1
00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,400
Speaker 1: Vanessa is one of the few people that were very

2
00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,160
Speaker 1: close to my mom the last two years of her life,

3
00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,400
Speaker 1: especially the last days, you guys, of my mom's life,

4
00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,920
Speaker 1: and she's never spoken about that publicly.

5
00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,239
Speaker 2: Seeing your mom, like go through what she went through

6
00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,880
Speaker 2: in those last moments and how she would cry and

7
00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,960
Speaker 2: stuff like that, I had to make a decision to

8
00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,079
Speaker 2: have her back.

9
00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,880
Speaker 1: I have gotten comments when people would be like, oh,

10
00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,360
Speaker 1: how is Vanessa your friend, and didn't she want to

11
00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,000
Speaker 1: kick your ass because she was your mom's friend? And

12
00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:39,720
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, yes, that is all correct. Hello, Hello,

13
00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,880
Speaker 1: and welcome back to your favorite podcast, of course, Cheeky's

14
00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,320
Speaker 1: and Chill Duh. I hope you all are doing amazing.

15
00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,760
Speaker 1: Summer is just around the corner, so I hope you

16
00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,919
Speaker 1: all have some fun activities or getaways planned. I am

17
00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,240
Speaker 1: going to grease you guys, because I'm a summer baby.

18
00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,120
Speaker 1: Some My birthday is coming up. We're going to go

19
00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,200
Speaker 1: for a few days and actually our next guest is

20
00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,440
Speaker 1: going with me. One of my closest friends, Vanessa, will

21
00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,640
Speaker 1: be joining me to talk about our friendship and our

22
00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,920
Speaker 1: business endeavors. For those of you who don't know, Vanessa

23
00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,600
Speaker 1: has been a part of my life and a part

24
00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,759
Speaker 1: of my family's life for quite some time. I am

25
00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,840
Speaker 1: so ready to get into this conversation, So let's do it.

26
00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:24,320
Speaker 3: This is Cheeky's and chill all right, y'alls.

27
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,200
Speaker 1: Sitting here with me right now is Vanessa Sanchez, my boo.

28
00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,479
Speaker 1: She's actually right down the street for me, you guys.

29
00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,120
Speaker 1: She lives like literally down the street from me.

30
00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:31,600
Speaker 3: Okay.

31
00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,240
Speaker 1: So she's a hair stylist who has worked celebrities like

32
00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,320
Speaker 1: my mother Jenny Rivera. She's also worked with Kate del Castillo,

33
00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,520
Speaker 1: whom we've had on the podcast before. That was a

34
00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,560
Speaker 1: really great interview, by the way, and she's also my

35
00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,440
Speaker 1: hairstylist friend and business partner.

36
00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,520
Speaker 3: Hipoo, how are you Hipoo?

37
00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm good. It's a little nervous, but I'm good.

38
00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,840
Speaker 3: Don't be nervous. It's okay.

39
00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,160
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's a conversation you know, between

40
00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,200
Speaker 1: go mother is because she's also my go mother, you guys, yes,

41
00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,800
Speaker 1: and talking about her children because I'm the Nina of

42
00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,560
Speaker 1: two of her children. Today's her daughter's graduation and I'm

43
00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,400
Speaker 1: just so grateful that you took the time out of

44
00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,320
Speaker 1: this important date to be on the podcast with us,

45
00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,000
Speaker 1: so thank.

46
00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,080
Speaker 2: You, thank you. Yes. Luckily, her graduation isn't until this evening,

47
00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,280
Speaker 2: so I was able to do both. So I'm super

48
00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,720
Speaker 2: excited and nervous, and you know, I'm very proud.

49
00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,240
Speaker 1: You should be very proud. She is such a beautiful

50
00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,040
Speaker 1: you guys. She's beautiful from the outside and the inside.

51
00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,959
Speaker 1: She's super smart. And that's her eldest and she's graduating

52
00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,400
Speaker 1: from nursing school, you guys.

53
00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,240
Speaker 2: Yes, so we're gonna have a nurse to take care

54
00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:26,560
Speaker 2: of us.

55
00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,600
Speaker 1: Yes, my bees and all that kind of stuff. Both talks,

56
00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe right, So congratulations on that to all of you,

57
00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,000
Speaker 1: because it's her dad, you and and her stepdad your husband,

58
00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,000
Speaker 1: So you guys did a great job. So you guys,

59
00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a lot of things because I

60
00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,880
Speaker 1: have gotten comments before, not as much as like, I

61
00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,200
Speaker 1: don't know, like ten years ago, when people would be like, oh,

62
00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,640
Speaker 1: how is Vanessa your friend? And didn't she want to

63
00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,560
Speaker 1: kick your ass because she was your mom's friend, And I.

64
00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,400
Speaker 3: Was like, uh, yes, that is all correct.

65
00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,640
Speaker 1: And we've never talked about it, like we've never like

66
00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,960
Speaker 1: and we're not talked about it. We've talked about it,

67
00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,360
Speaker 1: but we haven't talked about it in public, and Vanessa's

68
00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,760
Speaker 1: is one of the few people that were very close

69
00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,280
Speaker 1: to my mom the last two years of her life,

70
00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,480
Speaker 1: especially the last days, you guys, of my mom's life.

71
00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,000
Speaker 1: Vanessa was there and she's never spoken about that publicly,

72
00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,280
Speaker 1: and I am grateful for that.

73
00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560
Speaker 3: I know my siblings are grateful for that. And we

74
00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:17,440
Speaker 3: just didn't like.

75
00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,160
Speaker 1: Really think, oh it's necessary to talk about certain details.

76
00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,600
Speaker 1: But now time has passed and now I'm like, okay,

77
00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,360
Speaker 1: well it's part of my story. So anyways, Vanessa was

78
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,000
Speaker 1: my mom's friends.

79
00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,320
Speaker 3: First.

80
00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,120
Speaker 1: They started off because my mom needed a hairstylist, so

81
00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,040
Speaker 1: Vanessa did her hair, and from there it turned into

82
00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,920
Speaker 1: a friendship and you spent a lot of time with her,

83
00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,440
Speaker 1: especially the last day. So tell us a little bit

84
00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,800
Speaker 1: about how you guys met.

85
00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,880
Speaker 2: Where we met. She was looking for a hairdresser and

86
00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,040
Speaker 2: she said she was gonna call me, and I was

87
00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,000
Speaker 2: like really, I was like, Jenny's gonna call me, and

88
00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was like not true, you know, it

89
00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,880
Speaker 2: was like whatever, And sure enough, they had told me

90
00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,000
Speaker 2: at the time that her phone number started with an

91
00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,320
Speaker 2: nine O nine area code, and you know, I never

92
00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,240
Speaker 2: answered random numbers and They're like, make sure you answer

93
00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,240
Speaker 2: that nine o nine number. It's gonna be Jenny. And

94
00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,360
Speaker 2: I was like okay. And then like two days went

95
00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,119
Speaker 2: by and she get call. So I was like, yeah,

96
00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,640
Speaker 2: it's just probably a bunch of like bs, she's not

97
00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,640
Speaker 2: gonna call. And then she I saw a nine o

98
00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,080
Speaker 2: nine number come through and I was like holy shit,

99
00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,080
Speaker 2: and I was like okay, So I answered the phone

100
00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,040
Speaker 2: and I still forget. I was in the middle of

101
00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,000
Speaker 2: the salon and I walked to the back to the

102
00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,039
Speaker 2: color room to take the call, and she just said, hey, girl,

103
00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,880
Speaker 2: it's me Jenny. And I was like, oh my god.

