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Speaker 1: you all. Culture. Well, there's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: lilt in that. I have to say. There's been a

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Speaker 1: lot of changes in my life lately, and I felt

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Speaker 1: like changing up the dingol. Okay, here we go because

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Speaker 1: I just before we record, I had asked you you

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Speaker 1: you're just coming in from work. It's we're recording in

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Speaker 1: the evening on a Sunday evening. You're working the weekend shift.

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Speaker 1: You're in your Brooklyn crab, So what's going on? And

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Speaker 1: you said, well, I'll tell you why. And I sense

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Speaker 1: this chippered nous, this energetic spirit. What is it? What's

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Speaker 1: going on? You all believe this? But oh my god,

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Speaker 1: this bitch has become a kombucha. I have begun to

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Speaker 1: drink kombucha each day. And let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: And Last coats this listeners know they've been on a

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Speaker 1: health journey with me and and us all and us all,

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Speaker 1: and I have to impart this wisdom onto you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not let me tell you something. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: I have famously had bronchitus and then the flu and

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Speaker 1: then for over a month, you guys, and I truly

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Speaker 1: think of you all the listeners, as close friends of mine,

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Speaker 1: so I will share this with you. I have not

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Speaker 1: been quote unquote regular in a long time. But then

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Speaker 1: the kombu And then I was speaking with one more

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Speaker 1: fright pass and I said, you know, I was on

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Speaker 1: a series of antibiotics this summer, and and she goes, well,

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Speaker 1: there you go. They fucked you up. So I was

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Speaker 1: truly wrecked. And she said you need probiotics. She said

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Speaker 1: you need to drink kombucha or go to the store

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Speaker 1: and buy the pills. But she's like, but they're expensive.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well maybe I'll try kambuja. And

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Speaker 1: I literally he asked what is it? Because I thought

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Speaker 1: it was some sort of like coffee offshoot, But little

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Speaker 1: did I know it is raw, organic, literal, live bacteria

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Speaker 1: haven't been totally on board with kombucha because have you

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Speaker 1: tried it? Yeah, of course, just you know I've I

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Speaker 1: was an early adopter. I got it on the ground

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Speaker 1: floor with kombucha. I'm just kidding it. What a disgusting

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Speaker 1: sentence to say. But um, I just never I got

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Speaker 1: did it for me. But if you're saying because because

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Speaker 1: you know what I've been complaining to you, I've been

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Speaker 1: taking poisonous ship water, no water. But also like I'll

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Speaker 1: you know when you when you do a little diary,

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Speaker 1: like it's like after that you feel great, you feel

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Speaker 1: but not not in these times, like I've had to

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Speaker 1: of the antibiotics. You know, it's rule number ninety two

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Speaker 1: of culture comedy and the rule of three, like clockwork,

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Speaker 1: clockwork three, that's okay, well great, Well, I have to

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Speaker 1: tell you there's so many different flavors, and I recommend

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Speaker 1: two brands, Synergy and Health Aid. Synergy is like the

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Speaker 1: big one. Synergy is like the famous one. And so

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Speaker 1: little seeds in their ginger aid. Oh fine, that's the

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Speaker 1: one you need, Dinger beer flavor. And our guest is

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Speaker 1: not in an agreement. Our guest is not in an agreement,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not an agreement because can I tell you something.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited and I'm so thrilled because I feel like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, boy, I feel like we've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of great guests, but it's time to get a

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Speaker 1: I even said, let's get a gay. Let's get it's time.

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Speaker 1: Time is now, Time is now. Let's let's list the credits, bitch, alright.

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Speaker 1: The credits are as follows his web series Unfunny Gay Guys.

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Speaker 1: You can find that on his YouTube channel Bitch. Also

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Speaker 1: on his YouTube channel Untucked the Musical, which is a

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Speaker 1: collaboration between he and friend of the show, Henry Cooper Sky.

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Speaker 1: And this is where they take amazing little well known

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Speaker 1: segments from Untalked, from Repels, drag Race and musicalize them

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Speaker 1: in fabulous, fantastic way. And an upcoming new project. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited for this. Yes, it's called Slumber Party. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be a new talk show featuring Tim. Also

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Speaker 1: on Tim's YouTube channel. And in order to more accurately

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Speaker 1: find the YouTube channel, you should know the bitches name.

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Speaker 1: Here we go and his name is Tim Murray. And

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Speaker 1: what a day, What a day it has been day.

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Speaker 1: I'm following a conversation about feces. Yes, covert, because it's

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Speaker 1: about the feast. Unfortunately, as gays we have to confront

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Speaker 1: fecal matter. Here's something I'm I'm recently starting to douche

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Speaker 1: I've done like the what they're called the fleet enemas

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Speaker 1: part of the peace that you do honestly listen, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like we can open up to you. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that was amazing. I remember saying to Henry, who's

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Speaker 1: We did a little you look at look it up

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Speaker 1: at Team Murray zero six. It's gonna be on the YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Come on, zero six baby. What can you tell us

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Speaker 1: about this project that today? Um, it's like basically the

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Speaker 1: I've realized with one of my other videos is called, um,

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Speaker 1: we get it you know each other? Yeah, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: love that. You need to watch that just like everyone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: know each other. But I've been making so much fucking

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Speaker 1: my first show and I was perferring for all these kids.

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00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: I was a Katie Scotland and Branson Reyes and I

426
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: get this news notification on my phone about Sandy Hook,

427
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh I And I didn't want

428
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: to tell them about this until after the show because

429
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: but I saw this and I went out and I

430
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: looked at all these fucking kids and I, this is insane.

431
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: And then all of us got into the car drove

432
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: back to the city and we were just silent, and

433
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: we were just like how what like how did this happen?

434
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: It was wild, wild, wild, wild, and we'll never forget.

435
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: I joined it after that too, and I remember, you

436
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: got it's weird you go into elementary schools now and

437
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: you and you look at the kids and you think,

438
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: you just get sick to your stomach. Are we Are

439
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: we your teacher? Now? Are we your great teacher? Now?

440
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: People did this to me? But it's crazy, It's fucking crazy.

441
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: And then and it's crazy that it's not going to

442
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: change now, especially after hearing her chapter in the book,

443
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: I was just like, what, this is insane to me

444
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: that we are not And after um Orlando. Then I

445
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: was at my ten year high school graduation the night

446
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: that happened, and I took all of all these boys

447
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: that I thought would hate me for being gay. We

448
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: all were out at a bar together and I was like,

449
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: I know, this is like so lame, but I'm having

450
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: such a good time with you straight guys. Let's go

451
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: to the local gay bar in town. And they all

452
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: came with me and we had the best fucking time.

453
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: And it was just like, you know, defeating these like

454
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: inner demons, like thinking these were my bullies. And then

455
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: to wake up the next morning and be like, oh wow,

456
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: this just happened in the gay bar somewhere else in

457
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: the country, and like from like trying to bridge that

458
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: gap of like making people feel comfortable and being like

459
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: even as an ally you could be I mean oh yeah,

460
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean a, I mean that that is just nice

461
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: isolated event it was that is you nice. Um. I

462
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: don't know if I've said this before, and when he

463
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: was on the podcast, I definitely didn't mention this. But

464
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: the night before, uh, the Pulse shooting, Cold School and

465
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: I were doing a show at Union Hall and then

466
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: we got went walked up to Artichoke Pizza and Park

467
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: Slope to get a bite and then we're sitting there

468
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: and uh, this crazy person like barrels in and is

469
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: like screaming and screaming and screaming, and then he goes

470
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: to Cole, Cole and me and starts screaming faggot at us,

471
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: and then he like lunges at Coal at one point,

472
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: and Cole was just like really shaken by and we

473
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: were both shaken by it. And then like and then

474
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: it was fine. After that, we checked in with each other,

475
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: we went our separate ways, which I checked in again

476
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: with him that like when he got home that night,

477
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: and then the next day fucking pulse happened, and then

478
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: checking with each other again, we were just like, it's

479
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: are we both like we're both thinking the same thing

480
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: right like this It's it's like it's just so fresh

481
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: still happening. Um yeah, like what a weird. It's so

482
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: sucked up to think about how all these atrocities can happen.

