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Speaker 1: I have gotten comments when people would be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to your favorite podcast, of course, Cheeky's

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Speaker 1: and Chill Duh. I hope you all are doing amazing.

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Speaker 1: Summer is just around the corner, so I hope you

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Speaker 1: Some My birthday is coming up. We're going to go

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Speaker 1: for a few days and actually our next guest is

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Speaker 1: business endeavors. For those of you who don't know, Vanessa

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Speaker 1: has been a part of my life and a part

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Speaker 1: This is Cheeky's and chill all right, y'alls. Sitting here

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Speaker 1: with me right now is Vanessa Sanchez, my boo. She's

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Speaker 1: she's a hair stylist who has worked celebrities like my

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Speaker 1: Don't be nervous. It's okay. It's just, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: Today's her daughter's graduation and I'm just so grateful that

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Speaker 1: You should be very proud. She is such a beautiful

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we're gonna have a nurse to take care

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Speaker 1: Yes, my bees and all that kind of stuff. Both talks,

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Speaker 1: you know, Forgiveness or Unbreakable. No wait, Unbreakable, Unstoppable, Unstoppable, Yeah, unstoppable,

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Speaker 1: It was like if you weren't on my mom's side,

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Speaker 1: that is absolutely false. That never happened, it never will happen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that that is correct, and that's that's something that

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Speaker 2: I have never spoken on because of respect to you,

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Speaker 2: mom passed away, and I was like, that's not that's

431
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Speaker 2: not who I am, that's not my style. I won't

432
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 2: do that, you know. But now it's been so many

433
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 2: years that it's happened, and you know, I feel like,

434
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 2: you know what, like Cheeky's like, obviously our friendship has

435
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 2: grown and we're we've been closed for a very long time,

436
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,240
Speaker 2: and it's very frustrating and upsetting to me the way people,

437
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 2: the media, other family members of yours tried to not

438
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 2: defend you and drag your name through the through the gutter.

439
00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 2: When I I all that video for about four to

440
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 2: six hours with your mom over and over with Johnny

441
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 2: with Julie. We sat in her room and Johnny was

442
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 2: going back up and down the stairs seeing it.

443
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,120
Speaker 1: And Johnny at like the age of what hell does.

444
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 2: He like nine? He was the old woman that I

445
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,679
Speaker 2: know how to work the computers. Yeah, So he was

446
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 2: playing I'm back and forth and he was like, what's

447
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 2: going on? Mama? Mama? She's like, go play it back

448
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 2: to you know whatever. He's like, okay, mama, and you

449
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 2: kept like going up and down the stairs. And I'm like,

450
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 2: as I was watching this video with her, I'm like thinking, like, whoa,

451
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,920
Speaker 2: what are we going to see? What's gonna happen? Because

452
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,439
Speaker 2: we've already been watching it for like X amount of

453
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,919
Speaker 2: time And by the vibe in the room was like

454
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,679
Speaker 2: I was thinking I was going to see some like

455
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 2: crazy shit, and I'm like, I don't see anything. I

456
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 2: don't see anything like what's going on? And I would

457
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 2: look at her and I would look at Julie and

458
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, is she going crazy? Or am I like blind?

459
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 2: Like what's going on? And then it got to the

460
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 2: point where I realized, I mean, and I know this

461
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 2: may sound bad. I don't know if the delusionals the

462
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: world just over. We're tired. She just was seeing something

463
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: that wasn't there.

464
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 1: You know. It was going through a lot. And there

465
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 1: was one particular woman and I talk about this in

466
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: my book, you guys, so that's what I'm saying. Go

467
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: read it if you want to know the full story.

468
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Speaker 1: But there was one particular woman that had just entered

469
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: her life a few months before who was just in

470
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: her ear, and I think wanted to take control and

471
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: was putting just so many toxic things in her that

472
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 1: I think my mom just wasn't thinking clearly, and she

473
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 1: was exhausted, and she was losing weight rapidly, so I

474
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 1: think she wasn't eating enough. She was also having issues

475
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 1: with a step on, her husband, and then this whole

476
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: thing and the video. We're talking about surveillance cameras. You guys,

477
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 1: she had a camera. We had cameras all over the

478
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: house and in our house in Encino and even inside

479
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: in the stairs to see who would go into the bedrooms.

