Speaker 1: I almost thought we were gonna have the Miracle of
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands number four. Welcome to the Postgame Show, present
Speaker 1: and by Rico here on Philadelphia Eagles dot Com Chris
Speaker 1: McPherson alongside Fran Duffy. So the Eagles lose sixteen to ten.
Speaker 1: Christian Pago, the newly signed linebacker basically coming on just
Speaker 1: to play this fourth preseason game, recovered a fumble when
Speaker 1: the handoff went awry. The Eagles had one last chance
Speaker 1: there in the red zone. Dan Evans of Bryce Strecks
Speaker 1: on fourth down incomplete in the end zone, and the
Speaker 1: Eagles lose sixteen to ten. So they finished the preseason
Speaker 1: two and two. That's now in the rearview mirror. Fran,
Speaker 1: we can now look ahead to the regular season September
Speaker 1: tenth against the Washington Redskins. As exciting as that was,
Speaker 1: the preseason is over. We can now give ready for
Speaker 1: Week one. I think we're all excited here to take
Speaker 1: on the Washington Redskins next Sunday down in Washington. It'll
Speaker 1: be very, very exciting to see that division matchup in
Speaker 1: Week one. There's a lot to talk about for that game.
Speaker 1: But first got something big this weekend. The roster cut
Speaker 1: down to fifty three players happens this weekend by Saturday
Speaker 1: four o'clock. It's a lot to talk about is beginning
Speaker 1: into that period. We'll start to do that. In just
Speaker 1: a moment, we're gonna hear from head coach Doug Pearson
Speaker 1: and just a little bit, he'll recap what he saw
Speaker 1: really tonight, it was all about protecting the starters with
Speaker 1: the full ninety main roster at his disposal, he basically said, look,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have the starters. We're pretty much talking
Speaker 1: most of the second team guys out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are some key players like Derek Barnett didn't shoot
Speaker 1: up tonight. Okay, Basically tonight was let's get through the
Speaker 1: preseason healthy. A couple of roster jobs are still on
Speaker 1: the line, let those sort themselves out on the field,
Speaker 1: but by and large, get through tonight and look ahead
Speaker 1: to the regular season. But it was interesting because it
Speaker 1: provided a great challenge for the guys who did play,
Speaker 1: because the Jets for the first quarter play their starters.
Speaker 1: They had their stars are both offense and defense, So
Speaker 1: we got to see these backups go against players who
Speaker 1: are still gonna be playing on Sundays moving forward here,
Speaker 1: so Fran, as we look past the preseason that's now
Speaker 1: done and start looking at what the Eagles had to
Speaker 1: do to get to the fifty three man roster max
Speaker 1: to him by Saturday's four pm deadline. A couple of
Speaker 1: key positions we want to look at. Why don't we
Speaker 1: start at running back? And that was one coming into
Speaker 1: tonight where you had Danelle Pumphrey, Corey Clement pretty much
Speaker 1: it seemed like they're battling, possibly for one spot, maybe
Speaker 1: there's a way the Eagles keep two. But then you
Speaker 1: had five running backs total on the roster. What do
Speaker 1: you think is going to happen there? Especially with Clement
Speaker 1: getting the start tonight. Yeah, I mean there was interesting
Speaker 1: to see Corey Clement get the start tonight, and you
Speaker 1: saw the rookie take some hard runs there in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. He was able to run between
Speaker 1: the tackles, something he's done all summer long. And Mike
Speaker 1: Mayock said it on the broadcast, he thinks Corey Clement
Speaker 1: is gonna be on this football team. As you see
Speaker 1: the graphic beside me, you see that Corey Clement one
Speaker 1: of his locks to make the roster Donal Phumphrey on
Speaker 1: the bubble should we should mention as well. Donald Humphrey
Speaker 1: left the game with a head injury was listening as
Speaker 1: questionable to return. We'll see how that impacts his status
Speaker 1: moving forward. But I think there is a way for
Speaker 1: the Eagles to keep all five running backs on this roster.
Speaker 1: Now will that happen? That remains to be seen. Well,
Speaker 1: we've got about forty eight hours to see. But I
Speaker 1: think there is a way for that to happen. You
Speaker 1: certainly can. The challenge for the Eagles is going to
Speaker 1: be you're gonna have to go light elsewhere. And if
Speaker 1: you look at some of the position groups defensive line,
Speaker 1: where they are stacked both at end and tackle, offensive line,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of death there. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: let go of some quality plays. I think either way, Fran,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be some good players who the Eagles might say,
Speaker 1: let's hope they make it onto the practice squad when
Speaker 1: they hit the waiver wire. Not gonna make it. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to get through. Other teams are
Speaker 1: gonna see what the Eagles have on tape here and
Speaker 1: say that's a good player. He may not make the Eagles,
Speaker 1: but he'll make our team. The one thing you might
Speaker 1: have to account for here is because the rosters are
Speaker 1: going right from ninety down to fifty three, you basically
Speaker 1: are going to have over one thousand, one hundred players
Speaker 1: hitting the wire at the same time. Personnel departments all
Speaker 1: around the league. You look at the Eagles, you know
Speaker 1: led by hwar Roseman, Joe Douglas, you know Dwayne Joseph.
