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Speaker 1: welcome to tonight. You're at the volume. Happy Friday, everybody.
Speaker 1: Hope all you guys are having a great start to
Speaker 1: your weekend.
Speaker 2: Gonna hit both of tonight's games.
Speaker 1: The Denver Nuggets show some unbelievable championship medal, go into
Speaker 1: Minnesota and somehow do a worst number on them than
Speaker 1: Minnesota did to Denver in Game two and completely change
Speaker 1: the psychology of that series. Obviously a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do still to get the win if that's what
Speaker 1: they're interested in, but a very dominant first step in
Speaker 1: that direction tonight, and then the Indiana Pacers get a
Speaker 1: much needed win to avoid the the vonted three to
Speaker 1: zero hole against the New York Knicks to get another
Speaker 1: crazy clutch Knicks game that the Pacers escape on a
Speaker 1: game winner from Andrew Nemhard and a little bit of
Speaker 1: a grifty mistake from Jalen Brunson late.
Speaker 2: Two excellent playoff games.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit them both from the perspective of all
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Speaker 1: I was so excited for this game. Honestly, like the
Speaker 1: build up of the three full days off was actually
Speaker 1: kind of nice because it just kind of built the
Speaker 1: suspense for this specific game. I think these sourts of
Speaker 1: situations are what generate the great moments in NBA history.
Speaker 1: No one ever talked about a great moment in NBA
Speaker 1: history that was a sweep.
Speaker 2: No one ever did. Sweeps are boring, they're dominant.
Speaker 1: What really brings the memorable the NBA history moments the
Speaker 1: once we watch on NBA TV when we're watching old footage,
Speaker 1: the one we tell stories about. They usually involve some
Speaker 1: kind of adversity. This was one of the things, especially
Speaker 1: as a younger basketball fan as I was in the
Speaker 1: mid twenty tens, It's one of the things I didn't
Speaker 1: like about the KD Warriors. They just beat the shit
Speaker 1: out of everybody, and everyone was like it was cool
Speaker 1: and it was a beautiful brand of basketball, and obviously
Speaker 1: it was cool to see KD get to the mountaintop,
Speaker 1: but like they won fifteen straight playoff games, Like they
Speaker 1: won fifteen straight playoff games, so like it never had
Speaker 1: that real, that feeling of like overcoming adversity. And I
Speaker 1: got in trouble with some Nuggets fans yesterday for a
Speaker 1: social media clip where I basically said, hey, this is
Speaker 1: their first time with some real adversity, and everyone pointed out, well,
Speaker 1: what about the you know, trying to win with faku
Speaker 1: Compazo and and Will Barton, and it's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: those were that was bad shit happening to your team.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't adversity in the sense that there weren't
Speaker 1: There were no expectations on that team. No one on
Speaker 1: those teams, No one really expected Denver in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one or twenty twenty two to win with Nikola Jokic
Speaker 1: by himself. If anything, it was like incredibly impressive that
Speaker 1: he managed to beat that Portland team by himself. Right,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but we were down three to one in
Speaker 1: the bubble. It's like, yeah, but that was kind of
Speaker 1: your coming out party. No one really believed in in
Speaker 1: that core until that. But the bubble is where Jamal Murray,
Speaker 1: Nicole Jokic, that's where they kind of came to the
Speaker 1: forefront as the as the one of the next great
Speaker 1: kind of playoff corps that we see around the league.
Speaker 1: Right the last year was the first time there was
Speaker 1: real expectation on the Nuggets, and they passed with flying colors,
Speaker 1: dominated most of the regular season, dominated in the postseason.
Speaker 1: Came into this year, I thought it was a more
Speaker 1: than fine kind of Denver regular season. Most of the
Speaker 1: issues they had had to do with beating good teams
Speaker 1: without Jamal Murray, which again is difficult. Anytime you're without firepower,
Speaker 1: you're going to struggle against the good teams. But in
Speaker 1: this series, this is the first time they have faced
Speaker 1: true adversity where there's real expectations. You have the consensus
Speaker 1: best player in the world, you are favored to win
Speaker 1: the series, you have home court advantage, and you get
Speaker 1: your ass kicked in Game two to go down two
Speaker 1: before you head on the road to Minnesota. And again
Speaker 1: this is what These are the types of scenarios that
Speaker 1: breed those big moments. When you think back to the
Speaker 1: best moments of Steph Curry's career, what do you think
Speaker 1: you think about Game four against Boston in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two NBA Finals when Boston Stolehork home court from
Speaker 1: them and Boston beat them handling in Game three, and
Speaker 1: Game four was like, we have to win this game
Speaker 1: or we are going to lose the series. And Steph
Speaker 1: has forty something, they win, he gets Finals MVP, they
Speaker 1: win the trophy. That was an amazing moment, arguably the
Speaker 1: best moment of Steph Curry's career, and it happened because
Speaker 1: of adversity. In order for Lebron to go on the
Speaker 1: road into Boston and drop forty five and humiliate that
Speaker 1: team to tie the series and send it back to Miami,
Speaker 1: there had to be adversity. They had to fall down
Speaker 1: three games to two. They had to face a road
Speaker 1: close out game. That's why I love these moments, and
Speaker 1: that's why I was so excited for this particular game.
