WEBVTT - NBA Futures Snake Draft | 2026

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<v Speaker 1>What these young bloods have to understand, that this game

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<v Speaker 1>has always been and will always be about buckets. Just

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<v Speaker 1>attack the basket.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it!

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<v Speaker 1>Stop it! Do it like that!

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<v Speaker 3>Oh!

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<v Speaker 2>With no regard for human life!

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<v Speaker 3>Bang!

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<v Speaker 4>Bang!

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot believe you've done it again!

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Buckets!

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<v Speaker 6>The NBA season is here. My name is Matt Moore.

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<v Speaker 6>This show is brought to you by DraftKings Sportsbook. The

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<v Speaker 6>NBA season is right around the corner. And to get

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<v Speaker 6>us started, I've got the whole crew with me. And

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to do an NBA Futures Draft. We're actually

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<v Speaker 6>going to go through. We've got categories. You have to

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<v Speaker 6>fill out your entire slate. There will be betrayals. There

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<v Speaker 6>will be objections. There will be Brief explanations because we

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<v Speaker 6>have to make this work inside of an hour. Because

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<v Speaker 6>Brian Fonseca needs to go draft Musa Diabate with the

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<v Speaker 6>first overall pick of his fantasy draft. We have a

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<v Speaker 6>lot to get to tonight. We're glad to have you

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<v Speaker 6>guys with us. Make sure if you're watching live on

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<v Speaker 6>free to agree or disagree with the picks. I would

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<v Speaker 6>love to hear what you guys think are the best

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<v Speaker 6>picks that are taken from a strategic standpoint of this.

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<v Speaker 6>And which are.

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<v Speaker 1>Which.

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<v Speaker 6>here are our contestants on tonight's draft. Myself, Matt Moore,

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<v Speaker 6>Brian Fonseca, Brandon Kravitz, BK, the man straight out of

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<v Speaker 6>a 1970s porn film, Joe Dallara, Michael Fiddle, and of course,

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<v Speaker 6>from Roto-Grinders, Jim Favreau. turvy i do want like that

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<v Speaker 6>joe is no longer wearing the robe that he was

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<v Speaker 6>wearing on the last episode that i did with him

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<v Speaker 6>which just frankly made me very uncomfortable i'm glad although

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<v Speaker 6>i will say his wife has assured me several times

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<v Speaker 6>that she enjoys this look that he is rocking so

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<v Speaker 6>i need to like just accept that i'm out of

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<v Speaker 6>touch with like current styles so good to see you

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<v Speaker 6>joe thanks.

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<v Speaker 7>I uh threw the robe in the laundry so.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay well now i'm uncomfortable again Win total, award, long shot, title,

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<v Speaker 6>and division. Those are our categories on the night. You

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<v Speaker 6>can see them on the board here at youtube.com slash

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<v Speaker 6>the action network. Win total, an award. You got to

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<v Speaker 6>go a long shot. I did plus 400 or longer

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<v Speaker 6>because that is actually a pretty long shot, but most

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<v Speaker 6>of the guys will go way longer than that. Title,

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<v Speaker 6>and then a division bet. You have to get through

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<v Speaker 6>all of them. in order to fill out your card.

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<v Speaker 6>We do have a snake draft. We're going to start

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<v Speaker 6>tonight with Brian Fonseca. Brian, you get first pick.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you want first?

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana Pacers to win the title at plus $ 4, 000. Woo!

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<v Speaker 3>Wow!

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<v Speaker 6>Coming out hot!

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<v Speaker 7>Is that your long shot or your title pick? That's

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<v Speaker 7>your title pick?

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<v Speaker 6>Is that your title pick or your long shot?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's my title pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt, where do I send in the chat about the

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<v Speaker 4>terrible draft picks?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, this number is too fucking low. Like, why are

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<v Speaker 8>they behind the Heat, the Cavs, and the Pistons? And

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<v Speaker 8>the Celtics, for that matter. Like, that just doesn't make

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<v Speaker 8>sense to me. I understand Tyrese Halliburton's coming back from

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<v Speaker 8>a devastating injury, but this team is good. Even their

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<v Speaker 8>win total is like 43.5. Like, I just don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 8>I know the East is deeper, better, but I think

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<v Speaker 8>the entire summer, like, I've just been staring at all

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<v Speaker 8>these Pacers numbers, and they're just too low. I just

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<v Speaker 8>think this team's going to be better than 43.5 or

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<v Speaker 8>is a legit contender and has one of the most seven,

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<v Speaker 8>eight meaningful players in basketball right now coming back into

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<v Speaker 8>their lineup. So, yeah, I'm going with Halliburton and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>going with the Pacers.

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<v Speaker 1>That was spicy.

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<v Speaker 3>You go ahead, Jim.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I give a chip.

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<v Speaker 4>But honestly, if you're going to play the Pacers, go

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<v Speaker 4>for the like shoot the moon. It's like if Halliburton

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<v Speaker 4>is back at Halliburton levels. I do think that like

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<v Speaker 4>we just saw the last time they were healthy, they

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<v Speaker 4>were there. in a game seven and could have won it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm low on the Pacers. So it was surprising.

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<v Speaker 7>It's surprising. I was like the first pick of this draft,

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<v Speaker 7>but listen, I fucking respect it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to start off with something boring, a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking wind total.

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<v Speaker 7>I love it. I'm so glad. I'm so nobody wants

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<v Speaker 7>to see.

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<v Speaker 8>Nobody wants to hear fucking warriors under 38 and a

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<v Speaker 8>half to start this pot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for the other pot.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, now I'm taking warriors under 38 and a half.

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<v Speaker 6>I get to be my turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead. Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>Finseca starts off red hot with this one. Pacers, it's

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<v Speaker 6>40 to 1. I got the number right?

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<v Speaker 2>40 to 1. Still available. Multiple books.

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<v Speaker 7>I bet it will be.

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<v Speaker 6>All right. Shockingly, nobody is like, oh, man, that was

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<v Speaker 6>on my board. All right, Brandon Kravitz, your number one

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<v Speaker 6>overall pick.

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<v Speaker 3>This is definitely how the Avengers felt when they descended

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<v Speaker 3>on New York.

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<v Speaker 2>This feeling right here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is great.

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<v Speaker 7>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I am going of I'm going to go with

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<v Speaker 3>a different strategy where my first pick is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be maybe not the bet I believe in the most,

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<v Speaker 3>but the one that I think is going to get

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<v Speaker 3>sniped the most. I'm going to go with the Utah

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<v Speaker 3>Jazz over 36 and a half wins. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>trendiest pick on the planet right now. I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of us on this podcast channel have this team circled.

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<v Speaker 3>and had them circled at the end of last year

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<v Speaker 3>with 50% less talent. Will Hardy having to call off

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<v Speaker 3>the dogs at halftime because these guys were overperforming when

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA still allowed tanking a full season of a

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<v Speaker 3>full effort. Darren Peterson added to the mix in a

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<v Speaker 3>diminished Western conference. They're going to be within striking distance

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<v Speaker 3>of the playoffs, which by the way, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to bet that plus one 50, not a bad one either,

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<v Speaker 3>but I like them over 36 and a half wins.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take it before anybody else can.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 7>That should have been my first. Yeah, that really should

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<v Speaker 7>have been 1-1, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it.

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<v Speaker 6>I was so close. I'm trying to type and fill

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<v Speaker 6>in the graph.

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<v Speaker 1>You were not close. We're six minutes into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We just started.

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<v Speaker 6>Almost got there.

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<v Speaker 7>So close.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the most common one, I don't know that

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<v Speaker 6>that's the most common one with this group. It is

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<v Speaker 6>a very trendy pick. So I understand why you went

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<v Speaker 6>ahead and grabbed it, because I do think that the

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<v Speaker 6>Utah are going to be a trendy team this year

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<v Speaker 6>for sure. So Fonseca Pacers 40 to one. Kravis takes

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<v Speaker 6>jazz over 37 and a half is best in market

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<v Speaker 6>that I saw right now. OK, back to the list.

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<v Speaker 6>Joe DeLera, you're up next. Who do you want?

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm going to do something naturally, like a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit unconventional here. Um, and by that, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to take a title pick, but I'm not going

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<v Speaker 5>to take exactly the title pick. Um, so right now

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<v Speaker 5>we have in something that I think is a pretty

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<v Speaker 5>good boost for this title odds. So I like the

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<v Speaker 5>Oklahoma city thunder to get back to the title and

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<v Speaker 5>I like them to win the title. I don't really

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<v Speaker 5>like their odds though. I think their odds are like

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit shorter than what I would typically want.

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<v Speaker 5>DraftKings has a special. And if you go to DraftKings

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<v Speaker 5>and you go, uh, to like their team specials, You

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<v Speaker 5>go all the way to the right, first team, Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 5>City Thunder. And you can juice it a little bit,

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<v Speaker 5>like add an extra variable here. And it's for Shea

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<v Speaker 5>to average 30 points per game and for them to

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<v Speaker 5>win the title. And it bumps the odds all the

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<v Speaker 5>way up to plus 450. And that's something that I'm

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<v Speaker 5>highly interested in. Shea has averaged 30 points per game

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<v Speaker 5>in each of the last four seasons. And he's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of done it for the most part by margin. The

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<v Speaker 5>one season he had 30.1, but he's at 31.4, 30.1, 32.7, 31.1. Um,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm more than willing to take on that little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of extra risk to bump this up from, uh, what's

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<v Speaker 5>their market price right now to win the, to win

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<v Speaker 5>the finals.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, I was like appalled. I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't, I can't get into that, but, uh, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>bumping it from plus two 70 all the way up

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<v Speaker 5>to plus four 50 on shade average 30 points per

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<v Speaker 5>game this season. So I really like that. He's currently

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<v Speaker 5>listed to average 30 points per game. He's minus 310.

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<v Speaker 5>So I am more than willing to take this extra

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<v Speaker 5>risk here to bump this up to plus 450. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>if he doesn't average 30 points per game, I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to be like a little bit confused about what's going

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<v Speaker 5>on in Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 7>So and I probably won't like them to win the

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<v Speaker 7>title either.

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<v Speaker 5>So shade average 30 points per game. Oklahoma City Thunder

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<v Speaker 5>to win the championship plus 450 as my title pick.

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<v Speaker 6>So you want this logged as your title and not

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<v Speaker 6>a long shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh no, we have something way longer than four to one.

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<v Speaker 6>This is some, this is some Brandon Anderson breaking rules

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<v Speaker 6>bullshit right here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a sick pick.

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<v Speaker 7>This is so, I love this.

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<v Speaker 6>My sliding in the specials to get your title pick in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>I got to respect it. We say to shop around

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<v Speaker 6>and Joe Dallara did in fact shop around at DK.

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<v Speaker 6>The crown is yours.

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<v Speaker 7>Are the thunders still on the board now? What do

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<v Speaker 7>you mean? Like can someone take OKC title? Then you're

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<v Speaker 7>just taking a worse pick than me. So yeah, go

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<v Speaker 7>for it. It'll be good for the people.

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<v Speaker 6>You could still take the straight plus 270. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll allow that.

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<v Speaker 1>OK.

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<v Speaker 6>Damn, Joe.

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<v Speaker 7>Inventive.

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<v Speaker 6>I like it.

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<v Speaker 7>Started off hot.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Fiddle.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you got?

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<v Speaker 1>Cooking? So I think like Brandon, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was going to come in and say, here's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be some CLV on a win total and just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, drive for show and putt for dough, but

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<v Speaker 1>game theory here says there's like 12 win totals I'm

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with, so I'm not rushing to the win total board.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect BK's jazz pick, but I'm not rushing to

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<v Speaker 1>the win total board. The thing I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get sniped, I'm going to put this in

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<v Speaker 1>my awards, and it's going to be Cooper Flagg, most

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<v Speaker 1>improved player, 80-1. And my question for this bet is,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a chance that Cooper Flagg And what's the probability?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it greater than 1.5% or 2% that Cooper Flagg's

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<v Speaker 1>just already running in Defensive Player of the Year? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect him to win, but going to get votes

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<v Speaker 1>in Defensive Player of the Year? And is he averaging

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<v Speaker 1>24 or more points and 8 or more rebounds and

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<v Speaker 1>3.5 stocks between this? And we're like, he's already an

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<v Speaker 1>outside MVP candidate, and he's a no-brainer all-star, all-star starter.

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<v Speaker 1>So at 80-1, they say.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't really let a second year player get most improved.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of the trope around this award that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you expect people to improve in their second year. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>at 80 to one, like it's already happened twice since

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<v Speaker 1>the turn of the 21st century. Gilbert Arenas did it

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<v Speaker 1>in 2002. Monte Ellis did it. in 2006. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>stopping Cooper flag from being able to do that and

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<v Speaker 1>going from a rookie year where he was in the

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<v Speaker 1>race with con canipple of who's going to win rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, some injuries, whatever to the next year

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<v Speaker 1>of like, holy shit, this guy's a potential MVP candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>a potential defensive of the year player candidate, a all-star

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<v Speaker 1>starter every year for the foreseeable future. And he's the

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<v Speaker 1>most improved player. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>I respect it. I think I liked the, the idea

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<v Speaker 6>behind it. I now kind of want him to win

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<v Speaker 6>MIP and Conn Knipple to also go off and then

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<v Speaker 6>Conn Knipple leave for most of the year and then

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<v Speaker 6>him lose again at Cooper flag. Like that's kind of

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<v Speaker 6>what I want is like just every single time that,

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<v Speaker 6>that I want Conn Knipple to be the Aaron Burr,

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<v Speaker 6>the flags, Alexander Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Fiddle with an 80 to one was not on my

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<v Speaker 4>board and I happen to be, and not even in

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<v Speaker 4>the long shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a 90 to one stored up. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a 200 to one stored up. We're swinging for fences.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at you.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm proud of you.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for understanding the assignment, Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>The win total, I'll win. Have no fear. I'll win

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<v Speaker 1>the win total that I choose. But let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>I can get one of these other ones as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>Jim Turvey, your first bet. Just review the board real quick.