480
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Speaker 1: So in that video, you see me walking into my

481
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Speaker 1: mom's bedroom to say bye to a step on because

482
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Speaker 1: my mom wasn't home and I was in in there

483
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 1: for no more than five minutes together, and you see

484
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 1: me walk out down the stairs. Outside of the door,

485
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 1: you see my car drive away, exactly, my little buggy

486
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: drive away, and that's it. So I was just like

487
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: what When I finally watched this video, because I didn't

488
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: watch it until after she passed, I was like.

489
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 2: What the hell?

490
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: How where do you clearly see me walk into the

491
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: room and the camera is counting down and it's not

492
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: even five minutes. It's a little bit less than five minutes.

493
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: You see me walk down and leave. So I was

494
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: just like, what is happening? Like I was so confused.

495
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: I was devastated, you guys, I was devastated for two

496
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: months of my life before my mom passed away. So

497
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: that was in October.

498
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Speaker 2: And then I would want to clarify something that people

499
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: say that just this is like one hundred percent real

500
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: the truth. They say she was walking out of the

501
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: room fixing her clothes. That is fucking bullshit.

502
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: Oh that I was.

503
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: She was not walking that you were, and you did

504
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: not walk out of the room fixing your clothes. I

505
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: put my life on the line, my four children on

506
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 2: the line like that you walked out of the room

507
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: and you just like skip your happy way down the

508
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 2: stairs like there was no there was nothing of that

509
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: sort like and I know that, and I vouched that

510
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, you know, and I watched that video

511
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 2: and there's that wasn't the case like at all. It was.

512
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was something that completely devastated me for years

513
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: until one day. I mean, obviously, you guys know I

514
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: go to therapy. I love therapy. Twenty thirteen was one

515
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: of the worst years of my life, living without my mother,

516
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: trying to raise my siblings, dealing with this shit the media,

517
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: and just wanting my family to come out, the people

518
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: that had watched that video to come out and defend me,

519
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't. And it was just I was little.

520
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: I was living in hell. It was horrible, and thank

521
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: goodness my strength and I was like, you know what,

522
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: I said, let me take this negative thing that happened

523
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: in my life and see it as something positive. And

524
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: it gave me the strength. And I feel like my

525
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: mom in some way because we never got to talk

526
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: about it, like thoroughly, and for me to show her

527
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: my evidence, and I had evidence. I have the evidence still.

528
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: I have the phone bill, I have everything. I was like, look, mom,

529
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: this is where I was. I would have never ever

530
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Speaker 1: done that, you know.

531
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: And I told her that, I said, let her show

532
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: you the phone bill that she was on the phone

533
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: with Angel, like it's everything's tracked.

534
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: Angel's my ex boyfriend, you guys, yeah, oh yeah, sorry, yeah, it's.

535
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: Like or yeah, she was on the phone. And so

536
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: I said, let her show you the thing. She goes, oh,

537
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: papers could be altered, I said, yeah, but not. The

538
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: online can't be altered if we log in. If she

539
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: brings her computer, she logs into the you know, the Verizon.

540
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: I believe you had Verizon at the time. She had

541
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: told me. And she goes, we log into Verizon. She

542
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: can't alter the website. Yeah, if it's if you're on

543
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: the phone for step forty seven minutes to somebody, you

544
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: can't change that on a computer in front of you

545
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: at Verizon dot com. You can't. And I said, no,

546
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: you can't.

547
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: It's it almost like she didn't want to fix things.

548
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: And I keep thinking and thinking about it because I

549
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: was the second time that my mom and I had

550
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: a fallout for two to three months. You guys, that's

551
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: the second time. The first time I was fifteen years old,

552
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 1: and then it happened before she passed, right, So I

553
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: just feel like, not that she knew she was going

554
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: to pass, but it's just like God's plan is so

555
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: perfect because it gave me the strength to be there

556
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: for my siblings. I don't know what would have happened

557
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: if I would have had the strength, if I would

558
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: have broken down. I don't know if I didn't have

559
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: those two and a half months before my mom passed

560
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: to prepare myself and to go to therapy, and for

561
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: the therapist to tell me, well, you got to start

562
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: living your life as if your mother's not here, because

563
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like you guys are gonna fix things,

564
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: so you need to start just coming to terms with that.

565
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: And that was two weeks before my mom passed, and

566
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: then not saying that it didn't hurt me when she passed.