Speaker 1: This was our first chance to see what desperate Denver
Speaker 1: looked like.
Speaker 2: And Wow, that was unbelievable. They beat the shit out
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: They completely dominated them mentally and physically throughout the game.
Speaker 1: And I can't overstate how huge psychologically tonight was. Because
Speaker 1: when you have a long shot task in front of you,
Speaker 1: you need to believe that you can do it. Like
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get into Harvard Law, you better
Speaker 1: believe that you can do it, right, or you have
Speaker 1: no chance. You're trying to be a professional athlete. It's
Speaker 1: a one in a million shot, right, you better believe
Speaker 1: you can do it. And I thought it was so
Speaker 1: interesting after Game two when they had that practice and
Speaker 1: Mike Michael Malone was quoting stats, is like, yeah, something
Speaker 1: like this. Many teams have come back from down oh two.
Speaker 1: This smaller number of teams have come back from down
Speaker 1: oh two with losing the first two games at home.
Speaker 1: But what was the first thing he said after that?
Speaker 1: He's like, well, we've come down from three to one twice.
Speaker 1: You can tell there's just that little inkling of belief
Speaker 1: there at the beginning, Like, yeah, like having to win
Speaker 1: four games in five tries against a team that has
Speaker 1: like that's been literally constructed to beat us, That's a
Speaker 1: lot to ask. It's a very difficult challenge that lays
Speaker 1: in front of you, and you.
Speaker 2: Have to believe.
Speaker 1: And by virtue of going in there, you did two
Speaker 1: things tonight. You got the series to two to one,
Speaker 1: and you have effectively erased what happened in Game two,
Speaker 1: not in the standings from the standpoint of the way
Speaker 1: the series shook out, but simply in the psychological element
Speaker 1: of that game. That game, as Mike Michael Malone Michael
Speaker 1: Malone pointed out, was the game where Denver crumbled in
Speaker 1: a way he had never seen them crumble before. And
Speaker 1: the way they crumbled it they crumbled under physicality, they
Speaker 1: crumbled under intensity, they crumbled under emotion, and like getting
Speaker 1: into it, the refs, and like all of those factors
Speaker 1: shifted heavily towards Denver. In game three, they conquered those demons.
Speaker 1: Those demons popped up for one game and they immediately
Speaker 1: conquered them. In game two. You not only did you
Speaker 1: win in a domint fashion, you did so with your
Speaker 1: offense breaking out in a way that it couldn't in
Speaker 1: the first two games. You did so with Jamal Murray
Speaker 1: looking like Jamal Murray again. Twenty four points, twenty one,
Speaker 1: shots above fifty percent, shooting above forty percent from three
Speaker 1: that that is huge.
Speaker 2: You demonstrated I'm Jamal Murray.
Speaker 1: I can do this, and I think that's important because again,
Speaker 1: like coming out of that game, what did I say,
Speaker 1: everyone was talking about the calf, And everyone was talking
Speaker 1: about the calf again tonight, and I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: here and underplay that and pretend like three full days
Speaker 1: off doesn't help a guy with the calf injury. Of
Speaker 1: course it does. And he definitely looked physically good tonight.
Speaker 1: But the majority of the reason Jamal struggled in game
Speaker 1: two had to do with him getting into it with
Speaker 1: the refs and getting all worked up in emotional and
Speaker 1: he lost sight of the ultimate goal, and he played
Speaker 1: shitty basketball.
Speaker 2: That's why he lost.
Speaker 1: And in tonight's game, he handled the ball pressure better,
Speaker 1: he set up his man for screens better, from the
Speaker 1: from the opening tip, he just had a much more
Speaker 1: focused basketball, non emotional basketball approach, and he was able
Speaker 1: to flip the script. So many factors tilted his way
Speaker 1: and so many factors tilted Denver's way, and it completely
Speaker 1: changed the psychology of the series. I would argue you
Speaker 1: even won convincingly enough to do some damage to Minnesota's belief.
Speaker 1: That was the first time in seven postseason games that
Speaker 1: Minnesota looked like the regular season Timberwolves. There are reasons
Speaker 1: why I picked against Minnesota against Phoenix and why I
Speaker 1: picked against Minnesota versus Denver, and it had to do
Speaker 1: with actual things that happened on the court in the
Speaker 1: regular season. Bad shot selection, inconsistent defensive effort like foul trouble,
Speaker 1: all of these different things that ended up being issued
Speaker 1: from Minnesota periodically throughout the regular season. They have avoided
Speaker 1: those things in this postseason run, and man, did it
Speaker 1: look like they regressed in a big way tonight. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna get more into that later, but that to
Speaker 1: me is the other part of this. You tilted a
Speaker 1: lot of the mental dynamics in this series. So again,
Speaker 1: I just before we get into some of the more
Speaker 1: some of the more nitty gritty stuff with the basketball,
Speaker 1: I just was so excited for this game because this
Speaker 1: is where this stuff happens.
Speaker 2: This is where you get the cool moments.
Speaker 1: This is where when you tell the story of Nikola Jokic,
Speaker 1: You'll when you tell the story of Jamal Murray, when
Speaker 1: you tell the story of the Nuggets, you'll talk about
Speaker 1: these kinds of moments.
Speaker 2: Right. They're the moments when things aren't going well. When
Speaker 2: you look back, like.
