736
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: the best way to really guarantee you're going to be

737
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: left alone. Um. The only other guy that may hunt

738
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: it is you know, people that have access to that

739
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: private ground that borders it. You know, obviously they can

740
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: come onto the public. Um, but from a public hunting standpoint,

741
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: you know that that boat is going to be the

742
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: only access. So it's a it's a really good tactic

743
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: and whenever we can, you know, we use it. And

744
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: those places are a lot of times overlooked too. You

745
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: know they may be when you look at those uh,

746
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, the pages from the state that outline what

747
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: the what the public land area is good for. You know,

748
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: it may be a four thousand acres you know, peace

749
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: and three carters of maybe water, and you know they'll

750
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: put on there. It's it's ideal for bath fishing and

751
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: for duck hunting. And you know, there's not a doesn't

752
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: say anything about deer hunting on it, um because there's

753
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: no where you can really walk to to hunt, so

754
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: they often get overlooked and and really don't get deer

755
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: hunted at all. Um. It's they're they're kind of rare,

756
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: but when you find one, they're they're definitely worth looking at.

757
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: So Yeah, that's an awesome point. Something I've looked for

758
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: a lot too in some of the different places where

759
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: I've tried out public or have been scouting out public

760
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: is anytime I can find with the spots that you

761
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: can access by the water. Like you said, it just

762
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: seems like an absolute money way to get into those

763
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: hard to reach places. Yeah. From a from a strategy

764
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: or or tactic standpoint, do you address public different than

765
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: private or vice versa? Um, I mean, I mean as

766
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: far as hunting in the tree, you know, I mean

767
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: it's all once you're in, you're in and it's all

768
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's all kind of the same, so you know,

769
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: all kind of the same deal. Um, it's really it's

770
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: just all the scouting is what you know. It's what's

771
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: so much different. Um, just a place. It just it's

772
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: all just getting away from, you know, from the other hunters.

773
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: And there's times when you know, maybe you'll be a

774
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: little bit more leary, you know, on the calls or something,

775
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: because those those deer, maybe you hurt him a little

776
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: bit more. Um, you know, the the same thing if he's

777
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: in the scent and decoys and stuff like that. Um,

778
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: for the most part, you know, once once you're in

779
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: and you feel like you're in one of those little

780
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: those little pockets, Um, I'm gonna hunt it just the

781
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: same as you would anywhere. So you would still while

782
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: you might tone them back a little bit, you'd still

783
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: call reddle try decoy things like that, right, And I

784
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: do you know I do that a lot anyway. I'm

785
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: probably a little bit more I guess you'd say aggressive

786
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: than maybe the average guy. Um. I like using decoys,

787
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: I like calling, I like using sense. Um, so you

788
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: know I'd probably still do it more than you know,

789
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: than the average guy. At that time in public home. Um.

790
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: You know that that bucket shot this year in Iowa. Um,

791
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, had sent out and uh you know, had

792
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: the decoys out, and that's that's what I got him killed.

793
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: So he was actually parallel want um fall on the

794
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: edge of the river and he saw those decoys and

795
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: on a string he came. So can you tell us

796
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: a little bit about that decoyset up too, because I

797
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: was kind of unique. Yeah, it was. It was not

798
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: a not a not a standard set up by any means. Um.

799
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: Where the base the tree was, where the set was at.

800
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: We were actually inna wash out, um, and about five

801
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: eight yards from the base of the tree, there was

802
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: a steep little incline that went up maybe fifteen ft

803
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, kind of on the on the flat and

804
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: went across for four or five yards, you know, just

805
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: real flat, grassy stuff. And I had the decoys down

806
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: in the you know what what a traditional I guess

807
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: decoy set up would be. With the wind and whatnot.

