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Speaker 1: Problem solved, up down Eyler Murray. That defender is in

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Speaker 1: multiple pieces. All that was nasty, right there? Rights the

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Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who cover the teams.

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Speaker 1: Rilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling. Bring it on,

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Speaker 1: Bring it on. Slam the ground by foot a baker

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Speaker 1: like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I

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Speaker 1: scared of nobody. Here's Paul Calvc. Well, if you guys

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Speaker 1: truly refer to yourselves as Arizona Cardinals insiders, I have

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Speaker 1: a question for you, Philippe Corral Junior and Darren Urban,

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Speaker 1: what exactly did the Bye Weeks study reveal? You know,

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Speaker 1: that offseason study that was commissioned by the head coach,

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, did he ever disclose any of the findings.

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Speaker 1: Is it published anywhere in a medical journal that I

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Speaker 1: might be able to consult over here a Pauly podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been very curious about that myself, Paul.

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Speaker 1: But to be honest, no, not only has it not

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Speaker 1: been in any medical journals, but Cliff Kingsbury, not surprisingly

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Speaker 1: you know that might be of great service too. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know those of us who are still suffering

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Speaker 1: the bye week bloss. I think I have an acute case.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to shake it. There was the Monday malaise, felipe,

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Speaker 1: because if I could consult the study and maybe find out, okay,

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Speaker 1: how do I remedy the bye week blase and to

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Speaker 1: try and get some energy and some productivity out of yours? Truly, man,

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Speaker 1: I would do it in a minute. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you need. You know, you have the rams struggling right now.

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Speaker 1: You already beat the forty nine ers and the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers creeping back up in the standing. So I

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Speaker 1: the energy you really need coming off the BIA. But

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Speaker 1: that doesn't help Paul, Paul right now, that's clearly just

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Speaker 1: malasing around. That is true. You're right, Darren, But but

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Speaker 1: I think Felipe might be onto something. But it's not

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Speaker 1: so much looking at the Cardinals at the top, not yet,

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Speaker 1: because you know you're still that one to no mentality. Correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's seen the Seahawks at the bottom of the standings.

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Speaker 1: That's what's really inspiring. In fact, I can feel my

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Speaker 1: energy pick up right now just saying the words last

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Speaker 1: place Seahawks. I enjoy that. There's a certain ring to

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Speaker 1: that that I really you know what, all of a

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Speaker 1: You want me to really pump you up here, Paul,

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Speaker 1: at least somebody's being productive field. Right now, the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: There has been no team that has had average less

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Speaker 1: I was gonna go to the seventy six Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: if you as long as we're bouncing around, this is

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Speaker 1: But as long as we're bouncing around the division and

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Speaker 1: talking about some of these things. I mean, I watched

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Speaker 1: But I mean, the Cardinals, I don't want to necessarily

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Speaker 1: go ahead again, I understand that. I guess it's a

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Speaker 1: No Lambeau, You're absolutely right. Every time Greeks trending a

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Speaker 1: You don't need to comment on how popular the hashtag is.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you it's my life's work. Right now.

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Speaker 1: But as for that game, the holy Conoli stat that

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Speaker 1: To me, there are two teams you're worried about, and

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Speaker 1: the experience and all that, Cardinals don't have any of that. Well,

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Speaker 1: but but wait a minute, hang on, they don't have

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Speaker 1: you know. Mike Sando did an article basically analyzing going

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Speaker 1: of talk about this. It was kind of speaking of

426
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: throwing a grenade out there. That's what the Adam Schufter

427
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: tweet was on Sunday, right after Lincoln Riley took the job.

428
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: I don't know where all this goes. I know that

429
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: Cliff had a chance to completely kai bosh it this

430
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: week and didn't quite do it, but leverage, Yeah, I mean,

431
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: I do think that there is something to the fact that,

432
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, he wants to make sure a wise person

433
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: once told me in terms of jobs, and this has

434
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Cliff necessarily. Yeah, I got my pen.

435
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm running down here. We go, right, you're ready for

436
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: this taper. You should always be interested in being interested

437
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: like that, And I really like that when I heard it,

438
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: and I was much older than I should have been

439
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: when I heard it for the first time and deep

440
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: into my career anyways, But look, nobody, if you're interested

441
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: in something, that's fine. It doesn't mean you're taking the job.

442
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: It's a can't hurt to take a phone call, can't

443
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: hurt to have a discussion, and certainly can't hurt to

444
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: let the people you're already working for know that you're

445
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: interested in being interested. So I'm gonna use that with

446
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: my wife tonight because she's been looking for another job.

