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Speaker 1: you all. Culture. Well, there's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: lilt in that. I have to say. There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of changes in my life lately, and I felt
Speaker 1: like changing up the dingol. Okay, here we go because
Speaker 1: I just before we record, I had asked you you
Speaker 1: you're just coming in from work. It's we're recording in
Speaker 1: the evening on a Sunday evening. You're working the weekend shift.
Speaker 1: You're in your Brooklyn crab, So what's going on? And
Speaker 1: you said, well, I'll tell you why. And I sense
Speaker 1: this chippered nous, this energetic spirit. What is it? What's
Speaker 1: going on? You all believe this? But oh my god,
Speaker 1: this bitch has become a kombucha. I have begun to
Speaker 1: drink kombucha each day. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: And Last coats this listeners know they've been on a
Speaker 1: health journey with me and and us all and us all,
Speaker 1: and I have to impart this wisdom onto you. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not let me tell you something. Here we go.
Speaker 1: I have famously had bronchitus and then the flu and
Speaker 1: then for over a month, you guys, and I truly
Speaker 1: think of you all the listeners, as close friends of mine,
Speaker 1: so I will share this with you. I have not
Speaker 1: been quote unquote regular in a long time. But then
Speaker 1: the kombu And then I was speaking with one more
Speaker 1: fright pass and I said, you know, I was on
Speaker 1: a series of antibiotics this summer, and and she goes, well,
Speaker 1: there you go. They fucked you up. So I was
Speaker 1: truly wrecked. And she said you need probiotics. She said
Speaker 1: you need to drink kombucha or go to the store
Speaker 1: and buy the pills. But she's like, but they're expensive.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well maybe I'll try kambuja. And
Speaker 1: I literally he asked what is it? Because I thought
Speaker 1: it was some sort of like coffee offshoot, But little
Speaker 1: did I know it is raw, organic, literal, live bacteria
Speaker 1: and the glass bottle it's like vinegar water. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you think, wow, that's disgusted yog water, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: live for it, okay, And I'm not totally on I
Speaker 1: haven't been totally on board with kombucha because have you
Speaker 1: tried it? Yeah, of course, just you know I've I
Speaker 1: was an early adopter. I got it on the ground
Speaker 1: floor with kombucha. I'm just kidding it. What a disgusting
Speaker 1: sentence to say. But um, I just never I got
Speaker 1: it on the ground floor with I never and never
Speaker 1: did it for me. But if you're saying because because
Speaker 1: you know what I've been complaining to you, I've been
Speaker 1: taking poisonous ship water, no water. But also like I'll
Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night and usually
Speaker 1: you know when you when you do a little diary,
Speaker 1: like it's like after that you feel great, you feel
Speaker 1: but not not in these times, like I've had to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, like like rule of three. I've
Speaker 1: been going to the bathroom three times within the span
Speaker 1: of thirty in it's because because like clockwork three, because
Speaker 1: my bowels are just wrecked. And I think it's because
Speaker 1: of the antibiotics. You know, it's rule number ninety two
Speaker 1: of culture comedy and the rule of three, like clockwork,
Speaker 1: clockwork three, that's okay, well great, Well, I have to
Speaker 1: tell you there's so many different flavors, and I recommend
Speaker 1: two brands, Synergy and Health Aid. Synergy is like the
Speaker 1: big one. Synergy is like the famous one. And so
Speaker 1: I actually just had a kind of not great one,
Speaker 1: which is a strawberry flavor. I've tried the strawberry and
Speaker 1: was not on board with it because they have the
Speaker 1: little seeds in their ginger aid. Oh fine, that's the
Speaker 1: one you need, Dinger beer flavor. And our guest is
Speaker 1: not in an agreement. Our guest is not in an agreement,
Speaker 1: and I'm not an agreement because can I tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited and I'm so thrilled because I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know what, boy, I feel like we've had a
Speaker 1: lot of great guests, but it's time to get a
Speaker 1: good old fashioned queer in here. I said it's time
Speaker 1: to get a good old fashioned queer. And we were
Speaker 1: discussing who's gonna be on the show, and you even said,
Speaker 1: I even said, let's get a gay. Let's get it's time.
Speaker 1: Time is now, Time is now. Let's let's list the credits, bitch, alright.
Speaker 1: The credits are as follows his web series Unfunny Gay Guys.
Speaker 1: You can find that on his YouTube channel Bitch. Also
Speaker 1: on his YouTube channel Untucked the Musical, which is a
Speaker 1: collaboration between he and friend of the show, Henry Cooper Sky.
Speaker 1: And this is where they take amazing little well known
Speaker 1: segments from Untalked, from Repels, drag Race and musicalize them
Speaker 1: in fabulous, fantastic way. And an upcoming new project. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited for this. Yes, it's called Slumber Party. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a new talk show featuring Tim. Also
Speaker 1: on Tim's YouTube channel. And in order to more accurately
Speaker 1: find the YouTube channel, you should know the bitches name.
Speaker 1: Here we go and his name is Tim Murray. And
Speaker 1: what a day, What a day it has been day.
Speaker 1: I'm following a conversation about feces. Yes, covert, because it's
Speaker 1: a show. Because it's a show, you gotta get real
Speaker 1: about the feast. Unfortunately, as gays we have to confront
Speaker 1: fecal matter. Here's something I'm I'm recently starting to douche
Speaker 1: and I bought this really chic looking bulb from Amazon,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't work. The suction is bad and you
Speaker 1: really have to try these out. You It's a really
Speaker 1: hit or miss thing with buying these douche bulbs to
Speaker 1: wash to clean your whole out, because never I've done
Speaker 1: I've done like the what they're called the fleet enemas
Speaker 1: that they I've done those, But apparently those are bad
Speaker 1: for you if you do them a lot, because it
Speaker 1: just like really eats it's real up in there, and
Speaker 1: it really starts to like tenderize your tenderize we done
Speaker 1: absolutely well, done well or rare, but not tender something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, I'm sorry, I'm I
Speaker 1: thought i'd bring that into the conversation just because it's
Speaker 1: part of the peace that you do honestly listen, and
Speaker 1: I feel like we can open up to you. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel I can open up to you. Can I
Speaker 1: just prempos to start this off by saying, do you
Speaker 1: remember the best day of your lives? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: it was when we were in Disney World? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes this Mine was when I saw a Dina Manzel
Speaker 1: and Wicked when I was eight. But I feel like
Speaker 1: this is the second best day of o is truly
Speaker 1: for us. Oh my god, you know what, I really
Speaker 1: I just was having a rough day at work this
Speaker 1: week and just rough day at work this week, mood
Speaker 1: boost just thought, let me put on the Wicked ost
Speaker 1: no original soundtrack, yes, no Broadway cast recording O B
Speaker 1: c R. And god, what an instant. I mean, it
Speaker 1: holds up one of the things that holds up when
Speaker 1: you look. That's where I met you, guys. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Henry's um Wicked mashed up with Pat Regan as basically
Speaker 1: you had never seen the movie, and he famously did
Speaker 1: not totally disregarded her performance completely. He would just come
Speaker 1: out and go, do you look ugly in the half
Speaker 1: and then walk up stage and you were fiarro slash
Speaker 1: Adrian Grenier. No no, no, no, no, no Fiarro slash.
Speaker 1: And that was amazing. I remember saying to Henry, who's
Speaker 1: this bit? That was the first time I met Tinto
Speaker 1: was like, he's very funny. That was transformative for me
Speaker 1: because I was like a musical theater douche. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like I didn't know what I was, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like that type of musical theater boy. That
Speaker 1: just is kind of like I don't know where I'm
Speaker 1: going or what I'm doing, but I need like outward
Speaker 1: validation from other people all the time. Like I feel
Speaker 1: like I am doing my or whatever. And then we
Speaker 1: did that show and I was like, wait, there are
Speaker 1: like gay people that do comedy that are makeing their
Speaker 1: own ship and are making their own stuff. And it was,
Speaker 1: honestly like a huge shift in my hole. Was that
Speaker 1: when you started making No, that wasn't when you started
Speaker 1: making videos. But honestly, I had been making videos before that,
Speaker 1: but they were only ever theater related content and very rarely,
Speaker 1: and I would rarely post about them. And then doing
Speaker 1: meeting you guys and Henry and that your whole crew
Speaker 1: of like awesome New York queer comedians, was like, oh,
Speaker 1: these people are putting themselves out there all of the time.
Speaker 1: Now you're like, I mean, now you're the one who's
Speaker 1: just like just churning all the qualities. The content keeps flowing,
Speaker 1: the content keeps I have had such a shift in
Speaker 1: the last like especially in the last year, but in
Speaker 1: the last like six months, I was like very very depressed.
Speaker 1: Like when I were talking about this a little bit
Speaker 1: before that, I was living in an apartment with no
Speaker 1: windows and it was just dark. It was dark times.
Speaker 1: And I have had this just complete shift in my
Speaker 1: brain where I now am I was telling my therapists
Speaker 1: like a year ago, like I don't know. I used
Speaker 1: to be like a happy person and now I I
Speaker 1: used to walk down the street and like hear music
Speaker 1: in my head, and uh, now I don't. And that's
Speaker 1: like very scary for me. And with the more I've
Speaker 1: talked about and the more I realized, it's just like
Speaker 1: all about creating stuff and like having fun and throwing
Speaker 1: it against the wall and like not being afraid when
Speaker 1: improv helped with that a lot too, to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: sometimes you get a fucking fall on your face that
Speaker 1: I just love that that shift that it's you know
Speaker 1: that it's just opened all this stuff up for you.
Speaker 1: That's that's so cool. The joy is in creating the work,
Speaker 1: and it's about the work. It's about the work, it's
Speaker 1: about the process. You also very much enjoy the process sometimes,
Speaker 1: like because I he is over the house all the
Speaker 1: time with Henry and they're creating their their goofs, and
Speaker 1: you guys are always laughing and we've witnessed him direct
Speaker 1: us and yes, and he's very much just very involved
Speaker 1: in the process, very very collaborative, so fun to work with,
Speaker 1: so great, and you guys did a little shoot today.
Speaker 1: We did a little you look at look it up
Speaker 1: at Team Murray zero six. It's gonna be on the YouTube.
