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Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is

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Speaker 1: whiddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, then,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt and

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Speaker 1: I am Ben. We are here with our super producer

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Speaker 1: Noeld the Kaiser Brown. Noeld the Kaiser as in a

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Speaker 1: for it. Epiletts a T shirt not a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: Hey Ben, Hey Matt. You're probably wondering why are you

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Speaker 1: guys just talking about Noel's T shirt. Well, it's because

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Speaker 1: we're in a pretty good mood. Before we jump into

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Speaker 1: Ben and I on. Fortunately Noel won't be joining us

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Speaker 1: going to broadcast a few shows live via periscope. We're

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Speaker 1: But you can also write to us directly. We've got

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Speaker 1: The topic for this week. This year marks the sevent

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Speaker 1: Go team, Yeah, go team. Indeed. Well, in fact, this

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Speaker 1: would lead from a limited war. Uh. And and this

427
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Speaker 1: looks at the possibilities of of large scale nuclear deployment.

428
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: One of the more dangerous things being that Russia could

429
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Speaker 1: deploy the dead hand system or it could be triggered,

430
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: whether by a massive attack against the country or the

431
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: Salso frightening that Russia could lose control over its nuclear

432
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: weapons and they could end up somewhere else, which we'll

433
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: talk about a little bit further. The end result than

434
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: being the possibility of a full on nuclear exchange where

435
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: counter attacks and attack x uh leave much of the

436
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: world incredibly damaged and civilization as we know it is

437
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: is uh, if not destroyed, profoundly damaged. Yeah, we're in

438
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: now and fallout. Okay, So why why all this tension?

439
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: What gives from the Russian point of view, the US

440
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: is attempting to establish a hedgemonty make Russia like a

441
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: client state, beholden to Western institutions, both the government kind

442
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: and the corporate kind. But from the Western perspective, bordering countries,

443
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: Eastern European countries, NATO members and so on need to

444
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: be protected from Russian expansionism. And both sides have some

445
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: valid points there. But the single most dangerous possibility in

446
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: this conflict is is the one that everybody thinks of

447
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: when you think of World War three. Yeah, the nuclear option.

448
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: The nuclear option is the most dangerous one that currently

449
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: exists on this planet. And it's a it's a mess

450
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: stop in real possibility. Yeah, it's not a it's not

451
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: as um apparent or inevitable a possibility as some fearmongers

452
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: would have us think. But here's the deal. Of the

453
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: countries that have nuclear weapons openly have nuclear weapons, right, yeah,

454
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: because it's such a secret. But of the countries that

455
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: do have nuclear weapons admit having them, the US and

456
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: Russia control nine percent of the world's nuclear arsenal, so

457
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Speaker 1: they have all of the big guns. Luckily, there's this Uh.

458
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: This was also an article by the same writer, Max Fisher.

459
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: There's a political scientist named j ol Felder, who estimated

460
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: the probability of war to be about eleven percent overall,

461
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: with an eighteen percent chance of either side using nuclear

462
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: weapons if war occurs, and there was only a two

463
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: percent chance that this nuclear war would cur between Russia

464
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: and the US. That's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's

465
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: pretty good. We've got a grizzly comparison there too. Yeah,

466
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: just for comparison, that is about twice the odds of

467
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Speaker 1: you dying in a car crash, but in this car crash,

468
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: everybody's in the car and everybody dies or many people die,

469
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Speaker 1: the vast majority. So that's that's a little bit of

470
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Speaker 1: a high level look at Russian. Of course, there's more

471
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: there that we could spend an entire podcast on. But

472
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: let's shift, or let's let's pivot, as governors like to say,

473
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Speaker 1: towards China, the US, Japan, and some of the other

474
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Speaker 1: Asian alliances in that region. So there's this comes up

475
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Speaker 1: all the time, Matt. We've seen this for years. We

476
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Speaker 1: did an earlier video on whether China was colonizing Africa,

477
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Speaker 1: and China is definitely doing resource extraction there on a high,

478
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: a large level. And you could argue, well, It's it's

479
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: true that other like larger companies are also doing resource

480
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: extraction there too. But this issue of China's rise is

481
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: an emergent superpower, it's aimed to establish regional hegemony over

482
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: East Asia comes up again and again cyclically, and it's

483
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: most controversial in China's disputes right now. It's most controversial

484
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: in China's disputes over naval territory, right Yeah, you mentioned

485
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: the South China see and like, who who owns this?