483
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: And she talks about the mothers in those chapters of

484
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: like you know, the murdered black youth and everything like,

485
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: and just to fucking realize that he still was elected,

486
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, with nothing, and he with

487
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: nothing on that topic and only like only all the

488
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: wrong thing, all the wrong things that everyone should have

489
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: a gun speaking of, like you teaching right, So the

490
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Orlando happened, and then a week later I was teaching

491
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: like kids, like young kids in a classroom, and I

492
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: have this paranoia thing where I'm always thinking that's something

493
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: bad is going to happen. And I am sitting in

494
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: the class and I was just like, what would I

495
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: do if someone came in here right now? There's forty children?

496
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: What would I do if I had a gun on me?

497
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: That wouldn't help, but would I do like that it's

498
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: not the answer, that it's not flat out not the answer,

499
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: and the fact that people think it could be the

500
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: answer shows people Room warmly believes it's in a truly

501
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: wild way. It's insanity. But the thing that's bothering me

502
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: the most about the fucking people's like fear over this

503
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: Hillary book and I'm seeing this a lot on my

504
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: Facebook feeds is it's like always the pull quote is,

505
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: oh look, wow, Hillary really stuck in the past, still

506
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: blaming Bernie. Fucking read the book. It is not about Bernie.

507
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: This book is not about Bernie. The library is open.

508
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Check out a card and check out the book. I

509
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: don't have time for your fucking bullshit. She she spends.

510
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm halfway through it, but from what I've read,

511
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: there's lines that are about Bernie and about you know,

512
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: the rightful ways and what she contributed to her loss.

513
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: Not that he wasn't entitled to say whatever the fuck

514
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: he wants to say and campaign however he wants, but

515
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: she's also entitled to write this book. You don't want

516
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: to fucking buy it or read it, don't. You certainly

517
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: waste a lot of your fucking time posting about it

518
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: on face on social media. You certainly are fucking interested,

519
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: But if you don't want to read the book, don't.

520
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean she doesn't have the right, but you

521
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: don't get to say anything about it that and don't

522
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: tell me how to spend my money because people being like, well,

523
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: at least don't buy it in a Barnes and Noble.

524
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: You can go fucking shove your own cock up your

525
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: butthole and let me watch on X two because that

526
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: sounds fun. You're all fucking disgusted. She doesn't say anything

527
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: about him or anything in the book that isn't in

528
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: service of the party, that isn't in service of trying

529
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: to bridge exactly why she believed the same thing she

530
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: believed and took the stances she took, and why Bernie

531
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: took the stances she took. She's not blaming him. She's saying,

532
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: this is how divided we are, and this is what

533
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: he believed and what I believed, and why I believe

534
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: that was a problem for all of us coming together

535
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: stronger to The book is called what Happened, So she's

536
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: telling you what happened happened, and one of the things

537
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: that happened was they were in conflict and it made

538
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: her look bad, and had it had he become the

539
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: nomine he probably wouldn't have won either because there would

540
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: have been all the fuccory that happened with Russia anyway.

541
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: So it's just like, get over it. Yeah, I don't

542
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: know just and what she's been saying in interviews is

543
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, it was has just been about him

544
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: just doing this sort of damage that he sort of

545
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: did inflect where it was like Hilary's a fucking crook

546
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: because she's taking all these speaking fees and it's like

547
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: she talks about in the book, She's like, I mean

548
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: all my predecessors took speaking fees, everyone else who ran

549
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: for president took like took money from all street, like

550
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: had no reason to believe that it would have affected

551
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: me this way except in these gendered ways. And then

552
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: the line that like punched me in the fucking gut

553
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: was like she just has this whole paragraph or she

554
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: asks these questions like why am I seeing as a

555
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: devisive figure? But Joe, Biden and Bernie aren't. Why am

556
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: I seeing as this person? But these people aren't, Like

557
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: why why am I like caustic, but these people aren't.

558
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: And then she and then she paragraph breaks into just

559
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: a one line paragraph after that, just as I'm really

560
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: asking I'm at a she goes, I'm at a loss.

561
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: And it was just like I was at the gym

562
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: when I heard I'm listening on audiobook and I had

563
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: to put the weights down and take a lap because

564
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: it was so it's sad. It makes me so fucking

565
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: sad for my sister. My sister is a fucking fierce lawyer,

566
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: and she didn't take her husband's name. She has and

567
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: Hillary has an amazing little paragraph in there about that

568
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: about like Bill losing the governor. People said that it

569
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: was her fault that he lost the governor's race because

570
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: she didn't take the last name Clinton. And then when

571
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: she finally did take the last name Clinton, there's footage

572
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: of her just like in the seventies, um, just like

573
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: on an interview on like on some like TV press thing,

574
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: and she's just like, first of all, she looks she

575
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: looked fierce back in the day, just like she like

576
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: really just looks like this. She looks like Twiggy in

577
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: a way, like with this like really fierce, like I

578
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: make up and just like the scrape on hair, like

579
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: brownish blonde hair, and she's just she just looks pissed,

580
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, I decided to take I

581
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: finally decided to, you know, just take Clinton because it

582
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: seems like everyone was getting really up in arms about it,

583
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: So you know, I will now for and she rolls

584
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: her eyes back. She goes, I will now forever be

585
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: known as Hillary Rodham Clinton, And I was like, fuck that.

586
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Fuck the fuck the fun the forces that like made

587
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: that happen, and like for her to roll her eyes

588
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: at that is like still so great in delicious. Well,

589
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: that's fucking classic misogyny and sexism for you and your

590
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: hatred of her everybody is fucking fueling. It's it's just tired,

591
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: it's and it's also it's like why, like like I

592
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: don't read the book or you know or don't, but

593
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: either way, go fund yourself because you're gonna read the book.

594
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: And I hope you feel like ship And if you

595
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: don't read the book, continue literally living in your own

596
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: fucking ignorance. Whatever. Maybe I'm drinking the kool aid too much,

597
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: but I happily do so, and I like whatever, it's

598
00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: not it's not harming other people. It just having like

599
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: being able to read. It's like, stop posting everywhere? Why

600
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: is that anyway? I just think it is sexist to

601
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: say that about her, like it it's garbage. I don't

602
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: know that when you read the chapter on being a

603
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: woman in politics, that's really hard to to to read

604
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: and listen to in the situation. She accounts are so specific,

605
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: and it's like the woman a fucking break, Give her

606
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: a break. Did you see Corey book or being like

607
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: he basically has like a leave Brittany alone moment, But

608
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: about Hillary where they're like interviewing him, he's like, it

609
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: doesn't leave her alone. God, It's like people don't fucking

610
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: freak out about John McCain, like staying silent after his

611
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: presidential race loss, Like we're still lionizing him like he's

612
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: a fucking war hero, which I mean that's questionable to

613
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: begin with. I don't know anyway. Um, let's let's just

614
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: dig ourselves out of this heavy politics hole. Um. Did

615
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: you hear that Larry is going to be a judge

616
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: on All Stars three? Yes? Honestly, that would be a

617
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: fucking guy I would get show. It was one of

618
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: James Soon show this past week really and and we're

619
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: and and I'm just like, Hillary's gonna go. Hill's gotta go.

620
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: She's gotta go, She's gotta go. We gotta get her

621
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: at the show, get bringing book her for slumber party.

622
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: I would, oh my god, I would be an honor

623
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: for her. You know what I thought about this? The

624
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: one question I would ask Hillary Clinton is she is

625
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: back in the day, especially at the show's peak, she

626
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: was a huge greats Anatomy fan And I want to

627
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: tell and I want to ask her what her favorite

628
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: episode is or who your favorite character is? I love

629
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: that someone. Who are your who are you for you?

630
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: I want the question for you favorite your favorite characters

631
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: in your favorite apps? Yeah? Um, Christina, Christina bit until

632
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: I die. I didn't get Christina for a long time.

633
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: I do think that she provides some of the best

634
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: moments her. I didn't get her for a long time.