Speaker 1: Come on, zero six baby. What can you tell us
Speaker 1: about this project that today? Um, it's like basically the
Speaker 1: big thing that we're trying to do is one thing
Speaker 1: I've realized with one of my other videos is called, um,
Speaker 1: we get it you know each other? Yeah, Okay, I
Speaker 1: love that. You need to watch that just like everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's about two people that are like scream when they
Speaker 1: know each other. But I've been making so much fucking
Speaker 1: ship like and it feels great. But it's like sometimes
Speaker 1: I'll make something that I'm like, this is last year
Speaker 1: I made, um, Hillary Clinton, She's all that, and just
Speaker 1: map the movie She's all that, Hillary Clinton, and no
Speaker 1: one watched it. It got like no views. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: That's so true. But what I realized with this video
Speaker 1: was like all I had to do was label the
Speaker 1: top of the video we get it, you know each other,
Speaker 1: and suddenly it blew up. We're getting so dumb is
Speaker 1: a mean word to say, but we're getting like we
Speaker 1: need things like like so clearly, oh no, that's on
Speaker 1: the internet. So what Henry and I were trying to
Speaker 1: do with this is to clearly label and bone. So
Speaker 1: no guys master class performances from coin Sandy's. These are
Speaker 1: just people that that is what was the video. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it's Henry Kaperski sitting at a piano at an
Speaker 1: audition in an audition room and just being the accompanist.
Speaker 1: And it's just and maybe Tim you can describe this better,
Speaker 1: but it's just different people coming in, being different versions
Speaker 1: of like different types of nightmares and monsters and yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: musical theater. Monsters, musical theater to come in in certain
Speaker 1: ways and expect certain things of the accompanist and companist
Speaker 1: like garbage for the most part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't wait. So I tried a couple of things where
Speaker 1: I like was flirting hard with Henry because I've witnessed
Speaker 1: that myself just in front of mine own eyes, and
Speaker 1: I admitted to you that I've done it before. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean we've all done it, but like with Henry specifically,
Speaker 1: it's this real funny thing. Yeah, I was just like
Speaker 1: pulling from my experience and just like really making Henry
Speaker 1: feel unofortable. And he was method, honey, he was giving
Speaker 1: you Strasburg Stanislavski. I don't know, but he was like
Speaker 1: really acting, and I was like, this is going to
Speaker 1: read really well. My favorite thing is when Henry as
Speaker 1: he's really good at it. See sometimes the other day
Speaker 1: he did an impression of you know, he didn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't someone that, oh I forget, but he came home
Speaker 1: from an interaction and he did an impression of the person.
Speaker 1: And and then I sometimes tease him like, oh, the actor,
Speaker 1: but and he gets very bashful. But it was very good.
Speaker 1: Of course it was. Yeah, he's just been inundated with
Speaker 1: like people like throwing and projecting like their own like
Speaker 1: ship at him for all this time, and he's watching
Speaker 1: so much is like such, which again the culture is
Speaker 1: his podcast. Big thing for me like hearing other people's
Speaker 1: things that they watched as kids. That like, that's why
Speaker 1: when I heard Pat Regan talk about this ship that
Speaker 1: he watched growing up, I was like, that's why you
Speaker 1: are as good as you are. Yeah. Yeah, And you
Speaker 1: guys talking about Desperate Housewife so much would be like
Speaker 1: moment a wait, hold on, so because you've just brought
Speaker 1: it up organic, let's talk about this. So Tim, what
Speaker 1: is the culture, and we asked this of all our guests.
Speaker 1: This is the question we asked called this is the
Speaker 1: question I saw the guests. What is the culture that
Speaker 1: brought you into culture? It was the culture that made
Speaker 1: you decide culture at large as a concept was for
Speaker 1: you is for me. I've been thinking about this a lot,
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm number one fan of the pod
Speaker 1: um at me in the comments. You're not a bigger
Speaker 1: fan of making him at me. And I have a
Speaker 1: really bizarre memory, like I can remember where I was
Speaker 1: sitting and what was happening. I remember I was sitting
Speaker 1: We're on vacation in Miami, and We're sitting in a
Speaker 1: hotel room and I am watching the TV and the
Speaker 1: news story of Tanya Harding HiT's Nancy Kerrigan's leg um
Speaker 1: comes across this green and I literally feel like I
Speaker 1: could my whole body just like when Hit. And I
Speaker 1: was like, this is fascinating. And I looked at the
Speaker 1: screen and it's just like the most specific and you
Speaker 1: guys talked about this on the podcast, but we have.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking to myself, I have we talked
Speaker 1: about this. I'm almost positive that we have. And that's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about you've talked about um so specifically
Speaker 1: your friends, your sister's hot friends, and how like what
Speaker 1: that looked like to you and what that meant to you.
Speaker 1: And seeing these like women, these like fierce figure skater
Speaker 1: women with their very specific hair dues and they're like
Speaker 1: specific costumes. And but what what I now realized attracted
Speaker 1: me to this story so much was storytelling. Was like
Speaker 1: it was such so dramatically laid out for the world.
Speaker 1: It was so it was like Tanya Harding was and
Speaker 1: I fell in love with Tanya Harding, and I was like,
Speaker 1: she had these blonde things that just came down like this.
Speaker 1: And in the news story I watched, they were like,
Speaker 1: you know, poor white track up against rich Nancy Christine cold,
Speaker 1: Nancy Karragan, and that was the narrative being spun for me.
Speaker 1: So I remember going home and sitting in my bed
Speaker 1: and clamping the hands so tight and saying, dear God,
Speaker 1: I know Danya Harding didn't do it. Please please let
Speaker 1: me understand that she is a good person and she
Speaker 1: would not have done this. That is so interesting because
Speaker 1: you just were empathizing so much with this person who
Speaker 1: was being villainized in the media. Yes, I was, so
Speaker 1: I'm so empathetic. But then y'all wanted a twist. She did.
Speaker 1: She it was so bad at the Olympics, so fucking
Speaker 1: bad that I turned because Karragan poster in my room
Speaker 1: and so not even not even you turn your back, Antania,
Speaker 1: you put up a Nancy poster. I turned one eight
Speaker 1: and I joined the other side. I joined the other side. Filth.
Speaker 1: So wait, I think I do think that maybe it's
Speaker 1: not as fascinating. Well, so it's up there for me
Speaker 1: with the o J thing with you, the Tanya Harding
Speaker 1: and Nanci Karagan thing, and you know what else, your
Speaker 1: guys are a little younger than me. But I feel
Speaker 1: like the OJ thing was the second biggest news story
Speaker 1: of our of my lifetime, maybe the first for you.
Speaker 1: M it's up there. I mean, I will be completely
Speaker 1: honest and say that because I was in Canada as
Speaker 1: it was happening. Canadians just like didn't really care about it,
Speaker 1: and so I didn't really like like the card shaped,
Speaker 1: like like the whole Bronco chase thing like that was
Speaker 1: all something that I like learned like much later on
Speaker 1: about and like so many of the details, like about
Speaker 1: like Marsha Clark and all these people like I didn't
Speaker 1: really learn about until like last year. Last year, like
Speaker 1: the documentaries and UM American Crime Story. Like I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I really missed out on this because for yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean that's just I mean, that's interesting. I
Speaker 1: do remember it dominating. But I tell you what also
Speaker 1: dominated and continue to dominate for years, And the two
Speaker 1: stories kind of jumbled in together. For me, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just like I guess tabloid culture. It was what
Speaker 1: my five six year old self like understood tabloid culture
Speaker 1: to be was John Benett. And it felt like Jean
Speaker 1: Benett was never not on the cover of one of
Speaker 1: those man you go to the supermarket. You still seriously
Speaker 1: like it didn't go away for years and it's still
Speaker 1: the fact that it still hasn't is crazy. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: such a strange culture, Like why are we so obsessed?
Speaker 1: And also two things. One didn't realize that O J
Speaker 1: was an athlete slash star slash superstar until much later.
Speaker 1: Didn't understand how famous he was until I was watching
Speaker 1: Crime Story and I texted my dad and I'm like,
Speaker 1: how famous was he? He was? Like he was the
Speaker 1: most famous athlete of his generation. Two didn't understand that
Speaker 1: John Bennett Ramsey was a little beauty queen. I thought
Speaker 1: that was just the way she looked and thought, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that pretty girl died. And I didn't understand
Speaker 1: why it was such a huge story. But then I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that either. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: way later and then you understand, like what a funked
Speaker 1: up bizarre story it is and why it's so big. Um,
Speaker 1: But yeah, just that that was what normal little girls
Speaker 1: like looked like. I think, talk about the patriarchy. Oh dark,
Speaker 1: it's a dark world. It certainly is. In second grade,
Speaker 1: the teacher asked, took a poll all of us and said,
Speaker 1: how many of you think did it? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: one little boy, Ricky has raised his hand and said,
Speaker 1: I don't think he could have done it because he's
Speaker 1: a very good football player. And we accepted that. I mean,
Speaker 1: and this Catholic school as like, oh yeah, except for me,
Speaker 1: who was like but also he was like taking a
Speaker 1: sample of a roomful of second graders like that, it's shocking.
Speaker 1: But talking about this last week with Ruby, like, um,
Speaker 1: the positions that these teachers put kids in and like
Speaker 1: these questions that they make them answer, Like talking to
Speaker 1: a bunch of fifteen year olds about abortion rights. It's
Speaker 1: just so freaking crazy. Overwroughten fraud whatever you had, It's like,
Speaker 1: why would you do that? It's over fraud, over fraudule
Speaker 1: number seventy five, over fraud. Um okay um. I would
Speaker 1: I would position to say, I would pause it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sound smart to position I would say
Speaker 1: that Princess Diana was like, yes, that was like the
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest stories. I was
Speaker 1: going to say, we were a little bit of and
Speaker 1: she was in the international figure total and so therefore
Speaker 1: Prince Princess Dina dying was before John Benet, though I
Speaker 1: don't think that that's true. I think John Bennet was.
Speaker 1: Let's somebody was like seven. I think she was. I
Speaker 1: think that was earlier. I think I think the chronology
Speaker 1: of it was. I'm googling it, Tanya, Oh, j it
Speaker 1: was definitely first Jean Benet six, okay, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: and Theniversity of Kania was was very recently. So right, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're right, I'm so sorry. Yes, Jemine, we heard
Speaker 1: about Canada. Jean knew we heard about in Canada and
Speaker 1: it was like two years before I was going to
Speaker 1: move to Colorado. And I was like, people, and I've
Speaker 1: said this, yes you have on the podcast, But when
Speaker 1: when my parents were telling me that we were moving
Speaker 1: to Colorado, I was like, people, that's where Columbine happened.
Speaker 1: Oh that's where Jeanine died. Yeah, people fucking murder each
Speaker 1: other there and Columbine. Columbine was a big thing in Canada.
