1 00:00:04,078 --> 00:00:07,358 Speaker 1: The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:15,758 --> 00:00:18,518 Speaker 1: Hey Daron, welcome back. You have found the most interesting 3 00:00:18,558 --> 00:00:21,278 Speaker 1: podcast on baseball on the planet. It's The Book of 4 00:00:21,398 --> 00:00:24,838 Speaker 1: Joe with Me, Tom Berducci and Joe Madden and Joe. 5 00:00:24,878 --> 00:00:28,758 Speaker 1: This is a special day. This is episode number one 6 00:00:28,878 --> 00:00:31,558 Speaker 1: hundred of the Book of Joe. And they said it 7 00:00:31,598 --> 00:00:32,758 Speaker 1: would never last. Joe. 8 00:00:32,918 --> 00:00:36,078 Speaker 2: Congratulations Tommy. It's all happening because of you. You'd put 9 00:00:36,078 --> 00:00:38,158 Speaker 2: this thing together on a weekly basis. You do a 10 00:00:38,198 --> 00:00:38,918 Speaker 2: great job with it. 11 00:00:38,998 --> 00:00:40,558 Speaker 3: You permit me to. 12 00:00:40,678 --> 00:00:44,678 Speaker 2: Just show up and respond to your preparation, which is excellent. 13 00:00:44,758 --> 00:00:46,918 Speaker 2: So for me to you what you differ our book 14 00:00:46,918 --> 00:00:49,278 Speaker 2: and what you're doing for this podcast, I just sing, 15 00:00:49,918 --> 00:00:51,398 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. Thank you. 16 00:00:51,838 --> 00:00:55,598 Speaker 3: He's always coaching, this guy. He's always coaching I am. 17 00:00:55,638 --> 00:00:56,678 Speaker 2: I can't help it. 18 00:00:56,678 --> 00:00:59,638 Speaker 3: You always keeping the team spirits up. 19 00:00:59,958 --> 00:01:02,118 Speaker 1: Waity a second, we got somebody on the line here. 20 00:01:02,438 --> 00:01:05,078 Speaker 1: I was thinking, Joe, where can I find a special 21 00:01:05,158 --> 00:01:09,118 Speaker 1: guest for a one hundredth episode? Who I'm not gonna 22 00:01:09,118 --> 00:01:11,558 Speaker 1: ask for much here? Born within two months of you, 23 00:01:12,478 --> 00:01:18,318 Speaker 1: loves coffee, loves diners, collects classic cars. The best I 24 00:01:18,318 --> 00:01:22,758 Speaker 1: could come up with is mister Jerry Seinfeld. Jerry, welcome 25 00:01:23,078 --> 00:01:23,958 Speaker 1: to the Book of Joe. 26 00:01:24,238 --> 00:01:26,358 Speaker 3: Thank you, Tom, Thank you Joe. Great to be on 27 00:01:26,438 --> 00:01:26,678 Speaker 3: with you. 28 00:01:27,118 --> 00:01:30,958 Speaker 1: And listen. You've done everything in the entertainment business. Movies, 29 00:01:30,998 --> 00:01:34,358 Speaker 1: you've written books. There was a little comedy show you 30 00:01:34,398 --> 00:01:36,758 Speaker 1: had on for a few years for a while. Yeah, 31 00:01:36,798 --> 00:01:40,318 Speaker 1: you've got an honorary doctorate of Humane letters, which I'm 32 00:01:40,358 --> 00:01:44,598 Speaker 1: sure is just amazing. Cocktail chatter, did substand up too? 33 00:01:46,238 --> 00:01:48,918 Speaker 1: A little bit of stand up? Yeah, but dopeing nervous. 34 00:01:48,958 --> 00:01:51,158 Speaker 1: You're on the Book of Joe, so really welcome, We're on. 35 00:01:51,638 --> 00:01:53,638 Speaker 1: We're just thrilled to have you on here. 36 00:01:53,878 --> 00:01:55,238 Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. I'm thrilled too. 37 00:01:55,278 --> 00:01:58,038 Speaker 4: I don't get to talk baseball with such high end 38 00:01:58,558 --> 00:02:00,558 Speaker 4: individuals such as yourselves. 39 00:02:00,918 --> 00:02:03,238 Speaker 3: I love what I like about the reason I agreed 40 00:02:03,278 --> 00:02:03,678 Speaker 3: to do this. 41 00:02:03,918 --> 00:02:05,798 Speaker 4: What I like about you two guys is you're so 42 00:02:05,998 --> 00:02:10,158 Speaker 4: clearly overqualified for what you focus your attention on, and 43 00:02:10,158 --> 00:02:12,798 Speaker 4: that's kind of people I like. You could have had 44 00:02:12,998 --> 00:02:18,958 Speaker 4: such productive, sophisticated careers, but instead you went down the 45 00:02:19,078 --> 00:02:23,718 Speaker 4: ladder downstream to this ridiculous game that we're obsessed with 46 00:02:23,878 --> 00:02:25,518 Speaker 4: and gave your life to it. 47 00:02:25,558 --> 00:02:27,678 Speaker 3: I love that Thank you so much for that. 48 00:02:27,758 --> 00:02:30,278 Speaker 2: Right it started early, man, absolutely, but you're you're pretty 49 00:02:30,318 --> 00:02:32,558 Speaker 2: much on the same page. You've been kind of married 50 00:02:32,598 --> 00:02:35,398 Speaker 2: to this game for a long time yourself, haven't you baseball? 51 00:02:35,518 --> 00:02:38,518 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, yes, very long time, very long time. 52 00:02:39,238 --> 00:02:41,478 Speaker 4: It's a funny thing when you think back to your 53 00:02:41,598 --> 00:02:45,038 Speaker 4: childhood and you think, what was I doing sitting there 54 00:02:45,118 --> 00:02:48,158 Speaker 4: late at night, falling asleep watching these games? You know, 55 00:02:48,598 --> 00:02:51,158 Speaker 4: for me it was the Mets in the mid sixties. Well, 56 00:02:51,158 --> 00:02:54,878 Speaker 4: that's a whole conversation. What is it about baseball that 57 00:02:55,278 --> 00:03:01,678 Speaker 4: causes obsession? I think it's geometry, and well, all sports 58 00:03:01,678 --> 00:03:05,198 Speaker 4: are physics, but I think there's a geometry to baseball 59 00:03:05,398 --> 00:03:11,438 Speaker 4: that is so exceptional, so unique, and it's unaffected by time. 60 00:03:11,718 --> 00:03:15,358 Speaker 3: That's what I love about it that I still can't believe. 61 00:03:15,798 --> 00:03:20,078 Speaker 4: Sometimes when you see a third basement or a shortstop 62 00:03:20,558 --> 00:03:23,558 Speaker 4: go deep into a hole and make a throw, and 63 00:03:24,238 --> 00:03:28,758 Speaker 4: the closeness of the runner and the ball and the replay, 64 00:03:28,838 --> 00:03:31,718 Speaker 4: it's just so amazing. People don't stop and think about 65 00:03:32,158 --> 00:03:35,958 Speaker 4: how could this still be so or steal a second, 66 00:03:35,958 --> 00:03:39,078 Speaker 4: how could this still be so close? You know, within 67 00:03:39,318 --> 00:03:40,678 Speaker 4: a second, a split second. 68 00:03:40,958 --> 00:03:43,718 Speaker 1: I love that you brought that up, Jerry, because ninety 69 00:03:43,718 --> 00:03:47,758 Speaker 1: feet between bases, that's as perfect as man has come to, 70 00:03:48,118 --> 00:03:51,518 Speaker 1: really perfection. And if the game was ninety one feet 71 00:03:51,558 --> 00:03:54,478 Speaker 1: between the basis, somehow I don't know, wouldn't seem the same. 72 00:03:55,358 --> 00:03:56,838 Speaker 3: I think inches would change it. 73 00:03:57,038 --> 00:03:58,038 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. 