1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Terry Francona is here, manager of the Reds, a legend 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: in our sports. I've been told we have like sevenish minutes. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: I am by that, right, Let's not forget playoff Reds. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Playoff Reds. That's right, first season at the Helm playoff team. Okay, well, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit him with the hard question right away, 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: like what's your pitch to a free agent like Kyles 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Forber about why. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: They should join your little set of really talented players. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 4: You know what, I I don't want to talk about 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 4: any player specifically, because I don't think that's respectful. I 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: tell anybody that wants to listen, though, the truth. I 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: love our guys. You know, people talk about leadership and 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: all this stuff. The guys in that room know the 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 4: difference between right and wrong, and they choose to try 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 4: to do right. 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: I mean, AJ knows this. 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: You know, every manager stands up there the first day 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: and says, hey, we can't be late. We're gonna hustle. 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 4: Our guys were never late, never. I appreciate that. You know, 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: was is it perfect? 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: Some days? 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 4: No, It's never gonna be. But it's a group that 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: I love trying to see how good we can get. 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: And there were some guys late in prior tenures with 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: other teams. 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Did some Reds games. I did some Reds games down 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: the stretch, and he said the same thing to me. 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: He's like, these guys get it. Yeah, they work, they do. 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: They really do. 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 4: Like you ask them to do something, they look at 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 4: you and they try, and their competitive as hell. And 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: I think because of our age, you know, I think 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 4: I hope our trajectory is still going this way because 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: you know, our goal isn't to win eighty three games 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: kind of sneak into the playoffs. You know, we want 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: to be better than that. But our guys got to 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: feel getting downs to a champagne and then three days 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: later they got to feel how much it hurts when 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: you get sent home early. And I told them to 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: remember both feelings. 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Hey, for a free agent that might ask this question, 42 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: Amcrats is not on with us the second. But he's 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: got this conspiracy theory that the ballpark there actually is 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: playing like a little more a little less great American 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: small park. 46 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: Do you think that's the case or is the pitching 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: just so much better? 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: I think we did hit home runs, okay, that's fair, 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: But I think being serious. I think it's hard to 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: hit now. I mean, god, dang man, guys. You know 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: some of these guys they don't command, but they're throwing 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: a hundred when you're facing them once in the sixth inning. 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: That's no day at the beach. Hitting is really hard. 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 4: They're just pitching has evolved so much and it's changed, 55 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: and it's just hard for hitters. 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: My favorite player to watch is Ellie de la Cruz. 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: No secret there. And we heard that there was some 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: injury issues down the stretch. What did you experience being 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: with him every day? Because I know it was important 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: for him to play every day, but did that hold 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: him back? 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: And I I was just telling some of the other 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: guys I needed to own up to that I probably 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: didn't do him any favors. I mean, I love the 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: fact that how much he wanted to play every day, 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 4: and I respect that a ton. I do think I 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: need to probably step in occasionally and go, hey, hey, 68 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: get off your legs today, and and I think that 69 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: will help him in the future. He'll hate it, but 70 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: I think it'll be good for him. 71 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: You have experience with that. Jose Ramirez battled you, didn't 72 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: he do. 73 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: You want to piss him off, tell him he's not 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: playing now. Josey in his would would d H and 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: he is. He got a little older. Ellie fights me 76 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: to the nail and and like I said, I really 77 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: respect it, but I still need to probably step in 78 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: and go, hey, I need to explain it better to 79 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: him why it will help him. 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: You love that though. As a manager, you want guys 81 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: that want to love the same thing. 82 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 5: You much rather have guys that say I want to 83 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: play a guys are like, oh thanks, I'll take the 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: week off. 85 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: Like people ask you all the time, like when you 86 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: go to take a picture out and they're mad, I 87 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: hope they're mad. 88 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: The ball Now that's a little too far. 89 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: But I don't want somebody looking in the dugout after 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: the fifth and like hey, come get me. You know, 91 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: I'll figure it out. But I like the fact guys 92 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: that want to stay out there. 93 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 94 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: One more on the transaction front, Hunter Green's name came 95 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: up like early this offseason, and I was like, why 96 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: the heck would the Reds do that? So I know 97 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: that's not your job, but if you see a rumor 98 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: like that come out, do you make a phone call like, hey, 99 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: I think we should hold on to this guy, no. 