104
00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,080
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh, hey, how are you you know?

105
00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,360
Speaker 2: So she asked me if I still did extensions, if

106
00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,000
Speaker 2: I took that you know that class, And which was

107
00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,920
Speaker 2: the funny thing was that the first time I met her,

108
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,799
Speaker 2: she had extensions in her hair, and I was concerned,

109
00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,440
Speaker 2: not concerned. I was I didn't do them at the time.

110
00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,960
Speaker 2: So I was debating. We're talking like I don't know

111
00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,960
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago what extension line to go through, which class,

112
00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,359
Speaker 2: And it was like a lot of money. It was

113
00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,920
Speaker 2: like either a class was like either seventeen hundred or

114
00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,040
Speaker 2: three thousand dollars to learn how to do extensions. So

115
00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,719
Speaker 2: I didn't know where to put my investment in, you know,

116
00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,880
Speaker 2: and I was a lot of money, like for me

117
00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,839
Speaker 2: back then, and I mean it still is, but I

118
00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,599
Speaker 2: mean it was a lot.

119
00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

120
00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,039
Speaker 2: So anyway, so I was like, let me, let me

121
00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,120
Speaker 2: ask her which one she has and what she recommends

122
00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,279
Speaker 2: since she wears them. And she's like, oh, I love

123
00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,960
Speaker 2: these extensions and you know, I love hairlocks and they're

124
00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000
Speaker 2: the best. And I was like, okay, So I was

125
00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,800
Speaker 2: between hairlocks and like I forgot the other brand, like

126
00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,839
Speaker 2: Great Lines or something like that back in the day.

127
00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,839
Speaker 2: So I took the class, I made the investment, and

128
00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,839
Speaker 2: that was it. Like I didn't ever call her to

129
00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,520
Speaker 2: tell her that, you know, I had taken the course

130
00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,800
Speaker 2: or anything like that. And I continue doing extensions for

131
00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,039
Speaker 2: like a good solid five years. When she called and asked, hey,

132
00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,400
Speaker 2: did you ever take that class?

133
00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,920
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I didn't know that.

134
00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was like I did so five years later,

135
00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,839
Speaker 2: five years later, Like it was like a seed was planted.

136
00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,040
Speaker 2: And I'll never like forget that because I could have said, no,

137
00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, I took the other route that was cheap,

138
00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,040
Speaker 2: but I took the route that you know, I just said,

139
00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,160
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm gonna take it. And I did, and

140
00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,880
Speaker 2: she goes, how good are you? And I said I'm

141
00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,920
Speaker 2: really good. I've been doing them for like five years.

142
00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,920
Speaker 2: And she's like wow, okay, and she said, okay, I'm

143
00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,080
Speaker 2: gonna have my assistant at the time was Julie. And

144
00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,440
Speaker 2: she goes, I'm gonna have my assistant drop off my

145
00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,880
Speaker 2: hair and that way you can go and order hair

146
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,680
Speaker 2: for me. And I was like okay, and she did.

147
00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,720
Speaker 2: Julie came and dropped off all these samples of hair,

148
00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,880
Speaker 2: and I was like, then I didn't know what to

149
00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,800
Speaker 2: do because the hair was really expensive, and I was like,

150
00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,880
Speaker 2: how do I pay for all this? It's like almost

151
00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,120
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars worth of hair, and like what if

152
00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,640
Speaker 2: she doesn't show up? But I don't want to act

153
00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,480
Speaker 2: like I'm broke and I can't afford to buy her

154
00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,200
Speaker 2: hair beforehand. So I was like, you know what, I'm

155
00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,800
Speaker 2: just going to take a leap of faith and I'm

156
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,400
Speaker 2: just going to buy the hair. And because it's non

157
00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,080
Speaker 2: refundable and it's expensive, and it's expensive, so I was

158
00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,000
Speaker 2: like yeah, So I did, and I went and I

159
00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,960
Speaker 2: bought all her hair, and I bought extra cause I

160
00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,520
Speaker 2: was like, what if it's not enough? And then like

161
00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,440
Speaker 2: what if it's you know, I just so I ended

162
00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,559
Speaker 2: up spending like probably close to like twenty five hundred

163
00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,719
Speaker 2: dollars just on hair for her, and I was like

164
00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,039
Speaker 2: so scared because I'm like, if she doesn't show up

165
00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,200
Speaker 2: or she doesn't like it, I'm freaking screwed.

166
00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

167
00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,400
Speaker 2: So, she had asked for complete privacy because she had

168
00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,920
Speaker 2: had a fallen out with her hairdresser for not having

169
00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,480
Speaker 2: privacy in her hair salon visits. And I said, okay, yeah,

170
00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,400
Speaker 2: you know, so I went in on a on a Monday,

171
00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,560
Speaker 2: which was a day off, my day off, my salon

172
00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,880
Speaker 2: was closed, and she was about an hour and a

173
00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,160
Speaker 2: half late, and I was sitting there thinking like, damn,

174
00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,320
Speaker 2: she's not gonna show up. You know.

175
00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,600
Speaker 1: She was an hour and a half late, an hour

176
00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,040
Speaker 1: and a half late, So Jenny, that is so Jenny.

177
00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,240
Speaker 2: Then, so then I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna

178
00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,120
Speaker 2: call her. And I called her. She's like, hey girl,

179
00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I got tied up, and you know,

180
00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,280
Speaker 2: I'm literally down the street, I'm on my way, and

181
00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,160
Speaker 2: I was like Okay, well that's good, you know, like

182
00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,080
Speaker 2: that's fine. You know. So she came in and it

183
00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,200
Speaker 2: was just like I was so nervous too, Like I

184
00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,960
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit. And then when I saw her hair,

185
00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,800
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait, you don't only need extensions, like

186
00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,320
Speaker 2: you need your whole hair done, like your roots, your highlights.

187
00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,000
Speaker 2: She goes, I know, and I'm like.

188
00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,800
Speaker 3: Okay, she forgot that a very small detail.

189
00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,080
Speaker 2: Right, And I was like, oh okay. So now I'm

190
00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,160
Speaker 2: like now I'm doing color and I'm doing all this stuff.

191
00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,120
Speaker 2: And so in a nutshell, it was like about eight

192
00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,640
Speaker 2: hours later because back then we had to do individual extensions,

193
00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160
Speaker 2: which now I only do like tapein's or sew in

194
00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,960
Speaker 2: and it was like one by one, so two hundred

195
00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,960
Speaker 2: and fifty pieces individually put into her hair.

196
00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,800
Speaker 3: That's insane. I remember though, she loved those damn things.

197
00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,880
Speaker 2: She loved those damn things, and I was like, it.

198
00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,200
Speaker 1: Would pull my hair out, but she was like stuck

199
00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,000
Speaker 1: on them. And she my mom wore extensions for years,

200
00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,120
Speaker 1: you guys. She could not see herself with that extensions.

201
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,240
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

202
00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,600
Speaker 2: So eight hours later, you know, and I showed her

203
00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,520
Speaker 2: hair and she like loved it. I still have the

204
00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,720
Speaker 2: picture of the day that I showed her the back

205
00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,199
Speaker 2: of her hair and she goes, you passed the test,

206
00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, what test? And then she goes

207
00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,080
Speaker 2: the hairdressing test. My hair looks she was like grabbed it.

208
00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,120
Speaker 2: She's like, I love it. It looks amazing, and you

209
00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,319
Speaker 2: know this is that. I was like, I didn't know

210
00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,240
Speaker 2: it was being tested. She was, oh, you were being tested.

