Speaker 1: Vanessa is one of the few people that were very
Speaker 1: close to my mom the last two years of her life,
Speaker 1: especially the last days, you guys, of my mom's life,
Speaker 1: and she's never spoken about that publicly.
Speaker 2: Seeing your mom, like go through what she went through
Speaker 2: in those last moments and how she would cry and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, I had to make a decision to
Speaker 2: have her back.
Speaker 1: I have gotten comments when people would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: how is Vanessa your friend, and didn't she want to
Speaker 1: kick your ass because she was your mom's friend? And
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, yes, that is all correct. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome back to your favorite podcast, of course, Cheeky's
Speaker 1: and Chill Duh. I hope you all are doing amazing.
Speaker 1: Summer is just around the corner, so I hope you
Speaker 1: all have some fun activities or getaways planned. I am
Speaker 1: going to grease you guys, because I'm a summer baby.
Speaker 1: Some My birthday is coming up. We're going to go
Speaker 1: for a few days and actually our next guest is
Speaker 1: going with me. One of my closest friends, Vanessa, will
Speaker 1: be joining me to talk about our friendship and our
Speaker 1: business endeavors. For those of you who don't know, Vanessa
Speaker 1: has been a part of my life and a part
Speaker 1: of my family's life for quite some time. I am
Speaker 1: so ready to get into this conversation, So let's do it.
Speaker 3: This is Cheeky's and chill all right, y'alls.
Speaker 1: Sitting here with me right now is Vanessa Sanchez, my boo.
Speaker 1: She's actually right down the street for me, you guys.
Speaker 1: She lives like literally down the street from me.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So she's a hair stylist who has worked celebrities like
Speaker 1: my mother Jenny Rivera. She's also worked with Kate del Castillo,
Speaker 1: whom we've had on the podcast before. That was a
Speaker 1: really great interview, by the way, and she's also my
Speaker 1: hairstylist friend and business partner.
Speaker 3: Hipoo, how are you Hipoo?
Speaker 2: I'm good. It's a little nervous, but I'm good.
Speaker 3: Don't be nervous. It's okay.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's a conversation you know, between
Speaker 1: go mother is because she's also my go mother, you guys, yes,
Speaker 1: and talking about her children because I'm the Nina of
Speaker 1: two of her children. Today's her daughter's graduation and I'm
Speaker 1: just so grateful that you took the time out of
Speaker 1: this important date to be on the podcast with us,
Speaker 1: so thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you. Yes. Luckily, her graduation isn't until this evening,
Speaker 2: so I was able to do both. So I'm super
Speaker 2: excited and nervous, and you know, I'm very proud.
Speaker 1: You should be very proud. She is such a beautiful
Speaker 1: you guys. She's beautiful from the outside and the inside.
Speaker 1: She's super smart. And that's her eldest and she's graduating
Speaker 1: from nursing school, you guys.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we're gonna have a nurse to take care
Speaker 2: of us.
Speaker 1: Yes, my bees and all that kind of stuff. Both talks,
Speaker 1: maybe right, So congratulations on that to all of you,
Speaker 1: because it's her dad, you and and her stepdad your husband,
Speaker 1: So you guys did a great job. So you guys,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a lot of things because I
Speaker 1: have gotten comments before, not as much as like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like ten years ago, when people would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: how is Vanessa your friend? And didn't she want to
Speaker 1: kick your ass because she was your mom's friend, And I.
Speaker 3: Was like, uh, yes, that is all correct.
Speaker 1: And we've never talked about it, like we've never like
Speaker 1: and we're not talked about it. We've talked about it,
Speaker 1: but we haven't talked about it in public, and Vanessa's
Speaker 1: is one of the few people that were very close
Speaker 1: to my mom the last two years of her life,
Speaker 1: especially the last days, you guys, of my mom's life.
Speaker 1: Vanessa was there and she's never spoken about that publicly,
Speaker 1: and I am grateful for that.
Speaker 3: I know my siblings are grateful for that. And we
Speaker 3: just didn't like.
Speaker 1: Really think, oh it's necessary to talk about certain details.
Speaker 1: But now time has passed and now I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: well it's part of my story. So anyways, Vanessa was
Speaker 1: my mom's friends.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 1: They started off because my mom needed a hairstylist, so
Speaker 1: Vanessa did her hair, and from there it turned into
Speaker 1: a friendship and you spent a lot of time with her,
Speaker 1: especially the last day. So tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about how you guys met.
Speaker 2: Where we met. She was looking for a hairdresser and
Speaker 2: she said she was gonna call me, and I was
Speaker 2: like really, I was like, Jenny's gonna call me, and
Speaker 2: I thought it was like not true, you know, it
Speaker 2: was like whatever, And sure enough, they had told me
Speaker 2: at the time that her phone number started with an
Speaker 2: nine O nine area code, and you know, I never
Speaker 2: answered random numbers and They're like, make sure you answer
Speaker 2: that nine o nine number. It's gonna be Jenny. And
Speaker 2: I was like okay. And then like two days went
Speaker 2: by and she get call. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just probably a bunch of like bs, she's not
Speaker 2: gonna call. And then she I saw a nine o
Speaker 2: nine number come through and I was like holy shit,
Speaker 2: and I was like okay, So I answered the phone
Speaker 2: and I still forget. I was in the middle of
Speaker 2: the salon and I walked to the back to the
Speaker 2: color room to take the call, and she just said, hey, girl,
Speaker 2: it's me Jenny. And I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh, hey, how are you you know?
Speaker 2: So she asked me if I still did extensions, if
Speaker 2: I took that you know that class, And which was
Speaker 2: the funny thing was that the first time I met her,
Speaker 2: she had extensions in her hair, and I was concerned,
Speaker 2: not concerned. I was I didn't do them at the time.
Speaker 2: So I was debating. We're talking like I don't know
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago what extension line to go through, which class,
Speaker 2: And it was like a lot of money. It was
Speaker 2: like either a class was like either seventeen hundred or
Speaker 2: three thousand dollars to learn how to do extensions. So
Speaker 2: I didn't know where to put my investment in, you know,
Speaker 2: and I was a lot of money, like for me
Speaker 2: back then, and I mean it still is, but I
Speaker 2: mean it was a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so I was like, let me, let me
Speaker 2: ask her which one she has and what she recommends
Speaker 2: since she wears them. And she's like, oh, I love
Speaker 2: these extensions and you know, I love hairlocks and they're
Speaker 2: the best. And I was like, okay, So I was
Speaker 2: between hairlocks and like I forgot the other brand, like
Speaker 2: Great Lines or something like that back in the day.