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: Because I actually remember when it did because I was 101 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: with I was with Nick, and I go where he goes. 102 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 103 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes things in today's world with internet and everything, 104 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 4: as we all know, if it's on the internet, it 105 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: has to be true, of course. But that got legs 106 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 4: for some reason. And we can't go get those guys 107 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: in our market, so for us to trade them, somebody 108 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 4: better give us their whole team. And actually we love 109 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: our starting pitching. So I don't know where that got 110 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 4: legs and it shouldn't have. 111 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: You got last. 112 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 5: I love Nick by the way. Oh he's unbelieved, he's 113 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 5: been on He's unbelievable. 114 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and bad there, I'm telling you, man, I've never 115 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: been accused of being the smartest person, and I know that. 116 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: But I came here for the right reasons. And when 117 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: you're with people every day, because it's challenging man sometimes, 118 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 4: and I love going through with guys like that that 119 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: I respect and they care about me. 120 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: And look out for me. 121 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: He lost one of your guys though, Yeah, Millsey he retired. 122 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 5: Yeah what are you going to do without Milsey? Because 123 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 5: he's been with you for how long? 124 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: Well, since our first year together was nineteen seventy eight. 125 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: Think about that, I mean cribbage games, you think about that. 126 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: But we're so close that. I was so happy that 127 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: he was able to be in a situation where he 128 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 4: could handle it coming back family wise, and then so 129 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 4: for him to say he did it, not to be 130 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 4: able to go home and be with his family. Everybody's 131 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: happy for him. I mean, it's just that guy is 132 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: He's everybody's either uncle or grandpa or brother. He's just 133 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: the salt of the earth and that will never change. 134 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was good. 135 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: That's a good final question there for May say we'll 136 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: see you at reds Fast. We're going to be there 137 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: for our show. 138 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: We are. 139 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he is, but I'm going to be 140 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: there with Todd Fraser and Danny Green. We're gonna get 141 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: That was the promise. Five with now ten with him 142 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: when we see him at reds Fast, appreciate you be 143 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: right back. 144 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: How's life with him? Bloom? 145 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: It's been good. 146 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 6: The transition has been seamless, man, because he was around 147 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 6: quite a bit the last couple of years, specifically last 148 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 6: year having Mo and him, it was as smooth as 149 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 6: I could have ever anticipated the the way they handled 150 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 6: everything from just Mo really focused on the big league team. 151 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 6: Him was kind of implementing a lot of different systems 152 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 6: of the process down the minor leagues and hiring down 153 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 6: there in order to set us up for success. So 154 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 6: as we got past the trade deadline, a lot more 155 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 6: communication and meeting with him a lot more often. 156 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: The off season has been great. Man. 157 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 6: I love the way he thinks, he cares about people, 158 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 6: loves the game, So that part of it's been really 159 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 6: really good. 160 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 7: Should it be seamless? Like I mean, you when you 161 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 7: have a new guy come in, do you kind of like, hey, 162 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 7: how's he gonna like? How's he gonna mix this up? 163 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 7: Because it hasn't gone the way we wanted it the 164 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 7: last two years. Or is it like I'd rather have 165 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 7: it seamless and then we figure it out. 166 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 6: No, I mean when I say seamless, all those conversations 167 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 6: have been taking place for months now, even spring training 168 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 6: this past year, so there's no surprises as far as 169 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 6: how he thinks and what he's looking to implement, and 170 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 6: he's done exactly what he said he was gonna do. 171 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 6: So from from that standpoint, that's what I mean by seamless. 172 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 6: Is there's been no surprises in how he communicates and 173 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 6: what we're trying to accomplish. 174 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, is there anything different he's brought to the table already, 175 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 5: meaning terminology things he looked for was there forever I 176 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 5: played with no doubt? 177 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: Right, So is there is he? 178 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 5: Is he changing terminology? Is he changing what they look for? 179 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 5: Is he changed how you guys go about you know, 180 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 5: the off season? 181 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 6: A combination of all those things, right, He definitely wants 182 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 6: to do things a little bit different and change things 183 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 6: up from the way we've done it in the past. 184 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 6: There's obviously a lot of history and things that have 185 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 6: been sustainable here that he will keep. But there is 186 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 6: an element of changing how we look at player acquisition 187 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 6: in the draft and how we look at even development 188 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: minor leagues. A lot more horsepower and resources be important 189 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 6: to that how we develop guys at the big league level, 190 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 6: adding staff members that could aid in that as well. 191 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: So that's been a positive. 192 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 6: And he communicates well with me, But he does a 193 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 6: really nice job of communicating with our staff as well, 194 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 6: so that everybody's on the same page and understand that 195 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 6: there's one common language and here's what we're headed towards. 