447
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: I thought you were going And it's amazing in this

448
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: this labor shortage. I mean, labor is just short. There's

449
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: a a supply right now. Speaking of grenade, she threw

450
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: out a resume out online to this an application service

451
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I mean it was like piranha on

452
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: a beefstick. It was unbelievable. How many responses, Son, are

453
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: you gonna be retiring? Because she's gonna be making all

454
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: the money she almost got? You know what, I'm folowing

455
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: that way. That's the second part of the conversation I'll

456
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: have tonight. That's the ancillary part. That's where I'm getting

457
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: in the conversation. But that's what I'm gonna tell her

458
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: because she doesn't want to respond all these employers going

459
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: after her resume. I SA, you should always be interested

460
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: in being interested. Okay, there you go. I think that's

461
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: the title of this podcast. You never know and circling back.

462
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think we all know Cliff

463
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: Kingsbury has got a pretty good thing going here. I

464
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: don't know what all is going to happen. I do

465
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: know that, I don't think ay, I think so he's

466
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: under contract, yeah, another year correct and then a team option,

467
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: and he has a team option, and I don't but

468
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: we don't know what that contract says. I mean, I'm

469
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: sure he can't just walk away for another NFL job,

470
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: but I don't know what that means in terms of colleges.

471
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean, just like his USC contract, he was he

472
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: wasn't there for two weeks and he was able to

473
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Speaker 1: get out of it. So you don't know what these

474
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: contracts look like. And and the other thing too is

475
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: you know the signing college signing early signing time is

476
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: like in two or three weeks. So I'm thinking Oklahoma

477
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: is going to need to make a pretty big, fast decision,

478
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: and it's probably gonna jump ahead of anything that that

479
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: could happen. And again, personally, I don't think there's much

480
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: to this. But if you're interested in being interested, why

481
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: would you just dismiss something out of hand? It's his right.

482
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't think anything big is going to happen, and

483
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: we'll kind of see well how it all plays out.

484
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: But I do think that ultimately this is your head coach.

485
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: He just said last week about how he and Kyler

486
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: are tied together, and Kyler was saying, We're probably probably

487
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna be together for a very long time. So I

488
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: fully expect that to happen. Well, there's nothing left to

489
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's recruiting class anyway at this point, so yeah, you're

490
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: starting all gonna be Trojans. Aren't everyone's decommitment all going

491
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: to decommit and then go with Lincoln Riley to USC?

492
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: And my issue sun Devils are just buried. I joked

493
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: with my buddy, who's a who's a massive USC honk.

494
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: I just said, well, you know, if Cliff Kingsbury is

495
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: interested in ten million per plus, then guess what, maybe

496
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: he should have stayed at USC because USC is so

497
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: desperate and is overpained is such a large degree. Did

498
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: you see the tweet? Is this supposed to be legit? Well,

499
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: if you read the tweet, it does say I haven't

500
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: confirmed anything, but if it is true, holy journalism one

501
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: o one right there. I mean that it wasn't very

502
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: sound one hundred ten million to Lincoln Riley. Of course,

503
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: there's no length of contracts sited here. USC buying both

504
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: of his homes in Norman for over five hundred grand

505
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: a piece. Apparently he was for over five hundred grand

506
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: a piece above asking price, above asking price. Okay, so

507
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: an extra million dollars there, bonus above the asking price

508
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: because he was in a house in building a new house,

509
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: right what I understand. And then they bought him a

510
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: six million dollar home in LA which might not be

511
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: very big, right, And really that's the only way you

512
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: can afford California property taxes as a new resident, by

513
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: the way, is if someone buys it for you. And

514
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: then unlimited use of the private jet twenty four seven

515
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: for the family always a nice perk if you can

516
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: get it, that would be totally awesome. That's the one

517
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: that caught my eye. Can you imagine having use of

518
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: a private jet whenever you wanted it? So, USC, how

519
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: embarrassed are you overpaying like that? My goodness. Now, that's

520
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: assuming that's all true, which we will find out eventually,

521
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah. So, once again you continue to monitor

522
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: the status of the head coach. But look, he's on

523
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: the record is saying he wasn't a real fan of

524
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: spending his time recruiting or glad handing with boosters. We

525
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: all know him well enough. Everyone Cardinals fans included that

526
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: he's a grinder. He'd much rather sit in his office

527
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: and watch film than be out of some booster dinner

528
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: sharing a happy hour drink with some guy worth one

529
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Right. Well, heck, the day we're all

530
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: asking about this, he sits there and says, the only

531
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: day he hasn't been in the office for the bye

532
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: weekend was Thanksgiving itself, and he came into the office

533
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: every other day for at least a little while. Yeah,

534
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: that's uh. He has said he wanted to sleep too.

535
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: I don't even think he slept. So that's the thing,

536
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think he has Russell Wilson. Come on now,

537
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: So you're saying there's no uh, there's no risk of

538
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: rest versus rust on the head coach because he never

539
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: really stopped working. Is that that's what you're saying? Okay,

540
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: all right, let me ask you this question, Paul. Do

541
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: you think generally Philippe you can chime in here. Do

542
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: you think generally coaches want buys. You know, for the

543
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: most part, I feel like Bruce arians would be a

544
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: coach that likes byes. Yes, sure, I think Cliff Kingsbury.