Speaker 1: On the pro personnel side, any wild the assistant director
Speaker 1: or a player of personnel. Those guys have been working
Speaker 1: around the clock the last few days kind of trying
Speaker 1: to guess who's going to be cut from each team
Speaker 1: and say, these are probably gonna be players who are
Speaker 1: gonna be available, comes Sarady at four PM. So that's
Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest thing for the Eagles here is
Speaker 1: are there plays that they possibly could slide through now
Speaker 1: with a running back situation there if you say clements
Speaker 1: in you're trying to figure out what to do with Pumphrey.
Speaker 1: The case for Pumphrey, in my eyes, is not so
Speaker 1: much about me. What you've seen this preseason had a
Speaker 1: couple of good returns, one put one good kickoff return
Speaker 1: tonight You've seen him catch the ball at the backfield claimant.
Speaker 1: There are just times where he doesn't have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to make plays. You've seen the ability to run in
Speaker 1: between the tackles, but maybe not on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1: To me, with him, it's not about twenty seventeen. You've
Speaker 1: got Darren Sprowles, You've got Wendell Small, but we've got
Speaker 1: la Garrett Blunt. I don't know what his role this
Speaker 1: year would be. It's more of a long term projection
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, no question about it. And that's why
Speaker 1: the Eagles used a seventh round choice to trade up
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, so spending two draft picks to
Speaker 1: bring Donal Pumphrey into the fold, because he's got that
Speaker 1: dynamic playmaking ability, the ability to be a matchup problem
Speaker 1: out in space. You saw him catch some passes out
Speaker 1: of the slot last week against the Miami Dolphins. I
Speaker 1: think that that's something that he can do early on.
Speaker 1: But now, like you said, it is a long term projection.
Speaker 1: You're not worried about Donal Pumphrey in twenty seventeen. You're
Speaker 1: worried about how can he impact this team moving forward.
Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls in the back end of his career. Will
Speaker 1: he be here in twenty eighteen and beyond? Can he
Speaker 1: impact this team when Darren Sprawls moves on the thing?
Speaker 1: What Pumphrey is again? If you say, all right, well,
Speaker 1: maybe he's I can help us this year? Can we
Speaker 1: play with the practice squad? That's a case of do
Speaker 1: you think he can get through the waiver wire? And
Speaker 1: that would be a gambled Eagles may have to evaluate
Speaker 1: over the next twenty four hours forty eight hours to
Speaker 1: see if we do put him on waivers. Would another
Speaker 1: team pick him up. The fact that the Beagles had
Speaker 1: to move up to him in the fourth round speaks
Speaker 1: to me that another team probably would say, we would
Speaker 1: love to have him on our team. Next position up
Speaker 1: for us here, wide receiver. Okay, one of the most
Speaker 1: overhauled position groups in the entire offseason. Bring in on
Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey, bringing in Tory Smith. You have those two
Speaker 1: guys set as your starters on the outside. They trade
Speaker 1: away at Jordan Matthew, So maybe some questions about who
Speaker 1: will be the slot guy, but you figure Nelson Agilore
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy there. Mac Collins Special
Speaker 1: Team's Dynamo had the beautiful catch and run touchdown in
Speaker 1: the first game against the Packers. He's your fourth guy.
Speaker 1: What happens after that? In your estimation, Frank Well, I
Speaker 1: think it really comes down to is what do you
Speaker 1: really like at that position and what can the Eagles
Speaker 1: go to use. I think you have Marcus Johnson, who's
Speaker 1: got size and speed, the ability to impact the game
Speaker 1: vertically down the field. Then you've got Bryce Tracks who's
Speaker 1: been in the league for one year. He's also got
Speaker 1: that speed, a little bit smaller than what you have
Speaker 1: in Marcus Johnson. And then you have Shelton Gibson, who
Speaker 1: you spent a fifth round pick on this year. He's
Speaker 1: got the speed to attack the field downfield, vertically, and
Speaker 1: he's just had issues with drafts throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the summer. I will say this about Sheldon Gibson, He's
Speaker 1: gotten better throughout the course of the summer. Every single
Speaker 1: step during the process, he has gotten better. He's gotten
Speaker 1: more consistent catching the football. He had a couple of
Speaker 1: nice grabs here tonight. I think Shelton Gibson has served
Speaker 1: himself well. It's a matter of just a numbers game
Speaker 1: right now. He has he done enough to get ahead
Speaker 1: of Marcus Johnson and Bryce Tregs. Fran You do a
Speaker 1: phenomenal job of value these guys. Before the draft, Sheldon
Speaker 1: Gibson didn't seem my kid to run a loud routes.
Speaker 1: His route tree was limited. Do you think that played
Speaker 1: a part and maybe his slow progression early on in
Speaker 1: training camp in the preseason. Yeah, I mean, it's something
Speaker 1: he talked about. He was very open about that with
Speaker 1: reporters throughout the course of the last few months. Is
Speaker 1: that he was not asked to run a wide variety
Speaker 1: of routes in West Virginia. He ran go routes, he
Speaker 1: ran slants, he ran screens, and after that it was
Speaker 1: kind of a mixed bag. So now you see him
Speaker 1: coming to the NFL, and now he's got to run,
Speaker 1: you know, exponentially more routes than what he was asked
Speaker 1: to at the college level, and he's got to doing
Speaker 1: at a much crisper, more efficient rate. It's just something
Speaker 1: that he was not asked to do at college, and
Speaker 1: that's a learning curve. And so what you happens is
Speaker 1: is when players aren't necessarily doing something that's second nature
Speaker 1: to them. Now they're not doing everything else is fast,
Speaker 1: You're thinking through everything, and it's just it's it all
Speaker 1: kind of compounds in snowballs and in factor in. He
Speaker 1: struggled with catching the ball, and I think that's just
Speaker 1: an issue where it was everything was kind of piling on.