635
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: My favorite character was Izzy until she started acting like

636
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: just like like a stupid idiot. See and that's the

637
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: that's the part of it that I do agree with

638
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: Katherine Heigel about. The writing was god awful. And let's

639
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Speaker 1: not pretend like Shanda isn't capable of that. I mean,

640
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: like she wrote bad. Yeah, why why would you say

641
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: that Cross is amazing? Sure? I just understanding, like Pros

642
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: is a better movie than people give it credit for,

643
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: Shonda Rhymes is not. She doesn't hit it out of

644
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: the park every single fucking time. And also like she

645
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: is very guilty of like stepping away and caring less

646
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: about her shows after she feels like she gets away

647
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: with so she so she walked. I don't know what

648
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: happened with Gray's Anatomy, but season four was a total

649
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: fucking mess. And I think that the way Kathy had

650
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: season four, And do you know what I'm talking about,

651
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: especially with Christina, especially with Sandra oh honey, which one

652
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: just wiping. That was not season four. That was because

653
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: season three he leaves her. You're talking about you took

654
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: a piece of me. No, no, no, no that season

655
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: four season season unbearable. No um season She has to

656
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: there you go my relationship with Preston Burke in writing Satisfied,

657
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: you have where like that she has to report that

658
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: she's left with Burke to the whole. It is not difficult.

659
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: It's you guys have talked about this before, but I

660
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: want to on record from me that her her you

661
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Speaker 1: took a piece of monologue is the greatest television ever again,

662
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: except she did it with a hundred different restraint that

663
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: we just did it. Oh yeah, do you watch came

664
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: back to the show just for that. Oh yeah, God,

665
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: and it was beautiful. Oh my god, he's not the

666
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: sun you are. She pisces me off those shots. I'm

667
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: sorry she kisses me off, because I will never get

668
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: over that she gets she let Isaiah Washington come back,

669
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: That homophobic piece of garbage got to come back and

670
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: wrap up the storyline because Christina deserved it. However, like

671
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: she like can't can't fucking knock it at whatever ego

672
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: thing she has with Katherine Heigel, and that character gets

673
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: literally no resolution whatso average. Honestly, you know what, if

674
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Speaker 1: you didn't like her, just fucking kill her in the

675
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: cancer storyline, don't bring her back from the literal debt

676
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: and the cancer storyline, only to have the character get

677
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: fired six episodes into that. I didn't think it was bad.

678
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 1: I just thought, if you're gonna then see it through,

679
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: like have her pass away, because don't fucking have her survive,

680
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: only to fire the character because she made like a

681
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: judgment area, like it was so stupid. The show is

682
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: so stupid. I'm sorry, but crazy anatomy so fucking but

683
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: don't you think that we deserve? In a single from

684
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Speaker 1: Ellen Pompeo from Ray Boys, Yeah dance track, oh wait

685
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: but yes, agreed, And she also has been killing it

686
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter lately because well yes, because and someone someone

687
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: sent me this tweet of hers um where it's like, uh,

688
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: someone some idiot tweeted at her like oh she's oh,

689
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: she's a fucking Hillary supporter. Fuck you Trump supporters hate you,

690
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: we hate you. And then she like quote tweeted this

691
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: person and was like, I wouldn't want to fucking Trump

692
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: supporter as a fan anyway, you do? Like she was,

693
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Speaker 1: so she goes, news flash, I wouldn't want it. I

694
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Speaker 1: would I would never want a Trump supporter as a

695
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: fan because she's literally like actual, like mouthie great. Do

696
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: you ever see an episode of Punked? No, okay, she

697
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: was an episode pung and like it's insane because she's

698
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Speaker 1: with her husband, who knows that this is happening to her,

699
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: but it's like they're at a restaurant in l A.

700
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, the waitress comes out and it's like being

701
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: an idiot. And she walks away from the table and

702
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: Ellen Pompey was literally like a waitress, She's a fucking idiot,

703
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: like do DofE, Like she's a fucking idiot, and then

704
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: she starts laughing about she's like and then she starts

705
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: like making jokes about like her like falling down and

706
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: like hurting herself like and you see the husband kind

707
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: of be like, oh my god, TV, we're like on

708
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: TV right now and you're bem And it's so funny

709
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: to hear her like real accent. She's from I think

710
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: she's from Boston or some sort of Massachusetts or something. Yea,

711
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: but you see you hear her talk and it's not

712
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: Meredith Grade talking. It's so weird. Ellen, what a mystery

713
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: because we only know her as we only literally know

714
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: her as the one character. Have you seen the interview

715
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: with her and via the Davis and Mr Carry And

716
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: they're like, so, what what would you do if Grayson

717
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: may ever stopped? And she's like, well, um, I don't

718
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: think it ever will, but if it does, I won't

719
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: be acting anymore. And they're like, wow, why And she

720
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: she actually do something that I thought was so cool.

721
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: She was like, I don't find acting very empowering, and

722
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's cool. She's like, I think

723
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: I would like produce. I was like, oh, you're you're

724
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yeah, I think she's totally cool. That's so funny.

725
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: I need to watch this punk but you should. I

726
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: want to burn I want the whole world to burn down.

727
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: I want to see everyone's true colors. Also, I mean,

728
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Speaker 1: Shanda may Or may not have had a hand in

729
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: making Sara Ramir as bisexual by writing her character as

730
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Speaker 1: a lesbian. She came out as bisexual like a year ago,

731
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: which is great, but like, I don't know if like

732
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Speaker 1: the character had anything to do with that. I don't

733
00:39:53,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: know about that. Boss. I think played a less being.

734
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: I realized I was by well it's like that for

735
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Speaker 1: a two orange as a new black writer who realized

736
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Speaker 1: she was lesbian, she was gay after she kept writing

737
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: these these these queer women. I think, really, is that

738
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Speaker 1: how she discovers and then and then she fucking just married,

739
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: um say Samara? Yeah, So, I mean, I think I

740
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Speaker 1: think there's something about TV. I've also heard already. I've

741
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: heard that Taylor Shilling is also a lesbian oh yeah,

742
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Speaker 1: I've heard she's by but I think she's in a

743
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: relationship with a woman, a famous woman. I don't know

744
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: who it is, and I'm losing it right now, but

745
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: I feel like she's closeted. I think you and I

746
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: think you and I saw her come out. We were

747
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: we were we got off at JFK and we saw

748
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: her come out. She was in the car in front

749
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Speaker 1: of us at JFK. Did we were I think it was.

750
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Speaker 1: I think we were going. I think this was Orlando,

751
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: and she fucking came out and I was like, that's

752
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Taylor shilling. Oh my god, maybe you forgot about well,

753
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: asked Dave, because I don't know, I don't know. We

754
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: were literally very high the whole time. I remember this

755
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: very vividly, Taylor showing that season of that show. I

756
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: was like, this is the best season. This is the

757
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: best television show I've ever seen. And then I stopped watching.

758
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: The most famous person that I've seen come out of

759
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: a car is Anna Hathaway. Anna Hathaway, Anna was she

760
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: getting out of the car and Meryl Streep was in

761
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: the car and she was like, everybody wants to be

762
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: us and she quit. Yeah, that was it. I was

763
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: on set for Devor's product in Paris, France, on location

764
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Speaker 1: to eminate you did do it remate what a delicious performance.

765
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is like I'm talking about Yeah.

766
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Speaker 1: But you know what, thoughts, I, let's talk about a

767
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: new movie. What movie haven't we talked about? You've listened

768
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: to every episode. There is a movie I want to

769
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: talk about because I was thinking about you, Tim Murray

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00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: the whole time as I was watching it last weekend.

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00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: Tim Murray famously on the first I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Honey Live episode, I don't think so honeyed Harry Potter

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Speaker 1: fans um and uh, Harry Potter bullies. Harry Potter bullies,

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00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: excuse me, and that is a specific term. And um,

775
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: he instead proposed instead of a Harry Potter theme park,

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00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: a practical magic theme park. I've never seen it, and

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00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: I have to. I saw it last week with um

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00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Anna and Mike and um, it's not a good movie,

779
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: but it's a there's great performances in it, but it's

780
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: not a good movie like something horrible. Please, I've never

781
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: seen it was for the comedy, and so you did

782
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: your research and so you had that reference tucked away

783
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: I had it tucked away because I said in my head,

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00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: I was like, do I say the craft? Do I say?