567
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: I just was a little further in the healing process,

568
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: in the greeting process than everyone else. So anyways, that's

569
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: just a little bit of it. And that's how this

570
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: whole thing happened. And that's so why because some people

571
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: know this story, and some people knew that Vanessa was

572
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: really close to my mom and now she's really close

573
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: to me, and so people taught crap and say, oh

574
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: my god, why is Vanessa now you're co madre and

575
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: your friend all of a sudden and one of your

576
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: best friends, and blah blah blah. It must be because

577
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: it's Clout And I'm like, uh no, that means that

578
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: she was a very loyal friend and she knew right

579
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: when my mom passed, she we fixed things. Everyone was

580
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: at my grandma's house for like two weeks straight. We

581
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: slept at my grandma's house, and Vanessa was one of

582
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: the people that was there almost every day for hours

583
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: and hours at a time. And I remember telling someone

584
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: at my grandma's house, I'm like, you know what, I'm

585
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: just nervous. I was like, I feel like Vanessa's gonna

586
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: kick my ass, like I don't know. And so they

587
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: sat us down and Vanessa apologized, and you know, she

588
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: just said, I'm sorry. I had to be there for

589
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: your mom. But I got to tell you, I never

590
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: thought that you did it that you did that. It's

591
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: just I had to be on your mom's like I

592
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: had to show her at her back.

593
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely, And you know, to bring up like

594
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: even Thanksgiving, you wrote her an email and she at

595
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: my house. She was at my house when she read

596
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: the email, and she was broken and she was crying

597
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: so hard. And I thought something that like bad had

598
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: happened to you, Like I thought like maybe like you

599
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: had passed away, because she was the way she was crying.

600
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: She was so devastated. And then when I said, what

601
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: is it, and she had a little BlackBerry and she

602
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: was like scrolling down and showing me the email. And

603
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: reading it to me, and she was just crying and

604
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: crying and crying. So then I grabbed her by her

605
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: shoulders and I was like, look, Jen, I was like,

606
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: you need to make a fucking choice, Like you need

607
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: to a make a public apology and say you're sorry

608
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: that you messed up, or if your daughter did do that,

609
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: you need to forgive her regardless, because it's killing you.

610
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: She you know, you need to make a choice. That's it,

611
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna end up like look at you. And

612
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: she just said with that look on her face, and

613
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 2: she told me she's like I know, I know. She

614
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: was like I'm just not ready. I'm I wait until

615
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: I get back from Mexico. So she knew that she

616
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: had made a mistake and she didn't know how to

617
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: fix it. She didn't know how to backpedal because she

618
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: was like, damn, I'm in so deep, like I've done

619
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: so much stuff and I was wrong and it was

620
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: I think it was so hard for her to accept it,

621
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: and she was like, I'm gonna have to fix this,

622
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: and she had it on the back burner because she

623
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: wanted to finish her concert in Monterrey, come back and

624
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: fix things. But you know, time didn't allow that.

625
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that was that Thanksgiving. I remember writing

626
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: that email and I just said, I'm going to send it.

627
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: This is going to be the last time that I

628
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: try to reach out, because I had just talked to

629
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: my therapist and I just said, I love you and

630
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm here whenever you want to see my evidence. I

631
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: miss you. Happy Thanksgiving. I spent that Thanksgiving by myself,

632
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: you guys, and then thank God, one of my really

633
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: good friends she invited me to her house because I

634
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: was that's my favorite holiday. So my mom knew that. Yeah,

635
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: she knew that, and she knew that, and she and

636
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: I think it was like we were missing each other

637
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: so much, so much, so it was it was really hard.

638
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: And then you know, she passed and Vanessa was there

639
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: with my mom that Thursday. My mom flew out, I

640
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: think on on Thursday. My mom passed on Sunday, so

641
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: she was there with her, sleeping in her bed with her.

642
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: And then my mom never came back. But yeah, you

643
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: say that you felt something, huh oh, yeah, I felt.

644
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: It one hundred percent. I knew like something was like

645
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: and I just felt it just this her energy, like

646
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: the era like everything like and she wanted to take

647
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: everything with her, Like she took so much stuff. And

648
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: I was like, why are you taking all this stuff?

649
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: She's because it's mine and I can and I was like, okay.

