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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna jump right into it.

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Speaker 8: We got an extremely special guest today once again, somebody

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Speaker 8: that so we if you listen to the podcast, you know,

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Speaker 8: we interviewed Al Harrington, right, and Al Harrington was somebody.

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Speaker 7: That we wrote a post about.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and then from that post, he you know, engaged

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Speaker 8: a conversation with him right on the podcast. So once again,

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Speaker 8: similar situation, right, you want to.

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Speaker 3: Get the backstort in this the power?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so this is this is the you know, uh,

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Speaker 4: standard procedure for us is like I'll read articles at

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Speaker 4: through articles and I'll find, you know, things that are

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Speaker 4: And I came across this article about Brandon Copeland and

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Speaker 3: to this guy.

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Speaker 4: And said it to you like five thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 4: I know you're sleeping, but I'm like, he has to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was one of our biggest posts. So Brandon

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Speaker 8: Copan if you're not familiar, he he plays for the Jets,

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Speaker 8: but that's that's the only part of his story. He

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Speaker 8: Like we highlight the bad things with you know, people

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Speaker 8: So I shot with DM and we worked it out

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Speaker 8: like you said, power social media, social media. So, first

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Speaker 8: So all right, So the theme of our show is

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Speaker 8: It's sports business, the music business, entertainment business.

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Speaker 6: Right, So if you're one of those players, which is

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Speaker 5: That was amazing what y'all did.

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Speaker 6: Man, Like, I appreciate you, respect you. But a couple

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Speaker 6: Ain't none of that fans stuff in the war, right,

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Speaker 6: Now no, I'm not right, Like there's still another step

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Speaker 6: Like I even joke with my students this semester, and

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: But for a lot of guys, like I remember rookie years,

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Speaker 5: which is like like maybe one hundred and fifty bucks, right.

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Speaker 8: So you had a one point two million dollar contract. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Released from the team.

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Speaker 3: That's in Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: That's in Baltimore.

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Speaker 7: So none of that point two million was guaranteed, none

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Speaker 3: I wish it looks good on paper.

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Speaker 5: Though it looks good, it sounds good.

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Speaker 6: So it's also that that's the problem, that that that

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Speaker 8: Like I can't drive that home. Right, you got a

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Speaker 6: How much you net probably probably like thirty Maybe that's

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Speaker 6: A couple hundred a week because they take your hotel

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Speaker 6: You just don't know, you know, you don't really have

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Speaker 6: Seven thousand, seventy five hundred per week before, so about

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Speaker 5: So I probably made a little less than thirty from

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Speaker 6: Two weeks later, I got picked up by the Tennessee

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Speaker 6: I got cut by them. A lot of people don't

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Speaker 6: know this too. It's like in my fan only they understand.

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Speaker 6: And it's so funny that so at Tuesday at four

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Speaker 6: So for me and the way that my career has been,

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Speaker 5: I have my routine. My family knew.

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Speaker 5: Like I've been cut at three point fifty six pm

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Speaker 7: So you don't get paid, don't get paid?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's showing good faith you, you know, we

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Speaker 5: Blah. Blah blah blah. So you know, take the time off,

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Speaker 6: Then still wait on that. But then to see one

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Speaker 5: I went and did like a whole charity out event

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Speaker 6: I went, We went to a high school and uh,

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Speaker 6: Later on that evening, I had some rehabs set up

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Speaker 8: The whole they sent you on the whole charity event

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Speaker 7: So like last year that.

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Speaker 5: They don't understand.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you see that big contract, you see that big number,

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Speaker 5: Percent of this gun?

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Speaker 7: Off off the river off?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll talk about that because people don't fully understand

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Speaker 5: Option, right, your boss ain't going for that exactly.

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Speaker 8: So I because social media a lot of times people

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Speaker 8: So automatically fifty because you know how you tax automatically,

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Speaker 8: then it's stay taxed. They take that out of your

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Speaker 8: particular Yep, yep, they'll do that.

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Speaker 6: Like if you so, if you're playing in California, so

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Speaker 5: Three games in California.

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Speaker 3: Right west coast.

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Speaker 5: That you know, you get taxed at that California right,

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Speaker 8: And it's crazy because Rod Smith shout to Rod Smith,

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Speaker 4: Not yet, but a legend, a legend in dev Dever

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Speaker 4: Broncos wide receiver Denver legend.