Speaker 1: Because I was thinking about this when um, the three
Speaker 1: of us are all reading Hiller's book, Yeah, I have,
Speaker 1: it's literally out on the table right now. When the
Speaker 1: gun control chapter, I was crying specifically a lot because
Speaker 1: I really feel like that would have been her legacy
Speaker 1: had she been elected. And I thought so, I couldn't
Speaker 1: stop thinking about the second grade version of myself and
Speaker 1: where I think like a lot of my paranoia comes
Speaker 1: from is that of being like, oh, anyone could just
Speaker 1: walk into this school and shoot us, and like that
Speaker 1: like shaped so much and like then was it in
Speaker 1: your guys towns? Was that like did it become like
Speaker 1: sort of part of like this vocal culture. I will
Speaker 1: say it affected my it hapn't. When I was in
Speaker 1: third grade, it affected my teacher so deeply that she
Speaker 1: wouldn't set talking about it for days. And I she
Speaker 1: actually made us have I said this on the podcast.
Speaker 1: She made uself stand in a circle and listen to
Speaker 1: hands by Jewels. We stood holding hands and sang hands
Speaker 1: my hands are small, and I know and I've definitely
Speaker 1: said this before. But then like days later, we all
Speaker 1: got in trouble at lunch, and my lunch monitor like
Speaker 1: pulled my teacher out and said, um, the kids are
Speaker 1: peer pressuring each other to be mean to someone or
Speaker 1: peer pressuring someone to do something they didn't want to do.
Speaker 1: And the teacher came in and was like, I'm so
Speaker 1: mortified that I had to listen to that, and not
Speaker 1: for nothing, but this is not dissimilar to what happened
Speaker 1: over in the the peer pressure and the bullying and
Speaker 1: stuff like, well, she's kind of right, yes, but traumatizing
Speaker 1: the telegram And then I realized, even like in third grade,
Speaker 1: I kind of said to myself, like, Okay, don't absorb
Speaker 1: that that's her issue, Like that is not that is
Speaker 1: what she meant to say, was that like bullying is wrong,
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't make people feel isolated. But she doesn't
Speaker 1: need to like make you guys feel like you're like
Speaker 1: we're the next column. I mean, who knows, because she
Speaker 1: was connecting those dots like in a correct way. But
Speaker 1: of course the way she was communing and kidding it
Speaker 1: to you guys as third graders was like awful and wrong.
Speaker 1: I think she was traumatized rightfully. So, speaking of which,
Speaker 1: like surreal experience having my first story Pirate shown in
Speaker 1: elementary school UM in Long Island the day Sandy Hook happened.
Speaker 1: That was the day it happened. It happened, and like
Speaker 1: we were like we were setting up and it was
Speaker 1: my first show and I was perferring for all these kids.
Speaker 1: I was a Katie Scotland and Branson Reyes and I
Speaker 1: get this news notification on my phone about Sandy Hook,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh I And I didn't want
Speaker 1: to tell them about this until after the show because
Speaker 1: but I saw this and I went out and I
Speaker 1: looked at all these fucking kids and I, this is insane.
Speaker 1: And then all of us got into the car drove
Speaker 1: back to the city and we were just silent, and
Speaker 1: we were just like how what like how did this happen?
Speaker 1: It was wild, wild, wild, wild, and we'll never forget.
Speaker 1: I joined it after that too, and I remember, you
Speaker 1: got it's weird you go into elementary schools now and
Speaker 1: you and you look at the kids and you think,
Speaker 1: you just get sick to your stomach. Are we Are
Speaker 1: we your teacher? Now? Are we your great teacher? Now?
Speaker 1: People did this to me? But it's crazy, It's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: And then and it's crazy that it's not going to
Speaker 1: change now, especially after hearing her chapter in the book,
Speaker 1: I was just like, what, this is insane to me
Speaker 1: that we are not And after um Orlando. Then I
Speaker 1: was at my ten year high school graduation the night
Speaker 1: that happened, and I took all of all these boys
Speaker 1: that I thought would hate me for being gay. We
Speaker 1: all were out at a bar together and I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, this is like so lame, but I'm having
Speaker 1: such a good time with you straight guys. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the local gay bar in town. And they all
Speaker 1: came with me and we had the best fucking time.
Speaker 1: And it was just like, you know, defeating these like
Speaker 1: inner demons, like thinking these were my bullies. And then
Speaker 1: to wake up the next morning and be like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: this just happened in the gay bar somewhere else in
Speaker 1: the country, and like from like trying to bridge that
Speaker 1: gap of like making people feel comfortable and being like
Speaker 1: even as an ally you could be I mean oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean a, I mean that that is just nice
Speaker 1: isolated event it was that is you nice. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I've said this before, and when he
Speaker 1: was on the podcast, I definitely didn't mention this. But
Speaker 1: the night before, uh, the Pulse shooting, Cold School and
Speaker 1: I were doing a show at Union Hall and then
Speaker 1: we got went walked up to Artichoke Pizza and Park
Speaker 1: Slope to get a bite and then we're sitting there
Speaker 1: and uh, this crazy person like barrels in and is
Speaker 1: like screaming and screaming and screaming, and then he goes
Speaker 1: to Cole, Cole and me and starts screaming faggot at us,
Speaker 1: and then he like lunges at Coal at one point,
Speaker 1: and Cole was just like really shaken by and we
Speaker 1: were both shaken by it. And then like and then
Speaker 1: it was fine. After that, we checked in with each other,
Speaker 1: we went our separate ways, which I checked in again
Speaker 1: with him that like when he got home that night,
Speaker 1: and then the next day fucking pulse happened, and then
Speaker 1: checking with each other again, we were just like, it's
Speaker 1: are we both like we're both thinking the same thing
Speaker 1: right like this It's it's like it's just so fresh
Speaker 1: still happening. Um yeah, like what a weird. It's so
Speaker 1: sucked up to think about how all these atrocities can happen.
Speaker 1: And she talks about the mothers in those chapters of
Speaker 1: like you know, the murdered black youth and everything like,
Speaker 1: and just to fucking realize that he still was elected,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, with nothing, and he with
Speaker 1: nothing on that topic and only like only all the
Speaker 1: wrong thing, all the wrong things that everyone should have
Speaker 1: a gun speaking of, like you teaching right, So the
Speaker 1: Orlando happened, and then a week later I was teaching
Speaker 1: like kids, like young kids in a classroom, and I
Speaker 1: have this paranoia thing where I'm always thinking that's something
Speaker 1: bad is going to happen. And I am sitting in
Speaker 1: the class and I was just like, what would I
Speaker 1: do if someone came in here right now? There's forty children?
Speaker 1: What would I do if I had a gun on me?
Speaker 1: That wouldn't help, but would I do like that it's
Speaker 1: not the answer, that it's not flat out not the answer,
Speaker 1: and the fact that people think it could be the
Speaker 1: answer shows people Room warmly believes it's in a truly
Speaker 1: wild way. It's insanity. But the thing that's bothering me
Speaker 1: the most about the fucking people's like fear over this
Speaker 1: Hillary book and I'm seeing this a lot on my
Speaker 1: Facebook feeds is it's like always the pull quote is,
Speaker 1: oh look, wow, Hillary really stuck in the past, still
Speaker 1: blaming Bernie. Fucking read the book. It is not about Bernie.
Speaker 1: This book is not about Bernie. The library is open.
Speaker 1: Check out a card and check out the book. I
Speaker 1: don't have time for your fucking bullshit. She she spends.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm halfway through it, but from what I've read,
Speaker 1: there's lines that are about Bernie and about you know,
Speaker 1: the rightful ways and what she contributed to her loss.
Speaker 1: Not that he wasn't entitled to say whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: he wants to say and campaign however he wants, but
Speaker 1: she's also entitled to write this book. You don't want
Speaker 1: to fucking buy it or read it, don't. You certainly
Speaker 1: waste a lot of your fucking time posting about it
Speaker 1: on face on social media. You certainly are fucking interested,
Speaker 1: But if you don't want to read the book, don't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean she doesn't have the right, but you
Speaker 1: don't get to say anything about it that and don't
Speaker 1: tell me how to spend my money because people being like, well,
Speaker 1: at least don't buy it in a Barnes and Noble.
Speaker 1: You can go fucking shove your own cock up your
Speaker 1: butthole and let me watch on X two because that
Speaker 1: sounds fun. You're all fucking disgusted. She doesn't say anything
Speaker 1: about him or anything in the book that isn't in
Speaker 1: service of the party, that isn't in service of trying
Speaker 1: to bridge exactly why she believed the same thing she
Speaker 1: believed and took the stances she took, and why Bernie
Speaker 1: took the stances she took. She's not blaming him. She's saying,
Speaker 1: this is how divided we are, and this is what
Speaker 1: he believed and what I believed, and why I believe
Speaker 1: that was a problem for all of us coming together
Speaker 1: stronger to The book is called what Happened, So she's
Speaker 1: telling you what happened happened, and one of the things
Speaker 1: that happened was they were in conflict and it made
Speaker 1: her look bad, and had it had he become the
Speaker 1: nomine he probably wouldn't have won either because there would
Speaker 1: have been all the fuccory that happened with Russia anyway.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, get over it. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know just and what she's been saying in interviews is
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, it was has just been about him
Speaker 1: just doing this sort of damage that he sort of
Speaker 1: did inflect where it was like Hilary's a fucking crook
Speaker 1: because she's taking all these speaking fees and it's like
Speaker 1: she talks about in the book, She's like, I mean
Speaker 1: all my predecessors took speaking fees, everyone else who ran
Speaker 1: for president took like took money from all street, like
Speaker 1: had no reason to believe that it would have affected
Speaker 1: me this way except in these gendered ways. And then
Speaker 1: the line that like punched me in the fucking gut
Speaker 1: was like she just has this whole paragraph or she
Speaker 1: asks these questions like why am I seeing as a
Speaker 1: devisive figure? But Joe, Biden and Bernie aren't. Why am
Speaker 1: I seeing as this person? But these people aren't, Like
Speaker 1: why why am I like caustic, but these people aren't.
Speaker 1: And then she and then she paragraph breaks into just
Speaker 1: a one line paragraph after that, just as I'm really
Speaker 1: asking I'm at a she goes, I'm at a loss.
Speaker 1: And it was just like I was at the gym
Speaker 1: when I heard I'm listening on audiobook and I had
Speaker 1: to put the weights down and take a lap because
Speaker 1: it was so it's sad. It makes me so fucking
Speaker 1: sad for my sister. My sister is a fucking fierce lawyer,
Speaker 1: and she didn't take her husband's name. She has and
Speaker 1: Hillary has an amazing little paragraph in there about that
Speaker 1: about like Bill losing the governor. People said that it
Speaker 1: was her fault that he lost the governor's race because
Speaker 1: she didn't take the last name Clinton. And then when
Speaker 1: she finally did take the last name Clinton, there's footage
Speaker 1: of her just like in the seventies, um, just like
Speaker 1: on an interview on like on some like TV press thing,
Speaker 1: and she's just like, first of all, she looks she
Speaker 1: looked fierce back in the day, just like she like
Speaker 1: really just looks like this. She looks like Twiggy in
Speaker 1: a way, like with this like really fierce, like I
Speaker 1: make up and just like the scrape on hair, like
Speaker 1: brownish blonde hair, and she's just she just looks pissed,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, I decided to take I
Speaker 1: finally decided to, you know, just take Clinton because it
Speaker 1: seems like everyone was getting really up in arms about it,
Speaker 1: So you know, I will now for and she rolls
Speaker 1: her eyes back. She goes, I will now forever be
Speaker 1: known as Hillary Rodham Clinton, And I was like, fuck that.