650
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: Like she loved her diamonds, you guys, So she took

651
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: all her expensive, most expensive diamonds with her.

652
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she never would when she would go to Mexico,

653
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: she would take her other stuff, you know.

654
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: Now, you know, forwarding to now what almost eleven years later,

655
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: Vanessa and I, with time little by little started becoming

656
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: really close. And after that conversation and she apologized and

657
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: I said, okay, cool. She started doing my hair. She

658
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: was the first one to help me with my hair

659
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: and makeup at like literally she wouldn't charge me. You guys,

660
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: I felt like that that was your way, and I

661
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: don't know, we've never really talked about it, like your

662
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: way of saying I'm sorry, and also being there being

663
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: a good friend to my mom. You knew how important

664
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: her kids were, so it's like her daughter's about to

665
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: embark on this new journey of singing. The best thing

666
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: I could do for my friend and for her daughter

667
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: is to be there for her. So she didn't charge me,

668
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: you guys for like years. So she would do my

669
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: extensions and my color and we would travel together. And

670
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: that's how it started. And it just grew into being

671
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: go Madrees and now we have a business together. But

672
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: it's been what since my mom passed, basically.

673
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Right, I mean we were friends before then, but yeah,

674
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: but then.

675
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: We were cool, but you were more my mom's friend,

676
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's something that Vanessa

677
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: and people I think wonder, like why we stopped working together.

678
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: It was more because Vanessa was trying to work things

679
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: out with her ex husband or her baby daddy and

680
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: the kids were little, and I would think, like, yeah,

681
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: I was like you traveling and the traveling and I

682
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: just felt very like and my mom felt the same

683
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: way too. Remember she might want to take you.

684
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: With her, you don't want to take me. I was

685
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: actually supposed to go with her to Mexico. We talked

686
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: about it and then at the time, my son was

687
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: only six months old, and she said, no, the baby's

688
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: too small, like you need to stay here with him.

689
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And see, those are things that people don't know

690
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: about my mother. My mom was very selfless in that

691
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: way of Okay, I don't want to take you from

692
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: your kids and something happens. I don't want your kids

693
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: to be motherless because they're so little. There were babies,

694
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, so because Renee, you were pregnant, you had

695
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: just had Renee.

696
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, when your mom passed, I had had Renee was

697
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: six months old. But you know I had Lolan Renee.

698
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: They were both under two years old.

699
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, So then when I started my career

700
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, they were babies. They were little babies.

701
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing. You know, other stuff little happened,

702
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: little cheese mes and all that. But we fixed it

703
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: and here we are and now we have we're business partners.

704
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: Yes, we're we have a very very great hair hairline.

705
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: Yes, it's called Plantitas, and we started what we were

706
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: just we had a meeting yesterday. We had a numbers

707
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: meeting with our accountant. And it's doing very well thanks

708
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: to all of you guys. And if you still haven't

709
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: tried it out, you guys need to go to the website,

710
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: okay and check out our products. But it's been what

711
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: two years, you know, so it's been too And because

712
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: again Vanessa has so much experience in the hair world,

713
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: I trusted her. I was like, I want her to

714
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: be my business partner, and I love taking care of

715
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: my hair, and I think we're amazing business partners.

716
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think it's really good because

717
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 2: we like bounce off each other, you know, and like

718
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, you have been you know,

719
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: always into your hair as well. So when I'm like, okay,

720
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: let's try this product, let's try this out, you're a

721
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: good guinea pig, You're like, okay, yeah, I like this. No,

722
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: I don't like the boo. I don't like this as

723
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: sooth thick or it's you knows, it weighs my hair

724
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: down and stuff like that. So it's it's good, you know.

725
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: And we're both Latinas strong, you know, thriving, hardworking, hardworking,

726
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: and I think it's good, very honesty. I think it's

727
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: very good that you know, we're able to show I

728
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: feel like other Latinas like it's good to like empower

729
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: each other women and make sure that you know, we

730
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: support all businesses, you know, like I love to support

731
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: like anywhere from like you know, people that make strawberries,

732
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: that make T shirts, you know, graphic designers, like everybody,

733
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: like most everybody on my team. On our team is

734
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: a woman like there is no man on the team. Yeah,

735
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's not that we're biased, but

736
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I just love helping and you know,

737
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: having the women around and then men just throw everything off.