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Speaker 8: So I put a post up a while ago and

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Speaker 8: me and him, we was comming. He was like, yeah, well,

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Speaker 8: people don't realize it's that all right. California has the

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Speaker 8: highest state tax in the country, right, like thirteen percent,

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Speaker 8: like you said. But let's say you played it in

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Speaker 8: for Miami Dolphins Florida, right, which Florida has no state

447
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Speaker 8: income tax, right, So what happens is that you might

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Speaker 8: practice in Florida from Monday to let's say Thursday, right,

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Speaker 8: fly when you fly out for a Sunday game Saturday Saturday,

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Speaker 8: So you practice from Monday to Saturday in Florida. You

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Speaker 8: are in Florida, You're in California for Saturday and Sunday,

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Speaker 8: maybe like Monday morning early. So you only spent two

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Speaker 8: days in California. But the whole week is taxed in

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Speaker 8: California because that's where you played the game. Man, So

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Speaker 8: even though you prepared like you might only spend forty

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Speaker 8: eight hours in that particular state and you practiced in

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Speaker 8: the state that you actually live in, but it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: You played that game in that state. So for the

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Speaker 7: whole week, the whole week's paycheck is tax in California.

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Speaker 3: You guys played Jersey state tax or right, that's what

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Speaker 3: got played.

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Speaker 5: Okay, But I wouldn't be surprised New York trying to

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Speaker 5: take a little bit of that too.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, New York can't take none of that.

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Speaker 6: But but I wouldn't be surprised. Trust me, I'd have

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Speaker 6: seen a lot. I've seen, like you said, every so

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Speaker 6: when we play a team in Texas, it's like, okay, cool, right,

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Speaker 6: London games, London international taxes, they cost a bit too, right,

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Speaker 6: Florida teams you know, you see Miami or Tampa ballion schedule.

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Speaker 5: You likes Tennessee, you know cool?

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Speaker 6: Another thing, you know, a few years ago, there was

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Speaker 6: a guy in the locker room when I was in Detroit. Detroit,

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Speaker 6: they have the city tax and the state tax, so

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Speaker 6: they'll tax you in Michigan and then they'll tax you

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Speaker 6: in Detroit.

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Speaker 5: Now when we so, one guy got.

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Speaker 6: Very very smart financial advisor account and got very very

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Speaker 6: smart with it because again, like you said, if you

479
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Speaker 6: guys want to play the game with me, of like, okay, hey.

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Speaker 5: I'm only here for twenty four hours.

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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes we flying at five pm, we out

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Speaker 6: the next day at five pm after the game kickoffs

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Speaker 6: at one.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm only here for twenty four hours. You're

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Speaker 5: gonna tax me for the whole week.

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Speaker 6: I remember his issue was Detroit was taking tax every

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Speaker 6: single week as if we trained.

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Speaker 5: There, played there, and all that stuff, like we were

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Speaker 5: there for the whole week.

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Speaker 6: So when when we played with the Lions, our facilities

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Speaker 6: in Allen Park, the stadium is in Detroit, Michigan, It's

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Speaker 6: like a twenty minute ride. But Detroit was trying to

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Speaker 6: take taxes as if you were there every single play.

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Speaker 6: So they'll actually literally break down the days and be like, well,

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Speaker 6: you know you were here one hundred and such and

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Speaker 6: such days. So he was like, no, okay, I'm actually

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Speaker 6: only there out of the what eight home games. I'm

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Speaker 6: there Saturday night when we stayed at the team hotel,

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Speaker 6: and I'm there Sunday when we play. So them one

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Speaker 6: hundred eighty days, now you got sixteen of them, right,

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Speaker 6: And so he ended up going back and getting some

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Speaker 6: money from Detroit on that.

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Speaker 4: So the interesting thing is like the way your mind's

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Speaker 4: working right now. You're like, if I'm play in Texas, right,

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Speaker 4: if I'm playing the Cowboys or the Texans, I know

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Speaker 4: there's no state tech.

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Speaker 3: How many of your counterparts have that same mind frame?

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Speaker 6: I think a lot due, I think a lot do

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Speaker 6: because I mean, at that point, you're talking about thousands, right,

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Speaker 6: Like you're not talking about like you're talking about the

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Speaker 6: difference in you know, depending on what you're making. You're

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Speaker 6: talking about the difference in like six at your grand

513
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Speaker 6: by playing somewhere else versus you know, I mean some guys,

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Speaker 6: I mean the way they getting paid.