808
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: Um down in that washout. The deer could see him

809
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: from the from the river, but they couldn't see him

810
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: from the other side of me where all this open

811
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: grass and brush was at and that. Honestly, where we'd

812
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: see most of the deer was out in that that

813
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: brush and tall grass, and the day before we when

814
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: we were in there, the deer just couldn't see those

815
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: decoys down in that washout. So I actually put a

816
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: buck decoy and a doge decoy five yards from the

817
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: base of the tree in the wrong direction for the wind,

818
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: right on the lip of that where it got higher,

819
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: just so those deer out in that grassy stuff could

820
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: see him. Um. So, um, it was there was a

821
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: bit of a gamble, and that buck came in from

822
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: the river and saw him, and he came right to us. Um.

823
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: You know, so it worked, but it definitely was a

824
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a gamble. Um, but it was it

825
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: was tough finding trees down in there. Um, so we

826
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: were kind of we knew that's where we need to be,

827
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: but it definitely wasn't an ideal place to use a decoy.

828
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: But you know, November nine, I like using them, so yeah, yeah,

829
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. In the video, you could see

830
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: that buck cruising and then as soon as he saw

831
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: those decoys, you can see him his lock on his

832
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: demeanor changed came, you know, right in there. So that's

833
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: pretty neat to to see that reaction. Um. You know

834
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: another thing related to that decoy, Tyler is um, Yeah,

835
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: I've been using decoys UM a little more of the

836
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: past two years than before, and I think anyone that's

837
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: used a traditional decoy can relate to just the how

838
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: cumbersome they can be and loud and bulky. You know,

839
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: walking in with one of these big plastic hollow decoys

840
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: that makes a whole bunch of noise and gosh, I'm

841
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: just about shot my thing up with a shotgun because

842
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: I've been so frustrated with how loud and all that stuff. UM. Now,

843
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: for you hunting these public land spots that are hard

844
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: to get to, using that kind of decoy seems you know,

845
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: tough to do. And you're you're not using that kind

846
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: of decoy. I think you're using one of the silhouette

847
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: type decoys. Can you tell us about that kind of

848
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: decoy and how you've seen that work and if that's

849
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: something that maybe other people might want to look into

850
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: for for public land or or long hikes and stuff. Yeah.

851
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: We yeah, we use we use the two dimensional um

852
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: decloys from Montana Decoy and they are you know, they're

853
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: for what we do. They're the only decoy that's gonna work. Um.

854
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: I've tried to use you know, full sized traditional decoys

855
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: in the past and it's just not you know, it's

856
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: really not possible a lot of times. And when you

857
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: do take them along, it's such a chore, you know,

858
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: between you know, tree stands and camera gear and whatnot,

859
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, trying to haul decoys along with it. You

860
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: almost needed you know, another person to to come along

861
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: with you, just to help you carry everything. Um. So

862
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: they just you know, they won't work a lot of times,

863
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: and you know, you can kick yourself, you know I

864
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: have in the past before we started using the you know,

865
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: the two dimensional decoys where you wish you had one,

866
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: but you didn't have room to carry it, or it

867
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: was just a little bit too big and too bulky,

868
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you make the the lazy decision

869
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: to leave it at the truck. Um. Or the two

870
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: dimensional decoys you can fold them right up, you know,

871
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: and stick them in your pack and they don't take

872
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: up any space, they don't weigh anything. Um. So you

873
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: know they're they're great from that, you know that aspect.

874
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: I know, people get worried with him. You know, there's

875
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: that blind spot when the deer is right in line

876
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: with them where they they can't see them. Um. A

877
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: lot of times, I'll you know, really almost all the time,

878
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: I'll use two decoys. Um, use a buck in a

879
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: dough or you know, it's just a you know, maybe

880
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: a mature buck and then a younger buck you know,

881
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: off to the side. Um, and I'll I offset him

882
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: on on different angles. So really, no matter where a

883
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: deer may approach from, he's gonna be able to lock

884
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: onto one of those decoys. So, Okay, that's good to know.

885
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: That's definitely something I think I want to try because

886
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm just getting frustrated in these places I try to access,

887
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: you just can't, like you said, you can't get in

888
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: there with a traditional decoy. So the those two dimensionals

889
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: offer some really interesting options for that kind of hunt

890
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: for sure. So we're getting here pretty close on time

891
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: to either. But I'm wondering if you can mind the

892
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: archives of your past hunts and maybe share with us

893
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: one public land hunting story that maybe it was an

894
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: experience that you know, really helps you learn important lesson

895
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: about public land hunting, or was your most memorable public hunt.