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00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: I just in my head like, here's some witch movies.

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00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: And then I was like, I love. I love because

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00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: the craft is very first thought, like everyone like will

788
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: fall back on the craft. Practical magic is like a

789
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: nice deep cut, and I love you referenced it even

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00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: though you haven't seen it, because I feel like we

791
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: should not. I feel like more people should do that.

792
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: I I don't find a problem in doing that and

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00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: referencing something that is not familiar to you. I think

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00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: it's I do it all the time, reference from we're

795
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: not getting We're not going to get a quiz exactly.

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00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: It's not until you come on a podcast where like

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00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: now that movie and you're like, I mean, we don't

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Speaker 1: have to talk about I was just I thought of you.

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00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: I loom that's so sweet. And problem with the movies

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Speaker 1: that it didn't know if it was gonna be a thriller,

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00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: a rom com, or you know, like what did it

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00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: end up being like a fucking Frankin movie of all

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00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: three of those of these things. It was like it

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00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: wanted to be a thriller, a rom com, and like

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00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: a fun like Nancy Meyers esk movie. It was crazy.

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00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: It was wild. It's Nicole Kidman playing like the confident

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00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: which no, it's it's Sandra Bell playing like the main

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00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: which like the like the one who wants just like

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00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: your normal cipher, like you can protect anything you want

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Speaker 1: on her, and Nicole Kidman is like the rebellious sister.

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Speaker 1: And then um, it's very Felman and Louise too, because

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00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm Nicole Kidman ends up dating this vampire who holds

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Speaker 1: her hostage, and then they killed the vampire and then

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00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: they bury the vampire and then their aunts are played.

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00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: By its end, it's very superneo the teenage which their

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00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: aunts were playing by Stockard Channing and um uh fucking

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Speaker 1: and Wheest great cast and a young Evan rachel Wood

818
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: play Sandra Block's daughter. Um so it's a great movie,

819
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: well cast, but it's also it just doesn't know what

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00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: it is and it was just kind of unwatchable by

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Speaker 1: the end. Um but you know, it's it's it's it's

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00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: in the lexicon speaking of witches. I was just going

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Speaker 1: to literally going to say those exact words, what are

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Speaker 1: you going to say? I was gonna say that Michelle

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Speaker 1: Peiffer is back on screen and I can't bring myself

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Speaker 1: the news feed is a disaster. Everyone did you hear

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Speaker 1: that it received an F CinemaScore rating? So this is

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Speaker 1: this is what happens when when all movies come out

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Speaker 1: with the What what like this company does is they

830
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Speaker 1: go to five random cities nationwide and they pull many

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Speaker 1: audiences coming out of the f to give the movie

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Speaker 1: a score a B, C, D or F like like

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Speaker 1: a numerical not numerical like an alphabetical grade like you

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Speaker 1: would get you know, it's cool. So famously this can

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Speaker 1: really uh proved to say like how a movie is

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Speaker 1: going to do based on word of mouth, because it's

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Speaker 1: really the audiences that drive the box office. Like the

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00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: reviews help. But a lot of people are going to

839
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: go see Mother because they see Jennifer Lawrence and they

840
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: see like a seventy percent scoring Rotten Tomatoes, which isn't bad. However,

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00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: it got an F for cinema score, which is like unprecedented.

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00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Everyone hated. Almost everybody gave it an F and usually

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00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: you can usually someone likes a movie like for example,

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Speaker 1: Um like one of the highest scores of the past

845
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: ten years, has been the blind Side. The blind Side

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Speaker 1: got an A plus. It got an A plus Cinema

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00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: score because and Hidden Figures also had. So Basically, these

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00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: crowd pleaser movies that like have mass appeal, they'll get

849
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: these very high scores. And those are the movies that

850
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of legs in the box stufs. I

851
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: believe Wonder Woman also did really work. I think, so

852
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: these movies have real legs. But if you get an F,

853
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: that usually means the movie is fucking d o A.

854
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: So it got an F and that's happened like five times.

855
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: I think it might be like a producer's type of thing,

856
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: where it's like such a dad that people will want

857
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: to go see it. I mean, I have no desire

858
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: to go see it, but people are talking about it

859
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: like crazy. People are talking about it, and that's that's

860
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: a rule of culture. And get the people talking, you

861
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: go all presses good. But it makes me mad because

862
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: there's nothing I want to do more than go see

863
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: Michelle Phifer in a movie like I love Michelle Pier.

864
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: The children have forgotten, the children have forgotten, there will

865
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: never be a woman. But honey, Michelle Fifer was it.

866
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: I even thought Anne was great, and she was amazing,

867
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: and here's by the movie. She's amazing and everything. She's

868
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: one of the I think of the past like thirty years,

869
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: she's one of like the iconic faces on screen. She's amazing,

870
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: and we think that. Imagine what the generation above us

871
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: would say if they were sitting around. She's like one

872
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: of the like the gays up the Gay Live they're

873
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: talking about. But I was actually reading an article about her,

874
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: which is an interesting article because she's been nominated for

875
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Oscars like several times um and actually has oh quite

876
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: like versatile like talent like she does like period film

877
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: she does, like superhero movies, traditional like contemporary romantic comedy.

878
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Is like she's she's got everything on her like resume.

879
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: But what I read about her in this article this,

880
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: I thought it was a pretty astute observation, was this

881
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: happened sometimes with actresses. She's so gorgeous that you don't

882
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: take her super seriously as an actress, and she's like

883
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: too talented to be like super commercial. Does that make

884
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: It's like you got that model face and was like

885
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: ast talents and talent, immeasurable talent, and you're just like,

886
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what's how to process this, but I

887
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: guess right in the way that like, you know, the

888
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: big box office actresses are like of her generation, were

889
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: like Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, Julia Roberts, not actresses that

890
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: I think at the time of their peak. You could

891
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: give them any script and they'd make it work. They

892
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: are they heightened material, right, But she never was a

893
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: box office sensation in the way that like, she's never

894
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: been this drawer, like let's go see the new Michelle.

895
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: And I thought that that was an interesting article and

896
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: I got it because she is so striking and she

897
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: is so good. Like you, you usually walk away from

898
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: a movie with her in it and remember her. And

899
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: people are saying that about this movie. I mean, that's cool.

900
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: I mean I I do want to support that. I

901
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: do want to support her. I think we can just

902
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: start this campaign to just really like get her to

903
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: number one on the IMDb Star meter. I I want,

904
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: let's get Michelle to number one, number one. I want

905
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: her to just make such a such a huge groundswell

906
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: of a comeback. Well, they they're saying that she might

907
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: get an Oscar nomination for it. I sure hope, because

908
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: that is such a real thing. It's like we know

909
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: that about the industry. It's not about talent. If it

910
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: were about talent, all these theater actresses that I'm obsessed

911
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: with would have been a box office draw. But no,

912
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: it's about, like Julia Robert STANDRIBI like accessibility. It's about

913
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: usually it's about whiteness, and it's about accessibility, and like,

914
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: who is someone we can put on the freaking screen

915
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: that is like approachable and somebody that, like someone in

916
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: the middle of Nebraska wants to come watch in a theater.

917
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: Right And the thing is, I think right now there's

918
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: really only been one and it's Jennifer Lawrence. And I

919
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: think with this, well, I think I'm a Stone is close.