Speaker 1: It's like a snowball effect, like you would say fran
Speaker 1: where he's trying to learn the routes, he's trying to
Speaker 1: learn the offense, trying to be in the exact right position,
Speaker 1: where now on top of it, he's struggling just to
Speaker 1: hold onto football and it's just probably mentally he was
Speaker 1: just drowning at that point. So it seems like that
Speaker 1: he was picking up the pace and kind of developing
Speaker 1: towards the end of the preseason. Again, the Eagles have
Speaker 1: had so much talent at this position. You probably don't
Speaker 1: see a spot for him right now on the fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster. But again this is a situation where
Speaker 1: if the Eagles we gonna want to keep five running backs,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can keep a six receiver.
Speaker 1: You could, yes, but again you're going to cheat yourself
Speaker 1: probably another position. But still, Marcus Johnson a strong training camp.
Speaker 1: I mean early on he was running with the first
Speaker 1: team unit when guys like Alshon Jeffrey was sidelined with
Speaker 1: a shoulder injury. I mean, he was one of the
Speaker 1: first guys in there, so he certainly is flashed in
Speaker 1: the eyes of coaches. You had the beautiful touchdown, the
Speaker 1: forty one yard touchdown tonight to cap off the preseason,
Speaker 1: so really really good situation for him. Our next position here,
Speaker 1: as we continue down the list is going to be
Speaker 1: at a linebacker, So we're looking at the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the football. Now where you look at the linebacker
Speaker 1: position and you bring up what Mike Mayock and what
Speaker 1: he thinks what the Eagles will do. Here, you got
Speaker 1: the starters at this point here with Jordan Hicks in
Speaker 1: the middle. You got the two outside guys with Michael
Speaker 1: Kendricks and Nigel Bradham. But they think that deaf guys
Speaker 1: were the big question coming into tonight's game because you
Speaker 1: weren't quite sure about whether or not is Joe Walker
Speaker 1: going to be your backup there. Nag Goods like your swing.
Speaker 1: I like all three positions. Words heath into it makes
Speaker 1: Don Cherry Commo gruge Hill. Nathan Gary, how do you
Speaker 1: think this kind of selled itself here tonight, here Fran
Speaker 1: with this situation where you pretty much had all the
Speaker 1: backups going in there and playing the extended amount of
Speaker 1: time and then try and figure out where the guys
Speaker 1: gonna fit in. I thought Joe Walker did a good
Speaker 1: job flying around the football tonight. You know. I thought
Speaker 1: Commo Gruge Hill played fierce and Downhill was very aggressive.
Speaker 1: This is the position to me where the eas An
Speaker 1: have some tough decisions to make. But I think also
Speaker 1: this is a position that could I think be you know,
Speaker 1: kind of looked over and kind of addressed throughout the weekend,
Speaker 1: because it's not really just about the roster cutdown to
Speaker 1: fifty three on Saturday at four pm. Once the waiver
Speaker 1: wire goes through on Sunday and you can start claiming
Speaker 1: the players from the other teams, It's not just the Eagles,
Speaker 1: you know, worrying about third players getting caught and try
Speaker 1: and slide them to the practice squad. These are gonna
Speaker 1: try to post guys from other teams. They are trying
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. And I certainly think for Fran,
Speaker 1: linebacker will be one of those spots that are going
Speaker 1: to be addressed. Yeah, I think it's certainly possible. And
Speaker 1: when you see the amount of reps that they got
Speaker 1: for some of these young players at that position. You
Speaker 1: talk about some of these young guys, Nate Gary the rookie,
Speaker 1: and then three second year players. You've got Don Cherry
Speaker 1: who was undrafted out of Villanova last year, Joe Walker
Speaker 1: out of Oregon was a seventh round draft choice, and
Speaker 1: then Commu gruge Hill was a sixth round draft pick
Speaker 1: by the New England Patriots. So four guys all bring
Speaker 1: different skill sets. They all have the ability to play
Speaker 1: on special teams. But now it's how else can you
Speaker 1: impact this roster? And I think all four guys have
Speaker 1: really served themselves well throughout the course of the summer.
Speaker 1: Joe Walker, I think you said it earlier. He really
Speaker 1: flashed tonight. You saw his ability to get downhill make
Speaker 1: plays in the run game. Don Cherry has made plays
Speaker 1: every single week here this preseason. Kamu gruge Hill probably
Speaker 1: the most athletic of the group. Nate Gary very athletic
Speaker 1: as well, a college safety, much like gruge Hill, has
Speaker 1: the ability to play special teams. Was a starter on
Speaker 1: all four units this week and last week. So Nate
Speaker 1: Gary is a guy that I think, like Mike Mayock said,
Speaker 1: has the ability to stick on this roster. Now it's
Speaker 1: a matter of who who else on the back end
Speaker 1: can fill in. Interesting on Mayock's list there, that Walker
Speaker 1: was the one bubble guy, yeah, of that group. So
Speaker 1: maybe special teams plays a factor there, because that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a big component for these backup line backers. Because again,
Speaker 1: if you go with your base package of Hicks, Bradham
Speaker 1: and Kendricks, okay, you go to the nickel, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Hicks and Bradham and they're gonna play nickel more
Speaker 1: than fifty percent of the time. So you figure that
Speaker 1: you need all those backup guys to thrive on special teams.