Speaker 1: What's the least discussed championship in Lebron James's history, it's
Speaker 1: usually the Bubble. Why because they dominated the regular season,
Speaker 1: started twenty four and three, kicked everyone's butt, got into
Speaker 1: the postseason, kicked everyone's butt. Even though they beat good
Speaker 1: teams along the way, no one cared because they just
Speaker 1: dominated everybody. You know, what are the ones that everyone remembers.
Speaker 1: Coming back from three to one to beat Cleveland, Right,
Speaker 1: coming back from three to two to beat Boston, coming
Speaker 1: back from uh three two to beat San Antonio, Right,
Speaker 1: that's that's where these big, real moments in NBA his
Speaker 1: three come from. Let's talk about some of the basketball, though,
Speaker 1: because like one of the things that I thought was
Speaker 1: the defining characteristic of this game was if you had
Speaker 1: to come put it down to one specific thing, it
Speaker 1: would come down to Denver competing physically better. But that
Speaker 1: manifests in a bunch of different ways. And the main
Speaker 1: thing I want to focus on is how Denver got
Speaker 1: their offense working.
Speaker 2: Now. I actually thought one of the the we're going.
Speaker 1: To talk about it, Denver did a number on Minnesota's offense,
Speaker 1: and I've talked about that all series is what they
Speaker 1: have to do, and we're going to talk about that
Speaker 1: in a minute, but I want to start on the
Speaker 1: offensive end of the floor.
Speaker 2: First of all.
Speaker 1: One of the things I thought was interesting early is
Speaker 1: Chris Finch went back to Anthony Edwards on Jamal Murray.
Speaker 2: I thought that was really weird because started.
Speaker 1: On Jamal Murray in Game one and lost him like
Speaker 1: three times off the screens just in the first few minutes.
Speaker 1: And they pulled him off of Jamal at the first
Speaker 1: time out and they went to Jade McDaniels and Jade
Speaker 1: McDaniels did the majority of the work on Jamal Murray
Speaker 1: and game time two, and so it was really interesting
Speaker 1: to me that they went back in game three because
Speaker 1: he's not as good at this.
Speaker 2: Phase of his career.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of work to learn in terms
Speaker 1: of screen navigation, not as good as a screen navigator
Speaker 1: as Jaden McDaniels, right, So I thought that was a
Speaker 1: little weird, and that probably helped a little bit with
Speaker 1: Jamal getting that initial kind of set up. But regardless
Speaker 1: of what defender was on Jamal, whether it was Nikhil
Speaker 1: Alexander Walker, Anthony Edwards, or Jaden McDaniels, from the early
Speaker 1: part of the game, I thought the two things physically
Speaker 1: that got Denver's offense going was better screening and better
Speaker 1: setting up your man for screens. So let's start on
Speaker 1: the setting up your man for screens thing. So when
Speaker 1: you're on the ball, it's about a ball handling move,
Speaker 1: some sort of dribble combination to get your defender onto
Speaker 1: one side of you. When you get that defender onto
Speaker 1: one side of you, it's much easier for the screener
Speaker 1: to find an angle for him to actually set a
Speaker 1: good pick. So for instance, if I want to get
Speaker 1: on a screen going this way, if he's up in
Speaker 1: my business, he can take that big step over the top.
Speaker 1: I've shown this on film, and our film breakdown is
Speaker 1: a bunch. If I'm chasing a guy over screen this way,
Speaker 1: I didn't get my left foot over the top of
Speaker 1: the screener's left foot so that I can get the
Speaker 1: leverage to get over the top and meet you on
Speaker 1: the other side. But if you make a dribble move
Speaker 1: on me and I end up on this side of you,
Speaker 1: if you get me way off onto the ball handler's
Speaker 1: left hand side, then now I'm just in a trail
Speaker 1: position the whole way through right and so on the ball.
Speaker 1: Setting up your man for screens is about dribble combinations
Speaker 1: to get the defender on the side away from the
Speaker 1: screen right. Then when you're off the ball, it's about
Speaker 1: getting contact. I thought Jamal did a really good job
Speaker 1: of this from the opening tip of the game. When
Speaker 1: he was off the ball, he'd sit down with his
Speaker 1: hands on his knees and kind of relax and bite
Speaker 1: his energy. And then what he would do is when
Speaker 1: it was time to cut to the screen, he'd get
Speaker 1: connected to the body right, he'd get into the defender's
Speaker 1: body and then he would just take off and give
Speaker 1: a little shove. Just take off, little shove, by the way,
Speaker 1: totally legal. It's something you train kids to do from
Speaker 1: the younger, right. That's just basic fundamental basketball. And again,
Speaker 1: that's what's so frustrating about what happened in Game two.
Speaker 1: Jamal got so worked up that he lost sight of
Speaker 1: some of the fundamental things he could do to fight
Speaker 1: through the ball pressure and to fight through some of
Speaker 1: the physicality he was dealing with. We even talked about
Speaker 1: just passing out of double teams, which he was doing
Speaker 1: a poor job of in game two. Right, But in
Speaker 1: this game, patience, hands on knees, waiting for the time
Speaker 1: to cut, get connected, little push off, take off by
Speaker 1: virtue of doing that everything I just described, whether it's
Speaker 1: the ball handling piece or the off ball piece, it's
Speaker 1: about getting that initial separation right. Once the initial separation exists,
Speaker 1: there's a gap for Jokic to set in instead a
Speaker 1: good screen. Second piece is Jokic setting a good screen.