545
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: Although when he when he was asked that question to

546
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: Seattle and you were sitting there and someone asked him

547
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: and he looked everyone. I said, I'm tired, and he

548
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: looked tired. He looked tired, and I think that was legitimate.

549
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: That was sincere Now he's young, he's in shape. It

550
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: probably took him thirty six hours to get reinvigorated, rejuvenated,

551
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: and he's ready to go again. It's not like he

552
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: needed a four or five day break. He probably just

553
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: needed one day of mental health and some good you know,

554
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: maybe sleeping actually on that couch that we all saw

555
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: him in the famous draft day photo. May actually using

556
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: that couch to his advantage, watching some football and falling

557
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: asleep on it and then boom, he's ready to go

558
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: the next day at four am. Two things, though, you

559
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: guys are in shape and young, and like, what's the different.

560
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: It's very kind of you Felipe, you know, Felipe, who

561
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: wasn't born until I was out of college. Probably number

562
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: two is if he has that big of a couch.

563
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: What don't you think his bed is a little bit

564
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: more comfortable? Yeah, things, I ask myself, Like people are

565
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna go take a nabin on his couch. Okay, okay,

566
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: quick sidebar. You have to admit, especially like in the

567
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: middle of the day, there's something about being able to

568
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: fall asleep on your couch. Now you don't have kids, Felipe,

569
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: Your kids are still a little bit younger. My kids

570
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: are old enough that ay, they're not around as much

571
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: or be if they see me sleeping, they know they

572
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: better be quiet because then the next time I see

573
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: him sleeping on my couch as twenty year olds, I'm

574
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: gonna slap them around for waking me up. So I

575
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: just I feel like there's something different about getting a

576
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: nap on a couch. Right, Well, it says you're not

577
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: turning in for the night, right don't the study say

578
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: that the twenty to thirty minute had nap. It's a

579
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: lot better than like an hour now an hour and

580
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: a half. And as someone who used to experiment without

581
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: doing a morning radio that never worked, I mean you

582
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: would fall if you talk about the bye week blows

583
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: and the malaise you get that hour and hour and

584
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: a half nap. Now all of a sudden, like you're

585
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: really screwed up. You're just you're foggy. But if you

586
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: go to your bedroom and go in your bed, you're

587
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: absolutely sleeping for ninety minutes, right, So you almost have

588
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: to be on that couch. And also on Thanksgiving there's

589
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: that added bonus which I thoroughly enjoy. When you're gone,

590
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: you sleep for you like twenty thirty minutes, and then

591
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: as you wake up, oh there's a football game on

592
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: right in front of you. I don't have to move.

593
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: I can slowly wake up a watch foot. Well, I

594
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 1: think that's a big thing. That's right, Maybe someone's within earshot. Hey,

595
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: can you get me a bed? Exactly? Yeah? Yeah? And

596
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are married, so you guys have

597
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: the do you guys have the double Thanksgiving thing? Like?

598
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys celebrated family and then

599
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: your wives families and then that's two meals and you're

600
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: even more sleepy and jazzy. I don't know if you

601
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: guys had that. Uh No, we only have the one.

602
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: We basically have one Thanksgiving. Uh my my wife's my

603
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: wife's sibling, her parents are gone, and my wife only

604
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: has one sister in town and she's a flight attendant,

605
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: so she's usually busy on Thanksgiving. So fortunately we only

606
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: have to do the one family now. The time is coming,

607
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: hopefully not right away. But if my sons end up

608
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: getting married at some point, then they're gonna have to

609
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: start picking and choosing, and then then all help breaks. Lease,

610
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you're mentally ready for that yet. Good advice.

611
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: As I was saying it out loud, I'm realized I

612
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: don't even want to have this convers That's a great

613
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: advantage there. I think the farthest you want to look

614
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: ahead is when Cliff Kingsbury says he told the team

615
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: that our best football is ahead of us. Yes, that's

616
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: a good one. Okay, so near future. What do you

617
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: think he means by that our best football is ahead

618
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: of us? Because I asked him that question specifically on

619
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: his TV show, he didn't give me a specific answer.

620
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: As you might imagine, he's not he's not sharing what

621
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: he told his team, although he did sort of hint consistency.

622
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: Every coach is striving for that and the complete game.

623
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals have yet to play a complete game for some

624
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: of the lopsided scores. They've yet to put a forty

625
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: burger up there. They haven't done that yet. I'm waiting

626
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: on that. I think it's coming. I think the forty

627
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: burger's coming. And you haven't seen four quarters of complete

628
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: football in any game this season. You don't think they

629
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: came close against the Rams or the Titans that was

630
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: not completely not complete. We'll start against the Rams and

631
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: the third quarter against the Titans, we're both black. Luster.