Speaker 2: So I took the class, I made the investment, and
Speaker 2: that was it. Like I didn't ever call her to
Speaker 2: tell her that, you know, I had taken the course
Speaker 2: or anything like that. And I continue doing extensions for
Speaker 2: like a good solid five years. When she called and asked, hey,
Speaker 2: did you ever take that class?
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was like I did so five years later,
Speaker 2: five years later, Like it was like a seed was planted.
Speaker 2: And I'll never like forget that because I could have said, no,
Speaker 2: you know, I took the other route that was cheap,
Speaker 2: but I took the route that you know, I just said,
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm gonna take it. And I did, and
Speaker 2: she goes, how good are you? And I said I'm
Speaker 2: really good. I've been doing them for like five years.
Speaker 2: And she's like wow, okay, and she said, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have my assistant at the time was Julie. And
Speaker 2: she goes, I'm gonna have my assistant drop off my
Speaker 2: hair and that way you can go and order hair
Speaker 2: for me. And I was like okay, and she did.
Speaker 2: Julie came and dropped off all these samples of hair,
Speaker 2: and I was like, then I didn't know what to
Speaker 2: do because the hair was really expensive, and I was like,
Speaker 2: how do I pay for all this? It's like almost
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars worth of hair, and like what if
Speaker 2: she doesn't show up? But I don't want to act
Speaker 2: like I'm broke and I can't afford to buy her
Speaker 2: hair beforehand. So I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: just going to take a leap of faith and I'm
Speaker 2: just going to buy the hair. And because it's non
Speaker 2: refundable and it's expensive, and it's expensive, so I was
Speaker 2: like yeah, So I did, and I went and I
Speaker 2: bought all her hair, and I bought extra cause I
Speaker 2: was like, what if it's not enough? And then like
Speaker 2: what if it's you know, I just so I ended
Speaker 2: up spending like probably close to like twenty five hundred
Speaker 2: dollars just on hair for her, and I was like
Speaker 2: so scared because I'm like, if she doesn't show up
Speaker 2: or she doesn't like it, I'm freaking screwed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, she had asked for complete privacy because she had
Speaker 2: had a fallen out with her hairdresser for not having
Speaker 2: privacy in her hair salon visits. And I said, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, so I went in on a on a Monday,
Speaker 2: which was a day off, my day off, my salon
Speaker 2: was closed, and she was about an hour and a
Speaker 2: half late, and I was sitting there thinking like, damn,
Speaker 2: she's not gonna show up. You know.
Speaker 1: She was an hour and a half late, an hour
Speaker 1: and a half late, So Jenny, that is so Jenny.
Speaker 2: Then, so then I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: call her. And I called her. She's like, hey girl,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I got tied up, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm literally down the street, I'm on my way, and
Speaker 2: I was like Okay, well that's good, you know, like
Speaker 2: that's fine. You know. So she came in and it
Speaker 2: was just like I was so nervous too, Like I
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit. And then when I saw her hair,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait, you don't only need extensions, like
Speaker 2: you need your whole hair done, like your roots, your highlights.
Speaker 2: She goes, I know, and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Okay, she forgot that a very small detail.
Speaker 2: Right, And I was like, oh okay. So now I'm
Speaker 2: like now I'm doing color and I'm doing all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And so in a nutshell, it was like about eight
Speaker 2: hours later because back then we had to do individual extensions,
Speaker 2: which now I only do like tapein's or sew in
Speaker 2: and it was like one by one, so two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty pieces individually put into her hair.
Speaker 3: That's insane. I remember though, she loved those damn things.
Speaker 2: She loved those damn things, and I was like, it.
Speaker 1: Would pull my hair out, but she was like stuck
Speaker 1: on them. And she my mom wore extensions for years,
Speaker 1: you guys. She could not see herself with that extensions.
Speaker 3: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: So eight hours later, you know, and I showed her
Speaker 2: hair and she like loved it. I still have the
Speaker 2: picture of the day that I showed her the back
Speaker 2: of her hair and she goes, you passed the test,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what test? And then she goes
Speaker 2: the hairdressing test. My hair looks she was like grabbed it.
Speaker 2: She's like, I love it. It looks amazing, and you
Speaker 2: know this is that. I was like, I didn't know
Speaker 2: it was being tested. She was, oh, you were being tested.
Speaker 1: That is so Jenny fashion, Like it is just hurt
Speaker 1: it to test you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And she's like, Okay, I just want you to know
Speaker 3: your own trial. You're on probation. I just kind of
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: But but that's awesome because now I didn't know this
Speaker 1: whole story about like she had told you to take
Speaker 1: the class. So it's like she has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with Oh yeah, like your cap year and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you've been doing her for
Speaker 1: like what twenty five years, twenty eight years, twenty eight years,
Speaker 1: you guys, and she's Vanessa, still looks real good, you guys,
Speaker 1: just fy. She has four kids. But like, so you've
Speaker 1: been doing hair for a long ass time. But I
Speaker 1: didn't know this story, which is awesome. Look, I'm even
Speaker 1: learning something, you know, you guys, and I know that
Speaker 1: she's been. She was a huge part of like your career,
Speaker 1: but also as like a mother and as a wife,
Speaker 1: you know, like she was a very good friend to
Speaker 1: you in that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was. She was like I always say, like
Speaker 2: the sister I never have.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's true. And she has you have her
Speaker 3: tattooed on your arm?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have her on them.
Speaker 3: She got it done after my mom passed. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I remember, like that Thursday before she left, I
Speaker 2: was packed for her to go to Monterrey and she
Speaker 2: was showing me on her phone some pictures of fans
Speaker 2: of hers that had tattoos of her, like a girl
Speaker 2: that had one like in her back, smoking and different things,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, they're crazy. I told her, who would
Speaker 2: tattoo you? Like, I mean, you're good, but like to
Speaker 2: put you on there like that, that's insane. And she goes,
Speaker 2: what are you jealous, bitch? And I said, no, I'm
Speaker 2: just like I would just never do that, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I love Prince. At the time, Prince was still alive,
Speaker 2: and I said, but I would never go blast prints
Speaker 2: on my body like that's insane.
Speaker 3: And then not even and look, you guys.
Speaker 2: I ate my words, not even not even a month
Speaker 2: maybe two months later, she was my first portrait.
Speaker 1: It's because she impacted your life so much. And yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about all of that. But anyways, okay,
Speaker 1: So my mom picky with her hair.
Speaker 2: She wasn't picky. I mean, she was picky, but not
Speaker 2: She wasn't a fool diva when it came to her
Speaker 2: hair unless we were like about to go on stage.