738
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: It's like, forget it.

739
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Women, we just do things better. We multitask very well.

740
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like every now and then I'll have my husband,

741
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: I can you move these boxes? And he's like I

742
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: thought I could do. I'm like, yeah, just move the boxes.

743
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: We need your man power.

744
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: I love David. Shout out to David, her husband, Sergeant Moreno,

745
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Sergeant Reno. Yes, so so yeah. I mean that's the

746
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: thing like when you were saying that I was a

747
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: guinea pig, because that's how it started, you guys. It

748
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: was very organic. Like she started with her CBD line

749
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: because she has what is the thing that the TMJ TMJ.

750
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: She's actually the one that told me to do the CBD.

751
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: And I can't smoke weed because I like get paranoia,

752
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: like I can. I've tried every kind and it does

753
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: not work for me. So she's like, whooh, you need

754
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: to try CBD. It's going to really help you. And

755
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell is that. She's like, it's

756
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: not going to make you high. You know.

757
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: I had to educate her on it. She she researched it.

758
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I researched it. I started trying different CBDs,

759
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: and that was the only thing that was able to

760
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: help my TMJ.

761
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: And so TMJ, it's like when your jaw locks you guys,

762
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah.

763
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my jaw locks up. And so I started

764
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: with CBD line and then we started getting into like

765
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: the top of boles and rollers and Amnika and I

766
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: was like the ruler. Yeah, and I was like, booh,

767
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: you gotta try this. And she has been my guinea

768
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: pig and like my supporter since day one that I

769
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: started my CBD company, you know.

770
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted for her, because she was

771
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: tired of being she loves doing hair, but after so

772
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: many years you guys, being behind a chair. It was

773
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: just just like, I'm like, you need to start a business.

774
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: Do it.

775
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: This is something and the best thing is to have

776
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: a mission statement and a reason behind it, and you

777
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: have a story to tell because this is real. And

778
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: her nervous system was all out of whack. Her stress

779
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: was killing her so CBD was really the only thing

780
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: that helped calm everything down. So she started that and

781
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: then she's like, I was like, you need to start

782
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: a shampoo line. Honestly, like you need to start a

783
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: shampoo line. And she'say, okay. So she started doing it

784
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: and I started testing everything with her for six months,

785
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: and then we decided to become business partners. And now

786
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: we're barely gonna pay ourselves. You guys see it takes

787
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 1: yeah a while.

788
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: My god, that's so true.

789
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: Yes, because it's like I want people not to get yeah,

790
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: two years, not to get discouraged. Like, if you're a

791
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: small business starting out, be patient. It's a baby. You

792
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: got to just be patient. There are days where it's

793
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: going to be slower than others. But after two years, guys,

794
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: now we're finally gonna pay ourselves.

795
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting a paycheck. And I was so nervous

796
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: to bring it up. Balls off. Well, I'm like, you know,

797
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 2: let's go over our numbers. I was like, wait, boo,

798
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: can we get can we get paid?

799
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? You were like I was gonna bring it up.

800
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: I was like, well, actually I was too. So so

801
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: you guys be patient and just know that businesses take

802
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: a while and the first couple of years it's gonna

803
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: be tough. But here we are, and I'm very proud

804
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: of us, and hopefully, you know, we can inspire you

805
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: guys to just if you have an idea, if you

806
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: have something that you love doing and you're passionate about,

807
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: just try it, try it, just do it. Yeah, the

808
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: biggest risk is not taking a risk.

809
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: Right, and then nothing is too small, Like you know,

810
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: like I started with like like four products and I

811
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: think we're up to like thirteen products now, and you know,

812
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: every time we just get bigger and better and we're like, oh,

813
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: we can do this. Like yesterday, me and Lacey were

814
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: up to like we were on a good one like

815
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: till like midnight developed like thinking of all these different

816
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: things and the brain was just going and going. So

817
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: it's like the more it's I guess it's like working out,

818
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: but I don't work out. But like when they say

819
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: an endorphins start going, So I think once I start

820
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: to get into that work mode, I just cannot turn

821
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: it off. I'm like going and going and going and

822
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: and you know, so girls, women out there, just if

823
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: you have an idea, freaking run with it man, run.