632
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: See the thing about the forty burger. I think that's

633
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: especially in the NFL. I think that's a function of

634
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: how the game goes. The way this team is playing,

635
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: which is, if they get a lead, a significant lead,

636
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: they're going to start grinding out the clock on the

637
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: run game, which is going to shorten your chances to

638
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: score number one and number two. I look at this

639
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: team when he says our best football hasn't been ahead

640
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: of us, I mean we haven't seen this offense truly

641
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: complete since before the Packers game. I mean DeAndre Hopkins

642
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: came in with a significant hamstring problem before the Packers game.

643
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: And now they didn't play great against the Texans, But offensively,

644
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: this offense hasn't been together in a long time, so

645
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget what that when he says our

646
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: best football is ahead of us, it's because they've been

647
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: playing so short, especially offensively, for so long, and so

648
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: that I no, I don't know if we're going to

649
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: see it against Chicago, but it's gonna be interesting Rams game.

650
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: With the way the Rams are playing defense, what happens

651
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: and if the Lions keep sinking like a rock and

652
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: the way this team plays on the road, that Lions

653
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: game might be something of interest if, assuming they stay

654
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: into it, that could also be one of those games

655
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: they get a little See my theory is and this

656
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: is my theory obviously, but that's why you call it

657
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: your exactly. I think it's huged as motivation. I feel

658
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: like this team finally got over that hump, you know

659
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: that winning more than eight games. Now they're in. They

660
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: got they clinched the first winning season. Now they're on

661
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: their way to clinch in their first postseason birth in

662
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Now they understand what it's like

663
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: to win games in November, something that obviously they struggle

664
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: with last year. Now it's I feel like it's being

665
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: used as motivation a toast team like, Look, we found

666
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: the I guess the foundation. We found the recipe to

667
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: win tough games in November. Now let's finish off the

668
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: season and make the postseason, something that they struggled with

669
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: obviously last year. So I feel like he's using it

670
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: as motivation. Obviously they're gonna get key players back. One

671
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: of the guys I'm most excited for them to get

672
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: back is just some peak, just so they can get

673
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: that get that offensive line healthy once again. Getting Kylie

674
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: married back is obviously going to help him. So finally

675
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: getting over that hump. I feel like that's why you

676
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: said that they used to a quick observation. ESPN's NFL

677
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: Countdown is on this monitor to my left over here,

678
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: and they just ran a tease with the slug with

679
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: the chir on the lower third that said bulleyball guys

680
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: a James Connor term. I'm not saying he coined the term.

681
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he brought that over from Pittsburgh. It's

682
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: become part of the vernacular and lexicon of the years.

683
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: On a Cardinals twenty twenty one, and they ran some

684
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: video of the forty nine ers bulleyball if anyone deserves

685
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: to get some props for bulleyball, doesn't it wouldn't it

686
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: be the NFL touchdown leader in rushing touchdowns, James Connor,

687
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: arguably the most physical running back in the league this year,

688
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: and instead Deebo Samuel gets a couple of touchdown runs

689
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: out of the backfield as receiver. Now he's got the

690
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: Moniker bullieball as much as I like the Deebo Samuel experiment.

691
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: And Cordarrell Patterson in the backfield for the Atlanta Falcons.

692
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: And oh if an Kuon Bolden was in his prime

693
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals right now, man, you would see

694
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: Q in the backfield in that same sort of role.

695
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: I love all that, but come on now, once again

696
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals not getting any love on the national basis.

697
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: And is anybody have a theory on this? Because I

698
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: was on a radio show recently they're asking why are

699
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals getting more traction even though they're now number

700
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: one and most of all the power polls they better

701
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: be at nine to two and a top of the NFL.

702
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: But I had two theories. Number one, not enough national

703
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: TV games They've only had one primetime game correct, yes?

704
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: And how many do they have left just the rams

705
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: of Monday night, just the rams unless something is flexed,

706
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: which I think we've looked at it, and maybe that

707
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys game maybe. And I think the other reason is

708
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: that they don't have this overwhelming personality as the head coach,

709
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: meaning Bruce Arians. Like when Bruce Arians goes viral this

710
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: week for the Vita vea no tooth comment right, always

711
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: got thirty more or yuk yuk yuck and that gets played.

712
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: All that doesn't happen with the Arizona Cardinals anymore. To me,

713
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: It's less about the coach and more about the fact

714
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: that though the one guy that is your national face,

715
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, hasn't played in a month. If Kyler Murray

716
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: had been playing this last month and made a couple

717
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: of his Kyler plays, I think I think things would

718
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: still be there. But did they get that attention when

719
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: he was well? I thought they did. They did from Kyler. Now,

720
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: maybe the team itself wasn't there, but I mean, it

721
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: was funny this weekend sitting on the couch watching all

722
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: this football between Thursday and Sunday and Monday and other

723
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: than when they posted the standings, and it was there

724
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: on the screen. I didn't hear the Cardinals mentioned one

725
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: time about anything, and hello, it's really weird. It is weird.