196 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I worked with him or worked for him for 197 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 7: like two months when I was with the Red. 198 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: Sox and he was he was a Red Sox. 199 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 7: He does an incredible job of communicating well with everybody, 200 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 7: but he also here's your input. What's the one thing 201 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 7: that you can tell us that you're like, hey, I 202 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 7: really need more of this since he's come on board, Like, hey, 203 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 7: you know, I enjoyed this from MO, but we lacked 204 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 7: some of this that I would like a little bit 205 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 7: more of as managers of the big league team that 206 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 7: I want to win. 207 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, the thing that comes to mind is when you 208 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 6: look at some of the resources that have been important 209 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 6: to the minor leagues, that was a big part of 210 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 6: it is not being spread too thin down there and 211 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 6: guys trying to do several different jobs. So I think 212 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 6: the process that has been put in place, the hiring 213 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 6: process and the people that have been brought on man 214 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 6: is already seeing the benefit of that, and we're going 215 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 6: to continue to being able to add a couple guys 216 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 6: at the big league level as well. So I think 217 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 6: that more than anything, is just being able to have 218 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 6: more manpower behind what we're trying to do. 219 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 5: Before we go on. You know, your answer should have 220 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 5: been to that money to get players. That should have 221 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: been your answers time you gave it to give us money? 222 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: Do you get players? 223 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: What do you mean money? It's good players. 224 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: I hear you, yes. 225 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: But I mean I'm just saying. It's my opinion. 226 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 6: You like things that you know, things that you can say. 227 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: You know. That's why you have that seat. That's perfect, 228 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: the best role in the world where you're just like 229 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: money for players. Can we spend money? Yes? Okay, great, 230 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 3: well all right, let's get it money. Of course that 231 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: is true. All right, let's get to some specific players. 232 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: I want to start with Sonny Gray, who obviously is 233 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: not with the team now, but your thoughts on that 234 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: move and you're. 235 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: Always looking for some storyline at the winter meetings. 236 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: The sexy storyline to start things off is did he 237 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: want to. 238 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: Be a Yankee? 239 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: And his agents are. 240 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Plaguing and all that, And you just spent a lot 241 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: of time with Sonny, So. 242 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts. 243 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 6: I love Sonny, I love the way he competes, the 244 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 6: way he prepares its next level, and guy's feet off 245 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 6: of that man even when he came in first spring training. 246 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 6: The way he goes about his bullpens and just the 247 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 6: days in between. You want your young guys to notice 248 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 6: a lot of that and and try to mimic it. 249 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 6: I hate seeing him go, but when you look at 250 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 6: I mean him was pretty clear on what the objectives 251 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: are and what we're trying to do. Like he said, 252 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 6: we're not going to concede anything for this upcoming year. 253 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 6: We're gonna compete and keep the standard high, but at 254 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 6: the same time set ourselves up for success in the 255 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 6: futures where we show up and you know you're gonna 256 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 6: win and having that type of club that's extremely competitive 257 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 6: and that's part of the Sunny trade, and there's going 258 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 6: to be more down the road here shortly. 259 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: So wait what what it's wait what? 260 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 6: So it's it's it's it's unfortunate to see those type 261 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 6: of guys go. But at the same time, you know 262 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 6: you're setting yourself up for success and everybody's on the 263 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 6: same page as to what that needs to look like. 264 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: He snuck it in. 265 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 5: I got, I got, I heard that. But who's going 266 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: to take over the leadership role? Sonny was kind of 267 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 5: the leader of the of the starting rotation and kind 268 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 5: of the pitching staff. Who's going to take over that 269 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 5: role on your team? 270 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: Now, I think you have to grow that. 271 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 6: It's hard to sit here and say this guy is 272 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 6: the guy, but you do have guys that are young 273 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 6: that have leadership qualities. In a liberatore in am agreevy 274 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 6: that you you're wanting them to take that next step. 275 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 6: Doesn't mean they have to be the guy because usually 276 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 6: it's a guy that's been in the league, that's has 277 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 6: ups and downs at the big leagues already that can 278 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 6: speak to that. But these guys couldn't take that next 279 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 6: step together and collectively grow into that type of role. 280 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: So I look forward to that. 281 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean when you look at each one of 282 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 6: those guys are very different in how they go about 283 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 6: their business. But Deliberator, he does have the leadership qualities 284 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 6: to be able to do it like Libby's. 285 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: He's a dude man. 286 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 6: The way he thinks about the game, the way he 287 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 6: prepares you can he gets punched in the face and 288 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 6: there's not a whole lot of emotion, which is something 289 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 6: you want to see in that type of role. 290 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: So he's someone that can definitely grow into it. 291 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, had Sonny accepted the trade before last season. How 292 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 7: much different would this season this past season have been 293 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 7: for you guys in the sense of like scrambling during 294 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 7: spring training to try to find somebody. Is it better 295 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 7: that it happened now and then you have the off 296 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 7: season to figure it out, because if he had accepted 297 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 7: the trade from last year, how different would it have 298 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 7: been for you guys throughout this this season that you 299 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 7: have you still on michaelas. 300 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. 