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<v Speaker 6>We got Pacers 40 to one from Fonseca. Jazz over

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<v Speaker 6>37 and a half from Kravitz. OKC title and Shea

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<v Speaker 6>30 plus from Joe. And Fiddle's flag most improved player

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<v Speaker 6>at 80 to one. Jim, what's your first pick?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, where did Fiddle drop the game theory bomb?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I was going to have to go with

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<v Speaker 4>a category here, but even though I'm with you, Fiddle,

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<v Speaker 4>that there's a lot of win totals I like, I

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<v Speaker 4>actually am seeing the board appear and maybe seeing, being

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<v Speaker 4>able to get some other stuff based on bets or

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<v Speaker 4>the people.

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<v Speaker 7>So I am going to go to win total. I

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<v Speaker 7>am going to go to the one that was referenced

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<v Speaker 7>before the show. I think, actually, no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Curveball, I'm going to do Philadelphia under. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about a different one. I'm just going to lock in

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<v Speaker 4>what I think is the safest one, 76ers under. um

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<v Speaker 4>it's a year i like unders in general more already

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<v Speaker 4>injuries stacking up there their front court they could be

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<v Speaker 4>starting dominic barlow on at center on on opening night

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<v Speaker 4>it could be a disaster there's enough talent there to

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<v Speaker 4>drag them into the postseason picture but i don't see

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<v Speaker 4>this team getting 50 wins i just don't think that's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be a priority for them so i will take

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<v Speaker 4>the 76ers under as my win total.

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<v Speaker 6>Bet i've got them at 15 and a half are

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<v Speaker 6>you good with that yeah even better Okay, that's the

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<v Speaker 6>50 and a half. We'll get you on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I give a slight objection to this? Yes. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't disagree with the bet. If I had to choose,

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<v Speaker 1>I would take the under. But there's just no way

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<v Speaker 1>that I personally could put a dollar on a LeBron

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<v Speaker 1>season under. I'm just too beholden to... Come on. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to root for LeBron and his... in his waning season. I,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's, well, this is the last year. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>one more year after that, I could never sign up

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<v Speaker 1>to ride a full season. LeBron under no way.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a great, I wonder what he is. His win

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<v Speaker 4>total over unders are the last like 10 years.

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<v Speaker 7>It's bad. I would guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess.

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<v Speaker 7>It's probably always bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause it definitely went over last year with the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 7>He did.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It went over last year, but he didn't play some

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<v Speaker 6>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>He also had a negative plus minus.

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<v Speaker 6>So, uh, there's a movie called, cocktail that i like

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<v Speaker 6>very much in the 80s with tom cruise and there's

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<v Speaker 6>a line in it that i absolutely adore which is

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<v Speaker 6>he's talking to a girl that and the breakup is

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<v Speaker 6>going badly and he says of course it ended badly

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<v Speaker 6>if it wasn't if it didn't end badly it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>end i just want to point that out with lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>Apropos of nothing to do with the sixers father time

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<v Speaker 1>and mother nature are the two undefeated there.

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<v Speaker 6>You go uh okay bars uh my first pick is

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<v Speaker 6>going to be I am going to play safe and

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<v Speaker 6>conservative here, and I'm going to take the one that

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<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure Jim was going to take. I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to take the Rockets over 48 and a half. That's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be mine. I think 47 and a half

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<v Speaker 6>is the best in the market. Talked about this over

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<v Speaker 6>and over and over again. I like it the more

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<v Speaker 6>I've thought about it. To be quite honest with you,

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<v Speaker 6>I was thinking through all this and then had the

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<v Speaker 6>realization when he played the other night, like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and they got Marcus Smart. That helps. That just helps. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe it's bad because that means they won't play Reed

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<v Speaker 6>Shepard because E-Mame Doka hates that kid. But I just

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<v Speaker 6>think there's too much. If you want to know why,

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<v Speaker 6>you can listen to any of the podcasts that we've

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<v Speaker 6>done on the future stuff. Rockets Over is, I just

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<v Speaker 6>think it's a really good bet. And I just feel

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<v Speaker 6>like this was very badly mispriced in the market. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm back to back. So I've got to go again.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm going to turn. I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 6>my long shot yet. Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to keep it simple because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>extrapolate on this and try and bank on getting it.

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<v Speaker 6>If I'm right, I'm really right because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>take Rockets division plus 650. I think if they're within range,

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<v Speaker 6>the idea here is pretty simple. If the Spurs regress,

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<v Speaker 6>a regression from 60 is greater than a regression from 55.

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<v Speaker 6>It's greater than a regression from 50. So if the

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<v Speaker 6>regression from 60 happens, you're talking about, okay, I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's probably more than three wins. So we're talking more

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<v Speaker 6>about 55, and I've got the Rockets projected at 55 wins.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm going to go ahead and take Rockets to

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<v Speaker 6>win the Southwest division, beating the San Antonio Spurs for

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<v Speaker 6>it at plus 650. That's going to be mine. Any

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<v Speaker 6>objections to my bet?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was one of the three best division

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<v Speaker 1>bets possible off the board.

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<v Speaker 7>It was my third as well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Jim, back to you. We're doing Snake. Back to

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<v Speaker 6>you for pick two.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go back to division as well. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>debating between two, one of which because I'm not 100%

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<v Speaker 4>certain on numbers. So someone call me out if this

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<v Speaker 4>is a too stale a number. Lakers division minus 130. Fiddle,

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<v Speaker 4>you got a screen up?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we good there?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's about right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pull it up for you right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I'll get the mini cap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's minus 120s out there. But yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 1>find minus 130 as well. Okay, perfect.

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<v Speaker 7>So Lakers, the rest of this division is just trash.

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<v Speaker 4>Even if you aren't on Lakers Island with me, you

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<v Speaker 4>have to be on the Suns, the Kings, the Clippers,

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<v Speaker 4>or a team that I'm literally forgetting right now.

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<v Speaker 7>The Warriors? The Warriors, who I'm all the way out on.

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<v Speaker 7>At least Porzingis doesn't have AIDS, like you said today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, Lakers minus one 20 division. I, I will, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just going to leave that there and, and throw it

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<v Speaker 4>back to Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>That was wild. Keep going.

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<v Speaker 6>Just keep going. Keep going.

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<v Speaker 7>Lakers minus one 20 division.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Hope I hope we're saying this is okay. I genuinely

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<v Speaker 6>hope we're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too, but why did he feel the need to

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<v Speaker 2>put in the last sentence?

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<v Speaker 6>Because that's like how many people I will tell you

0:18:08.710 --> 0:18:11.940
<v Speaker 6>people legitimately were asking about that. Yeah. People have legitimately

0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.690
<v Speaker 6>have legitimately been speculating that he has those conditions. which

0:18:15.910 --> 0:18:19.490
<v Speaker 6>is because people are really, really awful.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, he refuted it by the way, for those that

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen that.

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<v Speaker 7>That was the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. All right.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, here's the current board. Jim takes division for the

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<v Speaker 6>Lakers at minus one 30. Um, look, it's a terrible division.

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<v Speaker 6>I have them winning the division and I have them

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<v Speaker 6>at 38 wins. So yeah. So that's how bad that,

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<v Speaker 6>that division is a fiddle back to you. Where do

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<v Speaker 6>you want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're getting a run on the division odds right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's probably the hardest market of these five to

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<v Speaker 1>find value. I'll go with the Atlanta Hawks division plus

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<v Speaker 1>275 in market. They're paired up with the Hornets, who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm personally on a win total under not going to

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<v Speaker 1>give it out here. Magic with a new coach and

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<v Speaker 1>endless injury history. Just ask Brandon about it. Miami Heat

0:19:08.660 --> 0:19:12.410
<v Speaker 1>integrating Giannis and Bam and trying to keep those guys healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Wizards, who let's see what they can do.

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<v Speaker 1>They might be frisky, but not division winners. The Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Hawks went on this surge towards the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>last season. And I think a lot of it was

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<v Speaker 1>thought to be kind of fraudulent because they played weak

0:19:26.580 --> 0:19:30.880
<v Speaker 1>teams in that run. And I actually think that's not

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<v Speaker 1>true to actually what they did this summer, bringing in

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<v Speaker 1>Lou Dort, bringing in Aaron Wiggins. I'm totally fine with

0:19:37.910 --> 0:19:41.050
<v Speaker 1>the combination of bigs that they have in Okongwu and Landale.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think this team has a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 1>to play, and that'll make them really match-up proof in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these games. They're the only team that

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<v Speaker 1>took two games off the Knicks all playoffs. So I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think let's not sleep on the Atlanta Hawks. Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Hawks division plus 275 is going to be my choice.

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<v Speaker 6>I like this one a lot. I think that this

0:20:03.250 --> 0:20:04.770
<v Speaker 6>has a lot of value. I think betting on the

0:20:04.810 --> 0:20:07.930
<v Speaker 6>instability of the Heat is probably a sound proposition for preseason.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a terrifying prospect, but I've been thinking a lot

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<v Speaker 6>about today about like, like, look, if you're, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the way to make money is to scare money. Don't

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<v Speaker 6>make money.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just think that if you're going to, if

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to bank on, if you have any question

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<v Speaker 6>at all about Miami, this division is being treated as

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<v Speaker 6>if it's fate accompli. So I just think that there's a,

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<v Speaker 6>there's an opportunity here for Atlanta with very solid coaching,

0:20:27.100 --> 0:20:30.300
<v Speaker 6>more continuity, all of those types of things. So I

0:20:30.300 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 6>think there's a good opportunity and the dog agrees too.

0:20:32.220 --> 0:20:35.330
<v Speaker 6>So that's a, that's a win as well. All right.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's head back. To Joe DeLera. Joe, what do you

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.700
<v Speaker 6>got for us now? I am going to warn you.

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<v Speaker 6>I will allow one more DK special before I start

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<v Speaker 6>to get itchy.

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<v Speaker 7>So I am going to use DraftKings. Oh, no, it moved.

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<v Speaker 3>Never mind. Not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 7>I am going to do a bet here because I

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<v Speaker 7>have to.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't going to be a normal one until whatever happened.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>It actually, it wasn't going to be, it wasn't going

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<v Speaker 5>to be as normal.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do a bet here is officially the one.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm debating a little bit of which, which market I

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to, wanted to kind.

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<v Speaker 7>Of nail down here.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm going to actually go to, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>go to division as well. And I'm going to go

0:21:25.250 --> 0:21:27.689
<v Speaker 5>heads up a little bit with fiddle here. I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to grab the Orlando magic to win the division.

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<v Speaker 7>Um, I, I kind of like them.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're a little bit underpriced right now. Um,

0:21:35.940 --> 0:21:38.609
<v Speaker 5>they're plus two 75. Uh, so kind of like right

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<v Speaker 5>in line with the Hawks. Um, I, it's a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more of, I think the lineups were actually pretty

0:21:42.990 --> 0:21:45.889
<v Speaker 5>good when they had their main.

0:21:45.730 --> 0:21:49.090
<v Speaker 7>Five players play together. It just, they just never played together.

0:21:49.470 --> 0:21:51.420
<v Speaker 5>So it's more of an issue in terms of the health,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think from a continuity perspective, I liked the

0:21:54.220 --> 0:21:55.620
<v Speaker 5>fact they got a new coach. So I'm not really

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.710
<v Speaker 5>worried about that. I think that's a good thing. But

0:21:57.730 --> 0:21:59.710
<v Speaker 5>I think the personnel, like the players, are going to

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<v Speaker 5>be comfortable playing with each other.

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<v Speaker 7>They know each other. They've now been practicing with each other.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that Desmond Bain had some growing pains

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<v Speaker 5>with them last year. I think that'll be ironed out

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit. But the biggest thing is really this

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<v Speaker 5>is a bet on health and the fact that they

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<v Speaker 5>just weren't really involved in the postseason at all. They're

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 5>a team that's going to be healthy. They are a

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<v Speaker 5>team that, presumably anyway, they're a team that has basically

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<v Speaker 5>gotten the entire summer off and extended summer Um, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think they, they know that they had a missed

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity there.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think when you look at Franz and Paolo, especially.

0:22:33.170 --> 0:22:36.429
<v Speaker 5>They they're a duo where it doesn't seem like, you know,

0:22:36.470 --> 0:22:38.790
<v Speaker 5>it seems like the vibes are decent between them, but

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<v Speaker 5>I think if something doesn't happen this year, one of

0:22:40.890 --> 0:22:43.350
<v Speaker 5>them's probably gone. I don't know how much longer you

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<v Speaker 5>can really kind of do this. So I think that

0:22:45.430 --> 0:22:47.909
<v Speaker 5>they have, um, definitely a path and they definitely have

0:22:47.930 --> 0:22:50.430
<v Speaker 5>a lot of talent. So I think a plus two 75,

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<v Speaker 5>considering I'm a little.

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<v Speaker 7>Bit lower on Miami.

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<v Speaker 5>This season as well I think this is a pretty

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<v Speaker 5>good opportunity for Orlando a team that we all really

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<v Speaker 5>did like last year and you know they just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of never managed to get up to expectations because.

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<v Speaker 6>Of injuries I don't mind this at all either you

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<v Speaker 6>know for the same reasons I like the Hawks pick

0:23:07.530 --> 0:23:09.780
<v Speaker 6>I don't have a strong feeling on Hawks versus Magic

0:23:10.210 --> 0:23:11.470
<v Speaker 6>I think with the Hawks it's like look at the

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.260
<v Speaker 6>last four months of the season with the Magic it's

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.379
<v Speaker 6>hey there's a coach that might actually get them to

0:23:15.420 --> 0:23:17.660
<v Speaker 6>put the little ball inside the little net thingy that

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 6>would be nice one time I'm watching the magic and preseason.

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<v Speaker 6>I like a lot of their scheme and structure. Wendell

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:24.939
<v Speaker 6>Carr jr. Is spacing a lot more to the corner

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 6>and then crashing on the inside. They're using Franz Wagner

0:23:27.660 --> 0:23:30.770
<v Speaker 6>as primary initiator, maybe getting Palo Banquero off the ball

0:23:30.790 --> 0:23:32.550
<v Speaker 6>a little bit and using him as tip of the spear.

0:23:32.590 --> 0:23:34.590
<v Speaker 6>That might work a little bit better for the offensive side.