Speaker 1: And again, this is where it's you being the physical
Speaker 1: aggressor you being the guy that's kicking their ass rather
Speaker 1: than the other way around. As Jokic sets that good screen.
Speaker 1: After Jamal Murray gets his man set up for the screen,
Speaker 1: now there's a lot of separation as a Jamal comes
Speaker 1: downhill right from there. We talk about the bracket all
Speaker 1: the time in pick and roll coverage. Right, the bracket
Speaker 1: is the drop coverage. Big is the bottom end of
Speaker 1: the bracket, and the top end of the bracket is
Speaker 1: the back pressure. It's the guy that's chasing over the
Speaker 1: top of the screen and trying to funnel when you
Speaker 1: have real separation from the on ball defender. That is
Speaker 1: what allows Jamal Murray to go in different angles after
Speaker 1: he comes off the screen and find a little soft
Speaker 1: spot in the drop coverage for him to find his
Speaker 1: pull up jumper. If Jaden McDaniels or whoever it is
Speaker 1: that's on the ball is attached to Jamal over the screen,
Speaker 1: then he can funnel. That's where the bracket can force
Speaker 1: Jamal to drive into traffic. When he forces Jamal to
Speaker 1: drive into traffic, his options are limited. He can't get
Speaker 1: to the pull up because there's back pressure. Now he's
Speaker 1: driving into the rim and he's gonna have a bunch
Speaker 1: of issues there. Right, So everything comes down to getting
Speaker 1: good separation from the on ball defender through setting your
Speaker 1: man up for screens and setting a good screen. Once
Speaker 1: that happens, Jamal has the freedom to work in that
Speaker 1: mid range. That is what brings extra defenders over. That's
Speaker 1: what actually for is the drop coverage big to come out,
Speaker 1: because if this bracket can stay down here because this
Speaker 1: guy's chasing him in, then then Rudy Gobert or Carltown's
Speaker 1: whoever it is that's there, can easily guard both. But
Speaker 1: as soon as he actually has to come out a
Speaker 1: little bit, that is where you start running into issues
Speaker 1: where the pocket pass gets open. And that's where we
Speaker 1: see Jokic catching on the roll. And then when catches
Speaker 1: on the role, then Rudy Gobert has to step up.
Speaker 1: When Ridy Gobert steps up, that's where the lob passed
Speaker 1: to Aaron Gordon is open. But none of it works
Speaker 1: if you can't get separation from the on ball guy.
Speaker 1: It is the initial cog in what makes Denver's offense work.
Speaker 1: If I had to simplify it down to one thing,
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray just got free so much easier tonight through
Speaker 1: setting his man up for screens and through setting good screens.
Speaker 1: From there he got his confidence. Then the tough shots
Speaker 1: start going again. Now it's like, now it's the superstar
Speaker 1: ability that Jamal Murray has to hit tough contested shots
Speaker 1: when things are defended way well, that started to come
Speaker 1: to the surface. But early on it was like easy
Speaker 1: little driving layup, like easier shots in that in that
Speaker 1: mid range and at the rim he got a wide
Speaker 1: open catch and shoot three on the right wing. That
Speaker 1: came more off of the virtue of their defense, which
Speaker 1: we'll get to in a minute. But again, like I thought,
Speaker 1: that was the main piece of it. From there, Denver's
Speaker 1: offense functioned again. Once Denver's offense started functioning again, functioning again,
Speaker 1: all of the role players started playing better. You got
Speaker 1: what's his forty six points on twenty three shots out
Speaker 1: of KCP, Michael Porter Junior and Aaron Gordon just way
Speaker 1: better production than what you had been getting. Right, And honestly,
Speaker 1: I thought, Nicole Jokicic, you know, I was expecting tonight
Speaker 1: to go differently.
Speaker 2: I thought Minnesota would bring a better punch.
Speaker 1: I thought that this game would be closer, and I
Speaker 1: thought that Jokis would really have to assert himself as
Speaker 1: a score and to his credit, one of the things
Speaker 1: he did in this game he identified early Jamal's got
Speaker 1: it going, MPJ, Aaron Gordon and my and CACP.
Speaker 2: All look more comfortable.
Speaker 1: I don't need to force the action any functioned more
Speaker 1: as just a cog in the offense and put up
Speaker 1: a classic Yokic stat line twenty four points, fourteen rebounds,
Speaker 1: nine a sis and then plus thirty and thirty eight minutes.
Speaker 1: But by far, I would argue as even though we
Speaker 1: broke down all that offensive piece of it, by far.
Speaker 1: Going into the series, the biggest key I said for
Speaker 1: Denver was this is different than the Lakers series in
Speaker 1: the sense that the Lakers, you're just so much better
Speaker 1: than them offensively that you can just out execute them
Speaker 1: in any sort of late game situation. This series Minnesota
Speaker 1: for the regular season, and in terms of their personnel,
Speaker 1: they're not as good offensively. They've been amazing offensively in
Speaker 1: this postseason run through the first six games. I want
Speaker 1: to say they're the best offense in the in the NBA.