74 00:03:58,278 --> 00:04:00,438 Speaker 2: It also speaks to the fact that in the athletes 75 00:04:00,558 --> 00:04:03,318 Speaker 2: since whatever nineteen hundred and nineteen ten, nineteen twenty, kind 76 00:04:03,318 --> 00:04:06,718 Speaker 2: of and equally the same, right maybe armsprnts have been 77 00:04:07,278 --> 00:04:10,478 Speaker 2: somewhat equally the same in order to throw people out. 78 00:04:10,518 --> 00:04:12,598 Speaker 2: A lot of times we used to as a scout 79 00:04:12,598 --> 00:04:14,718 Speaker 2: you would time runners. The first space for the right 80 00:04:14,718 --> 00:04:16,118 Speaker 2: hand to hit her out of the box would be 81 00:04:16,158 --> 00:04:18,518 Speaker 2: four point three, for the lefty be four point two, 82 00:04:18,918 --> 00:04:20,838 Speaker 2: and that would come from the moment you would anticipate 83 00:04:20,918 --> 00:04:24,118 Speaker 2: contact as a scout, and part of that would be 84 00:04:24,158 --> 00:04:26,038 Speaker 2: like how long does it take to turn of double play? 85 00:04:26,438 --> 00:04:29,518 Speaker 2: So all these things have kind of remained constant. Pop 86 00:04:29,558 --> 00:04:32,118 Speaker 2: time the second base on a steel pretty much right 87 00:04:32,158 --> 00:04:33,958 Speaker 2: around two flat, and if you get a picture that 88 00:04:34,038 --> 00:04:35,998 Speaker 2: dumps you the ball in like one to three, you're 89 00:04:35,998 --> 00:04:37,438 Speaker 2: there at three three, three, be four, you have a 90 00:04:37,478 --> 00:04:39,238 Speaker 2: chance to throw somebody out. But it's always been that 91 00:04:39,238 --> 00:04:41,798 Speaker 2: way when I came up in the seventies, in the eighties, 92 00:04:41,838 --> 00:04:43,998 Speaker 2: that's pretty much what you're trying to do, and you're 93 00:04:43,998 --> 00:04:46,358 Speaker 2: still trying to do that today. So regardless of how 94 00:04:46,438 --> 00:04:49,598 Speaker 2: much bigger guys have gotten and apparently stronger, when it 95 00:04:49,598 --> 00:04:51,518 Speaker 2: comes down to movement and how will you move and 96 00:04:51,518 --> 00:04:53,238 Speaker 2: how well you can throw and how your body moves 97 00:04:53,238 --> 00:04:55,718 Speaker 2: and works, there's a lot of similarities for the last 98 00:04:55,718 --> 00:04:56,518 Speaker 2: one hundred years. 99 00:04:56,958 --> 00:04:59,398 Speaker 4: That's why you know, we're in the middle of I 100 00:04:59,398 --> 00:05:01,078 Speaker 4: don't know when this show drops, but we're in the 101 00:05:01,078 --> 00:05:04,038 Speaker 4: middle of the Olympics now and we're coming into the 102 00:05:04,038 --> 00:05:06,998 Speaker 4: track and field, which I'll bet anything both of you 103 00:05:07,038 --> 00:05:10,678 Speaker 4: guys are fascinated by as I am, because it's such 104 00:05:10,718 --> 00:05:16,278 Speaker 4: a pure sport, watching sprinters and runners against each other, 105 00:05:16,318 --> 00:05:20,398 Speaker 4: against the clock. And nothing has changed obviously about the 106 00:05:20,398 --> 00:05:25,478 Speaker 4: one hundred meters since Athens, Greece and you know, centuries ago. 107 00:05:26,118 --> 00:05:30,558 Speaker 4: So it's those kind of things, anything that can escape 108 00:05:30,278 --> 00:05:34,678 Speaker 4: the deterioration of chronology. You know, there's a lot of games. 109 00:05:34,678 --> 00:05:37,598 Speaker 4: I don't want to dump on other games that we know. 110 00:05:37,998 --> 00:05:41,518 Speaker 4: It's kind of ridiculous. Now, go ahead, they're dumb. You're 111 00:05:41,598 --> 00:05:44,078 Speaker 4: just watching me and go, this is dumb. This basket 112 00:05:44,478 --> 00:05:45,798 Speaker 4: that's ten foot off the ground. 113 00:05:45,918 --> 00:05:48,358 Speaker 3: This is dumb. This game is dumb. Now, no argument. 114 00:05:50,438 --> 00:05:53,038 Speaker 1: Yeah, because guys were getting to what six foot eight, 115 00:05:53,158 --> 00:05:57,478 Speaker 1: six foot nine? Now there's seven foot four in the basket. 116 00:05:57,558 --> 00:06:00,558 Speaker 1: Still ten feet Yeah, the courts too darn small too. 117 00:06:00,678 --> 00:06:03,758 Speaker 1: But you can't say that about baseball. Somehow they got 118 00:06:03,758 --> 00:06:05,958 Speaker 1: it right. Yeah, like the original version. 119 00:06:06,198 --> 00:06:06,878 Speaker 3: They nailed it. 120 00:06:07,078 --> 00:06:08,198 Speaker 1: How often does that happen? 121 00:06:08,718 --> 00:06:11,038 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question. Let's get right into 122 00:06:11,118 --> 00:06:16,438 Speaker 4: the things that we really hate. Please, my two top things. 123 00:06:16,478 --> 00:06:19,798 Speaker 4: The thing I hate the most, but there's nothing even 124 00:06:20,038 --> 00:06:24,398 Speaker 4: close is on field interviews during games. 125 00:06:26,118 --> 00:06:26,958 Speaker 3: That's so good. 126 00:06:27,198 --> 00:06:29,638 Speaker 4: You want to talk about stupid, You want to talk 127 00:06:29,678 --> 00:06:34,678 Speaker 4: about insulting a person's focus. I remember Tom. You might 128 00:06:34,718 --> 00:06:38,598 Speaker 4: remember this guy's name. He was a reliever for the Mets. 129 00:06:38,678 --> 00:06:41,398 Speaker 4: He was in the bullpen. He was kind of a 130 00:06:41,438 --> 00:06:43,558 Speaker 4: funny guy. So they like to get him on camera. 131 00:06:43,598 --> 00:06:45,878 Speaker 4: He's no longer. Do you know what I'm thinking of? 132 00:06:45,958 --> 00:06:46,598 Speaker 4: I can't remember. 133 00:06:46,638 --> 00:06:48,718 Speaker 1: You're not going back to Turk Windell, are you? 134 00:06:48,798 --> 00:06:51,038 Speaker 3: Oh? No, no, I'm going back to like last year. 135 00:06:51,758 --> 00:06:55,238 Speaker 4: Oh, he was kind of funny anyway, So they talking 136 00:06:55,278 --> 00:06:58,358 Speaker 4: to him in the bullpen, you know, doing on camera. 137 00:06:58,798 --> 00:07:00,958 Speaker 4: And as a comedian, I'm not an athlete, but there's 138 00:07:00,998 --> 00:07:04,598 Speaker 4: a lot more similarities to sport in the stand up 139 00:07:04,638 --> 00:07:09,078 Speaker 4: comedy than any of the other arts because of it's live, 140 00:07:09,158 --> 00:07:13,358 Speaker 4: it's in person, and the score is obvious to everyone watching. 141 00:07:13,918 --> 00:07:18,398 Speaker 4: That's that's what makes stand up comedy very similar to athletics. 142 00:07:18,758 --> 00:07:22,598 Speaker 4: And so I know a lot about focus and routine 143 00:07:22,718 --> 00:07:27,278 Speaker 4: and preparation and flow and how you prepare. 144 00:07:27,958 --> 00:07:30,038 Speaker 3: You don't prepare when you get to the mound. 145 00:07:30,158 --> 00:07:34,358 Speaker 4: The game starts way before that and they're talking to 146 00:07:34,398 --> 00:07:36,558 Speaker 4: this guy, Trevor something. 