301 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 6: We still had guys that can take the ball, and 302 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 6: thankfully all of our starters took the ball every every 303 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 6: time out. But it did give an opportunity for like 304 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 6: a Libertore to be in the rotation this year, and 305 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 6: it gives us an opportunity to see what a Kyle 306 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 6: lay he comes into spring training built up, and give 307 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 6: him an opportunity to start as well. So you have 308 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 6: enough time and and him's been clear he'd like to 309 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 6: add another one before we get the spring training, So 310 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 6: that'll be interesting to see kind of how that pans 311 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 6: out as well. 312 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 5: Since your whole coaching still well not all of them, 313 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 5: but most of your coaching staff his ex cardinals, great, 314 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 5: can we fire descalso and hire me as the bench coach? 315 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: No chance change every day, right, every day, every day 316 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: you imagine my life. 317 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: You're a saint, You're a saint. No chance? 318 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: What about Controllers? Yeah, I mean that's kind of the 319 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: next big name, right. 320 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 5: It has a no trade in Nolan, So it's it's 321 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 5: kind of Wilson and Nolan are the next two that 322 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 5: have no trades. 323 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 6: And Wilson's been clear about he loves being here in 324 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 6: Saint Louis and he loves the group and being a 325 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 6: part of building this group up to get to where 326 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 6: we want to get to. But at the same time, 327 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 6: it's gonna have to make sense more so for not 328 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 6: on him but his family. 329 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: And he's the type of guy you can have these 330 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: conversations with. He's very upfront. 331 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 6: He loves where he's at, he loves the situation in 332 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 6: Saint Louis, he feels at home. But at the same time, 333 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 6: if it makes sense, then it's a conversation. So we'll 334 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 6: see kind of where that leads. But the other one 335 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 6: with with Nolan, Yeah, I mean, we've got a couple 336 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 6: of months, we'll see kind of how this song plays out. 337 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 7: This might be super idiot question. Any chance Contraires can 338 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 7: still catch did he put a mid on his hand 339 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 7: at all last year. As far as like Cardinals trade value, 340 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 7: it's tougher to trade just a first baseman who had 341 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 7: a catcher would be way different. 342 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 6: He has a passion for it and if needed I 343 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 6: I wouldn't put it past them to be able to 344 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 6: go back there and still do it. He took the 345 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 6: first a lot better than I anticipated, Like I thought 346 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 6: he would be good over there, Like he did a 347 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 6: really nice job man. Footwork around the bag was good, 348 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 6: and his dedication to it was awesome. So I think 349 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 6: there's some versatility there. 350 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: What will it take And I know you don't have 351 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: all the answers to this question for you guys to 352 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: compete with the Milwaukee with the with the Cubs, right, 353 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 5: because for the years and years and years it was 354 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: always the Cardinals dungeon right, and then the last few years, 355 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 5: obviously Milwaukee's taking off the Cubs made the playoffs. What 356 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 5: will it take for you guys to give back to 357 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: the Cardinal way, which for me was always man, they 358 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: win and they compete every year. 359 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 6: That's when you talk about the sunny Gray move and something. 360 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 6: It's setting yourself, setting us ourselves up for success down 361 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 6: the road, and that doesn't mean a ways away like 362 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 6: that can be pretty soon. But it's a combination of 363 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 6: some of these young guys taking the next step in 364 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 6: their career and being able to do what we think 365 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 6: they're capable of doing and doing what they know they're 366 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 6: capable of doing, but also strengthening the pitching side and 367 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 6: getting some guys that can miss some bats and and 368 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: and compete in that kind of top of the rotation 369 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 6: type of guys. So that's something that we've we've lacked, 370 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 6: we've lacked death and at the moment we do have 371 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 6: some young guys that are coming through that we're pretty 372 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 6: talking about. 373 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wait, sorry, go ahead, crauch. 374 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: Oh no, How surprised were you with how Hellsley did 375 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 7: when he went to New York? And if like, what 376 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 7: did you see? What did you see from him? Did 377 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 7: you see anything in his mannerisms? Did you see anything 378 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 7: in his pitch usage? I know you're not You're you're 379 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 7: managing your own team, but I'm sure you kept. 380 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: You know, Oh. 381 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, you do keep track because you want to see 382 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 6: how these guys do once they leave. And it's something 383 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 6: he battled with even with us, and he was in 384 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 6: and out of it. Obviously there's a ton of noise 385 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 6: around the pitch tipping, which is a real thing for 386 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 6: him that he falls in and out of, and at 387 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 6: times there's there's several things that he does that that 388 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 6: can give it away that he's well aware of. But 389 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 6: in the heat of the moment, game speeds up on 390 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 6: you and you fall into it. So there's some things there, man, 391 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 6: but this is a real competitor. I enjoyed having Healsley Man. 392 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 6: We went through times where it was just keeping him 393 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 6: healthy and there was times where man, he wanted the 394 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 6: ball all the time, like last year. So I enjoyed 395 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 6: having him. I think, I think he'll bounce. That can 396 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 6: be just fine. 397 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 5: When you when you say pitch tipping, Yeah, did you 398 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: guys know he was doing that? And did you guys 399 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 5: work with him on that? And then so it was 400 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 5: a constant because once a tip, are always a tipper. 401 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 5: And so I don't know what it was. I'm not 402 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 5: going to get into all that, but you guys identified 403 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 5: that in the Cardinals. 