211
00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,680
Speaker 1: That is so Jenny fashion, Like it is just hurt

212
00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,439
Speaker 1: it to test you, you know what I mean.

213
00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,760
Speaker 3: And she's like, Okay, I just want you to know

214
00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,760
Speaker 3: your own trial. You're on probation. I just kind of

215
00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,120
Speaker 3: you know.

216
00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,280
Speaker 1: But but that's awesome because now I didn't know this

217
00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,080
Speaker 1: whole story about like she had told you to take

218
00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,240
Speaker 1: the class. So it's like she has a lot to

219
00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,520
Speaker 1: do with Oh yeah, like your cap year and you

220
00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you've been doing her for

221
00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,760
Speaker 1: like what twenty five years, twenty eight years, twenty eight years,

222
00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,000
Speaker 1: you guys, and she's Vanessa, still looks real good, you guys,

223
00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,360
Speaker 1: just fy. She has four kids. But like, so you've

224
00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,400
Speaker 1: been doing hair for a long ass time. But I

225
00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,360
Speaker 1: didn't know this story, which is awesome. Look, I'm even

226
00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,360
Speaker 1: learning something, you know, you guys, and I know that

227
00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,480
Speaker 1: she's been. She was a huge part of like your career,

228
00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,320
Speaker 1: but also as like a mother and as a wife,

229
00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, like she was a very good friend to

230
00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,360
Speaker 1: you in that way.

231
00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was. She was like I always say, like

232
00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:47,640
Speaker 2: the sister I never have.

233
00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,560
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's true. And she has you have her

234
00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,880
Speaker 3: tattooed on your arm?

235
00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have her on them.

236
00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,400
Speaker 3: She got it done after my mom passed. Yeah.

237
00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,600
Speaker 2: And I remember, like that Thursday before she left, I

238
00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,960
Speaker 2: was packed for her to go to Monterrey and she

239
00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,680
Speaker 2: was showing me on her phone some pictures of fans

240
00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,800
Speaker 2: of hers that had tattoos of her, like a girl

241
00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,079
Speaker 2: that had one like in her back, smoking and different things,

242
00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,839
Speaker 2: and I'm like, they're crazy. I told her, who would

243
00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,000
Speaker 2: tattoo you? Like, I mean, you're good, but like to

244
00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,480
Speaker 2: put you on there like that, that's insane. And she goes,

245
00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,840
Speaker 2: what are you jealous, bitch? And I said, no, I'm

246
00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,880
Speaker 2: just like I would just never do that, Like, I mean,

247
00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,600
Speaker 2: I love Prince. At the time, Prince was still alive,

248
00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,240
Speaker 2: and I said, but I would never go blast prints

249
00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,240
Speaker 2: on my body like that's insane.

250
00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,440
Speaker 3: And then not even and look, you guys.

251
00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,960
Speaker 2: I ate my words, not even not even a month

252
00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,840
Speaker 2: maybe two months later, she was my first portrait.

253
00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,640
Speaker 1: It's because she impacted your life so much. And yeah,

254
00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,880
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about all of that. But anyways, okay,

255
00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,360
Speaker 1: So my mom picky with her hair.

256
00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760
Speaker 2: She wasn't picky. I mean, she was picky, but not

257
00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,080
Speaker 2: She wasn't a fool diva when it came to her

258
00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,280
Speaker 2: hair unless we were like about to go on stage.

259
00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,040
Speaker 2: Then she was a real diva. Like right before she

260
00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 2: went on, she would like nitpick and she would take

261
00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,880
Speaker 2: the curly nine for me and start culling her own

262
00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,640
Speaker 2: hair that I already curled, and I was like, whatever,

263
00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,400
Speaker 2: just it makes her feel good that she's doing. She's

264
00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:06,800
Speaker 2: like that.

265
00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,400
Speaker 1: Though even with her makeup, she wanted to do her

266
00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,120
Speaker 1: own eyebrows. Scara her only good liner.

267
00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, so you're just paying for eyeshadow, foundation and contour.

268
00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,280
Speaker 3: Exactly because she was a little bit of a control freak.

269
00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,319
Speaker 1: So I know she wanted her curls a certain way

270
00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,200
Speaker 1: where those curls, in my opinion, aren't in anymore right,

271
00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,880
Speaker 1: and they were kind of not in back then. But

272
00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,360
Speaker 1: for her, it's like I want my curly hair because

273
00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,880
Speaker 1: throughout the show, right, you know. But she was so

274
00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,080
Speaker 1: picky if like one curl was at a place, you

275
00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,760
Speaker 1: guys should be like hold on, you miss And even

276
00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:35,920
Speaker 1: in the.

277
00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,079
Speaker 2: Fast I would always have like a little spot that

278
00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,240
Speaker 2: I would miss her hair. She's also delave this for good.

279
00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,599
Speaker 3: Luck or what like that's true. She's like this is

280
00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,280
Speaker 3: for good luck.

281
00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:44,840
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

282
00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,199
Speaker 1: She would and you would think she's not paying attention

283
00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,320
Speaker 1: because she would be on her phone all day, like

284
00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,160
Speaker 1: when you were doing her hair her makeup, but then

285
00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,520
Speaker 1: she she would know she won't see that thing.

286
00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,120
Speaker 2: Everything. She knew everything was going on. If like the

287
00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,200
Speaker 2: era was like wrong between like me and one of

288
00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,360
Speaker 2: the other people on her team were not getting along,

289
00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,160
Speaker 2: she was like so swapping, what did they do to you?

290
00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,240
Speaker 2: What's going on? Like she knew she knew something was off,

291
00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,240
Speaker 2: like very instantly.

292
00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, she knew. My mother was very busy, but

293
00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:12,720
Speaker 3: very present.

294
00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,160
Speaker 2: I remember one time that we were at Deno Talento

295
00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,880
Speaker 2: and I had got I was pregnant at the time,

296
00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,120
Speaker 2: and I had a big fight with my kid's father

297
00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640
Speaker 2: at the time, and I was just like holding it together. Like,

298
00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,240
Speaker 2: so I did her hair and I didn't like shed

299
00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,439
Speaker 2: one tear, like, but I was like broken by some

300
00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,760
Speaker 2: stuff that had happened between me and him. But I

301
00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,480
Speaker 2: was like, this is work and I have to like

302
00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,360
Speaker 2: separate the two. And again I didn't say a word

303
00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,240
Speaker 2: to her. I didn't say anything, and she went. I

304
00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,079
Speaker 2: did her hair, She performed, and she came back and

305
00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,760
Speaker 2: she closed the door and she asked everybody to get out,

306
00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, am I getting fired? Like what

307
00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,680
Speaker 2: the fuck is why is she doing that? She goes,

308
00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,120
Speaker 2: she touched me, She goes, what's wrong? What did you

309
00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,000
Speaker 2: do you? And I was like this and my tears

310
00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:57,319
Speaker 2: just went.

311
00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,480
Speaker 3: That's so crazy, Vanessa. I'm like that, Yeah, she's.

312
00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,520
Speaker 2: Like waited, she waited to go and do what she

313
00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,080
Speaker 2: had to do because she didn't have time to like

314
00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,319
Speaker 2: obviously address it. And I wasn't going to bring it up,

315
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,000
Speaker 2: like I'm not going to pawn my problems onto her,

316
00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,040
Speaker 2: like she was about to go on stage, like that's

317
00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,400
Speaker 2: not it's not what I do. But yeah, she came

318
00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,120
Speaker 2: back and then she was just like what happened? What

319
00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,199
Speaker 2: did he do? I know, I know something's wrong, and

320
00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm like how I didn't say a word.