Speaker 2: Then she was a real diva. Like right before she
Speaker 2: went on, she would like nitpick and she would take
Speaker 2: the curly nine for me and start culling her own
Speaker 2: hair that I already curled, and I was like, whatever,
Speaker 2: just it makes her feel good that she's doing. She's
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Though even with her makeup, she wanted to do her
Speaker 1: own eyebrows. Scara her only good liner.
Speaker 2: I'm like, so you're just paying for eyeshadow, foundation and contour.
Speaker 3: Exactly because she was a little bit of a control freak.
Speaker 1: So I know she wanted her curls a certain way
Speaker 1: where those curls, in my opinion, aren't in anymore right,
Speaker 1: and they were kind of not in back then. But
Speaker 1: for her, it's like I want my curly hair because
Speaker 1: throughout the show, right, you know. But she was so
Speaker 1: picky if like one curl was at a place, you
Speaker 1: guys should be like hold on, you miss And even
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: Fast I would always have like a little spot that
Speaker 2: I would miss her hair. She's also delave this for good.
Speaker 3: Luck or what like that's true. She's like this is
Speaker 3: for good luck.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: She would and you would think she's not paying attention
Speaker 1: because she would be on her phone all day, like
Speaker 1: when you were doing her hair her makeup, but then
Speaker 1: she she would know she won't see that thing.
Speaker 2: Everything. She knew everything was going on. If like the
Speaker 2: era was like wrong between like me and one of
Speaker 2: the other people on her team were not getting along,
Speaker 2: she was like so swapping, what did they do to you?
Speaker 2: What's going on? Like she knew she knew something was off,
Speaker 2: like very instantly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, she knew. My mother was very busy, but
Speaker 3: very present.
Speaker 2: I remember one time that we were at Deno Talento
Speaker 2: and I had got I was pregnant at the time,
Speaker 2: and I had a big fight with my kid's father
Speaker 2: at the time, and I was just like holding it together. Like,
Speaker 2: so I did her hair and I didn't like shed
Speaker 2: one tear, like, but I was like broken by some
Speaker 2: stuff that had happened between me and him. But I
Speaker 2: was like, this is work and I have to like
Speaker 2: separate the two. And again I didn't say a word
Speaker 2: to her. I didn't say anything, and she went. I
Speaker 2: did her hair, She performed, and she came back and
Speaker 2: she closed the door and she asked everybody to get out,
Speaker 2: and I was like, am I getting fired? Like what
Speaker 2: the fuck is why is she doing that? She goes,
Speaker 2: she touched me, She goes, what's wrong? What did you
Speaker 2: do you? And I was like this and my tears
Speaker 2: just went.
Speaker 3: That's so crazy, Vanessa. I'm like that, Yeah, she's.
Speaker 2: Like waited, she waited to go and do what she
Speaker 2: had to do because she didn't have time to like
Speaker 2: obviously address it. And I wasn't going to bring it up,
Speaker 2: like I'm not going to pawn my problems onto her,
Speaker 2: like she was about to go on stage, like that's
Speaker 2: not it's not what I do. But yeah, she came
Speaker 2: back and then she was just like what happened? What
Speaker 2: did he do? I know, I know something's wrong, and
Speaker 2: I'm like how I didn't say a word.
Speaker 1: It's because she's she was very human, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And that's one thing that is a good
Speaker 1: thing and a bad thing. And I have become like
Speaker 1: that where I my my employees become like my family,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's not just like come and do
Speaker 1: a service for me and that's it. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: like they become part of our family or extended family.
Speaker 1: So I think she she would feel it. She was
Speaker 1: very like in tune with her feelings in other people
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: No matter how busy she was, she.
Speaker 1: Always took the time to like text you, hey, how
Speaker 1: are you and and she would respond, even if it
Speaker 1: was hours later, she would respond. And it's just little
Speaker 1: things like that that people don't know. And I think
Speaker 1: the whole funny thing about this is obviously when you
Speaker 1: know Jenny was supposed to call you, you know Jenny Rivera,
Speaker 1: and she like for me, I didn't know that you
Speaker 1: weren't like a fan, not even of the music you
Speaker 1: guys have, regional music. She didn't anything. She didn't know
Speaker 1: about nothing. It was just I know, Jenny Rivera is
Speaker 1: a famous person. I'm doing a famous person. But she
Speaker 1: wasn't like a fan fan, you guys. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: I love her music and I love.
Speaker 2: I'm honestly a fan of her music. Like where I'm
Speaker 2: like loved it till and it's crazy to say like
Speaker 2: after she left, because to me, she was just my friend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So it didn't like it didn't like I would think
Speaker 2: she was bad ass and I loved it when I
Speaker 2: started working with her, but not till after I was like,
Speaker 2: holy fuck, I realized the magnitude of what she offered
Speaker 2: to everybody as opposed to like when I was. I
Speaker 2: met her as a friend and as a criant. So
Speaker 2: it did it? Did it? I wasn't a fan.
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1: I think that that makes it even more special because
Speaker 1: people could say, oh, you know, it's all about Clout
Speaker 1: and you know, writing her coattel and it's like, actually,
Speaker 1: it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It was quite the opposite. And how long did you
Speaker 3: do her.
Speaker 2: Hair before she left? I guess I met her the
Speaker 2: first time into on thousand and seven, and then I
Speaker 2: started doing our hair I believe in like two thousand
Speaker 2: and nine.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so yeah, so that's the story with them,
Speaker 1: and how they met you, guys, my mom and I
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, we had a big fallout. Some of
Speaker 1: you may know, some of you might know, but you
Speaker 1: guys can read the stories in both my books, you know,
Speaker 1: Forgiveness or Unbreakable.
Speaker 3: No wait, Unbreakable, Unstoppable, Unstoppable, Yeah, unstoppable. That's my mom.
Speaker 1: My mom's unbreakable. Oh mom, Wait, So anyways, that's a
Speaker 1: detailed story. But in twenty twelve. October of twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: my mom and I had a huge fallout the beginning
Speaker 1: of the month with my sister, Jenica's Quintennera and I
Speaker 1: was very scared to go because my mom was like,
Speaker 1: you can't bring anyone. You're gonna come and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not talking, but you need to be here for
Speaker 1: your sister.
Speaker 3: And I said, okay, So there I go.
Speaker 1: I was so nervous and no one was talking to me.
Speaker 1: It was just a huge, huge, huge misunderstanding. There were
Speaker 1: a lot of people that I feel didn't want to
Speaker 1: see my mom and I close, so a lot of
Speaker 1: people had to do a chatt on man non esto.
Speaker 3: It went on.
Speaker 1: Vanessa being her friend was the one that I was
Speaker 1: like scared of the most because I remember walking in
Speaker 1: and she looked at me. She gave me eyes of death.