824
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: With it and start like she said small. You can

825
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: have one or two products, give it your all. Once

826
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: you get money from that, then you can get another product,

827
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. So just be patient,

828
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: you guys, be patient. Okay. So I have a question

829
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: for you. Are there frozen con to having a business partner? Okay?

830
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: And don't worry, because I know I'm your business partner.

831
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: But just for people out there, I mean for me personally,

832
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: I feel that there's more prompt pros than con. So

833
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: only con for me personally is that you you know,

834
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: we're fifty fifty partner, so we have to split everything

835
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: fifty fifty, right. But other than that, it's less work

836
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: on me and I'm busy doing other things. So that's

837
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: why I love having a business partner, a smart business woman.

838
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: I only have business partners that are women, guys, because

839
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: that's just my shit. You know, that's my thing. But anyways,

840
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: what about you, I.

841
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: Honestly, how do I say this without sounding crazy? I

842
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: honestly would never do business with anybody else but you

843
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: because of the fact that you're so busy that you

844
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: let us run with it, if that makes sense. I

845
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: trust you, you know, and there's trust and I know,

846
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: like you have your own money and you're not like

847
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: I've had like known different people and different experiences in

848
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: the past. I had a friend that I did back

849
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: in like I don't want to say, like twenty years ago,

850
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: I was gonna bind, you know, when I got my

851
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: first worse and I went into partnership with my hair

852
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: salon and that lasted like probably like not even three weeks,

853
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: and she went psycho and I was like, oh my gosh,

854
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: never again would I ever do this. Like she came in,

855
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: she tried to change the whole salon around, change the music,

856
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: and she just like I was like, what do you mean,

857
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And after that, I was like,

858
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: I'll never have another partner again. Like with this now

859
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: with me and you, I feel like because we have

860
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: the friendship and like it's not our only source of income,

861
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: so it's like we're you know, we're able to dab

862
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: and you know still like I'm obviously still behind the

863
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: chair and you know, I have the CEVd line as well,

864
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: and you know, I like because I have still growing,

865
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: it's still growing, and I like to have my eggs

866
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: and like different baskets and stuff. Like that. But yeah,

867
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: I mean it's if you could do it on your own,

868
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: it's better. But if you need if you can find

869
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: a partner that is not relying, if that's not their

870
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: only source of income, then I think it would be okay,

871
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: it would be better because if you guys are both

872
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: starving or starting out and you guys both need money,

873
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: then it's going to be very very difficult, you know

874
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: what I mean. But us we did it like of course,

875
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: like we need money, but we have other sources of income,

876
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: so we're not our main jobs. We have our main job,

877
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: so this is kind of like a hobby slash like Okay,

878
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: let's grow as latinas as women and you know, let's

879
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: get you know, this going, but it's not our only

880
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: thing that we're relying to put food on.

881
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: The table for exactly so, and obviously our ultimate goal

882
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: would be to live off of this brand eventually, you know, correct.

883
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: So don't leave your job guys and say, Okay, I'm

884
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: gonna leave my job and go start this business. I

885
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: think you need to have your job still because that's

886
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: gonna bring in financial stability and do this as or

887
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: your business as a side hustle until it grows, and

888
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: again it takes one to three years even sometimes even five,

889
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: you guys, to really have a lucrative business, you have

890
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: to be patients. So don't go in there and be

891
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna leave my job my day. No, keep

892
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: your nine to five or keep whatever it is that

893
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: you're doing. That's basically what we're doing. It's like, I

894
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 1: have so much faith in this brand that I'm still

895
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: doing my singing, I'm still doing everything else, but I

896
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: still do this, and I just thank God that I

897
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: have the platform and the way to share it with

898
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: you guys. And it's something that I'm very passionate about.

899
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean hopefully that inspires you guys. And if you

900
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: guys ever have questions, maybe we should have another podcast

901
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: when I say you and I about you know, just business,

902
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: just like you know, business advice or something.

903
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would definitely be good to help

904
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: people with that because I always say there's enough business

905
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: to go around everywhere. Like I still buy other hair

906
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: products from other people, like you know what I mean,

907
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: It's not just because I have mine. I'm only gonna

908
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: buy my product. I'm not. I mean, ours is great,

909
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: it's the best in my eyes. But there's still other

910
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: people that are just as good. You know, it just depends.