726
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean again, I don't really care, but I did

727
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: notice it. I'm not gonna lie. And you know that's

728
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 1: that's a great theory. It really is. If Kyler Murray

729
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: had been playing last month and he missed all of November, correct,

730
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: he missed all of Novembers, So if he had still

731
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: been putting up MVP numbers in November, then yeah, that juggernaut,

732
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: that bandwagon would have been gaining steam and maybe it

733
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: would be of a lot more national prominence. Right now,

734
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: as your quarterback goes, your team goes. I did see

735
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: a debate topic I forgot on what shows specifically, but

736
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: the question was what NFC team is a team to beat?

737
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: And it was like the Packers or the Bucks. And

738
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm thinking, well, they just went The

739
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: Cardinals just went two on one without their stark quarterback

740
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: on the road. You beat two divisional opponents, so they're

741
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: top five in offense and scoring defense. I honestly don't

742
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: get it. That's why I think it's weird, because then

743
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: you start talking about postseason contention and I get it

744
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: they haven't necessarily had success in the last couple of

745
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: years in the postseason, but you know, you can't ignore

746
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: the stats. I mean, you can't hide behind the stats.

747
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean the stats are the stats. That's proof that

748
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: this team has performed at a high level, whether they're

749
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: specifically on the road, and they've been putting up numbers

750
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: on both ends of the field, why not give them some,

751
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: you know, some kind of at least talk about them

752
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: on Thursday. And you know, I failed to mention. I

753
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: think the other part of only having one primetime game

754
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: is you lost that game. Yeah, if that would have

755
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: been an overwhelming victory like so many of their other

756
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: games this year, then that would have gone a long way.

757
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: But when you had that chance for the nation to

758
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: sample your product and you didn't have your best day,

759
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: you didn't put the best meal on that table for

760
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: everyone to sample. It's sort of like, how many times

761
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: do you guys go to a restaurant the first time

762
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: and if it's not good, how often do you go

763
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: back and give it a second chance? Not very often.

764
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: So when America got a taste of your team and

765
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: you came up short, ALPOA was one mental air, one

766
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: miscommunication away from a win at the very end that

767
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: would have been thrilling and exciting and memorable. No it

768
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: didn't happen. You lost, and America came away with a

769
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: bad taste in their mouth. How different? How different are

770
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: things right now? If they win that game, I mean

771
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: they are then instead of a half game up on

772
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: the Packers, they're a game and a half up on

773
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: the Packers, right, you know the three games up in

774
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: the lost column, So two and a half up on

775
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: the Packers and they have the tiebreaker with them. I mean, no,

776
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: Lambo is more than a hashtag, It's a way of life.

777
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: At that point, I was going to say that Paul

778
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: does not like talking about this because it just gets

779
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: them all turned up inside. But anyway, I just wanted

780
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: to get some more thoughts on. So apparently I'm not

781
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: alone in noticing this dearth, this paucity of national buzz

782
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: around the Arizona Cardinals, despite the fact they're nine and

783
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: two and look, a win against Chicago isn't going to

784
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: generate a whole lot more buzz or attention. It just isn't.

785
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: So you can see the money night game against the Rams, sure,

786
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: but if the Rams at that point, I've lost five

787
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: in a row going into that game, and that's the

788
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: way they're certainly tracking at this point. I guess they've

789
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: lost three in a row. They would have lost four Jacksonville. Oh,

790
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: they played Jacksonville next, So I'm not feeling real confident

791
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: that they're going to be on a losing streak. No,

792
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: that is true. I still think it's a personally, I

793
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: still think it's a market thing when it comes to

794
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: national buzz because you see what the Suns are doing,

795
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: and man, every week it seems like they people want

796
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: them to, you know, they're losing streaks, their winning streak

797
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: to end or whatnot. They're you know, at the top

798
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: of the standings in their conference, in their entire league.

799
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: Obviously in the NBA, the Cardinals are in the same

800
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: position in the NFL, and it just seems like people,

801
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, they just put a blindfold down when

802
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: it comes to success in Arizona or something. Yeah, you

803
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: know what, they've won sixteen in a row, Yeah they could.

804
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: They could have won one hundred and sixty in a

805
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: row at a zero at the end, and the ESPN

806
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: talking head shows it would still be pondering what's wrong

807
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: with the Lakers? Are the next gonna win anything in

808
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: the next decade? Those would still be the topics on

809
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: those talk shows. I'd like to state for the record

810
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: right now, if the Sun's won one hundred and sixty

811
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: in a row, I promise you they'd be the number

812
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: one thing that everybody's talking. Work with me, Darren, I

813
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: just want I want to clarify, all right, all right,

814
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna hit you with a question. It's

815
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: your own question you sent out earlier besides Kyler, and

816
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: we'll throw d Hop into that one. Who's the number

817
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: one guy you need to see do big things going

818
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: through December? For me, it's gonna be Chandler Jones. Oh,

819
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: he had a nice game in Seattle. He seems to

820
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: have found himself a little bit after the COVID and

821
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: I think they're just I think they're gonna need him

822
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: think less, produce more, think less, produce more defensively with

823
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: him and Marcus Golden. I know people keep talking about

824
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: the JJ Watt thing, but if Marcus Golden and Chandler

825
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: Jones do what they're capable of doing, I think that's

826
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: going to help this team a lot. And that's the

827
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: guy who I'm like, Okay, this is this is who

828
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: they really need to be playing at a high level.