Speaker 1: Because even Kendricks last year, I think had about twenty
Speaker 1: seven percent of the snaps played on defense because he
Speaker 1: was not in the first team nickel package. So to me,
Speaker 1: you have to make sure that those guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be able to contribute in the third phase of the game.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a big factor when they
Speaker 1: try to figure out the best fifty three man roster
Speaker 1: possible here, no question, and that's why Como gruge Hill
Speaker 1: has really got a leg up because he was a
Speaker 1: guy who was a core four special teamer a year ago.
Speaker 1: Nate Gary this summer has proven to be that guy.
Speaker 1: Joe Walker and Don Cherry more on the backup across
Speaker 1: the board in those units. So that's why to me,
Speaker 1: those first two Como Gruge Hill and Nate Gary kind
Speaker 1: of have a leg up on Joe Walker and Don Cherry.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays out though, because Jim Schwartz
Speaker 1: he's gonna need some depth a linebacker, and if he
Speaker 1: feels that Joe Walker or Don Cherry offers better value
Speaker 1: as a linebacker than those other two do, then there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some There's gonna be some discussions had. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the defensive backfield. Okay, another position that has
Speaker 1: been really overhauled since really the start of training camp.
Speaker 1: Here you look at cornerback and the stars there you
Speaker 1: feel pretty good round Darby on the one side and
Speaker 1: Jail Mills on the other. Patrick Robinson, he was a
Speaker 1: player who I was wondering if we might see him tonight. No,
Speaker 1: did not play. Now again he says a lot, says
Speaker 1: a lot. Well, it's one of those things where he's
Speaker 1: been the league long enough, he's played the first three
Speaker 1: priests in games. He's been with you all offseason. I
Speaker 1: don't think you need to see him at this point.
Speaker 1: I think you kind of knew what he was going
Speaker 1: to be at this point. But he has played very
Speaker 1: well since he was moved to the slot. Would you
Speaker 1: agree with that? I don't know. If I would say
Speaker 1: very well, he's played well enough, fair enough, I would
Speaker 1: say he's played well enough. I think I think he's
Speaker 1: found some there. That's the biggest star. It was very
Speaker 1: very up and down on the outside. I feel like
Speaker 1: he's stabilized the nickel position, and I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be the big question really for the Eagles with the
Speaker 1: cornerback position is who's gonna play that nickel spot. We
Speaker 1: know that Malcolm Jenkins can come down. You know they
Speaker 1: have Corey Grahams, so they have a quality third safety
Speaker 1: to put in there with Ronnie McCloud if they wanted
Speaker 1: to do that. But to me, it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where ideally, I think the Eagles would like to
Speaker 1: have a true corner in that position. If it's Patrick Robinson,
Speaker 1: maybe when you're facing some of the bigger slot receivers,
Speaker 1: but the Eagles acquired Dexter McDougall from the Jets. We
Speaker 1: saw him make his debut tonight, and he's one of
Speaker 1: those smaller, quicker quarterbacks who when you're going up against
Speaker 1: the likes of the Jameson Crowder in Week one against Washington,
Speaker 1: the Cole Beasley's the Stirling Shepherds of the world, that's
Speaker 1: the guy you would want in there to match up against.
Speaker 1: So possibly it's a guy a chess piece, so to speak,
Speaker 1: so that when you have the different matchups, you can
Speaker 1: kind of put something a little bit more in your favor,
Speaker 1: because that's one area where I would say that Malcolm
Speaker 1: Jenkins has struggled in the past. It's with those quicker,
Speaker 1: shiftier types of wide receivers. So if you figure you
Speaker 1: have your two guys on the outside, Rasul Douglas is
Speaker 1: making this team. The third round pick he started tonight,
Speaker 1: you got some quality playing time, but you know he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix. So I think it's almost
Speaker 1: like if you figure Robinson's there, who's gonna be the
Speaker 1: fifth corner? Is it gonna be C. J. Smith, who
Speaker 1: at one point was being discussed as a possible starter
Speaker 1: on the outside or voting for playing time on the outside.
Speaker 1: But of course that's before the Eagles got Ronald Darby,
Speaker 1: they got Dexter McDougal. Or is it going to be McDougall.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be the fifth guy? It's you to
Speaker 1: me if the Eels are making the trade this Layton
Speaker 1: training camp, you know in the preseason that they must
Speaker 1: have a plan for this guy. They scout him and
Speaker 1: Fran you've scouted him. You know you included all twenty
Speaker 1: two highlights of him and you're eagle eiding the sky column.
Speaker 1: You know what was your take when you evaluate him
Speaker 1: and saw what he's done so far in the preseason
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Yeah, I think when you watched Dexter
Speaker 1: McDougal this preseason, you saw a player that was really
Speaker 1: kind of coming into his own in that scheme. It
Speaker 1: was his second year in that defense. He has missed
Speaker 1: so much time with injuries throughout the course of his career.
Speaker 1: He had an ACL, he had shoulder, he had soft
Speaker 1: tissue injuries in his hamstring and his groin. So he's
Speaker 1: been working his way back. But you see a quick, aggressive,
Speaker 1: competitive kid. He could play inside or outside. He was
Speaker 1: a direct backup at both right corner and at the
Speaker 1: nickel spot for that New York Jets secondary before the trade.
Speaker 1: So he was certainly a player that I think they
Speaker 1: were depending on for depth purposes, and I think when
Speaker 1: you look at this Eagle secondary, I think he can
Speaker 1: fill a very similar role. I expect that he's going
Speaker 1: to be a factor, and I if I had to guess,
Speaker 1: I would think that Dex McDougald will be on this team.
