WEBVTT - We Love Jenni 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.400 Vanessa is one of the few people that were very 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:08.160 close to my mom the last two years of her life, 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.400 especially the last days, you guys, of my mom's life, 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:12.920 and she's never spoken about that publicly. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.239 Seeing your mom, like go through what she went through 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.880 in those last moments and how she would cry and 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.960 stuff like that, I had to make a decision to 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:23.079 have her back. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:25.880 I have gotten comments when people would be like, oh, 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.360 how is Vanessa your friend, and didn't she want to 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.000 kick your ass because she was your mom's friend? And 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:39.720 I was like, uh, yes, that is all correct. Hello, Hello, 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.880 and welcome back to your favorite podcast, of course, Cheeky's 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.320 and Chill Duh. I hope you all are doing amazing. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:48.760 Summer is just around the corner, so I hope you 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.919 all have some fun activities or getaways planned. I am 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.240 going to grease you guys, because I'm a summer baby. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.120 Some My birthday is coming up. We're going to go 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.200 for a few days and actually our next guest is 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.440 going with me. One of my closest friends, Vanessa, will 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.640 be joining me to talk about our friendship and our 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:05.920 business endeavors. For those of you who don't know, Vanessa 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:07.600 has been a part of my life and a part 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.759 of my family's life for quite some time. I am 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.840 so ready to get into this conversation, So let's do it. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:24.320 This is Cheeky's and chill all right, y'alls. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.200 Sitting here with me right now is Vanessa Sanchez, my boo. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.479 She's actually right down the street for me, you guys. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.120 She lives like literally down the street from me. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:31.600 Okay. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.240 So she's a hair stylist who has worked celebrities like 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.320 my mother Jenny Rivera. She's also worked with Kate del Castillo, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.520 whom we've had on the podcast before. That was a 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.560 really great interview, by the way, and she's also my 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.440 hairstylist friend and business partner. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.520 Hipoo, how are you Hipoo? 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.880 I'm good. It's a little nervous, but I'm good. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:49.840 Don't be nervous. It's okay. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.160 It's just, you know, it's a conversation you know, between 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.200 go mother is because she's also my go mother, you guys, yes, 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.800 and talking about her children because I'm the Nina of 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.560 two of her children. Today's her daughter's graduation and I'm 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.400 just so grateful that you took the time out of 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.320 this important date to be on the podcast with us, 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:05.000 so thank. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:09.080 You, thank you. Yes. Luckily, her graduation isn't until this evening, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.280 so I was able to do both. So I'm super 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.720 excited and nervous, and you know, I'm very proud. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.240 You should be very proud. She is such a beautiful 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.040 you guys. She's beautiful from the outside and the inside. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.959 She's super smart. And that's her eldest and she's graduating 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.400 from nursing school, you guys. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.240 Yes, so we're gonna have a nurse to take care 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:26.560 of us. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.600 Yes, my bees and all that kind of stuff. Both talks, 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.800 maybe right, So congratulations on that to all of you, 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.000 because it's her dad, you and and her stepdad your husband, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.000 So you guys did a great job. So you guys, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.360 we're gonna talk about a lot of things because I 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.880 have gotten comments before, not as much as like, I 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.200 don't know, like ten years ago, when people would be like, oh, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.640 how is Vanessa your friend? And didn't she want to 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.560 kick your ass because she was your mom's friend, And I. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.400 Was like, uh, yes, that is all correct. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.640 And we've never talked about it, like we've never like 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.960 and we're not talked about it. We've talked about it, 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.360 but we haven't talked about it in public, and Vanessa's 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.760 is one of the few people that were very close 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.280 to my mom the last two years of her life, 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.480 especially the last days, you guys, of my mom's life. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:13.000 Vanessa was there and she's never spoken about that publicly, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.280 and I am grateful for that. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.560 I know my siblings are grateful for that. And we 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:17.440 just didn't like. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:22.160 Really think, oh it's necessary to talk about certain details. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.600 But now time has passed and now I'm like, okay, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.360 well it's part of my story. So anyways, Vanessa was 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:28.000 my mom's friends. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:28.320 First. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.120 They started off because my mom needed a hairstylist, so 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.040 Vanessa did her hair, and from there it turned into 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.920 a friendship and you spent a lot of time with her, 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.440 especially the last day. So tell us a little bit 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:40.800 about how you guys met. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.880 Where we met. She was looking for a hairdresser and 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.040 she said she was gonna call me, and I was 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.000 like really, I was like, Jenny's gonna call me, and 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.320 I thought it was like not true, you know, it 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.880 was like whatever, And sure enough, they had told me 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.000 at the time that her phone number started with an 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.320 nine O nine area code, and you know, I never 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.240 answered random numbers and They're like, make sure you answer 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.240 that nine o nine number. It's gonna be Jenny. And 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.360 I was like okay. And then like two days went 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.119 by and she get call. So I was like, yeah, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.640 it's just probably a bunch of like bs, she's not 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.640 gonna call. And then she I saw a nine o 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.080 nine number come through and I was like holy shit, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.080 and I was like okay, So I answered the phone 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.040 and I still forget. I was in the middle of 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.000 the salon and I walked to the back to the 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.039 color room to take the call, and she just said, hey, girl, 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.880 it's me Jenny. And I was like, oh my god. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.080 But I was like, oh, hey, how are you you know? 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.360 So she asked me if I still did extensions, if 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.000 I took that you know that class, And which was 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.920 the funny thing was that the first time I met her, 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.799 she had extensions in her hair, and I was concerned, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.440 not concerned. I was I didn't do them at the time. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.960 So I was debating. We're talking like I don't know 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.960 fifteen years ago what extension line to go through, which class, 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.359 And it was like a lot of money. It was 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.920 like either a class was like either seventeen hundred or 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.040 three thousand dollars to learn how to do extensions. So 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.719 I didn't know where to put my investment in, you know, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.880 and I was a lot of money, like for me 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.839 back then, and I mean it still is, but I 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:10.599 mean it was a lot. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:11.120 Yeah. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.039 So anyway, so I was like, let me, let me 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.120 ask her which one she has and what she recommends 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.279 since she wears them. And she's like, oh, I love 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.960 these extensions and you know, I love hairlocks and they're 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.000 the best. And I was like, okay, So I was 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.800 between hairlocks and like I forgot the other brand, like 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.839 Great Lines or something like that back in the day. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.839 So I took the class, I made the investment, and 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.839 that was it. Like I didn't ever call her to 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.520 tell her that, you know, I had taken the course 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.800 or anything like that. And I continue doing extensions for 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:45.039 like a good solid five years. When she called and asked, hey, 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.400 did you ever take that class? 