486
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: Does anyone own this? Who has the right to put

487
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: their military ships in this space? And yeah, there's been

488
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: lots and lots of conflict with that over the years,

489
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Speaker 1: a lot recently. And one of the things we found

490
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Speaker 1: in our video is that it seems to be a

491
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Speaker 1: popular belief, at least among the Chinese citizenry that the

492
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Speaker 1: and some of the officials even that there there will

493
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Speaker 1: be a necessary war between the United States and China.

494
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Right the idea that the US is hampering China's growth,

495
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Speaker 1: cutting it off from trade opportunities, seeking to contain the

496
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Speaker 1: country's influence. This coincides with Chinese R and D and

497
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: investment in it's called asymmetrical warfare. And and then forming

498
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: bilateral relationships or strengthening bilateral relationships with other countries outside

499
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Speaker 1: of the US. And there there's some great uh, there's

500
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: some great information you can read about this that I

501
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: think it's fascinating but also could be scary stuff if

502
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Speaker 1: it ever gets used. Well, one of the things you

503
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Speaker 1: you even noted in there is that the a lot

504
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: of the citizens that have that opinion that this war

505
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: will eventually be necessary believe that China would be victorious, right, yeah,

506
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: And that's because the nature of war has fundamentally changed

507
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: due to technological innovations. Right now, the US, which vastly

508
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: outspends every other country, uh yeah, yeah, on military endeavors. Uh,

509
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: the US vastly outspends everyone, has the most expensive toys

510
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: and it has the biggest guns. But this does not

511
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Speaker 1: mean that such a military is invulnerable. So there's a

512
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Speaker 1: quote by a security analyst named Laura Horta, and Horta

513
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Speaker 1: says China has no illusions about its military inferiority visa

514
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Speaker 1: VI the US, and knows that the status is likely

515
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Speaker 1: to endure for at least two decades. As such, that's

516
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Speaker 1: been developing a full range of asymmetric strategies to deter

517
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Speaker 1: the US until it's military reaches maturity. China is you know,

518
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: attempting to build carriers. Um, it's reverse engineering successfully several

519
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: different pieces of hardware and vehicles. Well, we see asymmetrical warfare.

520
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: What we mean is why spin uh, millions and millions

521
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Speaker 1: of millions and maybe billions of dollars of preparing a

522
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: carrier to fight a carrier versus carrier war when you

523
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: could just design some missiles that are faster than the

524
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: reaction time of the ships, right, the defense of the ships,

525
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: or attack submarines or something, you could take them out exactly, yeah, surreptitiously. Right.

526
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Speaker 1: So what China is working on is something that you

527
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: will often hear called uh area denial or act denial

528
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: of access. And this is just uh, this is just

529
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Speaker 1: having stuff set up in the vicinity, perhaps in the

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Speaker 1: South China Sea for uh, that would prevent any other,

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Speaker 1: any approaching force from getting close enough to attack the country.