920
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: Someone actually said that recently they think Emma Stone is

921
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: like the next Julia Roberts in a way, And I

922
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: think that that's pretty astute. Maybe um, but it seems

923
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: like it seems like Emma Stone draws a certain vitriol

924
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: that Julia Roberts never did people hate. I feel like

925
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: people people did back in the day hate Julia Roberts. Really,

926
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I get that feeling because

927
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: she was liked by women and men, which is they

928
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: say what you need, right, that's the whole thing I'm

929
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: just from just from stories I've heard, is like a

930
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: cool fucking person. That's what I hear too. Heard that

931
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: Jessie Britta Filter our friend was her roommate in l A. Well,

932
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: they grew up together. And then speaking of drag queens,

933
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: we got I gotta plug Tammy Spanks what you guys

934
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: are all doing on a Sunday night, But you gotta

935
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: get your ask to um Baraco to Seamy spakes Is

936
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: and Brittle Filter New York Queens. But Britt is going

937
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: to be one of those household names Dragon Britt Filter

938
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: going to be on slumber party on my can't wait Wait.

939
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: But she lived with Emma Stone. She calls her Emily.

940
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: That's because yeah, their friend. They grew up together in Arizona.

941
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: They moved to l A together. Then Emma Stone started

942
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: to do like pretty well, I guess she's doing pretty now.

943
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: They're saying that she might be up for an oscar again.

944
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: Her playing Billy Jean King. Apparently she's better in this

945
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: movie than she was in La La Land. And if

946
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: she hadn't one last year, she would be a slam dunk.

947
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: Oh damn that's what everyone. I'm excited for that movie.

948
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for that movie because I didn't really

949
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: I didn't really know that this was like an event

950
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: like historic event. Oh no, this is like a big one.

951
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't know as much about as much about it either,

952
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: but I have but total from being like a little

953
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: sports kid, I knew about Billy Jean that's school. Like

954
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: this was like it was exactly that. It was called

955
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: the Battle of the sexes between this like chauvinistic idiot

956
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: yes and who was like kind of like the John

957
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: McEnroe of his time, and Billy Jean King, who was

958
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: at the time a closeted lesbian uh women tennis champion,

959
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: and he was like, let's do this. It'll be good

960
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: for the sport. It'll get excited. And also you know

961
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: how like whatever, I'll beat you and don't be a

962
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: pussy like do it. And she beat him, She beat him,

963
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: and and that's and now like battle of the Sexes.

964
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: It's just like this like norm in tennis. And I

965
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: sound so stupid, but like right as am I correct,

966
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: Like now like like there there there are tennis events

967
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: where it's like battle of the sexes and it's just like,

968
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, just male versus female, and it's just like,

969
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, modeled after that, right. I mean, that's I

970
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: think it's one of those things that's like you can't duplicate.

971
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Of course not but but but they tried, totally, totally, totally.

972
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: Where's my movie about Monica Sellis getting stabbed? I didn't

973
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: even know that this. Hello, Monica Sellis wins a match. Hello.

974
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: She walks over to her fans, says, hello fans. A

975
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: fan stabs her on the shoulder. But nice, and she survived.

976
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: She's totally fine, thank god. I mean, was it her

977
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: tennis arm? Which one's your time arm? Bitch? I don't

978
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: know which? Once she swing the club, don't she sing

979
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: the club? I need that a number. I think rule

980
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: number thirty of culture. Your tennis arm is the one

981
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: you swing the club. That's like, that's like a sort

982
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: of Nancy Karagan type thing. It was a big wait,

983
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to return to this because I can't

984
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: believe we just talked about Tanya Harding and Nancy Karagan

985
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: without talking about mark film that's coming out I Tanya.

986
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: It's called IM and it's stars Margot Robbie and Allison

987
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: Janny as the mother, and I'm hearing it's basically dropped

988
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: it gorgeous on steroids, which I'm here for. And also

989
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: I'm getting different accounts of it, so like I'm reading

990
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: a lot of First of all, I cannot wait to

991
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: see this movie. I'm so down for You don't even know,

992
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: are you man? Different account about whether' not Margot Robie

993
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: thought Harding was a fictional character, okay. Also I want

994
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: to get Margot Robbie off the hook for this, okay, Yeah,

995
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: because like you were just saying, she is from might

996
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: have missed it. She's from a different country. I'll never

997
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: from different countries that I'll never let anyone off the hook.

998
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the Olympics, it's an international event, so

999
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: who knows she's she's our age. I know about the

1000
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: Canadians who are no Russians who I guess I don't

1001
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: know the Russians. Controversy the Canadians Canadian Russian Canadian? Is

1002
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: that okay? But it wasn't on the level of Tanya

1003
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: and all. I mean, it was a controversy in its

1004
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: own right, but it wasn't one one's crazy, stupid husband

1005
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: trying to break the other one's knee right after a practice.

1006
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: So it's insane. But the different accounts I'm hearing are

1007
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: that it's a good and like jamat Lee potent and

1008
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: humanizes her, or that it's like a crazy ass can't

1009
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: can't be asked characterization of her where that like weirdly

1010
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: asked you to be on her side. But I'm down.

1011
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm down for either or. All I know is that

1012
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: Tanya Harding was happy with it. They said the director

1013
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: and Margot were being interviewed and they said that she

1014
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: was quote great during the process and it was she

1015
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: was shown the movie and that she was pleased with that.

1016
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's pleased, Like she's getting like all this

1017
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: attention again. Yeah, she that was was always the goal, honey.

1018
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: She wanted to be out from eighth place and up

1019
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: up and wanted and she wanted to sell her life. Right,

1020
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: it's honey, But it's not attention that she wants. Well,

1021
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I mean, she wanted any attention. That's

1022
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: why she was so fascinating. She cried when she was

1023
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: doing her performance and was like, have you seen the

1024
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: thirty It's the documentary that a lot of this is

1025
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 1: based on that. It's a crazy you have to tim

1026
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: if you love you have to go watch. I think

1027
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: it's like on Netflix or something. It's a thirty for thirty,

1028
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: which is like an ESPN documentary series based in sports.

1029
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: But this one about Tanya Harding and Nanty Karagan is amazing.

1030
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: It's like modern day interviews with Tanya and she's basically

1031
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: looking at the camera like it took everything from me

1032
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: all I wanted to do all my life. I took

1033
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: it all, my mother, my husband, And it's so you

1034
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: don't know what to believe because she's like, of course

1035
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know, but she's so like she's so worn

1036
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: down by the years that you're like, I don't know

1037
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: what to believe. That that was in a desperate situation.

1038
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: There you go right there. That is why that story

1039
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: is huge and important and it's fascinating because like just

1040
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: just just that effect, that that effect of that event

1041
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: on her life, huge dramatic shake experience every time. Yeah,

1042
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: it is sha experience and that's why they call it Tanya.

1043
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: But also think of this, and I will advocate for

1044
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: Tanya for this for a second. She's head and shoulders

1045
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: the most talented skater there. She was the first to

1046
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: do the harding. She was the best apparently, I don't know.

1047
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: I don't have like the tape in front of me,

1048
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: but she was the first woman to ever complete the

1049
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: triple axel on the ice. It was and and Margot says,

1050
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: like they're doing they were shooting the movie, and she

1051
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we'll just get a double to come

1052
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: in and do the triple axel. And then everyone on

1053
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: set that was like tasked with that was like, no,

1054
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: you don't understand, Like, there's really very few people in

1055
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: the world that can actually do that, and you can't

1056
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: get them to come here and do it and look

1057
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: like you, I mean, like that is wild. And it's

1058
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: so funny that the narrative that ended up taking hold

1059
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: was that she's like was white trash and that she

1060
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: was poor and like and you like, that's what you remember,

1061
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: and you don't remember that she was this amazingly skilled

1062
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: figure skater. Well, because they grade also based on presentation, right,

1063
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: and that's why. And also when she was in the

1064
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: actual competition, she was very bad, Like I remember being

1065
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: like Nancy Kerrigan was unfucking believable. Like I remember watching

1066
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: her and just being like, Wow, she is powering through

1067
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: this knee injury, and I thought she did a trip axel.

1068
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that she ever did it. I know

1069
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: that Tanya was definitely the first. That's see I flip

1070
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: flop so much that I just I don't remember which

1071
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: one it was, but I do remember now whose side?

1072
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: Tell us um Oxana Bayol. I'm sorry, ox who that

1073
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: was a trick question. Beat Nancy Carrian, I'm pretty sure

1074
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: for the gold and you were supposed to say Michelle Kwan.

