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Speaker 1: Fish Unfiltered, Episode forty five. We are back and we

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Speaker 1: have back to back weeks of episodes because of how

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Speaker 1: packed the trade deadline, not only the trade headline has been,

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Speaker 1: but the content we have to cover. Here, we're with

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Speaker 1: my co host Isaac Hazud, and we have the Fish

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Speaker 1: on first founder Eli Sussman here with us.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about our Top thirty list, which

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's been made it's been made public yet,

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Speaker 1: but we're just going to talk about the switches that

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Speaker 1: we made to it. A There's a lot of revision,

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Speaker 1: and I will say it was one of the harder

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Speaker 1: lists that we've had to kind of revise just with

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Speaker 1: how poor the farm system is, you know, to right now.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously Miami come up coming off a very disappointing

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Speaker 1: getting too, So Isaac, what's up. Very crucial series coming

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Speaker 1: up from Miami tomorrow. We're recording this on Thursday, so

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Speaker 1: I guess this is being posted on the day of

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Speaker 1: the series. So just a lot, you know, big series

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Speaker 1: and your thoughts on the horrible six game road trip.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Hi, Kevin, how are you? We are recording this

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, July twentieth. The Marlins currently said eight games

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Speaker 2: over five hundred after, you know, finishing up a brutal

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Speaker 2: and there are only nine games left until the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: I have that correct nine games, So unless Miami loses

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Speaker 2: seven or eight of these next nine games, I think

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Speaker 2: sell I do have some interesting ideas if they do

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be some critical games from Miami, especially

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Speaker 2: this week against the Rockies. You have to win that series.

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Speaker 2: There's no ifn or butts about it. You have to

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Speaker 2: the decision a lot easier to add pieces. And also

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Speaker 2: Miami's farm system, like I said, it's not like Kevin said,

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Speaker 2: it's not in the greatest situation anyway, So there's not

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Speaker 2: many pieces in that farm system that are eligible to

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Speaker 2: be traded that I would mind giving up. Right now

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Speaker 2: So we'll get into that soon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as we get this past week, it has raised

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Speaker 3: all sorts of concerns about all these areas of the

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Speaker 3: team that are underperforming, kind of at the same time

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Speaker 3: making bringing up the idea of adding here and there

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Speaker 3: and there and there, and I think the reality is

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Speaker 3: that they're simply not going to have the assets to

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Speaker 3: at this deadline, which is it's not the deepest crop

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Speaker 3: of selling players that are available on the market. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: things are a lot easier if they perform well or

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Speaker 3: at least in certain aspects of their team performed well

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Speaker 3: in and improve along the way. Yeah, as long as

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Speaker 3: the results are really critical at this time of year.

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Speaker 3: It was about as poor road trip as you could want,

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Speaker 3: you know, no new severe injuries, and to be honest,

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Speaker 3: every game, maybe with the exception of that Sunday game

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Speaker 3: So I am not quite as blown away by the

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Speaker 4: Especially next weekend as well.

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Speaker 1: And it really felt like there were some games to

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Speaker 1: Miami should have taken. I think we could really look

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Speaker 3: Back and one percentage point one percentage point behind the

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Speaker 4: At this point of the season entering this season, not.

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Speaker 3: Too panicky yet, and they have big reinforcements on the horizon,

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Speaker 3: It's still to me, it's still an extremely exciting time

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Speaker 3: for this team. They just need to stop the skid

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Speaker 1: I think what really helped Miami was the fact that

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Speaker 1: for example, the you know, the Royals, the Athletics, even

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Speaker 1: They're very much in it. I mean, you look at

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Speaker 1: you know we're looking right now at the market. You

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Speaker 2: they won all these games in the first half. You know,

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Speaker 2: it that way. You that's your money. They had these games,

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Speaker 2: and just because you won a bunch of the first half,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't make it any better that you're losing these

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Speaker 2: winnable ball games, especially in the Saint Louis series, the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Orioles. They are a World Series contender. There's no

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Speaker 2: to play, espelicily for this Marlin's team. And boy, I

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Speaker 1: So hot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are hot. And the third two corner infielders

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Speaker 2: Like I tweeted out, Nolan Ronado is an officially a

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Speaker 2: The reason why it was so great that they were

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Speaker 2: which is what they're on pace to do if they

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a big, big week, big week coming up,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and do I don't know if you know obviously

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Padres, it's looking like they're unlikely to sell.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, the Cubs, I think they will sell.

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Speaker 2: And that'll bring me to my first just main point

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Speaker 2: And obviously they need pitching, pitching pitching, a starter and

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Speaker 2: no further than the Chicago Cubs outfield or Cody Bellinger. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he and Branton Brown did not have the best relationship.

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Speaker 2: That is something that I have heard, and that is

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Speaker 2: maybe something a reason why he didn't end up coming

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Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger, it would be an immense upgrade for this

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Speaker 4: Action to one.

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Speaker 2: Center fee.

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Speaker 1: How he took a risk, you know, the free agent market,

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Speaker 1: like he's playing like one hundred million dollar player right now,

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Speaker 1: and he is.

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Speaker 2: He really is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he was named to

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Speaker 1: he's playing really damn good right now for the Cubs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you bring him to Miami,

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Speaker 1: you bring a big bat into that middle of the order,

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Speaker 1: which is something this team really needs, especially.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what his situation is looking like. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, huge, very big news this morning. I'm glad we

437
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Speaker 2: were recording this today. Meyer. You're right it was four

438
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Speaker 2: point five significantly under slot and kemp Alderman one point

439
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Speaker 2: four million. I was also very much under slot, so

440
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Speaker 2: that they save some money there with their two guys

441
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Speaker 2: that you know are going to be maybe tougher to

442
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Speaker 2: sign and Thomas White and your boy Kevin Dietrich, who

443
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 2: has committed to FIU. From what you've told me, Kevin

444
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 2: looks like they don't know if he's going to sign.