321
00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,040
Speaker 1: It's because she's she was very human, you know what

322
00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean. And that's one thing that is a good

323
00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,560
Speaker 1: thing and a bad thing. And I have become like

324
00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,079
Speaker 1: that where I my my employees become like my family,

325
00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,560
Speaker 1: you know. So it's not just like come and do

326
00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,480
Speaker 1: a service for me and that's it. It's like, no,

327
00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,120
Speaker 1: like they become part of our family or extended family.

328
00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,000
Speaker 1: So I think she she would feel it. She was

329
00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,200
Speaker 1: very like in tune with her feelings in other people

330
00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:45,600
Speaker 1: as well.

331
00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,760
Speaker 3: No matter how busy she was, she.

332
00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,120
Speaker 1: Always took the time to like text you, hey, how

333
00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,600
Speaker 1: are you and and she would respond, even if it

334
00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,959
Speaker 1: was hours later, she would respond. And it's just little

335
00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,240
Speaker 1: things like that that people don't know. And I think

336
00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,079
Speaker 1: the whole funny thing about this is obviously when you

337
00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,040
Speaker 1: know Jenny was supposed to call you, you know Jenny Rivera,

338
00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,679
Speaker 1: and she like for me, I didn't know that you

339
00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,480
Speaker 1: weren't like a fan, not even of the music you

340
00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,599
Speaker 1: guys have, regional music. She didn't anything. She didn't know

341
00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,319
Speaker 1: about nothing. It was just I know, Jenny Rivera is

342
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,240
Speaker 1: a famous person. I'm doing a famous person. But she

343
00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,280
Speaker 1: wasn't like a fan fan, you guys. It wasn't like

344
00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,080
Speaker 1: I love her music and I love.

345
00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm honestly a fan of her music. Like where I'm

346
00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,720
Speaker 2: like loved it till and it's crazy to say like

347
00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,840
Speaker 2: after she left, because to me, she was just my friend. Yeah,

348
00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,840
Speaker 2: So it didn't like it didn't like I would think

349
00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,920
Speaker 2: she was bad ass and I loved it when I

350
00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,520
Speaker 2: started working with her, but not till after I was like,

351
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,640
Speaker 2: holy fuck, I realized the magnitude of what she offered

352
00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,880
Speaker 2: to everybody as opposed to like when I was. I

353
00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,720
Speaker 2: met her as a friend and as a criant. So

354
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,360
Speaker 2: it did it? Did it? I wasn't a fan.

355
00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,160
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.

356
00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,320
Speaker 1: I think that that makes it even more special because

357
00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,520
Speaker 1: people could say, oh, you know, it's all about Clout

358
00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,680
Speaker 1: and you know, writing her coattel and it's like, actually,

359
00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't.

360
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,600
Speaker 3: It was quite the opposite. And how long did you

361
00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,000
Speaker 3: do her.

362
00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,400
Speaker 2: Hair before she left? I guess I met her the

363
00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,800
Speaker 2: first time into on thousand and seven, and then I

364
00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,440
Speaker 2: started doing our hair I believe in like two thousand

365
00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:04,960
Speaker 2: and nine.

366
00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,280
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so yeah, so that's the story with them,

367
00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:16,920
Speaker 1: and how they met you, guys, my mom and I

368
00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, we had a big fallout. Some of

369
00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,080
Speaker 1: you may know, some of you might know, but you

370
00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,000
Speaker 1: guys can read the stories in both my books, you know,

371
00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,400
Speaker 1: Forgiveness or Unbreakable.

372
00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,360
Speaker 3: No wait, Unbreakable, Unstoppable, Unstoppable, Yeah, unstoppable. That's my mom.

373
00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,000
Speaker 1: My mom's unbreakable. Oh mom, Wait, So anyways, that's a

374
00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,640
Speaker 1: detailed story. But in twenty twelve. October of twenty twelve,

375
00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,360
Speaker 1: my mom and I had a huge fallout the beginning

376
00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,280
Speaker 1: of the month with my sister, Jenica's Quintennera and I

377
00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,080
Speaker 1: was very scared to go because my mom was like,

378
00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,960
Speaker 1: you can't bring anyone. You're gonna come and uh yeah,

379
00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,640
Speaker 1: we're not talking, but you need to be here for

380
00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,040
Speaker 1: your sister.

381
00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,000
Speaker 3: And I said, okay, So there I go.

382
00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,160
Speaker 1: I was so nervous and no one was talking to me.

383
00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,040
Speaker 1: It was just a huge, huge, huge misunderstanding. There were

384
00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people that I feel didn't want to

385
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,320
Speaker 1: see my mom and I close, so a lot of

386
00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,240
Speaker 1: people had to do a chatt on man non esto.

387
00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,240
Speaker 3: It went on.

388
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,840
Speaker 1: Vanessa being her friend was the one that I was

389
00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,240
Speaker 1: like scared of the most because I remember walking in

390
00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,560
Speaker 1: and she looked at me. She gave me eyes of death.

391
00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,320
Speaker 1: I said, this bitch is gonna fuck me up. And yeah,

392
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,000
Speaker 1: she was like, you gave me these eyes, you know.

393
00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my gosh. And I'll never

394
00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,160
Speaker 1: forget that because I was like shaking in my boots.

395
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I know I shouldn't fight, and

396
00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,280
Speaker 1: Vanessa probably kicked my ass, but I think it was

397
00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,520
Speaker 1: because in that time, it was just difficult.

398
00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

399
00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,400
Speaker 1: Time it was like if you weren't on my mom's

400
00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,280
Speaker 1: side to say the least, or you know, it was

401
00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,880
Speaker 1: like you're against me sort of thing, right.

402
00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was more like I was one sided.

403
00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,720
Speaker 2: And I guess, you know, like I said, seeing your mom, like,

404
00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, go through what she went through in those

405
00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,320
Speaker 2: last you know, moments, and how she would cry and

406
00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,960
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So it got to a point where

407
00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,879
Speaker 2: I had to make a decision to have her back,

408
00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,920
Speaker 2: because not that I believed that what she was believing

409
00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,760
Speaker 2: was true. It was more like for her own sanity

410
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,720
Speaker 2: and for her own safety, she needed to know like

411
00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,760
Speaker 2: I believed her even though that were around her. Yes,

412
00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,200
Speaker 2: if you were on her team. If you were left

413
00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,199
Speaker 2: the little people that were left on our team, you

414
00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,240
Speaker 2: had to be one hundred percent on our team because

415
00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,000
Speaker 2: if you brought any little thing, I would have smiled

416
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,400
Speaker 2: at you or would have like been nice to you.

417
00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,600
Speaker 2: It would have been I don't know what would have happened.

418
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 1: Right, She needed to feel that, she needed to feel

419
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,719
Speaker 1: that the people that are closest to her and that

420
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,960
Speaker 1: she loved and you know, loved her that no matter

421
00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,480
Speaker 1: what they were with her. So just to give a

422
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,439
Speaker 1: little bit of a backstory, you guys, because some of

423
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,440
Speaker 1: you may not know this, and I don't.

424
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,439
Speaker 3: Really like to talk about it anymore, but someone started

425
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,360
Speaker 3: this rumor.

426
00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,840
Speaker 1: That I had slept with my mom's husband, Esteman, and

427
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,160
Speaker 1: that is absolutely false. That never happened, it never will happen.