Speaker 1: And Anthony Edwards was playing like a bona fide top
Speaker 1: tier superstar and Nikhil Alexander Walker's been on fire. Carl
Speaker 1: Towns has been amazing. They've been doing all this good
Speaker 1: stuff right and so in a lot of ways. In
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, like like we forget the fact
Speaker 1: that Minnesota has had a tendency to be compromisable offensively,
Speaker 1: teams have been able to get them out of rhythm
Speaker 1: and cause some problems.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, what I said before the series is you have
Speaker 1: to do more damage to Minnesota's offense than they do
Speaker 1: to yours. And that was the most impressive part of
Speaker 1: this Denver performance. They brought the physical ball pressure Nikole Jokic,
Speaker 1: who fairly has been lambasted for being a bad defender
Speaker 1: in this postseason. And guess what, He's been a bad
Speaker 1: defender in this postseason for the first six games. By far,
Speaker 1: his best defensive game of the playoffs tonight, three steals,
Speaker 1: three blocks was way two things. In particular, way better
Speaker 1: when he would come up up to the level of
Speaker 1: the screen at containing Ant and not letting Ant get downhill.
Speaker 1: And then secondly when he was in his deeper dropper
Speaker 1: when he was helping active hands getting deflections and swipes.
Speaker 1: There's that play where Ant got downhill right into the
Speaker 1: short range and tried to rise up, but he exposed
Speaker 1: the ball in the shooting pocket and Jokic swiped down
Speaker 1: at it. As a team, I thought Denver to much
Speaker 1: much better. Like it was weird out, Like in Game two,
Speaker 1: you'd see Denver kind of over penetrate and like lose
Speaker 1: control of the basketball, and then like four dudes would
Speaker 1: be swiping down at it and somehow Minnesota would come
Speaker 1: away with it. The same thing was happening for Denver tonight.
Speaker 1: It'd be Minnesota that'd be over penetrating a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then Jokis would knock the ball loose, and then
Speaker 1: like four dudes would get on the ground and try
Speaker 1: to go after the ball, and somehow someone with Denver
Speaker 1: would come out from it and go the other way.
Speaker 1: And that really is the key. They dominated the physical
Speaker 1: battle tonight. They won the rebounds forty to thirty two.
Speaker 1: They won offensive rebounds eight to five. They won turnovers
Speaker 1: sixteen to eleven. They had seventeen points off of minnesota
Speaker 1: sixteen turnovers. They won points in the paint thirty eight
Speaker 1: to thirty four. Completely flipped the script. And again, like
Speaker 1: that to me is the big psychological benefit from this game.
Speaker 1: In addition to getting a win in the win column
Speaker 1: that you desperately need because you need three more in
Speaker 1: the next four games. In addition to that, you proved
Speaker 1: to yourself that you are capable of hanging physically with
Speaker 1: Minnesota in a way that you didn't in the first
Speaker 1: two games on the Minnesota front, and like this, this
Speaker 1: to me is a credit to Denver's defense. But they
Speaker 1: played Minnesota into a lot of their bad tendencies. What
Speaker 1: was the issue with Kat and aunt offensively throughout the
Speaker 1: regular season, Like missing easy reads, settling for jump shots,
Speaker 1: not using your physical tools to get close to the basket.
Speaker 2: Early in this game.
Speaker 1: Anthony Erwards just coming off of ball screens with seventeen
Speaker 1: on the shot clock and pulling up from three over
Speaker 1: a contest like it looked a lot more like regular
Speaker 1: season Anthony Edwards. Now, he's been amazing for six games,
Speaker 1: So I'm not about to like be like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the real ant. I'm just saying like he As
Speaker 1: a team, they kind of functioned a lot more like
Speaker 1: the regular season version of themselves. Inconsistent defensive energy and effort.
Speaker 1: Like Chris Finch said after Game two, that was the
Speaker 1: best defensive effort he had seen from that group. I
Speaker 1: would venture to guess he's gonna say the exact opposite
Speaker 1: tonight in his presser. It just was inconsistent from the jump,
Speaker 1: not as good screen navigation, not as scrappy, not as physical.
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The whistle kind of turned a little bit against Minnesota,
Speaker 1: And you know, I agree, it's infuriating that it's not
Speaker 1: more consistent, Like I wish they just kind of pick
Speaker 1: a level of physicality and stick with it. But for
Speaker 1: the record, that's kind of a thing at every level
Speaker 1: of basketball, at every level of basketball. You know, you
Speaker 1: go into the game, it's like, we don't know how
Speaker 1: this game is going to be reffed. And sometimes you
Speaker 1: identify early like oh, they're letting everything go. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: identify early like, oh, this is much more tiki tack,
Speaker 1: right like Game one OKC Dallas, super ticky tack. Game
Speaker 1: two OKC Dallas way more physical, a lot more stuff
Speaker 1: gets let go, right Like, it's unfortunate that it's inconsistent,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of part of the game, right. And
Speaker 1: it was actually interesting because I didn't think Minnesota handled
Speaker 1: it very well. They were complaining at the refs, they
Speaker 1: were getting all worked up and again, that kind of
Speaker 1: goes more to that psychological flip that I was talking
Speaker 1: about earlier, but the poor shot selection and the foul
Speaker 1: trouble too. Like Jade McDaniels, I think he's the best
Speaker 1: perimeter defender in the league. You pick up three foulsand
Speaker 1: in the first half, early second half. You have this
Speaker 1: beautiful possession on Jamal Murray where you block him and
Speaker 1: then after you block him, you foul him for no damnary.