532
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Speaker 1: So this, this would be a woefully costly thing in

533
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Speaker 1: terms of lead and treasure for both countries. Neither. I

534
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: mean if if the US invade or if whoever tried

535
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: to invade China, right yeah, yeah, And the US currently

536
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: sees control of the seas as one of the country's

537
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: biggest insurance policies for safety. Right. But this fortunately, this

538
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: also just like Russian NATO, has a lower chance of happening,

539
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: but not not maybe for the best reasons. It turns

540
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Speaker 1: out that both the US and China, if we're being candid,

541
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: have some significant internal problems or at least things that

542
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: would deter them from fighting a war. Yes, so China

543
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: is dealing with several crippling problems internally that they really

544
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: they need to handle first before they get into any

545
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: of this world war stuff. Like let's say, the the

546
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: pollution problems in the cities there, they're crippling. It's it's horrible,

547
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: citizen rees healthcare issue is it's a pretty dire situation

548
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: there right now. And also the one child policy has

549
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: had a huge effect, huge effect on the population numbers there. Yeah,

550
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: just to uh, just a put a little bit of

551
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Speaker 1: the environmental stuff in perspective, The Atlantic had an article

552
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: came out in two thousand thirteen, i want to say,

553
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: about twenty eight thousand rivers in China that just disappeared. Yeah,

554
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: that's not good. And and you know, as somewhat of

555
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: an emerging economy. They're having to use things like coal

556
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: power burning cole and a couple other, um let's say,

557
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: less than safe ways to make energy right, right, and

558
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: they're they're good things to China does lead the world

559
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: currently in solar energy or solar power research, but the

560
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: gender ratio sex ratio is still pretty skewed. Uh there

561
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: were I think it was something about like one hundred

562
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: and twenty something boys born for every one hundred girls nationwide.

563
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: Recently that has been lowering, but it's gonna be a while.

564
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a decade before it goes down

565
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: to something a little bit more um on on target.

566
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's just a long term effect of

567
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: that policy. And uh this isn't even touching on the

568
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: continuing debate about the Chinese economy how right, like how

569
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: corrupt or not corrupt it is? Right? Uh So, speaking

570
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: of problems, let's switch to the US. The US is

571
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: stretched then, given the wars in Afghanistan or Rock and

572
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: the continual operations in various places around the world. Uh Also,

573
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: both countries depend on one another economically, China has the

574
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Speaker 1: power to break the world's economy, uh so, or make

575
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: it if we want to be class half full people.

576
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: So they're kind of at a standoff here because China

577
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: has a lot of its UH finances tied up in

578
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: US bonds, right, and the US is dependent on China

579
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: for a lot of exports, So hopefully trade can save it.

580
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully it is more advantageous for both actors in this

581
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: scenario to work together and trade things. However, and this

582
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: is a point that was made in a in a

583
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: analysis from Yale, However, in both World Wars of the

584
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: previous century, Germany was Britain's biggest trade partner until the

585
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: war started, So both are clearly aiming to establish themselves

586
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: in either country once in the war and are increased

587
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: and both are increasingly competing for resources. Uh. China actually

588
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: has done what I think is is a not to

589
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: be flip about it, but I think it's it's a

590
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: pretty stylish move. Yeah, they're styling. They're styling on it. Yeah,

591
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: what are they doing, Yeah, they're they're going They're definitely

592
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: going about in a weird way. They're actually building islands,

593
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: kind of like we heard about in Dubai when they

594
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: were building these much on a much smaller scale. These

595
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: artificial islands out there in the world and the palm

596
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: and that stuff. Yeah, yeah, well they're building islands to

597
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: support the territor territorial claims of these areas in the

598
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: South China Sea, the Spratley Islands, I believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

599
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: So this this is a huge uh, this is a

600
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: huge issue with China and the US and other countries

601
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: around there, like the Philippines has recently been engaged in

602
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: some ongoing tension with China about its expansion and its

603
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: claims regarding what what constitutes its territory versus international waters.

604
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: And this is a this is a very tense thing here.