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:47.920 That's crazy. I didn't know that. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.400 Yeah, So I was like I did so five years later, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.839 five years later, Like it was like a seed was planted. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.040 And I'll never like forget that because I could have said, no, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.000 you know, I took the other route that was cheap, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.040 but I took the route that you know, I just said, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.160 fuck it, I'm gonna take it. And I did, and 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:06.880 she goes, how good are you? And I said I'm 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.920 really good. I've been doing them for like five years. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.920 And she's like wow, okay, and she said, okay, I'm 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.080 gonna have my assistant at the time was Julie. And 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.440 she goes, I'm gonna have my assistant drop off my 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.880 hair and that way you can go and order hair 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.680 for me. And I was like okay, and she did. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.720 Julie came and dropped off all these samples of hair, 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.880 and I was like, then I didn't know what to 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.800 do because the hair was really expensive, and I was like, 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.880 how do I pay for all this? It's like almost 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.120 two thousand dollars worth of hair, and like what if 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:35.640 she doesn't show up? But I don't want to act 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.480 like I'm broke and I can't afford to buy her 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.200 hair beforehand. So I was like, you know what, I'm 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:41.800 just going to take a leap of faith and I'm 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.400 just going to buy the hair. And because it's non 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.080 refundable and it's expensive, and it's expensive, so I was 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.000 like yeah, So I did, and I went and I 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:50.960 bought all her hair, and I bought extra cause I 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.520 was like, what if it's not enough? And then like 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.440 what if it's you know, I just so I ended 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.559 up spending like probably close to like twenty five hundred 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.719 dollars just on hair for her, and I was like 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.039 so scared because I'm like, if she doesn't show up 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.200 or she doesn't like it, I'm freaking screwed. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:05.400 Yeah. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.400 So, she had asked for complete privacy because she had 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.920 had a fallen out with her hairdresser for not having 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.480 privacy in her hair salon visits. And I said, okay, yeah, 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.400 you know, so I went in on a on a Monday, 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.560 which was a day off, my day off, my salon 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.880 was closed, and she was about an hour and a 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.160 half late, and I was sitting there thinking like, damn, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.320 she's not gonna show up. You know. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.600 She was an hour and a half late, an hour 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.040 and a half late, So Jenny, that is so Jenny. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.240 Then, so then I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.120 call her. And I called her. She's like, hey girl, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.320 I'm so sorry. I got tied up, and you know, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.280 I'm literally down the street, I'm on my way, and 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.160 I was like Okay, well that's good, you know, like 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:47.080 that's fine. You know. So she came in and it 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.200 was just like I was so nervous too, Like I 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:50.960 was like, oh shit. And then when I saw her hair, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.800 and I'm like, wait, you don't only need extensions, like 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.320 you need your whole hair done, like your roots, your highlights. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.000 She goes, I know, and I'm like. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.800 Okay, she forgot that a very small detail. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.080 Right, And I was like, oh okay. So now I'm 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.160 like now I'm doing color and I'm doing all this stuff. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.120 And so in a nutshell, it was like about eight 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:14.640 hours later because back then we had to do individual extensions, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.160 which now I only do like tapein's or sew in 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.960 and it was like one by one, so two hundred 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.960 and fifty pieces individually put into her hair. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.800 That's insane. I remember though, she loved those damn things. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.880 She loved those damn things, and I was like, it. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.200 Would pull my hair out, but she was like stuck 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.000 on them. And she my mom wore extensions for years, 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.120 you guys. She could not see herself with that extensions. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:36.240 It was crazy. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.600 So eight hours later, you know, and I showed her 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.520 hair and she like loved it. I still have the 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.720 picture of the day that I showed her the back 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.199 of her hair and she goes, you passed the test, 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.040 and I was like, what test? And then she goes 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.080 the hairdressing test. My hair looks she was like grabbed it. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.120 She's like, I love it. It looks amazing, and you 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:56.319 know this is that. I was like, I didn't know 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.240 it was being tested. She was, oh, you were being tested. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.680 That is so Jenny fashion, Like it is just hurt 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.439 it to test you, you know what I mean. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:05.760 And she's like, Okay, I just want you to know 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.760 your own trial. You're on probation. I just kind of 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:08.120 you know. 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.280 But but that's awesome because now I didn't know this 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.080 whole story about like she had told you to take 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.240 the class. So it's like she has a lot to 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.520 do with Oh yeah, like your cap year and you 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.160 know what I mean, Like you've been doing her for 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.760 like what twenty five years, twenty eight years, twenty eight years, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.000 you guys, and she's Vanessa, still looks real good, you guys, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.360 just fy. She has four kids. But like, so you've 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.400 been doing hair for a long ass time. But I 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.360 didn't know this story, which is awesome. Look, I'm even 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.360 learning something, you know, you guys, and I know that 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.480 she's been. She was a huge part of like your career, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.320 but also as like a mother and as a wife, 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.680 you know, like she was a very good friend to 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:43.360 you in that way. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.640 Yeah, she was. She was like I always say, like 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:47.640 the sister I never have. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.560 Oh, yeah, that's true. And she has you have her 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:51.880 tattooed on your arm? 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:53.240 Yeah, I do have her on them. 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.400 She got it done after my mom passed. Yeah. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.600 And I remember, like that Thursday before she left, I 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.960 was packed for her to go to Monterrey and she 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.680 was showing me on her phone some pictures of fans 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.800 of hers that had tattoos of her, like a girl 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.079 that had one like in her back, smoking and different things, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.839 and I'm like, they're crazy. I told her, who would 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.000 tattoo you? Like, I mean, you're good, but like to 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.480 put you on there like that, that's insane. And she goes, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.840 what are you jealous, bitch? And I said, no, I'm 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.880 just like I would just never do that, Like, I mean, 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.600 I love Prince. At the time, Prince was still alive, 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.240 and I said, but I would never go blast prints 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.240 on my body like that's insane. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.440 And then not even and look, you guys. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.960 I ate my words, not even not even a month 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.840 maybe two months later, she was my first portrait. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.640 It's because she impacted your life so much. And yeah, 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.880 and we're going to talk about all of that. But anyways, okay, 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.360 So my mom picky with her hair. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.760 She wasn't picky. I mean, she was picky, but not 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.080 She wasn't a fool diva when it came to her 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.280 hair unless we were like about to go on stage. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.040 Then she was a real diva. Like right before she 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.160 went on, she would like nitpick and she would take 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.880 the curly nine for me and start culling her own 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.640 hair that I already curled, and I was like, whatever, 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.400 just it makes her feel good that she's doing. She's 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:06.800 like that. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.400 Though even with her makeup, she wanted to do her 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.120 own eyebrows. Scara her only good liner. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.280 I'm like, so you're just paying for eyeshadow, foundation and contour. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.280 Exactly because she was a little bit of a control freak. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.319 So I know she wanted her curls a certain way 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.200 where those curls, in my opinion, aren't in anymore right, 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:23.880 and they were kind of not in back then. But 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.360 for her, it's like I want my curly hair because 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.880 throughout the show, right, you know. But she was so 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.080 picky if like one curl was at a place, you 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.760 guys should be like hold on, you miss And even 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:35.920 in the. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.079 Fast I would always have like a little spot that 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.240 I would miss her hair. She's also delave this for good. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.599 Luck or what like that's true. She's like this is 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:44.280 for good luck. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:44.840 Oh my gosh. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.199 She would and you would think she's not paying attention 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.320 because she would be on her phone all day, like 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.160 when you were doing her hair her makeup, but then 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.520 she she would know she won't see that thing. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.120 Everything. She knew everything was going on. If like the 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.200 era was like wrong between like me and one of 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.360 the other people on her team were not getting along, 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.160 she was like so swapping, what did they do to you? 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.240 What's going on? Like she knew she knew something was off, 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:07.240 like very instantly. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.640 Yeah, absolutely, she knew. My mother was very busy, but 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:12.720 very present. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.160 I remember one time that we were at Deno Talento 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:17.880 and I had got I was pregnant at the time, 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.120 and I had a big fight with my kid's father 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.640 at the time, and I was just like holding it together. Like, 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.240 so I did her hair and I didn't like shed 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.439 one tear, like, but I was like broken by some 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.760 stuff that had happened between me and him. But I 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.480 was like, this is work and I have to like 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.360 separate the two. And again I didn't say a word 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.240 to her. I didn't say anything, and she went. I 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.079 did her hair, She performed, and she came back and 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.760 she closed the door and she asked everybody to get out, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.400 and I was like, am I getting fired? Like what 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.680 the fuck is why is she doing that? She goes, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.120 she touched me, She goes, what's wrong? What did you 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:57.000 do you? And I was like this and my tears 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:57.319 just went. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.480 That's so crazy, Vanessa. I'm like that, Yeah, she's. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.520 Like waited, she waited to go and do what she 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.080 had to do because she didn't have time to like 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.319 obviously address it. And I wasn't going to bring it up, 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.000 like I'm not going to pawn my problems onto her, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.040 like she was about to go on stage, like that's 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.400 not it's not what I do. But yeah, she came 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.120 back and then she was just like what happened? What 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.199 did he do? I know, I know something's wrong, and 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.680 I'm like how I didn't say a word. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.040 It's because she's she was very human, you know what 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.360 I mean. And that's one thing that is a good 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.560 thing and a bad thing. And I have become like 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:35.079 that where I my my employees become like my family, 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:36.560 you know. So it's not just like come and do 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.480 a service for me and that's it. It's like, no, 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.120 like they become part of our family or extended family. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.000 So I think she she would feel it. She was 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.200 very like in tune with her feelings in other people 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:45.600 as well. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:46.760 No matter how busy she was, she. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.120 Always took the time to like text you, hey, how 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.600 are you and and she would respond, even if it 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.959 was hours later, she would respond. And it's just little 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.240 things like that that people don't know. And I think 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.079 the whole funny thing about this is obviously when you 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.040 know Jenny was supposed to call you, you know Jenny Rivera, 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.679 and she like for me, I didn't know that you 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.480 weren't like a fan, not even of the music you 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.599 guys have, regional music. She didn't anything. She didn't know 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.319 about nothing. It was just I know, Jenny Rivera is 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.240 a famous person. I'm doing a famous person. But she 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.280 wasn't like a fan fan, you guys. It wasn't like 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.080 I love her music and I love. 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.120 I'm honestly a fan of her music. Like where I'm 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.720 like loved it till and it's crazy to say like 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.840 after she left, because to me, she was just my friend. Yeah, 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.840 So it didn't like it didn't like I would think 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.920 she was bad ass and I loved it when I 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.520 started working with her, but not till after I was like, 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.640 holy fuck, I realized the magnitude of what she offered 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.880 to everybody as opposed to like when I was. I 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.720 met her as a friend and as a criant. So 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.360 it did it? Did it? I wasn't a fan. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.160 I love that. I love that. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.320 I think that that makes it even more special because 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.520 people could say, oh, you know, it's all about Clout 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.680 and you know, writing her coattel and it's like, actually, 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:53.200 it wasn't. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.600 It was quite the opposite. And how long did you 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:56.000 do her. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.400 Hair before she left? I guess I met her the 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.800 first time into on thousand and seven, and then I 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.440 started doing our hair I believe in like two thousand 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:04.960 and nine. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.280 Okay, all right, so yeah, so that's the story with them, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:16.920 and how they met you, guys, my mom and I 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.480 in twenty twelve, we had a big fallout. Some of 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.080 you may know, some of you might know, but you 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.000 guys can read the stories in both my books, you know, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.400 Forgiveness or Unbreakable. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:31.360 No wait, Unbreakable, Unstoppable, Unstoppable, Yeah, unstoppable. That's my mom. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.000 My mom's unbreakable. Oh mom, Wait, So anyways, that's a 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.640 detailed story. But in twenty twelve. October of twenty twelve, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.360 my mom and I had a huge fallout the beginning 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:46.280 of the month with my sister, Jenica's Quintennera and I 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.080 was very scared to go because my mom was like, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.960 you can't bring anyone. You're gonna come and uh yeah, 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:52.640 we're not talking, but you need to be here for 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:53.040 your sister. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.000 And I said, okay, So there I go. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.160 I was so nervous and no one was talking to me. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.040 It was just a huge, huge, huge misunderstanding. There were 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.000 a lot of people that I feel didn't want to 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.320 see my mom and I close, so a lot of 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.240 people had to do a chatt on man non esto. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:10.240 It went on. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.840 Vanessa being her friend was the one that I was 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.240 like scared of the most because I remember walking in 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.560 and she looked at me. She gave me eyes of death. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.320 I said, this bitch is gonna fuck me up. And yeah, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.000 she was like, you gave me these eyes, you know. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.760 And I was like, oh my gosh. And I'll never 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.160 forget that because I was like shaking in my boots. 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.000 I was like, Okay, I know I shouldn't fight, and 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.280 Vanessa probably kicked my ass, but I think it was 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.520 because in that time, it was just difficult. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:36.640 You know what I mean. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.400 Time it was like if you weren't on my mom's 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.280 side to say the least, or you know, it was 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.880 like you're against me sort of thing, right. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.120 Yeah, it was. It was more like I was one sided. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.720 And I guess, you know, like I said, seeing your mom, like, 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.240 you know, go through what she went through in those 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.320 last you know, moments, and how she would cry and 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.960 stuff like that. So it got to a point where 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.879 I had to make a decision to have her back, 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.920 because not that I believed that what she was believing 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.760 was true. It was more like for her own sanity 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.720 and for her own safety, she needed to know like 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.760 I believed her even though that were around her. Yes, 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.200 if you were on her team. If you were left 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.199 the little people that were left on our team, you 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.240 had to be one hundred percent on our team because 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.000 if you brought any little thing, I would have smiled 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.400 at you or would have like been nice to you. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.600 It would have been I don't know what would have happened. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.000 Right, She needed to feel that, she needed to feel 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:36.719 that the people that are closest to her and that 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.960 she loved and you know, loved her that no matter 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.480 what they were with her. So just to give a 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.439 little bit of a backstory, you guys, because some of 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.440 you may not know this, and I don't. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:50.439 Really like to talk about it anymore, but someone started 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:51.360 this rumor. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.840 That I had slept with my mom's husband, Esteman, and 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.160 that is absolutely false. That never happened, it never will happen. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.680 They said that there was a video, and there is 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.520 a video. There is a video, but there's nothing on 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.960 that video, any inappropriate conduct, nothing, And Vanessa watched it 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.040 along with Johnny, my brother, for hours and hours and 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:12.000 hours at a time. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.399 Yes, that that is correct, and that's that's something that 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.480 I have never spoken on because of respect to you, 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.719 your brothers, and I mean your siblings. You know, I 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.159 love your family very much, and to me, it's like, 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:29.639 it's not my place to go and you know, get interviews. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.040 I mean I got offered tons of interviews after your 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.000 mom passed away, and I was like, that's not that's 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:35.840 not who I am, that's not my style. I won't 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.280 do that, you know. But now it's been so many 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.320 years that it's happened, and you know, I feel like, 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.480 you know what, like Cheeky's like, obviously our friendship has 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.040 grown and we're we've been closed for a very long time, 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.240 and it's very frustrating and upsetting to me the way people, 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.280 the media, other family members of yours tried to not 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.840 defend you and drag your name through the through the gutter. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:02.600 When I I all that video for about four to 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.360 six hours with your mom over and over with Johnny 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.680 with Julie. We sat in her room and Johnny was 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.000 going back up and down the stairs seeing it. 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.120 And Johnny at like the age of what hell does. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:15.840 He like nine? He was the old woman that I 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.679 know how to work the computers. Yeah, So he was 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.040 playing I'm back and forth and he was like, what's 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.480 going on, mama, Mama, She's like, go play it back 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.720 to you know whatever. He's like, okay, mama, and he 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.639 kept like going up and down the stairs, and I'm like, 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.359 as I was watching this video with her, I'm like thinking, like, whoa, 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.920 what are we going to see? What's gonna happen? Because 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.439 we've already been watching it for like X amount of 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.919 time And by the vibe in the room was like 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:41.679 I was thinking I was going to see some like 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.040 crazy shit, and I'm like, I don't see anything. I 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.240 don't see anything like what's going on? And I would 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.680 look at her and I would look at Julie and 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:52.480 I'm like, is she going crazy? Or am I like blind? 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.040 Like what's going on? And then it got to the 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.400 point where I realized, I mean, and I know this 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.639 may sound bad. I don't know if the delusionals the 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:04.040 world just over. We're tired. She just was seeing something 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:04.840 that wasn't there. 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:05.280 You know. 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:06.200 It was going through a lot. 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.920 And there was one particular woman And I talk about 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.480 this in my book, you guys, so that's what I'm saying. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:11.960 Go read it if you want to know the full story. 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:12.800 But there was one. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.360 Particular woman that had just entered her life a few 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.320 months before who was just in her ear, and I 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.520 think wanted to take control and was putting just so 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.320 many toxic things in her that I think my mom 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.439 just wasn't thinking clearly, and she was exhausted, and she 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.560 was losing weight rapidly, so I think she wasn't eating enough. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.240 She was also having issues with a step on, her husband, 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.320 and then this whole thing and the video. We're talking 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.199 about surveillance cameras. You guys, she had a camera. We 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:40.840 had cameras all over the house and in our house 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.560 in Encino and even inside in the stairs to see 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.040 who would go into the bedrooms. 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.120 So in that video, you. 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.440 See me walking into my mom's bedroom to say bye 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.639 to a step on because my mom wasn't home and 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.840 I was in in there for no more than five 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.680 minutes together, and you see me walk out down the stairs. 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.879 Outside of the door, you see my car drive away exactly, 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.439 my little buggy drive away, and that's it. So I 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.280 was just like what When I finally watched this video, 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.600 because I didn't watch it until after she passed, I 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:12.200 was like. 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:13.600 What the hell? 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:17.080 How where do you clearly see me walk into the 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.480 room and the camera is counting down and it's not 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.720 even five minutes. It's a little bit less than five minutes. 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.520 You see me walk down and leave. So I was 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:28.240 just like, what is happening? Like, I was so confused. 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.200 I was devastated, you guys, I was devastated for two 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:32.680 months of my life before my mom passed away. 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:33.600 So that was in October. 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.879 And then I would want to clarify something that people 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.840 say that just this is like one hundred percent real 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.600 the truth. They say she was walking out of the 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.560 room fixing her clothes. That is fucking bullshit. 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:45.560 Oh that I was. 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.320 She was not walking that you were, and you did 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.359 not walk out of the room fixing your clothes. I 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.960 put my life on the line, my four children on 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:55.880 the line, like that you walked out of the room 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.960 and you just like skip your happy way down the 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.840 stairs like there was no there was nothing of that sort, like, 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.120 and I know that, and I vouched that one hundred percent, 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.399 you know, and I watched that video and there's that 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.239 wasn't the case, like at all. It was. 