Speaker 1: After you cleanly defend him and block him, you just
Speaker 1: hack him for no reason at the end of the possession.
Speaker 1: That is a regular season issue that Minnesota had. Now,
Speaker 1: as the game was kind of winding down, he was
Speaker 1: on the sideline.
Speaker 2: He was like, hey, guys, this is just a this
Speaker 2: is a series.
Speaker 1: This is just one game. There's a lot of basketball left.
Speaker 1: They gotta be these four times out of five. He's right,
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be easy there. You can if
Speaker 1: they continue to come out and play like regular season Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Denver's just gonna win three more games in a row
Speaker 1: and this series is gonna be over. Looking forward to
Speaker 1: Game four, I expect it to be much closer. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get a much more desperate Minnesota effort.
Speaker 1: I think this game, the winner of this game is
Speaker 1: gonna win the series. Just think about it. Minnesota wins
Speaker 1: Game four, They're up three to one. Now Denver has
Speaker 1: to beat you three times in a row, including a
Speaker 1: game in Minnesota. That's not gonna be very easy. Minnesota's
Speaker 1: already demonstrated they can win in Denver, right, Denver wins
Speaker 1: to two, They've just won two straight on your home floor.
Speaker 1: They're going home for Game five, the game five, and
Speaker 1: Denver the arena is just gonna be on fire. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be a really hard game to win. Now they're
Speaker 1: coming back to Minnesota up three to two, and they
Speaker 1: know they can beat you there because they just beat
Speaker 1: you twice. Right, So, like I think the winner of
Speaker 1: Game four is going to win the series. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a super close game. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be more or less functioning as a game that
Speaker 1: both teams view as a must win. I expect a
Speaker 1: much better defensive effort from Minnesota from the jump. I
Speaker 1: expect Chris Finch to likely go back to Jaden McDaniels
Speaker 1: on Jamal Murray from the start of the game. I
Speaker 1: expect a whistle that is a little bit less tight
Speaker 1: and a little bit more physicality allowed. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: a hell of a game Sunday evening, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: I think myself and Colin Cowherd are going after that game.
Speaker 1: But I'll keep you guys posted on my Twitter feed.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Nicks Pacers before we
Speaker 1: get out of here for the night, and let's start
Speaker 1: at the end first, because every Knicks game is completely insane.
Speaker 1: Was the eighth time in nine postseason games that the
Speaker 1: Knick sev ended up in a clutch situation at the
Speaker 1: end of a game. They were six to one in
Speaker 1: their first seven. Remember, clutch means within five points with
Speaker 1: less than five minutes left. I want to start with
Speaker 1: the late game sequence and we'll work into some of
Speaker 1: the bigger picture concepts from there. So it's one O two,
Speaker 1: one oh two, and Tyris Alliburn's running on a ball
Speaker 1: screen on the left side of the floor hard and
Speaker 1: signs in a high drop. Devincenzo's on the ball and
Speaker 1: Halliburton just picks up his dribble for no damn reason,
Speaker 1: and Siakam has a hard time disengaging from the screen
Speaker 1: from Devincenzo, so he throws like a pass over the top,
Speaker 1: ends up at.
Speaker 2: A turnover and they're running out the other way.
Speaker 1: Josh Hart's booking it towards the rim, and on that
Speaker 1: play it kind of reminded me of the famous block
Speaker 1: tyres Alliburtn swipes down on Josh Hart, makes him change
Speaker 1: his release a little bit, which buys the time for
Speaker 1: Miles Turner to get it back in. He swipes it
Speaker 1: off the glass. They come running out the other way.
Speaker 1: On the other the floor. In transition, Andrew Imhard gets
Speaker 1: a close out opportunity on the right wing. He beats
Speaker 1: brunts into the left and gets all the way to
Speaker 1: the rim. Kind of sneaky little gamesman ship from Yakham.
Speaker 1: When Hartenstein goes to help, Siakam kind of holds on
Speaker 1: to him and as a result, there's no help at
Speaker 1: the rim. And Andrew Nemar gets a layup, so it's
Speaker 1: one O four to one O two. They go out
Speaker 1: the other way, and Brunson's working against Nie Smith way
Speaker 1: out at half court, and Haliburton throws a random double
Speaker 1: team at him, and in the double team, Brunson just
Speaker 1: drives to go around him and Haliburton just trips him.
Speaker 2: It was a stupid, bad foul. He goes to the line.
Speaker 1: He only goes one for two though, which by the way,
Speaker 1: miss free throws continue to be a problem for the Knicks.
Speaker 1: So at this point it's one o four to one
Speaker 1: oh three Indiana. And this was a kind of a
Speaker 1: crazy sequence. And this sequence ended up in a stop
Speaker 1: for New York. But I thought it kind of in
Speaker 1: a weird way set the stage for what was the
Speaker 1: game winner later on. So it starts with Tyres Haliburton
Speaker 1: rejecting a screen, quickly getting the defense in rotation, kick
Speaker 1: out past the Miles Turner in the corner.
Speaker 2: Miles Turner kicks.