Speaker 1: I know Mike had him listed on his bubble. I'll
Speaker 1: be very interested to see where he ends up on
Speaker 1: this roster because again, can't go heavy, Mike Listen, Billy
Speaker 1: Brown is making as a fourth tight end. He mentioned
Speaker 1: the fifth running back. Are they gonna go heavy on
Speaker 1: the offensive line? You have the depth at linebacker, at link.
Speaker 1: It's it's tough. You got out. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: cut some good football players, It's like you said, and
Speaker 1: that's where you want to be. If you're a growing
Speaker 1: team like the Philadelphia Eagles. They're trying to build up
Speaker 1: this roster and bring in young talent. At some point
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to let go of talented players. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the situation they're in right Let's send
Speaker 1: it to Doug Pierson, head coach, speaking now at MetLife Stadium, then,
Speaker 1: well what you may do in yeah, you know, UM, listen,
Speaker 1: we've got we've got the next forty eight hours really
Speaker 1: um to really go back and and and have some
Speaker 1: good conversation. Um. The thing is we want to be
Speaker 1: able to we want to be able to look at
Speaker 1: the entire body of work going back to April when
Speaker 1: these guys you know, came into our system and and
Speaker 1: and where they're at. So, um, we've got some time
Speaker 1: in front of us. UM, you know, but this this
Speaker 1: was some good film for these guys and some good
Speaker 1: uh opportunities, and we got to take a look at
Speaker 1: the whole thing. What I've running backs realistic to carry?
Speaker 1: Is it realistic? I don't know. I don't know. Um again,
Speaker 1: that's something that we'll we'll evaluate. Um. You know, um
Speaker 1: could be based on other positions, but it's it's not
Speaker 1: out of the question. Well, he had a great workout pregame,
Speaker 1: so again he's he's he's right where he needs to
Speaker 1: be going into the season. So uh again, just decided
Speaker 1: to rest him. You've said before that you're not concerned
Speaker 1: about his elbow, but it seems like it's been lingering
Speaker 1: now for a while, maybe longer than we all expected.
Speaker 1: Why is there no concern? Because I'm not concerned based
Speaker 1: on what I'm getting from the medical staff and based
Speaker 1: on Nick's feeling and the way he worked out again today,
Speaker 1: and um really through you know, this week in practice
Speaker 1: a little bit and kind of building himself up, there's
Speaker 1: there's no concern. Get the running back position. How difficult
Speaker 1: of a decision? Well, it's always difficult when you're when
Speaker 1: you're getting down to the last you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of players on your roster and and you know, um,
Speaker 1: these guys, these guys battled hard tonight. They put some
Speaker 1: good tape out there. So again it's it's a matter
Speaker 1: of just going back and you know, under under calmer
Speaker 1: situations in the office, looking at the tape, going back
Speaker 1: and you know, having conversations with position coaches and and
Speaker 1: the personnel staff, and and then and then making the
Speaker 1: making the final decision. But these guys, uh, um did
Speaker 1: a lot of nice things. So again, the evaluation here
Speaker 1: in the next couple of hours and the next couple
Speaker 1: of days will be very important. Patrick Robinson's case, who
Speaker 1: held him out tonight. You kind of uncles yesterday? Is
Speaker 1: is he the slack cowner back going forward? Yeah, Patrick's
Speaker 1: been doing a nice job. We feel real comfortable with
Speaker 1: him in the slot. And then the addition of ncdougle Um,
Speaker 1: so we feel comfortable there. I was returning kicks today. Uh,
Speaker 1: that was different from the first three games. Talk about
Speaker 1: done Elle Humphrey. Yeah, again another another opportunity to see
Speaker 1: the field um and and again wanted to wanted to
Speaker 1: evaluate these guys that can play multiple positions, um in
Speaker 1: this football game. Put him in different spots. So you
Speaker 1: saw don Elle as a returner, you saw him as
Speaker 1: a receiver, you saw him in the backfield. So again,
Speaker 1: it just it just allows us to make a good
Speaker 1: evaluation of him. How do you go about evaluating guys
Speaker 1: like a guy like Donelle who might be game what
Speaker 1: the game plan might help him more than another guy.
Speaker 1: How do you take that into account when you're watching
Speaker 1: at a value? Well, again it goes back to how
Speaker 1: I think how we use him in the spring um offensively? Um.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, one thing about don Elle and this
Speaker 1: this is one thing I noticed when we first got him.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a he's a smart football player. He
Speaker 1: gets it. He understands he can he can pick up
Speaker 1: the offense. That's why, uh, you know, comfortable with him
Speaker 1: in multiple roles. Um. And again it's just gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those decisions that we got
Speaker 1: to take in a lot of information. Um, you gotta
Speaker 1: go back and and watch all his all his touches
Speaker 1: from from OTAs through through this game tonight, and and
Speaker 1: uh do that with a lot of positions, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and make make that final judgment among the
Speaker 1: wider seniors who jumped out at your hunt. Um, there
Speaker 1: are some good performances. I thought, uh, you know here tonight,
Speaker 1: I thought, thought Bryce again you know, bounced back and
Speaker 1: had a had had a pretty good, pretty good game.
Speaker 1: Um you know, uh, Greg Ward, I think is is
Speaker 1: another one that's been working, um, you know. And it
Speaker 1: was good really to get them all all some touches, um,
Speaker 1: you know, some opportunities in this game. But I really
Speaker 1: think that Bryce did a nice job again you know,
Speaker 1: with with uh, with the game and with the game plan.