605
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: So China is actually building these islands to say, no,

606
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: this is China lands. So given international law, this far

607
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: off from these islands, not the mainland is where it

608
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: belongs to our government. Yeah, you could just build one

609
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Speaker 1: x kilometers away from each other, then you own the

610
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Speaker 1: whole ocean. So we we also when we looked at this, uh,

611
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Speaker 1: it seems like the calculation about how or when a

612
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: war would begin with China in the US, it seems

613
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Speaker 1: to often depend on the just the current events of

614
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Speaker 1: the time, right, And you can see predictions about this

615
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: stuff that often can seem contradictory. Uh. One one person

616
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: that I would like to reference here is a guy

617
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Speaker 1: named George Friedman. He's a geopolitical scientist, and he wrote

618
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Speaker 1: a book called The Next one hundred Years where he

619
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Speaker 1: said that there's going to be a um a fragmentation

620
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Speaker 1: in China, weakening of Russia, Japan will emerge as more

621
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Speaker 1: powerful thing, Turkey will emerge, and that eventually what's going

622
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: to happen is that there would be a world war

623
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Speaker 1: or a fight for world uh world power, right, superpower

624
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: status in twenty fifty you can you can check out

625
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: this analysis online. Just check for the next one hundred years.

626
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: But there's one other place that we haven't talked about,

627
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Speaker 1: which we're going to probably need to save for another episode. Yeah,

628
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Speaker 1: I think we should. Let's let's look at we're talking

629
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Speaker 1: about the Middle East. If you couldn't already, if you

630
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: didn't know that the place where there always seems to

631
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: be some very serious conflicts going on. Yeah, one of

632
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Speaker 1: the only positive things you can say about affairs between

633
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Speaker 1: countries in the Middle East is that it has not

634
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Speaker 1: yet resulted in a world war. Thankfully. It really hasn't,

635
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Speaker 1: It really hasn't. Well, Yeah, knock on wood. Right, But

636
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Speaker 1: what when we talked about the Middle East. One thing

637
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Speaker 1: that people think about often, right, is going to going

638
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: to be the complex relationship between countries like Israel and

639
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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, both of whom are against Iran. Uh, the

640
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Speaker 1: Islamic State versus everybody, because it wants to establish itself

641
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: as a country. We also cannot discount Turkey, but remember

642
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: the Islamic State. That's that's something that's gonna come up here.

643
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Speaker 1: Um in this podcast and in our later podcast, did

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Speaker 1: you catch the video of the president President Obama having

645
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: a slip of the tongue where he said we we

646
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: were training isisl Uh. It was just it seemed to

647
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: be just a slip of the tongue and it was

648
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: taken completely out of context, but it was posted all

649
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: over our conspiracy and above top secret today. Well, you know,

650
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: people did definitely train with US instruction or US funding

651
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: and then later go joy uh, different militias or I

652
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: just I don't I don't see the president saying out

653
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: loud on purpose that we were training Isisle. Well, I'll

654
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: check it out, because you know, we had a lot

655
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: of people writing in about our Isais video that we

656
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 1: did with with similar claims. So I'm gonna I'm gonna

657
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: check that once you get up here. We we have

658
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: to take a pause here there there, Probably some of

659
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: you guys are listening and thinking, come on, man, this

660
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: is fear mong green. It is true that people are

661
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: continually trying to put the fear of world war in

662
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: the news because those headlines sell. Uh. So we want

663
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the alarmism people have

664
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: been predicting the beginning of World War three since essentially

665
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: September three, the day after World War two, and probably

666
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: that night, it was probably that night, it was probably

667
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: like six fifteen. And the it's we have to be

668
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: careful when we hear people with an agenda ann in

669
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: these fears of war, especially you know who I'm about

670
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: to complain about pundits, experts, Yeah, professional experts, people in suits. Yeah.

671
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: So here's here's my thing. Uh. Not only does it

672
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: sell newspapers, does it sell you know, get clicks online

673
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: and all of that. It also helps to in sell

674
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: this notion that we need more security. No matter where

675
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: you are, what country you're in, the thought of an

676
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: impending global conflict will help you will at least help

677
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: you understand that we need to spend more tax dollars

678
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: on whatever defense we need to spend it on. Right,

679
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: at least according to the people who are in charge, right, Yeah,

680
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: that that has definitely happened in the past. I don't

681
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: know if it's a rule like across countries across the globe,

682
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: but I can clearly see the logic. I think. I

683
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: think it's pretty base, like base emotion of fear. Oh yeah,

684
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: you sell, you sell the fear that so that people

685
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: are fearful, and then they will they're more willing to

686
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's say, sacrifice the money they're taking

687
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: in tax dollars, sacrifice some liberty for some security. Just

688
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: trade in a little more right, one piece of the time.