445
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: He looks like he's leaning towards going back to FIU.

446
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: But it he saved a lot of money. As Eli

447
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 2: and I were talking about before the stream, they've saved

448
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Speaker 2: a good amount of money and would be able to

449
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 2: offer him seven figures, which in you know, eighteen year

450
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Speaker 2: old going to FIU or turning down one million dollars

451
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Speaker 2: is going to be very tough in my opinion to do.

452
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Speaker 2: You can go to college and get hurt, you can

453
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Speaker 2: go to college and not performance. It would be a

454
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Speaker 2: very tough decision in my opinion to turn down professionally

455
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Speaker 2: signing bonus that size. Thomas White. I think they're gonna

456
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Speaker 2: need a lot of money as well for him. I

457
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Speaker 2: don't know what the map is how much money they

458
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Speaker 2: have for those two players. Maybe you like can can

459
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Speaker 2: brush yourself.

460
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Speaker 3: We're waiting on the confirmation about third rounder brock of

461
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Speaker 3: Radenberg's bonus, but assuming he's anywhere around the slat value,

462
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Speaker 3: you're looking at four point eight million dollars in wiggle

463
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Speaker 3: room for just Thomas White and Tristan Dietrich. Now most

464
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Speaker 3: of that is going to go do Thomas White. He

465
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Speaker 3: his slat value is what two point four million, it's

466
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Speaker 3: half of that amount, and they took him knowing that

467
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Speaker 3: he would go well above slot. I think the easiest

468
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Speaker 3: way to explain this is that Nobel Meyer and Thomas

469
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Speaker 3: White aren't dramatically different prospects, like they are the top

470
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Speaker 3: two prep pitchers in this draft class, and so they Meyer.

471
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Speaker 3: I think this prize was how far Meyer went below

472
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Speaker 3: his slot value, because I think most people valued him

473
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Speaker 3: right around the tenth best overall prospect in this draft.

474
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Speaker 3: He goes with the tenth slot. So I don't know

475
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Speaker 3: exactly how the Marlins did that magic made him feel

476
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Speaker 3: that they had leverage to push him down significantly below

477
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Speaker 3: that number. They did, and that makes it just even

478
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Speaker 3: easier to bring Thomas White a little closer to that

479
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: number as well. He was valued as a first rounder,

480
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Speaker 3: so they'll give him mid first round money, which will

481
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Speaker 3: be we'll find out exactly what they'll be somewhere in

482
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Speaker 3: that three to four million dollar range and what they

483
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: have left over for that should be going to Dietrich

484
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Speaker 3: and will he immediately. I think as soon as they

485
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Speaker 3: drafted him, he came out publicly and he said that

486
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Speaker 3: he was planning to go to FIU, and we continue

487
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Speaker 3: to hear that he's planning to go to college and

488
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Speaker 3: honor his commitment and forego signing right now. It's going

489
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Speaker 3: to be very tempting because the comparison here is looking

490
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Speaker 3: at last year with a Arnolds took a late round

491
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Speaker 3: flyer on Evan Crest, who was committed to Jacksonville University,

492
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: had about seven hundred grants to offer him and he

493
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Speaker 3: turned that down in order to go to school.

494
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Speaker 2: One year in.

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Speaker 4: That's actually looking pretty good.

496
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Speaker 3: He had a really outstanding freshman year for them, and

497
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Speaker 3: so he is on a trajectory to probably make more

498
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Speaker 3: money down the road. But that's a big if because

499
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: pitchers you just never know. You just never know if

500
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: they can stay healthy and how teams will change that

501
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: evaluation on him. Moving forward with Detrich, it seems like

502
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 3: they'll be able to offer him even more than they

503
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Speaker 3: did with Crest last year. So the signing deadline is Tuesday.

504
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 3: We'll just have to wait and see. They do have

505
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Speaker 3: some options to actually use that money. Even if he

506
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Speaker 3: doesn't sign, I think from what I'm aware of, they

507
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 3: can actually approach other prep players, other guys kind of

508
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: like him that went unsigned and overpay them as undrafted

509
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 3: free agents. That is an option that they have if

510
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: they've left over money to spend within their bonus pool

511
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: and their five percent overage if they want to. So

512
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Speaker 3: I think either way, they should be adding players to

513
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: this class beyond Thomas White, whether it is Detrich or

514
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 3: whether they have to, I'm sure they've aready done so

515
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: gone back to the drawing board and looked at who

516
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: else is available and can throw some more money at

517
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: them as well. So we will just a few days

518
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 3: away from getting a very clear picture of all this.

519
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: Do you think the thing with with Mayer getting under

520
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: that slot value is you know, he was maybe maybe

521
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: his camp was thinking he wasn't going to go as

522
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: high and then obviously every executive has their own board,

523
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: draft board, or you know, they make the kind of

524
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Speaker 1: they kind of play out the strategies, and they thought

525
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Speaker 1: he was not going to go at end, They thought

526
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Speaker 1: he was going to go maybe lower into draft. Do

527
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Speaker 1: you think that that is kind of what happened in

528
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Speaker 1: this case? And that's why Miami said, look, you weren't

529
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Speaker 1: supposed to go tend, but we were able to get you.

530
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: That's why we're offering you under slot. Do you think

531
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Speaker 1: that could be the case.

532
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: Lot that I think by kind of by a prossible elimination.