829
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's lots of choices, but that's that's the

830
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: first guy that pops into my mind. Felipe number one

831
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: guy you need to see do big things going into December.

832
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: Big big things, a great thing, a great minds think alike.

833
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: I had I had put down Chandler Jones. I feel

834
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: like that's the obvious choice as well, But you know,

835
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna stay on the defensive side.

836
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Buyer Murphy. You know, you're three. He's uh,

837
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's CB one on that defensive side. But

838
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: you look at the schedule and he has some tough

839
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver matchups left. You talk about the Rams, you

840
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys and their wide receiver groups. Obviously

841
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: the Seahawks they're there in the last game of the season,

842
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: and you know with DK and Lock it can do

843
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: on that front. So when it comes to being a

844
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: shutdown corner, you know, you talk about a primetime game

845
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: on Monday, possibly that Cowboys game getting flex if the

846
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: package and the Vikings game doesn't get flex. Now you're

847
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: in the spotlight. Now it's buyer Murphy versus Amari Cooper

848
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: or CD Lane where Bye Murphy versus o BJ or

849
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: Cooper CUB. He has success against Cooper cup earlier this year,

850
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: so it's a nice time to replicate that performance. So

851
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Byron Murphy. I mean, I feel like

852
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: once you solidify that that line of scrimmage and you

853
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: can find a way to stop the run, the cherry

854
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: on top is having a secondary that's shut down in

855
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: my opinion. All right, So there's needs and wants in life, right, So, uh,

856
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: my want in terms of the guy I want to

857
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: see do big things would be Zaven Collins. I'd like

858
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: to see anything out of Zaven Collins. I really right,

859
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: So I'd love to see that because it's about now

860
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: where any rookie should start getting some traction. But in

861
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: terms of need, because you're right, they don't need Zaven Collins.

862
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: They've proved that already. Um in terms of need, similarity

863
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Fleet Bay. But I'm gonna go Marco Wilson Byron Murphy. Okay,

864
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: I believe in Bier Murphy. It's year three, he's established,

865
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: she's proven. Now you can say he needs to prove

866
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: himself continually, you know, as a number one corner Okay,

867
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: But to me it's Marco Wilson because the couple of

868
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: games Carolina and Green Bay in particular, where they said,

869
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: you know what we're targeting, there's rookie star in cornerback

870
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: that was effective by the opponent and or the rookie

871
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: wall is always a component for a guy going into

872
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: December as well. So I know, Marco Wilson, what was

873
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: this comment to the media, what rookie wall wasn't as

874
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: quote directly, Actually that was m Rondale Moore. Oh, Rondale Moore.

875
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right. Okay. So if that's the philosophy

876
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: of always rookie, that's great, but you know, let's see it,

877
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: Unlet's make sure that's not a liability as you get

878
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: into the postseason, because I'm guessing Aaron Rodgers is coming

879
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: right back, and Marco Wilson if and when there's a

880
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: playoff game between the Cardinals and Packers, I would agree.

881
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: And it is interesting that all three of our guys

882
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: ended up being on the defensive side of the ball,

883
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: which I think ultimately when you say not counting Kyler

884
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: and DeAndre? How much that changes the equation because I

885
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: would assume that if every name was available, the first

886
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: person everybody says is Kyler Murray? Right, sure, yeah, so yeah,

887
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Can I throw an honorable mention in there?

888
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily a player, but which you guy? Would

889
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: you guys throw in the Cliff Keys Kingsbury in that

890
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: regard getting in of last year and now trying to

891
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: get trying to get into the postseason aft they're clinching

892
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: their first winning season since twenty fifteen, Would you guys

893
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: throw him in there? And you're saying that would be

894
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: based just on how the Cardinals finish? Yeah? Would his performance?

895
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: Is it pivotal to the success in these last six weeks?

896
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Because you know, you gotta know man's got to know

897
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: his limitations. So if you're asking me to assess all

898
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: his play calling down the stretch, right, that's getting into

899
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: dangerous territory right there. But if, but if you're putting

900
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: the overall end result on the head coach, which of

901
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: course you do. Any head coach is judged on the

902
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: win loss record, then okay, yeah that that has legs,

903
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, because look, if he's if he

904
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: needs incentive to motivate this team down the stretch, whether

905
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: they're nine and two, ten and two, eleven and two.