147 00:07:38,958 --> 00:07:41,118 Speaker 3: May, Trevor May. Yeah, yeah, I get it. 148 00:07:41,158 --> 00:07:43,638 Speaker 4: So they had this interview with him, and so the 149 00:07:43,678 --> 00:07:45,838 Speaker 4: guy is trying to be funny, and he's a funny guy. 150 00:07:45,918 --> 00:07:48,278 Speaker 4: And then he goes into the game and I'm thinking, myself, 151 00:07:48,318 --> 00:07:52,518 Speaker 4: this guy is screwed because he's been using the part 152 00:07:52,558 --> 00:07:57,158 Speaker 4: of his brain that is about speech and language and thinking, 153 00:07:57,238 --> 00:07:59,318 Speaker 4: and that is not the part you want to be 154 00:07:59,438 --> 00:08:02,358 Speaker 4: in when you're pitching. You want to be in flow, 155 00:08:02,638 --> 00:08:05,638 Speaker 4: which is not left brain, it's right brain. And he 156 00:08:05,958 --> 00:08:08,398 Speaker 4: went out and just got shelled, and I thought, oh, 157 00:08:08,438 --> 00:08:10,838 Speaker 4: but that's not even nearly as bad as when they 158 00:08:10,878 --> 00:08:13,758 Speaker 4: talk to these guys while they're playing. Wasn't there a 159 00:08:13,798 --> 00:08:17,998 Speaker 4: pop up recently on the left side between a shortstop 160 00:08:18,078 --> 00:08:21,438 Speaker 4: and a third baseman and they dropped it because they 161 00:08:21,438 --> 00:08:23,078 Speaker 4: were talking to the booth. 162 00:08:23,398 --> 00:08:25,758 Speaker 1: Well, I know, yeah, Key k Hernanz and the Dodgers. 163 00:08:25,758 --> 00:08:27,318 Speaker 1: They were talking to him and he made an error 164 00:08:27,318 --> 00:08:27,958 Speaker 1: at third base. 165 00:08:28,318 --> 00:08:30,998 Speaker 3: Yes, I thought, okay, maybe this will end this stupidity. 166 00:08:31,278 --> 00:08:33,718 Speaker 1: Jerry, I guess you're not digging my pregame interviews or 167 00:08:33,798 --> 00:08:36,798 Speaker 1: in game interviews in the dugout for Fox. Thanks for that. 168 00:08:37,238 --> 00:08:39,438 Speaker 3: Uh, No, they're great. 169 00:08:40,158 --> 00:08:42,678 Speaker 2: Well, I say, it's as a manager in a dugout, 170 00:08:42,878 --> 00:08:45,038 Speaker 2: and we've done I was doing that for years when 171 00:08:45,038 --> 00:08:45,918 Speaker 2: that came on board. 172 00:08:45,918 --> 00:08:47,758 Speaker 3: I was always uncomfortable with that. 173 00:08:47,758 --> 00:08:50,198 Speaker 2: Just like kind of like Jerry's kind of indicating like 174 00:08:50,238 --> 00:08:51,758 Speaker 2: you have your mindset on one thing, all of a 175 00:08:51,758 --> 00:08:54,398 Speaker 2: sudden you unplugged, right, and you know it's in between innings. 176 00:08:54,398 --> 00:08:57,118 Speaker 2: It's in between innings, okay, But nevertheless, I mean, how 177 00:08:57,118 --> 00:09:00,278 Speaker 2: do you respond to these things? And again, uh, the 178 00:09:00,358 --> 00:09:02,838 Speaker 2: pertinency of them, even like football, like when football coaches 179 00:09:02,918 --> 00:09:05,918 Speaker 2: run off the field or basketball coaches sometimes they just 180 00:09:05,918 --> 00:09:07,798 Speaker 2: want to take a swat at the reporter base. You know, 181 00:09:07,838 --> 00:09:10,358 Speaker 2: especially if things aren't going that well baseball, it's a 182 00:09:10,358 --> 00:09:12,518 Speaker 2: little bit a little bit less emotionally. You could step 183 00:09:12,558 --> 00:09:14,678 Speaker 2: aside a little bit take a breath because the game's 184 00:09:14,718 --> 00:09:18,598 Speaker 2: not actually happening at that point. But it's always difficult 185 00:09:18,598 --> 00:09:21,718 Speaker 2: whenever you have to unplug from whatever your like, your 186 00:09:22,558 --> 00:09:24,758 Speaker 2: method of concentration, your flow, whatever you want to call 187 00:09:24,798 --> 00:09:26,678 Speaker 2: it is, it's weird. And then you got to you 188 00:09:26,678 --> 00:09:28,878 Speaker 2: got to put yourself back in there. And part of 189 00:09:28,918 --> 00:09:30,958 Speaker 2: it is just okay, so my time is at my turn, 190 00:09:31,238 --> 00:09:33,198 Speaker 2: somebody patch you on the back with the headset, all 191 00:09:33,238 --> 00:09:35,878 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and it's it's even the moment's 192 00:09:35,918 --> 00:09:38,758 Speaker 2: leading up to it that you know it's going to happen. Tommy, 193 00:09:38,758 --> 00:09:40,758 Speaker 2: I mean, I listen. I asked Tommy before we started, 194 00:09:41,238 --> 00:09:43,918 Speaker 2: what's it like doing those interviews at second base before 195 00:09:43,958 --> 00:09:46,278 Speaker 2: the game, and he said, like, you get to answer 196 00:09:46,318 --> 00:09:49,118 Speaker 2: for yourself, Tommy. But I always wondered, how awkward is 197 00:09:49,158 --> 00:09:52,718 Speaker 2: that for you, let alone the person you're interviewing. 198 00:09:53,278 --> 00:09:55,638 Speaker 1: Well, Jerry, you're one hundred percent right, because I told 199 00:09:55,718 --> 00:09:59,398 Speaker 1: Joe this story. I prepped Charlie Blackman before an All 200 00:09:59,438 --> 00:10:01,438 Speaker 1: Star game I was going to talk to him before 201 00:10:01,478 --> 00:10:04,158 Speaker 1: he stepped in against Chris Sale, which is so sort 202 00:10:04,158 --> 00:10:06,238 Speaker 1: of like, you know, trying to cross the New Jersey 203 00:10:06,278 --> 00:10:08,878 Speaker 1: Turnpike of rush hour and you're facing Chris Sale as 204 00:10:08,878 --> 00:10:12,078 Speaker 1: a left handed hitter, and he's like, oh cool, I'll 205 00:10:12,078 --> 00:10:15,158 Speaker 1: definitely do it. But when the moment actually happened and 206 00:10:15,158 --> 00:10:17,598 Speaker 1: he's getting ready to step in the box against Chris Sale, 207 00:10:17,638 --> 00:10:20,198 Speaker 1: he had his game face on and I felt very 208 00:10:20,238 --> 00:10:22,838 Speaker 1: awkward asking him like, what's your approach going to be? 209 00:10:22,998 --> 00:10:25,198 Speaker 1: And his answer was probably like just stay alive, but 210 00:10:25,718 --> 00:10:28,238 Speaker 1: he kind of blacked out. He was so much into 211 00:10:28,238 --> 00:10:31,158 Speaker 1: game modes. So you're absolutely right, it's a different part 212 00:10:31,198 --> 00:10:32,558 Speaker 1: of the brain that's being used. 213 00:10:33,518 --> 00:10:36,838 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just find it very disrespectful and it's just 214 00:10:36,918 --> 00:10:42,158 Speaker 4: too I'm all for promotion. I love gigantic billboards in 215 00:10:42,238 --> 00:10:46,318 Speaker 4: the outfield. I love any dumb, I love the Savannah bananas. 216 00:10:46,358 --> 00:10:49,638 Speaker 4: I love promoting the game. It's show business. You got 217 00:10:49,678 --> 00:10:53,918 Speaker 4: to promote, promote. You're promoting people something they don't really need, 218 00:10:53,958 --> 00:10:56,118 Speaker 4: but you are trying to convince them that they do. 219 00:10:56,758 --> 00:10:59,078 Speaker 3: But this this thing, I can't. 220 00:10:58,958 --> 00:11:02,318 Speaker 1: Stand straight ahead. You can tell Jerry is a baseball 221 00:11:02,358 --> 00:11:05,358 Speaker 1: purist and he loves the fun metals, But what does 222 00:11:05,398 --> 00:11:08,838 Speaker 1: he think of one of my biggest complaints about baseball. 