Speaker 1: I said, this bitch is gonna fuck me up. And yeah,
Speaker 1: she was like, you gave me these eyes, you know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my gosh. And I'll never
Speaker 1: forget that because I was like shaking in my boots.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I know I shouldn't fight, and
Speaker 1: Vanessa probably kicked my ass, but I think it was
Speaker 1: because in that time, it was just difficult.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Time it was like if you weren't on my mom's
Speaker 1: side to say the least, or you know, it was
Speaker 1: like you're against me sort of thing, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was more like I was one sided.
Speaker 2: And I guess, you know, like I said, seeing your mom, like,
Speaker 2: you know, go through what she went through in those
Speaker 2: last you know, moments, and how she would cry and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So it got to a point where
Speaker 2: I had to make a decision to have her back,
Speaker 2: because not that I believed that what she was believing
Speaker 2: was true. It was more like for her own sanity
Speaker 2: and for her own safety, she needed to know like
Speaker 2: I believed her even though that were around her. Yes,
Speaker 2: if you were on her team. If you were left
Speaker 2: the little people that were left on our team, you
Speaker 2: had to be one hundred percent on our team because
Speaker 2: if you brought any little thing, I would have smiled
Speaker 2: at you or would have like been nice to you.
Speaker 2: It would have been I don't know what would have happened.
Speaker 1: Right, She needed to feel that, she needed to feel
Speaker 1: that the people that are closest to her and that
Speaker 1: she loved and you know, loved her that no matter
Speaker 1: what they were with her. So just to give a
Speaker 1: little bit of a backstory, you guys, because some of
Speaker 1: you may not know this, and I don't.
Speaker 3: Really like to talk about it anymore, but someone started
Speaker 3: this rumor.
Speaker 1: That I had slept with my mom's husband, Esteman, and
Speaker 1: that is absolutely false. That never happened, it never will happen.
Speaker 1: They said that there was a video, and there is
Speaker 1: a video. There is a video, but there's nothing on
Speaker 1: that video, any inappropriate conduct, nothing, And Vanessa watched it
Speaker 1: along with Johnny, my brother, for hours and hours and
Speaker 1: hours at a time.
Speaker 2: Yes, that that is correct, and that's that's something that
Speaker 2: I have never spoken on because of respect to you,
Speaker 2: your brothers, and I mean your siblings. You know, I
Speaker 2: love your family very much, and to me, it's like,
Speaker 2: it's not my place to go and you know, get interviews.
Speaker 2: I mean I got offered tons of interviews after your
Speaker 2: mom passed away, and I was like, that's not that's
Speaker 2: not who I am, that's not my style. I won't
Speaker 2: do that, you know. But now it's been so many
Speaker 2: years that it's happened, and you know, I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know what, like Cheeky's like, obviously our friendship has
Speaker 2: grown and we're we've been closed for a very long time,
Speaker 2: and it's very frustrating and upsetting to me the way people,
Speaker 2: the media, other family members of yours tried to not
Speaker 2: defend you and drag your name through the through the gutter.
Speaker 2: When I I all that video for about four to
Speaker 2: six hours with your mom over and over with Johnny
Speaker 2: with Julie. We sat in her room and Johnny was
Speaker 2: going back up and down the stairs seeing it.
Speaker 3: And Johnny at like the age of what hell does.
Speaker 2: He like nine? He was the old woman that I
Speaker 2: know how to work the computers. Yeah, So he was
Speaker 2: playing I'm back and forth and he was like, what's
Speaker 2: going on, mama, Mama, She's like, go play it back
Speaker 2: to you know whatever. He's like, okay, mama, and he
Speaker 2: kept like going up and down the stairs, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: as I was watching this video with her, I'm like thinking, like, whoa,
Speaker 2: what are we going to see? What's gonna happen? Because
Speaker 2: we've already been watching it for like X amount of
Speaker 2: time And by the vibe in the room was like
Speaker 2: I was thinking I was going to see some like
Speaker 2: crazy shit, and I'm like, I don't see anything. I
Speaker 2: don't see anything like what's going on? And I would
Speaker 2: look at her and I would look at Julie and
Speaker 2: I'm like, is she going crazy? Or am I like blind?
Speaker 2: Like what's going on? And then it got to the
Speaker 2: point where I realized, I mean, and I know this
Speaker 2: may sound bad. I don't know if the delusionals the
Speaker 2: world just over. We're tired. She just was seeing something
Speaker 2: that wasn't there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It was going through a lot.
Speaker 1: And there was one particular woman And I talk about
Speaker 1: this in my book, you guys, so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Go read it if you want to know the full story.
Speaker 3: But there was one.
Speaker 1: Particular woman that had just entered her life a few
Speaker 1: months before who was just in her ear, and I
Speaker 1: think wanted to take control and was putting just so
Speaker 1: many toxic things in her that I think my mom
Speaker 1: just wasn't thinking clearly, and she was exhausted, and she
Speaker 1: was losing weight rapidly, so I think she wasn't eating enough.
Speaker 1: She was also having issues with a step on, her husband,
Speaker 1: and then this whole thing and the video. We're talking
Speaker 1: about surveillance cameras. You guys, she had a camera. We
Speaker 1: had cameras all over the house and in our house
Speaker 1: in Encino and even inside in the stairs to see
Speaker 1: who would go into the bedrooms.
Speaker 3: So in that video, you.
Speaker 1: See me walking into my mom's bedroom to say bye
Speaker 1: to a step on because my mom wasn't home and
Speaker 1: I was in in there for no more than five
Speaker 1: minutes together, and you see me walk out down the stairs.
Speaker 1: Outside of the door, you see my car drive away exactly,
Speaker 1: my little buggy drive away, and that's it. So I
Speaker 1: was just like what When I finally watched this video,
Speaker 1: because I didn't watch it until after she passed, I
Speaker 1: was like.
Speaker 2: What the hell?
Speaker 1: How where do you clearly see me walk into the
Speaker 1: room and the camera is counting down and it's not
Speaker 1: even five minutes. It's a little bit less than five minutes.
Speaker 1: You see me walk down and leave. So I was
Speaker 1: just like, what is happening? Like, I was so confused.
Speaker 1: I was devastated, you guys, I was devastated for two
Speaker 1: months of my life before my mom passed away.
Speaker 3: So that was in October.
Speaker 2: And then I would want to clarify something that people
Speaker 2: say that just this is like one hundred percent real
Speaker 2: the truth. They say she was walking out of the
Speaker 2: room fixing her clothes. That is fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3: Oh that I was.