0:23:34.609 --> 0:23:36.869
<v Speaker 6>You know, we'll see what the defensive side of this

0:23:37.070 --> 0:23:39.470
<v Speaker 6>looks like and how that kind of works out. They're

0:23:39.510 --> 0:23:42.929
<v Speaker 6>having the Silva shoot in volume on threes. So it

0:23:42.950 --> 0:23:45.109
<v Speaker 6>does look like they're adjusting some of the personnel stuff.

0:23:45.550 --> 0:23:47.609
<v Speaker 6>I think there's, I think these are, these are two

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<v Speaker 6>good coaches. Um, I think Swinney's good.

0:23:50.940 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. He's good.

0:23:51.859 --> 0:23:54.860
<v Speaker 6>I know that Snyder is, um, I think it's worth

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.330
<v Speaker 6>the upside pick on it. So I don't necessarily mind it.

0:23:57.380 --> 0:24:00.780
<v Speaker 6>So plus two 75 for fiddle going head to head with, uh,

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 6>or going ahead with Dallara Dallara plus two 75 on

0:24:03.740 --> 0:24:05.740
<v Speaker 6>the magic going head to head with fiddle Hawks plus

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.460
<v Speaker 6>two 75 BK back to you, buddy. What do you

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:09.140
<v Speaker 6>want for your second pick?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would assume that you guys would think I'm

0:24:12.670 --> 0:24:16.450
<v Speaker 3>upset about the Magic Division odds getting sniped from me.

0:24:16.470 --> 0:24:18.169
<v Speaker 2>I had to do it.

0:24:18.190 --> 0:24:19.970
<v Speaker 7>I knew you were up.

0:24:20.869 --> 0:24:23.790
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm going to do the same thing to the

0:24:23.810 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 3>guy that's in front of me or behind me here.

0:24:27.369 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 3>And I guess we'll just mop up the remainder of

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:33.620
<v Speaker 3>the division. I like the Hornets 9-1 to win the Southeast.

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Woo! This is awesome.

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 3>We got a Southeast run going on here.

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<v Speaker 5>Can we get a bet on if any of these

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.369
<v Speaker 5>teams will be outside of the play-in tournament, like in

0:24:44.390 --> 0:24:46.389
<v Speaker 5>the top six?

0:24:46.510 --> 0:24:49.570
<v Speaker 6>Brian Fonseca has the ability to do the funniest thing

0:24:49.650 --> 0:24:53.670
<v Speaker 6>possible next. But BK, explain the Hornets real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 3>I, like the rest of you, find value on this

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 3>division because I'm lower on the Miami Heat than what

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.020
<v Speaker 3>the general public would be. I think all of these teams,

0:25:05.260 --> 0:25:09.290
<v Speaker 3>Hornets included, with the Hawks, the Magic, and the Miami Heat,

0:25:09.330 --> 0:25:12.129
<v Speaker 3>are going to be bunched up. So give me the

0:25:12.250 --> 0:25:17.010
<v Speaker 3>longest realistic odds to win it. I genuinely don't understand

0:25:17.670 --> 0:25:21.650
<v Speaker 3>why the Magic are 275 and the Hornets are 9-1.

0:25:21.690 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 3>It should be much tighter than that. I don't mind

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 3>the magic bet from the prediction perspective. I hate the price.

0:25:29.859 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 3>I like the moves that the Hornets made. Nas Reed,

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.859
<v Speaker 3>Grayson Allen. I think they matured a lot as a

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 3>group last year. They're freed from the shackles of having

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 3>to play lamello ball basketball. This is a serious team

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.940
<v Speaker 3>with elite coaching. They got hot late last year. If

0:25:44.980 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 3>they're able to start the season that way, they're going

0:25:48.100 --> 0:25:50.620
<v Speaker 3>to have a nice little runway here to at least

0:25:50.660 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 3>be in this race at the end with a nice

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 3>nine to one ticket.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think you're going to be freed from

0:25:55.490 --> 0:25:59.030
<v Speaker 4>the shackles of lamello basketball and scoring, like hitting like

0:25:59.030 --> 0:26:00.990
<v Speaker 4>10 less threes a game. I think he drove the

0:26:01.030 --> 0:26:04.650
<v Speaker 4>entire offense and I get the like serious, unserious argument,

0:26:05.210 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 4>but like they were pretty serious when they were like

0:26:07.500 --> 0:26:09.860
<v Speaker 4>a plus 14 net rating team in the second half.

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:11.340
<v Speaker 7>And I think he was a large part of that.

0:26:11.740 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 4>I also think that there's a chance that like the

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:15.780
<v Speaker 4>schemes that Charles Lee, I think Charles, he's a great coach,

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 4>but I think those schemes maybe get learned a little bit.

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:21.310
<v Speaker 4>So I'm lower on the Hornets. Um, But again, I

0:26:21.550 --> 0:26:24.550
<v Speaker 4>never mind these teams that you're not high on. I

0:26:24.590 --> 0:26:27.050
<v Speaker 4>actually don't mind taking the long shot. So I agree

0:26:27.070 --> 0:26:29.460
<v Speaker 4>that there's value somewhere in that division, and it would

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.700
<v Speaker 4>be really funny if Brian finished this out here.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, just to review this, we have gone five straight

0:26:36.470 --> 0:26:39.940
<v Speaker 6>division bets. So if you're... I hope nobody is like

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:41.689
<v Speaker 6>stepped away and was like, Oh, I can't wait until

0:26:41.710 --> 0:26:44.770
<v Speaker 6>they get to the division bets later. Uh, rockets plus

0:26:44.790 --> 0:26:47.210
<v Speaker 6>six 50 was mine. Lakers minus one 30 was turkeys

0:26:47.730 --> 0:26:50.510
<v Speaker 6>fiddle went with Hawks plus two 75. Delara went magic.

0:26:50.790 --> 0:26:53.550
<v Speaker 6>And then Kravitz went Hornets plus 900 on the back

0:26:53.590 --> 0:26:56.330
<v Speaker 6>of extreme Lamello ball. Hey, which I honestly, I kind

0:26:56.350 --> 0:27:00.890
<v Speaker 6>of respect. Um, all right, Brian, you have the ability

0:27:00.950 --> 0:27:02.770
<v Speaker 6>to do something extremely funny here.

0:27:03.450 --> 0:27:07.149
<v Speaker 2>The funniest thing possible. Um, would be for me to

0:27:07.190 --> 0:27:08.930
<v Speaker 2>just take the heat division right now.

0:27:09.630 --> 0:27:13.510
<v Speaker 1>Just a lengthy season long heat money line play from Brian.

0:27:15.890 --> 0:27:18.169
<v Speaker 7>It's even funnier with it being Brian for sure.

0:27:18.630 --> 0:27:23.230
<v Speaker 2>Unsurprisingly, I'm not as low on them as you guys are. Unsurprisingly.

0:27:24.010 --> 0:27:26.550
<v Speaker 8>Now I shouldn't take a division bet now because I

0:27:26.890 --> 0:27:28.550
<v Speaker 8>don't have to, since all of you.

0:27:28.510 --> 0:27:31.470
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much already did. I'm going to do that anyway.

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to the.

0:27:34.820 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>That was the funniest thing that I thought.

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 7>Still doing the funniest thing possible.

0:27:39.020 --> 0:27:41.369
<v Speaker 5>Brian being the stuff at the top of this draft

0:27:41.420 --> 0:27:42.920
<v Speaker 5>is the best thing that's ever happened.

0:27:42.980 --> 0:27:43.730
<v Speaker 7>We're on a roll.

0:27:43.869 --> 0:27:45.590
<v Speaker 2>We got to keep it going for the content. So

0:27:45.650 --> 0:27:48.010
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to the Atlantic division. I'm going to the

0:27:48.050 --> 0:27:50.930
<v Speaker 2>Atlantic division. I'm going to the Atlantic division. I'm taking

0:27:50.950 --> 0:27:54.170
<v Speaker 2>the Celtics plus 215. It's the right choice.

0:27:54.210 --> 0:27:55.070
<v Speaker 7>This was second on mine.

0:27:55.230 --> 0:27:55.350
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:55.390 --> 0:27:57.710
<v Speaker 7>Celtics plus 210.

0:27:59.140 --> 0:28:04.230
<v Speaker 2>There's a 2-15, 2-10. There's a 2-15 out there, though. Yeah.

0:28:06.350 --> 0:28:08.390
<v Speaker 8>I don't love them as a playoff team, I don't think,

0:28:08.450 --> 0:28:10.550
<v Speaker 8>but we'll see. I do like them as a regular

0:28:10.570 --> 0:28:13.690
<v Speaker 8>season team, though. I'm expecting the Sixers to be kind

0:28:13.710 --> 0:28:16.470
<v Speaker 8>of wonky again all year because they're always fucking like this.

0:28:18.420 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 8>I think people are getting a little bit too high

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 8>on the Raptors, although I feel better about them in

0:28:23.300 --> 0:28:26.139
<v Speaker 8>the playoffs, if Kawhi is healthy, of course, than in

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:26.899
<v Speaker 8>the regular season.

0:28:26.980 --> 0:28:27.820
<v Speaker 2>And then with the Knicks.

0:28:29.260 --> 0:28:31.300
<v Speaker 8>I think they're going to walk into 50 wins. I

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.900
<v Speaker 8>don't know how much more than that they're going to get.

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 8>I think it might just be capped at like 51

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 8>or something along those lines. I actually think Boston's regular

0:28:39.580 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 8>season upside is really good. I don't know if they'll

0:28:41.980 --> 0:28:44.910
<v Speaker 8>win a playoff series, but I think the regular season

0:28:44.950 --> 0:28:45.810
<v Speaker 8>upside is really good.

0:28:46.370 --> 0:28:48.770
<v Speaker 6>I like, I like, I like this bet. I'm going to,

0:28:48.850 --> 0:28:50.690
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, I'm going to have this in Raptors. I'm basically,

0:28:50.730 --> 0:28:55.190
<v Speaker 6>you know, fading Nick Sixers, um, and that's obviously, but I,

0:28:55.530 --> 0:28:57.410
<v Speaker 6>I like this bet at plus two 50. I still

0:28:57.430 --> 0:28:57.910
<v Speaker 6>think there's value.

0:28:57.950 --> 0:29:00.190
<v Speaker 8>So instead of the heat, me of all people take

0:29:00.210 --> 0:29:01.430
<v Speaker 8>the Celtics at the end.

0:29:01.470 --> 0:29:03.470
<v Speaker 6>That's pretty great too, is that you get to every

0:29:03.510 --> 0:29:05.150
<v Speaker 6>time that you're pissed off at the Celtics one again

0:29:05.170 --> 0:29:07.570
<v Speaker 6>with their bullshit Missoula bowl, you get to be like,

0:29:07.630 --> 0:29:09.930
<v Speaker 6>but I'm closer to my division back.

0:29:10.130 --> 0:29:12.060
<v Speaker 2>Look, I like Jalen Brown. I kind of think their

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.660
<v Speaker 2>team makes a lot of sense without him there though. Unfortunately.

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 6>All right. You get back to back. This is a snake.

0:29:16.940 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 6>So you get to go, but go again, Brian, what

0:29:18.180 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 6>do you want?

0:29:18.980 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Warriors under 38 and a half wins.

0:29:21.540 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:29:21.820 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I was asleep.

0:29:22.620 --> 0:29:25.410
<v Speaker 8>I was, I was thinking this wouldn't make it back

0:29:25.430 --> 0:29:27.690
<v Speaker 8>to me maybe, but this made it back and I

0:29:27.730 --> 0:29:28.470
<v Speaker 8>have to take them now.

0:29:28.510 --> 0:29:29.730
<v Speaker 2>I just don't see it with this team.

0:29:30.330 --> 0:29:33.390
<v Speaker 8>They're a Steph Curry injury away from being the Eric Pascal,

0:29:33.430 --> 0:29:34.690
<v Speaker 8>D'Angelo Russell Warriors.

0:29:35.490 --> 0:29:38.630
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't think this team is that good. I

0:29:39.050 --> 0:29:39.970
<v Speaker 2>think Yaxo Candy.

0:29:40.090 --> 0:29:40.290
<v Speaker 7>Good.

0:29:40.310 --> 0:29:43.950
<v Speaker 8>I think Pojemski is probably not as good as people,

0:29:44.660 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 8>the most optimistic Pojemski people think he's going to be.

0:29:47.340 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 8>But the contract that he signed, I thought was fine

0:29:49.580 --> 0:29:54.260
<v Speaker 8>or can be fine. Draymond is basically like, if Steph

0:29:54.300 --> 0:29:56.340
<v Speaker 8>is there, cool. If he's not, I don't know if

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.690
<v Speaker 8>he's going to give a shit. We've seen that already.

0:29:59.110 --> 0:30:01.790
<v Speaker 8>And then Chris Asperzingas, this is not ready.

0:30:01.810 --> 0:30:02.430
<v Speaker 1>He's not healthy.

0:30:02.470 --> 0:30:05.710
<v Speaker 2>We don't know what to expect there. This was originally

0:30:05.750 --> 0:30:08.650
<v Speaker 2>at like 40 earlier in the offseason. It's been dropping.

0:30:08.730 --> 0:30:11.690
<v Speaker 8>I still don't mind it at 38.5. I think this

0:30:11.710 --> 0:30:14.410
<v Speaker 8>should really be in like the mid-30s, and I could

0:30:14.430 --> 0:30:15.570
<v Speaker 8>see them being under even that.

0:30:16.490 --> 0:30:21.870
<v Speaker 6>All right, Warriors under 38.5 for Fonseca. We have four

0:30:21.910 --> 0:30:25.210
<v Speaker 6>win totals off the board. We have five division bets

0:30:25.290 --> 0:30:27.230
<v Speaker 6>off the board. We have two title bets off the board.

0:30:27.930 --> 0:30:30.350
<v Speaker 6>including whatever the fuck it was, Joe, Joe, the, and

0:30:30.450 --> 0:30:34.060
<v Speaker 6>flag most improved player won award off the board. Joe,

0:30:34.100 --> 0:30:36.650
<v Speaker 6>we are, uh, sorry, BK. We're back to you.

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>BK.

0:30:37.140 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 6>What do you want for your third pick?

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.460
<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to bag a win here. I'll take

0:30:41.500 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 3>an easy dub in around three. Victor, when Benyama MVP

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.940
<v Speaker 3>plus two 10, please.

