1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. Every week at the end 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: of the week, we're going to open up the playbook. 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Laura and I are going to sit down and we're 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: going to discuss something. It could be a rant, it 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: could be something positive, it could be just something that's 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: on our mind that we want to get out there. 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: And so today we're opening up the playbook and we're 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: talking about I love you. I love you, Pepe, I 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: love you, I love you Man, I love this, I'm 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: falling in love with you. 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: I love this topic of I love you, because here's 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: really what we've had written down. It's very much from 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: the show. What is the difference between I love you, 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: I am falling in love with you, and I am 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: in love with you. This was a major qualm that 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: I had with Bachelor Bachelor at Bachelormaraieah for years of 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: covering the show. And actually when I first had like, 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 2: I had an issue with the phrase I am falling 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: in love with you because it's not something I've ever said. No, 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: it's not something I think is normal to say, and 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: if you people out there say it and they think 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: it's that, there's an important reason why please tell me. 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: But what I wanted to ask you, and I've got 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: to refer to you as as a bit older than 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: me on this one. 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Did you wiser, more experienced? 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay. 31 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: Did you all come up with that? Or is this 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: something that is normal in our society before The Bachelor, 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: the phrase I am falling in love with you? Or 34 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: was it something the Bachelor like got into the zeitgeist. 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: I think it's something that we unfortunately put into the zeitgeist. 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: I think it was a mechanism that we needed to 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: show that this relationship was progressing and it's something that 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: happens inside your head and inside your heart and you 39 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: can feel it as a couple, but you got to 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: articulate that so the audience knows, and so it's it 41 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: was a mechanism that we put in place, and it 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: wasn't on purpose. We didn't think, oh, we're going to 43 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: say this and therefore it will become a thing. But 44 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: it really, I think did become a thing of you know, 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: The Bachelor. 46 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: How you couldn't have the leads say I love you, 47 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: because then it would be like, well, he's picking that 48 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: you're in the fantasy. 49 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: But if you also needed something, you needed a caret 50 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: to dangle not only to the audience but also to 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: the woman of like, hey, buddy, why am I here 52 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: holding on when you're dating four other women? 53 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: Right? Show me that I that you care. 54 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm falling for you, I'm falling for you, I'm falling 55 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: for you, I'm really falling for you. 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: It is. 57 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: Again in the real world. I one hundred percent agree. 58 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: You're either in love with someone or you're not. Exactly 59 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: you're not. Just don't say anything. 60 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: This is why it makes no sense to me, because 61 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: if you're saying I'm falling in love with you or 62 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: I'm maybe I'll give a little bit more grace to 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm falling for you, like to me, that more so 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: says I'm really developing feelings for you. But if you're 65 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: saying I'm falling in love with you, doesn't that mean 66 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm in love with you? 67 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: It does? It does? 68 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 2: It just means it means if you're falling, you're hitting 69 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: the ground. Man, you're in the air. Ye. 70 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Gravity is undefeated, and it's never the fall. By the way, 71 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: it's always the landing that'll get you. And I agree, 72 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you is a really chicken 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: shit way of saying I love you, I'm in love 74 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: with you. 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: I agree, I'm too afraid to tell you. I want 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: to see how you're going to. 77 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: React, or I want to keep my options open. 78 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: Yes, I want to keep well. Definitely in the case 79 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: of the show, I want to keep my options open. 80 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 2: Or I want to see how you'll react so I 81 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: can sort of back away without getting hurt. I didn't 82 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: put myself out there too much. I'm interested in this 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: if people have heard I'm falling in love with you 84 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: in real dating situations. A. I'm interested in if the 85 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: show truly affected the dialogue of dating that's out there 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: and it's become a thing. And B how do you 87 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: feel about it? Are you okay with it? Have you 88 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: heard it from someone? Do you think it it is toxic? 89 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: Or not to say it? I now I'm trying to 90 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: think if I disagree with my own self, what do 91 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: you think of I'm falling for you me? Yeah, like, 92 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: would you could you hear that from someone? Do you 93 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: think it's just as bad as I'm falling in love. 94 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: It's not as bad. I'll say one is a and 95 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: then the other one's probably in the C level of 96 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you is again, I think 97 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: it's just cowardice and kind of chicken shit, I'm crazy 98 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment or something, or in 99 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: a letter like I'm crazy about you, I'm really crazy 100 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: about you, or yeah, falling for you, yeah, Like. I 101 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: think that can be it can be endearing, it can 102 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: be sweet. 