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.840 Yeah, it was something that completely devastated me for years 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.040 until one day. I mean, obviously, you guys know I 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.960 go to therapy. I love therapy. Twenty thirteen was one 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.880 of the worst years of my life, living without my mother, 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:26.399 trying to raise my siblings, dealing with this shit the media, 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.359 and just wanting my family to come out, the people 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:31.439 that had watched that video to come out and defend me, 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:32.880 and they wouldn't. 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.600 And it was just I was little. I was living 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:36.000 in hell. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.879 It was horrible, and thank goodness my strength and I 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:40.560 was like, you know what, I said, let me take 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.040 this negative thing that happened in my life and see 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:44.359 it as something positive. 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:45.520 And it gave me the strength. 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.399 And I feel like my mom in some way because 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.800 we never got to talk about it, like thoroughly, and 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.200 for me to show her my evidence, and I had evidence. 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.960 I have the evidence still. I have the phone bill, 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:57.600 I have everything. I was like, look, mom, this is 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.280 where I was. I would have never ever done that, 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:00.679 you know. 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.040 And I told her that, I said, let her show 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.480 you the phone bill that she was on the phone 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.359 with Angel, like it's everything's tracked. 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.920 Angel's my ex boyfriend, you guys, yeah, oh yeah, sorry. 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.000 Yeah, it's like or yeah, she was on the phone. 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.679 And so I said, let her show you the thing. 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.320 She goes, oh, papers could be altered, I said, yeah, 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:21.119 but not the online can't be altered if we log in, 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:24.879 if she brings her computer, she logs into the you know, 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.360 the Verizon. I believe you had Verizon at the time. 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.119 She had told me, and she goes, we log into Verizon. 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.040 She can't alter the website. Yeah, if it's if you're 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.280 on the phone for step forty seven minutes to somebody, 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.480 you can't change that on a computer in front of 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.960 you at Verizon dot com. You can't. And I said, no, 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:41.600 you can't. 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:46.439 It's it almost like she didn't want to fix things. 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.679 And I keep thinking and thinking about it because I 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.720 was the second time that my mom and I had 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:53.280 a fallout for two to three months. 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:54.400 You guys, that's the second time. 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.159 The first time I was fifteen years old, and then 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.960 it happened before she passed, right, So I just feel like, 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.800 not that she knew she was going to pass, but 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.159 it's just like God's plan is so perfect because it 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.360 gave me the strength to be there for my siblings. 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.560 I don't know what would have happened if I would 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.280 have had the strength, if I would have broken down. 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.320 I don't know if I didn't have those two and 0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:17.200 a half months before my mom passed to prepare myself 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.600 and to go to therapy and for the therapist to 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.560 tell me, well, you got to start living your life 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.160 as if your mother's not here, because it doesn't look 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.000 like you guys are gonna fix things, so you need 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:30.120 to start just coming to. 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:30.520 Terms with that. 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.760 And that was two weeks before my mom passed, and 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.960 then not saying that it didn't hurt me when she passed. 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.760 I just was a little further in the healing process, 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.680 in the greeting process than everyone else. So anyways, that's 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.600 just a little bit of it. And that's how this 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.160 whole thing happened. And that's so why because some people 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.320 know this story, and some people knew that Vanessa was 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.240 really close to my mom and now she's really close 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.520 to me, and so people taught crap and say, oh 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.359 my god, why is Vanessa now you're co madre and 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:56.879 your friend all of a sudden and one of your 0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:58.439 best friends, and blah blah blah. 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.160 It must be because it's. 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.119 Clout And I'm like, uh no, that means that she 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.840 was a very loyal friend and she knew right when 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.520 my mom passed, she we fixed things. Everyone was at 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.000 my grandma's house for like two weeks straight. We slept 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:11.600 at my grandma's house, and Vanessa was one of the 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.359 people that was there almost every day for hours and 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.280 hours at a time. And I remember telling someone at 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.159 my grandma's house, I'm like, you know what, I'm just nervous. 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:20.920 I was like, I feel like Vanessa's gonna kick my ass, 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.920 like I don't know. And so they sat us down 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:27.560 and Vanessa apologized, and you know, she just said, I'm sorry. 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:28.879 I had to be there for your mom. But I 0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.600 got to tell you, I never thought that you did 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.719 it that you did that. It's just I had to 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.679 be on your mom's like I had to show her 0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:37.480 at her back. 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.879 Right, Yeah, absolutely, And you know, to bring up like 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.119 even Thanksgiving, you wrote her an email and she at 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.760 my house. She was at my house when she read 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:50.080 the email, and she was broken and she was crying 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.119 so hard, and I thought something that like bad had 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.439 happened to you, Like I thought like maybe like you 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.520 had passed away, because she was the way she was crying. 0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.159 She was so devastated. And then when I said, what 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:01.800 is it, and she had a little BlackBerry and she 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.439 was like scrolling down and showing me the email and 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.439 reading it. To me, and she was just crying and 0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.800 crying and crying. So then I grabbed her by her 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:11.919 shoulders and I was like, look, Jen, I was like, 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.560 you need to make a fucking choice, like you need 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:18.399 to a make a public apology and say you're sorry 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:22.160 that you messed up, or if your daughter did do that, 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.399 you need to forgive her regardless, because it's killing you. 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.880 She you know, you need to make a choice. That's it, 0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.080 Like you're gonna end up, like look at you. And 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:33.040 she just said with that look on her face, and 0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.199 she told me she's like I know, I know. She 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.640 was like I'm just not ready. I'm I wait until 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:41.160 I get back from Mexico. So she knew that she 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.800 had made a mistake and she didn't know how to 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.399 fix it. She didn't know how to backpedal because she 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.160 was like, damn, I'm in so deep, like I've done 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.159 so much stuff and I was wrong and it was 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:53.840 I think it was so hard for her to accept it, 0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:55.439 and she was like, I'm gonna have to fix this, 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.639 and she had it on the back burner because she 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.320 wanted to finish her concert in Monterrey, come back and 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.280 fix things. But you know, time didn't allow that. 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.240 Yeah, and then that was that Thanksgiving. I remember writing 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:07.960 that email and I just said, I'm going to send it. 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.199 This is going to be the last time that I 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.480 try to reach out because I had just talked to 0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:14.800 my therapist and I just said, I love you and 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:16.840 I'm here whenever you want to see my evidence. I 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:21.320 miss you. Happy Thanksgiving. I spent that Thanksgiving by myself, 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.600 you guys, and then thank God, one of my really 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.240 good friends she invited me to her house because I 0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.680 was that's my favorite holiday. So my mom knew that. Yeah, 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.000 she knew that, and she knew that, and she and 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.680 I think it was like we were missing each other 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.520 so much, so much, so it was it was really hard. 