689
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: That's what it is. So, you know what, I think

690
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: that's a good point too. So one of the things

691
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: that we we do know that there is this alarmism,

692
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: and it seems that currently, while the possibility of a

693
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: world war is higher, it still is pretty low for

694
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: different things. We do know, however, that when the next

695
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: global conflict occurs, if it occurs, it's going to be

696
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: very very different because out of these three scenarios that

697
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: we touched upon, um, the Middle East, China, Russia or

698
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, these these various conflicts. Out of these, Uh,

699
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: there there are several commonalities that are kind of new, right. Well.

700
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: The first one is that it feels as though a

701
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: vast majority of this conflict, of this war will be

702
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: fought online or at least through some type of cyber

703
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: attack measures that then lead to other further conflicts. Um. Also,

704
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 1: possibly it might some of it might take place in space. Bend.

705
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: Does that sound a little crazy? Ah, yeah, yeah it does.

706
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: It sounds a little crazy, but think about it. Satellites

707
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: are one of the most important technologies that we have

708
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: currently for communicating not only to one another as civilians,

709
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: as just people on this planet, but communicating for militaries. Yes.

710
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: In two thousand seven, uh, the Chinese government shot down

711
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: a satellite that it owned, and you can read about

712
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: this as a It was called a missile test, I think,

713
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: but it was also a clear message to other countries. Yeah.

714
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, hey, we need to get rid of

715
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: that satellite, right then do it for funzies? Uh? And

716
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: and the U s did not send up it's unmanned

717
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: spacecraft just to I don't know, um, take a road trip.

718
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: You know, to be fair, we can neither confirm or deny.

719
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: They might have just send it up for fun. I

720
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: don't know, that's right. The missions are still classified the

721
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: X thirty seven B that's what we're talking about. So

722
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: those two things will be those two things will be different.

723
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: There will be new frontiers in the war. Resource wars

724
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: are something that we've also talked about, the idea of

725
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: a war over water. Fears over diminishing resources, which in

726
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: several cases are completely valid and in other cases are

727
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: a little exaggerated, may likely spark regional conflicts that later

728
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: because of alliances, lead to global conflicts. You also got

729
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: trade connections, um you know, usually see this kind of

730
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: conflict as in sanctions that are levied by one country

731
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: or one group on another country. Trade is a huge

732
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: factor for the US, specifically in China, specifically in Russia,

733
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: really any if you're a country in the world right now,

734
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: trade is a huge deal because if we are such

735
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: a global environment now that pretty much you can't exist

736
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: if you're trying to be in so insular that you

737
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: have no imports exports right right, And so this is

738
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: a mitigating factor for war, but it's probably not enough too.

739
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: While it lowers the possibility of awards, probably not enough

740
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: to absolutely rule out the possibility. There's another thing here,

741
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: and this is it's this is just my opinion. This

742
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: is the most troubling of the newer factors, and that

743
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: is the significant influence of non state actors in a

744
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: very specific way. And we're talking about winning a terrible

745
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: lottery here. This is not a very likely thing. But

746
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: what do we mean by non state actors. Well, a

747
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: state actor would be the country you live in. In

748
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: the international sphere, uh So the non state actors would

749
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: be institutions that are not necessarily a state. So for instance,

750
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: the i m F, the International Monetary Fund is an institution.

751
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: Uh The Vaticans a little bit different because it is

752
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: its own it does have its own country. So let's

753
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: just say, um, let's the International Order of Generic Religion

754
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: or something like that with some just something like that.