0:30:49.980 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>And thank you.

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.010
<v Speaker 3>If he plays 65 games, I just don't see a

0:30:54.030 --> 0:30:57.830
<v Speaker 3>world where the Spurs aren't elite and And the case

0:30:57.930 --> 0:31:02.020
<v Speaker 3>for who made the biggest impact in winning isn't Victor Wimbenyama.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what he's able to do defensively to impact games,

0:31:07.220 --> 0:31:12.010
<v Speaker 3>the improvements on offense, the guy is still super young.

0:31:12.270 --> 0:31:16.050
<v Speaker 3>Last year, they were way ahead of schedule. This is

0:31:16.070 --> 0:31:18.910
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be the year where he becomes the guy.

0:31:18.930 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 5>And.

0:31:20.050 --> 0:31:23.630
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is preordained stuff, even more so than LeBron.

0:31:23.670 --> 0:31:27.490
<v Speaker 3>LeBron's first MVP was in the 0809 season. I went

0:31:27.530 --> 0:31:30.030
<v Speaker 3>back and looked at what the preseason odds were. He

0:31:30.070 --> 0:31:32.890
<v Speaker 3>was five to one. He was fourth on the board

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.820
<v Speaker 3>in the we've decided as an NBA collective that this

0:31:36.900 --> 0:31:39.660
<v Speaker 3>is now LeBron's league. Well, we have done the same

0:31:39.740 --> 0:31:43.900
<v Speaker 3>thing with Victor Wimbinyama here in the year of 2026,

0:31:43.900 --> 0:31:47.140
<v Speaker 3>and he's plus 210 because he's just that good.

0:31:47.540 --> 0:31:49.020
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't add that one to the sheet.

0:31:49.450 --> 0:31:52.580
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, man. I mean, look, I was talking about this

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.580
<v Speaker 6>with Turby today on One Bet for Every Team. Go

0:31:54.620 --> 0:31:57.020
<v Speaker 6>listen to that podcast. Jim killed that podcast today. Go

0:31:57.040 --> 0:32:01.780
<v Speaker 6>listen to that. I tried so hard to find a

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 6>way to fade the Spurs, and I got to the

0:32:03.540 --> 0:32:06.620
<v Speaker 6>end of it and was just like, shit, can't. They're

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 6>just going to win 62 games, and that's going to happen.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 6>The women's going to win MVP. I don't mind this

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.900
<v Speaker 6>at all. This is basically just like the season. You're

0:32:14.940 --> 0:32:19.630
<v Speaker 6>getting plus 210 on the season goes as expected. That's

0:32:19.650 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 6>a really good price. Like that's just a really good price.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Last year, they like went out of their way to

0:32:24.900 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 4>get him that DPOI too. And I was very surprised

0:32:28.780 --> 0:32:31.540
<v Speaker 4>by that. And I can't tell if that was like

0:32:31.580 --> 0:32:33.220
<v Speaker 4>to get him his first award or if they're like,

0:32:33.300 --> 0:32:34.220
<v Speaker 4>or if that's a him thing.

0:32:34.260 --> 0:32:36.940
<v Speaker 7>And he's like, I want to thing. Yeah. And you

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.060
<v Speaker 7>think they'll like, they'll bow to that again.

0:32:39.100 --> 0:32:39.380
<v Speaker 1>You think?

0:32:39.940 --> 0:32:40.100
<v Speaker 7>Yep.

0:32:40.540 --> 0:32:43.820
<v Speaker 6>I think, I think that the Spurs have never encountered

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.270
<v Speaker 6>a player with the ambitions that he has. Yeah. Tim

0:32:47.310 --> 0:32:51.230
<v Speaker 6>Duncan was elite and set an extremely high bar of success.

0:32:51.350 --> 0:32:54.910
<v Speaker 6>And so did David Robinson. But they also weren't like,

0:32:55.100 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 6>I want to be the biggest superstar in the world.

0:32:58.940 --> 0:33:01.620
<v Speaker 6>And that's what women Yama wants. So, yeah, it's a

0:33:01.620 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 6>little different. All right. Delera third pick.

0:33:05.140 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 5>All right.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.890
<v Speaker 7>So I'm going to do I am going to do

0:33:07.910 --> 0:33:08.250
<v Speaker 7>an award.

0:33:09.050 --> 0:33:11.110
<v Speaker 5>And the award that I'm going to do is an

0:33:11.210 --> 0:33:14.490
<v Speaker 5>All-NBA award. And there's been two bets that I've been

0:33:14.650 --> 0:33:16.890
<v Speaker 5>waffling with, one of which I think I gave out

0:33:16.930 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 5>on one of the shows. So I'm not going to

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:20.420
<v Speaker 5>do that one. I'm going to do a different one.

0:33:20.980 --> 0:33:23.180
<v Speaker 5>And it's going to be to be named to any

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 5>All-NBA team. So we can go a little bit further down.

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.180
<v Speaker 5>And I think that this is a good, this would

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.930
<v Speaker 5>be like a good stepstool spot for Fiddle's bet.

0:33:32.150 --> 0:33:35.030
<v Speaker 7>But Cooper Flag to be named to any All-NBA team

0:33:35.130 --> 0:33:36.010
<v Speaker 7>at four to one.

0:33:36.870 --> 0:33:37.370
<v Speaker 1>I like this.

0:33:37.390 --> 0:33:38.290
<v Speaker 7>It's on DraftKings.

0:33:38.740 --> 0:33:41.260
<v Speaker 5>I think that he is a player, again, that is

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 5>going to be in a situation where I think he's

0:33:43.900 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 5>going to play enough games. I think that the team

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.140
<v Speaker 5>might be bad. But I also think that he's going

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 5>to get enough national attention and national looks where I

0:33:53.580 --> 0:33:56.070
<v Speaker 5>think the stats are going to improve. He was excellent

0:33:56.140 --> 0:33:59.690
<v Speaker 5>as a rookie. And I think he is uber talented.

0:34:00.130 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 5>So I think with Dallas and just the structure of it,

0:34:03.590 --> 0:34:06.090
<v Speaker 5>I think that Kyrie should help him to a degree.

0:34:06.820 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 5>We'll see if that necessarily works out that way. So

0:34:10.540 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 5>if Kyrie does help and the team's better, I think

0:34:12.460 --> 0:34:16.980
<v Speaker 5>that that kind of boosts that situation. If Kyrie, if

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 5>the match doesn't really work and the Mavericks aren't necessarily good,

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 5>then he's going to get to put up a ton

0:34:20.700 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 5>of empty stats, I think. And those numbers are going

0:34:23.300 --> 0:34:25.860
<v Speaker 5>to pop. So I think a four to one, it's

0:34:25.900 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 5>a way to bet on Cooper flag. And I think

0:34:28.180 --> 0:34:30.259
<v Speaker 5>there's a number of guys that are listed here in

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 5>like the all NBA realm at minus money. that like,

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:36.020
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if they're going to play enough games.

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.100
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you have like Halliburton's coming back from injury,

0:34:39.180 --> 0:34:43.580
<v Speaker 5>Kevin Durant, you know, it just is getting older. Steph

0:34:43.620 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 5>Curry continues in this games. Kawhi Leonard has rarely been

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.620
<v Speaker 5>eligible lately. You don't know what's going on with Jason Tatum.

0:34:49.820 --> 0:34:52.339
<v Speaker 5>And we've seen from the guys at the top, whether

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:56.770
<v Speaker 5>it's Giannis or Luca in particular, like they seem to

0:34:57.070 --> 0:34:59.739
<v Speaker 5>not necessarily always play enough games either. So I think

0:34:59.780 --> 0:35:02.060
<v Speaker 5>there's plenty of opportunity for him to be a guy

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.830
<v Speaker 5>that steps up into that like upper echelon of the

0:35:04.930 --> 0:35:07.669
<v Speaker 5>NBA and is anointed into an all NBA team, whether

0:35:07.710 --> 0:35:08.710
<v Speaker 5>it's one, two or three.

0:35:08.830 --> 0:35:11.370
<v Speaker 7>So at four to one, I like it for Cooper flag.

0:35:11.930 --> 0:35:12.149
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:12.250 --> 0:35:15.190
<v Speaker 6>I mean, look, I, I argued, I asked this question on,

0:35:15.370 --> 0:35:17.870
<v Speaker 6>on locked on NBA and I meant it. I have

0:35:17.910 --> 0:35:20.990
<v Speaker 6>Kevin Durant entering the season as the 15th best player

0:35:21.010 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 6>in the league. And I said, at the end of

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.219
<v Speaker 6>the season, do you think that we will consider Cooper

0:35:25.260 --> 0:35:28.390
<v Speaker 6>flag to be better than Kevin Durant at age 38?

0:35:28.390 --> 0:35:29.830
<v Speaker 6>that's how high I think you have to be on

0:35:29.850 --> 0:35:30.410
<v Speaker 6>Cooper flag.

0:35:30.770 --> 0:35:31.629
<v Speaker 7>That's how good that gets.

0:35:32.410 --> 0:35:32.629
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:32.790 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 5>And I, and I think that with the positionless voting

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 5>for all NBA, I think that actually helps him a

0:35:37.660 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 5>lot too. Uh, because some of the players that are

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:44.580
<v Speaker 5>like priced around him are Paolo, Joel Embiid, Evan Mobley,

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.940
<v Speaker 5>Chet Holmgren, Jamal Murray. Um, like those are the guys

0:35:48.140 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 5>right around him. And I think that you can make

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.180
<v Speaker 5>a case that he has a season and just catapults

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.540
<v Speaker 5>a lot of those guys where you know, MB is

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:57.350
<v Speaker 5>never going to play enough games. So, I mean, plus

0:35:57.370 --> 0:36:00.230
<v Speaker 5>four 75 to me is nuts, but you know, I

0:36:00.250 --> 0:36:01.950
<v Speaker 5>think that you could make the argument that flags better

0:36:01.969 --> 0:36:04.029
<v Speaker 5>than Paolo right now. He's better than Mobley right now.

0:36:05.050 --> 0:36:06.690
<v Speaker 5>I don't think the defense is as good as what

0:36:06.730 --> 0:36:08.489
<v Speaker 5>chat does, but on the offensive side of the ball,

0:36:08.530 --> 0:36:11.830
<v Speaker 5>he's certainly better than chat. So I think that that's

0:36:11.930 --> 0:36:13.860
<v Speaker 5>four to one is a great price for flag to

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 5>make an all NBA team.

0:36:14.820 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 7>Okay.

0:36:16.180 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask a semantics question is all NBA. Do

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.450
<v Speaker 1>you guys consider that an award? I love the bet.

0:36:21.469 --> 0:36:23.009
<v Speaker 1>I'm not, I'm not having a gripe, but I.

0:36:23.370 --> 0:36:25.630
<v Speaker 6>And Brian already asked if we could use it and

0:36:25.670 --> 0:36:27.690
<v Speaker 6>I told him yes. So it does qualify.

0:36:27.730 --> 0:36:28.850
<v Speaker 1>No, I love it. I think it's great.

0:36:29.989 --> 0:36:32.690
<v Speaker 6>Um, it is an accolade. We should have named it accolade,

0:36:32.810 --> 0:36:35.250
<v Speaker 6>but I'm told that I use two fancy words.

0:36:35.969 --> 0:36:36.450
<v Speaker 3>Uh, all right.

0:36:36.489 --> 0:36:41.190
<v Speaker 6>Holiday player of the month or something. I, we would

0:36:41.230 --> 0:36:43.270
<v Speaker 6>definitely bet on player of the month if we could fiddle.

0:36:43.350 --> 0:36:43.770
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God.

0:36:43.870 --> 0:36:47.899
<v Speaker 1>Love it. Your market, Carl Anthony towns. Um, Yeah. Okay.

0:36:47.980 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go with a win total here. And

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.660
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of teams that we've talked about that

0:36:52.700 --> 0:36:55.129
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I could give good win totals for,

0:36:55.190 --> 0:36:57.029
<v Speaker 1>but I think I have the make can make the

0:36:57.070 --> 0:37:01.390
<v Speaker 1>most interesting case, uh, for OKC over 61 and a

0:37:01.430 --> 0:37:03.700
<v Speaker 1>half wins this year. And I think that's like the,

0:37:03.820 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the one with the most interesting handicap to explain. Um,

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.980
<v Speaker 1>there seems to be a deflating of the top wind

0:37:11.020 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>totals and an inflating of the bottom wind totals given

0:37:14.260 --> 0:37:20.610
<v Speaker 1>tanking and NBA lottery reform changes, the 3-2-1 rules. And

0:37:20.650 --> 0:37:23.910
<v Speaker 1>so there's this theory around the NBA circles that, okay, well,

0:37:24.230 --> 0:37:27.050
<v Speaker 1>the best teams are not going to get as easy

0:37:27.090 --> 0:37:31.029
<v Speaker 1>of wins against some of these bottom feeders. 17.5 point

0:37:31.050 --> 0:37:33.350
<v Speaker 1>spreads are going to become 12.5, 11.5 point spreads, and

0:37:33.370 --> 0:37:37.009
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get more dogs that win outright. I mean,

0:37:37.780 --> 0:37:39.569
<v Speaker 1>a seven and a half point dog will still be

0:37:39.660 --> 0:37:42.170
<v Speaker 1>equally as likely year over year versus seven and a

0:37:42.170 --> 0:37:44.529
<v Speaker 1>half point dog. But, you know, we're not going to

0:37:44.550 --> 0:37:48.150
<v Speaker 1>see as many 20 point spreads this year. I actually

0:37:48.190 --> 0:37:52.150
<v Speaker 1>think it's still an 82 game season. Here's the handicap.