428
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,680
Speaker 1: They said that there was a video, and there is

429
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,520
Speaker 1: a video. There is a video, but there's nothing on

430
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,960
Speaker 1: that video, any inappropriate conduct, nothing, And Vanessa watched it

431
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,040
Speaker 1: along with Johnny, my brother, for hours and hours and

432
00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,000
Speaker 1: hours at a time.

433
00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,399
Speaker 2: Yes, that that is correct, and that's that's something that

434
00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,480
Speaker 2: I have never spoken on because of respect to you,

435
00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,719
Speaker 2: your brothers, and I mean your siblings. You know, I

436
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,159
Speaker 2: love your family very much, and to me, it's like,

437
00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,639
Speaker 2: it's not my place to go and you know, get interviews.

438
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,040
Speaker 2: I mean I got offered tons of interviews after your

439
00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,000
Speaker 2: mom passed away, and I was like, that's not that's

440
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 2: not who I am, that's not my style. I won't

441
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 2: do that, you know. But now it's been so many

442
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 2: years that it's happened, and you know, I feel like,

443
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 2: you know what, like Cheeky's like, obviously our friendship has

444
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 2: grown and we're we've been closed for a very long time,

445
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,240
Speaker 2: and it's very frustrating and upsetting to me the way people,

446
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 2: the media, other family members of yours tried to not

447
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 2: defend you and drag your name through the through the gutter.

448
00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 2: When I I all that video for about four to

449
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 2: six hours with your mom over and over with Johnny

450
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 2: with Julie. We sat in her room and Johnny was

451
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 2: going back up and down the stairs seeing it.

452
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,120
Speaker 3: And Johnny at like the age of what hell does.

453
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 2: He like nine? He was the old woman that I

454
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,679
Speaker 2: know how to work the computers. Yeah, So he was

455
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 2: playing I'm back and forth and he was like, what's

456
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 2: going on, mama, Mama, She's like, go play it back

457
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 2: to you know whatever. He's like, okay, mama, and he

458
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 2: kept like going up and down the stairs, and I'm like,

459
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 2: as I was watching this video with her, I'm like thinking, like, whoa,

460
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,920
Speaker 2: what are we going to see? What's gonna happen? Because

461
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,439
Speaker 2: we've already been watching it for like X amount of

462
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,919
Speaker 2: time And by the vibe in the room was like

463
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,679
Speaker 2: I was thinking I was going to see some like

464
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 2: crazy shit, and I'm like, I don't see anything. I

465
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 2: don't see anything like what's going on? And I would

466
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 2: look at her and I would look at Julie and

467
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, is she going crazy? Or am I like blind?

468
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 2: Like what's going on? And then it got to the

469
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 2: point where I realized, I mean, and I know this

470
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 2: may sound bad. I don't know if the delusionals the

471
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: world just over. We're tired. She just was seeing something

472
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: that wasn't there.

473
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: You know.

474
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 3: It was going through a lot.

475
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: And there was one particular woman And I talk about

476
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 1: this in my book, you guys, so that's what I'm saying.

477
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: Go read it if you want to know the full story.

478
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 3: But there was one.

479
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,360
Speaker 1: Particular woman that had just entered her life a few

480
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: months before who was just in her ear, and I

481
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: think wanted to take control and was putting just so

482
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 1: many toxic things in her that I think my mom

483
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 1: just wasn't thinking clearly, and she was exhausted, and she

484
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: was losing weight rapidly, so I think she wasn't eating enough.

485
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: She was also having issues with a step on, her husband,

486
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: and then this whole thing and the video. We're talking

487
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 1: about surveillance cameras. You guys, she had a camera. We

488
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: had cameras all over the house and in our house

489
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: in Encino and even inside in the stairs to see

490
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: who would go into the bedrooms.

491
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 3: So in that video, you.

492
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: See me walking into my mom's bedroom to say bye

493
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 1: to a step on because my mom wasn't home and

494
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: I was in in there for no more than five

495
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 1: minutes together, and you see me walk out down the stairs.

496
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: Outside of the door, you see my car drive away exactly,

497
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 1: my little buggy drive away, and that's it. So I

498
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: was just like what When I finally watched this video,

499
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: because I didn't watch it until after she passed, I

500
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: was like.

501
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 2: What the hell?

502
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: How where do you clearly see me walk into the

503
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: room and the camera is counting down and it's not

504
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: even five minutes. It's a little bit less than five minutes.

505
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: You see me walk down and leave. So I was

506
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: just like, what is happening? Like, I was so confused.

507
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: I was devastated, you guys, I was devastated for two

508
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: months of my life before my mom passed away.

509
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: So that was in October.

510
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 2: And then I would want to clarify something that people

511
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: say that just this is like one hundred percent real

512
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: the truth. They say she was walking out of the

513
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: room fixing her clothes. That is fucking bullshit.

514
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: Oh that I was.

515
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: She was not walking that you were, and you did

516
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: not walk out of the room fixing your clothes. I

517
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: put my life on the line, my four children on

518
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 2: the line, like that you walked out of the room

519
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: and you just like skip your happy way down the

520
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: stairs like there was no there was nothing of that sort, like,

521
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 2: and I know that, and I vouched that one hundred percent,

522
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: you know, and I watched that video and there's that

523
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 2: wasn't the case, like at all. It was.

524
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was something that completely devastated me for years

525
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: until one day. I mean, obviously, you guys know I

526
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: go to therapy. I love therapy. Twenty thirteen was one

527
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: of the worst years of my life, living without my mother,

528
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: trying to raise my siblings, dealing with this shit the media,

529
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: and just wanting my family to come out, the people

530
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: that had watched that video to come out and defend me,

531
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't.

532
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: And it was just I was little. I was living

533
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: in hell.

534
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: It was horrible, and thank goodness my strength and I

535
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I said, let me take

536
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: this negative thing that happened in my life and see

537
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: it as something positive.

538
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: And it gave me the strength.

539
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: And I feel like my mom in some way because

540
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: we never got to talk about it, like thoroughly, and

541
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: for me to show her my evidence, and I had evidence.

542
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: I have the evidence still. I have the phone bill,

543
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: I have everything. I was like, look, mom, this is

544
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: where I was. I would have never ever done that,

545
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 1: you know.

546
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: And I told her that, I said, let her show

547
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: you the phone bill that she was on the phone

548
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: with Angel, like it's everything's tracked.

549
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 3: Angel's my ex boyfriend, you guys, yeah, oh yeah, sorry.

550
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like or yeah, she was on the phone.

551
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: And so I said, let her show you the thing.

552
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: She goes, oh, papers could be altered, I said, yeah,

553
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: but not the online can't be altered if we log in,

554
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: if she brings her computer, she logs into the you know,

555
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 2: the Verizon. I believe you had Verizon at the time.

556
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: She had told me, and she goes, we log into Verizon.

557
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: She can't alter the website. Yeah, if it's if you're

558
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: on the phone for step forty seven minutes to somebody,

559
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: you can't change that on a computer in front of

560
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: you at Verizon dot com. You can't. And I said, no,

561
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: you can't.

562
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: It's it almost like she didn't want to fix things.

563
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: And I keep thinking and thinking about it because I

564
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: was the second time that my mom and I had

565
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: a fallout for two to three months.

566
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: You guys, that's the second time.

567
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: The first time I was fifteen years old, and then

568
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: it happened before she passed, right, So I just feel like,

569
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: not that she knew she was going to pass, but

570
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: it's just like God's plan is so perfect because it

571
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: gave me the strength to be there for my siblings.

572
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened if I would

573
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: have had the strength, if I would have broken down.