Speaker 2: She was not walking that you were, and you did
Speaker 2: not walk out of the room fixing your clothes. I
Speaker 2: put my life on the line, my four children on
Speaker 2: the line, like that you walked out of the room
Speaker 2: and you just like skip your happy way down the
Speaker 2: stairs like there was no there was nothing of that sort, like,
Speaker 2: and I know that, and I vouched that one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: you know, and I watched that video and there's that
Speaker 2: wasn't the case, like at all. It was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was something that completely devastated me for years
Speaker 1: until one day. I mean, obviously, you guys know I
Speaker 1: go to therapy. I love therapy. Twenty thirteen was one
Speaker 1: of the worst years of my life, living without my mother,
Speaker 1: trying to raise my siblings, dealing with this shit the media,
Speaker 1: and just wanting my family to come out, the people
Speaker 1: that had watched that video to come out and defend me,
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't.
Speaker 3: And it was just I was little. I was living
Speaker 3: in hell.
Speaker 1: It was horrible, and thank goodness my strength and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I said, let me take
Speaker 1: this negative thing that happened in my life and see
Speaker 1: it as something positive.
Speaker 3: And it gave me the strength.
Speaker 1: And I feel like my mom in some way because
Speaker 1: we never got to talk about it, like thoroughly, and
Speaker 1: for me to show her my evidence, and I had evidence.
Speaker 1: I have the evidence still. I have the phone bill,
Speaker 1: I have everything. I was like, look, mom, this is
Speaker 1: where I was. I would have never ever done that,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And I told her that, I said, let her show
Speaker 2: you the phone bill that she was on the phone
Speaker 2: with Angel, like it's everything's tracked.
Speaker 3: Angel's my ex boyfriend, you guys, yeah, oh yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like or yeah, she was on the phone.
Speaker 2: And so I said, let her show you the thing.
Speaker 2: She goes, oh, papers could be altered, I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: but not the online can't be altered if we log in,
Speaker 2: if she brings her computer, she logs into the you know,
Speaker 2: the Verizon. I believe you had Verizon at the time.
Speaker 2: She had told me, and she goes, we log into Verizon.
Speaker 2: She can't alter the website. Yeah, if it's if you're
Speaker 2: on the phone for step forty seven minutes to somebody,
Speaker 2: you can't change that on a computer in front of
Speaker 2: you at Verizon dot com. You can't. And I said, no,
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 1: It's it almost like she didn't want to fix things.
Speaker 1: And I keep thinking and thinking about it because I
Speaker 1: was the second time that my mom and I had
Speaker 1: a fallout for two to three months.
Speaker 3: You guys, that's the second time.
Speaker 1: The first time I was fifteen years old, and then
Speaker 1: it happened before she passed, right, So I just feel like,
Speaker 1: not that she knew she was going to pass, but
Speaker 1: it's just like God's plan is so perfect because it
Speaker 1: gave me the strength to be there for my siblings.
Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened if I would
Speaker 1: have had the strength, if I would have broken down.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I didn't have those two and
Speaker 1: a half months before my mom passed to prepare myself
Speaker 1: and to go to therapy and for the therapist to
Speaker 1: tell me, well, you got to start living your life
Speaker 1: as if your mother's not here, because it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like you guys are gonna fix things, so you need
Speaker 1: to start just coming to.
Speaker 3: Terms with that.
Speaker 1: And that was two weeks before my mom passed, and
Speaker 1: then not saying that it didn't hurt me when she passed.
Speaker 1: I just was a little further in the healing process,
Speaker 1: in the greeting process than everyone else. So anyways, that's
Speaker 1: just a little bit of it. And that's how this
Speaker 1: whole thing happened. And that's so why because some people
Speaker 1: know this story, and some people knew that Vanessa was
Speaker 1: really close to my mom and now she's really close
Speaker 1: to me, and so people taught crap and say, oh
Speaker 1: my god, why is Vanessa now you're co madre and
Speaker 1: your friend all of a sudden and one of your
Speaker 1: best friends, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: It must be because it's.
Speaker 1: Clout And I'm like, uh no, that means that she
Speaker 1: was a very loyal friend and she knew right when
Speaker 1: my mom passed, she we fixed things. Everyone was at
Speaker 1: my grandma's house for like two weeks straight. We slept
Speaker 1: at my grandma's house, and Vanessa was one of the
Speaker 1: people that was there almost every day for hours and
Speaker 1: hours at a time. And I remember telling someone at
Speaker 1: my grandma's house, I'm like, you know what, I'm just nervous.
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like Vanessa's gonna kick my ass,
Speaker 1: like I don't know. And so they sat us down
Speaker 1: and Vanessa apologized, and you know, she just said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I had to be there for your mom. But I
Speaker 1: got to tell you, I never thought that you did
Speaker 1: it that you did that. It's just I had to
Speaker 1: be on your mom's like I had to show her
Speaker 1: at her back.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely, And you know, to bring up like
Speaker 2: even Thanksgiving, you wrote her an email and she at
Speaker 2: my house. She was at my house when she read
Speaker 2: the email, and she was broken and she was crying
Speaker 2: so hard, and I thought something that like bad had
Speaker 2: happened to you, Like I thought like maybe like you
Speaker 2: had passed away, because she was the way she was crying.
Speaker 2: She was so devastated. And then when I said, what
Speaker 2: is it, and she had a little BlackBerry and she
Speaker 2: was like scrolling down and showing me the email and
Speaker 2: reading it. To me, and she was just crying and
Speaker 2: crying and crying. So then I grabbed her by her
Speaker 2: shoulders and I was like, look, Jen, I was like,
Speaker 2: you need to make a fucking choice, like you need
Speaker 2: to a make a public apology and say you're sorry
Speaker 2: that you messed up, or if your daughter did do that,
Speaker 2: you need to forgive her regardless, because it's killing you.
Speaker 2: She you know, you need to make a choice. That's it,
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna end up, like look at you. And
Speaker 2: she just said with that look on her face, and
Speaker 2: she told me she's like I know, I know. She
Speaker 2: was like I'm just not ready. I'm I wait until
Speaker 2: I get back from Mexico. So she knew that she
Speaker 2: had made a mistake and she didn't know how to
Speaker 2: fix it. She didn't know how to backpedal because she
Speaker 2: was like, damn, I'm in so deep, like I've done
Speaker 2: so much stuff and I was wrong and it was
Speaker 2: I think it was so hard for her to accept it,
Speaker 2: and she was like, I'm gonna have to fix this,
Speaker 2: and she had it on the back burner because she
Speaker 2: wanted to finish her concert in Monterrey, come back and
Speaker 2: fix things. But you know, time didn't allow that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that was that Thanksgiving. I remember writing
Speaker 1: that email and I just said, I'm going to send it.