404 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: It was documented too though, I mean there's articles about 405 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: it right. It's it was a pre pitch delivery for 406 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: fastball and slider where it's like a little. 407 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: Bit of a bend and you can tell. 408 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 6: So there's a combination of things there, and we'd have 409 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 6: to get two into the nitty gritty, but he would 410 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 6: fall into it, and then the correction for it would 411 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 6: kind of lead to a different type of tipping. Right, 412 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 6: So there's this back and forth of just trying to 413 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 6: mask it so that he didn't fall into it. 414 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 5: But somebody the Ryan Dempster, where you just did everything, 415 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 5: all the crazies. 416 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 6: It is hard, man like creature of habit, and sometimes 417 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 6: you fall, especially in the heat of the moment. Man, 418 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 6: you're fifteen pitches into an outing and you're just trying 419 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 6: to and you fall back into it and the next 420 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 6: thing you know, it snowballs on you. So it's not 421 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 6: the easiest thing. He's definitely aware of it, and I 422 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 6: think we'll be fine. Pressure rams up your your weaknesses 423 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 6: come out big time. 424 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: Right like you know those cratch. 425 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 5: The more pressure there is, the more your weaknesses appear. 426 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 5: Whether it's tipping, whether it's you know, hitting, whatever it is. 427 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 5: That's when you're like, oh, everything gets exposed. And so 428 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 5: that's why with pictures it's so hard for them to 429 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 5: stop doing it all right, before we let you go. 430 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: Since you're a hometown guy like me, what's your favorite restaurant? 431 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: Orlando? 432 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: Dude, I haven't been here and so like you were 433 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: living here. That was back in like two thousand and four. 434 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: So okay, what was your favorite restaurant? 435 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: You can't say like somebody I got nothing? 436 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: You got nothing? 437 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: No, not Christine, I'm not just like favorite thing to do? 438 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: Like did you go? Were you a Parks guy? Did 439 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: you go? 440 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: Like? 441 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 3: What did you do in here? I was in high school? 442 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 5: So I have lived here high school. I haven't been No, 443 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 5: you haven't been here sin high school school? 444 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: Because then I want to treat. 445 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: You because when I was a DV we had skipped in. 446 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 6: We all went to Universal for sure, Like I can 447 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: see the roller coaster form the my math class. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, 448 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 6: but I have to live here since high school we 449 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 6: burn Jupiter for twelve years. 450 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: Can he have the year defensively? Yeah, dude, he had 451 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: one of the greatest years of all time. 452 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 6: This dude, when I say, he's an absolute like savage 453 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 6: when it comes to wanting to be that guy, every 454 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 6: year he cares and he wants several of those gold gloves. 455 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 6: He's passionate about it, and I think the bat's going 456 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 6: to be a real thing for him. 457 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: He can spray it all over the place. 458 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 6: He's got some pop, and I think as he continues 459 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 6: to get older, we're going to see a really good 460 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 6: version of that side of him. But defensively, man, he 461 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 6: cares and he wants to be the best to ever 462 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 6: do it, and it'll be fun to watch him. 463 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 464 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: By the way, DP alumni game is December nineteen. Are 465 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 5: you in you going? No, I'm out of town, but. 466 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: You can don't ask me, dude. Good to see you, 467 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: Good to see you, brother. Hey, we're back, Stephen. Vote 468 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: is here. You should do the intro. 469 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 5: Here, turn back to back, back to back, manager the back. 470 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 5: Did you I mean, did you think it was coming? 471 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: Because I didn't think they would. I thought they would 472 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: have vote tired to vote, tired of Murph and then 473 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 5: both of you guys won. 474 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was pretty cool. I mean, Uhpe. 475 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: Written this year. We'll see, we'll see. 476 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, it means so much, right, It's like 477 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 8: it's an organizational award. It really is recognizing what our 478 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 8: guys did. And it was a unique year, to say 479 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 8: the least for us, but so really honored to get 480 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 8: that happy for Murf and but you know, I was 481 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 8: not expecting it at all. 482 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: So part of it is there's always a narrative with 483 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: these awards, right, whether it's the team had lower public 484 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: perception of expectations. I feel like this one had just 485 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: had to do with the fact that during the season 486 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: the team had essentially no shot of winning the division 487 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: and then they storm back. So where was a point 488 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: where you looked and you were like, this is cute. 489 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen this year. 490 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 8: You know, you try not to go there, right because 491 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 8: as soon as you go there, you make up your 492 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 8: mind that you can't. And I think the beauty of 493 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 8: our game is we play one hundred and sixty two 494 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 8: of these things and until you have an E next 495 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 8: to your name, you're not out of it. 496 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: And that was really the rhetoric we used. 497 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 8: And then to try and get the guys, it's, hey, 498 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 8: we're here to win today. We can't control what happened yesterday, 499 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 8: and we can't worry about tomorrow. 500 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: Yet, so you gotta you gotta at Tito. 501 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 8: So you you have to you have to keep your 502 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 8: head down and you have to focus on today and 503 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 8: our guys did a phenomenal job of that and they 504 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 8: were able to come back. 505 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 5: I remember we had I did a game of yours. 