574
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if I didn't have those two and

575
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: a half months before my mom passed to prepare myself

576
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: and to go to therapy and for the therapist to

577
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: tell me, well, you got to start living your life

578
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: as if your mother's not here, because it doesn't look

579
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: like you guys are gonna fix things, so you need

580
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: to start just coming to.

581
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: Terms with that.

582
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: And that was two weeks before my mom passed, and

583
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: then not saying that it didn't hurt me when she passed.

584
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: I just was a little further in the healing process,

585
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: in the greeting process than everyone else. So anyways, that's

586
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: just a little bit of it. And that's how this

587
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: whole thing happened. And that's so why because some people

588
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: know this story, and some people knew that Vanessa was

589
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: really close to my mom and now she's really close

590
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: to me, and so people taught crap and say, oh

591
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: my god, why is Vanessa now you're co madre and

592
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: your friend all of a sudden and one of your

593
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: best friends, and blah blah blah.

594
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 3: It must be because it's.

595
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: Clout And I'm like, uh no, that means that she

596
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: was a very loyal friend and she knew right when

597
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: my mom passed, she we fixed things. Everyone was at

598
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: my grandma's house for like two weeks straight. We slept

599
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: at my grandma's house, and Vanessa was one of the

600
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: people that was there almost every day for hours and

601
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: hours at a time. And I remember telling someone at

602
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: my grandma's house, I'm like, you know what, I'm just nervous.

603
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like Vanessa's gonna kick my ass,

604
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: like I don't know. And so they sat us down

605
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: and Vanessa apologized, and you know, she just said, I'm sorry.

606
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: I had to be there for your mom. But I

607
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: got to tell you, I never thought that you did

608
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: it that you did that. It's just I had to

609
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: be on your mom's like I had to show her

610
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: at her back.

611
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely, And you know, to bring up like

612
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: even Thanksgiving, you wrote her an email and she at

613
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: my house. She was at my house when she read

614
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: the email, and she was broken and she was crying

615
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: so hard, and I thought something that like bad had

616
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: happened to you, Like I thought like maybe like you

617
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: had passed away, because she was the way she was crying.

618
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: She was so devastated. And then when I said, what

619
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: is it, and she had a little BlackBerry and she

620
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: was like scrolling down and showing me the email and

621
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: reading it. To me, and she was just crying and

622
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: crying and crying. So then I grabbed her by her

623
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: shoulders and I was like, look, Jen, I was like,

624
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: you need to make a fucking choice, like you need

625
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: to a make a public apology and say you're sorry

626
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: that you messed up, or if your daughter did do that,

627
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: you need to forgive her regardless, because it's killing you.

628
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: She you know, you need to make a choice. That's it,

629
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna end up, like look at you. And

630
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: she just said with that look on her face, and

631
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 2: she told me she's like I know, I know. She

632
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: was like I'm just not ready. I'm I wait until

633
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: I get back from Mexico. So she knew that she

634
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: had made a mistake and she didn't know how to

635
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: fix it. She didn't know how to backpedal because she

636
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: was like, damn, I'm in so deep, like I've done

637
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: so much stuff and I was wrong and it was

638
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: I think it was so hard for her to accept it,

639
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: and she was like, I'm gonna have to fix this,

640
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: and she had it on the back burner because she

641
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: wanted to finish her concert in Monterrey, come back and

642
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: fix things. But you know, time didn't allow that.

643
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that was that Thanksgiving. I remember writing

644
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: that email and I just said, I'm going to send it.

645
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: This is going to be the last time that I

646
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: try to reach out because I had just talked to

647
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: my therapist and I just said, I love you and

648
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm here whenever you want to see my evidence. I

649
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: miss you. Happy Thanksgiving. I spent that Thanksgiving by myself,

650
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: you guys, and then thank God, one of my really

651
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: good friends she invited me to her house because I

652
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: was that's my favorite holiday. So my mom knew that. Yeah,

653
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: she knew that, and she knew that, and she and

654
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: I think it was like we were missing each other

655
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: so much, so much, so it was it was really hard.

656
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: And then you know, she passed and Vanessa was there

657
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: with my mom that Thursday. My mom flew out, I

658
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: think on on Thursday. My mom passed on Sunday, so

659
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: she was there with her, sleeping in her bed with her.

660
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: And then my mom never came back. But yeah, you

661
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: say that you felt something, huh Oh, yeah, I felt.

662
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: It one hundred percent. I knew like something was like

663
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: and I just felt it just this her energy like

664
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: the era like everything like and she wanted to take

665
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: everything with her, Like she took so much stuff, and

666
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: I was like, why are you taking all this stuff?

667
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: She's because it's mine and I can And I was like, okay.

668
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: Like she loved her diamonds, you guys, so she took

669
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: all her expensive, most expensive diamonds with her.

670
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she never would when she would go to Mexico,

671
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: she would take her other stuff, you know.

672
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: Now, you know, forwarding to now what almost eleven years later,

673
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: Vanessa and I, with time little by little started becoming

674
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: really close. And after that conversation and she apologized and

675
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: I said, okay, cool.

676
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: She started doing my hair.

677
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: She was the first one to help me with my

678
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: hair and makeup at like literally she wouldn't charge me.

679
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: You guys, I felt like that that was your way,

680
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: and I don't know, we've never really talked about it,

681
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: like your way of saying I'm sorry and also being

682
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: there being a good friend to my mom. You knew

683
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: how important her kids were, so it's like her daughter's

684
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: about to embark on this new journey of singing. The

685
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: best thing I could do for my friend and for

686
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: her daughter is to be there for her. So she

687
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: didn't charge me. You guys for like years. So she

688
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: would do my extensions and my color and we would

689
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: travel together. And that's how it started. And it just

690
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: grew into being go Madrees and now we have a

691
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: business together. But it's been what since my mom passed, basically.

692
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Right, I mean we were friends before then, but yeah,

693
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: but then.

694
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: We were cool, but you were more my mom's friend,

695
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's something that Vanessa

696
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: and people I think wonder, like why we stopped working together.

697
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: It was more because Vanessa was trying to work things

698
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: out with her ex husband or her baby daddy and

699
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: the kids were little, and I would think like, yeah,

700
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: I was like you traveling and the traveling and I

701
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: just felt very like and my mom felt the same

702
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: way too.

703
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: Remember she might want to take you.

704
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: With her, you don't want to take me. I was

705
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: actually supposed to go with her to Mexico. We talked

706
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: about it and then at the time, my son was

707
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: only six months old, and she said, no, the baby's

708
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: too small, like you need to stay here with him.

709
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And see, those are things that people don't know

710
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: about my mother. My mom was very selfless in that

711
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: way of Okay, I don't want to take you from

712
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: your kids and something happens. I don't want your kids

713
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: to be motherless because they're so little. There were babies,

714
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, so because Renee, you were pregnant, you had

715
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: just had Renee.

716
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, when your mom passed, I had had Renee was

717
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: six months old. But you know I had Lolan Renee.

718
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: They were both under two years old.

719
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, So then when I started my career

720
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, they were babies. They were little babies.

721
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing. You know, other stuff little happened,

722
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: little cheese mes and all that. But we fixed it

723
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: and here we are and now we have we're business partners.

724
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: Yes, we're we have a very very great hair hairline.

725
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: Yes, it's called Plantitas, and we started what we were

726
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: just we had a meeting yesterday. We had a numbers

727
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: meeting with our accountant. And it's doing very well thanks

728
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: to all of you guys. And if you still haven't

729
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: tried it out, you guys need to go to the website,

730
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: okay and check out our products. But it's been what

731
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: two years, you know, so it's been too And because

732
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: again Vanessa has so much experience in the hair world,

733
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: I trusted her, I was like, I want her to

734
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: be my business partner, and I love taking care of

735
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: my hair, and I think we're amazing business partners.