Speaker 1: This is going to be the last time that I
Speaker 1: try to reach out because I had just talked to
Speaker 1: my therapist and I just said, I love you and
Speaker 1: I'm here whenever you want to see my evidence. I
Speaker 1: miss you. Happy Thanksgiving. I spent that Thanksgiving by myself,
Speaker 1: you guys, and then thank God, one of my really
Speaker 1: good friends she invited me to her house because I
Speaker 1: was that's my favorite holiday. So my mom knew that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she knew that, and she knew that, and she and
Speaker 1: I think it was like we were missing each other
Speaker 1: so much, so much, so it was it was really hard.
Speaker 1: And then you know, she passed and Vanessa was there
Speaker 1: with my mom that Thursday. My mom flew out, I
Speaker 1: think on on Thursday. My mom passed on Sunday, so
Speaker 1: she was there with her, sleeping in her bed with her.
Speaker 1: And then my mom never came back. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: say that you felt something, huh Oh, yeah, I felt.
Speaker 2: It one hundred percent. I knew like something was like
Speaker 2: and I just felt it just this her energy like
Speaker 2: the era like everything like and she wanted to take
Speaker 2: everything with her, Like she took so much stuff, and
Speaker 2: I was like, why are you taking all this stuff?
Speaker 2: She's because it's mine and I can And I was like, okay.
Speaker 1: Like she loved her diamonds, you guys, so she took
Speaker 1: all her expensive, most expensive diamonds with her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she never would when she would go to Mexico,
Speaker 2: she would take her other stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, forwarding to now what almost eleven years later,
Speaker 1: Vanessa and I, with time little by little started becoming
Speaker 1: really close. And after that conversation and she apologized and
Speaker 1: I said, okay, cool.
Speaker 3: She started doing my hair.
Speaker 1: She was the first one to help me with my
Speaker 1: hair and makeup at like literally she wouldn't charge me.
Speaker 1: You guys, I felt like that that was your way,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, we've never really talked about it,
Speaker 1: like your way of saying I'm sorry and also being
Speaker 1: there being a good friend to my mom. You knew
Speaker 1: how important her kids were, so it's like her daughter's
Speaker 1: about to embark on this new journey of singing. The
Speaker 1: best thing I could do for my friend and for
Speaker 1: her daughter is to be there for her. So she
Speaker 1: didn't charge me. You guys for like years. So she
Speaker 1: would do my extensions and my color and we would
Speaker 1: travel together. And that's how it started. And it just
Speaker 1: grew into being go Madrees and now we have a
Speaker 1: business together. But it's been what since my mom passed, basically.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean we were friends before then, but yeah,
Speaker 2: but then.
Speaker 1: We were cool, but you were more my mom's friend,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's something that Vanessa
Speaker 1: and people I think wonder, like why we stopped working together.
Speaker 1: It was more because Vanessa was trying to work things
Speaker 1: out with her ex husband or her baby daddy and
Speaker 1: the kids were little, and I would think like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like you traveling and the traveling and I
Speaker 1: just felt very like and my mom felt the same
Speaker 1: way too.
Speaker 3: Remember she might want to take you.
Speaker 2: With her, you don't want to take me. I was
Speaker 2: actually supposed to go with her to Mexico. We talked
Speaker 2: about it and then at the time, my son was
Speaker 2: only six months old, and she said, no, the baby's
Speaker 2: too small, like you need to stay here with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And see, those are things that people don't know
Speaker 1: about my mother. My mom was very selfless in that
Speaker 1: way of Okay, I don't want to take you from
Speaker 1: your kids and something happens. I don't want your kids
Speaker 1: to be motherless because they're so little. There were babies,
Speaker 1: you know, so because Renee, you were pregnant, you had
Speaker 1: just had Renee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when your mom passed, I had had Renee was
Speaker 2: six months old. But you know I had Lolan Renee.
Speaker 2: They were both under two years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, So then when I started my career
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, they were babies. They were little babies.
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing. You know, other stuff little happened,
Speaker 1: little cheese mes and all that. But we fixed it
Speaker 1: and here we are and now we have we're business partners.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're we have a very very great hair hairline.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's called Plantitas, and we started what we were
Speaker 1: just we had a meeting yesterday. We had a numbers
Speaker 1: meeting with our accountant. And it's doing very well thanks
Speaker 1: to all of you guys. And if you still haven't
Speaker 1: tried it out, you guys need to go to the website,
Speaker 1: okay and check out our products. But it's been what
Speaker 1: two years, you know, so it's been too And because
Speaker 1: again Vanessa has so much experience in the hair world,
Speaker 1: I trusted her, I was like, I want her to
Speaker 1: be my business partner, and I love taking care of
Speaker 1: my hair, and I think we're amazing business partners.
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think it's really good because
Speaker 2: we like bounce off each other, you know, and like
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, you have been you know,
Speaker 2: always into your hair as well. So when I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's try this product, let's try this out, you're a
Speaker 2: good guinea pig, You're like, okay, yeah, I like this. No,
Speaker 2: I don't like the boo. I don't like this as
Speaker 2: sooth thick or it's you know, it makes it weighs
Speaker 2: my hair down and stuff like that. So it's it's good,
Speaker 2: you know. And we're both Latina strong, you know, thriving, hardworking, hardworking,
Speaker 2: and I think it's good, very honest. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's very good that you know, we're able to show
Speaker 2: I feel like other Latinas like it's good to like
Speaker 2: empower each other women and make sure that you know,
Speaker 2: we support all businesses, you know, like I love to
Speaker 2: support like anywhere from like you know, people that make strawberries,
Speaker 2: that make T shirts, you know, graphic designers, like everybody,
Speaker 2: like most everybody on my team on our team is
Speaker 2: a woman, like there is no man on the team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's not that we're biased, but
Speaker 2: I feel like I just love helping and you know,
Speaker 2: having the women around and then men just throw everything off.
Speaker 2: It's like, forget it.
Speaker 3: Women, we just do things better. We multitask very well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like every now and then I'll have my husband,
Speaker 2: I can you move these boxes? And he's like I
Speaker 2: thought I could do. I'm like, yeah, just move the boxes.
Speaker 2: We need your man power.
Speaker 3: I love David.
Speaker 1: Shout out to David, her husband, Sergeant Moreno, Sergeant Reno.
Speaker 3: Yes, so so yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing like when you were saying
Speaker 1: that I was a guinea pig, because that's how it started,
Speaker 1: you guys.
Speaker 3: It was very organic.
Speaker 1: Like she started with her CBD line because she has
Speaker 1: what is the thing that the TMJ TMJ.
Speaker 2: She's actually the one that told me to do the CBD.