0:37:52.190 --> 0:37:53.989
<v Speaker 1>It's still an 82 game season and you're going to

0:37:54.030 --> 0:37:56.930
<v Speaker 1>have to take nights off somewhere. And these teams are

0:37:56.950 --> 0:37:59.410
<v Speaker 1>still going to want to prioritize wins to stay above

0:37:59.530 --> 0:38:02.049
<v Speaker 1>the relegation zone. And so I think if you're looking

0:38:02.090 --> 0:38:05.270
<v Speaker 1>at a schedule spot where say you have OKC and

0:38:05.290 --> 0:38:09.020
<v Speaker 1>then the Lakers in two more nights, I think OKC

0:38:09.060 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>is going to get probably the most amount of best

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.860
<v Speaker 1>player on opposing teams sitting that night still. And a

0:38:15.900 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of them are just going to say, this is

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the one where we're not going to try and go

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.660
<v Speaker 1>overboard for the win. Let's focus on the Lakers tomorrow

0:38:22.700 --> 0:38:24.859
<v Speaker 1>night or two nights from now. So I actually think

0:38:24.900 --> 0:38:27.860
<v Speaker 1>that OKC is pseudo going to face a much easier

0:38:27.940 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>schedule than expected. And we're going to get like the

0:38:30.660 --> 0:38:34.660
<v Speaker 1>pseudo tank teams playing against OKC in the fact that

0:38:34.700 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to see as many star players playing

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>against them. So I'm going to go with OKC over

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>61 and a half. I think they've gotten better year

0:38:43.100 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>over year. Hopefully stay healthy. A lot of that is J-Dub.

0:38:46.660 --> 0:38:50.219
<v Speaker 1>But the late addition of McCain obviously was fruitful in

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.700
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. Morrow looks incredible. He looks like a baby

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>between Hartenstein and Wemby. And so we'll see what he

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.430
<v Speaker 1>can do. And so I'm going to go with the

0:38:58.770 --> 0:39:02.110
<v Speaker 1>OKC over 61 and a half. Easier schedule than expected.

0:39:03.420 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 6>That's an obnoxiously good cap, Fiddle.

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:06.780
<v Speaker 7>It's so sharp.

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 6>That was so sharp. I had not thought about that,

0:39:10.700 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 6>that they're literally going to be like, we can rest

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 6>them on this night because we're going to lose it anyway.

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:39:18.420 --> 0:39:21.069
<v Speaker 6>We can't risk losing against such a low, against such

0:39:21.090 --> 0:39:21.330
<v Speaker 6>a low.

0:39:21.370 --> 0:39:24.350
<v Speaker 1>We have Portland tomorrow night. Let's go for the Portland

0:39:24.530 --> 0:39:26.370
<v Speaker 1>one and skip the OKC one.

0:39:26.510 --> 0:39:27.870
<v Speaker 6>Fuck you, Fiddle. That's annoying.

0:39:27.910 --> 0:39:30.110
<v Speaker 1>Good, right? I'm going to go add more to it.

0:39:30.140 --> 0:39:30.890
<v Speaker 2>Get the knives out.

0:39:30.910 --> 0:39:35.100
<v Speaker 6>I like it. I like it. Jim Turvey, your next bet.

0:39:35.460 --> 0:39:38.010
<v Speaker 4>It has me shaking with my Spurs understock that I have,

0:39:38.030 --> 0:39:39.629
<v Speaker 4>because that is a really good point.

0:39:39.650 --> 0:39:41.710
<v Speaker 7>All right, I'm going to go to award. The smart

0:39:41.730 --> 0:39:43.430
<v Speaker 7>thing would definitely be to do title, but I just

0:39:43.489 --> 0:39:44.770
<v Speaker 7>kind of hate all.

0:39:44.610 --> 0:39:46.210
<v Speaker 4>Of these teams for title. So I'm going to make

0:39:46.330 --> 0:39:48.669
<v Speaker 4>you guys make me make a pick. So I'll do

0:39:48.890 --> 0:39:52.129
<v Speaker 4>Will Hardy coach of the year, 12 to one. Talked

0:39:52.150 --> 0:39:53.830
<v Speaker 4>about this on the pod with Matt a little bit.

0:39:53.850 --> 0:39:55.069
<v Speaker 4>So I'll do a briefer thing.

0:39:56.270 --> 0:39:58.830
<v Speaker 7>Favorites typically aren't great in coach of the year. It's

0:39:58.850 --> 0:40:00.509
<v Speaker 7>kind of a weirdly priced market where you kind of

0:40:00.530 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 7>want to sneak up on people. It's like one of

0:40:02.020 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 7>those ones.

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:05.430
<v Speaker 4>But we have seen it two years ago. Dagnall came

0:40:05.469 --> 0:40:08.130
<v Speaker 4>into the season as the favorite. He was kind of

0:40:08.170 --> 0:40:10.530
<v Speaker 4>similar timelines where he kind of paid his dues. Everyone

0:40:10.570 --> 0:40:12.489
<v Speaker 4>knew he was a very smart coach with a team

0:40:12.530 --> 0:40:15.250
<v Speaker 4>about to pop. Shout out BK. I was looking at

0:40:15.290 --> 0:40:17.810
<v Speaker 4>Jazz 45 plus for one of my long shots as well.

0:40:17.910 --> 0:40:19.870
<v Speaker 4>All over the Jazz this year. I do really like them.

0:40:20.510 --> 0:40:22.850
<v Speaker 4>This is my way to play them at a decent number.

0:40:22.870 --> 0:40:25.550
<v Speaker 4>You can get 12 to 1 out there for Will Hardy.

0:40:25.350 --> 0:40:26.109
<v Speaker 1>Coach of the year.

0:40:26.150 --> 0:40:28.700
<v Speaker 4>He's kind of like the hipster, buzzy favorite. I don't

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:30.950
<v Speaker 4>think it will take much for them to be in

0:40:30.969 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 4>the conversation for him to win this award.

0:40:32.930 --> 0:40:33.569
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Good pick.

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 6>I have no argument against this. This is a totally

0:40:36.300 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 6>good pick. I think it's in particular, this doesn't require

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.620
<v Speaker 6>you to actually believe in the jazz. It just asks you,

0:40:41.780 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 6>it requires you to believe if the jazz are better

0:40:44.620 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 6>than expected, they're much better than expected. If they're much

0:40:47.300 --> 0:40:49.430
<v Speaker 6>better than expected, will Hardy is likely to win coach

0:40:49.450 --> 0:40:53.950
<v Speaker 6>of the year. And like that logic absolutely checks out. So, uh,

0:40:54.010 --> 0:40:56.370
<v Speaker 6>I like that pick. Uh, I'm going to go chalk

0:40:56.989 --> 0:41:00.150
<v Speaker 6>for my next one. I'm going cam boozer rookie of

0:41:00.170 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 6>the year. Um, I thought about Ace Bailey. I really

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 6>like the Ace Bailey six man of the year bet

0:41:06.700 --> 0:41:12.530
<v Speaker 6>I've been throwing around. I really like that. I'm probably

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.989
<v Speaker 6>also going to bet Ace Bailey most improved player because

0:41:15.030 --> 0:41:16.489
<v Speaker 6>I'm worried that what's going to happen is that he's

0:41:16.530 --> 0:41:19.750
<v Speaker 6>actually going to take Peterson's spot or that he's going

0:41:19.770 --> 0:41:21.370
<v Speaker 6>to start two and they're going to start Jackson at

0:41:21.390 --> 0:41:23.530
<v Speaker 6>the five. There's all these ways in which that happens.

0:41:23.790 --> 0:41:25.850
<v Speaker 6>So I will be on Ace Bailey. Back to Cam Boozer.

0:41:26.070 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 6>Blood for the blood God. Cam Boozer is un-fucking-believable. He

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 6>is already one of my five favorite players in the league,

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 6>and he hasn't played a single minute. He is unreal.

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 6>There is so much stuff that he does. And he

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 6>is the type of player that busts all of our conventional, oh,

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.919
<v Speaker 6>this is the profile. You have to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

0:41:45.340 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 6>Everybody that watches him is going to be like, oh,

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 6>that's the best guy. That's the best guy by far.

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 6>He looks so goddamn polished already. He is leaps and

0:41:53.660 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 6>bounds above the polish of the other guys. And I've like,

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:59.410
<v Speaker 6>I watched Caleb Wilson and Darren Peterson in person. And

0:41:59.430 --> 0:42:01.970
<v Speaker 6>I've watched A.J. DeBonta, and I've watched all these other guys.

0:42:02.250 --> 0:42:04.550
<v Speaker 6>Yaxha Lindenborg is going to be great, but those guys

0:42:04.670 --> 0:42:07.839
<v Speaker 6>at that draft range usually don't win. Cam Boozer is

0:42:08.020 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 6>unreal right away. I do think that this Memphis Grizzlies

0:42:11.060 --> 0:42:12.819
<v Speaker 6>team is set up to succeed. He is the type

0:42:12.980 --> 0:42:16.300
<v Speaker 6>of big that Asala likes. Cam Boozer, plus 300, rookie

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 6>of the year.

0:42:17.180 --> 0:42:17.540
<v Speaker 7>Let's go.

0:42:19.910 --> 0:42:23.230
<v Speaker 6>I will follow that up with my long shot, which

0:42:23.290 --> 0:42:26.410
<v Speaker 6>is going to be, I am going to go with,

0:42:27.700 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 6>Celtics Sixers Eastern Conference Finals 14-1.

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.469
<v Speaker 6>Joe is booing because I had to find a way

0:42:39.510 --> 0:42:41.710
<v Speaker 6>to fade the Knicks in this podcast as I will

0:42:41.730 --> 0:42:45.649
<v Speaker 6>be doing almost every single episode of the season. But yeah, look,

0:42:46.110 --> 0:42:49.930
<v Speaker 6>I think Boston is going to win 55-ish games. I

0:42:49.989 --> 0:42:51.910
<v Speaker 6>think that the Sixers are not going to win that

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 6>many games. But I do think they're going to be

0:42:53.260 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 6>a better team in the playoffs than they are I

0:42:56.180 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 6>think there's a very good chance they're going to be

0:42:57.540 --> 0:43:00.259
<v Speaker 6>able to manage Joel Embiid, who is lighter. I think

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 6>the Sixers are going to struggle in the regular season.

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 6>I'm on their win total under. They are the exact

0:43:04.739 --> 0:43:06.380
<v Speaker 6>type of team that by the playoffs, it's like, oh,

0:43:06.620 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 6>it took us a while, but we figured out who

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.219
<v Speaker 6>we are. We know how to do, we know how

0:43:10.260 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 6>to build around each other. We know how to play together. Yes,

0:43:13.510 --> 0:43:16.390
<v Speaker 6>there are injury concerns. I have injury concerns with everybody.

0:43:16.450 --> 0:43:18.710
<v Speaker 6>The Thunder had injury concerns last year and it probably

0:43:18.730 --> 0:43:22.780
<v Speaker 6>cost them another title. the Sixers still have an incredible

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 6>collection of talent. Nick nurse is a championship level coach.

0:43:25.860 --> 0:43:28.299
<v Speaker 6>They have the depth. They have the site. Like I

0:43:28.340 --> 0:43:30.980
<v Speaker 6>know the center position is Jim's talked about this. I'm

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 6>big on a Dem Bono. So like, I'm not as

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.739
<v Speaker 6>terrified of the center stuff as some other people are.

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:37.779
<v Speaker 6>And they've got some maneuverability in season to be able

0:43:37.820 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 6>to go make a move. They have to, they can

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.859
<v Speaker 6>fiddle with Anthony Simons is contracted. They need to, sorry

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.980
<v Speaker 6>to mention fiddle, but like, I, I like this a lot.

0:43:46.060 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 6>Celtic Sixers, 14 to one Eastern conference finals. I don't

0:43:48.780 --> 0:43:51.330
<v Speaker 6>want the calves. I don't want a Southeast division team.

0:43:51.350 --> 0:43:56.380
<v Speaker 6>I do not want the Knicks. I'm actively against the Knicks. Celtics, Sixers,

0:43:56.460 --> 0:44:00.430
<v Speaker 6>Eastern Conference Finals, 14-1 is my long shot. Jim Turvey,

0:44:00.530 --> 0:44:00.870
<v Speaker 6>back to you.

0:44:02.030 --> 0:44:03.930
<v Speaker 7>All right. I don't think I can avoid it any longer.

0:44:03.950 --> 0:44:06.810
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to do title and I'll partially explain why

0:44:06.830 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I was so rude to Fonseca with his first pick

0:44:08.890 --> 0:44:10.779
<v Speaker 4>of the draft, because I did a little look this

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 4>off season. And cause we think of, I think we

0:44:13.620 --> 0:44:16.460
<v Speaker 4>think of this new era where there's all these non-repeat

0:44:16.500 --> 0:44:18.940
<v Speaker 4>winners as like a little bit more chaotic.

0:44:19.060 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 7>Like, like we see teams coming out of nowhere to

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:21.940
<v Speaker 7>win titles.

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.220
<v Speaker 4>The sneaky thing is that it actually hasn't really happened.

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.299
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of the noise of the regular season that

0:44:27.340 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 4>makes it seem that way. If you look, go back

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.620
<v Speaker 4>and look at preseason odds for the title winners and

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 4>since kind of the dynasty's era, you know, 2018. So 2019,

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:40.110
<v Speaker 4>Raptors had the fifth longest, Lakers second, Bucks second, Warriors third,

0:44:40.550 --> 0:44:44.010
<v Speaker 4>Nuggets ninth is the longest, but then Celtics first, Thunder second,

0:44:44.110 --> 0:44:45.730
<v Speaker 4>and Knicks even were fourth last year.

0:44:45.790 --> 0:44:48.670
<v Speaker 7>So we only have one title team, even in this

0:44:48.730 --> 0:44:51.690
<v Speaker 7>supposedly spread out era, outside of the top five in

0:44:51.750 --> 0:44:53.830
<v Speaker 7>terms of odds at the start of the season.

0:44:54.770 --> 0:44:57.310
<v Speaker 4>Now, maybe we're starting, we are starting to, you know,

0:44:57.330 --> 0:44:59.490
<v Speaker 4>we got a fourth last season, we got ninth four

0:44:59.510 --> 0:45:01.969
<v Speaker 4>years ago. Maybe there's some trend here. but basketball is

0:45:01.989 --> 0:45:03.489
<v Speaker 4>still a sport where we kind of know at the

0:45:03.530 --> 0:45:05.029
<v Speaker 4>start of season who the best teams are.

0:45:05.050 --> 0:45:07.310
<v Speaker 7>I don't really love any of these.