736
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think it's really good because

737
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 2: we like bounce off each other, you know, and like

738
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, you have been you know,

739
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: always into your hair as well. So when I'm like, okay,

740
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: let's try this product, let's try this out, you're a

741
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: good guinea pig, You're like, okay, yeah, I like this. No,

742
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: I don't like the boo. I don't like this as

743
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: sooth thick or it's you know, it makes it weighs

744
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: my hair down and stuff like that. So it's it's good,

745
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: you know. And we're both Latina strong, you know, thriving, hardworking, hardworking,

746
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: and I think it's good, very honest. Yeah, I think

747
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: it's very good that you know, we're able to show

748
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: I feel like other Latinas like it's good to like

749
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: empower each other women and make sure that you know,

750
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: we support all businesses, you know, like I love to

751
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: support like anywhere from like you know, people that make strawberries,

752
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: that make T shirts, you know, graphic designers, like everybody,

753
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: like most everybody on my team on our team is

754
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: a woman, like there is no man on the team. Yeah,

755
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's not that we're biased, but

756
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I just love helping and you know,

757
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: having the women around and then men just throw everything off.

758
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: It's like, forget it.

759
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: Women, we just do things better. We multitask very well.

760
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like every now and then I'll have my husband,

761
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: I can you move these boxes? And he's like I

762
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: thought I could do. I'm like, yeah, just move the boxes.

763
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: We need your man power.

764
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: I love David.

765
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: Shout out to David, her husband, Sergeant Moreno, Sergeant Reno.

766
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: Yes, so so yeah.

767
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing like when you were saying

768
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: that I was a guinea pig, because that's how it started,

769
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: you guys.

770
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: It was very organic.

771
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Like she started with her CBD line because she has

772
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: what is the thing that the TMJ TMJ.

773
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: She's actually the one that told me to do the CBD.

774
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: And I can't smoke weed because I like get paranoia,

775
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: like I can. I've tried every kind and it does

776
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: not work for me. So she's like, whooh, you need

777
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: to try CBD. It's going to really help you. And

778
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell is that. She's like, it's

779
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: not going to make you high. You know.

780
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: I had to educate her on it. She she researched it.

781
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I researched it. I started trying different CBDs

782
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: and that was the only thing that was able to

783
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: help my TMJ.

784
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: And so TMJ, it's like when your jaw locks you guys,

785
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah.

786
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my jaw locks up. And so I started

787
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: with CBD line and then we started getting into like

788
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: the top of boles and rollers and Amnika and I

789
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: was like the ruler. Yeah, and I was like, booh,

790
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: you gotta try this. And she has been my guinea

791
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: pig and like my supporter since day one that I

792
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: started my CBD company, you know.

793
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted for her because she was

794
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: tired of being she loves doing hair, but after so

795
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: many years you guys, being behind a chair. It was

796
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: just just like, I'm like, you need to start a business.

797
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: Do it.

798
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: This is something and the best thing is to have

799
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: a mission statement and a reason behind it, and you

800
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: have a story to tell because this is real. And

801
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: her nervous system was all out of whack. Her stress

802
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: was killing her, so CBD was really the only thing

803
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: that helped calm everything down. So she started that and

804
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: then she's like, I was like, you need to start

805
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: a shampoo line. Honestly, like you need to start a

806
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: shampoo line. And she'say, okay. So she started doing it

807
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: and I started testing everything with her for six months,

808
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: and then we decided to become business partners. And now

809
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: we're barely gonna pay ourselves. You guys see it takes

810
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 1: yeah a while.

811
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: My god, that's so true.

812
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: Yes, because it's like I want people not to get yeah,

813
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: two years, not to get discouraged. Like, if you're a

814
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: small business starting out, be patient. It's a baby. You

815
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: got to just be patient. There are days where it's

816
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: going to be slower than others. But after two years, guys,

817
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: now we're finally gonna pay ourselves.

818
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting a paycheck. And I was so nervous

819
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: to bring it up. Balls off. Well, I'm like, you know,

820
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 2: let's go over our numbers. I was like, wait, boo,

821
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: can we get can we get paid?

822
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? You were like I was gonna bring it up.

823
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: I was like, well, actually I was.

824
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: Too, So so you guys be patient and just know

825
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: that businesses take a while, and the first couple of

826
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: years it's gonna be tough. But here we are, and

827
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of us, and hopefully, you know, we

828
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: can inspire you guys to just if you have an idea,

829
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: if you have something that you love doing and you're

830
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: passionate about, just try it, try it, just do it. Yeah,

831
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: the biggest risk is not taking a risk.

832
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: Right, and then nothing is too small, Like you know,

833
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: like I started with like like four products and I

834
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: think we're up to like thirteen products now, and you know,

835
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: every time we just get bigger and better and we're like, oh,

836
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: we can do this. Like yesterday, me and Lacey were

837
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: up to like we were on a good one like

838
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: till like midnight developed like thinking of all these different things,

839
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: and the brain was just going and going. So it's

840
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: like the more it's I guess it's like working out,

841
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: but I don't work out. But like when they say

842
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: an endorphins start going. So I think once I start

843
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: to get into that work mode, I just cannot turn

844
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: it off. I'm like going and going and going and

845
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: and you know, so girls, women out there, just if

846
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: you have an idea, freaking run with it.

847
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: Man, run with it and start like she said small.

848
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: You can have one or two products, give it your all.

849
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: Once you get money from that, then you can get

850
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: another product, and so on and so forth. So just

851
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: be patient, you guys, be patient. Okay, So I have

852
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: a question for you. Are there frozen con to having

853
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: a business partner?

854
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: Okay?

855
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: And don't worry, because I know I'm your business partner.

856
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: But just for people out there, I mean for me personally,

857
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: I feel that there's more prompt pros than con. So

858
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: only con for me personally is that you you know,

859
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: we're fifty fifty partner, so we have to split everything.

860
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: Fifty fifty, right.

861
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: But other than that, it's less work on me and

862
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm busy doing other things. So that's why I love

863
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: having a business partner, a smart business woman. I only

864
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: have business partners that are women, guys, because that's just

865
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: my shit. You know, that's my thing. But anyways, what

866
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: about you, I.

867
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: Honestly, how do I say this without sounding crazy? I

868
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: honestly would never do business with anybody else but you

869
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: because of the fact that you're so busy that you

870
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: let us run with it. If that makes sense. I

871
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: trust you, you know, and there's trust and I know,

872
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: like you have your own money and you're not like

873
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: I've had like known different people and different experiences in

874
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: the past. I had a friend that I did back

875
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: in like I don't want to say, like twenty years ago.

876
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: I was gonna bind, you know, when I got my

877
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: first and I went into partnership with my hair salon

878
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: and that lasted like probably like not even three weeks,

879
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: and she went psycho and I was like, oh my gosh,

880
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: never again would I ever do this. Like she came in,

881
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: she tried to change the whole salon around, change the music,

882
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: and she just like I was like, what do you mean,

883
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And after that, I was like,

884
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: I'll never have another partner again. Like with this now

885
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: with me and you, I feel like because we have

886
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: the friendship and like it's not our only source of income.

887
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: So it's like we're you know, we're able to dab

888
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: and you know still like I'm obviously still behind the chair,

889
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: and you know, I have the SEVD line as well,

890
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: and you know.