Speaker 2: And I can't smoke weed because I like get paranoia,
Speaker 2: like I can. I've tried every kind and it does
Speaker 2: not work for me. So she's like, whooh, you need
Speaker 2: to try CBD. It's going to really help you. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell is that. She's like, it's
Speaker 2: not going to make you high. You know.
Speaker 3: I had to educate her on it. She she researched it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I researched it. I started trying different CBDs
Speaker 2: and that was the only thing that was able to
Speaker 2: help my TMJ.
Speaker 1: And so TMJ, it's like when your jaw locks you guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my jaw locks up. And so I started
Speaker 2: with CBD line and then we started getting into like
Speaker 2: the top of boles and rollers and Amnika and I
Speaker 2: was like the ruler. Yeah, and I was like, booh,
Speaker 2: you gotta try this. And she has been my guinea
Speaker 2: pig and like my supporter since day one that I
Speaker 2: started my CBD company, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted for her because she was
Speaker 1: tired of being she loves doing hair, but after so
Speaker 1: many years you guys, being behind a chair. It was
Speaker 1: just just like, I'm like, you need to start a business.
Speaker 2: Do it.
Speaker 1: This is something and the best thing is to have
Speaker 1: a mission statement and a reason behind it, and you
Speaker 1: have a story to tell because this is real. And
Speaker 1: her nervous system was all out of whack. Her stress
Speaker 1: was killing her, so CBD was really the only thing
Speaker 1: that helped calm everything down. So she started that and
Speaker 1: then she's like, I was like, you need to start
Speaker 1: a shampoo line. Honestly, like you need to start a
Speaker 1: shampoo line. And she'say, okay. So she started doing it
Speaker 1: and I started testing everything with her for six months,
Speaker 1: and then we decided to become business partners. And now
Speaker 1: we're barely gonna pay ourselves. You guys see it takes
Speaker 1: yeah a while.
Speaker 2: My god, that's so true.
Speaker 1: Yes, because it's like I want people not to get yeah,
Speaker 1: two years, not to get discouraged. Like, if you're a
Speaker 1: small business starting out, be patient. It's a baby. You
Speaker 1: got to just be patient. There are days where it's
Speaker 1: going to be slower than others. But after two years, guys,
Speaker 1: now we're finally gonna pay ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting a paycheck. And I was so nervous
Speaker 2: to bring it up. Balls off. Well, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: let's go over our numbers. I was like, wait, boo,
Speaker 2: can we get can we get paid?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You were like I was gonna bring it up.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, actually I was.
Speaker 1: Too, So so you guys be patient and just know
Speaker 1: that businesses take a while, and the first couple of
Speaker 1: years it's gonna be tough. But here we are, and
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of us, and hopefully, you know, we
Speaker 1: can inspire you guys to just if you have an idea,
Speaker 1: if you have something that you love doing and you're
Speaker 1: passionate about, just try it, try it, just do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the biggest risk is not taking a risk.
Speaker 2: Right, and then nothing is too small, Like you know,
Speaker 2: like I started with like like four products and I
Speaker 2: think we're up to like thirteen products now, and you know,
Speaker 2: every time we just get bigger and better and we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we can do this. Like yesterday, me and Lacey were
Speaker 2: up to like we were on a good one like
Speaker 2: till like midnight developed like thinking of all these different things,
Speaker 2: and the brain was just going and going. So it's
Speaker 2: like the more it's I guess it's like working out,
Speaker 2: but I don't work out. But like when they say
Speaker 2: an endorphins start going. So I think once I start
Speaker 2: to get into that work mode, I just cannot turn
Speaker 2: it off. I'm like going and going and going and
Speaker 2: and you know, so girls, women out there, just if
Speaker 2: you have an idea, freaking run with it.
Speaker 1: Man, run with it and start like she said small.
Speaker 1: You can have one or two products, give it your all.
Speaker 1: Once you get money from that, then you can get
Speaker 1: another product, and so on and so forth. So just
Speaker 1: be patient, you guys, be patient. Okay, So I have
Speaker 1: a question for you. Are there frozen con to having
Speaker 1: a business partner?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: And don't worry, because I know I'm your business partner.
Speaker 1: But just for people out there, I mean for me personally,
Speaker 1: I feel that there's more prompt pros than con. So
Speaker 1: only con for me personally is that you you know,
Speaker 1: we're fifty fifty partner, so we have to split everything.
Speaker 3: Fifty fifty, right.
Speaker 1: But other than that, it's less work on me and
Speaker 1: I'm busy doing other things. So that's why I love
Speaker 1: having a business partner, a smart business woman. I only
Speaker 1: have business partners that are women, guys, because that's just
Speaker 1: my shit. You know, that's my thing. But anyways, what
Speaker 1: about you, I.
Speaker 2: Honestly, how do I say this without sounding crazy? I
Speaker 2: honestly would never do business with anybody else but you
Speaker 2: because of the fact that you're so busy that you
Speaker 2: let us run with it. If that makes sense. I
Speaker 2: trust you, you know, and there's trust and I know,
Speaker 2: like you have your own money and you're not like
Speaker 2: I've had like known different people and different experiences in
Speaker 2: the past. I had a friend that I did back
Speaker 2: in like I don't want to say, like twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: I was gonna bind, you know, when I got my
Speaker 2: first and I went into partnership with my hair salon
Speaker 2: and that lasted like probably like not even three weeks,
Speaker 2: and she went psycho and I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: never again would I ever do this. Like she came in,
Speaker 2: she tried to change the whole salon around, change the music,
Speaker 2: and she just like I was like, what do you mean,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And after that, I was like,
Speaker 2: I'll never have another partner again. Like with this now
Speaker 2: with me and you, I feel like because we have
Speaker 2: the friendship and like it's not our only source of income.
Speaker 2: So it's like we're you know, we're able to dab
Speaker 2: and you know still like I'm obviously still behind the chair,
Speaker 2: and you know, I have the SEVD line as well,
Speaker 2: and you know.
Speaker 3: I like because I have still growing, it's still.
Speaker 2: Growing, and I like to have my eggs and like
Speaker 2: different baskets and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: it's if you could do it on your own, it's better.
Speaker 2: But if you need if you can find a partner
Speaker 2: that is not relying, if that's not their only source
Speaker 2: of income, then I think it would be okay, it
Speaker 2: would be better because if you guys are both starving
Speaker 2: or starting out and you guys both need money, then
Speaker 2: it's going to be very very difficult, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But us we did it like of course,
Speaker 2: like we need money, but we have other sources of income,
Speaker 2: so we're not our main jobs. We have our main job,
Speaker 2: so this is kind of like a hobby slash like okay,
Speaker 2: let's grow as latinas as women and you know, let's
Speaker 2: get you know, this going, but it's not our only
Speaker 2: thing that we're relying to put food on the table.