103 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 2: Because also if someone said I love you too soon, 104 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: you think they're crazy. That's a red flag. So I 105 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 2: would rather hear I'm falling for you, or I really 106 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: like you, or I'm really into you. 107 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: I think there's a pretty wide gap between I'm crazy 108 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: about you, I'm really falling for you. I think what 109 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: it is I'm falling in love with you. 110 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: If you're using the L word, then you're using the 111 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: L word. 112 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: That's all they're hearing. By the way, the only the 113 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: only word in that sentence that your partner is hearing 114 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: is the L word. If you said to me early on, Chris, 115 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: i am really falling in love with you, you mean he like, 116 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: all I've just heard is she's in love with. 117 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Me, and you sound unhinged. 118 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, we wouldn't be sitting here. It's too early. But 119 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: and if we had gotten to the point when I 120 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: did say first I love you, If I had just 121 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: said that day, that morning, I'm I think I'm falling 122 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: in love with you. 123 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: If you had said that to me, I would have 124 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: laughed at you. I would have been like, this guy 125 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: is drinking his own kool aid. He's taking his job 126 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: way too seriously. It's way too real. What's he going 127 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: to do next? Hand me a rose apps, a freaking Really. 128 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: What if I had said, I really think we are 129 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: here for the right reasons, and I think I'm falling 130 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: in love with. 131 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: You, I would have said, am I on the show? 132 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: And I don't know is this? 133 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Would you show up with me while we were still 134 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: on the road on that trip or would would we 135 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: have broken up then? Or would you have waited till 136 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: we got home? 137 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: Oh, because any knows, Chris said I love you for 138 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: the first time when we were on a trip in Mexico. Okay. Oh, 139 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: if in that moment you'd said, I'm I'm here for 140 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: the right. 141 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: If I had just said, hey, babe, I really think 142 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: we are both here for the right reasons, and I 143 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: think I'm falling in love with you. You would have laughed, 144 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: you just would you. 145 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: I would have laughed. I mean I would have known 146 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: you weren't serious. But if you really were serious, like say, 147 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: we don'tly had a couple of dates and you said that, 148 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: I definitely would have ended it. I would have thought, 149 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: this is some Hollywood ahole who's just you know, getting 150 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: high on his own supply. 151 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: Using terrible lines from his own show. 152 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he does know the difference between 153 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: real and reality TV. Yeah, and by the way, if 154 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: you'd I don't know if this had happened, if I'd 155 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 2: said some of that stuff. Did you ever date anyone 156 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: who obviously when you got divorced and you started dating, 157 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: you were famous at that time, you were the host 158 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: of The Bachelor. Did women ever like use the lines 159 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: of the show on you or sort of almost seem 160 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: like they were acting out the fantasy of being on 161 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: the show when dating you? And was it scary? No? 162 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: But I always wondered if they were wondering that. I 163 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: always wondered if we would do something normal like go 164 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: to dinner, Heaven forbid, and I always wondered, are they 165 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: thinking why didn't he like pick me up in a 166 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: jet and we didn't fly to Fiji or San Francisco 167 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: or do something in a hot air balloon. So I 168 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: did always wonder in the back of their mind, are 169 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: they thinking really dinner? 170 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: It attracted me to you that you were normal in 171 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: the beginning, Like if you'd started all that stuff from 172 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: the beginning, I would have found it insincere. Yeah, you 173 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: did it later, would I, like. 174 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Laura and I do. This isn't just a podcast, this 175 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: is really my life. I got a text message as 176 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: you were out of town last night and you said, 177 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: f Mary kill. Oh. 178 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: I like that game. It's the game Shagmry kill and 179 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: you have to pick like you could say shag Mary 180 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: kill George Clooney and Matt. 181 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: Damon, but you said f Mary kill. The past, the present, 182 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: the future. 183 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes I like to pose deep questions over text. I 184 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: mostly do it when I'm at an airport alone, thinking 185 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: way too much. 186 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: Shagg Mary kill. I love you, I'm falling in love 187 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: with you. I'm falling for you kill. 188 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm falling in love with you, shag I'm falling for 189 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: you Mary. I love you. Right, that's the only answer 190 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: that is the correct answer. So you came up with 191 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: this for the show. Do you remember which season you 192 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: all started using it? 193 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: It was early on. It was very I mean, because 194 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: we just needed you had to articulate that to the audience. 