533
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 3: That's what we have to assume, is that how That's

534
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 3: how it played up, that they felt he was going

535
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Speaker 3: to fall if the Marlins didn't pick him, and they

536
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Speaker 3: figured it out. So this draft class, in the moments,

537
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: I remember us all being taken aback a little bit

538
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: by the decisions. In the aftermath, I think a lot

539
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: of us were kind of a little bit more favorable

540
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: to it. And this is why you just let the

541
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Speaker 3: process play out. Because if they are able to sign

542
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: all their draft picks, all twenty one of their draft picks,

543
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: this will be an excellent class, there's any way you

544
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Speaker 3: slice it. If they are able to get this done.

545
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: But the way that they've handled this money to just

546
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 3: bringing in a really deep group of players that have

547
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: a variety of different ways to become above average regulars

548
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Speaker 3: in the majors.

549
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Speaker 1: So speaking, you know, now that we kind of cover

550
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Speaker 1: the draft, I want to go into our top thirty list.

551
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Speaker 1: We made a lot of moves. I don't think we

552
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Speaker 1: made too many additions besides the guys from the draft.

553
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Speaker 1: So just to get to go in ELI, do you

554
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Speaker 1: have yeah perfect? Oh wait, that's wow.

555
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Speaker 2: That looks cool.

556
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't look like pipeline. It looks like pipeline list.

557
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Speaker 3: I use my magic to just put our names the

558
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Speaker 3: way that they have it. If you go, I guess

559
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 3: I could bring up the pipeline one if people want

560
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Speaker 3: to contrast it. They still have six too in the

561
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Speaker 3: top ten. To give me an idea how we do

562
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Speaker 3: things a little bit differently than MLB pipeline does. I

563
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: feel like this is respectfully, this is updated with I

564
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: think more Yeah, more recent and more meaningful observations about

565
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: these players. And so even though that is a resource

566
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Speaker 3: that is available publicly and it gets most people's attention

567
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: due to how long they've been added, we feel that

568
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Speaker 3: yeah are combined opinions. Here are our consensus top thirty.

569
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Speaker 3: I think this gives people a better idea of who

570
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Speaker 3: was you know, the players that we have the highest

571
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Speaker 3: hopes for in this organization, A combination of their ceilings

572
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Speaker 3: as players as well as you know, the likelihood of

573
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Speaker 3: them reaching that ceiling and as it has been the

574
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Speaker 3: last few years, at the very top pitching heavy, even

575
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: with Airy Pariz graduating from eligibility, we think that Noble

576
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: Meyer just squeaks out on top, immediately becoming the best

577
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: prospect that Tomorrowins have.

578
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Speaker 1: And that's where I started. This was this was the

579
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Speaker 1: first argument we had here between us three. Eli and

580
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: I thought Max Meyer should have been number one. So

581
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Speaker 1: that's that's where we're gonna start there. And then Isaac

582
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: thought Nobel Meyer should have been number should be number one.

583
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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure Isaac, you've you even thought Eater

584
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: should be over Meyer in this list, because we know

585
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: you're not the biggest Max Meyer fan here.

586
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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's let's start with Noble. Very sort of

587
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: similar pictures, Yeah, similar Arsenal's great sliders, great fastballs, And

588
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: I just think Noble edges out Meyer one because Meyer,

589
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: you know, he was a reliever for some of those

590
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: years in college. He is six foot uh, so I

591
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 2: think just Noble has more size, better stuff. I think

592
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: he's got a better fastball than Max. I think his

593
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: slider may be even a little bit better field here.

594
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Speaker 2: So I think with me, it was a very easy

595
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: decision to have nobel Meyer top that list. Max Meyer

596
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: just underwent Tommy John a year ago. He is throwing

597
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: bullpens now, so we should be seeing him at on point.

598
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: I think obviously he will be one hundred percent for

599
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: spring training in twenty twenty four. But yeah, nobel Meyer

600
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: to me run laps around mac Meyer. A little bit

601
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: of hyperbole there, but yeah, I think that was the

602
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: easy choice for the number one prospect in the system.

603
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: And then with Eeter. You know, our farm director Alex Carver,

604
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: he even says Eeter probably has a better slider than

605
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: Max two. I think Max meyer slider was was given

606
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: too much hype coming up, you know, in Double A

607
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: and Triple A and coming out of college. It's a

608
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: great pitch, don't get me wrong, but when you add

609
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: it up with a mediocre fastball, I would call it's

610
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: not going to fool many major league hitters. And so

611
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: Jake Eater, I think he's got more pitchability. I think

612
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: he's a left handed that left handed handed pitcher that

613
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: can throw decently hard. I think he's lost people will

614
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: come back a little bit. He's averaging ninety two ninety

615
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: three right now. But like I said, he's from the

616
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: left side, better slider, a bigger guy, and I think

617
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: both of those. I think he's got an argument to

618
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: be number two ahead of Max Meyer, but we compromised,

619
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Speaker 2: and Jake Eater sits at number three, right behind mister

620
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: Max Mayer. But to me, it's two way and two

621
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Speaker 2: be with Max and Jake. Yeah.

622
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Speaker 1: Eli, if you want to go ahead and kind of

623
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Meyer and Eater there that

624
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Speaker 1: that decision. Why why eventually you and I kind of

625
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: both gave it up and let Isaac have Noble Meyer

626
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Speaker 1: at the top of the list.

627
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

628
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: The reality is that I don't feel even though these

629
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: guys are vying for the top prospects spot, I don't

630
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: I don't feel great about any of them, to be

631
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: honest with you, and for Noble, it's more so just

632
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: about the proximity from the majors being as far as

633
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 3: possible as a player that his his stuff and his

634
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: projectability is exceptional. His experience is pitching in the Pacific

635
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: Northwest high school scene, like the quality competition he's faced

636
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: to this point in his life is just not remotely

637
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: comfortable to guys like Eater and Meyer that were both

638
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: great at the double A level, both of them great,

639
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: and then they underwent their Tommy John surgeries and Eater

640
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 3: head an additional set back on top of that. And

641
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: I feel like if we had confidence that Eater was

642
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: fully back to his pre injury hisself, and the same

643
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: with Max, then I would I would make because of

644
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: putting them both ahead of Noble. But the reality is

645
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: at this moment, neither of them are particularly close to

646
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: who they were before those injuries. With Eater, as I

647
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: just mentioned, the fastball is not what it previously was.