Speaker 1: Fuck the fuck the fun the forces that like made
Speaker 1: that happen, and like for her to roll her eyes
Speaker 1: at that is like still so great in delicious. Well,
Speaker 1: that's fucking classic misogyny and sexism for you and your
Speaker 1: hatred of her everybody is fucking fueling. It's it's just tired,
Speaker 1: it's and it's also it's like why, like like I
Speaker 1: don't read the book or you know or don't, but
Speaker 1: either way, go fund yourself because you're gonna read the book.
Speaker 1: And I hope you feel like ship And if you
Speaker 1: don't read the book, continue literally living in your own
Speaker 1: fucking ignorance. Whatever. Maybe I'm drinking the kool aid too much,
Speaker 1: but I happily do so, and I like whatever, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not harming other people. It just having like
Speaker 1: being able to read. It's like, stop posting everywhere? Why
Speaker 1: is that anyway? I just think it is sexist to
Speaker 1: say that about her, like it it's garbage. I don't
Speaker 1: know that when you read the chapter on being a
Speaker 1: woman in politics, that's really hard to to to read
Speaker 1: and listen to in the situation. She accounts are so specific,
Speaker 1: and it's like the woman a fucking break, Give her
Speaker 1: a break. Did you see Corey book or being like
Speaker 1: he basically has like a leave Brittany alone moment, But
Speaker 1: about Hillary where they're like interviewing him, he's like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't leave her alone. God, It's like people don't fucking
Speaker 1: freak out about John McCain, like staying silent after his
Speaker 1: presidential race loss, Like we're still lionizing him like he's
Speaker 1: a fucking war hero, which I mean that's questionable to
Speaker 1: begin with. I don't know anyway. Um, let's let's just
Speaker 1: dig ourselves out of this heavy politics hole. Um. Did
Speaker 1: you hear that Larry is going to be a judge
Speaker 1: on All Stars three? Yes? Honestly, that would be a
Speaker 1: fucking guy I would get show. It was one of
Speaker 1: James Soon show this past week really and and we're
Speaker 1: and and I'm just like, Hillary's gonna go. Hill's gotta go.
Speaker 1: She's gotta go, She's gotta go. We gotta get her
Speaker 1: at the show, get bringing book her for slumber party.
Speaker 1: I would, oh my god, I would be an honor
Speaker 1: for her. You know what I thought about this? The
Speaker 1: one question I would ask Hillary Clinton is she is
Speaker 1: back in the day, especially at the show's peak, she
Speaker 1: was a huge greats Anatomy fan And I want to
Speaker 1: tell and I want to ask her what her favorite
Speaker 1: episode is or who your favorite character is? I love
Speaker 1: that someone. Who are your who are you for you?
Speaker 1: I want the question for you favorite your favorite characters
Speaker 1: in your favorite apps? Yeah? Um, Christina, Christina bit until
Speaker 1: I die. I didn't get Christina for a long time.
Speaker 1: I do think that she provides some of the best
Speaker 1: moments her. I didn't get her for a long time.
Speaker 1: My favorite character was Izzy until she started acting like
Speaker 1: just like like a stupid idiot. See and that's the
Speaker 1: that's the part of it that I do agree with
Speaker 1: Katherine Heigel about. The writing was god awful. And let's
Speaker 1: not pretend like Shanda isn't capable of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: like she wrote bad. Yeah, why why would you say
Speaker 1: that Cross is amazing? Sure? I just understanding, like Pros
Speaker 1: is a better movie than people give it credit for,
Speaker 1: Shonda Rhymes is not. She doesn't hit it out of
Speaker 1: the park every single fucking time. And also like she
Speaker 1: is very guilty of like stepping away and caring less
Speaker 1: about her shows after she feels like she gets away
Speaker 1: with so she so she walked. I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened with Gray's Anatomy, but season four was a total
Speaker 1: fucking mess. And I think that the way Kathy had
Speaker 1: season four, And do you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: especially with Christina, especially with Sandra oh honey, which one
Speaker 1: just wiping. That was not season four. That was because
Speaker 1: season three he leaves her. You're talking about you took
Speaker 1: a piece of me. No, no, no, no that season
Speaker 1: four season season unbearable. No um season She has to
Speaker 1: there you go my relationship with Preston Burke in writing Satisfied,
Speaker 1: you have where like that she has to report that
Speaker 1: she's left with Burke to the whole. It is not difficult.
Speaker 1: It's you guys have talked about this before, but I
Speaker 1: want to on record from me that her her you
Speaker 1: took a piece of monologue is the greatest television ever again,
Speaker 1: except she did it with a hundred different restraint that
Speaker 1: we just did it. Oh yeah, do you watch came
Speaker 1: back to the show just for that. Oh yeah, God,
Speaker 1: and it was beautiful. Oh my god, he's not the
Speaker 1: sun you are. She pisces me off those shots. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry she kisses me off, because I will never get
Speaker 1: over that she gets she let Isaiah Washington come back,
Speaker 1: That homophobic piece of garbage got to come back and
Speaker 1: wrap up the storyline because Christina deserved it. However, like
Speaker 1: she like can't can't fucking knock it at whatever ego
Speaker 1: thing she has with Katherine Heigel, and that character gets
Speaker 1: literally no resolution whatso average. Honestly, you know what, if
Speaker 1: you didn't like her, just fucking kill her in the
Speaker 1: cancer storyline, don't bring her back from the literal debt
Speaker 1: and the cancer storyline, only to have the character get
Speaker 1: fired six episodes into that. I didn't think it was bad.
Speaker 1: I just thought, if you're gonna then see it through,
Speaker 1: like have her pass away, because don't fucking have her survive,
Speaker 1: only to fire the character because she made like a
Speaker 1: judgment area, like it was so stupid. The show is
Speaker 1: so stupid. I'm sorry, but crazy anatomy so fucking but
Speaker 1: don't you think that we deserve? In a single from
Speaker 1: Ellen Pompeo from Ray Boys, Yeah dance track, oh wait
Speaker 1: but yes, agreed, And she also has been killing it
Speaker 1: on Twitter lately because well yes, because and someone someone
Speaker 1: sent me this tweet of hers um where it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: someone some idiot tweeted at her like oh she's oh,
Speaker 1: she's a fucking Hillary supporter. Fuck you Trump supporters hate you,
Speaker 1: we hate you. And then she like quote tweeted this
Speaker 1: person and was like, I wouldn't want to fucking Trump
Speaker 1: supporter as a fan anyway, you do? Like she was,
Speaker 1: so she goes, news flash, I wouldn't want it. I
Speaker 1: would I would never want a Trump supporter as a
Speaker 1: fan because she's literally like actual, like mouthie great. Do
Speaker 1: you ever see an episode of Punked? No, okay, she
Speaker 1: was an episode pung and like it's insane because she's
Speaker 1: with her husband, who knows that this is happening to her,
Speaker 1: but it's like they're at a restaurant in l A.
Speaker 1: I'm like, the waitress comes out and it's like being
Speaker 1: an idiot. And she walks away from the table and
Speaker 1: Ellen Pompey was literally like a waitress, She's a fucking idiot,
Speaker 1: like do DofE, Like she's a fucking idiot, and then
Speaker 1: she starts laughing about she's like and then she starts
Speaker 1: like making jokes about like her like falling down and
Speaker 1: like hurting herself like and you see the husband kind
Speaker 1: of be like, oh my god, TV, we're like on
Speaker 1: TV right now and you're bem And it's so funny
Speaker 1: to hear her like real accent. She's from I think
Speaker 1: she's from Boston or some sort of Massachusetts or something. Yea,
Speaker 1: but you see you hear her talk and it's not
Speaker 1: Meredith Grade talking. It's so weird. Ellen, what a mystery
Speaker 1: because we only know her as we only literally know
Speaker 1: her as the one character. Have you seen the interview
Speaker 1: with her and via the Davis and Mr Carry And
Speaker 1: they're like, so, what what would you do if Grayson
Speaker 1: may ever stopped? And she's like, well, um, I don't
Speaker 1: think it ever will, but if it does, I won't
Speaker 1: be acting anymore. And they're like, wow, why And she
Speaker 1: she actually do something that I thought was so cool.
Speaker 1: She was like, I don't find acting very empowering, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's cool. She's like, I think
Speaker 1: I would like produce. I was like, oh, you're you're
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yeah, I think she's totally cool. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: I need to watch this punk but you should. I
Speaker 1: want to burn I want the whole world to burn down.
Speaker 1: I want to see everyone's true colors. Also, I mean,
Speaker 1: Shanda may Or may not have had a hand in
Speaker 1: making Sara Ramir as bisexual by writing her character as
Speaker 1: a lesbian. She came out as bisexual like a year ago,
Speaker 1: which is great, but like, I don't know if like
Speaker 1: the character had anything to do with that. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. Boss. I think played a less being.
Speaker 1: I realized I was by well it's like that for
Speaker 1: a two orange as a new black writer who realized
Speaker 1: she was lesbian, she was gay after she kept writing
Speaker 1: these these these queer women. I think, really, is that
Speaker 1: how she discovers and then and then she fucking just married,
Speaker 1: um say Samara? Yeah, So, I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: think there's something about TV. I've also heard already. I've
Speaker 1: heard that Taylor Shilling is also a lesbian oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard she's by but I think she's in a
Speaker 1: relationship with a woman, a famous woman. I don't know
Speaker 1: who it is, and I'm losing it right now, but
Speaker 1: I feel like she's closeted. I think you and I
Speaker 1: think you and I saw her come out. We were
Speaker 1: we were we got off at JFK and we saw
Speaker 1: her come out. She was in the car in front
Speaker 1: of us at JFK. Did we were I think it was.
Speaker 1: I think we were going. I think this was Orlando,
Speaker 1: and she fucking came out and I was like, that's
Speaker 1: Taylor shilling. Oh my god, maybe you forgot about well,
Speaker 1: asked Dave, because I don't know, I don't know. We
Speaker 1: were literally very high the whole time. I remember this
Speaker 1: very vividly, Taylor showing that season of that show. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the best season. This is the
Speaker 1: best television show I've ever seen. And then I stopped watching.