Speaker 1: Really Corey started to night played for the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Was there a plan behind that? Is that that should
Speaker 1: we take something from that that he played then or
Speaker 1: now he was still available throughout the game. But again,
Speaker 1: you know, we needed to make sure that uh, um
Speaker 1: you know that donnell and Barron Marshall I thought did
Speaker 1: a great job late late in the game and a
Speaker 1: tough kid, tough runners. So um, all three of them,
Speaker 1: you know, Uh donnelle probably got the most work obviously,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I wanted to see all
Speaker 1: three of those guys get get touches and get rushes
Speaker 1: in this game. Now you mentioned McDougald. You had two
Speaker 1: practices with him and then tonight. Is that enough to
Speaker 1: get a sense of what he is for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh you know, we got to keep keep doing
Speaker 1: our research on him and and uh you know, keep
Speaker 1: studying his his Uh NOI the tape this week, but
Speaker 1: but in the past for him, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: he'll continue to grow in our system, grow with with
Speaker 1: Schwartz's defense, and uh you know as we move forward, um,
Speaker 1: you know, as we begin to really game plan and
Speaker 1: finalize some things, I think that uh things will will
Speaker 1: kind of simplify just a little bit. And uh, um
Speaker 1: you know, feel comfortable with where he's at and where
Speaker 1: he's going in getting back the fulls What about his
Speaker 1: workout to night impressed me. Well, I thought the velocity,
Speaker 1: you know, the balls coming out of his hand nice,
Speaker 1: uh you know, nice spirals, accuracy, even the way he
Speaker 1: was moving in his drops. Um really uh um was
Speaker 1: was eye catching to watch and and uh um he
Speaker 1: had no issues, so so very comfortable with that. Was
Speaker 1: this the plan all along to to see him work
Speaker 1: out and get a sense there as opposed to playing him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh it kind of kind of reminded me a
Speaker 1: little bit of Carson last sitting out and he had
Speaker 1: a nice workout against the Colts or at pregame at
Speaker 1: the Colts game, and you know, he ended up being
Speaker 1: our day one starter, so a very similar situation. And uh,
Speaker 1: he did a nice job with the workout, and then
Speaker 1: we'll just keep him coming. What's the plan here for
Speaker 1: these next few days? I mean, Hanking, what's the message
Speaker 1: to the players? Yeah, you know the message and really
Speaker 1: the message here in the in the locker room tonight
Speaker 1: was you know, I appreciate I appreciate all their efforts
Speaker 1: throughout camp and really throughoutas and and there were some
Speaker 1: some great efforts. Uh you know, the effort tonight was there,
Speaker 1: um and and and really it's I wanted them to
Speaker 1: make decisions tough on us, you know, and and these
Speaker 1: battles that you guys are are talking about, we wanted
Speaker 1: to make it, make it tough, make these make these
Speaker 1: decisions hard, and um, you know, these next these next
Speaker 1: two days will be very important obviously for our football
Speaker 1: team and really the lives of you know, some young
Speaker 1: men that that were eventually gonna have to let go. Thanks,
Speaker 1: thank you. All right, so welcome back to the postgame
Speaker 1: Show presented by Rico. There's head coach Doug Pearson addressing
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Speaker 1: regular season opener against Washington on September tenth. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: back to the postgame show, presented by Rico Chris McPherson
Speaker 1: alongside fran Duffy. Doug Pierson addressed the media and not
Speaker 1: to be big picture topics. I think we're gonna hear
Speaker 1: from Doug on Monday, but everyone now is eyeing the
Speaker 1: Saturday roster cutdown again. Heals have to get to the
Speaker 1: fifty three player maximum by four PM. One player who
Speaker 1: I think we can pretty much safely say it's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the team, Patrick Robinson at cornerback to me,
Speaker 1: it was a situation where we talked about this earlier.
Speaker 1: The Eagles knew what he is. The Eagles have seen
Speaker 1: him in the slot. They see him on the outside,
Speaker 1: they just had to kind of figure out at this
Speaker 1: point seeing the other guys where he would fit into
Speaker 1: the mix. And Doug Peterson pretty much saying that they
Speaker 1: feel real comfortable with him in the slot. So it
Speaker 1: looks like to open the season at least Jim Shorte
Speaker 1: will have that as an option for him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. And I think you can also throw in
Speaker 1: what he said at the end, which he said, Hey,
Speaker 1: we feel really good and comfortable with Patrick Robinson the slot,
Speaker 1: and also what we got from McDougall here. So I
Speaker 1: think when he threw that in there, I think that
Speaker 1: shows that they have some faith in Dexter McDougall, who
Speaker 1: they did trade for this past weekend. So I'll be
Speaker 1: really interested to see who ends up making it from
Speaker 1: that secondary because you mentioned some of these names, and
Speaker 1: a guy like Jaylen Watkins. You know, he's got the
Speaker 1: ability to play safety, he could play corner, he could
Speaker 1: play out side. You know, does he have the ability
Speaker 1: to play nicol at a high level. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: shown that he can play all three. He's played special
Speaker 1: teams for this team in the past. I'll be very
Speaker 1: interested to see if he's on the outside looking in
Speaker 1: once we get to the end of Saturday. But a
Speaker 1: player that really stood out tonight, and I thought, if
Speaker 1: you're going to pick a player that stood out tonight,
Speaker 1: he might have been number one. And he flashed early,
Speaker 1: all right. So other positions of note that Doug addressed
Speaker 1: in his press conference. He talked about running back Dannelle
Speaker 1: Pumphrey basically said they need to go through all of
Speaker 1: his touchet from the OTAs you know, said there was
Speaker 1: a real smart football player. They kind of put a
Speaker 1: lot on his plate early on. I mean I remember
Speaker 1: beginning a training camp, we would see him in those
Speaker 1: two back sets, the pony set with Darren Sprowles, and
Speaker 1: it pretty much made it seem like that they're going
Speaker 1: to try to work somehow work him onto the field.