0:45:07.670 --> 0:45:10.109
<v Speaker 4>Joe, Joe got kind of the good way to play

0:45:10.170 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 4>a thunder. I love, I absolutely love that play that

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 4>Joe had. I'll go the other side of it. I

0:45:14.380 --> 0:45:16.620
<v Speaker 4>guess I'm low on the Spurs in general, but I

0:45:16.700 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 4>do think that I want to be on one of

0:45:18.660 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 4>these short numbers. And I do think that they match

0:45:20.780 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 4>up really well with the thunder, like that matchup. If

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:26.250
<v Speaker 4>they are healthy, I do think that the Spurs will

0:45:26.270 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 4>win that series. So I think, Listen, I don't love

0:45:28.780 --> 0:45:31.320
<v Speaker 4>the number of Spurs plus 270, but we really haven't

0:45:31.890 --> 0:45:34.450
<v Speaker 4>actually transcended into an era where long shots are winning

0:45:34.469 --> 0:45:37.370
<v Speaker 4>titles all the time. I had one like mid tier

0:45:37.410 --> 0:45:39.989
<v Speaker 4>long shot that I liked even less than this. And

0:45:40.010 --> 0:45:42.770
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't talk myself into Nick's repeat at nine to

0:45:42.850 --> 0:45:46.690
<v Speaker 4>one seems short sixers. I get the Sixers' interest, but

0:45:46.989 --> 0:45:49.589
<v Speaker 4>I just can't see Embiid staying healthy. And I love

0:45:49.630 --> 0:45:51.890
<v Speaker 4>a dumb boner too, Matt, but I don't see them

0:45:51.910 --> 0:45:53.819
<v Speaker 4>winning a title with a dumb boner. So I'm kind

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.180
<v Speaker 4>of just cornered into taking the Spurs at a number

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't really like, but that's how I got there, basically.

0:45:59.460 --> 0:46:01.919
<v Speaker 6>What's your number on that one?

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:03.300
<v Speaker 7>270.

0:46:03.300 --> 0:46:04.140
<v Speaker 6>You're so sad.

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 7>I'm so sad.

0:46:06.070 --> 0:46:08.170
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I would try and talk you out of

0:46:08.210 --> 0:46:10.370
<v Speaker 6>this if we had more time just because guys.

0:46:10.489 --> 0:46:12.690
<v Speaker 7>I will say the other team. No, I won't say

0:46:12.710 --> 0:46:14.610
<v Speaker 7>the other team. Some might want them, but there's a

0:46:14.630 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 7>team in the 20s.

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.219
<v Speaker 6>Nobody's made it back-to-back finals. They haven't even just won

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 6>the title. Nobody's made it back-to-back finals.

0:46:21.020 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 7>No, I know. I don't like it. Joe's, I will

0:46:23.940 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 7>say this. Joe's boost, I do like that.

0:46:27.830 --> 0:46:29.670
<v Speaker 6>You just want to copy Joe's pick.

0:46:29.690 --> 0:46:32.009
<v Speaker 7>Can I copy Joe's pick? Is that how drafting works?

0:46:32.570 --> 0:46:34.670
<v Speaker 7>Jim's like, how did you not incept this one into

0:46:34.690 --> 0:46:37.990
<v Speaker 7>my brain? All right.

0:46:39.310 --> 0:46:42.290
<v Speaker 6>Biddle, you have long shot and title left. What do

0:46:42.310 --> 0:46:42.870
<v Speaker 6>you want to go to?

0:46:43.969 --> 0:46:48.460
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do long shot first. And I'm debating

0:46:48.540 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>between the joke one that I had was Moussa Diabate,

0:46:52.620 --> 0:46:54.780
<v Speaker 1>most rebounds, 200 to one for Fonseca.

0:46:56.940 --> 0:46:58.580
<v Speaker 8>I would not take that. He has too many games

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:01.550
<v Speaker 8>where he has like just eight rebounds. I mean, yeah,

0:47:01.610 --> 0:47:02.730
<v Speaker 8>like that's the reason.

0:47:02.850 --> 0:47:04.450
<v Speaker 1>The one I'm actually going to go with is Cleveland

0:47:04.489 --> 0:47:07.770
<v Speaker 1>Cavaliers top seed, number one seed in the East.

0:47:16.810 --> 0:47:17.570
<v Speaker 7>No way.

0:47:18.050 --> 0:47:18.339
<v Speaker 1>No way.

0:47:18.380 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 7>This was my literal number one pick for long shot.

0:47:20.380 --> 0:47:22.379
<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh, there's 8 trillion long shots in

0:47:22.420 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 7>the world. And this was what I wanted for the

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:25.860
<v Speaker 7>long shot. You have to be kidding me. I'll show

0:47:25.900 --> 0:47:28.069
<v Speaker 7>you the sheet right now. Matt knows I drafted it.

0:47:28.090 --> 0:47:31.630
<v Speaker 1>The win totals draft. And you gave me first pick, Matt.

0:47:31.710 --> 0:47:34.310
<v Speaker 1>And I started out going Atlanta Hawks over. And Jim's like,

0:47:34.390 --> 0:47:35.850
<v Speaker 1>what the hell? The same shit.

0:47:36.230 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 7>How is this possible?

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:38.700
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad it's not available.

0:47:39.370 --> 0:47:43.510
<v Speaker 3>It's about time somebody got sniped. That took too long.

0:47:43.770 --> 0:47:44.780
<v Speaker 7>What's your number, Fiddle?

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:46.780
<v Speaker 6>I can look it up from the doc that Jim

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 6>gave out earlier today, but what's your number on it?

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.700
<v Speaker 1>So I see plus 800 right now.

0:47:52.380 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 7>This is 900.

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a plus 900 as well. He knows. There's

0:47:58.460 --> 0:48:00.779
<v Speaker 1>even a 10-to-1 at our beloved DraftKings, so I'll take

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:05.500
<v Speaker 1>the 10-to-1 conference top seed for the Cleveland Cavaliers. And

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:06.910
<v Speaker 1>the handicap for this is.

0:48:09.270 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 1>The depth between bigs and guards, like having two elite

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.420
<v Speaker 1>creators on ball and having two elite rim protectors, the

0:48:19.460 --> 0:48:22.820
<v Speaker 1>fact that you just have some wiggle room of potential injury,

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:25.819
<v Speaker 1>whereas the teams in front of them are Sixers with

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:30.700
<v Speaker 1>some injury risk, the Knicks with some depth risk without

0:48:30.739 --> 0:48:34.359
<v Speaker 1>losing Mitchell Robinson. And now it's like, who are they

0:48:34.380 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 1>going to turn to with the bigs? And are they

0:48:35.940 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>going to lose the possession battle more often? The Celtics

0:48:39.180 --> 0:48:42.320
<v Speaker 1>obviously have their own injury risk. The Pistons not coming

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:44.299
<v Speaker 1>into the year with the best juju. And, you know,

0:48:44.420 --> 0:48:47.430
<v Speaker 1>how much of that motivation ball can they keep up?

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Analytically speaking, the Cavaliers will be number one. It's just

0:48:51.500 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>a matter of if they actually do it. So I

0:48:53.430 --> 0:48:55.569
<v Speaker 1>think they have the depth and the pieces. And so

0:48:55.610 --> 0:48:59.509
<v Speaker 1>I'll take Cavaliers number one seed coming in immediately with

0:48:59.550 --> 0:49:02.399
<v Speaker 1>something to prove, given the way last season ended. that

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they're still in contention.

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 6>I don't I said, I think I failed Jim on

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.589
<v Speaker 6>this on this bet earlier. So I can't I can't

0:49:10.690 --> 0:49:15.170
<v Speaker 6>endorse it because I'm I'm anti. I'm anti hardened. I'm

0:49:15.190 --> 0:49:17.129
<v Speaker 6>just kind of like tired of the whole like, well,

0:49:17.170 --> 0:49:19.989
<v Speaker 6>Evan Mobley make a leap and uh, I like his own.

0:49:20.010 --> 0:49:20.230
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:49:20.450 --> 0:49:23.390
<v Speaker 6>The addition of weight of Watson was good. It's good value.

0:49:23.790 --> 0:49:26.250
<v Speaker 6>It's good value because there's so much, there's so much

0:49:26.330 --> 0:49:29.129
<v Speaker 6>steam on the Eastern, on the Atlantic division, just like

0:49:29.770 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 6>whether it's, Oh, Nick's bing bong Nixon five or like, Oh,

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:39.529
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to, you know, LeBron sixers. Ooh, or the

0:49:39.570 --> 0:49:41.950
<v Speaker 6>contrarian plays on Boston and Toronto. There's so much in

0:49:41.969 --> 0:49:44.069
<v Speaker 6>the Atlantic, so I do kind of like this.

0:49:45.230 --> 0:49:46.810
<v Speaker 2>Boston's never a contrarian play.

0:49:47.469 --> 0:49:48.030
<v Speaker 6>Do what, Brian?

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:49.780
<v Speaker 2>Boston's never a contrarian play.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.020
<v Speaker 6>Fiddle locks that in. Joe, we're back to you.

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:58.700
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to grab my win total because I'm going

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:01.720
<v Speaker 5>to play with fire even after watching Jim get sniped

0:50:01.780 --> 0:50:04.219
<v Speaker 5>on a long shot. I just have to live this way.

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to grab the Blazers under 41 and a

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.540
<v Speaker 5>half wins. I just am not like super convinced with

0:50:10.580 --> 0:50:15.260
<v Speaker 5>this team. Jim and I like incepted each other, I think,

0:50:15.300 --> 0:50:18.650
<v Speaker 5>or maybe Jim incepted me. I also bet them to

0:50:18.690 --> 0:50:21.430
<v Speaker 5>be the five seed or the fifth, the finished fifth

0:50:21.570 --> 0:50:23.870
<v Speaker 5>in the division at plus three 30, a little bit

0:50:23.910 --> 0:50:26.649
<v Speaker 5>earlier today, log that in the app. That's now down

0:50:26.730 --> 0:50:29.760
<v Speaker 5>to like plus two 30 or so. I just am not,

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.489
<v Speaker 5>I just don't really think that this team is, as

0:50:33.570 --> 0:50:36.140
<v Speaker 5>good as this number kind of indicates. I think they

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.589
<v Speaker 5>have a lot of pieces coming in and I don't

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 5>really know how they're going to fit. You have a

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.580
<v Speaker 5>new coach who's on like one of the weirdest coaching

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 5>contracts you could possibly have.

0:50:45.500 --> 0:50:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I just, I don't know.

0:50:46.460 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 7>I don't like this team.

0:50:47.620 --> 0:50:49.339
<v Speaker 5>I think that especially some of the things that Fiddle

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 5>was talking about before in terms of bringing some of the,

0:50:53.739 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 5>some of like the numbers together, bring like the wind

0:50:56.260 --> 0:50:58.580
<v Speaker 5>totals kind of coming together and getting a little bit tighter,

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.880
<v Speaker 5>I think doesn't sit well for a Portland Trailblazers team

0:51:01.940 --> 0:51:05.350
<v Speaker 5>that When I'm shooting a ton of free throws last season,

0:51:06.030 --> 0:51:09.110
<v Speaker 5>and I think that Denny had a great season, but

0:51:09.170 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 5>now you're introducing Damian Lillard off an injury, Ja Morant

0:51:13.380 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 5>off of whatever. You're bringing in a lot of different

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:22.180
<v Speaker 5>scenarios to this Blazers team. I think under 41 and

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 5>a half wins, I'm basically saying this is not a

0:51:24.060 --> 0:51:27.089
<v Speaker 5>500 team. And I know the Western conference isn't as

0:51:27.170 --> 0:51:29.970
<v Speaker 5>good as it's been previously, but I think that overall

0:51:30.010 --> 0:51:32.150
<v Speaker 5>across the league, we're going to see teams again, like

0:51:32.350 --> 0:51:34.870
<v Speaker 5>trying in these games and Portland, I think did a

0:51:34.890 --> 0:51:37.690
<v Speaker 5>really good job of trying last year. And I think

0:51:37.710 --> 0:51:39.969
<v Speaker 5>that that's part of why they're a little bit overvalued

0:51:39.989 --> 0:51:40.570
<v Speaker 5>in my opinion.

0:51:41.340 --> 0:51:41.620
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.980
<v Speaker 6>I agree. I, the more I've watched the blazers, the

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 6>more I'm kind of just like, it's pretty gross. I

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:54.779
<v Speaker 6>just think overall the wing depth isn't good. Clinging. I

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 6>really like Donovan Klingin as a player, but there's offensive

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.469
<v Speaker 6>questions with him. Jaw looks terrible. There's all these kind

0:51:59.489 --> 0:52:03.529
<v Speaker 6>of issues that are flowing along with it. All right, BK,

0:52:03.900 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 6>back to you. Fourth pick, what do you like?

0:52:06.980 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think now is the time to go. I

0:52:09.500 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 3>don't think anyone's going to take my long shot, so

0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:13.020
<v Speaker 3>I'll save that for last.

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.540
<v Speaker 1>I've got to take a title winner. I'm with Jim.

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:20.220
<v Speaker 3>I kind of just hate this market this year, but

0:52:21.260 --> 0:52:24.750
<v Speaker 3>we've got to take somebody. I'll go with the Philadelphia 76ers, 10-1.

0:52:25.300 --> 0:52:27.700
<v Speaker 3>They're the only team in the league with, when everyone

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.500
<v Speaker 3>is peaking, they're the only team in the league with

0:52:30.580 --> 0:52:35.020
<v Speaker 3>four all-NBA-level players. And I get that this is the least...

0:52:35.690 --> 0:52:39.450
<v Speaker 3>hipster play on in the universe. But if the 76ers

0:52:39.489 --> 0:52:41.710
<v Speaker 3>pull it all together, they're the biggest threat to the

0:52:41.750 --> 0:52:45.049
<v Speaker 3>New York Knicks. They're better than the Celtics, especially come

0:52:45.070 --> 0:52:48.969
<v Speaker 3>playoff time. If that, if they gel, it's going to

0:52:49.010 --> 0:52:50.799
<v Speaker 3>look really good. It'll be scary.

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:51.860
<v Speaker 1>Come playoff time.