Speaker 1: The most famous person that I've seen come out of
Speaker 1: a car is Anna Hathaway. Anna Hathaway, Anna was she
Speaker 1: getting out of the car and Meryl Streep was in
Speaker 1: the car and she was like, everybody wants to be
Speaker 1: us and she quit. Yeah, that was it. I was
Speaker 1: on set for Devor's product in Paris, France, on location
Speaker 1: to eminate you did do it remate what a delicious performance.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is like I'm talking about Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you know what, thoughts, I, let's talk about a
Speaker 1: new movie. What movie haven't we talked about? You've listened
Speaker 1: to every episode. There is a movie I want to
Speaker 1: talk about because I was thinking about you, Tim Murray
Speaker 1: the whole time as I was watching it last weekend.
Speaker 1: Tim Murray famously on the first I don't think the
Speaker 1: Honey Live episode, I don't think so honeyed Harry Potter
Speaker 1: fans um and uh, Harry Potter bullies. Harry Potter bullies,
Speaker 1: excuse me, and that is a specific term. And um,
Speaker 1: he instead proposed instead of a Harry Potter theme park,
Speaker 1: a practical magic theme park. I've never seen it, and
Speaker 1: I have to. I saw it last week with um
Speaker 1: Anna and Mike and um, it's not a good movie,
Speaker 1: but it's a there's great performances in it, but it's
Speaker 1: not a good movie like something horrible. Please, I've never
Speaker 1: seen it was for the comedy, and so you did
Speaker 1: your research and so you had that reference tucked away
Speaker 1: I had it tucked away because I said in my head,
Speaker 1: I was like, do I say the craft? Do I say?
Speaker 1: I just in my head like, here's some witch movies.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, I love. I love because
Speaker 1: the craft is very first thought, like everyone like will
Speaker 1: fall back on the craft. Practical magic is like a
Speaker 1: nice deep cut, and I love you referenced it even
Speaker 1: though you haven't seen it, because I feel like we
Speaker 1: should not. I feel like more people should do that.
Speaker 1: I I don't find a problem in doing that and
Speaker 1: referencing something that is not familiar to you. I think
Speaker 1: it's I do it all the time, reference from we're
Speaker 1: not getting We're not going to get a quiz exactly.
Speaker 1: It's not until you come on a podcast where like
Speaker 1: now that movie and you're like, I mean, we don't
Speaker 1: have to talk about I was just I thought of you.
Speaker 1: I loom that's so sweet. And problem with the movies
Speaker 1: that it didn't know if it was gonna be a thriller,
Speaker 1: a rom com, or you know, like what did it
Speaker 1: end up being like a fucking Frankin movie of all
Speaker 1: three of those of these things. It was like it
Speaker 1: wanted to be a thriller, a rom com, and like
Speaker 1: a fun like Nancy Meyers esk movie. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was wild. It's Nicole Kidman playing like the confident
Speaker 1: which no, it's it's Sandra Bell playing like the main
Speaker 1: which like the like the one who wants just like
Speaker 1: your normal cipher, like you can protect anything you want
Speaker 1: on her, and Nicole Kidman is like the rebellious sister.
Speaker 1: And then um, it's very Felman and Louise too, because
Speaker 1: I'm Nicole Kidman ends up dating this vampire who holds
Speaker 1: her hostage, and then they killed the vampire and then
Speaker 1: they bury the vampire and then their aunts are played.
Speaker 1: By its end, it's very superneo the teenage which their
Speaker 1: aunts were playing by Stockard Channing and um uh fucking
Speaker 1: and Wheest great cast and a young Evan rachel Wood
Speaker 1: play Sandra Block's daughter. Um so it's a great movie,
Speaker 1: well cast, but it's also it just doesn't know what
Speaker 1: it is and it was just kind of unwatchable by
Speaker 1: the end. Um but you know, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: in the lexicon speaking of witches. I was just going
Speaker 1: to literally going to say those exact words, what are
Speaker 1: you going to say? I was gonna say that Michelle
Speaker 1: Peiffer is back on screen and I can't bring myself
Speaker 1: the news feed is a disaster. Everyone did you hear
Speaker 1: that it received an F CinemaScore rating? So this is
Speaker 1: this is what happens when when all movies come out
Speaker 1: with the What what like this company does is they
Speaker 1: go to five random cities nationwide and they pull many
Speaker 1: audiences coming out of the f to give the movie
Speaker 1: a score a B, C, D or F like like
Speaker 1: a numerical not numerical like an alphabetical grade like you
Speaker 1: would get you know, it's cool. So famously this can
Speaker 1: really uh proved to say like how a movie is
Speaker 1: going to do based on word of mouth, because it's
Speaker 1: really the audiences that drive the box office. Like the
Speaker 1: reviews help. But a lot of people are going to
Speaker 1: go see Mother because they see Jennifer Lawrence and they
Speaker 1: see like a seventy percent scoring Rotten Tomatoes, which isn't bad. However,
Speaker 1: it got an F for cinema score, which is like unprecedented.
Speaker 1: Everyone hated. Almost everybody gave it an F and usually
Speaker 1: you can usually someone likes a movie like for example,
Speaker 1: Um like one of the highest scores of the past
Speaker 1: ten years, has been the blind Side. The blind Side
Speaker 1: got an A plus. It got an A plus Cinema
Speaker 1: score because and Hidden Figures also had. So Basically, these
Speaker 1: crowd pleaser movies that like have mass appeal, they'll get
Speaker 1: these very high scores. And those are the movies that
Speaker 1: have a lot of legs in the box stufs. I
Speaker 1: believe Wonder Woman also did really work. I think, so
Speaker 1: these movies have real legs. But if you get an F,
Speaker 1: that usually means the movie is fucking d o A.
Speaker 1: So it got an F and that's happened like five times.
Speaker 1: I think it might be like a producer's type of thing,
Speaker 1: where it's like such a dad that people will want
Speaker 1: to go see it. I mean, I have no desire
Speaker 1: to go see it, but people are talking about it
Speaker 1: like crazy. People are talking about it, and that's that's
Speaker 1: a rule of culture. And get the people talking, you
Speaker 1: go all presses good. But it makes me mad because
Speaker 1: there's nothing I want to do more than go see
Speaker 1: Michelle Phifer in a movie like I love Michelle Pier.
Speaker 1: The children have forgotten, the children have forgotten, there will
Speaker 1: never be a woman. But honey, Michelle Fifer was it.
Speaker 1: I even thought Anne was great, and she was amazing,
Speaker 1: and here's by the movie. She's amazing and everything. She's
Speaker 1: one of the I think of the past like thirty years,
Speaker 1: she's one of like the iconic faces on screen. She's amazing,
Speaker 1: and we think that. Imagine what the generation above us
Speaker 1: would say if they were sitting around. She's like one
Speaker 1: of the like the gays up the Gay Live they're
Speaker 1: talking about. But I was actually reading an article about her,
Speaker 1: which is an interesting article because she's been nominated for
Speaker 1: Oscars like several times um and actually has oh quite
Speaker 1: like versatile like talent like she does like period film
Speaker 1: she does, like superhero movies, traditional like contemporary romantic comedy.
Speaker 1: Is like she's she's got everything on her like resume.
Speaker 1: But what I read about her in this article this,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a pretty astute observation, was this
Speaker 1: happened sometimes with actresses. She's so gorgeous that you don't
Speaker 1: take her super seriously as an actress, and she's like
Speaker 1: too talented to be like super commercial. Does that make
Speaker 1: It's like you got that model face and was like
Speaker 1: ast talents and talent, immeasurable talent, and you're just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's how to process this, but I
Speaker 1: guess right in the way that like, you know, the
Speaker 1: big box office actresses are like of her generation, were
Speaker 1: like Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, Julia Roberts, not actresses that
Speaker 1: I think at the time of their peak. You could
Speaker 1: give them any script and they'd make it work. They
Speaker 1: are they heightened material, right, But she never was a
Speaker 1: box office sensation in the way that like, she's never
Speaker 1: been this drawer, like let's go see the new Michelle.
Speaker 1: And I thought that that was an interesting article and
Speaker 1: I got it because she is so striking and she
Speaker 1: is so good. Like you, you usually walk away from
Speaker 1: a movie with her in it and remember her. And
Speaker 1: people are saying that about this movie. I mean, that's cool.
Speaker 1: I mean I I do want to support that. I
Speaker 1: do want to support her. I think we can just
Speaker 1: start this campaign to just really like get her to
Speaker 1: number one on the IMDb Star meter. I I want,
Speaker 1: let's get Michelle to number one, number one. I want
Speaker 1: her to just make such a such a huge groundswell
Speaker 1: of a comeback. Well, they they're saying that she might
Speaker 1: get an Oscar nomination for it. I sure hope, because
Speaker 1: that is such a real thing. It's like we know
Speaker 1: that about the industry. It's not about talent. If it
Speaker 1: were about talent, all these theater actresses that I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with would have been a box office draw. But no,
Speaker 1: it's about, like Julia Robert STANDRIBI like accessibility. It's about
Speaker 1: usually it's about whiteness, and it's about accessibility, and like,
Speaker 1: who is someone we can put on the freaking screen
Speaker 1: that is like approachable and somebody that, like someone in
Speaker 1: the middle of Nebraska wants to come watch in a theater.
Speaker 1: Right And the thing is, I think right now there's
Speaker 1: really only been one and it's Jennifer Lawrence. And I
Speaker 1: think with this, well, I think I'm a Stone is close.
Speaker 1: Someone actually said that recently they think Emma Stone is
Speaker 1: like the next Julia Roberts in a way, And I
Speaker 1: think that that's pretty astute. Maybe um, but it seems
Speaker 1: like it seems like Emma Stone draws a certain vitriol
Speaker 1: that Julia Roberts never did people hate. I feel like
Speaker 1: people people did back in the day hate Julia Roberts. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I get that feeling because
Speaker 1: she was liked by women and men, which is they
Speaker 1: say what you need, right, that's the whole thing I'm
Speaker 1: just from just from stories I've heard, is like a
Speaker 1: cool fucking person. That's what I hear too. Heard that
Speaker 1: Jessie Britta Filter our friend was her roommate in l A. Well,
Speaker 1: they grew up together. And then speaking of drag queens,
Speaker 1: we got I gotta plug Tammy Spanks what you guys
Speaker 1: are all doing on a Sunday night, But you gotta
Speaker 1: get your ask to um Baraco to Seamy spakes Is
Speaker 1: and Brittle Filter New York Queens. But Britt is going
Speaker 1: to be one of those household names Dragon Britt Filter
Speaker 1: going to be on slumber party on my can't wait Wait.
Speaker 1: But she lived with Emma Stone. She calls her Emily.
Speaker 1: That's because yeah, their friend. They grew up together in Arizona.
Speaker 1: They moved to l A together. Then Emma Stone started
Speaker 1: to do like pretty well, I guess she's doing pretty now.