1075
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: I love Michelle. I had a Michelle Quan poster as well,

1076
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: and she was All of these women had the most

1077
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: incredible outfits and they would just they would dance mistake

1078
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: to this music. They were all honestly all of us.

1079
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: Even a little later, I was still into like Tara

1080
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: Lepinski and the Michelle is I'm going to say it,

1081
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 1: the Hill, every Clinton if that you're skating. Never got

1082
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: the gold, never had the moment. She deserved the moment

1083
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: she deserved because she was I'll never forget watching Sarah

1084
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: Hughes win the gold medal and they just horrible haircut,

1085
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: don't yeah, But she deserved it. I mean, she was turning,

1086
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: she was incredible. But I remember they just cut to

1087
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: a closed door and she she obviously like the vibe

1088
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: was that she was. It was such a Michelle Kwan

1089
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: fan that I like truly couldn't handle. I was happy

1090
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: for Sara who was because that was truly amazing skating.

1091
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: But I want a Michell Kwan by a pick now,

1092
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: constant swu, hell yea, make it happen, hell yeah, and

1093
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Michelle Kwan campaign for Hillary, because you know what, it's

1094
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: the same narrative. These women who work so far who

1095
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: do not get what they so desperately deserve. Michelle Kwan,

1096
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, Alexis, Michelle, You're a monster. You Alexis is great.

1097
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: We've come a drag and she looked fucking flawless. She

1098
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: looks great. A dragon. Okay, here's the thing, a little tea.

1099
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: Can we share this tea? Share the thing we we did? Yeah,

1100
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: this is they reached out to us to moderate a panel.

1101
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, not even moderate. I think it was

1102
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: to be on a panel or moderate something. We were

1103
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: options as moderators. And then they reached back out and

1104
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: they said that they're programming changed, but we'll be like

1105
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: pass like these passing. We said of course, and then

1106
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: it just the weekend went by and it was just

1107
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: one of those weekends where we were just like, oh,

1108
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: there's a million other things going on. I'm not gonna

1109
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: go all the way to the Javit Center, like you

1110
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: know what, you know what I read and I went

1111
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: and I went to the one in l A. And

1112
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: it's it's great, it's wonderful. It's just, I mean it's

1113
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: very transparent that it's just like, which is cool, Like

1114
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: you're not you're not trying to spend the money to

1115
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: take those pictures with those queens and like we are

1116
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: gonna do comedy with those queens or we have already,

1117
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: so it's welling. Yeah, yeah, you know them where you

1118
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: meet them. I'm not going to pay sixty dollars to

1119
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: take a picture with Shay you love you to death.

1120
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: But who is your queen for the people? For Tim,

1121
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: Bob the drag queen is like her, hands down, without

1122
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: a doubt, my absolute favorite. Agree and even and Bob

1123
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: and Bob and I got a little Twitter tip, but

1124
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: I still did get in the Twitter. I mean it

1125
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: wasn't even a tip. I mean Bob was just you know,

1126
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: like Bob was wrong. But Bob was a little salty,

1127
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: and I was just like, well, here's here's how I feel,

1128
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: here's where I'm coming from. And it was fine, and

1129
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: like I love Bob to death. Still Bob is one

1130
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: of my number one. Um oh, here's here's a little thing.

1131
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: Someone um, some some queen on on Facebook was like

1132
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: l O l at shake whole charging sixty dollars for

1133
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: a photo but RuPaul charging fifty. She's like, girl, who

1134
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: who the fund? Do you think you are charging more

1135
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: than RuPaul? It was like that. Every everyone head drag

1136
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: Con was talking about it. Every person you walked by

1137
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: was like, but in shade, I will say, in shads defense,

1138
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: she had a full like queens like Skol and um Kim.

1139
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 1: She and somebody else had like not only the look,

1140
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: but the book, like the booth was an experience and

1141
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: it was almost like going into a haunted house, like

1142
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: it was that cool. But yeah, I mean more than

1143
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: Taylor was charging five bucks in a dick pick. And

1144
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: I walked into the Dragon. Somebody grabs me and goes,

1145
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: Trinity is here, and I go, oh my god, oh

1146
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: my god. The Trinity was Trinity at Dragon. No merch

1147
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: for me? Whoa Because you know what because this is

1148
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: what I hear. Um Ruby Ruby told us this. Remember

1149
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: at night Saip, she was like, yeah, a lot of

1150
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: queens don't do drag because the booth feet is insane

1151
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: to open. It's crazy, it's a fucking it's it's like

1152
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: a bat hate. Wait, I've heard your queens on here before.

1153
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: Did you be is what you said? Oh yeah, like

1154
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: like like Matt and I are, did you be in

1155
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: Raven and Raven was Raven yours or you know the

1156
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: queen of my heart? Yeah, I mean I feel very

1157
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: close to list. All of us would agree a list.

1158
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yeah, Um Caughtia for all of seven.

1159
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: But then like since then, I've I've I've sort of

1160
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: hopped off that a little bit. Bob is just like

1161
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: someone who like we would go see and like we

1162
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: saw like the full arc of Bob and like that

1163
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: is so cool. I think that for me, Alyssa is

1164
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: everything I want in that Like she she's just I

1165
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know she there's she's that unexplainable quality like she's

1166
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: just went to the look queen and saw her. Recently,

1167
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: after all sorts, I did a thing with Alaska and

1168
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: then then literally for This was the week of Drag

1169
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: Queens for me, of all starts to drag Queens. The

1170
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: next week, she was at Look Queen Preston and I

1171
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: went and I'm telling you, I have never and never

1172
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: will again be at any show like that in my life.

1173
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: Tammy Speks was standing next to me and she grabbed

1174
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: me and she was like, I'm so glad we got

1175
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: to go to a Beyonce concert together, because that's what

1176
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: it felt like. She was performing the house down, so

1177
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: funny on the mike, kept yelling at the DJ to

1178
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: play some better music, and it was so funny and

1179
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: just was like offering free drinks to everyone in the

1180
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: bar and then the bar tender will be like, you

1181
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: can't do that, and what to say to me? Like

1182
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: it was the best? Is one of those people who

1183
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: and this kind of goes back to your thing about

1184
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: like something just like opening up. I mean like before

1185
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: she was self aware, like would never have done this.

1186
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: Now that she knows her power and her humor and

1187
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: her spirit, like everything is happening for her. It's so cool.

1188
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: Before we move on, told wait, I want to do

1189
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: something special, So Tim, I want to do two things special.

1190
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: Here we go, Tim just released the video called is

1191
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: it when You're a Kelly Clarkson Supervan? Correct, when you're

1192
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: a Kelly Clarkson super fan. So talk to me about

1193
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are on the New Kelly. I'm obsessed

1194
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: with New Kelly. I have never heard lyrics that bad

1195
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: in my life, and yet I think it's incredible music,

1196
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: so so good, and I popped to it everywhere that

1197
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm going. I think the whole album is going to

1198
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: be on fire. I have to. So she played the

1199
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: whole album for Entertainment Weekly I guess and they wrote

1200
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: up can Here's seven songs that are gonna be like

1201
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: New Kelly Carson Classics. From the album, there is a

1202
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: quote Whitney Houston esque ballad called I Don't Think About You,

1203
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: which is the breakup ballad for all time. I heard

1204
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: that it is based on her leaving r CA records,

1205
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: but it's written in the style of like I'm leaving

1206
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: you forever and guess what, I don't think about you

1207
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: pick me up off the floor because I am completely yeah,

1208
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: I can't wait. And apparently she this is the song

1209
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: that quote shows off her range, as if all the

1210
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: other songs aren't doing that, that this is the one

1211
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: that shows off her range. That's incredible. Did they say

1212
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: did they say, didn't I would be one of those songs? Didn't.

1213
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't even on the list and didn't I sounds amazing.