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't really worry about LeBron chemistry. He knows where

0:52:57.580 --> 0:52:59.839
<v Speaker 3>he is at this stage in his career. And I

0:52:59.980 --> 0:53:04.149
<v Speaker 3>love the idea of point LeBron and, And then two

0:53:04.270 --> 0:53:08.230
<v Speaker 3>energizer bunnies running around that keep the team at a

0:53:08.290 --> 0:53:12.379
<v Speaker 3>decent seed in the regular season. I'm not worried about

0:53:12.460 --> 0:53:14.860
<v Speaker 3>who misses time. There's all this talk about injury risk.

0:53:15.180 --> 0:53:18.820
<v Speaker 3>They've insulated themselves. If Embiid misses, are we going to

0:53:18.860 --> 0:53:20.180
<v Speaker 3>hate this team night tonight?

0:53:20.460 --> 0:53:20.700
<v Speaker 7>No.

0:53:21.260 --> 0:53:23.989
<v Speaker 3>If Jalen Brown misses, will we hate this team night tonight?

0:53:24.219 --> 0:53:27.410
<v Speaker 3>Probably not. They'll be priced better. We'll probably bet them

0:53:27.430 --> 0:53:30.629
<v Speaker 3>in those situations. I just think if the gels come

0:53:30.650 --> 0:53:32.250
<v Speaker 3>playoff time, this team's going to be scary.

0:53:32.270 --> 0:53:32.489
<v Speaker 7>Good.

0:53:32.570 --> 0:53:33.590
<v Speaker 1>So, I'll take it.

0:53:34.210 --> 0:53:35.670
<v Speaker 6>Hard to hate it. I mean, it's hard to hate it.

0:53:35.750 --> 0:53:37.390
<v Speaker 6>It's a lot of talent. It's a lot of talent.

0:53:37.790 --> 0:53:38.270
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:53:38.350 --> 0:53:40.069
<v Speaker 6>I can understand it.

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I kind of hate it, but it's fine.

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.900
<v Speaker 6>For all NBA players. That's a strong word for BJ Edgecombe.

0:53:45.820 --> 0:53:49.799
<v Speaker 6>Brian Paseka, you get back-to-back picks to wrap up your card.

0:53:49.820 --> 0:53:50.819
<v Speaker 6>Who do you want for your fourth pick?

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:52.980
<v Speaker 2>I have to do award and long shot, right?

0:53:53.380 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 3>All right. Award.

0:53:55.020 --> 0:53:56.180
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go chalk-ish.

0:53:57.020 --> 0:54:00.399
<v Speaker 8>Luka MVP plus 600. I don't know how I feel

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:03.940
<v Speaker 8>about this Lakers team yet. But I don't think the

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:08.380
<v Speaker 8>three seed is out of reach at all in the

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.319
<v Speaker 8>Western Conference. I think they're in that fight for third

0:54:11.380 --> 0:54:17.450
<v Speaker 8>place with Minnesota, Houston, whoever else after OKC and San Antonio.

0:54:18.770 --> 0:54:22.210
<v Speaker 8>And people have been trying to give Luka Doncic MVP

0:54:22.930 --> 0:54:25.350
<v Speaker 8>for most of this decade. He enters as a preseason

0:54:25.390 --> 0:54:28.029
<v Speaker 8>favorite basically all the time. I think this year is

0:54:28.070 --> 0:54:29.930
<v Speaker 8>the first year where he's not even in the top

0:54:29.950 --> 0:54:32.760
<v Speaker 8>three heading into the season. in a lot of different places.

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:36.380
<v Speaker 8>But if this works out and if he's mostly healthy,

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:38.960
<v Speaker 8>if he's mostly healthy, they're going to win 50 games

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:41.890
<v Speaker 8>because Luka Doncic wins 50 games. Like he walks into

0:54:41.890 --> 0:54:44.390
<v Speaker 8>50 games when he plays enough games. So they're going

0:54:44.410 --> 0:54:46.730
<v Speaker 8>to be in a conversation. You get the Lakers bump

0:54:47.770 --> 0:54:49.350
<v Speaker 8>and the way that they're going to be able to

0:54:49.410 --> 0:54:52.810
<v Speaker 8>play now, his numbers are going to be stupid. And

0:54:54.190 --> 0:54:57.570
<v Speaker 8>maybe the voters have Shea fatigue, Jokic fatigue.

0:54:57.730 --> 0:54:58.169
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:54:58.810 --> 0:54:59.570
<v Speaker 2>That could be part of it.

0:54:59.989 --> 0:55:02.850
<v Speaker 8>But if this I'm not taking like an over on

0:55:02.870 --> 0:55:04.770
<v Speaker 8>their win total, like I don't know what to do

0:55:04.810 --> 0:55:07.029
<v Speaker 8>with that yet. But to me, it's like if this

0:55:07.090 --> 0:55:10.260
<v Speaker 8>works out, Luca will be an MVP conversations. And maybe

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:12.819
<v Speaker 8>this is the year that he finally, finally, finally gets

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:15.460
<v Speaker 8>one because he's literally been a favorite to win this

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:16.739
<v Speaker 8>award every year.

0:55:17.180 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 2>It's it's crazy.

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:23.359
<v Speaker 6>I think I bet him like five times and never,

0:55:23.540 --> 0:55:25.540
<v Speaker 6>never cashed it. So I'm not betting it this year.

0:55:25.580 --> 0:55:29.410
<v Speaker 6>So he'll cash it. That's sounds about right. From that perspective.

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:31.250
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you're right. Look, if the Lakers are good,

0:55:31.590 --> 0:55:35.310
<v Speaker 6>if the Lakers went 50 plus, there will, I think

0:55:35.550 --> 0:55:38.750
<v Speaker 6>one important thing to think about Luca, he's one of

0:55:38.770 --> 0:55:41.109
<v Speaker 6>the few players that doesn't have to win more than women.

0:55:41.130 --> 0:55:41.450
<v Speaker 5>Yama.

0:55:42.510 --> 0:55:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 6>Luca wins 50 plus. Then people will be like, Hmm.

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:49.660
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Sure.

0:55:49.900 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 6>But Luca versus like, if you'll get to win 50 plus,

0:55:52.540 --> 0:55:52.940
<v Speaker 6>it'll be like.

0:55:53.020 --> 0:55:55.890
<v Speaker 2>Eh, and he'll be averaging 33, eight and nine or

0:55:55.930 --> 0:55:56.460
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is.

0:55:56.489 --> 0:55:56.669
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:55:57.210 --> 0:55:57.350
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:57.950 --> 0:55:58.790
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely ridiculous.

0:56:00.130 --> 0:56:00.470
<v Speaker 7>Okay.

0:56:00.870 --> 0:56:02.290
<v Speaker 6>So you get to wrap up your card with your

0:56:02.330 --> 0:56:03.509
<v Speaker 6>long shot. Fonseca, what do you want?

0:56:03.530 --> 0:56:08.410
<v Speaker 8>There's like eight bets that I want here. I'll go

0:56:08.510 --> 0:56:10.660
<v Speaker 8>on brand. This person is one of the favorites to

0:56:10.700 --> 0:56:13.180
<v Speaker 8>win most improved player. I actually take them to make

0:56:13.300 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 8>all NBA. Brandon Miller plus 2,500.

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:56:18.780 --> 0:56:23.439
<v Speaker 8>Just in case, just in case they're really right about

0:56:23.460 --> 0:56:25.779
<v Speaker 8>this lamello ball trade. I don't know what, like, I'm

0:56:25.820 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 8>not where I'm at. I'm not where I was with

0:56:28.260 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 8>the Hornets last year. I'm actually like kind of skittish

0:56:30.700 --> 0:56:32.100
<v Speaker 8>on like, I don't know what's going to happen.

0:56:32.780 --> 0:56:33.420
<v Speaker 2>Don't love that.

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:36.799
<v Speaker 8>There are already injuries heading into the season, but I

0:56:36.820 --> 0:56:39.580
<v Speaker 8>was even saying before last year, Brandon Miller is the

0:56:39.620 --> 0:56:42.010
<v Speaker 8>best player on this team. When they had LaMelo ball

0:56:42.050 --> 0:56:43.770
<v Speaker 8>was saying that I think that's going to be the

0:56:43.810 --> 0:56:46.230
<v Speaker 8>case long-term if he's healthy, that's a big if there.

0:56:47.770 --> 0:56:50.830
<v Speaker 8>And I think in LaMelo ball being traded, people forget

0:56:51.190 --> 0:56:52.670
<v Speaker 8>how much they had to manage his minutes.

0:56:53.230 --> 0:56:55.879
<v Speaker 2>It was 28 minutes a game. He was very good

0:56:55.940 --> 0:56:58.420
<v Speaker 2>as a playmaker. He was still chaotic.

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 8>I think Charles Lee is going to get to coach

0:57:01.060 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 8>the way that he wants to now have more structure.

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:09.020
<v Speaker 8>And I think maybe this is one step back to

0:57:09.420 --> 0:57:11.430
<v Speaker 8>make two steps forward. But what if they're just still

0:57:11.700 --> 0:57:16.090
<v Speaker 8>pretty good right now? Brandon Miller, I think, can be

0:57:16.250 --> 0:57:18.470
<v Speaker 8>like a star. I think he's going to be in

0:57:18.510 --> 0:57:21.590
<v Speaker 8>first time all star conversations if he's healthy. So why

0:57:21.630 --> 0:57:23.270
<v Speaker 8>not take a stab at him to make all NBA?

0:57:24.780 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm just glad that you had that despite not being

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:28.950
<v Speaker 6>as high on them, you have still somehow managed to

0:57:28.990 --> 0:57:31.790
<v Speaker 6>get yourself on some tiny corner of Hornets Island.

0:57:31.990 --> 0:57:33.730
<v Speaker 2>That's just pretty, pretty good.

0:57:33.750 --> 0:57:35.230
<v Speaker 7>You checking that every day.

0:57:35.250 --> 0:57:39.430
<v Speaker 2>I didn't, I didn't make my, uh, bam depoy donation, uh,

0:57:39.530 --> 0:57:41.030
<v Speaker 2>as part of the strap. So you should be thankful

0:57:41.050 --> 0:57:41.330
<v Speaker 2>for that.

0:57:43.370 --> 0:57:43.570
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:57:43.590 --> 0:57:47.170
<v Speaker 6>I mean, yeah, yeah, that's that. That one might need

0:57:47.190 --> 0:57:49.990
<v Speaker 6>some talk about at some point, uh, Fonseca's final card

0:57:50.090 --> 0:57:52.910
<v Speaker 6>warriors under 38 and a half Luca MVP six to one, uh,

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:56.890
<v Speaker 6>Brandon Miller, All-NBA, 25-1. Pacers, 40-1 to win the title.

0:57:57.220 --> 0:58:00.450
<v Speaker 6>And Celtics Division, plus 215. Kravitz, you've got a long

0:58:00.470 --> 0:58:01.390
<v Speaker 6>shot pick. What do you want?

0:58:02.590 --> 0:58:05.670
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go with, if we're going last pick,

0:58:05.930 --> 0:58:08.470
<v Speaker 3>let's go on brand. I've got to add a magic

0:58:08.530 --> 0:58:12.790
<v Speaker 3>player to my card here. Let's go Franz Wagner, All-Defensive, NBA,

0:58:12.870 --> 0:58:18.730
<v Speaker 3>first team, 100-1. Whoa. DeLair brought this up earlier. No

0:58:18.750 --> 0:58:23.550
<v Speaker 3>Euro basketball for Franz Wagner in the summer. So he

0:58:23.590 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 3>has put all of his energy and attention into being healthy,

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 3>into gelling with his teammates. His brother is in Brooklyn now,

0:58:32.660 --> 0:58:34.820
<v Speaker 3>and he has gone out of his way to develop

0:58:34.860 --> 0:58:37.240
<v Speaker 3>a better relationship with Palo. That's not really a cap

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:40.060
<v Speaker 3>on the defense, but just an idea of how different

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 3>this team could look if everyone stays healthy. But new

0:58:44.420 --> 0:58:48.370
<v Speaker 3>coach in Sean Sweeney, I think they take real strides defensively.

0:58:48.390 --> 0:58:52.990
<v Speaker 3>He's the best on ball defender on this team. And

0:58:53.010 --> 0:58:58.740
<v Speaker 3>that includes Jalen Suggs, who's 15 to one to be

0:58:58.860 --> 0:59:01.900
<v Speaker 3>all defensive first team. He's 15 to one and Franz

0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:05.230
<v Speaker 3>is a hundred to one. That is a mispriced in

0:59:05.250 --> 0:59:08.430
<v Speaker 3>the past. They've put Franz on the best offensive wing

0:59:08.450 --> 0:59:10.300
<v Speaker 3>and the opposing team. I think they're just going to

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.920
<v Speaker 3>put them on the best ball handler all season. He

0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:14.820
<v Speaker 3>was guarding James Harden the other night and they were

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:17.820
<v Speaker 3>last night in the preseason. Oh, of two, when guarded

0:59:17.900 --> 0:59:21.220
<v Speaker 3>by Franz Wagner, he's a menace defensively. He doesn't get

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.980
<v Speaker 3>enough credit for it. And there's that space. If you

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.080
<v Speaker 3>look at the guys that are auto bids for first

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:31.189
<v Speaker 3>team defense, there's like four If you're generous. So there's

0:59:31.250 --> 0:59:33.230
<v Speaker 3>a spot there for that fifth spot.

0:59:33.270 --> 0:59:35.300
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go with Franz. Okay.

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:37.070
<v Speaker 6>Franz, all defense.

0:59:38.090 --> 0:59:38.580
<v Speaker 2>First team.

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:39.500
<v Speaker 1>First team.

0:59:39.500 --> 0:59:39.820
<v Speaker 5>101.

0:59:39.820 --> 0:59:41.100
<v Speaker 1>I have to just.

0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:43.020
<v Speaker 6>Put all defense because I don't have any more room

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:44.340
<v Speaker 6>for that long ass bet.

0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:47.360
<v Speaker 4>You gave him a thousand to one, which is pretty sick.

0:59:47.420 --> 0:59:51.860
<v Speaker 7>I might take it. Damn it.

0:59:52.260 --> 0:59:55.660
<v Speaker 2>You could do number one ST.