Speaker 1: They're saying that she might be up for an oscar again.
Speaker 1: Her playing Billy Jean King. Apparently she's better in this
Speaker 1: movie than she was in La La Land. And if
Speaker 1: she hadn't one last year, she would be a slam dunk.
Speaker 1: Oh damn that's what everyone. I'm excited for that movie.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for that movie because I didn't really
Speaker 1: I didn't really know that this was like an event
Speaker 1: like historic event. Oh no, this is like a big one.
Speaker 1: I don't know as much about as much about it either,
Speaker 1: but I have but total from being like a little
Speaker 1: sports kid, I knew about Billy Jean that's school. Like
Speaker 1: this was like it was exactly that. It was called
Speaker 1: the Battle of the sexes between this like chauvinistic idiot
Speaker 1: yes and who was like kind of like the John
Speaker 1: McEnroe of his time, and Billy Jean King, who was
Speaker 1: at the time a closeted lesbian uh women tennis champion,
Speaker 1: and he was like, let's do this. It'll be good
Speaker 1: for the sport. It'll get excited. And also you know
Speaker 1: how like whatever, I'll beat you and don't be a
Speaker 1: pussy like do it. And she beat him, She beat him,
Speaker 1: and and that's and now like battle of the Sexes.
Speaker 1: It's just like this like norm in tennis. And I
Speaker 1: sound so stupid, but like right as am I correct,
Speaker 1: Like now like like there there there are tennis events
Speaker 1: where it's like battle of the sexes and it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, just male versus female, and it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, modeled after that, right. I mean, that's I
Speaker 1: think it's one of those things that's like you can't duplicate.
Speaker 1: Of course not but but but they tried, totally, totally, totally.
Speaker 1: Where's my movie about Monica Sellis getting stabbed? I didn't
Speaker 1: even know that this. Hello, Monica Sellis wins a match. Hello.
Speaker 1: She walks over to her fans, says, hello fans. A
Speaker 1: fan stabs her on the shoulder. But nice, and she survived.
Speaker 1: She's totally fine, thank god. I mean, was it her
Speaker 1: tennis arm? Which one's your time arm? Bitch? I don't
Speaker 1: know which? Once she swing the club, don't she sing
Speaker 1: the club? I need that a number. I think rule
Speaker 1: number thirty of culture. Your tennis arm is the one
Speaker 1: you swing the club. That's like, that's like a sort
Speaker 1: of Nancy Karagan type thing. It was a big wait,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to return to this because I can't
Speaker 1: believe we just talked about Tanya Harding and Nancy Karagan
Speaker 1: without talking about mark film that's coming out I Tanya.
Speaker 1: It's called IM and it's stars Margot Robbie and Allison
Speaker 1: Janny as the mother, and I'm hearing it's basically dropped
Speaker 1: it gorgeous on steroids, which I'm here for. And also
Speaker 1: I'm getting different accounts of it, so like I'm reading
Speaker 1: a lot of First of all, I cannot wait to
Speaker 1: see this movie. I'm so down for You don't even know,
Speaker 1: are you man? Different account about whether' not Margot Robie
Speaker 1: thought Harding was a fictional character, okay. Also I want
Speaker 1: to get Margot Robbie off the hook for this, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because like you were just saying, she is from might
Speaker 1: have missed it. She's from a different country. I'll never
Speaker 1: from different countries that I'll never let anyone off the hook.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the Olympics, it's an international event, so
Speaker 1: who knows she's she's our age. I know about the
Speaker 1: Canadians who are no Russians who I guess I don't
Speaker 1: know the Russians. Controversy the Canadians Canadian Russian Canadian? Is
Speaker 1: that okay? But it wasn't on the level of Tanya
Speaker 1: and all. I mean, it was a controversy in its
Speaker 1: own right, but it wasn't one one's crazy, stupid husband
Speaker 1: trying to break the other one's knee right after a practice.
Speaker 1: So it's insane. But the different accounts I'm hearing are
Speaker 1: that it's a good and like jamat Lee potent and
Speaker 1: humanizes her, or that it's like a crazy ass can't
Speaker 1: can't be asked characterization of her where that like weirdly
Speaker 1: asked you to be on her side. But I'm down.
Speaker 1: I'm down for either or. All I know is that
Speaker 1: Tanya Harding was happy with it. They said the director
Speaker 1: and Margot were being interviewed and they said that she
Speaker 1: was quote great during the process and it was she
Speaker 1: was shown the movie and that she was pleased with that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's pleased, Like she's getting like all this
Speaker 1: attention again. Yeah, she that was was always the goal, honey.
Speaker 1: She wanted to be out from eighth place and up
Speaker 1: up and wanted and she wanted to sell her life. Right,
Speaker 1: it's honey, But it's not attention that she wants. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I mean, she wanted any attention. That's
Speaker 1: why she was so fascinating. She cried when she was
Speaker 1: doing her performance and was like, have you seen the
Speaker 1: thirty It's the documentary that a lot of this is
Speaker 1: based on that. It's a crazy you have to tim
Speaker 1: if you love you have to go watch. I think
Speaker 1: it's like on Netflix or something. It's a thirty for thirty,
Speaker 1: which is like an ESPN documentary series based in sports.
Speaker 1: But this one about Tanya Harding and Nanty Karagan is amazing.
Speaker 1: It's like modern day interviews with Tanya and she's basically
Speaker 1: looking at the camera like it took everything from me
Speaker 1: all I wanted to do all my life. I took
Speaker 1: it all, my mother, my husband, And it's so you
Speaker 1: don't know what to believe because she's like, of course
Speaker 1: I didn't know, but she's so like she's so worn
Speaker 1: down by the years that you're like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to believe. That that was in a desperate situation.
Speaker 1: There you go right there. That is why that story
Speaker 1: is huge and important and it's fascinating because like just
Speaker 1: just just that effect, that that effect of that event
Speaker 1: on her life, huge dramatic shake experience every time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is sha experience and that's why they call it Tanya.
Speaker 1: But also think of this, and I will advocate for
Speaker 1: Tanya for this for a second. She's head and shoulders
Speaker 1: the most talented skater there. She was the first to
Speaker 1: do the harding. She was the best apparently, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't have like the tape in front of me,
Speaker 1: but she was the first woman to ever complete the
Speaker 1: triple axel on the ice. It was and and Margot says,
Speaker 1: like they're doing they were shooting the movie, and she
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we'll just get a double to come
Speaker 1: in and do the triple axel. And then everyone on
Speaker 1: set that was like tasked with that was like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't understand, Like, there's really very few people in
Speaker 1: the world that can actually do that, and you can't
Speaker 1: get them to come here and do it and look
Speaker 1: like you, I mean, like that is wild. And it's
Speaker 1: so funny that the narrative that ended up taking hold
Speaker 1: was that she's like was white trash and that she
Speaker 1: was poor and like and you like, that's what you remember,
Speaker 1: and you don't remember that she was this amazingly skilled
Speaker 1: figure skater. Well, because they grade also based on presentation, right,
Speaker 1: and that's why. And also when she was in the
Speaker 1: actual competition, she was very bad, Like I remember being
Speaker 1: like Nancy Kerrigan was unfucking believable. Like I remember watching
Speaker 1: her and just being like, Wow, she is powering through
Speaker 1: this knee injury, and I thought she did a trip axel.
Speaker 1: I don't know that she ever did it. I know
Speaker 1: that Tanya was definitely the first. That's see I flip
Speaker 1: flop so much that I just I don't remember which
Speaker 1: one it was, but I do remember now whose side?
Speaker 1: Tell us um Oxana Bayol. I'm sorry, ox who that
Speaker 1: was a trick question. Beat Nancy Carrian, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: for the gold and you were supposed to say Michelle Kwan.
Speaker 1: I love Michelle. I had a Michelle Quan poster as well,
Speaker 1: and she was All of these women had the most
Speaker 1: incredible outfits and they would just they would dance mistake
Speaker 1: to this music. They were all honestly all of us.
Speaker 1: Even a little later, I was still into like Tara
Speaker 1: Lepinski and the Michelle is I'm going to say it,
Speaker 1: the Hill, every Clinton if that you're skating. Never got
Speaker 1: the gold, never had the moment. She deserved the moment
Speaker 1: she deserved because she was I'll never forget watching Sarah
Speaker 1: Hughes win the gold medal and they just horrible haircut,
Speaker 1: don't yeah, But she deserved it. I mean, she was turning,
Speaker 1: she was incredible. But I remember they just cut to
Speaker 1: a closed door and she she obviously like the vibe
Speaker 1: was that she was. It was such a Michelle Kwan
Speaker 1: fan that I like truly couldn't handle. I was happy
Speaker 1: for Sara who was because that was truly amazing skating.
Speaker 1: But I want a Michell Kwan by a pick now,
Speaker 1: constant swu, hell yea, make it happen, hell yeah, and
Speaker 1: Michelle Kwan campaign for Hillary, because you know what, it's
Speaker 1: the same narrative. These women who work so far who
Speaker 1: do not get what they so desperately deserve. Michelle Kwan,
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, Alexis, Michelle, You're a monster. You Alexis is great.
Speaker 1: We've come a drag and she looked fucking flawless. She
Speaker 1: looks great. A dragon. Okay, here's the thing, a little tea.
Speaker 1: Can we share this tea? Share the thing we we did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is they reached out to us to moderate a panel.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, not even moderate. I think it was
Speaker 1: to be on a panel or moderate something. We were
Speaker 1: options as moderators. And then they reached back out and
Speaker 1: they said that they're programming changed, but we'll be like
Speaker 1: pass like these passing. We said of course, and then
Speaker 1: it just the weekend went by and it was just
Speaker 1: one of those weekends where we were just like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a million other things going on. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: go all the way to the Javit Center, like you
Speaker 1: know what, you know what I read and I went
Speaker 1: and I went to the one in l A. And
Speaker 1: it's it's great, it's wonderful. It's just, I mean it's
Speaker 1: very transparent that it's just like, which is cool, Like
Speaker 1: you're not you're not trying to spend the money to
Speaker 1: take those pictures with those queens and like we are
Speaker 1: gonna do comedy with those queens or we have already,
Speaker 1: so it's welling. Yeah, yeah, you know them where you
Speaker 1: meet them. I'm not going to pay sixty dollars to
Speaker 1: take a picture with Shay you love you to death.
Speaker 1: But who is your queen for the people? For Tim,
Speaker 1: Bob the drag queen is like her, hands down, without
Speaker 1: a doubt, my absolute favorite. Agree and even and Bob
Speaker 1: and Bob and I got a little Twitter tip, but
Speaker 1: I still did get in the Twitter. I mean it
Speaker 1: wasn't even a tip. I mean Bob was just you know,
Speaker 1: like Bob was wrong. But Bob was a little salty,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, well, here's here's how I feel,
Speaker 1: here's where I'm coming from. And it was fine, and
Speaker 1: like I love Bob to death. Still Bob is one
Speaker 1: of my number one. Um oh, here's here's a little thing.