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.720 And then you know, she passed and Vanessa was there 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.520 with my mom that Thursday. My mom flew out, I 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.520 think on on Thursday. My mom passed on Sunday, so 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.840 she was there with her, sleeping in her bed with her. 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.760 And then my mom never came back. But yeah, you 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.160 say that you felt something, huh Oh, yeah, I felt. 0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.560 It one hundred percent. I knew like something was like 0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.320 and I just felt it just this her energy like 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.000 the era like everything like and she wanted to take 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.919 everything with her, Like she took so much stuff, and 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:07.240 I was like, why are you taking all this stuff? 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.080 She's because it's mine and I can And I was like, okay. 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.240 Like she loved her diamonds, you guys, so she took 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.879 all her expensive, most expensive diamonds with her. 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.040 Yeah, and she never would when she would go to Mexico, 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:18.399 she would take her other stuff, you know. 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.680 Now, you know, forwarding to now what almost eleven years later, 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.080 Vanessa and I, with time little by little started becoming 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.520 really close. And after that conversation and she apologized and 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:37.359 I said, okay, cool. 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:39.120 She started doing my hair. 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.840 She was the first one to help me with my 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.480 hair and makeup at like literally she wouldn't charge me. 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.600 You guys, I felt like that that was your way, 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.080 and I don't know, we've never really talked about it, 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:50.960 like your way of saying I'm sorry and also being 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.680 there being a good friend to my mom. You knew 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.240 how important her kids were, so it's like her daughter's 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.480 about to embark on this new journey of singing. The 0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.080 best thing I could do for my friend and for 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.800 her daughter is to be there for her. So she 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.680 didn't charge me. You guys for like years. So she 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.040 would do my extensions and my color and we would 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.440 travel together. And that's how it started. And it just 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.040 grew into being go Madrees and now we have a 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:20.160 business together. But it's been what since my mom passed, basically. 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.960 Right, I mean we were friends before then, but yeah, 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:22.360 but then. 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.160 We were cool, but you were more my mom's friend, 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.800 you know what I mean. And that's something that Vanessa 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.160 and people I think wonder, like why we stopped working together. 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.960 It was more because Vanessa was trying to work things 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.720 out with her ex husband or her baby daddy and 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.080 the kids were little, and I would think like, yeah, 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.160 I was like you traveling and the traveling and I 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.720 just felt very like and my mom felt the same 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:46.080 way too. 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.600 Remember she might want to take you. 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.240 With her, you don't want to take me. I was 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.320 actually supposed to go with her to Mexico. We talked 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.400 about it and then at the time, my son was 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.840 only six months old, and she said, no, the baby's 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.040 too small, like you need to stay here with him. 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.360 Yeah, And see, those are things that people don't know 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.440 about my mother. My mom was very selfless in that 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.520 way of Okay, I don't want to take you from 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.600 your kids and something happens. I don't want your kids 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.320 to be motherless because they're so little. There were babies, 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.440 you know, so because Renee, you were pregnant, you had 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:15.280 just had Renee. 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.480 Yeah, when your mom passed, I had had Renee was 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.840 six months old. But you know I had Lolan Renee. 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.120 They were both under two years old. 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.040 Yeah, so yeah, So then when I started my career 0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.960 in twenty fourteen, they were babies. They were little babies. 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.880 So that's the only thing. You know, other stuff little happened, 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.120 little cheese mes and all that. But we fixed it 0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.800 and here we are and now we have we're business partners. 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.440 Yes, we're we have a very very great hair hairline. 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:44.840 Yes, it's called Plantitas, and we started what we were 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.920 just we had a meeting yesterday. We had a numbers 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.280 meeting with our accountant. And it's doing very well thanks 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:51.840 to all of you guys. And if you still haven't 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:53.760 tried it out, you guys need to go to the website, 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.760 okay and check out our products. But it's been what 0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:02.200 two years, you know, so it's been too And because 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.120 again Vanessa has so much experience in the hair world, 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.120 I trusted her, I was like, I want her to 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.280 be my business partner, and I love taking care of 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.640 my hair, and I think we're amazing business partners. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.080 I think so too. I think it's really good because 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.479 we like bounce off each other, you know, and like 0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.920 I feel like, you know, you have been you know, 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.920 always into your hair as well. So when I'm like, okay, 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.120 let's try this product, let's try this out, you're a 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.480 good guinea pig, You're like, okay, yeah, I like this. No, 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:27.840 I don't like the boo. I don't like this as 0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:29.960 sooth thick or it's you know, it makes it weighs 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.200 my hair down and stuff like that. So it's it's good, 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:36.840 you know. And we're both Latina strong, you know, thriving, hardworking, hardworking, 0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:40.520 and I think it's good, very honest. Yeah, I think 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.320 it's very good that you know, we're able to show 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.840 I feel like other Latinas like it's good to like 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.880 empower each other women and make sure that you know, 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.360 we support all businesses, you know, like I love to 0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:55.120 support like anywhere from like you know, people that make strawberries, 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.760 that make T shirts, you know, graphic designers, like everybody, 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.400 like most everybody on my team on our team is 0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.680 a woman, like there is no man on the team. Yeah, 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:07.880 you know, and it's it's not that we're biased, but 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.800 I feel like I just love helping and you know, 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.480 having the women around and then men just throw everything off. 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:14.240 It's like, forget it. 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.040 Women, we just do things better. We multitask very well. 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:19.760 Yeah, Like every now and then I'll have my husband, 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:21.400 I can you move these boxes? And he's like I 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.080 thought I could do. I'm like, yeah, just move the boxes. 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:23.920 We need your man power. 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:25.160 I love David. 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.320 Shout out to David, her husband, Sergeant Moreno, Sergeant Reno. 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.760 Yes, so so yeah. 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.520 I mean that's the thing like when you were saying 0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.600 that I was a guinea pig, because that's how it started, 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:34.880 you guys. 0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:35.760 It was very organic. 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.200 Like she started with her CBD line because she has 0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.000 what is the thing that the TMJ TMJ. 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.000 She's actually the one that told me to do the CBD. 