896
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: Is there anything that comes to mind? Um, you know

897
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: along those lines. Oh, there's there's a million stories I

898
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: could tell, that's for sure. It seems like there's always,

899
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, something interesting that happens. Um the at the

900
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, the hunt on public ground itself, or you know,

901
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: or just the out of state trip. Um. You know,

902
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: there's there's always so many fun funny stories to go

903
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: along with them. UM, I don't know. I guess as

904
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: far as the most memorable, probably the first year, um

905
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: that Adam Alard and I went to Kansas would have

906
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: been four years ago, I believe. Um, we killed bucks

907
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: out of the same tree stand two nights apart, and

908
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: that was that was a pretty cool one. So it

909
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: was Adam's first ever out of state's hunt, Um, his

910
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: his first ever time in Kansas, had been there the

911
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: year prior. UM, it was. That was pretty neat. It

912
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: was pretty special. So I bet and uh, if you

913
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: were able to put that yahoo in a big bucke,

914
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: I'd say you're doing something right. Yeah, anybody that knows

915
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: that him alive. So he is one of a guy

916
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: and he is, Uh, he's a good dude to hunt.

917
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: Was for sure, that's awesome. So really quick, what was

918
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: the what was that set up? Where's you guys find

919
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: that worked for you guys out there? That was a

920
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: that was an early season hunt. That was that was September.

921
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: It was there. Kansas has an early muzzleloader season opens

922
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: at the same time the erectru season opens, and Adam

923
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: had a muzzle loader tag and I had a boat tag.

924
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: And out there in Kansas where we go, it's it's

925
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: wide open. Um. The only places trees in the in

926
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: the creek bottoms, and the key to the whole thing

927
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: is just finding food out there. Um, it's it's pretty spars,

928
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: but when you find it, you'll normally find the deer

929
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: um and then you got to find the find the

930
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: place it's got food and a place that somebody else

931
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: doesn't hunting. Um. Yeah, it was just it was just

932
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: a classic kind of early season set up. Lfe off

933
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: the field and right on the creek bottom and Adams

934
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: had his buck with the muzzleloader and then uh, two

935
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: nights later, I said, a real nice ten point, so

936
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: come right up out of the creek. So it was

937
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: that was a fun one for sure. So yeah, that

938
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: sounds like it. It was a made for some cool

939
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: video too. I saw some of that, so that's awesome. Um, Dan,

940
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: before we close things up, is there anything else you

941
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: want to grill Tyler about or should we wrap this

942
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: show up? No, man, unless he wants to tell me

943
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: where he's exactly where he's hunting in Iowa, I can't

944
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: do that. I've worked too hard on that place. So

945
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 1: I try to keep her quiet. I can understand that.

946
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: So you said you got one more hunt, uh in Indiana.

947
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna be uh trying to get it done in Yeah, yeah,

948
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: one more hunt. Um it will be with a with

949
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: a months loader um in in Indiana, and that will

950
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: be uh the the middle of the months, and and

951
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: place we've never hunted, so it's, uh, it'll be an

952
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: adventure and uh you know it's those places said earlier,

953
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: those first year you know, first year trips, um, you know,

954
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: to new places. UM. It's it's just the really the

955
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: intel that you learn, UM. You know, that's that's so valuable. UM.

956
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: And I get it a lot of people asking about,

957
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, hunting out of state, hunting public ground, and

958
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: I tell people, for the most part, don't expect to

959
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: shoot a deer for the first two trips. You know,

960
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: if you do, you get lucky. So because it's you know,

961
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: unless you have a month like my one special instance

962
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: where you really get to learn a place. Um, you know,

963
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: it takes you a couple of times when you're only

964
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: there for you know, five days, ten days, maybe, you know,

965
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: it takes you a long time to you know, figure

966
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: it out, and a couple of years of you know,

967
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: of good intel from the tree and learning what the

968
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: deer do and how they use that particular piece of

969
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: ground and what the other hunters are doing. So, um,

970
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: we don't kill the third year, then you start getting

971
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: a little disappointed and you know, and looking for someone

972
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: else to go maybe, but yeah, that that first year

973
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: hunt is always always just a learning lesson more than anything.