506 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 5: It was in submit September ish, and you guys are 507 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: right there, and I never forget You're in your office 508 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 5: and he pulls up his chair you know, you know 509 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 5: most managers kind of stay by on their desk. He 510 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 5: literally pulls up his chair like dis closed. He's like, 511 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 5: what do you got? And I was like, oh man, 512 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 5: this guy's locked. 513 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: In and I asked him. 514 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 5: I literally I literally looked at you and go, how 515 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: are you guys doing this right? Because you look at 516 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 5: their lineup? But then I watch you guys play and 517 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, every piece fits, every guy knows 518 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 5: what they're doing. 519 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: And to me, that goes to the manager. 520 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 5: You having good communication skills and saying, hey, you're this, 521 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 5: I need you to do this, You're this, You're this OZI, 522 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: You're the star. 523 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: Go be the star. Boom boom boom boom boom. 524 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 5: So yes, you won Manager of the Year again, But 525 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 5: I was just so impressed when I talked to you 526 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 5: and you're like, what do you got? 527 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: It was. 528 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 5: It was one of the coolest things ever and then 529 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 5: to see you guys make it. And obviously the playoffs 530 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 5: didn't go as well as you wanted. But with all 531 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 5: the things you lost, you know, losing nail or losing 532 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 5: Class A, losing all the things you lost along the way, 533 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 5: and here you are that that is all credit to 534 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 5: you well in the organization. 535 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 8: No, and I and I appreciate it, and I think, 536 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 8: really what it comes down to, and our coaches do 537 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 8: a phenomenal job of this, it's every one of our guys. 538 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: We have to play perfect baseball. 539 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 8: We we have to make plays, we have to throw strikes, 540 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 8: and we have to take advantage of things when we 541 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 8: when we get opportunities. And to our guys credit, they 542 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 8: did that the last two months of the season especially. 543 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 8: I mean, this was a team that you know, like 544 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 8: you said, we could have easily folded and no one 545 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 8: would have cared, No one would have thought twice. And 546 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 8: but that wasn't enough for our guys, and they wanted 547 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 8: to keep going. And man did they play some really 548 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 8: good baseball down the stretch. Wait, but now I'm going 549 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 8: to spin it forward. Okay, we're at the winter meetings. 550 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 8: We want to figure out what the Guardians are going 551 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 8: to do. So it was a great story, but it 552 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 8: didn't go where you wanted it to go. Ultimately, what 553 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 8: do you think the team needs to do? 554 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: Like, try and give me, if you can, something really tangible, 555 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: like I really need more pop, I really need you know, 556 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: give me something that you really want when you have 557 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: a discussion with your front office. 558 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know it's been this way in 559 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 8: Cleveland but since before I got here. But you know 560 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 8: the majority of our success is going to be with 561 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 8: the group we have. We need to continue to develop 562 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 8: these guys. We need to continue to push them and 563 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 8: help them grow up. We're still super young, right, and 564 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 8: it's exciting. You look at our offense in September. We're 565 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 8: we're the thirteenth best offense in September with all young guys. 566 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 8: There's a lot to be excited about. And those guys 567 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 8: have another year under their belt. So what we have 568 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 8: to do, the tangible thing is we have to help 569 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 8: our guys figure out who they are individually as hitters, 570 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 8: because if we get our entire group to get better individually, 571 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 8: we're going to have more offense. So whether it's more pop, 572 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 8: whether it's better to strike, hitting more execution, whatever, those 573 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 8: things are, That's what we're going. 574 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: To continue to coach, and that's what our guys are 575 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: working on. This winner. 576 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 8: So to say we need this, I don't think you 577 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 8: can put your finger on on one thing. 578 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: And I really like our group that we have. How 579 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: do you do that? 580 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 5: Are you or your hitting coach or someone calling these 581 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: guys all winter? Are you flying around the country to 582 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 5: see guys? How do you have them call video? How 583 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 5: do you how do you work with guys even though 584 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 5: because you. 585 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: Live in Seattle? Right? Yeah? 586 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 5: So how do you how do you work with these guys? 587 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: A lot of it is conversations. 588 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 8: A lot of it is just talking, and it's helping 589 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 8: guys understand Hey, what were your reflections? 590 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: We're you know, our coaching staff. 591 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 8: There's no off season now there isn't, right, I mean 592 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 8: players don't stop training, we don't stop coaching at Yeah. 593 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 7: No. 594 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: I used to take a few weeks off. 595 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 8: You know, I didn't touch a bat for three months 596 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 8: because I didn't want to think about hitting. 597 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: Right. So, but it's changed, the game has changed. 