Speaker 1: It up the wing wide open, like check the wind,
Speaker 1: you know, to sit there and take your swing as
Speaker 1: time on a catch and shoot three for Andrew Nemhart
Speaker 1: on the right wing, and he misses it.
Speaker 2: But on that play Miles Turner comes in.
Speaker 1: He gets a rebound, and by the way, he had
Speaker 1: a couple of big offensive rebounds at the end of
Speaker 1: this game. Then Haliburton just beats brunting off the dribble
Speaker 1: on the left side of the floor, gets all the
Speaker 1: way to the basket and smokes a layup. Turner comes
Speaker 1: in again and taps it out, so it ends up
Speaker 1: back in Halliburton's hands. He runs another ball screen, gets
Speaker 1: hard and signed up to the level. Perfect pocket pass,
Speaker 1: bang bang in rotation. Another wide open catch and shoot
Speaker 1: three for Andrew Nemhart in the right corner, and he
Speaker 1: misses it. Dante Divencenzo finally gets an offensive rebound. Two
Speaker 1: reasons why I wanted to highlight that play. First, of
Speaker 1: all those misses for Nemhart to two wide up a
Speaker 1: catch and shoot misses, they allow him to kind of
Speaker 1: build rhythm and to kind of think of it as
Speaker 1: like dialing in his release. Oh, I left that one short.
Speaker 1: He left the corner three short at the right corner
Speaker 1: is dead on straight, but he left it short right.
Speaker 1: Also Tyres Halliburton, who just continued at the end of
Speaker 1: this game to generate quality shot after quality shot. Tygers
Speaker 1: Haliburton was amazing. We're gonna get to him in a
Speaker 1: bigger picture in a minute. So but anyway, New York
Speaker 1: gets the stops one of four, one O three. They're
Speaker 1: running out the other way and there on the other end,
Speaker 1: Brunson gets aron Empart on a cross match, and remember
Speaker 1: this was this was the matchup where adren Empart was
Speaker 1: getting cooked all series and that was why Carlisle finally
Speaker 1: switched over to Nie Smith on Brunson and he Brunson
Speaker 1: tried to back him down, he's bullying him. Nemmar took
Speaker 1: the contact, held his ground, forced Brunston to spin into
Speaker 1: like a scoop shot with his offhand, which is obviously
Speaker 1: a lower percentagehot and he missed it. So shout out
Speaker 1: to adren Emhard. He's been getting barbecued by Brunston all series.
Speaker 1: Got a huge stop on that play. Haliburton makes a
Speaker 1: beautiful kick ahead pass because Siakam ends up up the
Speaker 1: floor and beats everybody there. And again this is another
Speaker 1: great thing about Halliburton. He just never misses the easy
Speaker 1: reads that are available.
Speaker 2: In these games.
Speaker 1: Got a simple kick ahead pass right well, Seeaca beats
Speaker 1: everyone down to the floor and we get the first
Speaker 1: of the two giant Nick's mistakes at the end of
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: Actually misses the layup in traffic.
Speaker 1: And Dante DiVincenzo, who was unbelievable all night, just was
Speaker 1: an absolute monster. It was dead on from three was
Speaker 1: doing some off the dribble creation, great in transition, great
Speaker 1: in defense, just a great Dante de Vincenzo knight.
Speaker 2: But he makes a big mistake.
Speaker 1: Uh uh Siakam misses the layup and and uh brunt
Speaker 1: or de Vincenzo comes in and swats at it and
Speaker 1: gets called for goaltending. It had like no chance of
Speaker 1: going in, So big mistake. Now it's one oh six
Speaker 1: to one oh three. But to Jalen Brunston's credit, who
Speaker 1: has had Aaron Nesmith in his face all night long,
Speaker 1: just sticks a step back three in his face. Now
Speaker 1: it's one oh six to one oh six. And again
Speaker 1: Niemith did a great job on him all night. Just
Speaker 1: a tough shot that Brunson made. So we go down
Speaker 1: the other end. It's one o six, one oh six.
Speaker 1: Haliburton gets a quick ball screen in transition, like a
Speaker 1: little semi transition ball screen, gets a great look at
Speaker 1: it right from that right wing spot, and just misses
Speaker 1: the three. And I actually liked the shot too, because
Speaker 1: even though it was early in the clock, there was
Speaker 1: like thirty one thirty two seconds left in the game clock,
Speaker 1: so it was like a two for one in a
Speaker 1: tie game. So like, even if you miss that and
Speaker 1: you give up the rebound, the Knicks are gonna go
Speaker 1: down and if you get another stop, then you'll get
Speaker 1: the final shot of the game.
Speaker 2: But Aaron E.
Speaker 1: Smith comes in, comes flying in and gets a tap
Speaker 1: out rebound. And again this credit to the Pacers, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about why because the Knicks had to
Speaker 1: go to a four guard lineup late. But the Pacers
Speaker 1: got a bunch of key offensive rebounds late, so credit
Speaker 1: to them. But in the cross match, off of the
Speaker 1: chaos of the offensive rebound, Hartenstein ends up on Halliburn.
Speaker 2: Halliburn's working him off the.
Speaker 1: Dribble and the Knicks throw a random double team from
Speaker 1: a Duce McBride with about four seconds left in the
Speaker 1: shot clock. Haliburton basically throws a grenade to Nemhard because
Speaker 1: he has no choice. He's not going to attack the double.