Speaker 1: Someone um, some some queen on on Facebook was like
Speaker 1: l O l at shake whole charging sixty dollars for
Speaker 1: a photo but RuPaul charging fifty. She's like, girl, who
Speaker 1: who the fund? Do you think you are charging more
Speaker 1: than RuPaul? It was like that. Every everyone head drag
Speaker 1: Con was talking about it. Every person you walked by
Speaker 1: was like, but in shade, I will say, in shads defense,
Speaker 1: she had a full like queens like Skol and um Kim.
Speaker 1: She and somebody else had like not only the look,
Speaker 1: but the book, like the booth was an experience and
Speaker 1: it was almost like going into a haunted house, like
Speaker 1: it was that cool. But yeah, I mean more than
Speaker 1: Taylor was charging five bucks in a dick pick. And
Speaker 1: I walked into the Dragon. Somebody grabs me and goes,
Speaker 1: Trinity is here, and I go, oh my god, oh
Speaker 1: my god. The Trinity was Trinity at Dragon. No merch
Speaker 1: for me? Whoa Because you know what because this is
Speaker 1: what I hear. Um Ruby Ruby told us this. Remember
Speaker 1: at night Saip, she was like, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: queens don't do drag because the booth feet is insane
Speaker 1: to open. It's crazy, it's a fucking it's it's like
Speaker 1: a bat hate. Wait, I've heard your queens on here before.
Speaker 1: Did you be is what you said? Oh yeah, like
Speaker 1: like like Matt and I are, did you be in
Speaker 1: Raven and Raven was Raven yours or you know the
Speaker 1: queen of my heart? Yeah, I mean I feel very
Speaker 1: close to list. All of us would agree a list.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yeah, Um Caughtia for all of seven.
Speaker 1: But then like since then, I've I've I've sort of
Speaker 1: hopped off that a little bit. Bob is just like
Speaker 1: someone who like we would go see and like we
Speaker 1: saw like the full arc of Bob and like that
Speaker 1: is so cool. I think that for me, Alyssa is
Speaker 1: everything I want in that Like she she's just I
Speaker 1: don't know she there's she's that unexplainable quality like she's
Speaker 1: just went to the look queen and saw her. Recently,
Speaker 1: after all sorts, I did a thing with Alaska and
Speaker 1: then then literally for This was the week of Drag
Speaker 1: Queens for me, of all starts to drag Queens. The
Speaker 1: next week, she was at Look Queen Preston and I
Speaker 1: went and I'm telling you, I have never and never
Speaker 1: will again be at any show like that in my life.
Speaker 1: Tammy Speks was standing next to me and she grabbed
Speaker 1: me and she was like, I'm so glad we got
Speaker 1: to go to a Beyonce concert together, because that's what
Speaker 1: it felt like. She was performing the house down, so
Speaker 1: funny on the mike, kept yelling at the DJ to
Speaker 1: play some better music, and it was so funny and
Speaker 1: just was like offering free drinks to everyone in the
Speaker 1: bar and then the bar tender will be like, you
Speaker 1: can't do that, and what to say to me? Like
Speaker 1: it was the best? Is one of those people who
Speaker 1: and this kind of goes back to your thing about
Speaker 1: like something just like opening up. I mean like before
Speaker 1: she was self aware, like would never have done this.
Speaker 1: Now that she knows her power and her humor and
Speaker 1: her spirit, like everything is happening for her. It's so cool.
Speaker 1: Before we move on, told wait, I want to do
Speaker 1: something special, So Tim, I want to do two things special.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Tim just released the video called is
Speaker 1: it when You're a Kelly Clarkson Supervan? Correct, when you're
Speaker 1: a Kelly Clarkson super fan. So talk to me about
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are on the New Kelly. I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with New Kelly. I have never heard lyrics that bad
Speaker 1: in my life, and yet I think it's incredible music,
Speaker 1: so so good, and I popped to it everywhere that
Speaker 1: I'm going. I think the whole album is going to
Speaker 1: be on fire. I have to. So she played the
Speaker 1: whole album for Entertainment Weekly I guess and they wrote
Speaker 1: up can Here's seven songs that are gonna be like
Speaker 1: New Kelly Carson Classics. From the album, there is a
Speaker 1: quote Whitney Houston esque ballad called I Don't Think About You,
Speaker 1: which is the breakup ballad for all time. I heard
Speaker 1: that it is based on her leaving r CA records,
Speaker 1: but it's written in the style of like I'm leaving
Speaker 1: you forever and guess what, I don't think about you
Speaker 1: pick me up off the floor because I am completely yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. And apparently she this is the song
Speaker 1: that quote shows off her range, as if all the
Speaker 1: other songs aren't doing that, that this is the one
Speaker 1: that shows off her range. That's incredible. Did they say
Speaker 1: did they say, didn't I would be one of those songs? Didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even on the list and didn't I sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: Roman to Tuta was like tweeting out from the Rainbow
Speaker 1: Room where they held like a big party for her
Speaker 1: on the day that the two songs came out and
Speaker 1: the album announcement was made. The Rainbow Room in New
Speaker 1: York like had a big party for her and she
Speaker 1: played like seven songs. She played six songs from the
Speaker 1: new album and walk Away, which she's been performing walk
Speaker 1: Away a lot because I think it's she thinks it
Speaker 1: fits with her new sound. It's like an old song
Speaker 1: that she has that she thinks fits in with what
Speaker 1: she's doing. The t that she's spilling about our c
Speaker 1: A is fucking piping hot read that I didn't read.
Speaker 1: So basically, basically, she was a co writer on My
Speaker 1: Life Would Suck Without You, but they gave it to Martin. No.
Speaker 1: This is right after My December, which was her album
Speaker 1: that she wanted to do for her that they das
Speaker 1: was like, we're not promoting it, and she They're like,
Speaker 1: learn your lesson. You want to make no money, you
Speaker 1: want people that work to work few to make no money,
Speaker 1: then do what you're doing. And then she said okay, fine,
Speaker 1: and all I ever wanted was kind of like her
Speaker 1: Red Flag album, like okay, she said one thing, she said,
Speaker 1: I don't want to work with Dr Luke. She said,
Speaker 1: I'll work with anyone else. Don't make me work with him,
Speaker 1: literally no one but this person. The very first single,
Speaker 1: they're like, you're gonna work with Dr Luke, she says,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to work with Dr Luke. They forced
Speaker 1: her to do it, are they are? They told her
Speaker 1: they wouldn't release her album because I think she had
Speaker 1: a very bad experience recording. Since you've been gone with him,
Speaker 1: I have a feeling he was verbally abusive towards her
Speaker 1: in the studio. That's like where that's like the t
Speaker 1: that I'm here, Bernard ci a down Barry Dr Luke
Speaker 1: in the words of Matt Rodgers, Barry Clive Davis. But
Speaker 1: she bury Barry Dr Luke. Clive Davis is a fucking
Speaker 1: is seating himself, I think, and I think he's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons. Why wouldn't he is dead? Thank yo? Um,
Speaker 1: but the fact is Kelly and I don't share to
Speaker 1: look like Kelly like changed a lot of lyrics to
Speaker 1: my life would suck without you and deserve the writing credit.
Speaker 1: And they said, so do you want to writing credit?
Speaker 1: And she said, I don't want my name near his.
Speaker 1: She said, I don't care how much money I'm gonna lose.
Speaker 1: They can have it as much as they want. She's like,
Speaker 1: I want to send a message to the people that
Speaker 1: work that work with me that this is not what's
Speaker 1: important to me. She was this that they made her
Speaker 1: do that. And then she also got sucked over on
Speaker 1: that album because Ryan Tedder was using like identical tracks
Speaker 1: already hal and Halo and Yonce's Halo, Yeah, Beyonce's Halo,
Speaker 1: which of course is henceforth known as Beyonce's Halo, just
Speaker 1: to make a distinction that it was that like, Ryan
Speaker 1: Tedder basically had the same core progression, same melodies were
Speaker 1: already Gone and Halo and a lot of his other songs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If honestly, if you've listen to a lot of US
Speaker 1: One Republic's Ryan Tedder, I was like, well, he's a
Speaker 1: talented musician. There's nothing to do with that. But a
Speaker 1: lot of those songs sound the same. It's like these
Speaker 1: mid tempo mega ballads um And she also got sucked
Speaker 1: over on that song and was public about it at
Speaker 1: the time, so she's been very unhappy for a long time.
Speaker 1: So it's cool that those videos you were showing me
Speaker 1: of hert was showing me the videos of her doing
Speaker 1: stuff live and the like. Yeah, she's really does look
Speaker 1: because she's able to dress and act and do the
Speaker 1: things she wanted. Because she also said recently in interview
Speaker 1: that at r c A they had like every major
Speaker 1: female vocalist, like Sony r c A, which is the
Speaker 1: whole company. They had like Beyondest, Christina Guilera, Alicia Keys,
Speaker 1: they had like everybody, Pink everyone, And she said the
Speaker 1: way she says it is she always wanted to make
Speaker 1: an album where she was singing like soul or urban music,
Speaker 1: but they would never let her because they didn't want
Speaker 1: her to compete with other people they had on the
Speaker 1: roster that did that. So she was always there, quote
Speaker 1: unquote pop rock girl, so they wouldn't she always like
Speaker 1: made the same music Like since U Bengal was followed
Speaker 1: by My Life, I took with that you was followed
Speaker 1: by Strong Girl, was followed by you know all these
Speaker 1: kind of rock pop rock pop rock songs, and she
Speaker 1: was never allowed to do anything different. Meanwhile, if you
Speaker 1: see her live or see any of her live performances,
Speaker 1: that she she just does so many more things everything,
Speaker 1: So you know what, that's huge And and just hearing
Speaker 1: you talk about Kelly and the way in depth it
Speaker 1: makes me so excited for them. Well, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of that because October the album comes out,
Speaker 1: and you know that I'm going to be promoting it. Yes,
Speaker 1: because that's my friends, that's different, that's your friend, that's
Speaker 1: my dear friends. I can't wait for you to meet
Speaker 1: her someday. I really want to be here and something
Speaker 1: I am manifesting it. I want to meet her during
Speaker 1: this albums like a promotion somehow I think it will happen.
Speaker 1: I want and yeah, we you will. You will meet
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson clarkson this album cycle what is it called
Speaker 1: Meaning of life? Called Meaning of Life? Of life? And
Speaker 1: I want to do one other thing. So tonight the
Speaker 1: Emmies are on, so this will air on Wednesday. So
Speaker 1: I want us all to guess what will win some Awards.