891
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: I like because I have still growing, it's still.

892
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: Growing, and I like to have my eggs and like

893
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 2: different baskets and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean

894
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: it's if you could do it on your own, it's better.

895
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: But if you need if you can find a partner

896
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: that is not relying, if that's not their only source

897
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: of income, then I think it would be okay, it

898
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: would be better because if you guys are both starving

899
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: or starting out and you guys both need money, then

900
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 2: it's going to be very very difficult, you know what

901
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: I mean. But us we did it like of course,

902
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: like we need money, but we have other sources of income,

903
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: so we're not our main jobs. We have our main job,

904
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: so this is kind of like a hobby slash like okay,

905
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: let's grow as latinas as women and you know, let's

906
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: get you know, this going, but it's not our only

907
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: thing that we're relying to put food on the table.

908
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: For exactly so, and obviously our ultimate goal would be

909
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: to live off of this brand eventually, you know, correct.

910
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: So don't leave your job guys and say Okay, I'm

911
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: gonna leave my job and go start this business. I

912
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: think you need to have your job still because that's

913
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: gonna bring in financial stability, and do this as or

914
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: your business as a side hustle until it grows and again,

915
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: it takes one to three years, even sometimes even five,

916
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: you guys, to really have a lucrative business. You have

917
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: to be patients. So don't go in there and be

918
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna leave my job my day. No, keep

919
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: your nine to five or keep whatever it is that

920
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: you're doing. That's basically what we're doing. It's like, I

921
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 1: have so much faith in this brand that I'm still

922
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: doing my singing, I'm still doing everything else, but I

923
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: still do this and I just thank God that I

924
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: have the platform and the way to share it with

925
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: you guys. And it's something that I'm very passionate about.

926
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean hopefully that inspires you guys. And if you

927
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: guys ever have questions, maybe we should have another podcast

928
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: when I say you and I about you know, just business,

929
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: just like you know, business advice or something.

930
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would definitely be good to help

931
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: people with that because I always say there's enough business

932
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: to go around everywhere. Like I still buy other hair

933
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: products from other people, Like you know what I mean,

934
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: It's not just because I have mine, I'm only gonna

935
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: buy my product. I'm not. I mean, ours is great,

936
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: it's the best in my eyes, but there's still other

937
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: people that are just as good. You know, it just depends.

938
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Everybody has different texture, hair, different color, ethnicity. So it's

939
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: not like you can't say, like, this is the best product,

940
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: it's the only one you need, Like, no, you need

941
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: multiple products to create a certain look.

942
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: That's what I love about you. You're not a hater.

943
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: You're not one to be like you know what I mean,

944
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm the same way, which I think that's why

945
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: it works, you guys, that's another thing in partnerships. You

946
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: have to be transparent, have to be honest. You have

947
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: to have these conversations from the very beginning. Look, we're

948
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: two come out that it is coming together two friends,

949
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna let this business get between us.

950
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: We have to be honest and we have to learn

951
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: to separate friendship from business. And let's talk numbers and

952
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: let's show each other this is what's going on in

953
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: the bank account, because you don't want to ever have

954
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: tarnish your friendship for business or money.

955
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: Me honestly, that was my first thing, Like I was like,

956
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: there's no way I'm gonna ruin our friendship or any

957
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: friendship at that matter of mine. I have a very

958
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: small circle over money, like there's no value. Yeah, it's priceless.

959
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 2: It's priceless, is what I meant to say. Like, there's

960
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: no way I'm gonna like over five thousand dollars or

961
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: twenty dollars or ten thousand dollars. Am I going to

962
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: ruin a friendship' That's not it's.

963
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Not And that's what we're both on that same page

964
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: and we talked about it. That was the first thing

965
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: we talked about when we when we entered this partnership

966
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: and just for you know, to before we close out,

967
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: since you've been doing hair for so long, what is

968
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's think of a tip that you

969
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: can give people, okay, for extensions for instance, because I

970
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: think everyone is like into tapins or the k tips

971
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: or whatever. Everyone wants its extensions. What is your opinion

972
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: or a tip that you can give people for their

973
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: extensions to last longer. I already know what you're gonna say,

974
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: because you don't you clipping extensions?

975
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: Exact clips? Yeah, yes, I tell them why? Yeah?

976
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: I like clippings because of the fact that any kind

977
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: of extension you're gonna put into your hair, it's gonna

978
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna do some minimal damage. It's it's it's depending

979
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: on the technician to the method. It doesn't matter what

980
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: anybody tells you, like, oh, these don't damage your hair.

981
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Anything foreign to your hair's gonna damage it. Whether it's

982
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: eyelash extensions, hair extensions, it's gonna do some kind of

983
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: pulling some weight on your hair. So me being that

984
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: been a hair dreser for twenty eight years and I've

985
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: wore extensions all the time. I put them in my

986
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: client's hair all the time, but I let them know, like, hey,

987
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: you need to take breaks me now in between that

988
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: your hair like get healthy and then we can put

989
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: them back in, you know. So my suggestion is like,

990
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: if you already have fine hair, go with clippings. I

991
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: feel like that's just better on and off. But some people,

992
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, if you don't care that you're gonna lose

993
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of hair, then just buy your Plantita

994
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: shampoo and it'll grow back.

995
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that and talking about that.

996
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: Share your social media booth, share your instagram, and share

997
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: the website.

998
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: My instagram is hair by Vanessa Sanchez and our website

999
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: is vspurely Natural dot.

1000
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: Com exactly, and then Also she has her hair salon

1001
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: you guys, it's Prime Hair on Instagram, right right, So

1002
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: there you go, Booth, thank you so much for being on.

1003
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: I had a great conversation with you me too, and

1004
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: I love you at them too. It's so nice to

1005
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: like talk to you like we talk.

1006
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: We you know, we bullshit, we we like sit down

1007
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: and we buzzed and we just you know, talk about things.

1008
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: But this is a different conversation. So thank you for

1009
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: being on. I'm sure we all appreciate it, and you, guys,

1010
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. I hope that you enjoyed and

1011
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: you learned quite a bit about my life, Vanessa's life,

1012
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: our partnership, and that we were able to inspire and

1013
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: empower you to hopefully one day start your.

1014
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: Business if that's what you want to do.

1015
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: And you guys know that before we close out the episode,

1016
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: I always have a quote for you. So this is

1017
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: your quote for the week. Okay, it's not what we

1018
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: have in life, but who we have in our life

1019
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: that matters. Again, it's not what we have in life,

1020
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: but who we have in our life that matters, you guys,

1021
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: So that is your quote.

1022
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Boo. I love you. I'll see

1023
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: you soon too. And yeah, congratulations on the graduation girl

1024
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: or all, look at you.

1025
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. I love you guys, thank you so much. Besitos.

1026
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Do you need advice on love, relationships, health emails. I'm

1027
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: so excited to share with you that my Cheeky's and

1028
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: Chill podcast will have an extra episode drop each week.

1029
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: I'll be answering all your questions. Just leave me a

1030
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: voice message person, Menday. All you have to do is

1031
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: go to speak pipe dot com, slash Cheeky's and Chill

1032
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: Podcasts and record your questions. I can't wait to hear

1033
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: from you. This is a production of iHeartRadio and the

1034
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: Michael Gura podcast Network. Follow us on Instagram at Michael

1035
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: Gurda Podcasts and follow me Cheeky's That's c h I

1036
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: q U i s. For more podcasts from iHeart, visit

1037
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to

1038
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: your favorite podcast, and check us out on YouTube.