223 00:11:20,838 --> 00:11:22,998 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Book of Joe. We are speaking 224 00:11:23,078 --> 00:11:27,358 Speaker 1: with noted Mets fan and comedian Jerry Seinfeld. Jerry, as 225 00:11:27,438 --> 00:11:30,158 Speaker 1: long as were Aaron Grievance is here. You're the perfect 226 00:11:30,158 --> 00:11:33,038 Speaker 1: guy to bring this one up to. When we walked 227 00:11:33,078 --> 00:11:35,518 Speaker 1: into the office of Bruce Bochie for the All Star 228 00:11:35,598 --> 00:11:40,198 Speaker 1: Game and saw Bruce Bouchie wearing those All Star uniforms, 229 00:11:40,238 --> 00:11:45,718 Speaker 1: Bruce Bochie in beij and Daglo Orange. I mean, that 230 00:11:45,878 --> 00:11:46,678 Speaker 1: was a sight to see. 231 00:11:46,878 --> 00:11:50,478 Speaker 4: I was a fan of the uniforms. I know they 232 00:11:50,558 --> 00:11:54,118 Speaker 4: weren't that popular. I thought they were cool. Whoever you 233 00:11:54,158 --> 00:11:56,598 Speaker 4: know did those graphics. I just thought I thought it 234 00:11:56,638 --> 00:11:58,518 Speaker 4: was cool. But I know it wasn't a hit. 235 00:11:58,838 --> 00:12:00,798 Speaker 2: So you did like the uniforms, That's that's interesting. 236 00:12:00,918 --> 00:12:02,558 Speaker 3: I did. I liked him. I thought they looked I 237 00:12:02,598 --> 00:12:03,398 Speaker 3: thought they were great. 238 00:12:03,478 --> 00:12:06,438 Speaker 2: I thought they if you're playing softball, they're outstanding. I mean, 239 00:12:06,438 --> 00:12:09,358 Speaker 2: I've saying when I played for the YNPA, the Young 240 00:12:09,398 --> 00:12:12,038 Speaker 2: Men's Polish Association, we would have really dug those things. 241 00:12:12,038 --> 00:12:12,998 Speaker 3: But when you're. 242 00:12:12,798 --> 00:12:15,078 Speaker 2: Out there on the field and you walk out there 243 00:12:15,078 --> 00:12:16,798 Speaker 2: with your own uniform under. I said, there's a sense 244 00:12:16,838 --> 00:12:18,398 Speaker 2: of pride when I was there with the Rays, so 245 00:12:18,478 --> 00:12:20,038 Speaker 2: it's like eight or nine of us with the Rays 246 00:12:20,038 --> 00:12:22,518 Speaker 2: and then with the Cubs, same thing. They stand out there, 247 00:12:22,518 --> 00:12:24,038 Speaker 2: you know, you're pretty hot. You guys have done a 248 00:12:24,078 --> 00:12:25,598 Speaker 2: good job and you get to wear your uniform and 249 00:12:25,638 --> 00:12:28,518 Speaker 2: you like to count how many guys were in that uniform. Yeah, 250 00:12:28,598 --> 00:12:31,158 Speaker 2: I don't know, And there's there's certain there's certain components 251 00:12:31,198 --> 00:12:33,238 Speaker 2: of it. I mean, I'm kind of a traditionalist, I think, 252 00:12:33,318 --> 00:12:35,558 Speaker 2: kind of like you are too. But there's certain parts 253 00:12:35,598 --> 00:12:38,238 Speaker 2: of it I'm willing to bend with. But other parts 254 00:12:38,798 --> 00:12:40,358 Speaker 2: I don't know. And this is just a uniform. 255 00:12:40,438 --> 00:12:40,998 Speaker 3: I get it. 256 00:12:40,918 --> 00:12:44,598 Speaker 2: It's very superficial. But as having been on the field 257 00:12:44,598 --> 00:12:46,878 Speaker 2: with it, I like going out there with my my 258 00:12:46,998 --> 00:12:50,158 Speaker 2: regular clothes on and I like seeing my my teammates 259 00:12:50,198 --> 00:12:51,278 Speaker 2: with the same uniform on. 260 00:12:51,318 --> 00:12:55,278 Speaker 3: Two. Yeah, definitely, it's definitely cool. 261 00:12:55,398 --> 00:12:58,758 Speaker 1: I agree well as a Mets fan, Jerry, do you 262 00:12:58,798 --> 00:13:00,838 Speaker 1: want to see Pete Alonzo in a Mets uniform with 263 00:13:00,918 --> 00:13:03,198 Speaker 1: the All Star Game or just it's a different kind 264 00:13:03,198 --> 00:13:05,398 Speaker 1: of game, so you should be wearing a different kind 265 00:13:05,398 --> 00:13:05,758 Speaker 1: of fit. 266 00:13:06,838 --> 00:13:09,998 Speaker 3: I don't think it matters that much. That's where superficially 267 00:13:09,998 --> 00:13:10,238 Speaker 3: it is. 268 00:13:10,998 --> 00:13:13,718 Speaker 1: Speaking of uniforms, Jerry, I mean, I got to ask you. 269 00:13:13,758 --> 00:13:16,318 Speaker 1: One of your great of many contributions to the game 270 00:13:16,358 --> 00:13:19,238 Speaker 1: of baseball is the bit you have about rooting for 271 00:13:19,278 --> 00:13:23,598 Speaker 1: the laundry. I mean, that's just absolutely brilliant, which definitely 272 00:13:23,798 --> 00:13:29,398 Speaker 1: nails fandom in one line. I know that bit you had. 273 00:13:29,998 --> 00:13:31,918 Speaker 1: I'm first aware of it anyway. I think it was 274 00:13:31,958 --> 00:13:36,198 Speaker 1: season six around the mid nineties. Tell me about like 275 00:13:36,278 --> 00:13:38,558 Speaker 1: the genesis of a bit like that and that one 276 00:13:38,598 --> 00:13:41,718 Speaker 1: in specific, Where did it come from? How long does 277 00:13:41,758 --> 00:13:44,358 Speaker 1: it kind of percolate before you actually nail it. 278 00:13:44,998 --> 00:13:47,318 Speaker 4: They're all different, you know, some of them that just 279 00:13:47,398 --> 00:13:50,878 Speaker 4: come out of your mouth perfect, some of them. I'm 280 00:13:50,918 --> 00:13:53,518 Speaker 4: doing a bit on poker now that it just doesn't 281 00:13:53,558 --> 00:13:55,838 Speaker 4: want to work and I will not give up. And 282 00:13:55,918 --> 00:13:59,078 Speaker 4: I've been at it at least eighteen months, at least 283 00:13:59,158 --> 00:14:02,238 Speaker 4: seventy five or one hundred different versions of it. But 284 00:14:02,278 --> 00:14:04,478 Speaker 4: that's the fun of stand up. You can take as 285 00:14:04,478 --> 00:14:06,558 Speaker 4: long as you want. Nobody cares, nobody even knows you're 286 00:14:06,558 --> 00:14:10,318 Speaker 4: doing it and redoing it and rewriting it, and it's 287 00:14:10,438 --> 00:14:16,478 Speaker 4: just it fits an obsessive, compulsive type energy that I have, 288 00:14:16,638 --> 00:14:20,998 Speaker 4: and I just do it for myself and for people 289 00:14:21,038 --> 00:14:24,398 Speaker 4: that appreciate these things. But that bit with the laundry, 290 00:14:24,518 --> 00:14:27,918 Speaker 4: I remember being in a car coming from Newark Airport 291 00:14:28,038 --> 00:14:30,718 Speaker 4: and hearing it a sports radio guy talk about it. 292 00:14:30,958 --> 00:14:34,158 Speaker 4: I had never heard anybody talk about anything I was saying. 293 00:14:34,638 --> 00:14:37,438 Speaker 4: I think that was like a seventy nine or eighty 294 00:14:37,518 --> 00:14:40,598 Speaker 4: I wrote that bit, and I was just getting on 295 00:14:40,638 --> 00:14:43,958 Speaker 4: TV a little bit, and I was so I still 296 00:14:43,958 --> 00:14:46,918 Speaker 4: remember that moment of hearing them on sports talk radio 297 00:14:46,998 --> 00:14:50,078 Speaker 4: talk about it, and that was such a gigantic thrill 298 00:14:50,198 --> 00:14:53,038 Speaker 4: for me that anybody would even talk about anything I 299 00:14:53,118 --> 00:14:55,638 Speaker 4: had said. So that yeah, and it is funny how 300 00:14:55,638 --> 00:15:00,158 Speaker 4: they still talk about it. Well, here's the thing, Joe, 301 00:15:00,158 --> 00:15:02,118 Speaker 4: maybe you can answer and help me with this one. 302 00:15:03,558 --> 00:15:08,038 Speaker 4: Show me a guy's batting average against another team. 303 00:15:08,798 --> 00:15:12,278 Speaker 3: What the hell difference does it? What does that mean? 304 00:15:12,718 --> 00:15:15,718 Speaker 4: I don't understand why I would care about that. 305 00:15:15,718 --> 00:15:18,478 Speaker 3: That team is again, it's not a team. 306 00:15:18,598 --> 00:15:21,478 Speaker 4: It's only a team for that year, right, And then 307 00:15:21,518 --> 00:15:24,558 Speaker 4: they say, oh, he's always hit the twins. 