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.719 And I can't smoke weed because I like get paranoia, 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.160 like I can. I've tried every kind and it does 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.720 not work for me. So she's like, whooh, you need 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.120 to try CBD. It's going to really help you. And 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:56.840 I'm like, what the hell is that. She's like, it's 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.280 not going to make you high. You know. 0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.960 I had to educate her on it. She she researched it. 0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.800 Yeah, so I researched it. I started trying different CBDs 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.000 and that was the only thing that was able to 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.600 help my TMJ. 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.080 And so TMJ, it's like when your jaw locks you guys, 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:12.840 I don't know, but yeah. 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.000 Yeah, so my jaw locks up. And so I started 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.440 with CBD line and then we started getting into like 0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.760 the top of boles and rollers and Amnika and I 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.520 was like the ruler. Yeah, and I was like, booh, 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.880 you gotta try this. And she has been my guinea 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.200 pig and like my supporter since day one that I 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.320 started my CBD company, you know. 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.280 And that's what I wanted for her because she was 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.720 tired of being she loves doing hair, but after so 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.320 many years you guys, being behind a chair. It was 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.520 just just like, I'm like, you need to start a business. 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:41.200 Do it. 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.080 This is something and the best thing is to have 0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.160 a mission statement and a reason behind it, and you 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.000 have a story to tell because this is real. And 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.400 her nervous system was all out of whack. Her stress 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.200 was killing her, so CBD was really the only thing 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.360 that helped calm everything down. So she started that and 0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.600 then she's like, I was like, you need to start 0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.080 a shampoo line. Honestly, like you need to start a 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.120 shampoo line. And she'say, okay. So she started doing it 0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.360 and I started testing everything with her for six months, 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.920 and then we decided to become business partners. And now 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:09.759 we're barely gonna pay ourselves. You guys see it takes 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:10.479 yeah a while. 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.279 My god, that's so true. 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.200 Yes, because it's like I want people not to get yeah, 0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.400 two years, not to get discouraged. Like, if you're a 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.680 small business starting out, be patient. It's a baby. You 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.399 got to just be patient. There are days where it's 0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.400 going to be slower than others. But after two years, guys, 0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.480 now we're finally gonna pay ourselves. 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.120 Yeah, we're getting a paycheck. And I was so nervous 0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.640 to bring it up. Balls off. Well, I'm like, you know, 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.479 let's go over our numbers. I was like, wait, boo, 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:36.720 can we get can we get paid? 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.360 Yeah? You were like I was gonna bring it up. 0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:40.440 I was like, well, actually I was. 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.400 Too, So so you guys be patient and just know 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.719 that businesses take a while, and the first couple of 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.680 years it's gonna be tough. But here we are, and 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.719 I'm very proud of us, and hopefully, you know, we 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.280 can inspire you guys to just if you have an idea, 0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.319 if you have something that you love doing and you're 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:03.120 passionate about, just try it, try it, just do it. Yeah, 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.400 the biggest risk is not taking a risk. 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.839 Right, and then nothing is too small, Like you know, 0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.600 like I started with like like four products and I 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.400 think we're up to like thirteen products now, and you know, 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.279 every time we just get bigger and better and we're like, oh, 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.560 we can do this. Like yesterday, me and Lacey were 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.319 up to like we were on a good one like 0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.160 till like midnight developed like thinking of all these different things, 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.480 and the brain was just going and going. So it's 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.279 like the more it's I guess it's like working out, 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.319 but I don't work out. But like when they say 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.719 an endorphins start going. So I think once I start 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:35.879 to get into that work mode, I just cannot turn 0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.480 it off. I'm like going and going and going and 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.319 and you know, so girls, women out there, just if 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.520 you have an idea, freaking run with it. 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.080 Man, run with it and start like she said small. 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.480 You can have one or two products, give it your all. 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.520 Once you get money from that, then you can get 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.840 another product, and so on and so forth. So just 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.440 be patient, you guys, be patient. Okay, So I have 0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:01.200 a question for you. Are there frozen con to having 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:02.160 a business partner? 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:02.600 Okay? 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.360 And don't worry, because I know I'm your business partner. 0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.680 But just for people out there, I mean for me personally, 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.520 I feel that there's more prompt pros than con. So 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.400 only con for me personally is that you you know, 0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.320 we're fifty fifty partner, so we have to split everything. 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:14.920 Fifty fifty, right. 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.239 But other than that, it's less work on me and 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.279 I'm busy doing other things. So that's why I love 0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.440 having a business partner, a smart business woman. I only 0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.799 have business partners that are women, guys, because that's just 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.400 my shit. You know, that's my thing. But anyways, what 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.240 about you, I. 0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.880 Honestly, how do I say this without sounding crazy? I 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:38.480 honestly would never do business with anybody else but you 0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.160 because of the fact that you're so busy that you 0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.239 let us run with it. If that makes sense. I 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.880 trust you, you know, and there's trust and I know, 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.520 like you have your own money and you're not like 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.960 I've had like known different people and different experiences in 0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.080 the past. I had a friend that I did back 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.719 in like I don't want to say, like twenty years ago. 0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.719 I was gonna bind, you know, when I got my 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.560 first and I went into partnership with my hair salon 0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.160 and that lasted like probably like not even three weeks, 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.880 and she went psycho and I was like, oh my gosh, 0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.480 never again would I ever do this. Like she came in, 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.080 she tried to change the whole salon around, change the music, 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.160 and she just like I was like, what do you mean, 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.560 what are you doing? And after that, I was like, 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.760 I'll never have another partner again. Like with this now 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.080 with me and you, I feel like because we have 0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.920 the friendship and like it's not our only source of income. 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.320 So it's like we're you know, we're able to dab 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.680 and you know still like I'm obviously still behind the chair, 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.879 and you know, I have the SEVD line as well, 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:33.520 and you know. 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.400 I like because I have still growing, it's still. 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.319 Growing, and I like to have my eggs and like 0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.439 different baskets and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.120 it's if you could do it on your own, it's better. 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.560 But if you need if you can find a partner 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.680 that is not relying, if that's not their only source 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.120 of income, then I think it would be okay, it 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.880 would be better because if you guys are both starving 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.560 or starting out and you guys both need money, then 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.040 it's going to be very very difficult, you know what 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.400 I mean. But us we did it like of course, 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:06.040 like we need money, but we have other sources of income, 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.440 so we're not our main jobs. We have our main job, 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.160 so this is kind of like a hobby slash like okay, 0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.640 let's grow as latinas as women and you know, let's 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.320 get you know, this going, but it's not our only 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.080 thing that we're relying to put food on the table. 