906
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: Guess what you've finished last year by losing five out

907
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: of seven finish, Let's see this team finish and you've

908
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: got to finish two games into January. You're not finished

909
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: until mid January this year. Well, it's it's amazing when

910
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: you start thinking we have it's such a late buy

911
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: and yet they still have six games left. I was

912
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: actually thinking the other day, I'm like, can you imagine

913
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: if this team has got the number one seed after

914
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: sixteen games, but then they have to play the seventeenth

915
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: game to hold onto it? Like that would stink? I mean,

916
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It is what it is, but

917
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: that will you know? And here's the other thing, rest

918
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: versus rust. If they clinch the buy in the number

919
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: one seed in week seventeen, for example, and now week

920
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: eighteen is meaningless and that turns into a preseason game

921
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: and then you have the buy what does this team

922
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: look like three weeks between meaningful games. That scares the

923
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: heck out of me, absolutely, and it should because a

924
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: team who's rolling at the end of the year. Oh,

925
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like the Cardinals were rolling two thousand

926
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: and eight and they found their stride, but they have

927
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: that mentality and that edge, you know. But I will

928
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: say that we don't know how Cliff Kingsbury would approach that.

929
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: We know how Bruce arians might look at it. We

930
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: definitely know how Ken Wisenhunt approached it, but we don't

931
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: know how Cliff Kingsbury looks at that stuff. And you

932
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: know what, zach Ertz on his own throughout with the

933
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: media recently that in his opinion, one of the big

934
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: keys to the Eagles winning the Super Bowl in twenty

935
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: fifteen was the buy was home field. I don't know

936
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: they had overall home field, but that's back when there

937
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: were two buys and they only had to win two

938
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: games to get into the Super Bowl. And that's the

939
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: first thing zach Ertz mentioned how important that is for

940
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: a team to get healthy and get ready for that

941
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: three game push to a Lombardi Trophy. So, but with

942
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: a team with no playoff experience, it's one thing if

943
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: you're Tampa and you have Tom Brady. It's another thing

944
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: if you're Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers. But for a

945
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: team with no playoff experience here and there, zach Ertz,

946
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: for example, you know James Connor has plenty of postseason

947
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: experience with the Steelers, Okay, but otherwise, Yeah, that's risky.

948
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: That's definitely dicey. There's no doubt about it. Well, hopefully

949
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: it's a problem that they have to make a decision

950
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: on him, because that means they have clinched the number

951
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: one seed before we even get to the last turn.

952
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: That's right. So the one and old mentality the key

953
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: to any good road trip. And once again, the Cardinals

954
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: are six and o on the road, every win by

955
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: double digits. The key to any road trip is the

956
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: dinner reservation on Saturday night. So Darren, if you checked

957
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: that box yet, I have not checked that box yet, okay,

958
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: because I want to see what's close to us at

959
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: the at whatever hotel we're at. Okay, Yeah, we need

960
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: to figure out where the hotel is first before I

961
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: can actually make I do have a place in mind,

962
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: and I might have to get off my rear and

963
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: actually make the reservation happen. As a former Chicago resident

964
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: for two glorious years, myself, I do have a place

965
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: in mind. And since I can never count on Ron

966
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: Wolfley to really get it done, despite the fact he's

967
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: a former once upon a time restaurant owner himself, and

968
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: he knows the vernacular and how to make that call

969
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: and get a reservation. You know, it looks like if

970
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: you want it done right, you got to do it yourself.

971
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: So what do you what do you eat in Chicago?

972
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: Is it the Chicago style pizza, top of the deep

973
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: dish pizza? You know, the Chicago style rib pieces of

974
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: cow dead cow steaks? Absolutely, you know, that's what I've

975
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: never been in Chicago. So great city. It might be

976
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: a little bit greater of a city if we were

977
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: going there in the preseason and walking around at night

978
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: rather than walking around at night in December. But that's yeah, yeah,

979
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: fo l with four layers. So here's how it goes.

980
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: It's the undershirt and then it's the thermal long sleeved turtleneck.

981
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: You gotta have that on. Then you put like the

982
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: team poll over that, so we're at three, and then

983
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: it's either four or five. It's four, which is one

984
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: jacket or the fifth is a secondary jacket, so you

985
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: have a lighter jacket underneath, and then actually a fifth

986
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: layer on top and so cap. You know, I try

987
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: and refrain from the nickcap because with the headphones it's

988
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: a real pain in the can. The headphones do give

989
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: you like earmuffs, so that's good. So you got the

990
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: earmuffs or like old school earmuffs. What do you got

991
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: to say that the kids here earmuffs? You have that going.

992
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: And then you try and wease you away near the

993
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: heat blowers and the sideline. Whenever the actions at the

994
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: other side of the field, you race to the far

995
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: end of the field to get in front of the

996
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: heat blowers. That's usually the key. That's a good point,

997
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: and it's like your experienced and you stay away from

998
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: the kickers anyway, Yes, yes, you have to. Uh. In fact,

999
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: the new long snapper. I to introduce myself, Bo Brinkley,

1000
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: and I said, Bo, if I'm ever any you know,

1001
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: before you snap that ball, if I'm ever in the way,

1002
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: come over and just headbut me, stiff arm me, just anything,

1003
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: so I don't take one of those fastballs right in

1004
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: the groin. There you go, speaking of kickers, don't forget

1005
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: folk tales. On Wednesday, Oh thanks coach, Monday night melt down,

1006
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: Denny Green. So you get in some national love from

1007
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: the Adam Schefters of the world. He cash in a

1008
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: few favors there Darren. Interesting how Darren's episode of Cardinals

1009
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: Folk Tales all of a sudden is get this national

1010
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: social media play. Looks like that's a card he's been

1011
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: waiting to play. Interesting. You know, we do what we

1012
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: can I had nothing to do with that, but we

1013
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: do what we can. See. It does look like it's

1014
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: highly entertaining. It does. I'm looking forward to everybody being

1015
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: able to see it. It's uh yeah, it's an all

1016
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: timer and it's great with the Bears on the schedule.