308 00:15:24,598 --> 00:15:26,238 Speaker 3: Well what are you talking about? 309 00:15:26,478 --> 00:15:28,798 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, some weirdly I mean, I agree 310 00:15:28,798 --> 00:15:31,878 Speaker 2: with you, but then I'd say, Weirdly, sometimes some guys 311 00:15:31,918 --> 00:15:35,238 Speaker 2: just play against well against a different uniform, a certain uniform. 312 00:15:35,358 --> 00:15:37,998 Speaker 2: I've seen it happen from a pitcher's perspective. Really, they 313 00:15:38,638 --> 00:15:41,758 Speaker 2: just shove on a particular uniform and vice versa. I 314 00:15:41,798 --> 00:15:44,278 Speaker 2: don't put a lot of stock into it, but I've 315 00:15:44,278 --> 00:15:48,598 Speaker 2: seen it happen. It's just weirdly. You go to a 316 00:15:48,598 --> 00:15:52,358 Speaker 2: certain ballpark, maybe you like the background, maybe your confidence 317 00:15:52,478 --> 00:15:55,478 Speaker 2: level feels different, you breathe more comfortably. Whatever it might be, 318 00:15:56,118 --> 00:15:58,998 Speaker 2: it happens. It really does have I again, I'm not 319 00:15:58,998 --> 00:16:02,198 Speaker 2: putting any weight behind it, and it just happens. It frequently, 320 00:16:02,278 --> 00:16:04,878 Speaker 2: doesn't happen very often, but I've seen it happened where 321 00:16:05,038 --> 00:16:07,958 Speaker 2: pitchers might pitch well against a certain group, hitters might 322 00:16:07,998 --> 00:16:10,358 Speaker 2: hit well against a certain group. But overall, I don't 323 00:16:10,358 --> 00:16:11,918 Speaker 2: think it really has a whole lot of substance. 324 00:16:11,958 --> 00:16:13,038 Speaker 3: I totally agree with you on that. 325 00:16:13,238 --> 00:16:15,358 Speaker 1: What do you think, Tom, I think as a junk 326 00:16:15,398 --> 00:16:19,038 Speaker 1: stat I agree with Joe that for whatever reason, there's 327 00:16:19,438 --> 00:16:22,918 Speaker 1: you know somebody you saw Chipper Jones as a Mets fan, right, Yeah, 328 00:16:22,998 --> 00:16:24,878 Speaker 1: I mean he was killing the Mets every year yeah, 329 00:16:24,918 --> 00:16:27,638 Speaker 1: you know, different pictures. It wasn't the same pictures. There 330 00:16:27,718 --> 00:16:30,638 Speaker 1: was something weird to it, But in general I agree 331 00:16:31,038 --> 00:16:33,398 Speaker 1: these things are You're not going to play better just 332 00:16:33,438 --> 00:16:37,238 Speaker 1: because of that. So if I can, Jerry, I want 333 00:16:37,238 --> 00:16:39,558 Speaker 1: to get back to uniforms for a second, because you 334 00:16:39,678 --> 00:16:43,038 Speaker 1: presaged this whole Nike nonsense where we had see through 335 00:16:43,158 --> 00:16:46,518 Speaker 1: pants this year from Major League Baseball and sweat stains 336 00:16:46,558 --> 00:16:49,118 Speaker 1: that showed up on these new uniforms which they're gonna 337 00:16:49,118 --> 00:16:51,638 Speaker 1: have to fix next year. And obviously we're going back 338 00:16:51,678 --> 00:16:54,598 Speaker 1: to George Costanza, the assistant to the traveling secretary for 339 00:16:54,638 --> 00:16:58,718 Speaker 1: the Yankees, and the cotton uniform shrinking. I don't know 340 00:16:58,758 --> 00:17:01,758 Speaker 1: if you saw that this year, Jerry, but you talk 341 00:17:01,798 --> 00:17:04,078 Speaker 1: about hearing about the laundry on the radio this you're 342 00:17:04,078 --> 00:17:06,958 Speaker 1: at Yankee Stadium. They had a a Seinfeld Night and 343 00:17:06,998 --> 00:17:08,998 Speaker 1: a Castanza bobblehead giveaway. 344 00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:10,838 Speaker 3: I saw that, and they're giving. 345 00:17:10,598 --> 00:17:14,078 Speaker 1: Away eighteen thousand dollars in a forty five thousand seat 346 00:17:14,158 --> 00:17:18,078 Speaker 1: ballpark and people were lined up only in the afternoon 347 00:17:18,118 --> 00:17:18,518 Speaker 1: for that. 348 00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:22,118 Speaker 3: How does that make you feel pretty damn good? 349 00:17:22,318 --> 00:17:27,118 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we're talking about chronology and baseball. 350 00:17:27,358 --> 00:17:32,238 Speaker 4: You know, to overcome time is the greatest victory I 351 00:17:32,278 --> 00:17:35,158 Speaker 4: think of any person. We throw the word classic around 352 00:17:35,278 --> 00:17:38,038 Speaker 4: or why does the Hall of Fame matter, It's just 353 00:17:38,118 --> 00:17:43,918 Speaker 4: that means you overcame the greatest disadvantage we all have, 354 00:17:44,438 --> 00:17:48,158 Speaker 4: which is time, and you can't. To be popular in 355 00:17:48,198 --> 00:17:50,638 Speaker 4: a moment is one thing, but to be popular out 356 00:17:50,638 --> 00:17:53,078 Speaker 4: of your moment, you know, that's kind of it. 357 00:17:53,318 --> 00:17:56,238 Speaker 3: I think. You know. My kid said to me the 358 00:17:56,278 --> 00:17:57,358 Speaker 3: other day. He's eighteen. 359 00:17:57,838 --> 00:18:00,118 Speaker 4: He says, Dad, I know I'm late on this, and 360 00:18:00,198 --> 00:18:02,958 Speaker 4: I know this sounds crazy, but I just realized the 361 00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:05,238 Speaker 4: Beatles are really fantastic. 362 00:18:07,718 --> 00:18:09,078 Speaker 3: You know, that's the ultimate. 363 00:18:09,198 --> 00:18:11,238 Speaker 4: So when I saw the Yankees were doing that day, 364 00:18:11,318 --> 00:18:13,958 Speaker 4: I really I mean, I sometimes I want to drop 365 00:18:13,998 --> 00:18:14,838 Speaker 4: down to a knee. 366 00:18:14,598 --> 00:18:17,118 Speaker 3: And go, good God, how the hell did that happen? 367 00:18:17,198 --> 00:18:17,718 Speaker 3: Pretty cool? 368 00:18:17,758 --> 00:18:20,118 Speaker 4: But I love that they wrote on the bibble Head 369 00:18:20,198 --> 00:18:21,598 Speaker 4: assistance to the Traveling Second. 370 00:18:21,838 --> 00:18:21,998 Speaker 2: Yeah. 371 00:18:22,078 --> 00:18:24,438 Speaker 4: Yeah, we checked at the time that there was no 372 00:18:24,598 --> 00:18:27,798 Speaker 4: such job, you know, and that's made us. 373 00:18:27,998 --> 00:18:30,318 Speaker 3: That's what we loved about. It's so funny. Yeah. 374 00:18:30,438 --> 00:18:33,518 Speaker 2: The one thing that stands out about you to me, Jared, 375 00:18:33,678 --> 00:18:36,358 Speaker 2: is that you're kind of a traditionalist when it comes 376 00:18:36,358 --> 00:18:37,678 Speaker 2: to the game and you love the game, and you've 377 00:18:37,678 --> 00:18:40,158 Speaker 2: been a Mets man and utilize both the Mets and 378 00:18:40,158 --> 00:18:42,198 Speaker 2: the Yankees and your show. And I'm here to tell you, 379 00:18:42,278 --> 00:18:45,198 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I watch. This is not an exaggeration. 