755
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: And then there of course are gigantic corporations company right,

756
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: which was the ultimate force behind the overthrow of the

757
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: democratically elected government of Guatemala n here, and which is

758
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: also the same year that Stalin gave quote unquote gave

759
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: crimea to praying because it was originally Russian territory. Uh So,

760
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: the the last actor here, which is one of the

761
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: most dangerous, is the idea of terrorists. Here's what is

762
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: different about this current situation With the advent of nuclear weapons, right,

763
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: we know that it is possible for a relatively small

764
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: group of people to detonate something, and once that happens,

765
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff flies out the window. There there

766
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: are countries that have, depending upon the circumstances, there are

767
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: countries that have immediate countermeasures that go into effect, and

768
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: once that happens, it's it's likely it's very much possible

769
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: that those countermeasures would trigger other countermeasures from other countries

770
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: and then there would be a war. So this to

771
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: me is the most frightening thing. What happens if a

772
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: if a terrorist group somehow gets a whole of a

773
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: nuclear weapon from country like Pakistan, right, or or steal

774
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: something from some other nuclear arsenal and then deploys it. Right.

775
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: What what happens then, because governments will have to react. Well, yeah,

776
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: and there would be unless unless an intelligence agency or

777
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: some other government agency from whatever country the attack occurred

778
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: was following and had already a lead and an understanding

779
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: that this X group has a nuclear weapon and is

780
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: determined to use it. You have no idea who detonated

781
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: that thing, right, And and if that's the case, that

782
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: to me is the worst case scenario. Yeah, because then

783
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: it could also be a government pretending that a terrorists

784
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: did it. Uh. And that's that's sort of that's that's

785
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: part of the problem because depending on where that kind

786
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: of thing would go, Uh, it could, it could very ly,

787
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: with very little time passing, become a global conflict. So

788
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: we've talked about some of this. We've talked about a

789
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: lot about the speculation, right, and we've talked a lot

790
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: about the current situations. And those are kind of high

791
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: level looks. But now let's look at the stuff they

792
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: don't want you to know. So we know that there

793
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: are all sorts of conspiratorial theories about this stuff. For instance,

794
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: and this is not even a conspiracy, This is not speculations,

795
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: just true. Some officials in various countries want war. You

796
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: can read Western economists arguing that war is a solution

797
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: to domestic financial woes or economic woes. Uh. And that

798
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, of course, reminded you and me of uh

799
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Smedley Butler and John Perkins, the author of Confessions of

800
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: an Economic hit Man, which is which is a good

801
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: read to check out. And if you don't know, yeah, oh,

802
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: but fascinating. And if you if you don't know who

803
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: Smedley Butler is, you should by now kids learn about

804
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: Smedley Butler. He's fascinating. Just s M. E. D l E. Y. Yes.

805
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: You can find our episode on him by checking by

806
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: checking online for the business plot which was a air

807
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: alleged Yeah, which is an alleged UH plot by UH

808
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: some of the elites of the U S to overthrow

809
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: the US government and replace them with a fascist regime. Yeah.

810
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: Crazy story, really interesting. Okay, So another thing, just speaking

811
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: of people trying to take over banking, war and banking.

812
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: It's no secret that war can be massively profitable, just

813
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: like we stayed in the last one. But do the

814
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: bank perhaps had a hand in any of this right?

815
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: And this is something that we hear often, the idea

816
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: that high level investors and banking gurus know what will

817
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: happen geopolitically before the average person doesn't, even before some

818
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: governments do, or the banks will work to advance their

819
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: interest at the cost of the common people by perhaps

820
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: triggering a war, perhaps playing both sides of the conflict,

821
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: something like that, manipulating the manipulating the environment so as

822
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: to maximize profits. So perhaps they can go in and

823
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, start a central banking a let's say,

824
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: a country that hasn't had one before. Right, So, when uh,

825
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: the rebels that overthrew Gaddafi and Libya, when they set

826
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: up when they when they had completely overthrow, one of

827
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: the very first things they did was set up a

828
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: central bank. And for people who believe the these sorts

829
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories, that is considered proof of proof of

830
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: some higher involvement. However, also, you know, for many countries

831
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: a central bank is a necessary thing for international trade.