648
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: Only in his most recent start that I like see

649
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 3: he's made progress, he's inching towards I think being his

650
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: pre injury self. Overall, it's just the results kind of

651
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: I think sum it up pretty fairly to this point,

652
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: where he's been kind of just a guy.

653
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: He's a very averages guy.

654
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: He's not putting batters away the way that he used to,

655
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: and he's not generally from start to start. His command

656
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: is not what it was before his injury as well.

657
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: So we think that will come back eventually. We do,

658
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: but he is already both him and Max. It's the

659
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: clock is sticking where Meyer is already on the forty

660
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: man roster accruing major league service time, Eater is going

661
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 3: to be Rule five draft eligible this offseason, so they

662
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: have to put him on the forty.

663
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 4: Man of a sudden, you got to start.

664
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: That's to me, that is always a little factor that

665
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: goes into my prospect rankings is realizing that some of

666
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 3: these guys eventually and in somebody like six s though

667
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: being a very extreme case as a player that's about

668
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: to run out of options and hasn't pitched in years, Like,

669
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: if these guys don't aren't going to, by rule have

670
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: an extended leash to actually get settled in at the

671
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: big league level, then their likelihood of being successful in

672
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: the big leagues goes.

673
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 4: Down because of it.

674
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: So that all came into my mind, and I think

675
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: ultimately Noble's fresh slate and his very enticing tools, I

676
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: think that puts him ahead of those two that are

677
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: kind of slightly damaged goods at the moment.

678
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's gone. Oh no, no, all right, So

679
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not quite remembering it now. Did we

680
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: have Khloe Watson on our last list as the top

681
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: hitting prospect or was it or was it Barry?

682
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: No?

683
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: Right, I believe it was Campe slightly overall, those movements

684
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: aren't all that dramatic. I think if you want to

685
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: look at the rest of this ten, I think you

686
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: can make the case for pushing Arry even lower.

687
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: It's been.

688
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: It's been a really ugly season for him. Slightly more

689
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: productive as this year goes on than it wasn't the

690
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: originally in the beginning, but he's still a well below

691
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: average hitter at the high a level for somebody that

692
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: is so relying on his bat to be a productive

693
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: big leaguer. So I haven't listed as a first basement

694
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: dh in here, even though for the moment he's still

695
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: playing more.

696
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: Third base than first base.

697
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: And that's too is the Marlins are holding on to

698
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: that as as long as they can before kind of

699
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: just submitting to the reality that it's just a very

700
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: limited profile. He's going to have to simply be a

701
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: great contact hit or a great situation will hitter, and

702
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to show more power.

703
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: And to this point it.

704
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: Has been close to a realistic worst case scenario for

705
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: how this year has gone for this player or the upside.

706
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: I don't see what the upside realistically is that they is.

707
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: He's just still very new to pro ball, and his

708
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: college track right record was so extraordinary that you can't

709
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: entirely discount it to this point in the season. We

710
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: did lower him to eight. But out of all these players, yeah,

711
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 3: Jacob Berry is the one as a players in these

712
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 3: top ten, Berry is the one that I feel has

713
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: the lowest floor. I mean, this to me just doesn't

714
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: look what he's shown in professional games to this point

715
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: has been very disappointing.

716
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: And then the last player I want to mention in

717
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: this well two players, well, eh, I lie three, I

718
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: want to talk about Victor Mason Junior. He was not

719
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: in the top ten. I don't even think he was

720
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen last time we made this list.

721
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: He has jumped.

722
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: He's probably made the biggest.

723
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: Jump out of any of the prospects, so I mean

724
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: he deserved it. Obviously, he's been playing very well for

725
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: the Pensacola bluea who's he's playing very well. All three

726
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: outfield spots kind of struggling now a little bit more

727
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: kind of coming back down to earth. But Isaac, what

728
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: have you seen from Victor Mason Junior? And obviously we

729
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: were a little bit stunned when m put in it

730
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: as the top hitting prospect in the organization. But I

731
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: mean he's he's number two for us, so obviously we're

732
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: seeing kind of what Arm is seeing in terms of

733
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: why we put him so high. But I think you know,

734
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: the conclusion when it came to Watson and Masa was Watson.

735
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: You know kind of happen you guys more upset of

736
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: this Guinus, I would.

737
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, the thing on Victor Mason Junior's side is age.

738
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: He's still just twenty one, although he turns twenty two

739
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: very soon in September. And like you said, Kevin, he

740
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: has come down to earth. In fact, he's been struggling

741
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: pretty mightily as of late. In his last sixty eight

742
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: at bats just batting one sixty two and on the

743
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: season he's opsing in the low seven hundreds. And the

744
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: other thing that's on his side is probably just the

745
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: ability to play all three outfield positions very well, I

746
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: should say, like you said, he's got a pretty good arm,

747
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: great jumps in the offield, pretty decent centerfield. Like you

748
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: said at Scola, I don't think he's earned himself a

749
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: promotion quite yet. I'm very curious to see where they

750
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: open him next. Year. Maybe he made an argument to

751
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: not only being big league spring train but maybe open

752
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: up at Triple A. I think that's gonna be a

753
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: very fun player to watch in spring training next season.

754
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: And then with Watson, it's more upside. We have someone

755
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: from the organization tell us that he's the number one guy.