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:23.480 For exactly so, and obviously our ultimate goal would be 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.880 to live off of this brand eventually, you know, correct. 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.560 So don't leave your job guys and say Okay, I'm 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.279 gonna leave my job and go start this business. I 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.080 think you need to have your job still because that's 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:39.600 gonna bring in financial stability, and do this as or 0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.880 your business as a side hustle until it grows and again, 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.839 it takes one to three years, even sometimes even five, 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.359 you guys, to really have a lucrative business. You have 0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:50.840 to be patients. So don't go in there and be 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:52.640 like I'm gonna leave my job my day. No, keep 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.200 your nine to five or keep whatever it is that 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.400 you're doing. That's basically what we're doing. It's like, I 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.479 have so much faith in this brand that I'm still 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.319 doing my singing, I'm still doing everything else, but I 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.480 still do this and I just thank God that I 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.880 have the platform and the way to share it with 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.000 you guys. And it's something that I'm very passionate about. 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.040 I mean hopefully that inspires you guys. And if you 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.480 guys ever have questions, maybe we should have another podcast 0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.279 when I say you and I about you know, just business, 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:18.560 just like you know, business advice or something. 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:20.520 Yeah, I think it would definitely be good to help 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.840 people with that because I always say there's enough business 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.759 to go around everywhere. Like I still buy other hair 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.120 products from other people, Like you know what I mean, 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:31.759 It's not just because I have mine, I'm only gonna 0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.320 buy my product. I'm not. I mean, ours is great, 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.520 it's the best in my eyes, but there's still other 0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.120 people that are just as good. You know, it just depends. 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:43.200 Everybody has different texture, hair, different color, ethnicity. So it's 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.440 not like you can't say, like, this is the best product, 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.120 it's the only one you need, Like, no, you need 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.600 multiple products to create a certain look. 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:51.359 That's what I love about you. You're not a hater. 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.600 You're not one to be like you know what I mean, 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.480 Like I'm the same way, which I think that's why 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.320 it works, you guys, that's another thing in partnerships. You 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.040 have to be transparent, have to be honest. You have 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.200 to have these conversations from the very beginning. Look, we're 0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.000 two come out that it is coming together two friends, 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.560 and we're not gonna let this business get between us. 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:09.960 We have to be honest and we have to learn 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.960 to separate friendship from business. And let's talk numbers and 0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.080 let's show each other this is what's going on in 0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:18.279 the bank account, because you don't want to ever have 0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.040 tarnish your friendship for business or money. 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.520 Me honestly, that was my first thing, Like I was like, 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.480 there's no way I'm gonna ruin our friendship or any 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.839 friendship at that matter of mine. I have a very 0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:33.120 small circle over money, like there's no value. Yeah, it's priceless. 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:34.959 It's priceless, is what I meant to say. Like, there's 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.920 no way I'm gonna like over five thousand dollars or 0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.400 twenty dollars or ten thousand dollars. Am I going to 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:42.640 ruin a friendship' That's not it's. 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:45.120 Not And that's what we're both on that same page 0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:46.680 and we talked about it. That was the first thing 0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:48.799 we talked about when we when we entered this partnership 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.320 and just for you know, to before we close out, 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.920 since you've been doing hair for so long, what is 0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:57.680 I don't know, let's think of a tip that you 0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.200 can give people, okay, for extensions for instance, because I 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.160 think everyone is like into tapins or the k tips 0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.720 or whatever. Everyone wants its extensions. What is your opinion 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.960 or a tip that you can give people for their 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.520 extensions to last longer. I already know what you're gonna say, 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.279 because you don't you clipping extensions? 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.440 Exact clips? Yeah, yes, I tell them why? Yeah? 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.680 I like clippings because of the fact that any kind 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.400 of extension you're gonna put into your hair, it's gonna 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.680 it's gonna do some minimal damage. It's it's it's depending 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.799 on the technician to the method. It doesn't matter what 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.120 anybody tells you, like, oh, these don't damage your hair. 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.239 Anything foreign to your hair's gonna damage it. Whether it's 0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.680 eyelash extensions, hair extensions, it's gonna do some kind of 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.319 pulling some weight on your hair. So me being that 0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:43.080 been a hair dreser for twenty eight years and I've 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.840 wore extensions all the time. I put them in my 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.640 client's hair all the time, but I let them know, like, hey, 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.520 you need to take breaks me now in between that 0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.799 your hair like get healthy and then we can put 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.279 them back in, you know. So my suggestion is like, 0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.560 if you already have fine hair, go with clippings. I 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.760 feel like that's just better on and off. But some people, 0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.040 you know, if you don't care that you're gonna lose 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.040 a little bit of hair, then just buy your Plantita 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:08.040 shampoo and it'll grow back. 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.480 I love that. I love that and talking about that. 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.719 Share your social media booth, share your instagram, and share 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.600 the website. 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:22.680 My instagram is hair by Vanessa Sanchez and our website 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.600 is vspurely Natural dot. 0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.120 Com exactly, and then Also she has her hair salon 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:31.000 you guys, it's Prime Hair on Instagram, right right, So 0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.640 there you go, Booth, thank you so much for being on. 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.680 I had a great conversation with you me too, and 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.799 I love you at them too. It's so nice to 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:41.279 like talk to you like we talk. 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.680 We you know, we bullshit, we we like sit down 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.960 and we buzzed and we just you know, talk about things. 0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.319 But this is a different conversation. So thank you for 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.160 being on. I'm sure we all appreciate it, and you, guys, 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.520 thank you for listening. I hope that you enjoyed and 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.359 you learned quite a bit about my life, Vanessa's life, 0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.799 our partnership, and that we were able to inspire and 0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.200 empower you to hopefully one day start your. 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:02.440 Business if that's what you want to do. 0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:07.240 And you guys know that before we close out the episode, 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:14.320 I always have a quote for you. So this is 0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.719 your quote for the week. Okay, it's not what we 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.520 have in life, but who we have in our life 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.560 that matters. Again, it's not what we have in life, 0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.560 but who we have in our life that matters, you guys, 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:26.680 So that is your quote. 0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.120 Thank you so much, Boo. I love you. I'll see 0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:33.319 you soon too. And yeah, congratulations on the graduation girl 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:33.920 or all, look at you. 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:39.560 Thank you. I love you guys, thank you so much. Besitos. 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:46.000 Do you need advice on love, relationships, health emails. I'm 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.200 so excited to share with you that my Cheeky's and 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.520 Chill podcast will have an extra episode drop each week. 0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.719 I'll be answering all your questions. Just leave me a 0:43:54.800 --> 0:44:00.200 voice message person, Menday. 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