974
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: So we're hoping to hoping it will be a good one.

975
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Maye we'll get lucky and shoot a buck and I'm

976
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be a place that we'll we'll be

977
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: back to, you know next year and years after. So well,

978
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: good luck and yeah, we wish you luck and I'll

979
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: be with the rest of your seasons. Thank you, Thank you, Tyler,

980
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: and real quick for we let you go. If people

981
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: want to see more from the Antler Geeks or see

982
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: your you know, your your iPad magazine all kinds off.

983
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: Where can people go to see the Antler Geeks stuff? Um,

984
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: check us out Facebook, Um, really everything's there. Um just

985
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: search Antley Geeks. Um. Like I said, we've got the

986
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: web show on real tree dot com and I always

987
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: got a lot going on our YouTube channel. Um. And

988
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: then the publication is, uh, it's for iOS formats and

989
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: you can just search Hanley Geeks in the news stand

990
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: and um it's pretty cool, um, really interactive. And I said,

991
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: it's all it's all focused on dy White tales. So absolutely,

992
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: well yeah, I, um, I would agree with you, Tyler.

993
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: You've got some really cool stuff going on. So I

994
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: definitely would encourage all of our listeners to check out

995
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: Antler Geeks. And Tyler, thank you so much for joining us.

996
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: This has been a good chat as always. Yeah, thank

997
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: you guys. All right, have a good one, Tyler. Yeah,

998
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you back. All right. Well, I think

999
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us here today on the

1000
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast. But before we go, Dan, I

1001
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: believe you have a little announcement you wanted to share

1002
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: with our listeners. Is that right, that's right, all right.

1003
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: So you know, me and Mark have been pretty big

1004
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: believers in osonics, and I actually talked with a guy

1005
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: from osonics and he sent me a couple units. Well

1006
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't there's no need for me to have two

1007
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: of them. So what we're gonna do here is we're

1008
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna do a little osonics giveaway. So if you're listening

1009
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: to this podcast, and I know Mark is gonna have

1010
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: a link on the show notes and he's gonna make

1011
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: a post on his Facebook page, um where where what

1012
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: you need to do is you need to go to

1013
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: the Nine Finger Chronicles. You need to like the page altogether,

1014
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: you need to like the post, the osonics giveaway post,

1015
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: and then what I'll do is I'll cross reference to

1016
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: those names to make sure that you're not only um

1017
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: following and liking Wired to Hunt, but you're also following

1018
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: and liking the Nine Finger Chronicles, and there will be

1019
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: uh instructions on there as well. What you need to do.

1020
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: But what we're gonna do is we're gonna give away

1021
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: in ozonics and we're gonna announce that name on next

1022
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: week's podcast. Um and there's oh, there's a couple other

1023
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: little accessories that go along with it that they sent me.

1024
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: And and this is like a four to five giveaway,

1025
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: So if you haven't used in ozonics before, you need

1026
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: to sign up for this and potentially win it. Then

1027
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: you can use it, and then you can tell us

1028
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: how well they work next to your hunting season or

1029
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: even later this dear season, depending on what state hunting. Um.

1030
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: And then I think a couple the next week after that,

1031
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a giveaway for um some products from

1032
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: stick and pick a company, and I know the owner

1033
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: of that very well, and he's all for given away

1034
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: free product. And I think Mark, you're gonna have some

1035
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: some free products from some of your sponsorship from Wire

1036
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: to Hunt, and uh it's just a good way to

1037
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: get some free gear. So UM, if you're a part

1038
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: of that giveaway, it's gonna be not only you know,

1039
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: get some exposure to myself and Mark and whatnot, but um,

1040
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: we're going to give away some some gear that you know,

1041
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: especially nozonics. Man, they're not they're not necessarily cheat, but

1042
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: we we know they work, So uh, sign up for it,

1043
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: like it, uh, and uh we'll have more details on

1044
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: the show notes and uh on the Facebook page as well.