756
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: That was before the draft obviously, but he is the

757
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: number one nine in the system now that year he

758
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: has graduated, and I would stick with that. I think

759
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: Khalil Watson is the number one guy, even though he

760
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: just he hasn't shown much either with the bat, but

761
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: he's still got the tools that I think will develop

762
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: even more so in the higher levels. Power speed bat

763
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: speed is insane, but like I said, the performance just

764
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: hasn't been there, unfortunately. But the young player who also

765
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: has age on his side, he's still a very young

766
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 2: guy as well.

767
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: And then I want to talk finally Thomas White. When

768
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: we think about Noble Meyers, the top right pitcher when

769
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: it comes to high school guys, he was the top writing.

770
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Then Miami went out there and drafted Thomas White, the

771
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: top lefty prep pitcher. Obviously, he has not yet been signed,

772
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: but we kind of spoke about what the money could

773
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: look like there, and he makes the top ten for us,

774
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: cracking it at nine.

775
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: ELI.

776
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: Just your overall thoughts on Thomas White.

777
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: It has a lot of starter traits. There's a really

778
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: exciting player who comes with probably the same caveat as

779
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: with Noble where he comes from the Northeast, where he

780
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: is just not you don't get a ton of opportunities

781
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 3: to face high quality competition growing up there at this point.

782
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: But he was, you know, it was one of the most.

783
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: Highly regarded prep pitchers. He had a commitment to go

784
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: to Vanderbilt, and we could just look on the same

785
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: list and see Jake Eater he was a Vanderbilt product

786
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 3: as well. So this is, Yeah, this is a player

787
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 3: that you just there's lots like with both his fastball

788
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: and his secondaries, and you can make the case the

789
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: gap between him and Meyer probably might not shouldn't probably

790
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: be as big as it is right here, Like you

791
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: can make the cass from moving him up quite a

792
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: bit because he has the size similar size that Meyer does,

793
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: and he yeah, not quite the same fastball velocity, but

794
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: he checks a lot of the other boxes that you want.

795
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: Just yeah, looks a lot like a staring pitcher. We

796
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: have him a few spots below Dax Fulton. Yeah, there's

797
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: some similarities between him and Dax as well. It's all

798
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: these guys, they're kind of Yeah, it's kind of splitting

799
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: hairs really between a lot of these pictures that we

800
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: have in the top ten.

801
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I find the argument I thought he should

802
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: go over Barry list meeting, I did advocate for him

803
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: being up at least over Barry. With Yidie and Dax

804
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: and Victor Mason Junior, it's, like I said, just really

805
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: splinting hairs. And with these two young pitchers, and Noble

806
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: and Thomas very similar profiles, just once a lefty and

807
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: one was alrighty, and they took the best high school

808
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: arms in the draft back to back. We already said

809
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: how much we liked their draft strategy in this one.

810
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: So last play I want to go through very quickly.

811
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: It was unranked in our last one. Dane Meyer's minor

812
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: league GRUL five pick.

813
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: Wow.

814
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: I mean that's all we can say. Wow with Dane

815
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: Myers makes you know, gets called up to the big

816
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: leagues this season after absolutely dominating both that Pensacola and

817
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: I think playing even better with Jacksonville and gets to

818
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: call up. He's been playing a lot of center field.

819
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: You know, obviously that's not his true position, but he

820
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: hasn't been horrible.

821
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: To say, some pretty bad routes.

822
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: Aside from that, I mean, he's been able to hold

823
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: it down for Miami, and not only that defensively, but offensively,

824
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: he looked great. I think that the one the game

825
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: right before the All Star brek he had he had

826
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: his first career homer along with Hayesy Sanchez and Brian

827
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: de la Cruz, who all three of them hit a

828
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: homer all you know, first time in a while that

829
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: the whole outfields at a homer there. But this was

830
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: Alex Carver's guy. Since the start of the year, I

831
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: find kind of started realizing that he was pretty damn good.

832
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: And ELI added him as a honorable mention to our

833
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: last list. So I'll let Eli do to talking on

834
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: mister Dane Myers, who has just been a great story

835
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: thus far, great story with great play.

836
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, even when he was nearing his debut, I was

837
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: thinking in my head to kind of limit expectations and

838
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: think of him as an athletic Charles LeBlanc as a

839
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: rich man's version of that, and I think you can

840
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: safely say that he's better than that, even better as

841
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: a player that just has such he uses the entire field.

842
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: He's just a line drive machine to this point. So,

843
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: and he plays a bunch of different positions. I don't

844
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 3: know if he plays any single of them exceptionally well,

845
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: but the fact that he can at least fake it

846
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: in center field for this Marlins team right now, that

847
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: is enormously valuable, and that goes into your whole combinationist

848
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: So how good this player will eventually be. He's I

849
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: think he's the oldest player in our entire top thirties,

850
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: twenty seven years old, so he is filled out as

851
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: to what he's going to be physically. But he is

852
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: a player that is only a couple of years into

853
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: being a full time professional hitter. So there is an

854
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 3: interesting argument to make that there is more in there,

855
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 3: more in the tank than ordinarily think of for player

856
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: his age, just because of his lack of experience on

857
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: the side of the ball and the athleticism. The speed

858
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: is just another factor in here, where if he gets

859
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: on base, even if he is more of a singles hitter.

860
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: That's why he turned into a line drive guy instead

861
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: of a slugging home run guy. I mean, he can

862
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: turn a lot of those singles into doubles with his agility.

863
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: He is an above average runner, even at despite being

864
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 3: relatively tall. He is a great athlete. Is pretty surprising

865
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: in hindsight that they were able to get him in

866
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: the minor league phase of the Rule five draft, and

867
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: we think he is now pretty high up there in

868
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: terms of the very best prospects in this organization. Hopefully

869
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: he just continues to hit relatively consistently so he sticks

870
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 3: on this roster and then he graduates from prospect eligibility.