Speaker 1: So whether that or not is still the case, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But it's not just a four game evaluation
Speaker 1: for Pumphrey. They pretty much you have to go back
Speaker 1: and look at the entire body of work from the
Speaker 1: time that he arrived in rookie camp. Yeah, no question,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to look at all of his touch
Speaker 1: is from the start of the summer until now. And
Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be a big thing
Speaker 1: for Donna L. Pumphrey and his chance to make this
Speaker 1: football team. And it's like you mentioned earlier, it's not
Speaker 1: just about twenty seventeen, it's about what can he do
Speaker 1: for this team in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen and beyond.
Speaker 1: If they don't feel that, if they don't feel that
Speaker 1: strongly about him that right now at this point, then
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't make it. But all overall, I think
Speaker 1: when you look at the body of work and what
Speaker 1: he's done over the course of his career in college too. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a great summer. It wasn't exactly what he
Speaker 1: would have expected out of himself, but I don't I
Speaker 1: still think that there's talent there with Donall Pumphrey. We
Speaker 1: saw some flashes of it tonight. Hope to see more
Speaker 1: of it in the future. Interesting names brought up by
Speaker 1: Doug when he was asked who shined a wide receiver tonight.
Speaker 1: He started out with Bryce Trekes, who had a great
Speaker 1: start to the preseason, balled injury, and then made a
Speaker 1: couple of nice plays tonight helped get the Eagles in
Speaker 1: position to possibly tie the game. Or win the game.
Speaker 1: They're late. Eagles couldn't come through, came up just short.
Speaker 1: But still, you know, we look at the Eagle roster,
Speaker 1: a wide receiver so much better than a year ago,
Speaker 1: it might just be a numbers game for Tregs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, And you got to give a lot of
Speaker 1: credit to Mike Grow, the receiver's coach, for what he's
Speaker 1: been able to do with a guy like Bryce Tregs.
Speaker 1: All these players at that position have gotten so much
Speaker 1: better over the course of this offseason. And when you
Speaker 1: look at Tregs, he's gotten better. It's a route runner.
Speaker 1: He's gotten more consistent at the catch point. He got
Speaker 1: better as a blocker. He saw that big block he
Speaker 1: made against Green Bay. He ended up getting fined for it,
Speaker 1: but we'll leave that alone. I think what Bryce Treggs
Speaker 1: has gotten better in every single facet of his game,
Speaker 1: and the fact that he is where he is right now,
Speaker 1: I think it's a testament to him and it's a
Speaker 1: testament to Mike Row because honestly, going into the summer,
Speaker 1: I think he was kind of an afterthought by most
Speaker 1: of us, wasn't really given a shot really to make
Speaker 1: this fifty three and He's really kind of put his
Speaker 1: stamp on this summer and now I think he's very
Speaker 1: much in the mix. Certainly definitely in the mix, and
Speaker 1: he could be one of those guys who, if he
Speaker 1: doesn't make the Eagles roster, probably could have picked up
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Again, he was a waiver claim for the
Speaker 1: Eagles a year ago and spent his workie season with
Speaker 1: the team. The last bit news from Ducks conference the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback position. Very confident Nick Foles is going to
Speaker 1: be the guy. He had a pregame workout and you
Speaker 1: picked up on something that Doug said comparing it to
Speaker 1: a Carson Wentz workout from a year ago. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: thought that that was a great answer by Doug, and
Speaker 1: it's true because honestly, only matters what the coaches feel
Speaker 1: and what they have all the information on Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: and they know what he's capable of mentally, They know
Speaker 1: how he feels about this system and how well he's
Speaker 1: been able to comprehend it during his time here. He's
Speaker 1: been in the system before, and they know all the
Speaker 1: things that are going on with his injury. If he
Speaker 1: had a good workout today, which Doug Peterson said, he
Speaker 1: did before the game. They don't feel the need to
Speaker 1: expose him to any kind of extra injury there against
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. They've got their starting defense out
Speaker 1: there against your backup offensive line. No need to put
Speaker 1: Nick Foles out there. If you feel good about him
Speaker 1: being your backup quarterback, give him another week of rest.
Speaker 1: He'll be able to rep with the starters and the
Speaker 1: backups this week in practice. Let's get Nick Foles completely healthy.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any issue there. Went just ruined
Speaker 1: the preseason for everyone last year. First game performance goes
Speaker 1: out there against Tampa Bay, plays a couple of cores,
Speaker 1: cracks some ribs, doesn't play the rest of preseason, and
Speaker 1: you know the rookie from the FCS school as your
Speaker 1: day one starter, who thunkin all right, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: our last breakup on the other side, should we preview
Speaker 1: the match up with Washington? I can do that all day.
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Speaker 1: looking at the schedule. Finally, it's the regular season September tenth,
Speaker 1: a Fedics Field and landover in Maryland. The Eagles have Yeah.