Speaker 1: For exactly so, and obviously our ultimate goal would be
Speaker 1: to live off of this brand eventually, you know, correct.
Speaker 1: So don't leave your job guys and say Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna leave my job and go start this business. I
Speaker 1: think you need to have your job still because that's
Speaker 1: gonna bring in financial stability, and do this as or
Speaker 1: your business as a side hustle until it grows and again,
Speaker 1: it takes one to three years, even sometimes even five,
Speaker 1: you guys, to really have a lucrative business. You have
Speaker 1: to be patients. So don't go in there and be
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna leave my job my day. No, keep
Speaker 1: your nine to five or keep whatever it is that
Speaker 1: you're doing. That's basically what we're doing. It's like, I
Speaker 1: have so much faith in this brand that I'm still
Speaker 1: doing my singing, I'm still doing everything else, but I
Speaker 1: still do this and I just thank God that I
Speaker 1: have the platform and the way to share it with
Speaker 1: you guys. And it's something that I'm very passionate about.
Speaker 1: I mean hopefully that inspires you guys. And if you
Speaker 1: guys ever have questions, maybe we should have another podcast
Speaker 1: when I say you and I about you know, just business,
Speaker 1: just like you know, business advice or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would definitely be good to help
Speaker 2: people with that because I always say there's enough business
Speaker 2: to go around everywhere. Like I still buy other hair
Speaker 2: products from other people, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: It's not just because I have mine, I'm only gonna
Speaker 2: buy my product. I'm not. I mean, ours is great,
Speaker 2: it's the best in my eyes, but there's still other
Speaker 2: people that are just as good. You know, it just depends.
Speaker 2: Everybody has different texture, hair, different color, ethnicity. So it's
Speaker 2: not like you can't say, like, this is the best product,
Speaker 2: it's the only one you need, Like, no, you need
Speaker 2: multiple products to create a certain look.
Speaker 3: That's what I love about you. You're not a hater.
Speaker 1: You're not one to be like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I'm the same way, which I think that's why
Speaker 1: it works, you guys, that's another thing in partnerships. You
Speaker 1: have to be transparent, have to be honest. You have
Speaker 1: to have these conversations from the very beginning. Look, we're
Speaker 1: two come out that it is coming together two friends,
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna let this business get between us.
Speaker 1: We have to be honest and we have to learn
Speaker 1: to separate friendship from business. And let's talk numbers and
Speaker 1: let's show each other this is what's going on in
Speaker 1: the bank account, because you don't want to ever have
Speaker 1: tarnish your friendship for business or money.
Speaker 2: Me honestly, that was my first thing, Like I was like,
Speaker 2: there's no way I'm gonna ruin our friendship or any
Speaker 2: friendship at that matter of mine. I have a very
Speaker 2: small circle over money, like there's no value. Yeah, it's priceless.
Speaker 2: It's priceless, is what I meant to say. Like, there's
Speaker 2: no way I'm gonna like over five thousand dollars or
Speaker 2: twenty dollars or ten thousand dollars. Am I going to
Speaker 2: ruin a friendship' That's not it's.
Speaker 1: Not And that's what we're both on that same page
Speaker 1: and we talked about it. That was the first thing
Speaker 1: we talked about when we when we entered this partnership
Speaker 1: and just for you know, to before we close out,
Speaker 1: since you've been doing hair for so long, what is
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's think of a tip that you
Speaker 1: can give people, okay, for extensions for instance, because I
Speaker 1: think everyone is like into tapins or the k tips
Speaker 1: or whatever. Everyone wants its extensions. What is your opinion
Speaker 1: or a tip that you can give people for their
Speaker 1: extensions to last longer. I already know what you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: because you don't you clipping extensions?
Speaker 3: Exact clips? Yeah, yes, I tell them why? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I like clippings because of the fact that any kind
Speaker 2: of extension you're gonna put into your hair, it's gonna
Speaker 2: it's gonna do some minimal damage. It's it's it's depending
Speaker 2: on the technician to the method. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: anybody tells you, like, oh, these don't damage your hair.
Speaker 2: Anything foreign to your hair's gonna damage it. Whether it's
Speaker 2: eyelash extensions, hair extensions, it's gonna do some kind of
Speaker 2: pulling some weight on your hair. So me being that
Speaker 2: been a hair dreser for twenty eight years and I've
Speaker 2: wore extensions all the time. I put them in my
Speaker 2: client's hair all the time, but I let them know, like, hey,
Speaker 2: you need to take breaks me now in between that
Speaker 2: your hair like get healthy and then we can put
Speaker 2: them back in, you know. So my suggestion is like,
Speaker 2: if you already have fine hair, go with clippings. I
Speaker 2: feel like that's just better on and off. But some people,
Speaker 2: you know, if you don't care that you're gonna lose
Speaker 2: a little bit of hair, then just buy your Plantita
Speaker 2: shampoo and it'll grow back.
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that and talking about that.
Speaker 1: Share your social media booth, share your instagram, and share
Speaker 1: the website.
Speaker 2: My instagram is hair by Vanessa Sanchez and our website
Speaker 2: is vspurely Natural dot.
Speaker 1: Com exactly, and then Also she has her hair salon
Speaker 1: you guys, it's Prime Hair on Instagram, right right, So
Speaker 1: there you go, Booth, thank you so much for being on.
Speaker 3: I had a great conversation with you me too, and
Speaker 3: I love you at them too. It's so nice to
Speaker 3: like talk to you like we talk.
Speaker 1: We you know, we bullshit, we we like sit down
Speaker 1: and we buzzed and we just you know, talk about things.
Speaker 1: But this is a different conversation. So thank you for
Speaker 1: being on. I'm sure we all appreciate it, and you, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. I hope that you enjoyed and
Speaker 1: you learned quite a bit about my life, Vanessa's life,
Speaker 1: our partnership, and that we were able to inspire and
Speaker 1: empower you to hopefully one day start your.
Speaker 3: Business if that's what you want to do.
Speaker 1: And you guys know that before we close out the episode,
Speaker 1: I always have a quote for you. So this is
Speaker 1: your quote for the week. Okay, it's not what we
Speaker 1: have in life, but who we have in our life
Speaker 1: that matters. Again, it's not what we have in life,
Speaker 1: but who we have in our life that matters, you guys,
Speaker 1: So that is your quote.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Boo. I love you. I'll see
Speaker 3: you soon too. And yeah, congratulations on the graduation girl
Speaker 3: or all, look at you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I love you guys, thank you so much. Besitos.
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