871
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 3: But this is extremely unexpected developments who already have him

872
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: kind of make this impact and really show that he

873
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 3: is an important piece of a contending team.

874
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: Anything on your ownd Isaac, anything else you want to

875
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: dress a loose in the top ten.

876
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: No, it's just so impressive that he has just hit

877
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: everywhere he's been, Like you, I said, only been hitting

878
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: for two years or so, and he's just hit every

879
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: level that he's been with since being with the Tigers

880
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: and Marl in the Marlins system. He's just hit and hit,

881
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: and he's the type of player that a successful team

882
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: calls up and they don't expect great things. They expect

883
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: him to, you know, hold his own, but they don't

884
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: expect him to do as well as he's doing. And

885
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: he's like the type of guy that, hey, the Martins

886
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: called him up and he's helping them, you know, get

887
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: to the finish line of this season and make the postseason.

888
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: And he's someone that's gonna be in the middle of it.

889
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna be hitting higher than he has been in

890
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: my opinion. You know, he's been hitting seventh and ninth

891
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: pretty consistently, seventh against lefties, right ninth against righty's, and

892
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: I think, you know, sooner or later he'll be hitting

893
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: spright smack in the middle of disorder. He's one of

894
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: their better bats. He finished the Saint Louis series oh

895
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: for eight, but boy, I think at least six of

896
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: them hadn't expected batting average of at least three fifty.

897
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: He got robbed left and right up the middle. He

898
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: was getting robbed all over the place by the infielders, outfielders.

899
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: He just puts hard contact on the ball almost every

900
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: single time up and like Eli said, he plays so

901
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: many positions. Corner outfield's, out outfield spot's the best corner

902
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: ininfield spots probably where he profile is the best. But yes,

903
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: he's a very fun player and a very nice guy.

904
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: I must say is well, I's going with him a

905
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: good amount and he's a really cool guy, and I

906
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: Marlins nat him and he is someone that the Marlins

907
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: are called up and he's gonna be a very pivotal

908
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: player of his team.

909
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: For for a pretty bold to guy, he's pretty damn fast.

910
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one other thing I want to mention.

911
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: He's he's pretty fast for how big he is, to

912
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: be honest. And the last thing I'll say is he

913
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: did tell us he prefers third and first. But right

914
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: now with how needs are kind of fun, you know,

915
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: looking he'll he'll he's going to go to center, and

916
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: if Jasz comes back and Coop somehow goes on the

917
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: I l I think mister Dayners will be playing some

918
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: first base. But looking at the next ten on the list,

919
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: obviously highlighting with Nasi Nunez and a lot more fcl

920
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: DSL guys here we have Ronald Hernandez was a Gerardo

921
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: in there, and Marco Vargas, who I think I think

922
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: we were talking about this that maybe at the end

923
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: of the season, once we do one more update, if

924
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: we do it, he may be the top hitting prospect

925
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: in the Miami Marlins organization. Eli, I mean just in

926
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: the system, I will say, so, just your quick thoughts

927
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: on Marco Vargas.

928
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: He's he's been both him and Ronald Hernandez, who we

929
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: have at eighteen. Those guys have been to the very

930
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: best players in the FCL this year. Now with Hernandez,

931
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 3: he's repeating the level, so that gives him an edge.

932
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: With Vargas, this is just a continuation of what he

933
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: did in the DSL last year, so it was not

934
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: the biggest name in that international class, but already he

935
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 3: is just incredibly productive. His ability is discipline is off

936
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: the charts, and there's enough batted ball impact, there's enough

937
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: hope that he sticks in the middle infield that this

938
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: is a fast rising.

939
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 4: Prospect that could continue to rise.

940
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: I'd love to see him and Hernandez both moved up

941
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: to low A Jupiter soon, almost immediately, And I think

942
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: then is when, particularly in Vargas's kiss, that's when I

943
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: think you could start to take him off. He could

944
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: really take off when we get more of the measurables

945
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: behind his batted ball quality and a better idea of

946
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: his defense. I think that would give us, you know,

947
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: some of the freedom the em bold in us perhaps

948
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: to have him even leap into the top ten by

949
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: the end of the year. But ultimately there's just a

950
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: ceiling you put on these guys in terms of their

951
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: prospect status until they face good full season competition.

952
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: And then I want to quickly go to Ronald I mean,

953
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: he's been really damn good and I think right now

954
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: we haven't rated as the top catch in our system,

955
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: which it makes sense. I mean, the guy is a

956
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: switch hitting catcher. He's hitting well, he's walking at a

957
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 1: very high rate, I believe, and and just just that

958
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the right way to put it. And

959
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: before we move on to the final ten, I do

960
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: want to quickly go through Carson Melburn and Jacob Miller,

961
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: two guys who we believe could possibly be dealt at

962
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: the deadline, not only because the amount of pitchers that

963
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: they've selected, but just they challenged. They were pretty aggressive

964
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: with mil Brand, he only made a couple of starts.

965
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: In Lloyd Jupiter didn't show it too much, wasn't too good,

966
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: but he got the promotion to high A Blloyd Eli,

967
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: you spoke to mel brand at the start of the season,

968
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: do you see that possibility of him being dealt at

969
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: the deadline, just given how young he is? Teams wanting pitching.

970
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: I think most of these teams that are selling and

971
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: are kind of trading rental pitchers they need starting pitching.

972
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: The Padres, the Cardinals, they all need pitching.

973
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a possibility, relatively decent possibility. I don't know

974
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: exactly what his value would be at this particular time.