380 00:18:45,318 --> 00:18:48,518 Speaker 2: I watch your replays almost nightly on Netflix. That's how 381 00:18:48,518 --> 00:18:51,078 Speaker 2: I go to bed. Quite frankly, I do. That's That's 382 00:18:51,118 --> 00:18:53,638 Speaker 2: not when I'm on the road. I put my pad 383 00:18:53,718 --> 00:18:55,998 Speaker 2: right in front of my face and I go to sleep. 384 00:18:56,038 --> 00:18:57,558 Speaker 2: And I do it here at home too, and I'm 385 00:18:57,598 --> 00:18:58,318 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. 386 00:18:58,358 --> 00:19:00,678 Speaker 3: But anyway, but you've seen them all. You've seen them all. 387 00:19:00,678 --> 00:19:02,398 Speaker 2: I've seen them all. I've seen them all. Then then 388 00:19:02,398 --> 00:19:05,518 Speaker 2: I quote you and I and I tell it you. 389 00:19:06,278 --> 00:19:09,158 Speaker 2: You compare and contrast the real, real world stuff to 390 00:19:09,198 --> 00:19:11,118 Speaker 2: what you guys had done. It was genius. 391 00:19:11,398 --> 00:19:14,318 Speaker 1: Wait wait a second, Jerry, I gotta back him up here. 392 00:19:14,318 --> 00:19:16,758 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you a great story about that. This 393 00:19:16,798 --> 00:19:19,158 Speaker 1: is a true story. It's the eighteen I think the 394 00:19:19,198 --> 00:19:21,438 Speaker 1: eighteen World Series. The Dodgers are playing the Red Sox. 395 00:19:21,478 --> 00:19:23,958 Speaker 1: Close play at first base with Cody Bellinger. Is he 396 00:19:23,998 --> 00:19:25,918 Speaker 1: out of the base line in the baseline gets hit 397 00:19:25,918 --> 00:19:28,558 Speaker 1: by a throw? Nobody really knows. I'm trying to find 398 00:19:28,558 --> 00:19:30,598 Speaker 1: out what the heck the rule is. I'm down the 399 00:19:30,598 --> 00:19:33,318 Speaker 1: field level as a sideline reporter. I'm texting people to 400 00:19:33,358 --> 00:19:36,478 Speaker 1: try to figure this thing out. Theo Epstein gets back 401 00:19:36,478 --> 00:19:38,998 Speaker 1: to me and he gives me this complicated answer about, yeah, 402 00:19:38,998 --> 00:19:41,278 Speaker 1: I saw the play, but the last step before the 403 00:19:41,278 --> 00:19:43,558 Speaker 1: guy hits the base, he's allowed to be in the lane. 404 00:19:43,798 --> 00:19:46,878 Speaker 1: All right, that's that's the answer I wanted. Joe gets 405 00:19:46,918 --> 00:19:49,238 Speaker 1: back to me and he says, I didn't see it. 406 00:19:49,598 --> 00:19:55,838 Speaker 1: I'm watching Seinfeld. It's the World Series and he's watching 407 00:19:55,878 --> 00:19:58,638 Speaker 1: the Seinfeld rerun. I swear to God. 408 00:20:00,358 --> 00:20:00,958 Speaker 3: It is true. 409 00:20:01,038 --> 00:20:03,878 Speaker 2: No, I'm listen. I mean, there's nothing else really worth watching. 410 00:20:04,598 --> 00:20:06,558 Speaker 2: Everything else is too complicated, and you go and you 411 00:20:06,638 --> 00:20:07,678 Speaker 2: go to bed all upset. 412 00:20:08,638 --> 00:20:11,398 Speaker 1: Coming up, we are going to ask Jerry about the 413 00:20:11,398 --> 00:20:15,838 Speaker 1: new rules of baseball and what is his nightly baseball routine. 414 00:20:16,118 --> 00:20:30,398 Speaker 1: Does Jerry actually watch more baseball than we do? Welcome 415 00:20:30,398 --> 00:20:33,558 Speaker 1: back to the Book of Joe Podcasts. We are talking 416 00:20:33,558 --> 00:20:37,038 Speaker 1: with Jerry Seinfeld and Jerry, you're obviously a huge fan 417 00:20:37,078 --> 00:20:39,798 Speaker 1: of the game traditions. You watch us as you are 418 00:20:39,798 --> 00:20:43,198 Speaker 1: a kid. So among all the new rules, what rules 419 00:20:43,238 --> 00:20:45,878 Speaker 1: would you keep and what rules would you get rid of. 420 00:20:48,878 --> 00:20:51,998 Speaker 4: I have to say, I think we're all good with 421 00:20:52,038 --> 00:20:54,198 Speaker 4: the time clock. I think we all feel that that 422 00:20:54,358 --> 00:21:00,718 Speaker 4: has improved the experience. Bigger bases, those kinds of things 423 00:21:00,758 --> 00:21:05,198 Speaker 4: make me more uncomfortable. Although I'll say this, and I 424 00:21:05,238 --> 00:21:09,518 Speaker 4: hope you guys don't get upset, but I'm starting to 425 00:21:09,758 --> 00:21:13,198 Speaker 4: really think about robo umps and you know, you watch 426 00:21:13,278 --> 00:21:16,758 Speaker 4: tennis and you go, that's the way it should be, 427 00:21:16,958 --> 00:21:19,638 Speaker 4: you know, just like that that was a strike, that 428 00:21:19,718 --> 00:21:20,438 Speaker 4: was not a strike. 429 00:21:20,878 --> 00:21:25,078 Speaker 3: Let's have the umpire there. But it seems like it's 430 00:21:25,118 --> 00:21:28,198 Speaker 3: time to do certain things. So I guess I'm not 431 00:21:28,318 --> 00:21:31,198 Speaker 3: in favor of the bigger bass. I do like the clock. 432 00:21:31,398 --> 00:21:35,358 Speaker 3: What are other new rules we're talking about? Shift? I 433 00:21:35,478 --> 00:21:38,998 Speaker 3: like the anti shift change. I'm in favor of that. 434 00:21:39,438 --> 00:21:40,918 Speaker 2: See, and I was one of the first guys to 435 00:21:40,998 --> 00:21:43,838 Speaker 2: do that, So I mean, that's neither here nor there. 436 00:21:43,838 --> 00:21:46,638 Speaker 2: I just thought that a change should occur organically with 437 00:21:46,678 --> 00:21:48,678 Speaker 2: the defense and the offense. That just teach your minor 438 00:21:48,758 --> 00:21:50,838 Speaker 2: league geterers to use the other side of the field. Yeah, 439 00:21:50,878 --> 00:21:52,558 Speaker 2: a little bit. I mean that That's how I looked 440 00:21:52,558 --> 00:21:55,198 Speaker 2: at it, But right that doesn't bother. What I do like, too, 441 00:21:55,278 --> 00:21:57,478 Speaker 2: is the anything that makes the game a little bit 442 00:21:57,518 --> 00:22:00,118 Speaker 2: more expeditious. The signs between the pitchers and the catchers. 443 00:22:00,158 --> 00:22:00,718 Speaker 3: I like that. 444 00:22:01,158 --> 00:22:02,758 Speaker 2: I do like that. I don't like the runner on 445 00:22:02,838 --> 00:22:03,918 Speaker 2: second and extra innings. 446 00:22:04,358 --> 00:22:05,718 Speaker 3: I don't like any of that. I don't like. 447 00:22:06,038 --> 00:22:09,238 Speaker 2: I thought that if we just did the pitch clock, 448 00:22:09,518 --> 00:22:12,358 Speaker 2: and then of course here came the science situation. The 449 00:22:12,398 --> 00:22:14,078 Speaker 2: biggest problem we've had with the game was the fact 450 00:22:14,118 --> 00:22:16,558 Speaker 2: that it moved too slowly. Yeah, these and the three 451 00:22:16,758 --> 00:22:18,758 Speaker 2: you can't throw more than twice over the first or 452 00:22:18,758 --> 00:22:20,318 Speaker 2: it's a back if you don't get them out. I mean, 453 00:22:20,318 --> 00:22:22,638 Speaker 2: those are the kind of things that anything that impacts 454 00:22:22,638 --> 00:22:25,318 Speaker 2: strategy I did not really That's what I don't like. 455 00:22:25,558 --> 00:22:28,198 Speaker 2: The other stuff I didn't think really impacted strategy. You 456 00:22:28,238 --> 00:22:30,558 Speaker 2: have to pitch the ball or or they signed guests 457 00:22:30,598 --> 00:22:33,358 Speaker 2: to the catcher to the pitcher more easily. That doesn't 458 00:22:33,398 --> 00:22:36,558 Speaker 2: impact strategy. The moment you start impacting strategy, then it 459 00:22:36,678 --> 00:22:40,758 Speaker 2: really limits the capacity of your manager or your coaching staff. 