195 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: It just made sense. 196 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: Did a lead ever want to say I love you 197 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: and you said you can't say that, but you can 198 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: say I'm falling in love with you? 199 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Oh? For sure? 200 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: Do you remember instances? 201 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: Many? There were many that wanted to say Probably Trista 202 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: was the first one back with Tristan. Ryan would easily 203 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: have said I love you to Ryan early on because 204 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: that was a slam dunk. And I think of some 205 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: others Jojo and Jordan probably, and there's many others I'm 206 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: forgetting that would have probably said that. 207 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: Ben Higgins infamously said I love you too more than 208 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: one person. 209 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: I wish I'd gotten to Ben after that. Uh huh, 210 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: But yeah, Ben, have. 211 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: You seen the show man if I'm falling in love 212 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: with you? 213 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: We ran that back a couple of times, where we 214 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: did it a couple more times, and I think they 215 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: took it on. We're like, oh, he said I love 216 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: you to more than one person. 217 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: Did you have to go back and say, Ben, you 218 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: got to say I love you more than one person 219 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: now because you've said it to someone. 220 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: No, we didn't know that was on him. Yeah, it 221 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: was really on Ben. He'll admit it. He was actually 222 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: and I love you Ben. He was really dumb enough 223 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: to do that and know it was going to be 224 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: on television. But when he did it, he's like, I'm screwed. 225 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm so screwed. 226 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that you sound just like Ben right now. 227 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: I feel like Ben does something and he goes, oh, 228 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: why did I do that? It's kind of his emo. 229 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: He's that guy who's like steps in a pile of dog, 230 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: you know what. And was like, oh, man, But somehow 231 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: he is so lovable because he's so honest about it. 232 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: You can't help but like him even more because he 233 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: just he does. He comes about it so honestly, and 234 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: he didn't mean to do that. It just it was 235 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: in his heart and he just said it. And as 236 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: soon as we heard it, we were like, oh God, 237 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: do you realize what just ask me? Yeah, but there 238 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: have been others and yeah, what we would try to 239 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: encourage them to do is say something glowing, you know, 240 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: And a lot of times again was the woman needed 241 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: to hear something or the man. It depends if it 242 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: was the bachelor bachelrette, they need to hear something to 243 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: keep them holding on as well, because it sucks when 244 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: you're one of twenty five. 245 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: Well, here's what I do think is a good takeaway 246 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: from the show about it all, And let's say everybody 247 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: put this in your playbook for real. You do have to. 248 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: There's a fine line. You don't want to have to 249 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: do it too much, but you have to tell people, 250 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: even early on in a relationship, I'm into you. That 251 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: was a huge part of the reason I fell for you. 252 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: I'll never forget after our very first date, you know, 253 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: it's our first date. We met for a drink. It 254 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: wasn't a he's picking me up situation. It was we're 255 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: two adults meaning for a drink, We're going to see 256 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: what happens. But just the simple fact that when I 257 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: got home, I had a text from you that said, hey, 258 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: wanted to make sure you got home. Okay. I had 259 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: a great time tonight. When can I see you again? 260 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: I remember thinking how refreshing this is a man who 261 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: just clearly is communicating how he feels. He's not playing 262 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: games with me. It's not in a way of it's 263 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: too much or it's weird, but he's just being clear 264 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: and assuring me and telling me this is how I 265 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: felt about tonight, and I'm confident enough to say that 266 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: without wondering how you're feeling. That was when I thought, Okay, 267 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: I like this guy. 268 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: And you don't have to worry about if they're on 269 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: the same page, because if they're not, they're not, and 270 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: you playing a game is not going to put them 271 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: on the. 272 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: Right No, true put yourself out there in the beginning 273 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: so you don't waste your own time. It's freeing. It's 274 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: not scary. 275 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: It's freeing because if you're both just playing a game, 276 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: it's going to come out at some point. Better it 277 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: comes out early than later. Hey, thanks for opening up 278 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the playbook with me. I love you, and I think 279 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: we've done away with I'm falling in love with you, 280 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: or at least I hope we have, and I hope 281 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed today. Tune in next week because we will 282 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: open up the playbook again. Until then, I'll talk to 283 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: you next time because we have a lot more to 284 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at 285 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: the most dramatic pod ever, and make sure to write 286 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: us a review and leave us five stars. I'll talk 287 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: to you next time.