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Speaker 5: Some guys.

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Speaker 6: You're talking a good fifteen twenty grand difference, right, So

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Speaker 6: guys are thinking about it again, you know, not to

518
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Speaker 6: take up all your time. But there's different things that

519
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Speaker 6: people out there just don't understand, like the fact of

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Speaker 6: like you have to have multiple places of residency, see right,

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Speaker 6: Like sometimes like you literally just have to. And I've

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Speaker 6: never wanted to be that guy having Like I'm a

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Speaker 6: frugal person, right, I'm cheap, cool.

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Speaker 5: With me, right, I have no problem. I'm proud of it.

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Speaker 6: But like I literally I have a home base here

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Speaker 6: in New Jersey with my wife and I. When I

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Speaker 6: was playing in Detroit, she works in Manhattan and she's

528
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Speaker 6: from here. We had home base here, so now play

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Speaker 6: with the Jets. I'm like, man, okay, like we can

530
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Speaker 6: just have home base like and that's the crib. Well,

531
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Speaker 6: guess what home base for me is forty five minutes

532
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Speaker 6: away from here in no traffic. So if I wake

533
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Speaker 6: up in the morning and it's raining hard. I remember

534
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Speaker 6: my first day trying to come in and reporting to

535
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Speaker 6: the Jets. It was raining hard, and my drive went

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Speaker 6: from forty five minutes no traffic and this is like

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Speaker 6: six thirty in the morning, right to an hour and

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Speaker 6: fifteen minutes. Now people are like, oh, we'll just wake

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Speaker 6: up early and all that type of stuff. Well, guess

540
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Speaker 6: what if you're late to your job, you get a

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Speaker 6: slap on the risk, right your boss. You know, at

542
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Speaker 6: a certain point you can't keep being lated. You'll get

543
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Speaker 6: your you get fired. But for me, if I'm late,

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Speaker 6: that's a thirteen thousand dollars fine, right, Like that's.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I'll go ahead. And so

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Speaker 5: last year I had to rent a place.

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Speaker 6: I have a house forty minutes from here, and I

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Speaker 6: had I mean, some people might be like, well you

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Speaker 6: didn't have to know. Like for me, I had to

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Speaker 6: rent a place seven minutes. It's not worth the risk, right,

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Speaker 6: It's not worth the risk. It's not worth being a

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Speaker 6: few minutes late. And then also it's just the cost

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Speaker 6: of doing business.

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Speaker 7: Right, You're going to travel at forty five minutes, Yeah, forty.

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Speaker 6: Five minutes when I'm like I told people, it's an

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Speaker 6: investment as well, right, Like forty five minutes. That's forty

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Speaker 6: five minutes I could be working on my body getting

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Speaker 6: ready for the next week's game. That's forty five minutes

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Speaker 6: that somebody is literally watching film with Just how am

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Speaker 6: I gonna whoop Brandon coping this week?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: And I need that forty five minutes to make sure

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Speaker 6: I'm prepared for him. Well, so there's a bunch of

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Speaker 6: different costs. You know, Guys talk about transporting vehicles back

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Speaker 6: and forth, right, Like I live in California, but you know,

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Speaker 6: on my home base, I'm born and raised in California.

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Speaker 6: I have everything over there, But now I'm with the Jets, Right,

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Speaker 6: how's my vehicle getting back and forth? Or am I

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Speaker 6: gonna uber it every day? Am I gonna walk every day?

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Speaker 6: Bike every day? What about when it's snowy? So do

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Speaker 6: I need to pay the transport back a car back

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Speaker 6: and forth? Do I need a rent a car? Don't

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Speaker 6: need to buy a car. Some of these costs that

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Speaker 6: we see guys with were like, you know, we just

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Speaker 6: assumed like, oh, this guy, he's being extra, he's doing that,

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Speaker 6: you know. But some of this stuff is just a

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Speaker 6: cost of like convenience and doing business at a high level, right,

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Speaker 6: and that you know, again, it's not a what is't

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Speaker 6: us right? I'm thankful to have those type of problems

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Speaker 6: as opposed to others. But you know, those are costs

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Speaker 6: that you just can't escape from.

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