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Speaker 1: It's hell and welcome to the naughty but nicer. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Rub Shooter, and it's Thursday, which means our

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Speaker 1: dear friend Mark Looper joins us. Hey, Loopy, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Loopy Luis?

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey Lubi. It's fall. It's cold in New York City.

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Speaker 1: I woke up this morning. I actually put I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: pull out all my sweaters, all my jumpers, and wear

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Speaker 1: some gloves and some hats. How are you, Marker? You

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Speaker 1: a fall guy or you were more of summer chap.

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Speaker 2: I love all the seasons on Europe, but I do.

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Speaker 2: The thing with follow is that you wake up it's cold,

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Speaker 2: then the little guy you're sweating, and then you're cold again.

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Speaker 1: Quite had to dress for it, but I will figure

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Speaker 1: it out. Let's jump into ashow. What time is it?

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Speaker 1: My friends? It is tea time story at the top

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Speaker 1: of the show. So Wendy Williams. Wendy Williams, who we've

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Speaker 1: not spoken to scene in months, even years, dare I say,

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Speaker 1: is now revealing that it is about time for Diddy

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Speaker 1: to face justice. So Before we get into what Wendy says,

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Speaker 1: let me give you some background here, some inside information.

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Speaker 1: At first, I did not believe her reporter from the

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Speaker 1: Daily Mail spoke to Wendy. I just couldn't imagine how

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Speaker 1: that was possible. Then I found out through my reporter

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Speaker 1: her conservator and people around Wendy are furious that they

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Speaker 1: They would argue for her own good, they don't want

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Speaker 1: her talking to the press. But a lot of reporters

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Speaker 1: do have celebrities phone numbers, and when something happens, you

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Speaker 1: through their reps. Let's be honest here. The correct protocol

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Speaker 1: Sherry Ricky Lake, may I even say a Hoder Let's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people have been saying to Wendy that

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Speaker 1: the first one to start raising a red flag about Diddy.

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Speaker 1: Some of the things she had heard. She was part

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Speaker 1: fired from Hot ninety seven radio station that was very

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Speaker 1: instrumental in Diddy's life, his professional career, his artists. Wendy

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Speaker 1: knew Diddy was a bad man. She knew it years ago.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people did. Wendy was the only one

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Speaker 1: that said, we think a couple of things, Mark, do

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Speaker 1: you think now Wendy has been vindicated? And another are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do think Wendy's been vindicated in a

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Speaker 2: We all knew the story, and we knew the sensitivities

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Speaker 2: It's nice to hear that Wendy, you know, feels as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that Wendy's aware of this. When

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Speaker 1: She has dementia. It's not fair to talk to somebody

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Speaker 1: Fascinating big picture conversation to have here. I would tread

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Speaker 1: which is Diddy, which is Whitney, which is the Real Housewives.

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Speaker 1: in the game. They still want to talk to me. Mark.

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Speaker 1: The press still thinks I'm relevant.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, liston, I think of anything A lot of

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. She doesn't like no one else does

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Speaker 1: Nobody believed Wendy. This was twenty years ago. She was

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Speaker 1: of people were uncomfortable with what Wendy has had to say.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people dismissed her as crazy. Oh I'm silly. No,

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Speaker 1: Wendy was right all along. Hay go vote on our

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Speaker 1: and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results.

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Speaker 1: Hey Loopy, what are you working on.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Elton John is joking about his health struggles,

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Speaker 2: and he says, there's not much of me left me too, Alton, okay? So,

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Speaker 2: Elton John has faced numerous health challenges over the years,

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Speaker 2: but his sense of humor and gratitude remain intact. While

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Speaker 2: John Never Too Late, he said, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: there's just not much of me left. He's been on

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Speaker 2: to share a list of the organs he no longer has.

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Speaker 2: But I'm still here.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Let's all be honest here. Elton has

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Speaker 1: to spend time with her kids. I'd argue Elton paved

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Speaker 1: the world, because he's still sold tickets. He might not

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Speaker 1: did twenty years ago. Neither does Madonna, Neither does anybody

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Speaker 2: in your life you probably think to yourself, well, what

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What am I doing all this for?

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