1214
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: Roman to Tuta was like tweeting out from the Rainbow

1215
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: Room where they held like a big party for her

1216
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: on the day that the two songs came out and

1217
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: the album announcement was made. The Rainbow Room in New

1218
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: York like had a big party for her and she

1219
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: played like seven songs. She played six songs from the

1220
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: new album and walk Away, which she's been performing walk

1221
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: Away a lot because I think it's she thinks it

1222
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: fits with her new sound. It's like an old song

1223
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: that she has that she thinks fits in with what

1224
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: she's doing. The t that she's spilling about our c

1225
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: A is fucking piping hot read that I didn't read.

1226
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: So basically, basically, she was a co writer on My

1227
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: Life Would Suck Without You, but they gave it to Martin. No.

1228
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: This is right after My December, which was her album

1229
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: that she wanted to do for her that they das

1230
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: was like, we're not promoting it, and she They're like,

1231
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: learn your lesson. You want to make no money, you

1232
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: want people that work to work few to make no money,

1233
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 1: then do what you're doing. And then she said okay, fine,

1234
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: and all I ever wanted was kind of like her

1235
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: Red Flag album, like okay, she said one thing, she said,

1236
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to work with Dr Luke. She said,

1237
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: I'll work with anyone else. Don't make me work with him,

1238
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: literally no one but this person. The very first single,

1239
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: they're like, you're gonna work with Dr Luke, she says,

1240
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to work with Dr Luke. They forced

1241
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: her to do it, are they are? They told her

1242
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: they wouldn't release her album because I think she had

1243
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: a very bad experience recording. Since you've been gone with him,

1244
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: I have a feeling he was verbally abusive towards her

1245
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: in the studio. That's like where that's like the t

1246
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: that I'm here, Bernard ci a down Barry Dr Luke

1247
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: in the words of Matt Rodgers, Barry Clive Davis. But

1248
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: she bury Barry Dr Luke. Clive Davis is a fucking

1249
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: is seating himself, I think, and I think he's one

1250
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: of the reasons. Why wouldn't he is dead? Thank yo? Um,

1251
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: but the fact is Kelly and I don't share to

1252
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: look like Kelly like changed a lot of lyrics to

1253
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: my life would suck without you and deserve the writing credit.

1254
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: And they said, so do you want to writing credit?

1255
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: And she said, I don't want my name near his.

1256
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: She said, I don't care how much money I'm gonna lose.

1257
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: They can have it as much as they want. She's like,

1258
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: I want to send a message to the people that

1259
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: work that work with me that this is not what's

1260
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: important to me. She was this that they made her

1261
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: do that. And then she also got sucked over on

1262
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: that album because Ryan Tedder was using like identical tracks

1263
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: already hal and Halo and Yonce's Halo, Yeah, Beyonce's Halo,

1264
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: which of course is henceforth known as Beyonce's Halo, just

1265
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: to make a distinction that it was that like, Ryan

1266
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: Tedder basically had the same core progression, same melodies were

1267
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: already Gone and Halo and a lot of his other songs. Yeah.

1268
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: If honestly, if you've listen to a lot of US

1269
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: One Republic's Ryan Tedder, I was like, well, he's a

1270
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: talented musician. There's nothing to do with that. But a

1271
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: lot of those songs sound the same. It's like these

1272
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: mid tempo mega ballads um And she also got sucked

1273
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: over on that song and was public about it at

1274
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: the time, so she's been very unhappy for a long time.

1275
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: So it's cool that those videos you were showing me

1276
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: of hert was showing me the videos of her doing

1277
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: stuff live and the like. Yeah, she's really does look

1278
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: because she's able to dress and act and do the

1279
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: things she wanted. Because she also said recently in interview

1280
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: that at r c A they had like every major

1281
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: female vocalist, like Sony r c A, which is the

1282
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: whole company. They had like Beyondest, Christina Guilera, Alicia Keys,

1283
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: they had like everybody, Pink everyone, And she said the

1284
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: way she says it is she always wanted to make

1285
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: an album where she was singing like soul or urban music,

1286
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: but they would never let her because they didn't want

1287
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: her to compete with other people they had on the

1288
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: roster that did that. So she was always there, quote

1289
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: unquote pop rock girl, so they wouldn't she always like

1290
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: made the same music Like since U Bengal was followed

1291
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: by My Life, I took with that you was followed

1292
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: by Strong Girl, was followed by you know all these

1293
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: kind of rock pop rock pop rock songs, and she

1294
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: was never allowed to do anything different. Meanwhile, if you

1295
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: see her live or see any of her live performances,

1296
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,879
Speaker 1: that she she just does so many more things everything,

1297
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: So you know what, that's huge And and just hearing

1298
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: you talk about Kelly and the way in depth it

1299
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: makes me so excited for them. Well, there's gonna be

1300
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: a lot of that because October the album comes out,

1301
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: and you know that I'm going to be promoting it. Yes,

1302
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: because that's my friends, that's different, that's your friend, that's

1303
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: my dear friends. I can't wait for you to meet

1304
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: her someday. I really want to be here and something

1305
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: I am manifesting it. I want to meet her during

1306
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: this albums like a promotion somehow I think it will happen.

1307
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: I want and yeah, we you will. You will meet

1308
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson clarkson this album cycle what is it called

1309
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: Meaning of life? Called Meaning of Life? Of life? And

1310
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: I want to do one other thing. So tonight the

1311
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: Emmies are on, so this will air on Wednesday. So

1312
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: I want us all to guess what will win some Awards.

1313
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: It's real close. It's real close this year, and I

1314
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: want to and we'll see who wins. And that person

1315
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: will buy the drinks. Oh, that person who will buy

1316
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: the drinks at Tammy Spanks on Sunday. This is a gag,

1317
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: the legendary venue and Tammy is following in some very

1318
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: big footsteps and she will fill she will fill those

1319
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: shoes with a plum. You guys don't even understand. I've

1320
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: never seen a drag show where I was just like, oh,

1321
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: every single song is exactly the song I want to

1322
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: hear right now. She is, She go does log rolls

1323
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: into the audience. It's she's so funny, phenomenal. Saw her

1324
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: perform in the Cherry Grove this summer so great. She

1325
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: did my comedy show, Drag Court. She was phenomenal. She

1326
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: is really a consummate professional and so talented. Let's talk

1327
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: best drama series. So I'm just gonna say the ones

1328
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 1: that have a shot at winning, which is not House

1329
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:42,799
Speaker 1: of Cards and better call Saul so West World, Stranger Things,

1330
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 1: the Crown, that's a limited series, and there is Handmaid's Tale,

1331
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: and you're saying, I think you're saying it's Stranger Things,

1332
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: you're leading towards straight Well, I have a feeling that

1333
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: Stranger Things is gonna win. Yeah, I'm actually, do we

1334
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: have to compete with you? Or can we agree? You

1335
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: can agree. I've really want Strando Things to win, so

1336
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna also assume that too. I think Stranger Things,

1337
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: maybe Handmad's Tale is the biggest company. But Manna saying this,

1338
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this applies to the show overall,

1339
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: but Manna sing with with the Best Actress in a

1340
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: Drama Series category, Elizabeth Moss is not going to get

1341
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 1: those votes because of the whole Scientology. I think people

1342
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: are sensing a lot of hypocrisy in her, and that's

1343
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: not gonna rub buff Well, despite the fact that she

1344
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: is very overdue for an Emmy because she went all

1345
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: those hours without winning, and she probably does deserve to win.

1346
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: But I just don't think people are down for the

1347
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: Scientology thing anymore, especially because La Remedies show one. I

1348
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: think it's like a statement to be like, I'm going

1349
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: to vote against this Scientology. It's an interesting category because

1350
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: West World has the most nominations of any show. It's

1351
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: tie with SNL, and that would ordinarily mean like that

1352
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: people would want that that would be the one to win.

1353
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: But also there's the Crown, which like a lot of

1354
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: people like and a lot of people feel like Netflix

1355
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: is due for a win, and it's like the prestige

1356
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: kind of royal show that usually does well at awards.