911
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Everybody has different texture, hair, different color, ethnicity. So it's

912
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: not like you can't say, like, this is the best product,

913
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: it's the only one you need, Like, no, you need

914
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: multiple products to create a certain look.

915
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: That's what I love about you. You're not a hater.

916
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: You're not one to be like you know what I mean,

917
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm the same way, which I think that's why

918
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: it works. You guys, that's another thing in partnerships. You

919
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: have to be transparent, have to be honest. You have

920
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: to have these conversations from the very beginning. Look, we're

921
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: two come out. It is coming together, two friends, and

922
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let this business get between us. We

923
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: have to be honest and we have to learn to

924
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: separate friendship from business. And let's talk numbers and let's

925
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: show each other this is what's going on in the

926
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: bank account, because you don't want to ever have tarnish

927
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: your friendship for business or money.

928
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: Me honestly, that was my first thing, Like I was like,

929
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: there's no way I'm gonna ruin our friendship or any

930
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: friendship at that matter of mine. I have a very

931
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: small circle over money like it there's no value. Yeah,

932
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: it's priceless. It's priceless, is what I meant to say. Like,

933
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: there's no way I'm gonna like over five thousand dollars

934
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: or twenty dollars or ten thousand dollars. Am I going

935
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: to ruin a friendship' That's not it's.

936
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Not And that's what we're both on that same page

937
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: and we talked about it. That was the first thing

938
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: we talked about when we when we entered this partnership

939
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: and just for you know, to before we close out,

940
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: since you've been doing hair for so long, what is

941
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's think of a tip that you

942
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: can give people, okay, for extensions for instance, because I

943
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: think everyone is like into tapins or the k tips

944
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: or whatever. Everyone wants its extensions. What is your opinion

945
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: or a tip that you can give people for their

946
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: extensions to last longer. I already know what you're gonna say,

947
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: because you don't you clipping extensions? Exact clips? Yeah? Yes,

948
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: I tell them why.

949
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like clippings because of the fact that any

950
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: kind of extension you're gonna put into your hair, it's

951
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna do some minimal damage. It's it's it's

952
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: depending on the technician to the method. It doesn't matter

953
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: what anybody tells you, like, oh, these don't damage your hair.

954
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Anything foreign to your hair's gonna damage it. Whether it's

955
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: eyelash extensions, hair extensions, it's gonna do some kind of

956
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: pulling some weight on your hair. So me being that's

957
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: been a hair dresser for twenty eight years and I've

958
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: wore extensions all the time. I put them in my

959
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: client's hair all the time, but I let them know, like, hey,

960
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: you need to take breaks me now in between let

961
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: your hair like get healthy and then we can put

962
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: them back in, you know. So my suggestion is like,

963
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: if you already have fine hair, go with clippings. I

964
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: feel like that's just better on and off. But some people,

965
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, if you don't care that you're gonna lose

966
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of hair, then just by your Plantita

967
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: shampoo and it'll grow back.

968
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that and talking about that.

969
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: Share your social media booth, share your Instagram, and share

970
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: the website.

971
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: My instagram is hair by Vanessa Sanchez and our website

972
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 2: is vspurely Natural dot com.

973
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Exactly. And then also she has her hair salon you guys,

974
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: it's Prime Hair on Instagram right right, So there you go, Booth,

975
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on. I had a

976
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: great conversation with you, me too, and I love you

977
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: at them too. It's so nice to like talk to

978
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: you like we talk. We you know, we bullshit. We

979
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: we like sit down and we buzzed and we just

980
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, talk about things. But this is a different conversation.

981
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: So thank you for being on. I'm sure we all

982
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And you, guys, thank you for listening. I

983
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: hope that you enjoyed and you learned quite a bit

984
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: about my life, Vanessa's life, our partnership, and that we

985
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: were able to inspire and empower you to hopefully one

986
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: day start your business if that's what you want to do.

987
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: And you guys know that before we close out the episode,

988
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: I always have a quote for you. So this is

989
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: your quote for the week. Okay, it's not what we

990
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: have in life, but who we have in our life

991
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: that matters. Again, it's not what we have in life,

992
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: but who we have in our life that matters, you guys,

993
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: So that is your quote. Thank you so much. Boo,

994
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: I love you. I'll see you soon too. And yeah,

995
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: congratulations on the graduation girl or all look at you?

996
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, I love you, guys. Thank you so much. Besitos.

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999
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