832
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: It seems as though it really is. Uh. There are

833
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: only a few countries left that do not have a

834
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: central banking system or do not have are not part

835
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: of the larger interaction. Right, So this is interesting. I'd

836
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: love to hear what people think about that. The other

837
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: big one, of course, is the petro dollar argument, the

838
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: idea that because the US dollars the de facto currency

839
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 1: of the oil trade, that when countries don't play ball

840
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: or want to sell uh oil or petrol, patrolling products

841
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: in something other than the US dollar, that they get

842
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: removed right to the top. You're on our short list. Yeah, well,

843
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: and it might not be that way for long, with

844
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: the bricks countries setting up their own currency possibly. Yeah,

845
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: and the bricks countries would be Brazil, Russia, India, China.

846
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: That brick is an acronym that commonly describes countries that

847
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: are thought to be ascendant in the world order in general. Right,

848
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: uh so this this is another thing we could do

849
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: an entire episode on, But you know, I think we've

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Speaker 1: I think we've got to go Actually, oh man, there's

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Speaker 1: so much stuff to talk about that we didn't even

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Speaker 1: get to. We might might have to come back to

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Speaker 1: this one. Yeahs again Petro Dollar, I love. I wish

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Speaker 1: we could go back and do Smantly Butler again, but

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Speaker 1: we are gonna have to get out of here. We

856
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Speaker 1: hope that you guys enjoyed this episode. We'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear what you think about the current lay of the land.

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Speaker 1: Do you think a world war is likely? Do you

859
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Speaker 1: think it's unlikely it's just a bunch of fearmongering. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that there is a conspiracy a footo? And

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Speaker 1: let's also mention One of the more popular conspiracies in

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Speaker 1: Russia is that the CIA was behind uh instability in Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they were been I don't know, man. Well, as

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Speaker 1: you can imagine, there are there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories that are not that friendly to the US

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Speaker 1: in places like Russia. Oh sure, because we kind of

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Speaker 1: have a history of doing some things, right, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: vice vice versa. Right, absolutely, so we have to go.

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Speaker 1: But there is one last thing we're gonna do. This

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Speaker 1: episode is is a little longer than norm Wait do

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Speaker 1: you hear that? Okay, it's not just me. No, No, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not just me. Alright. Well, if we're both hearing

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00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: that noise, it can only mean one thing. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: it's time for a moment with Nolan. Ya. How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Am I here? Yeah? You're here? Okay, This this this

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00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: episode guy kind of long for us. So it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty big, big topic and there's a lot of like

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00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: conceptual thought that goes into it, so you know, a

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: lot of like weighing a lot of possibilities. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can understand why it would be a bit uh

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00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: a bit my to to bite off. Yeah, we were

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00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: a little ambitious. I I just hope, I hope it

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Speaker 1: wasn't boring, you know, No, No, it wasn't boring in fact.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure you guys have heard of this. Have

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Speaker 1: you heard of the site? Godlike Productions? So yeah, yeah,

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00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: Godlike Production. I just a friend of mine just told

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Speaker 1: me about it. So I was while you were going

888
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: through your stuffing it up and seeing if there are

889
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: any topics on there that I could, you know, talk about.

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Speaker 1: But it's a little much, it's a little dense. What

891
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: did what did you find? Well, the first one that

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Speaker 1: I found that that had an interesting headline was A

893
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: year of the Shark. Um, let's see, let me find it.