1045
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think it's uh, it's a cool

1046
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: way that that we can give back to all of

1047
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: your listeners as a little Christmas thank you present for

1048
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: making this such an awesome first year for the wire

1049
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: Hume podcast. And so, um, like Dan said, he's gonna

1050
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: have a few more things coming in the next week

1051
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: or so. I'm also going to be giving away some

1052
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: free gear in the following weeks and we're just gonna

1053
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: keep the free stuff following up until Christmas. And so

1054
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: for those of you listening in the future, um we are.

1055
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: This podcast is going live on December four, two thousand fourteen.

1056
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: So if you're listening this week of December four through

1057
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: the next seven days, like you said, go to either

1058
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: Wired Hunting dot Com slash episode thirty four, where there

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Speaker 1: will be a link and instructions on this that will

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Speaker 1: take you back to Dan's Facebook page, which is the

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Speaker 1: nine Finger Chronicle. So go there, you'll get all the

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Speaker 1: details you need, and um, one of you will get

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Speaker 1: anose onyx And like Dan said, you can try it

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Speaker 1: out and either you're gonna see that it works like

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Speaker 1: we've been saying it does, or you're gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: email us and say we're idiots. But either way, give

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Speaker 1: it a shot. Hope you enjoy it, and um, thank

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Speaker 1: you Dan for for donating that to one of our listeners. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no problem, I just it's one of those things, man,

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Speaker 1: It's one of those products that you know, we're not

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Speaker 1: the type of people who brag about you know, we're

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Speaker 1: not product driven. We're gonna tell you how we really

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Speaker 1: feel about something. And uh, these guys sent me some

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Speaker 1: free stuff, so I don't have any need for two

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Speaker 1: of them, so I figure I'm gonna give give one away.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty awesome. Well I think that will

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Speaker 1: do it for us. So Dan, for today, we've been

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Speaker 1: We've been John for a pretty good amount here. So,

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Speaker 1: as I always like to say, with that said, has

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Speaker 1: always for all of you listening, if you've enjoyed this show,

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Speaker 1: we really do appreciate you taking time to leave a

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Speaker 1: rating or of you on iTunes. I've been saying this

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Speaker 1: every week for you know, the past six months, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of you have been taking me up on

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Speaker 1: it and leaving reviews. I've gotten a hundred and seventeen

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Speaker 1: ratings reviews so far, which is incredible, So thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. We really appreciate it and it just makes

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Speaker 1: such a big difference, So I can't tell you how

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Speaker 1: much I appreciate it. I also just want to say

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Speaker 1: thank you to all of you that send emails and

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Speaker 1: Facebook messages and um notes on Twitter and everything. Yeah,

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00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: it means the world, and it's so great to hear

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Speaker 1: that you know this show is resonating with you and

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Speaker 1: that you're enjoying it and that's helping you. UM it

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00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: makes all the time and effort that we put into

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Speaker 1: it so worthwhile. So thank you, and I'm just thrilled

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Speaker 1: to hear that. UM. As I mentioned earlier, be sure

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Speaker 1: to visit wire to Hunt dot com slash episode thirty

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Speaker 1: four for all the information being Dan just talked about

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Speaker 1: with the giveaway, as well as links back to all

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Speaker 1: the Antler gig content that Tyler talked about and anything

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Speaker 1: else that we might have mentioned, so be sure check

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Speaker 1: that out. And finally, we'd like to thank our partners

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Speaker 1: who helped make this show possible so big thanks to

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Speaker 1: Sick of Gear, Trophy, Ridge Bear Archery, Redneck Blinds, Carbon Express, Arrows, Hunts,

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Speaker 1: Soft Lacrosse, Boots, Big and J long Range Attractants, and

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Speaker 1: the White Tail Institute of North America. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much to all of you for joining us here today.

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Speaker 1: Good luck in the weeks to come, keep hunting hard,

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Speaker 1: regardless of how cold it is, and stay wired to

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Speaker 1: hunt