975
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: I feel like in both cases, especially with mill Brandts,

976
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: he is every bit as valuable as he was a

977
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 3: year ago when he was rafted, and maybe a tick

978
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: higher than that. We're still seeing at this stage of

979
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: his development that his control needs to be ironed out

980
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: quite a bit. I saw most his most recent outing

981
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: was one of his worst of the season in terms

982
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: of that just digging his own hole for him. But

983
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: the fastball is kind of where it starts with him.

984
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: It's a mid nineties fastball that has a ton of

985
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: movement both horizontally and vertically in a way that we

986
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: think eventually we'll get a decent number of swings and misses,

987
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: but at very least you get a lot of soft contact.

988
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: And so that's what it stood.

989
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: Out for him this year is the ability to limit

990
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: hard contact always put you in a position where your

991
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: ground ball away from getting out of your biggest jams

992
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: in that case. So they are starter trades that both

993
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 3: of them. We haven't seen as much with Jacob Miller

994
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: this year. He's been on the injured list recently and

995
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: he's sold down in low way. Yeah, so both of

996
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: them have some some value at this point that wouldn't

997
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: be in a huge turret of trade. But I think

998
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: you understand where this team is at in terms of

999
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: the needs a one to address and the fact that

1000
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: again and again they've shown the ability to develop these

1001
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: young pictures. And because they invested so much of this

1002
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: past draft class in Thomas White and Nobel Meyer, and

1003
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 3: now it seems possibly maybe they get Dietrich in here

1004
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: as well. I think that would even free them more

1005
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: so to deal some of the other arms in the

1006
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: system like Miller and Bill Brett.

1007
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: Final two names I want, I myself want to quickly

1008
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: go through Joe Mack I believe drops a couple other

1009
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: spots he's been horrid. There's just another way to put

1010
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: He's been.

1011
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: Very Joe Mack though, shout out the other day. It

1012
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: took two hundred and eighty four at bats and his

1013
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: first first home run of the season yesterday. Things are

1014
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: not looking good. I think you might be looking at

1015
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: someone they might outright release at some point, not soon,

1016
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: but this has just really been bad. Like the Eve

1017
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: him a lot of money.

1018
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, don't panic.

1019
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy that has recently his

1020
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: last fall in the Arizona Fall League. He had some

1021
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 3: nice moments on both sides of the ball. It has

1022
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: been just a brutal season for him though, so it's

1023
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: that's kind of why he fell down. But he's still

1024
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: young and catchers take generally longer to develop than just

1025
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 3: about anybody else. So yeah, we will see with him.

1026
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: It is a big surprise that on the power fronts,

1027
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: I think coming into when they acquired him. Those one

1028
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: of the few things you pointed out with certainty. You're like,

1029
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: this guy is going to have pretty good gain power and.

1030
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: That has not been the case. Yeah.

1031
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: And then finally camp Alderman. He was our third draft pick.

1032
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: He's at fourteen. We feel pretty good about him.

1033
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: He had the most.

1034
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: He was described to be one of the best power

1035
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: hitters in the draft, and obviously I think that's whe

1036
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: what that'll be the case. He's gonna start at the

1037
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: corner outfield. And then finally Xavier Edwards, I believe, just

1038
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: a couple of spots over him. Shout out to Xavier Edwards.

1039
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: He's been playing very well in at triple at Jacksonville.

1040
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: I think I think we all thought he deserved to

1041
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: call up over Garrett Hampson. But moving on with the

1042
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: final ten.

1043
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: On He'll give one last note on Edwards as we're

1044
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: recording this. Recently he's been playing some third base after

1045
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: not really doing so much at all this year. You know,

1046
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: the Marlins are at this year has not gotten very

1047
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: much third base production at all in the big league

1048
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: level from Jean Segura in company. So yeah, I hope

1049
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: that is the precursor to him being called up for

1050
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: the stretch run. Even if he's not playing every day,

1051
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: he is overqualified for Triple A at this point.

1052
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: And then finally the last ten Anthony Pigero, he's another

1053
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: FCL guy, Gennaro Miller DSL, the Offrey Solano DSL, and

1054
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: the final draft pick we decided to throw out. There

1055
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: was Rock Vredenburg. Uh, he was a college or another college bat.

1056
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: But I really want to highlight Troy Johnston here because

1057
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: holy I mean, holy shit, he's been really good with

1058
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: Double A Pensacola. I don't even think you should be

1059
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: going to Triple A. I hope, and I pray, and

1060
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: I and I know we we you know, we all

1061
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: love Troy. He's one of the nicest humans in the organization.

1062
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: We pray to the Lord's he's the one calls up.

1063
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: If Gear Cooper goes on an aisle, likely won't be

1064
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: the case, but I myself hope it is Troy. He

1065
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: deserves the major league shot. At least just give him

1066
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: a shot. I think he deserves. But Isaac, anything you

1067
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: want to highlight in.

1068
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: That in this final ten, Yeah, something that I don't

1069
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: think Marlins fans will want to hear. You know, you

1070
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: mentioned Marlins need a hitter and Troy Johnson is a

1071
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: left handed hitter that they could use. Patri mon Verde.

1072
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: He's also overqualified. I would say at this point he

1073
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: can get some major league counts, right. I think part

1074
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: of the reason they're not getting the call up is

1075
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: in case they do want to make some trades and

1076
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: they don't want them to come up and not perform

1077
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: very well and have their trade value just go down.

1078
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: So I think they want them to continue performing and

1079
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: maybe past deadline they're still here. They'll get called up

1080
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: at some point, maybe September. But yeah, I believe that's

1081
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: what's going on right now. They're they're a little bit

1082
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: worried that they do call them up, they might not

1083
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: do well right away and maybe other teams will see

1084
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: that they don't want them. But I didn't want to

1085
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: mention something on Jacob Miller. Jim Bowden out did a

1086
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: potential deal with the Nationals for Gamery Conde Lario the Marlin,

1087
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: the Nationals third baseman who would help the Marlins right away.

