WEBVTT - CRUSHING series loss to the Braves as O's offense goes silent 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.600 Those fans in a season of frustration. There was more 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.280 on Sunday afternoon in downtown Baltimore. The Oils had the 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.680 bases loaded trying to win the game in the bottom 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.560 of the tenth against Atlanta. They couldn't do it, and 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.439 they lose to the Braves three to two in eleven. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.720 And we're with you for another edition of Birdland Territory, Steve, 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.440 tim and Brad and guys. Let's start with this stat 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.120 And I posted this on my substack about a week 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.320 or two ago going into Boston, and I went back 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.720 to June twenty second. I went back to that date 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:44.120 because the series that preceded that Dodger Stadium. Ironically enough, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.479 the Oriel scored a bunch of runs won that series. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.080 But in the three games series that have followed, the 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:56.400 offense keeps coming up short. One series, they've been really 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:01.560 good Kansas City. Here's the run down in order, going 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:06.240 back over nine series. Now at the Angels thirteen runs 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:12.320 against the Nats ten, White Sox eleven, at Cincy thirteen, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:20.399 Cubs twelve, Houston twelve, Boston thirteen, Atlanta eleven. They're barely 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.479 getting four runs a game. Here's the really damning part 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.920 for the offense, the pitcher er and that span is 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:34.360 three nineteen. They are pitching as well as anybody in 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.600 that date that we just I arbitrarily picked. They're going 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.680 back to when they kind of stopped scoring and they're 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:44.520 fourteen and thirteen, So seventeen and ten was really what 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:48.240 was needed and they'd be right there. So this was, 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.480 in a microcosm, this is what we've been seeing too 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.480 much of for about a month now. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.880 Yeah, it's unfortunate because it was kind of the part 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.320 of this team that you just didn't expect to struggle 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.200 at all. Figure they're going to score runs, and you know, 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.360 the starting pitching staff was kind of what's going to 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:04.840 happen there? 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.200 Where's the bullpen going to be? The defense? 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.440 All these other question marks that you weren't sure, But 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.880 the offense was the one thing that was supposed to 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.600 carry this team and really lead them to a lot 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.239 of wins. And it's just been a struggle with runners 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.600 in scoring position in particular with that stat there zero 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.880 for ten today, four for twenty seven in the series, 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.799 and it's kind of been that's a microcosm of the season. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.480 I feel like giving up two out runs and not 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.400 hitting with runners in scoring position have really been the 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.359 two biggest struggles for this team, and it's kind of 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.280 where they find themselves at today and this series, those 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.400 two things showed their glaring head there multiple times throughout. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.680 It really hard to believe, guys, because Bradham with you 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.720 one hundred percent when you're heading into spring training and 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.760 we're previewing this Oriole season and what's good about well, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.160 it starts with the lineup. You just expected that this 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.600 lineup was going to mash. I was high on the 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.079 start pitching and they've been even better. Bullpen was a 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.960 big question mark, but give the pen a ton of credit. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.320 Man's it's two months now, over two months, the starting 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.080 pitching and the bullpen, they're both top ten and ERA 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.400 going back to May twenty second. But for the offense 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.280 to be struggling as much as they are, it's really 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:22.200 tough to watch. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:23.920 And if you would have. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.160 Told us prior to the season that they would get 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.320 this caliber of pitching, you would think their record would 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.000 be a heck of a lot better than it is 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.600 right now. But it's not the case that the offense 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.200 is really scuffling, and guys, look, they missed sadly Ruchman. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.120 They missed Samuelbasio, Blaze, Alexander. Absolutely they do. But even 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.240 when those guys were in the lineup, you know, they 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.680 still weren't performing up to expectations that we had for 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.520 the offense heading into the season. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.680 Today, the Orioles went six for thirty nine at bat 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.640 one extra base hit, oh for ten with runners and 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:04.240 scoring position twelve left eleven runs in the series against 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.400 It a good Atlanta pitching team, we know that, and 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:11.360 it was glaring in this series, particularly the catcher injuries 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.640 being with Appasio and Adley. You put those two in 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.680 that lineup and the Oils maybe win this series, but 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.520 they're not there. What can they do? They're doing the 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.680 best they can, and right now it's really tough because 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.719 Chadwick Trump and Sam Huffer are combined one for twenty 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.240 four the last seven games with fourteen strikeouts. So it's 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.799 just it was so bad that they put the winning 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:38.200 run base to give a chance there. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.279 And I was gonna say, Steve, I was. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.640 We talked about it briefly right before we got on here, 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.640 but I can count on maybe three fingers the time 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.719 seeing that an intentional walk to load the bases with 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.440 the game on the line with a one on lead. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:52.960 I don't even know if I can say it three 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.680 times I saw it in my career, and to see 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.880 that today just really shows you that the Braves were 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.920 not scared. I mean they saw it as an how 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.040 there was no reason to throw any pitches near the 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.239 zone to the battle before. I think it was Holiday. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.680 I forget who was up before, but yeah, so it 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.680 was just I mean, that is It's tough. It's they're 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.760 they're playing multiple, multiple men down, but it's just not 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.719 an excuse in the MLB, unfortunately, because everybody's playing with 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.800 injuries and nobody's gonna feel sorry for you. 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.599 So it's it was just one of those things. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.520 I was unfortunate to be putting that spot there, but 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.360 they had their chance in the tenth inning. I mean, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.800 they have nobody else to blame but themselves there with 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.320 basically loaded, nobody out, tie game, and you just can't 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:30.159 get that run across. 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.719 It's just frustrating. I know it was a good play by. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.400 Olsen there to double up heat at first, but it's 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.359 just a frustrating loss and a frustrating weekend overall for 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.320 Orioles and I'm assuming the fans are just frustrated at 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.360 this point because they've seen it multiple times. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:43.560 Now. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.920 Yeah, it was tough, man, and it's so glaring because 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.880 we know that at the Rocherman and Samuel Bosio that's 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.720 the best catching tandem in baseball, and you lose them, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.640 and now you have guys in there that were at 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.359 Triple A not that long ago, and Brad, you're one 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:02.240 hundred percent right. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.239 The Braves they're like, all right. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.360 Bring us sam off, like we'll take our chances with 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.680 him and a basis loaded situation. And obviously it ended 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.440 up paying all for him, but you're also right, they 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.159 had every opportunity to win that game in the tenth 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:22.120 inning Man and unfortunately Gunner Henderson, who shockingly every time 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.040 Kevin brings it up, Kevin Brown on mass and it's 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.839 amazing he hasn't had a walk off, and then you 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.479 know what's been such a great start to his career, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.480 it's amazing he hasn't had a walkoff, and that that 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.720 was sort of a microcosm of Gunner season, right. He 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.680 hit the heck out of the ball and it was 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.000 just really unfortunate. It was a bang bang play, looked 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.400 like maybe Pete almost. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.679 Got back in there. Maybe he did. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.240 You know, it's an interesting review, but you gotta find 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.800 a way to push a run across when it's bases loaded, 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:53.560 nobody out, there's no excuse. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:59.520 How do you see that one played appearance today for Gunner? 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.280 Because I have fans jumping Gunner because of the season 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:08.839 he's had that saying you didn't come through there. I 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.200 think you hit the ball hard, you can't steer it. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.320 He didn't strike out into a double play. It was 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.400 a double play, but not a six four three. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.560 I think that play on its surface, like, that's just 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.600 bad Luckick, what are you going to do now? 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:24.840 Now? 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.480 I understand the fans frustration, and obviously Gunner has not 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.920 had a lot of those signature moments that he's had 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.600 plenty of throughout his career in terms of runners in 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:39.320 scoring position, you know, high leverage spots. I kind of 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.080 just chalk that up to, Hey, the Braves are a 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.440 heck of a team, man, and the defense that they 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.880 had on display throughout that series was unbelievable, and I 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.240 just I chalk that up as just a bad luck 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:54.160 play for Gunner. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.760 Exactly getting back to the catchers, Sam huffin were three 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.920 hundred and five career plate appearances, has a six eighty 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.920 eight mlbops. That's not bad, but he's four for thirty 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.040 three his time with the Ools this year that is bad. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.480 One twenty one and Trump in two hundred and ten 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.680 plate appearances is five eighty five. So just by those 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.520 two stats, I mean huff is the better hitter in 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.160 brief career. Neither is hitting right now for the Orioles, 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:28.080 and unfortunately it's at a time when others aren't. It's magnified. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.320 If yours were scoring six runs a game, Gunner was rolling, 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.680 Ward was rolling, they were all going. Then the catchers, 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.680 that wouldn't be as noticed. So it's tough on those guys. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.240 They're getting a chance. Yeah, they are doing some nice 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.640 things defensively. And I'll say, oh, by the way, oh 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.200 for ten with runs in scoring position today, was not 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.880 all of them? Not you guys bad at right? They 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.480 scored two runs at eleven innings? 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.439 Yeah, no, I agree one hundred percent. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.240 I think it's obviously because the play the game ended 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.200 with Huff at the plate. But those guys, they're NXT 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.640 when when you have those guys having come up because 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.800 of injuries. Those are not the guys you're expecting to 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.079 knock in the runs and to do all the damage. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.800 They're gonna play a good defensive catcher, and that's mainly 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.440 what they're there for. It's a call a good game, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.600 be a good defensive catcher, and if they get some 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.800 hits that that's icing on the cake. But at this point, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.040 if you're expecting them to be the ones to win 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.160 the game, your team is just not. It's and it's 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.600 no slight to those guys. Like I said last episode, 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.280 I played with Chadwick Trump and Triple A. He's a 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.400 very good player and he deserves to be a major leaguer. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.520 It's just those are the guys that you can't expect 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.240 to win you ball games. And it's just kind of 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:32.560 unfortunate that it came down to that. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:39.679 Today it is and it's a frustrating weekend for oriole fans. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:44.920 And a week ago we had them in by mode 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.560 two series later where they go one and two against Boston, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.520 one and two against Atlanta. I said to somebody last 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.920 night in the press box, I would not want to 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.439 be Elias and his staff right now trying to figure 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.400 out what's the best play here as it's seems to 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:01.720 change every ten minutes. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.679 It's gonna be a fascinating lead up. And I've been 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.680 saying that for weeks now, But geez, guys, you think 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.880 we're eight days away from the trade deadline and we 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.280 saw one move what was it yesterday or this morning 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.679 early getting trade from the Red Sox for mead from 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.080 the Nats. I think this is just gonna be a 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.160 flurry of activity in the last forty eight hours leading 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.240 up to the trade deadline because I think everyone's really 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.400 holding out. And heck, look at this upcoming series between 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.320 the Tigers and the Orioles, Like, whoever loses that series, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.720 how does that factor into the calculus there? 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:40.480 And to add even. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:46.079 More drama, Wednesday, guys, the projected starters Trevor Rodgers opposite 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.960 Trek scoobl it could be the final game for both 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.160 of those guys. It's gonna be a lot of fun 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.520 and craziness leading up to August third. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.720 It certainly is. The Birds lose two of three to Atlanta, 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.800 they ans it that series at fifty one and fifty five. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.800 Now onto Detroit for three games starting Monday night with 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.240 that Markue pitching matchup coming Wednesday, so that's going to 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.199 be an interesting series. Stick with us. We got a 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.160 lot more to do. This edition of Birdland Territory. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.800 This next week is sure to be exciting as we're 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.760 close to the trade deadline. Are you heading to Detroit 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.520 to see Theo's play, Well, if you are, I would 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.400 suggest going Wednesday because, as we just mentioned, Trevor Rodgers 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.199 and Trek Scooble they're both scheduled to pitch. Make sure 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.959 you buy your tickets to the game on seageek. 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We mentioned the stat and want to put 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.960 it up again to give some props to this pitching staff. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:13:00.240 Since that series we referenced, that's three nineteen TmrA, which 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:04.080 is crazy. So it feels like opportunities lost here, fourteen 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.800 and thirteen, two more wins sixteen eleven, yeah, really good, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.679 seventeen and ten, So eighteen and nine they had a 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.920 chance to really run this thing. Now it all was 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.800 not lost here. There's two months to play, and remember 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.520 how fast it change when they want a few. So 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.439 they just got to go to Detroit and get it going. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.640 You keep taking these gut punches, which I think is 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.080 taking it out of the fan base. Whether it will 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.640 eventually take it out of the team, We still have 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.160 several weeks to find that out. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:37.280 Yeah, and I think you're right. 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.000 See, you just got to keep playing the games and 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.040 kind of see where you're at come this next week. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.080 And it's just we've talked about this multiple times on 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.320 the show, but leading up to this trade deadline, it's 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.880 a it's an intricate puzzle with the Orioles. You have 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.560 so many pieces that are moving past this year. To me, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.280 it's like it's at the point where I feel like, 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.520 with Trevor Rodgers, you either sign them to an extension 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.880 somehow this week if if you can get that done, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.800 if not, you got to get the best deal for him, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.920 because he is pitching at one of the highest levels 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.520 with anybody across baseball right now. I think they said 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.280 it's been seven or it was either seven or nine 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.600 straight starts of two runs or less. Name another guy 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.079 in the big leagues who has been pitching like that. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.839 He's been unbelievable and he's gonna be one of. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:15.280 The top guys. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.000 And I think it's very interesting that he's facing school 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.200 ball on Wednesday, because I feel like both those guys 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.960 are gonna be on the move, and they're both highly 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.480 as of being lefty starters, they're both highly gonna be 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.040 solid after here. So it's an interesting week and I 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.280 just I keep it keeps coming back to the point 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.360 with me, with Trevor Rodgers is the biggest piece here. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.280 They either got to extending past the season or they 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.000 got to kind of move on. And I hate to 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.000 say that the former player, but I just feel like 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.840 with the organization, it's you're just stuck at that crossroad 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.960 right now that there's really no other option in my eye. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.800 I still just am so surprised and Steve we talked 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.680 about it Friday on the fan. I'm still so surprised 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.720 they have not reached out to Trevor Rodgers. It's very 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.880 puzzling to me. And you give Michael Isyas a ton 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:03.000 of credit. Locking up Kyle Bradish, Shane Bose, you got 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:06.000 two fifths into your lineup or excuse me, starting rotation? 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.840 Locked up long term? Roger seems like he wants to 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.080 be here, and look, I don't know what his asking 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.600 price is. I don't know if his agent would ask 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.760 for the moon, but it's certainly worth having a conversation 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.640 with him, and it's a really tough spot for this 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.720 team to be in because I would assume you're still 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.720 gonna have the qualifying offer because you're operating under the 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.960 CBA at least for a month until December first, and 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.640 then all signs point to them doing away with it. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.040 So at worst you could offer him the qualifying offer, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.800 but he would be someone that I would want to 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.440 consider locking up long term strongly, Brad. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.320 I want to get your opinion on this, having played 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.760 in the majors and work with agents. David Rubinstein Friday, 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:56.320 the pressor for Bradish and paraphrasing, said something like anybody 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.000 that's interested in staying here, we want to talk to you. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.600 Is it almost to the point now where despite the 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.800 public comments of Trevor, the whole world knows he wants 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.560 to stay, including the Orioles that his agent calls them 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.680 says here's here's what we would sign for. Let's talk 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.600 over the next twenty four hours and get this done. Yeah. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.520 I mean, I think it's they agents are a representation 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.720 of the player, and I think if as much as 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.160 it's a difficult process to go through because he's right 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.880 at the edge of reagency and you want to get 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.960 your full value and all this stuff. But at the 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:34.720 end of the day, if he really did want to 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.920 stay with the Orioles, I'm reaching out to my agent 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.480 and be like, Hey, let's find out what the best 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.160 offer we can get for them, because I really want 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.080 to stay here. And the fact that he was on 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.720 air on Masson in the Boston series saying I want 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.560 to be here and I want to sign like I 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.640 want to be here long term, that speaks everything you 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.080 need to know. Because the fact that he said it 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.320 on air in the middle of a game, to me, 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.000 is like you never hear a player say that, especially 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.760 somebody who's as close to free agency, and somebody who's 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.200 pitch as well as he has been pitching, where his 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.600 value is just going off with every single start that 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.480 he makes. It's just I just don't seem it doesn't 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.000 seem like it should be that far fetched to get 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.320 a deal done, and I don't think it would take 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.040 that long, because I think both. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.080 Sides are clearly interesting. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.080 Like you're saying to me, it's kind of odd at 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.320 this point that there hasn't been at least some kind 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:20.160 of talks. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.120 Because there's there's no downside because look, Michael Eiath could 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.359 approach his agent and theoretically, and I'm just making this up, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.960 theoretically his agent could be asking for XYZ, asking for. 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.399 The moon, and it's just so ridiculous that it doesn't 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.760 make any sense for the Orioles to do so. But Okay, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.360 no harm, no foul. You're having the conversation. You're you're 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:48.400 figuring out what you know he's searching for. And I understand, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.719 you know, heading into this past offseason that it was 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.600 a difficult negotiation, right because all right, he was on 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.280 an insane eighteen start stretch last year. 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:00.600 Are you paying paying him off? 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:00.760 That? 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.119 Are you paying him off when he struggled when you 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:04.360 initially traded for him? 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.160 Who is the real Trevor Rodgers? 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:07.960 Then he got off to a great start this year, 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.920 then really struggled in the month. Man, he's been fantastic 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.600 over an eight start stretch. Now he's one of the 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.600 best starting pitchers in baseball in that stretch. So I 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.280 understand it's it's a little tricky, but you know, I 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.240 have the conversation, try to figure out, you know, what's 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:26.439 fair for both sides. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:31.399 Yeah, I had a fan ask me this question. They said, Steve, 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.879 are you convinced there have been no talks or do 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.840 you think it's Trevor's way of saying there have been 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.720 no talks going anywhere? And I said, well, he's told 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.680 multiple outlets, including myself, and I've asked him a couple 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.800 of times this year there haven't been any talks. Now, 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.359 the other side of that could be at an appropriate 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.679 time media ask Elias, have you even reached out this 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.879 year to Trevor and his folks? Is anything happened? Did 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.080 you get anywhere? Did you try? You asked that question 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.920 and hear his answered That's what I'd like to hear 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.240 on the other side of it. Friday would not have 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.679 been the appropriate time to do that. It's a celebration 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.679 of Bradish. The whole team's sitting there, including Trevor. That 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.040 probably was not the time to try to back Mike 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.800 into a corner or get and answer that specific question. 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.160 But I would think at some point before or after 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.680 the deadline, he's going to do more media and somebody's 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.440 got to bring that question up. We got to hear 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:27.360 his side of this. 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.359 Yeah, definitely, And I think you're I think it's more 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.720 and I think it even in the press conference, he 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:34.280 had mentioned that a lot of players don't like the 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:38.040 distraction in season. So maybe it's them not wanting to 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.359 reach out to Rogers representation because they don't want it 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.800 to be distraction, or it's just I feel like it's 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.560 a lot of times it's it's you don't know, so 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.920 you don't want to like push anything and you don't 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.040 want to mess up anything along the way, and it 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.840 just gets I think there's like no communication at all 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.120 from both sides, so nobody knows what's what's actually going on. 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.040 Well, what's interesting, Brad. 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.959 I had Rogers on my show a week before opening day, 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.879 and I remember he was asked at the beginning of 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.439 spring training were there any talks? He said no, So 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.680