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 6>I do that a lot where I'm just typing out

0:59:58.160 --> 0:59:58.820
<v Speaker 6>odds and it's just like.

1:00:00.690 --> 1:00:00.930
<v Speaker 1>0-0-0-0-0.

1:00:00.950 --> 1:00:03.080
<v Speaker 6>Something about that. Some number of zeros in there.

1:00:03.980 --> 1:00:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:06.660
<v Speaker 6>Franz, I will do all defense first team.

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:09.939
<v Speaker 8>Just use the combos and then get rid of them after.

1:00:10.620 --> 1:00:10.860
<v Speaker 7>Okay.

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:15.570
<v Speaker 6>And then, all right. So, Kravis has got Jazz over 37.5. Wemby,

1:00:15.650 --> 1:00:17.850
<v Speaker 6>MVP plus 210. Franz, all defense first team, 101. Sixers,

1:00:17.870 --> 1:00:20.250
<v Speaker 6>10-1 for the title. And Hornets, 9-1 for the division.

1:00:20.270 --> 1:00:20.530
<v Speaker 1>Joe Dallara.

1:00:28.950 --> 1:00:32.330
<v Speaker 6>You have a long shot. I can't wait to hear

1:00:32.390 --> 1:00:32.770
<v Speaker 6>this shit.

1:00:34.250 --> 1:00:38.390
<v Speaker 5>I was doing a lot of thinking about what teams

1:00:38.660 --> 1:00:44.280
<v Speaker 5>might be playing competitive basketball as we're going along here.

1:00:44.300 --> 1:00:48.180
<v Speaker 5>One of the teams I think is going to play

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:50.920
<v Speaker 5>a lot of competitive games. I do like one of

1:00:50.940 --> 1:00:54.060
<v Speaker 5>their players that's been mentioned before for MVP. I think

1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:57.570
<v Speaker 5>that maybe cuts into this a little bit. But one

1:00:57.590 --> 1:00:59.850
<v Speaker 5>of the spots that I was thinking is there's obviously

1:00:59.870 --> 1:01:04.690
<v Speaker 5>no LeBron James in LA anymore. And a play that

1:01:04.830 --> 1:01:06.630
<v Speaker 5>I like, and I think a market that's a little

1:01:06.670 --> 1:01:11.070
<v Speaker 5>bit fluid here, is Clutch Player of the Year. And

1:01:11.090 --> 1:01:13.450
<v Speaker 5>the player that I'm going to actually go with is

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:16.979
<v Speaker 5>Austin Reeves to win Clutch Player of the Year at 70-1.

1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:20.060
<v Speaker 7>I think the number is really, really long.

1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:22.640
<v Speaker 5>And without LeBron there, I think it's just going to

1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:26.530
<v Speaker 5>be two-man game with him and Luka nonstop. at least

1:01:26.670 --> 1:01:30.640
<v Speaker 5>in those end of game scenarios. And obviously, you know,

1:01:31.260 --> 1:01:33.960
<v Speaker 5>Luca could always just kind of take control of the

1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:36.180
<v Speaker 5>basketball at the end of the game. But I think

1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:39.460
<v Speaker 5>that the pricing here is worth a look at Austin

1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:41.420
<v Speaker 5>Reeves at 70 to one, the dude is a bucket,

1:01:41.500 --> 1:01:44.180
<v Speaker 5>he gets the free throw line. And he's also not

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<v Speaker 5>afraid to just like keep the ball. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that that matters a little bit too. So for a

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<v Speaker 5>long shot at 70 to one, I think you're getting

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of extra value on betting in that scenario,

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<v Speaker 5>especially if Luka misses some time or whatever the situation is.

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<v Speaker 5>We've really just seen this go to raw totals in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of scoring in the clutch. And I think that

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<v Speaker 5>this Lakers team, I think they're going to be good,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm not convinced that they're going to be great.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't really feel great about their defense. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think there are going to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>games where you're down the stretch and you're like, this

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<v Speaker 5>is a tight game. And that's how you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>rack up some more clutch opportunities. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>go with Austin Reeves at 70 to one to be

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<v Speaker 5>clutch player of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh? Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>All right. I was not expecting that. I thought I

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<v Speaker 6>was getting set up for a Knicks thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought about that did not happen. Joe's final card

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<v Speaker 6>blazers under 41 and a half Cooper flag, all NBA

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<v Speaker 6>four to one. Austin Reeves clutch 70 to one. OKC

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<v Speaker 6>title and Shea 30 plus per game plus 450 and

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<v Speaker 6>the Magic plus 275 for the Southeast division. Michael Fiddle,

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<v Speaker 6>let's wrap up your card here. What do you want

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<v Speaker 6>for your last pick?

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<v Speaker 1>So my last pick is title and we've spoken ill

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<v Speaker 1>will on this team, but I think that was mainly

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<v Speaker 1>regular season focus. So now I'm going to go postseason

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<v Speaker 1>focus and I actually think It might change. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to actually change one of my picks, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>almost regretting the Hawks division pick because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go Miami Heat NBA title 30-1. I thought about Giannis,

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<v Speaker 1>rebounds leader. I thought about Giannis, MVP odds. The Heat

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<v Speaker 1>have been in the play-in for four consecutive years. The

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<v Speaker 1>thought that I had was, are they going to take

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season really seriously to not be in the play-in?

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's between the Hawks, the Heat, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Magic to get two non-play-in spots. So I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat are going to take this regular season really seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>going to gel pretty quickly with Spolstra. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get me through this episode without doing some nerdy handicap.

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<v Speaker 1>And so on the betting exchanges, this is 24 to 1,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a $ 0. 01 split in the $ 0. 06 yes, $ 0. 95

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<v Speaker 1>no split. So it's a 1% hold in that market

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like when you go to the 30 to

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<v Speaker 1>1 odds, you're getting like probably close to 8 to 12%

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<v Speaker 1>hold in there. So I think that this 24 to

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<v Speaker 1>1 is much closer to true odds. You go to

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<v Speaker 1>some sharp offshores, they're 16 to 1. So just blindly

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<v Speaker 1>from an EV perspective, this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>good play on the Miami Heat. And give me Giannis

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<v Speaker 1>and Bam and Spolstra. And I think they might be,

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<v Speaker 1>it's never mattered in the past, but we always think

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<v Speaker 1>it might matter this year. They're probably the top buyout

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<v Speaker 1>candidate spot, landing spot in the NBA. They're probably the, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we could give you some good usage at a guard position.

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<v Speaker 1>If there is some sort of intriguing veteran guard in

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<v Speaker 1>a buyout position, the Miami Heat are going to be very,

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<v Speaker 1>very likely to land that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Levine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how exciting that would get me to get

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Levine on this team and have a 30-1 on

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat? Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>Be pretty good. I mean, look, I kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>it just from the perspective of... Again, if the Heat work,

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<v Speaker 6>they're a title contender. If they go over, they're a

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<v Speaker 6>title contender. And I do think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 6>dangerous seeing Spolstra with the ability to problem-solve with Bam

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<v Speaker 6>and Giannis in a defensive playoff series. Like, that's just.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's kind of crazy that the Raptors and

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<v Speaker 7>them are priced so differently when like, they kind of

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<v Speaker 7>seem like similar, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Shoot the moon type of, of teams. Like, aren't the

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<v Speaker 4>Raptors like 12 to one for the title right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi is like 175 to one MVP. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>got real close to that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Raptors are 25 to one.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 7>They dropped. They had been really, they, they were like

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<v Speaker 7>12 to one.

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<v Speaker 2>They were inside of 2000 for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they were very trendy early on.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, that makes more sense.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I was talking high about them early, so I

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<v Speaker 6>moved the market.

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<v Speaker 7>You had to, obviously.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, that's how that goes. It's me, big-time market mover.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, to wrap up Fiddle's final board here. Thunder

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<v Speaker 6>over 61.5. Cooper Flagg, most improved player at 80-1. The

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<v Speaker 6>Cavs in the one seed, robbing Jim Turvey at 10-1. Heat,

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<v Speaker 6>30-1 to win the title, and Hawks plus 275 for

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<v Speaker 6>the division. Jim Turvey from Rotogrinders, what's your final bet?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so obviously my preferred long shot is no longer there.

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<v Speaker 7>I was looking at Luka MVP. Brian got that as well.

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<v Speaker 7>I was debating... AJ, sixth man of the year. You've

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<v Speaker 7>scared me off of that by giving me a D

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<v Speaker 7>grade every time I bring it up. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to go with a really long shot. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 7>hoping I might steal it from you, Matt. I know

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<v Speaker 7>we agreed on this before. I'm going to do Amin Thompson,

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<v Speaker 7>most improved player of the year, 71. May as well

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<v Speaker 7>have a nice, long, fun number here.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if he gets into like the 24 points

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<v Speaker 4>a game range, if he's a first time all-star player,

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<v Speaker 4>There is a lot of room. I think he is

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<v Speaker 4>a kind of buzzed about, well-liked young player. They've got

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<v Speaker 4>Chip England there. If any sort of shooting progresses, he

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<v Speaker 4>can add to the points pretty easily. The rebounds and

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<v Speaker 4>assists are already pretty high. The assists might even come

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<v Speaker 4>down with Fred VanVleet in town, but he and Marcus

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<v Speaker 4>Smart are going to make for more easier opportunities for

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<v Speaker 4>Amin Thompson. The minutes might come down a tiny bit,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think there's so much ceiling to.

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<v Speaker 7>His scoring just on if he gets an outside shot

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<v Speaker 7>or if Fred VanVleet frees up more for him.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, I think he's a well-liked player who was,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe, the co-favorite with his brother to win this

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<v Speaker 4>last year, now getting a 70-1 when he did make

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<v Speaker 4>improvements last year, but not nearly to the ceiling that

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<v Speaker 4>I think is there for this guy. There's the potential

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<v Speaker 4>for this guy to be the most athletic player in

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<v Speaker 4>the league if he isn't already there. Those are the

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<v Speaker 4>type of guys who usually scoop up awards. So at 70-1,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll make it my long shot here.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I love this bet.

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<v Speaker 5>I bet it.

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<v Speaker 3>I gave it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's a very good chance. I think voters

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<v Speaker 6>are not going to hold, you know, somebody was commenting

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<v Speaker 6>on me like, well, men was really good last year.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, yeah, but we have a habit

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<v Speaker 6>of doing the whole, he was good last year, but

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<v Speaker 6>nobody noticed. And then the next year he's just like

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit better and winning the award. Like I,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think voters pay attention enough on the most

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<v Speaker 6>improved player to previous. It's more about, you have to

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<v Speaker 6>outperform the idea of what you were versus what you

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<v Speaker 6>actually were. Like nobody's going through and doing, Oh, he

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<v Speaker 6>actually is scoring better. eight points more than last year.

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<v Speaker 6>It's about, well, I didn't think you were very good

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<v Speaker 6>last year and now I think you're awesome. And that's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot more flexible to be able to pull off.

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<v Speaker 6>So I like that. Jim Turvey's final board Sixers under

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<v Speaker 6>50 and a half. Will Hardy coach of the year,

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<v Speaker 6>12 to one men, Thompson, most improved player, 70 to one,

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<v Speaker 6>the Spurs to win the title plus two 70 and

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<v Speaker 6>the Lakers minus one 20 to win the division. A

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<v Speaker 6>little chalky, Jim. Well, little, little chalky this year.

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<v Speaker 4>If I got AJ, it would have been really chalky

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<v Speaker 4>at six to one. So I need that 70 to

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<v Speaker 4>one in there to kind of boost, boost my numbers up.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, for sure. Uh, my final selection is for the

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<v Speaker 6>NBA title, uh, and it is going to be the

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<v Speaker 6>Detroit Pistons 25 to one. That's going to be mine. Um,

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<v Speaker 6>I have the Pistons at 58 wins. I have the

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<v Speaker 6>Pistons as the one seat in the Eastern conference. I

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<v Speaker 6>think the Detroit Pistons are going to be better. I

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<v Speaker 6>think they added shooting. I think John Collins is a

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<v Speaker 6>more impactful player at this point in his career than

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<v Speaker 6>Tobias Harris at this point in his career. I think that, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>though I do, it would be like, you tell me

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<v Speaker 6>like you are betting on JB Bickerstaff to coach his

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<v Speaker 6>way to the finals. And I start to be like,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't feel so good, but, but you know what?

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<v Speaker 6>Doc Rivers was actually kind of thought of as like

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of a joke coach until he got

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<v Speaker 6>the 2008 Celtics. And this team is not the 2008 Celtics,

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<v Speaker 6>but coaching reputations change very quickly. So I am going

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<v Speaker 6>to go ahead and pay with the Pistons 25 to

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<v Speaker 6>one as my final one. And my final card is

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<v Speaker 6>going to be the Rockets over 47 and a half

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<v Speaker 6>on the wind total. Cam Boozer plus 300. Boston Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 6>in the Eastern Conference Finals at 14 to one. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>countering that with a Pistons plus a 25 to one

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<v Speaker 6>so that the Cavs are definitely winning the East. Rockets

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<v Speaker 6>plus 650.

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<v Speaker 2>For the division.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's my final board. This is your final board.

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<v Speaker 6>Let us know in the comments who you think won

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<v Speaker 6>this draft. Because this is the whole board. You can

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<v Speaker 6>catch it on social and on the card and on

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<v Speaker 6>the video on YouTube. If you're listening on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 6>you can go back through. I'm not going to read

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<v Speaker 6>all 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. We have 30 picks.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to read all 30 here on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>I will, however, tell you what our best bets are

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<v Speaker 6>brought to you by DraftKings Sportsbooks. Because those are going

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<v Speaker 6>Pacers title at 40 to 1. Like that one. Brandon Kravitz,

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<v Speaker 6>Utah Jazz over 37 and a half wins. Dallara, OKC

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<v Speaker 6>Thunder title and SGA 30 plus in the specials tab

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<v Speaker 6>at DK plus 450. Michael Fiddle, Cooper Flagg, most improved

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<v Speaker 6>player at 80 to 1. Jim Turvey, the Sixers under

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<v Speaker 6>50 and a half wins. And for myself, the Houston Rockets,

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<v Speaker 6>over 48.5 wins. Those are the first round picks from

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah!

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah!

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<v Speaker 6>was not an easy task that I gave them and

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