1088
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: And Jacob Miller was someone that they could probably just

1089
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: offer Nationals that they accept it. So that's something you

1090
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: keep in mind.

1091
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: And another big dip in our prospect list here was

1092
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: who was Ian Lewis. He's been struggling. I mean, not

1093
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: a good year at all for him. Uh. I think

1094
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: there's just no other way to put it. And I

1095
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: think now obviously still very young, but he was with

1096
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: high A last year I think he got did he

1097
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: get to hi A last year at all?

1098
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: Or no?

1099
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: Why all right? He didn't get to hig A.

1100
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: But obviously I think most of us projected him to

1101
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: start there, but you know, he he did not. He

1102
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: did not. Obviously, I think a lot of you know,

1103
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: a lot of infield depth over there, and obviously I

1104
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: think it was a good decision to keep him at

1105
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: low A. And eyes are just anything you want to

1106
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of touch up with. Ian Lewis been pretty high

1107
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: strikeout right too, which has been an issue with him.

1108
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was someone that I've never really been that

1109
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: high on in my I think it was my first

1110
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: top thirty list in twenty twenty two. I had him

1111
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: pretty low. I think, like maybe the mid teens, and

1112
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: I remember Eli telling me I should have been higher.

1113
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: He's still very young. Like it's another guy that has

1114
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: a lot of age on his side, a lot of

1115
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: time on his side. But I just don't see a

1116
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: lot of the hype. He does hit the ballard apparently

1117
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: from what I've understood, but I just a lot of speed,

1118
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: young Haamian like Jazz, But I don't see a lot

1119
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 2: of upside with this player. Not a lot of size,

1120
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: but he does hit the ball pretty consistently, just I

1121
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: don't see it with him.

1122
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Pmax is back from injury and gets to see there.

1123
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: Obviously we mentioned it. Pat Monteverde there, I think he

1124
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: deserves triple a time. I think he's even checked out

1125
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: of that. Possibly he was a twenty eighteen guy. And

1126
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: then finally, I want to quickly touch on Cody mor

1127
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: said he's looked pretty good. I think since coming back

1128
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: after a couple of weeks, he's finally got going. And

1129
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: then Jeoffrey and Gennio does. Jeoffrey, I believe is the

1130
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: one who hasn't been playing too much lately. We don't

1131
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: know what the issue is with him. He kind of

1132
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: made a switch from one team to another one. I

1133
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: think it was DSL Marlins to see DS on Miami.

1134
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: Jenel Miller's look pretty good overall, and he's been very

1135
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: impressive and Rock Vraidenberg kind of like a Kemp Alderman,

1136
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: a lot of power, tall size. So we're excited. We

1137
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: think this list is not Obviously no list is ever perfect,

1138
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: but it was perfect in our own eyes. And I

1139
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: think Isaac or Eli, if you have any last things

1140
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: to mention, I know we have some honorable mentions, but

1141
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to go through those.

1142
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of guy's knocking

1143
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: on the door when we get to the bottom of

1144
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: this list. I'm intrigued to see what Zach mccambley continues

1145
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: to look like as they developed him as a reliever.

1146
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: I still have some optimism for Sean Reynolds. He didn't

1147
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: show much during his first major league trip because the

1148
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: teams didn't use him at all, sent him down blow

1149
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: them up, so that was disappointing. And yeah, there's some

1150
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 3: relievers in the upper miners that we like a lot

1151
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 3: as well. But and then otherwise we'll see the lower

1152
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: levels has some really interesting hitting prospects, some that are

1153
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: in the DSL that we'll learn about more as they

1154
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: progress through the system. But you don't want to get

1155
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: too far ahead of them with those guys. So the

1156
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: likelihood is that this list gets a little thinner a

1157
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: couple of weeks from now as we get through the

1158
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: trade deadline. But yeah, it's an interesting combination of guys,

1159
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 3: and yeah, thankfully a couple of them have progressed to

1160
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: the big leagues a ready and helped them get to

1161
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: where the Marlins are at this point, mainly Dane and Uri.

1162
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: That's ultimately what you want is you want a homegrown

1163
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: talent and guys that can be part of a winning team.

1164
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: And the fact that they finally are in a position

1165
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: to do that atleast that says something about what this

1166
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 3: whole player development operation has done. Even if at this

1167
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: moment you don't know where this next star is going

1168
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: to come from. I've shown already recently that some of

1169
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: the guys they are able to translate that success to

1170
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: the highest level.

1171
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: So before we wrap up quickly, just each of us

1172
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: mentioned a prospect that we think could possibly make it

1173
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: to this top thirty by season zen that is currently

1174
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: not on. So I'm gonna start with Faban Lopez of DSL.

1175
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: This guy's been pretty impressive and say the least putting

1176
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: up good numbers. So ISAs are here?

1177
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: Next? Is Josh Simpson not on the list? No him?

1178
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: He took him off last time too. All right, elire up, I.

1179
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 4: Guess let me take a hitter.

1180
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: I'll say I'll go out of character and I'll say

1181
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: Will Banfield has a really strong finish of the year.

1182
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 3: Still just twenty two n twenty well, twenty three something

1183
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: like that, Like there's still hope for him. I think

1184
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: he's going to show enough potential down the stretch offensively

1185
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: to go with the whole package to yeah, make for

1186
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 3: some wet to self on the list somewhere.

1187
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he turns twenty four very soon.

1188
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: Actually, he's been good, more, better, better than Jacob Stallings

1189
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: and Nick fod to us. I'll keep it at that.

1190
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: But all right, with that being said, we'll see you

1191
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: guys next week. We have a fun guest and so

1192
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: from Isaac from Elin myself, we'll see you guys on

1193
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: that week. Peace dove and go finish