460 00:22:40,998 --> 00:22:44,038 Speaker 2: Somehow you're creating, you're creating a level or an equal 461 00:22:44,118 --> 00:22:47,638 Speaker 2: playing field that particular juncture literally, and so there's there 462 00:22:47,678 --> 00:22:51,118 Speaker 2: could be some advantages lost by just creating those kind 463 00:22:51,118 --> 00:22:51,598 Speaker 2: of rules. 464 00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:54,558 Speaker 4: Tom, What do you think about that little machine that 465 00:22:54,598 --> 00:22:57,518 Speaker 4: they have in their hat and the little keyboard on 466 00:22:57,558 --> 00:22:58,118 Speaker 4: their thigh. 467 00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:01,758 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Joe and that anything to help speed 468 00:23:01,838 --> 00:23:04,798 Speaker 1: up the game is great. And actually I hadn't learned 469 00:23:04,798 --> 00:23:07,678 Speaker 1: this until later on that technology they actually and I 470 00:23:07,678 --> 00:23:10,438 Speaker 1: hope I'm not giving much away here, actually stole that 471 00:23:10,478 --> 00:23:11,598 Speaker 1: from the world of magic. 472 00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:12,718 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 473 00:23:12,838 --> 00:23:16,998 Speaker 1: You know where you actually communicate that it's the vibrations 474 00:23:17,358 --> 00:23:20,158 Speaker 1: of these bones in your temple of your head that 475 00:23:20,238 --> 00:23:23,238 Speaker 1: can communicate and you can hear through the vibration of 476 00:23:23,278 --> 00:23:26,438 Speaker 1: those bones. So I like it, and I'm with you 477 00:23:26,598 --> 00:23:30,118 Speaker 1: Jerry on the on the maybe not a full on, 478 00:23:30,518 --> 00:23:33,718 Speaker 1: all on robo ump yeah, come, but getting calls right 479 00:23:33,798 --> 00:23:36,838 Speaker 1: Like in tennis the Hawkeye system, you get fan engagement 480 00:23:36,918 --> 00:23:39,718 Speaker 1: involved in that. It's very quick. So they have this 481 00:23:39,878 --> 00:23:41,878 Speaker 1: challenge system in the minor leagues where you get three 482 00:23:41,958 --> 00:23:44,998 Speaker 1: challenges a game. Yeah, the batter, catcher and pitcher. You say, hey, 483 00:23:45,038 --> 00:23:47,038 Speaker 1: wait a second, let's go to the robo ump on 484 00:23:47,078 --> 00:23:49,798 Speaker 1: that one. I wouldn't do it every pitch, but limited 485 00:23:50,038 --> 00:23:51,838 Speaker 1: usage of that, yeah, bring it on. 486 00:23:52,478 --> 00:23:56,678 Speaker 4: Let's talk about some smaller behaviors that we find irritating. 487 00:23:57,918 --> 00:24:03,118 Speaker 4: I'll start with pictures applauding with their glove when a 488 00:24:03,358 --> 00:24:07,958 Speaker 4: defensive player makes a nice play. You're the cool guys. 489 00:24:08,158 --> 00:24:11,438 Speaker 4: We do the applauding. You expect him to make that 490 00:24:11,558 --> 00:24:15,358 Speaker 4: play behind you. There's no applauding on the field. 491 00:24:16,118 --> 00:24:17,678 Speaker 2: Well, how about when they applaud the guy on the 492 00:24:17,718 --> 00:24:19,198 Speaker 2: other team for making a good catch. 493 00:24:19,838 --> 00:24:21,358 Speaker 3: That's the greatest moment. 494 00:24:21,758 --> 00:24:25,158 Speaker 4: The hat off for the stolen homer is one of 495 00:24:25,158 --> 00:24:26,558 Speaker 4: the greatest moments in sport. 496 00:24:26,718 --> 00:24:29,678 Speaker 3: It almost makes me well up. I think it's so nice. 497 00:24:30,558 --> 00:24:31,558 Speaker 2: Another worm fuzzy. 498 00:24:31,598 --> 00:24:34,998 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never been into that stuff. I've never which stuff. 499 00:24:35,558 --> 00:24:39,438 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, if it occurs on your team, 500 00:24:39,678 --> 00:24:41,878 Speaker 2: I don't remember specifically. Listen, I don't want to be 501 00:24:41,878 --> 00:24:43,598 Speaker 2: the seven year old here because there's things that have 502 00:24:43,718 --> 00:24:45,278 Speaker 2: changed a little bit. I don't know if it's for 503 00:24:45,358 --> 00:24:47,518 Speaker 2: good or for bad. But if a guy made a 504 00:24:47,518 --> 00:24:49,518 Speaker 2: good play, you might give him a naughter by the 505 00:24:49,518 --> 00:24:52,958 Speaker 2: time he came back in the dugga. You absolutely acknowledged it. Yeah, 506 00:24:52,998 --> 00:24:54,998 Speaker 2: But when you acknowledge somebody on the other team for 507 00:24:55,078 --> 00:24:57,678 Speaker 2: doing something, well, I can't deal with that. 508 00:24:57,718 --> 00:24:58,798 Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. 509 00:24:59,078 --> 00:25:01,758 Speaker 2: I can't I can't handle that. I don't understand that. 510 00:25:02,198 --> 00:25:04,598 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, even like for the game. I 511 00:25:04,638 --> 00:25:08,358 Speaker 2: mean before the game, you are not permitted to even 512 00:25:08,398 --> 00:25:10,278 Speaker 2: talk with guys on the other team. And that's the 513 00:25:10,358 --> 00:25:13,998 Speaker 2: fraternization policies were very severe back in the day, and 514 00:25:14,078 --> 00:25:17,118 Speaker 2: I guess they're not They're not considered. It's not considered 515 00:25:17,158 --> 00:25:20,198 Speaker 2: a bad thing to go out there and be kumbayau 516 00:25:20,238 --> 00:25:23,158 Speaker 2: with somebody behind second base before the game, right yeah. 517 00:25:23,238 --> 00:25:25,518 Speaker 2: I don't even like to go by the batting cage 518 00:25:25,518 --> 00:25:27,198 Speaker 2: before the game to talk to people that I know 519 00:25:27,278 --> 00:25:30,438 Speaker 2: for years, I'll stay away from that, and I don't 520 00:25:30,478 --> 00:25:32,078 Speaker 2: I don't take the lineup card up because I don't 521 00:25:32,078 --> 00:25:34,638 Speaker 2: want to like the umpires because I want to be 522 00:25:34,678 --> 00:25:37,278 Speaker 2: able to argue if I need to argue. I want 523 00:25:37,358 --> 00:25:39,798 Speaker 2: to not like you when I'm playing against you. So 524 00:25:39,878 --> 00:25:41,878 Speaker 2: these are the things that I find. I don't know 525 00:25:41,878 --> 00:25:44,758 Speaker 2: if the right word is offensive, but not. They they're 526 00:25:44,798 --> 00:25:48,078 Speaker 2: they're just they're fabrications. It's pandering to the other side 527 00:25:48,118 --> 00:25:50,238 Speaker 2: for whatever reason. And I just don't I don't dig 528 00:25:50,278 --> 00:25:50,558 Speaker 2: on it. 529 00:25:50,958 --> 00:25:54,518 Speaker 1: This conversation has been so amazing. We're actually going to 530 00:25:54,518 --> 00:25:56,878 Speaker 1: need to bring Jerry back for episode one. Oh one, 531 00:25:57,078 --> 00:26:00,798 Speaker 1: because one hundred hopefully you agree with this, Joe is 532 00:26:00,838 --> 00:26:02,398 Speaker 1: not enough. We want to bring him back. 533 00:26:02,718 --> 00:26:04,878 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, as as I had expected. 