598 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 8: I think there's some good and bad with that, right, 599 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 8: But our hitting coaches are diving in with these guys. 600 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 8: They're sharing video our hitting coaches will fly around to 601 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 8: work with guys from time time, but it's also their 602 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 8: career and their time, so we try to leave them 603 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 8: alone as much as possible, but also we want to 604 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 8: support them throughout the year, and I feel like we 605 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 8: do a pretty good job of that. 606 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Sorry and this never happens, 607 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: but the name is escaping me postseason rookie the latter. Yeah, right, 608 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: I just wanted I didn't want to Butcher that it's 609 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: been a long. 610 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: Day his first game. 611 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to aspects we haven't told. 612 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't remember he. 613 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: Doesn't either, But Chase thrown into the mix like that. 614 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: So what was that experience like for you as a 615 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: manager to try and get this dude into playoff mode 616 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: when he doesn't even know what big league mode is, 617 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: and then what's he going to be like in the future. 618 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the sky's the limit for Chase. 619 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 8: Obviously with him, it's health, right, He's he's had a 620 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 8: hard time staying on the field, regardless of the level. 621 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 8: But when we've seen this guy healthy, he absolutely rakes. 622 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 8: He plays a good outfield and that's why we felt 623 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 8: thrown him in there. He had been working, he'd played 624 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 8: in a few games in Arizona, and I mean why not. 625 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 8: We were searching for offense, and he had great plate 626 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 8: appearances throughout the course of the postseason. And you know, 627 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 8: first fly ball, your first opportunity in the big leagues, 628 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 8: and he gets a sunball the one spot that the 629 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 8: ball could not get hit, It got hit there, and 630 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 8: to his credit, he didn't let that shake him. He 631 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 8: came right up his next to bat, worked in two 632 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 8: to four to two walk through, made the play of 633 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 8: the game that won the game for us, throwing the 634 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 8: runner out, the lead runner making a perfect throw. I mean, 635 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 8: he's a he's a solid player. He walked in confident, 636 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 8: he was not big eyed, and I knew he was ready. 637 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 8: And we felt like as a group that that was 638 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 8: the right decision. Who's the guy you think on your 639 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 8: team side to him? Obviously you think he can take the. 640 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: Next ship, But who's the guy, whether that guy that's 641 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 5: either in the minor league or a guy that was 642 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 5: on your team that can take the next jump and 643 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 5: help you guys the most bow Naylor Naylor. 644 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 8: He made some really good adjustments with his lower half 645 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 8: this last year and now this offseason clean up the 646 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 8: path a little bit more to get some more consistency. 647 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 8: But Bonnaylor is one of the best athletes in the 648 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 8: big leagues. I mean, he can catch, he can throw, 649 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 8: he can block, calls a great game. 650 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: He's the leader of. 651 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 8: That pitching staff along with Loston Hedges and David Frye, 652 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 8: and but the offense is coming for Bonnaylor, and I 653 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 8: think he's going to be a huge piece of our 654 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 8: team next year. 655 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 3: Hey, you mentioned it. 656 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: It's no secret this team can't go big in free 657 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: agent spending and all of that. 658 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: They dropped what it was it four million bucks on 659 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 3: Austin Hedges. 660 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: He thank you, proud, like you're in the that was you. 661 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 8: Whatever hedge he's making, it's not enough. I mean you 662 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 8: can look at his offensive numbers. You can pick apart 663 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 8: any player and say, oh, they're not. Austin Hedges is 664 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 8: the leader of that clubhouse. He makes our pitchers better, 665 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 8: he makes the position players better, he makes everyone around 666 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 8: him better. And he's a really good catcher and a 667 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 8: really good hitter. And the numbers may not always back 668 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 8: it up, but he had a seven to fifty ops 669 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 8: the last six weeks of the season. 670 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: Like he can hit. 671 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 8: He's a leader, he's elite, and the value that he 672 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 8: brings our clubhouse and our team is invaluable. 673 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: Does he want to be a manager one day? 674 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: He's open to it. Okay, you know the couple of years. 675 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 8: Calm down. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna have to reel it 676 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 8: in a little bit. 677 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean you've done that. Yeah right, Yeah, 678 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: we're measured. 679 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 680 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 8: When and when there's no cameras on, we have a 681 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 8: good time, you know, so exactly, head, you can. 682 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: Do whatever he wants in this game. 683 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 8: He's an elite leader, he's a smart baseball person, and 684 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 8: I think he's gonna do whatever he wants. 685 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 5: Okay, who from your bullpen? How do you guys keep 686 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 5: finding these guys? It's just like, oh, we'll throw him 687 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 5: in the bullpen one hundred with a split and a 688 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 5: big curveball. Who's who's the next guy for the bullpen 689 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 5: for the Cleveland Guardians. 690 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's a testament to our scouting, player 691 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 8: development or pitching group of just identifying these guys as 692 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 8: amateurs and then bringing them in and developing them and 693 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 8: bringing them up and getting them prepared to do it. 694 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: And we have a really exciting guy. 695 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 8: Franko Alamann six eight six', nine you, know ninety six ninety, 696 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 8: seven good. 697 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: Slider, uh he's. 698 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 8: Coming he's had some health, issues but, uh we've got 699 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 8: a number of pitchers we're really excited. About but that's 700 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 8: an area we need to we need to, address is 701 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 8: our bullpen and where we're working on. 702 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: That i'm gonna give you one tough one just while 703 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: we're on. It i'm not gonna ask you anything to 704 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: do with obviously like class a ortise all, that but 705 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: just from a managing, perspective you all of a sudden 706 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: just got two players