Speaker 1: I said a little problem with Washington last couple of seasons,
Speaker 1: so hopefully maybe this time around the love Kirk Cousins number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really fun game to watch because
Speaker 1: it's a division rival. Week one, A lot on the line.
Speaker 1: Very early in this season for both teams. Washington had
Speaker 1: a lot of turnover. They lose their offensive coordinator and
Speaker 1: Sean mcvayh They lose their their first NFL team in
Speaker 1: history to lose two thousand yard receivers in the same
Speaker 1: offseason in pr Garson and to Shaan Jackson. They lost
Speaker 1: some players on defense. They say it's a lot. There's
Speaker 1: a lot going on there. With Washington, they lost their
Speaker 1: center Spencer Long this summer and the preseason. So they've
Speaker 1: got rookie fifth round pick and Chase Rouyer starting their inside.
Speaker 1: The offensive line hasn't played well. Terrell Pryors had drives
Speaker 1: for weeks. I told you I could do this all day. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's It's gonna be a fun game though, because Washington
Speaker 1: their offense, They've They've got a lot going on for
Speaker 1: them in terms of the way that they use all
Speaker 1: their tight ends. They do a lot of different things
Speaker 1: in terms of their formation variation and taking advantage of matchups.
Speaker 1: So it will be a fun game to watch. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see how both teams perform on third down
Speaker 1: because that was so big for both teams last year.
Speaker 1: In that game, the the Washington Redskins really got after
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. They tried to blitz him twenty three third
Speaker 1: down passes for Carson Wentz last year in those two games.
Speaker 1: Four team blitz is from Washington, so I would expect
Speaker 1: more of the same this year from the Redskins. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, go back to Carson Wentz. Remember the first
Speaker 1: game down there, who was the right tackle Holpuli body
Speaker 1: vitizes first NFL game, first NFL start, and obviously he
Speaker 1: had the rough beginning with Ryan Kerrigan being Brent Selleck
Speaker 1: for the first act. You know, Wentz's jersey was ripped,
Speaker 1: you know, which is a real bad start to that game,
Speaker 1: and it seems like they've never gotten track. And then
Speaker 1: you also have to figure when you're looking at Washington
Speaker 1: and its offense. Sure, Jay Gruden is the offensive mine
Speaker 1: to head coach, but they lost Sean mcbagh, the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator who had done wonders with Kirk Cousins. He's now
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Los Angeles Rams. The Eels
Speaker 1: will see him later on in the year. But you
Speaker 1: mentioned that they lost Pierre Garson to Shawan Jackson. Jordan
Speaker 1: Reid has been banged up throughout the course of his career.
Speaker 1: You know, how are the Eals going to be able
Speaker 1: to defend the firepower and will Kirk Cousins be the
Speaker 1: same guy. I mean, it seems like that every year
Speaker 1: now with Kirk Cousins. It's some kind of drama regarding
Speaker 1: the contract. He's back under the franchise tag once again.
Speaker 1: He kind of knows he ys to have another big
Speaker 1: year to justify being signed by somebody long term. So
Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be some pressure on him to
Speaker 1: go off this season on the right foot. And you
Speaker 1: don't have the security blanket around you on the outside,
Speaker 1: could make a world of difference. Yeah, And they were
Speaker 1: depending on Josh Doxon, who was their first round pick
Speaker 1: a year ago in twenty sixteen. He's missed most of
Speaker 1: the summer again with another injury, another hams string and
Speaker 1: groin injury for him. So that's going to be an
Speaker 1: issue for them as they go into this regular season.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna be able to rely on Josh shox
Speaker 1: And if not, you've got Terrelle Pryor, who again is
Speaker 1: his first year in the system. Is not the same
Speaker 1: kind of player as what they had in Pierre Garson
Speaker 1: or in DeShawn Jackson. Just a different skill set from
Speaker 1: Terrell Prior and then you've got Ryan Grant, You've got
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder in the slot. They've got pieces. Their tight
Speaker 1: ends are very dynamic. I'll be very interested to see
Speaker 1: what they're able to do offensively because this pass rush
Speaker 1: for the Eagles going up against this Washington offensive line,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be probably the make or break
Speaker 1: matchup in this entire game. I'm excited to see a takeout.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see Fletcher Cox against Brandon Shuff.
Speaker 1: That's a heavyweight showdown right off the bat. You know,
Speaker 1: Schurff played out standing football in two AS sixteen. I
Speaker 1: think he could argue at the better of Cox in
Speaker 1: the matchups last year. Butcher Cox is gonna be looking
Speaker 1: to prove something this season, and you have Tim journa
Speaker 1: get down next to him helping take some of the
Speaker 1: pressure off. That should help out number ninety one that
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Speaker 1: to the fifty three player maximum. Howie Roseman will address
Speaker 1: the media and the press conference. We will carry that
Speaker 1: for you live here on Saturday afternoon once all the
Speaker 1: roster moves have been made, and then really you're gonna
Speaker 1: want to stay tuned all day Sunday because once the
Speaker 1: waiver wire goes through, the Eagles are gonna be picking
Speaker 1: up and kind of fixing some of those final spots
Speaker 1: on the roster, so it's not going to be completely settled.
Speaker 1: They can also formulate their practice squads. So Sunday, you're
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Speaker 1: then we'll hear from head coach Doug Pearson. He's scheduled
Speaker 1: to speak to the media on Monday, kind of once
Speaker 1: everything is shaken out just a little bit, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a wild weekend and then we get ready
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