534 00:26:04,918 --> 00:26:07,198 Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is you know, he is who 535 00:26:07,238 --> 00:26:11,398 Speaker 2: he is, brilliant comedian. And then just from the conversations 536 00:26:11,478 --> 00:26:14,598 Speaker 2: during this first part of the two part series here 537 00:26:14,638 --> 00:26:17,638 Speaker 2: you could see how thoughtful he is, how introspective he 538 00:26:17,678 --> 00:26:19,478 Speaker 2: puts a lot of time. I'm just like into his 539 00:26:19,558 --> 00:26:23,398 Speaker 2: comedy and even talking about baseball absolutely has it broken 540 00:26:23,478 --> 00:26:26,678 Speaker 2: down and has strong opinions, which I love. So never 541 00:26:26,758 --> 00:26:29,078 Speaker 2: having met him before, I thought about this too. Listening 542 00:26:29,118 --> 00:26:31,838 Speaker 2: to him talking to him, it was comfortable and it's 543 00:26:31,878 --> 00:26:33,918 Speaker 2: and I thought, it's because I watch him every night 544 00:26:33,958 --> 00:26:36,278 Speaker 2: on TV. It's like it's like the voice of the 545 00:26:36,318 --> 00:26:38,638 Speaker 2: saying is the guy I watch every night. I listened 546 00:26:38,638 --> 00:26:41,998 Speaker 2: to him almost nightly, so it was very familiar and 547 00:26:42,038 --> 00:26:44,718 Speaker 2: it was very easy. And then seeing him in Mets 548 00:26:44,918 --> 00:26:48,958 Speaker 2: hats Keith and Nanis on the show George Costanz and 549 00:26:48,998 --> 00:26:52,718 Speaker 2: giving hated lessons to Bernie Williams and Derek Cheater, it 550 00:26:52,798 --> 00:26:55,438 Speaker 2: was just comfortable because I felt like I've known this guy. 551 00:26:55,918 --> 00:26:59,398 Speaker 2: And I think it's a product of two things. Number One, 552 00:26:59,518 --> 00:27:01,918 Speaker 2: watching the show and his love for the game, and 553 00:27:01,958 --> 00:27:04,358 Speaker 2: he's just he's got an easy way about him, very 554 00:27:04,398 --> 00:27:07,358 Speaker 2: like calm, comfortable, open. There's a lot of things that 555 00:27:07,398 --> 00:27:10,678 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed just about having all that stuff validated 556 00:27:10,678 --> 00:27:12,438 Speaker 2: by actually speaking to him through our interview. 557 00:27:12,598 --> 00:27:17,198 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a naturally funny, curious guy. I think he's 558 00:27:17,238 --> 00:27:18,238 Speaker 1: got a future in comedy. 559 00:27:18,758 --> 00:27:19,438 Speaker 2: He should try it out. 560 00:27:19,478 --> 00:27:21,278 Speaker 1: You've always come up with the perfect quotes of the 561 00:27:21,398 --> 00:27:23,998 Speaker 1: dead and their episodes. You got a tough task today 562 00:27:24,038 --> 00:27:27,518 Speaker 1: finishing episode one hundred with our guests Jerry Seinfeld. 563 00:27:27,518 --> 00:27:28,038 Speaker 3: What do you got? 564 00:27:28,318 --> 00:27:30,918 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about this for a bit and 565 00:27:31,598 --> 00:27:33,798 Speaker 2: there's several I mean, I came up with several things 566 00:27:33,798 --> 00:27:36,678 Speaker 2: that I really like, and once from George Monard Shaw, 567 00:27:37,158 --> 00:27:40,478 Speaker 2: once from Dennis weight Lee, and it really one's about 568 00:27:40,518 --> 00:27:44,038 Speaker 2: taking the way for opportunities, the other ones about taking risks. 569 00:27:44,398 --> 00:27:46,558 Speaker 2: But the thing that I really love is great things 570 00:27:46,598 --> 00:27:48,878 Speaker 2: never come from a comfort zone. From your comfort zones, 571 00:27:48,918 --> 00:27:51,318 Speaker 2: and you know when you talk to him, like you 572 00:27:51,398 --> 00:27:52,998 Speaker 2: and I have had this conversation, I don't know how 573 00:27:53,038 --> 00:27:55,318 Speaker 2: many times. To stay within your comfort zone, you will 574 00:27:55,358 --> 00:27:58,758 Speaker 2: never grow the warm, fuzzy stuff. You know, we're all 575 00:27:58,798 --> 00:28:01,438 Speaker 2: about routine and I love routine. I love my routine, 576 00:28:01,478 --> 00:28:03,318 Speaker 2: but you got to step outside of that routine. 577 00:28:03,358 --> 00:28:04,358 Speaker 3: And if you want to be great. 578 00:28:04,958 --> 00:28:06,438 Speaker 2: Talked about this, they have to be a little bit 579 00:28:06,478 --> 00:28:08,518 Speaker 2: crazy to be great. So that's it. I could go 580 00:28:08,598 --> 00:28:11,838 Speaker 2: so many different ways with this one, risk taking, whatever, 581 00:28:11,918 --> 00:28:13,758 Speaker 2: but it's all in there. I mean, you have to 582 00:28:13,798 --> 00:28:16,238 Speaker 2: be able to be firm enough in your conviction in 583 00:28:16,278 --> 00:28:18,638 Speaker 2: what you believe in the say it, even at the 584 00:28:19,038 --> 00:28:21,998 Speaker 2: concern that things think somebody may fire me, or like 585 00:28:22,038 --> 00:28:23,798 Speaker 2: they're gonna say you can't do this anymore, whatever it 586 00:28:23,878 --> 00:28:26,838 Speaker 2: might be. But you have to say what you think 587 00:28:27,158 --> 00:28:28,558 Speaker 2: and not necessarily what you've heard. 588 00:28:28,678 --> 00:28:31,038 Speaker 1: That's awesome and with all due respect, I want to 589 00:28:31,198 --> 00:28:33,678 Speaker 1: stay in our comfort zone. For episode one oh one, 590 00:28:33,958 --> 00:28:36,198 Speaker 1: we're going to bring Jerry back. There's so many more 591 00:28:36,278 --> 00:28:38,438 Speaker 1: questions we want to ask him. One of our favorite 592 00:28:38,438 --> 00:28:41,198 Speaker 1: topics on this show is talking about glue guys part 593 00:28:41,198 --> 00:28:43,958 Speaker 1: of a team, mostly baseball teams, but any kind of 594 00:28:44,078 --> 00:28:47,958 Speaker 1: band or show. I want to talk to Jerry about 595 00:28:47,998 --> 00:28:51,918 Speaker 1: the glue guys in Seinfeld. How cool will that be? Well, 596 00:28:51,958 --> 00:28:55,078 Speaker 1: we'll ask him about that and you'll have to listen 597 00:28:55,318 --> 00:28:58,078 Speaker 1: and look for the book of Joe Episode one on 598 00:28:58,078 --> 00:29:01,598 Speaker 1: one coming up next week. More with Jerry Sneinfeld. That 599 00:29:01,718 --> 00:29:02,398 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. 600 00:29:02,478 --> 00:29:05,238 Speaker 2: Joe, Let's do it again please, new brother, nice job. 601 00:29:18,038 --> 00:29:21,278 Speaker 1: The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio. 602 00:29:21,478 --> 00:29:26,478 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 603 00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:28,358 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.