plucked, away, RIGHT i mean you 707 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: deal with that with. 708 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: Injuries but what was that like to deal with as 709 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: a manager this? 710 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: Year it was. 711 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 8: Difficult there's no there's no playbook for that, one, right 712 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 8: that one's not in like a handbook or you, know 713 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 8: there's no bingo card with that one on. It so 714 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 8: it was A and obviously the investigation is still going, 715 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 8: on so it's it's a it's a tough situation for, 716 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 8: us AND i couldn't be more proud of the way 717 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 8: our guys handled. It you, know we talked about, it 718 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 8: we made ourselves available to, you, know. 719 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: Talk it, out whatever you need to. 720 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 8: Do but we have a game tonight and we have 721 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 8: a choice to make and we can either feel sorry 722 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 8: for ourselves or we can go out and we can. 723 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: Win and to. 724 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 8: Credit to our, guys they they rallied with each other 725 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 8: and it feels it felt like we didn't skip a. 726 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: Beat and that's a testament to our. 727 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: Players that's exactly WHAT i was thinking that the. 728 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 5: BULLPEN i, mean, yeah how good Can Gavin Williams because 729 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 5: the second half of the year he was one of 730 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: the best pitchers in? Baseball big twelve to six are 731 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 5: throwing the high heater with big. 732 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: Rig, right, yeah a big. Rig how good can he 733 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: be because he figured something? Out he can be. 734 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 8: ELITE i, mean the dude made three delivery, adjustments added 735 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 8: a pitch in. Season those are things you just not 736 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 8: many people can. Do and the stuff is. Real he 737 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 8: is an absolute. Bulldog he doesn't show, it but this 738 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 8: dude's got passion And gavin can. 739 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: Be as good as he wants to. 740 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 8: Be And Carl willis and the pitching team do a 741 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 8: tremendous job with all of our. Starters our starting pitching 742 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 8: was really the story of our. YEAR i mean all 743 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 8: of these guys stepped up in a huge. Way we 744 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 8: saw huge strides from From gavin And Joey, Cantillo Slade, 745 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 8: Seconi Logan allen was as steady as you can be 746 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 8: for you so really And Tanner bibe had a great second. 747 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 8: Half so we're really excited about our starting. 748 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: Pitching there's a big difference from this past season to 749 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: the season. BEFORE i felt. 750 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Like there was a lot more solidified right with the starting, 751 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: rotation because even when we're trying to, look, hey who's 752 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: going to pitch playoff? Games and if they keep going, 753 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: further probably had a little more comfort in what was there. 754 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: No, DOUBT i mean that was our biggest, growth right 755 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: was our starting. 756 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 8: Pitching and these guys stepped up when when we did 757 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 8: Lose CLASS, a the starters picked up the sixth. 758 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: Inning the starters Took Kate smith's sixth. 759 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 8: Inning so That kate could be in the ninth and 760 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 8: all the credit goes to our starting pitching for what we. 761 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: Accomplished, hey last, one But. 762 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: Kate smith took over the ninth, inning, Right Hunter gaddis 763 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 5: took over the eighth. Inning you move out a lot 764 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 5: of these guys, back did you think at the, end 765 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: they got a little bit tired because. 766 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: You use them a lot and you relied on. 767 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 5: Them, basically this is the second year in a row 768 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: where you really relied on these guys are. Studs did 769 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 5: you think a little bit they had to HAVE i, 770 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 5: know you try to stay away from but and, yes 771 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 5: you're starting pitching was. 772 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: Better but still you're, like we're In we're trying to 773 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: win every. 774 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 8: Game it's, hard, RIGHT i, mean we play a ton 775 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 8: of one run, games one and two run games a, 776 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 8: week and these guys stepped up and they were damn 777 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 8: near per ficked again for two years in a. Row 778 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 8: and there's always a little bit an element of. Fatigue 779 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 8: AND i think each one of these guys is learning 780 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 8: more and more about their, bodies learning more and more aout. 781 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 8: Themselves and you, know we throttled back their workload a 782 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 8: little bit this year that compared to the year before 783 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 8: when they all through seventy eight eighty games the year. 784 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: Before so it's definitely something we're aware. Of we talk with. 785 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 8: Them they're they're having great offseasons right now to prepare 786 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 8: their bodies to do it. Again and you, know anytime 787 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 8: you can give those guys a night. Off it's a good, 788 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 8: thing but, uh we don't get too many of those. 789 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 8: OPPORTUNITIES i love that. 790 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 5: LOVE i just like When cleveland's good at, baseballs someone 791 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: that played in that division for a long. 792 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: Time Like i'm, like one of my first big league road. 793 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 5: Trips was jacob when it Was Jacobs field and they 794 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 5: were and it was Just and when you go back 795 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 5: there and like you turn on the playoffs and there's 796 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: forty thirty five, Thousand like to, me that Is, yeah 797 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 5: they get behind. 798 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: You it's an unbelievable sports. Town and we our fans are. 799 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 8: Incredible they support us all year whether we were doing 800 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 8: well or, not and we CAN'T i can't be more 801 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 8: thankful for. 802 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: Them we were the warm. Up he's got to do, press, 803 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: confidence all that. Stuff see changed much that. 804 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: The full jacket on the. Style we'll see about the award. 805 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: Show h 806 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 8: M hm