Speaker 1: It's real close. It's real close this year, and I
Speaker 1: want to and we'll see who wins. And that person
Speaker 1: will buy the drinks. Oh, that person who will buy
Speaker 1: the drinks at Tammy Spanks on Sunday. This is a gag,
Speaker 1: the legendary venue and Tammy is following in some very
Speaker 1: big footsteps and she will fill she will fill those
Speaker 1: shoes with a plum. You guys don't even understand. I've
Speaker 1: never seen a drag show where I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: every single song is exactly the song I want to
Speaker 1: hear right now. She is, She go does log rolls
Speaker 1: into the audience. It's she's so funny, phenomenal. Saw her
Speaker 1: perform in the Cherry Grove this summer so great. She
Speaker 1: did my comedy show, Drag Court. She was phenomenal. She
Speaker 1: is really a consummate professional and so talented. Let's talk
Speaker 1: best drama series. So I'm just gonna say the ones
Speaker 1: that have a shot at winning, which is not House
Speaker 1: of Cards and better call Saul so West World, Stranger Things,
Speaker 1: the Crown, that's a limited series, and there is Handmaid's Tale,
Speaker 1: and you're saying, I think you're saying it's Stranger Things,
Speaker 1: you're leading towards straight Well, I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: Stranger Things is gonna win. Yeah, I'm actually, do we
Speaker 1: have to compete with you? Or can we agree? You
Speaker 1: can agree. I've really want Strando Things to win, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna also assume that too. I think Stranger Things,
Speaker 1: maybe Handmad's Tale is the biggest company. But Manna saying this,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this applies to the show overall,
Speaker 1: but Manna sing with with the Best Actress in a
Speaker 1: Drama Series category, Elizabeth Moss is not going to get
Speaker 1: those votes because of the whole Scientology. I think people
Speaker 1: are sensing a lot of hypocrisy in her, and that's
Speaker 1: not gonna rub buff Well, despite the fact that she
Speaker 1: is very overdue for an Emmy because she went all
Speaker 1: those hours without winning, and she probably does deserve to win.
Speaker 1: But I just don't think people are down for the
Speaker 1: Scientology thing anymore, especially because La Remedies show one. I
Speaker 1: think it's like a statement to be like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to vote against this Scientology. It's an interesting category because
Speaker 1: West World has the most nominations of any show. It's
Speaker 1: tie with SNL, and that would ordinarily mean like that
Speaker 1: people would want that that would be the one to win.
Speaker 1: But also there's the Crown, which like a lot of
Speaker 1: people like and a lot of people feel like Netflix
Speaker 1: is due for a win, and it's like the prestige
Speaker 1: kind of royal show that usually does well at awards.
Speaker 1: I think, quick tangent, do you guys miss the time
Speaker 1: when we all were watching the same thing? Yeah, of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: you all had like the one. I This is maybe
Speaker 1: an insane thing to say, but I think this type
Speaker 1: of thing has a lot to do with the election
Speaker 1: to tie it all in that we like have our
Speaker 1: generation is so used to having everything so catered to us,
Speaker 1: down to our TV shows that they were like no Bernie,
Speaker 1: no Hillary, no Trump, no no, no no no, uh
Speaker 1: gonna pick Jill Stein because like their version of like
Speaker 1: like you can cater what comes in your new speed,
Speaker 1: You can cater what you look at an Instagram, You
Speaker 1: cater what TV shows you watch, Like everything is so
Speaker 1: individualized that we deserve. We shouldn't have to conform to
Speaker 1: two parties we should like And I just think it's
Speaker 1: so nuts it is. It's a very millennial thing. Um.
Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing I do miss
Speaker 1: those days. Sudie Green is at the Emmys right now,
Speaker 1: and she sent a picture of her dress and can
Speaker 1: you red? She looks so sad. She's wearing this amazing
Speaker 1: red dress. Um, she looks incredible. She she looks like
Speaker 1: Alaska and her perfume commercial. Um. Alright, okay, this is
Speaker 1: this is huge. It seems like you've got one prepared.
Speaker 1: I sort of have one. Um, So how about you
Speaker 1: go first, Matt, and I'll time you. Okay, I will
Speaker 1: go first. And this is, of course, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: This is the big old um, big old thing and show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Tim Murray has slayed before and he will probably
Speaker 1: slay again. But first me. Here we go first, Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The modern
Speaker 1: renaissance of horror movies, bitch, I am not gonna be
Speaker 1: squealing and squirming and chirpman watching these movies. It that
Speaker 1: is not it. I am not going in there. The
Speaker 1: first time I saw that clown, I said this, I
Speaker 1: and funked up about that cloud. Now I HiT's ripping
Speaker 1: off kids arms, dragging them under eating them. No fucking
Speaker 1: thank you. I don't like scary mother exclamation point. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. How about a question mark? How
Speaker 1: about a question mark at the end of Mother Mother?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I answered that with a no
Speaker 1: answer that question. No, I don't like to be afraid.
Speaker 1: How about this Happy Death Day? No, bitch, I don't
Speaker 1: want to watch a girl die again and again. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. And I know what's gonna do
Speaker 1: well because guess what. All these teens are figuring out
Speaker 1: that horror movies make them come and I'm not into it. Bitch,
Speaker 1: Stop it, Get your hands off each other's crotches, go home,
Speaker 1: watch a kind comedy with Sanda that you don't. I
Speaker 1: don't go to see Happy Death Day and we're gonna
Speaker 1: love it. I think it better be comical. I think
Speaker 1: it'll better be scary and funny like Scream. It'll be.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be scary and fun like Scream. Not
Speaker 1: necessarily funny, but fun and teens teens coming to horror movies,
Speaker 1: that's where they go, all right, that's where the teens go.
Speaker 1: This is I don't think so, honey, and his time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey, and forgive the
Speaker 1: basicness of the of this the emt A. Bitch. Today
Speaker 1: I had to go meet Tim Murray and Henry Koperski
Speaker 1: for something I was so excited to do, to help
Speaker 1: them with their their video, and it took me fifty
Speaker 1: five minutes for what should have been a twenty minute commute. Bitch,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, the m t A. This
Speaker 1: was the longest commute in my fifty seven fucking years
Speaker 1: in this garbage city. It was horrible. I hated every
Speaker 1: minute of it was sweaty, all the lines were down,
Speaker 1: every line, every line. And honey, I took the bus
Speaker 1: today too. I did. I did the stuff. We had
Speaker 1: the bus, honey, Yes that's right, m t A. You
Speaker 1: cannot don't poke holes in this because I took every
Speaker 1: single vertical in your stupid, stupid umbrella. And I hated
Speaker 1: every minute of the bus. I hated every minute time, Traine,
Speaker 1: you better get your act together. I go to Europe
Speaker 1: and it's a it's such a better experience. I go
Speaker 1: to Asia, forget it, it's amazing. M t A. You
Speaker 1: have a lot of catching up today. And Cuomo, you
Speaker 1: better fucking make do right by us. That's one minute como.
Speaker 1: You better do right by us, okay, and you better
Speaker 1: be a right man. You better be a do right
Speaker 1: man because you know what. Oh god, And I know
Speaker 1: that it's so boring to on the m t A,
Speaker 1: but they deserve every word of hate that comes their way.
Speaker 1: Today it was crazy and that was I felt so
Speaker 1: bad for you because like we didn't care all but
Speaker 1: everyone was roblem. I had a fucking actually really good
Speaker 1: experience today. Okay, whatever, Matt, Now you were late to this.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Three minutes late? Three minutes
Speaker 1: of my life I'll never get back. This is Tim
Speaker 1: Murray's I don't think so, honey, and his time it starts. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. People who slide into my
Speaker 1: d m s to ask about my friend, you are
Speaker 1: sliding into my dms. Honey. You better be talking about me, honey.
Speaker 1: You better be talking about how handsome I am. Honey.
Speaker 1: You better be talking about how funny I am. Honey.
Speaker 1: You better be donating a hundred dollars to my Patriot
Speaker 1: account so that I can make more comedy videos Patreon. Honey,
Speaker 1: you're a garbage honey. If you're doing that, honey, and
Speaker 1: you what. You look at my Instagram, you see a
Speaker 1: conventionally hot guys. You click on his link, and then
Speaker 1: you go to his pain and you see him shirt list,
Speaker 1: and you think that's hot, honey, funny, it's hot, honey.
Speaker 1: Oh you're You're not attracting me because I'm posting pictures
Speaker 1: of me in wigs, Honey. Funk off, honey. Gay men
Speaker 1: in comedy and women in comedy are not here to
Speaker 1: be your clowns, honey. We are fully realized sexual beings, honey.
Speaker 1: And I'm not your trash and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get I'm not going to have my friend take you
Speaker 1: out because we already did the chores this week. Honey.
Speaker 1: You don't need me to get late, honey, because you
Speaker 1: can go fuck yourself. Wow, amazing button. You might be iconic.
Speaker 1: You might wait, well, I hang in the All Stars
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame with with Pat Regan and the next
Speaker 1: I don't think so, And there might be a little
Speaker 1: format switch ap real quick before before we sign off.
Speaker 1: I have to get sentimental on you both for a
Speaker 1: lame moment. I don't think that the listeners if you
Speaker 1: haven't been I don't think so, Honey Live, You've gotta
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey Live. Part one was the
Speaker 1: week leading up to it was the worst week of
Speaker 1: my entire life. I like, I don't even want to
Speaker 1: fully get into it, but basically, like dark dark, dark
Speaker 1: Ship was happening, everything that was happening, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep this one thing because I just
Speaker 1: need like one moment to like take my mind off
Speaker 1: what's going on in my personal life. And I went
Speaker 1: to that show, and when I die, I will think
Speaker 1: about like the happiest moments of my life and being
Speaker 1: on that stage and like you guys, scirting me with
Speaker 1: water is one of them. That and seeing a Dina
Speaker 1: Manzelle this very day, and I was gonna write you
Speaker 1: both a handwritten think you know about what it meant
Speaker 1: to me. My god, literally you should have done that.
Speaker 1: You should have really done that. It's called what Happened. No,
Speaker 1: don't hold that book up, um, tim No, you weren't
Speaker 1: phenomenal and truly that just that just warms our hearts. Um.
Speaker 1: And you're bringing joy to the kids, and thank you
Speaker 1: for that. And we're listening and we are so excited
Speaker 1: that you are making as much stuff as you are,
Speaker 1: and you always bring my You lift my day up
Speaker 1: whenever I see Yes, I really truly adore you both.
Speaker 1: You've had such a positive impact on my life. It's true.
Speaker 1: We are crying, he we are crying over there. We
Speaker 1: are crying everywhere. We are crying. We are crying there.
Speaker 1: We are crying every right everywhere. Were you right? We're
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