1357
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: I think, quick tangent, do you guys miss the time

1358
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: when we all were watching the same thing? Yeah, of course, yeah,

1359
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: you all had like the one. I This is maybe

1360
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: an insane thing to say, but I think this type

1361
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: of thing has a lot to do with the election

1362
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: to tie it all in that we like have our

1363
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: generation is so used to having everything so catered to us,

1364
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: down to our TV shows that they were like no Bernie,

1365
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: no Hillary, no Trump, no no, no no no, uh

1366
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna pick Jill Stein because like their version of like

1367
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: like you can cater what comes in your new speed,

1368
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: You can cater what you look at an Instagram, You

1369
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: cater what TV shows you watch, Like everything is so

1370
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: individualized that we deserve. We shouldn't have to conform to

1371
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: two parties we should like And I just think it's

1372
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: so nuts it is. It's a very millennial thing. Um.

1373
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing I do miss

1374
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: those days. Sudie Green is at the Emmys right now,

1375
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: and she sent a picture of her dress and can

1376
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 1: you red? She looks so sad. She's wearing this amazing

1377
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: red dress. Um, she looks incredible. She she looks like

1378
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: Alaska and her perfume commercial. Um. Alright, okay, this is

1379
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: this is huge. It seems like you've got one prepared.

1380
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: I sort of have one. Um, So how about you

1381
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: go first, Matt, and I'll time you. Okay, I will

1382
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: go first. And this is, of course, I don't think so, honey.

1383
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: This is the big old um, big old thing and show. Yeah,

1384
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: and Tim Murray has slayed before and he will probably

1385
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: slay again. But first me. Here we go first, Matt Rodgers.

1386
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey.

1387
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The modern

1388
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: renaissance of horror movies, bitch, I am not gonna be

1389
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: squealing and squirming and chirpman watching these movies. It that

1390
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: is not it. I am not going in there. The

1391
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: first time I saw that clown, I said this, I

1392
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: and funked up about that cloud. Now I HiT's ripping

1393
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: off kids arms, dragging them under eating them. No fucking

1394
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: thank you. I don't like scary mother exclamation point. I

1395
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. How about a question mark? How

1396
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: about a question mark at the end of Mother Mother?

1397
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I answered that with a no

1398
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,799
Speaker 1: answer that question. No, I don't like to be afraid.

1399
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: How about this Happy Death Day? No, bitch, I don't

1400
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 1: want to watch a girl die again and again. I

1401
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. And I know what's gonna do

1402
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: well because guess what. All these teens are figuring out

1403
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: that horror movies make them come and I'm not into it. Bitch,

1404
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: Stop it, Get your hands off each other's crotches, go home,

1405
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: watch a kind comedy with Sanda that you don't. I

1406
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: don't go to see Happy Death Day and we're gonna

1407
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: love it. I think it better be comical. I think

1408
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: it'll better be scary and funny like Scream. It'll be.

1409
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: I think it'll be scary and fun like Scream. Not

1410
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: necessarily funny, but fun and teens teens coming to horror movies,

1411
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: that's where they go, all right, that's where the teens go.

1412
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: This is I don't think so, honey, and his time

1413
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey, and forgive the

1414
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: basicness of the of this the emt A. Bitch. Today

1415
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,839
Speaker 1: I had to go meet Tim Murray and Henry Koperski

1416
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: for something I was so excited to do, to help

1417
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,839
Speaker 1: them with their their video, and it took me fifty

1418
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: five minutes for what should have been a twenty minute commute. Bitch,

1419
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, the m t A. This

1420
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: was the longest commute in my fifty seven fucking years

1421
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: in this garbage city. It was horrible. I hated every

1422
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: minute of it was sweaty, all the lines were down,

1423
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: every line, every line. And honey, I took the bus

1424
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: today too. I did. I did the stuff. We had

1425
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: the bus, honey, Yes that's right, m t A. You

1426
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 1: cannot don't poke holes in this because I took every

1427
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 1: single vertical in your stupid, stupid umbrella. And I hated

1428
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: every minute of the bus. I hated every minute time, Traine,

1429
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: you better get your act together. I go to Europe

1430
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: and it's a it's such a better experience. I go

1431
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: to Asia, forget it, it's amazing. M t A. You

1432
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: have a lot of catching up today. And Cuomo, you

1433
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: better fucking make do right by us. That's one minute como.

1434
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: You better do right by us, okay, and you better

1435
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: be a right man. You better be a do right

1436
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: man because you know what. Oh god, And I know

1437
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: that it's so boring to on the m t A,

1438
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: but they deserve every word of hate that comes their way.

1439
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: Today it was crazy and that was I felt so

1440
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: bad for you because like we didn't care all but

1441
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: everyone was roblem. I had a fucking actually really good

1442
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: experience today. Okay, whatever, Matt, Now you were late to this.

1443
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Three minutes late? Three minutes

1444
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: of my life I'll never get back. This is Tim

1445
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: Murray's I don't think so, honey, and his time it starts. No,

1446
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. People who slide into my

1447
01:17:55,240 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: d m s to ask about my friend, you are

1448
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: sliding into my dms. Honey. You better be talking about me, honey.

1449
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: You better be talking about how handsome I am. Honey.

1450
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: You better be talking about how funny I am. Honey.

1451
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: You better be donating a hundred dollars to my Patriot

1452
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 1: account so that I can make more comedy videos Patreon. Honey,

1453
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: you're a garbage honey. If you're doing that, honey, and

1454
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: you what. You look at my Instagram, you see a

1455
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: conventionally hot guys. You click on his link, and then

1456
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: you go to his pain and you see him shirt list,

1457
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: and you think that's hot, honey, funny, it's hot, honey.

1458
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 1: Oh you're You're not attracting me because I'm posting pictures

1459
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: of me in wigs, Honey. Funk off, honey. Gay men

1460
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: in comedy and women in comedy are not here to

1461
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: be your clowns, honey. We are fully realized sexual beings, honey.

1462
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not your trash and I'm not going to

1463
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: get I'm not going to have my friend take you

1464
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: out because we already did the chores this week. Honey.

1465
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: You don't need me to get late, honey, because you

1466
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: can go fuck yourself. Wow, amazing button. You might be iconic.

1467
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: You might wait, well, I hang in the All Stars

1468
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame with with Pat Regan and the next

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, And there might be a little

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Speaker 1: format switch ap real quick before before we sign off.

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Speaker 1: I have to get sentimental on you both for a

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Speaker 1: lame moment. I don't think that the listeners if you

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Speaker 1: haven't been I don't think so, Honey Live, You've gotta

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey Live. Part one was the

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Speaker 1: week leading up to it was the worst week of

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Speaker 1: my entire life. I like, I don't even want to

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Speaker 1: fully get into it, but basically, like dark dark, dark

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Speaker 1: Ship was happening, everything that was happening, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep this one thing because I just

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Speaker 1: need like one moment to like take my mind off

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Speaker 1: what's going on in my personal life. And I went

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Speaker 1: to that show, and when I die, I will think

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Speaker 1: about like the happiest moments of my life and being

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Speaker 1: on that stage and like you guys, scirting me with

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Speaker 1: water is one of them. That and seeing a Dina

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Speaker 1: Manzelle this very day, and I was gonna write you

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Speaker 1: both a handwritten think you know about what it meant

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Speaker 1: to me. My god, literally you should have done that.

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Speaker 1: You should have really done that. It's called what Happened. No,

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Speaker 1: don't hold that book up, um, tim No, you weren't

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Speaker 1: phenomenal and truly that just that just warms our hearts. Um.

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Speaker 1: And you're bringing joy to the kids, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for that. And we're listening and we are so excited

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Speaker 1: that you are making as much stuff as you are,

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Speaker 1: and you always bring my You lift my day up

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Speaker 1: whenever I see Yes, I really truly adore you both.

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Speaker 1: You've had such a positive impact on my life. It's true.

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Speaker 1: We are crying, he we are crying over there. We

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Speaker 1: are crying everywhere. We are crying. We are crying there.

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Speaker 1: We are crying every right everywhere. Were you right? We're

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Speaker 1: c This is classic Teresa's podcast. My name is Matteolios.

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Speaker 1: My name is We Love you Bye. This has been

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Speaker 1: a Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay,

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Speaker 1: and Brett Boum. For more podcasts, please visit for Rever

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