1017
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: What perfect time. It's like you thought about this. It's

1018
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: like you've been game planning for the whole year before.

1019
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: Dave a little bit of that, Paul, you're in that

1020
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: episode two though, right, I've seen your facing that you're

1021
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: a part of that whole scenario. He always got decapitated

1022
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: by an angry Denny Green. Yeah, I mean I was

1023
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: the PostScript. I was the punctuation to the whole thing

1024
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: in a way. So and basically it's really easy to

1025
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: explain Felipe. You get the rant, you get the thanks coach,

1026
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: and then there's that moment of awkward hesitation, and he

1027
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: leaves the press garments and he goes through that door. Right,

1028
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: you know who's on the other side of that door,

1029
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: Paul pencil Neck, getting ready to do the postgame radio interview.

1030
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: And all I have to go on because I'm behind

1031
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 1: the wall, are the words of our long time Fine

1032
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: executive radio producer Jim Almajandro, who reacted in the moment

1033
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: with something akin to all bleep coach just knocked over

1034
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: the podium because all he had was sort of an

1035
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: in house TV view. Here he comes, and he's bleeping mad,

1036
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: and so that's all I had as the door then opened,

1037
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: and you know what, not, only do I remember that

1038
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: moment vividly this might be a little gross, and only

1039
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: if you're Craig Grieolew do you maybe you enjoy this? Okay,

1040
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: here at the very end, Maybe only Craig Greelews tuned

1041
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: in at this point here on Cardinals Underground. But I

1042
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: still remember the smell of an overheated Dennis Green, who,

1043
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: let's just say, needed a postgame shower. I don't know

1044
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: if I needed that information. How vivid and palpable that

1045
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: memory is. I hope this is going to be in

1046
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: the podcast, Paul, it just was so so what happened?

1047
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: I met the folk Tales Darren from her prospective in

1048
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: the media room. I'm more curious to know how did

1049
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: everyone else in there react? Was it like you guys

1050
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: licked at each other and told yourself, oh, bleep, well

1051
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: you're just you're just kind of stunned a little bit

1052
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: that it kind of turned out that way. And then

1053
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Mark said, thanks coach, and then everybody's thinking, well, I

1054
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: guess I got one of my main quotes. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know what. Matt Leiner was next, because we have Matt

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Speaker 1: Lenern in the podcast, because I interviewing Matt Liner that

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Speaker 1: next year. We revisited that moment a year later and

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Speaker 1: Matt Liner said, as a rookie, he's standing there to

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Speaker 1: the side of the podium, he's not in frame in camera,

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Speaker 1: but he's off camera and he's waiting on the other

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Speaker 1: side of Mark Dalton and he Liner at the time admitted, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: what am I walking into? Because he just walked into

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Speaker 1: the room about ten seconds before Danny went off it.

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Speaker 1: It was in a very very interesting evening, but the

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Speaker 1: whole game was mind bending. So it's really it's a

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Speaker 1: good episode when you look at the stats. They didn't

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Speaker 1: score an offensive touchdown. The Cardinals led twenty to nothing.

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Speaker 1: They blew Rex Grossman committed six turnovers, He had four

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Speaker 1: picks in two lost fumbles, and the Bears won that game.

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Speaker 1: That was twenty three to three with two seconds with

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Speaker 1: ten seconds to go in the third quarter, it was

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Speaker 1: twenty three to ten with less than six minutes left

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Speaker 1: and once again no offensive touchdowns. The Edger and James

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Speaker 1: fumble returned for six and the Devin Hester punt returned

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Speaker 1: for six and then the final fateful missed field goal

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Speaker 1: everybody forgets about by Neil Right, which I forgot about

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Speaker 1: into revisiting this name. Matt Leiner took that team down

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Speaker 1: the field like a like an elite franchise quarterback is

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Speaker 1: supposed to do and put him in very makeable field goal.

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Speaker 1: And the next day the offensive coordinator, Keith Ron was

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Speaker 1: fired and he swore all along that Denny told him

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Speaker 1: in f time, sit on the ball, take the air

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Speaker 1: out of the ball, run the ball, shut down the offense,

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Speaker 1: no risk. We all know the result. Yeah, that'll do

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Speaker 1: it for this edition A Cardinals Underground brought to you

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