894
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: Is it talking about Shark Week? Yeah? Kind of. So

895
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Speaker 1: the headline for this post is something is coming and

896
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Speaker 1: it's posted by an anonymous coward says many may remember

897
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: the Summer of the Shark, and then this quote says

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00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: the Summer of the Shark refers to the coverage of

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Speaker 1: shark attacks by American news media in the summer of

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one. The sensationalist coverage of shark attacks

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00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: began early July, following the fourth of July week weekend

902
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Speaker 1: shark attack on eight year old Jesse Arbogas, etcetera. It says,

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Speaker 1: now the media is once again in a frenzy with

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Speaker 1: shark sightings. Be very careful. The sharks are being used

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Speaker 1: to distract from an event. Okay, I see kind of

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: like a diverting the news thing, which reminds me of

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Speaker 1: our suppressed Mikia. We just we just did that. Yeah. Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's another thing that's I should say in defense of

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Speaker 1: godlike productions. Anonymous coward is the generic name. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's a great idea. Whoever, it is funny

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00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: one time I posted on there and then that's when

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Speaker 1: I learned. I said, how am I an anonymous coward?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the uh, the godlike form is also one

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Speaker 1: of the first places I found out about the smiling

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00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: face killer theory. Did you hear that one? So this

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Speaker 1: is a controversial one. It's the idea that there is

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Speaker 1: a serial killer, a group of serial killers. They're drowning

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Speaker 1: young men uh around the US, and the official story

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Speaker 1: is that these are alcohol related drownings. So these guys

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Speaker 1: whore like college age, are going somewhere they're drinking, uh

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Speaker 1: and then they're walking out and boom, they fall into

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Speaker 1: a body of water and end up unfortunately drowning. But

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Speaker 1: there is there's an investigator who is a pro investigator

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: who believes that this is a murderer and for a

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Speaker 1: group or a group of murderers, based on what he

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Speaker 1: says is the use of like a graffiti smiley face

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Speaker 1: in the vicinity, which is very the styles of which

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Speaker 1: have varied widely. Right of the graffiti smiley face, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are way too many of them with the smiley

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Speaker 1: face or murders or deaths, let's say. Yeah. But also,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're looking for something, sure you're yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we're trying to keep this short. Have you guys

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Speaker 1: been following Have you guys been following the story about

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Speaker 1: the Watcher, the house, the film? No, there's this house?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, that like this family sold and then the

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Speaker 1: family that bought it all of a sudden started receiving these, uh,

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Speaker 1: very sinister letters from someone calling themselves the Watcher. And

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Speaker 1: when I've last read, there were only two letters. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've only read little bulleted kind of cut ups of

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Speaker 1: what you know, the contents of the letters were. But uh,

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Speaker 1: the this Watcher says that it's been in his family

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Speaker 1: for generations, and he's like, you know, his grandfather watched

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Speaker 1: it in the in the sixties and now it's his time.

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Speaker 1: And he refers to the person's children as young bloods

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Speaker 1: and today in the basement and you know, the first

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Speaker 1: to specific features of the house, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the comments on sites that it was on people are

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01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: like that sounds like the plot for like an episode

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01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: of like you know, Criminal Minds or something. It seems

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Speaker 1: like a really nice house too. The pictures so multi

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01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: multiple generations, people just staring at one person writing notes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then my favorite line though, is uh, have they

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Speaker 1: found what's in the walls yet? They will soon. It

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Speaker 1: just sounds like like a teenager someone with schizophrenia or something. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I see some of this. Okay, I am pleased to

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Speaker 1: know your names now. In the name of the young

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01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: Blood you have brought to me that I have been

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Speaker 1: put in charge of watching and waiting for its second coming. Wow,

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01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: this is this is very strange. Yeah, okay, so we

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Speaker 1: gotta go because I have to have to read up

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Speaker 1: on this. I would just say, you gotta for whoever's

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Speaker 1: doing that, get us sniper roost with a trank gun.

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Speaker 1: And just sit there, just pay somebody. Apparently they never

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Speaker 1: moved to the house, and they're suing the people that

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Speaker 1: they bought it from because they did not disclose that

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Speaker 1: it came with the came with stalker. Okay, alright, sorry strange. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna hopefully have an update on that a

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Speaker 1: little bit later in the future. In the meantime, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening, and uh do let us

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01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: know what we should be doing in e see and

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Speaker 1: what you think about the possibility of World War three.

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973
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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter. You can send us an email directly.

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