Speaker 1: Nemhard has brunts and on him with four seconds on
Speaker 1: the shot clock, and he just goes into that pound
Speaker 1: table between the legs and to his step back. And
Speaker 1: again he had dialed on that, he dialed in that release.
Speaker 1: He just had two good looks and he's sure as
Speaker 1: hell wasn't gonna leave this one short. Got a great lift,
Speaker 1: I've got a great release and drills like a twenty
Speaker 1: five foot step back three. And it was crazy because
Speaker 1: it's the toughest one of the three. It was deeper,
Speaker 1: it was more contested, it was off. The dribble didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Huge shot from Andrew Nemhard. Now it's one o nine
Speaker 1: to one oh six. Then we get to the second
Speaker 1: big Knick's mistake. Late Jalen Brunson gets hacked by Andrew
Speaker 1: Nemhard and in the process he just throws up a
Speaker 1: bad shot. And here's the thing. You can't count on
Speaker 1: the refs in that situation. Yes, occasionally a ref will
Speaker 1: get whistle happy at the end of a game, and
Speaker 1: it always is a big deal and we all hate it, right,
Speaker 1: but most refs want the players to decide and they'll
Speaker 1: sit back. If anything, I actually thought the ref, because
Speaker 1: there was one ref in the right corner, had a
Speaker 1: good angle on it. I think he didn't think Brunson
Speaker 1: was gonna shoot. I think he saw Brunson holding the ball.
Speaker 1: I think he saw nem Hard hack him, and I
Speaker 1: think he thought Brunson's gonna pass it here. Anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna worry about blowing the whistle, and then Brunson
Speaker 1: decided on a delay to throw up a shot, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, even if they called the foul, it
Speaker 1: would have been on the ground right, And so Brunson
Speaker 1: kind of tries to grift and throws up a really
Speaker 1: bad shot. There were fourteen seconds left on the shot clock.
Speaker 1: Now the one little bit of leeway I'd give to
Speaker 1: Brunston there, and I don't think it's enough to justify it.
Speaker 1: But in those kind of late game situations down three,
Speaker 1: you are sometimes cognizant of the fact that they might
Speaker 1: intentionally foul, and sometimes guys will throw up bad three
Speaker 1: point shots to try to turn an intentional foul into
Speaker 1: three points. But I thought Brunson rushed that because usually
Speaker 1: that's under It's like outside of three seconds, inside of
Speaker 1: ten seconds is usually where you see teams look to
Speaker 1: intentionally foul, because inside of three second, outside of three secs,
Speaker 1: like with less than three seconds left, you're usually scared
Speaker 1: about the guy throwing up a shot right. And then
Speaker 1: outside of three seconds left, it's almost like too early
Speaker 1: to get into a free throw contest, and one misfree
Speaker 1: throw and you're in some trouble right, So like I
Speaker 1: didn't like that specific shot, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: The Pacers get the rebound, they close it out from there,
Speaker 1: and the Pacers cut the series to two to one.
Speaker 1: A couple of notes from the game, switching n Smith
Speaker 1: onto Brunson. Brunston at twenty six point on twenty six shots,
Speaker 1: six assists in five turnovers. It was his worst game
Speaker 1: of the playoffs since Game two against Philly, and they
Speaker 1: were just like Nie Smith was just in his jersey
Speaker 1: from the jump, and the big thing is here. He's bigger,
Speaker 1: he's stronger, he's a better athlete, he's better defender than
Speaker 1: Andrew Emhart. I called for Nie Smith on Brunson at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the series, and then I said it
Speaker 1: needed to happen after game one because it was abundantly
Speaker 1: clear that Jalen was really comfortable operating against Andren Emhart. Specifically,
Speaker 1: he felt comfortable shooting over the top of him.
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Is Aaron Nee Smith some sort of magical Jalen Brunson stopper. No,
Speaker 1: but he's your best chance.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I always talk about it like a range of outcomes
Speaker 1: on any given night. Sometimes a guy's super dialed in.
Speaker 1: He can go for forty something. Right, Sometimes a guy
Speaker 1: is a rough shooting night and he goes for twenty
Speaker 1: six points on twenty six shots, and then there's everything
Speaker 1: in between, right, And really, when you when you play
Speaker 1: better defense, you just make it more likely that player
Speaker 1: will end up in the lower end of the outcome.
Speaker 1: When you play worst defense, you make it more likely
Speaker 1: that they'll end up in the high end of that outcome.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And so to me, it's not about a magic fix
Speaker 1: for Brunson, it's just he's your best perimeter defender. So
Speaker 1: why would you put a guy like Nemhard on who's
Speaker 1: a good perimeter defender. But Brunson's been one of the
Speaker 1: top five players in the league in this postseason, is
Speaker 1: barbecuing everybody, and he's clearly having great nights, and he's
Speaker 1: clearly very comfortable against Andrew Nemhart. So I like to
Speaker 1: move to Neie Smith simply because give you the best
Speaker 1: chance of playing Brunson into a rough shooting night, and
Speaker 1: he had a rough shooting night. Honestly, it was a
Speaker 1: testament to Jaylen Brunston that he was still able to
Speaker 1: get going the way he did in that second half.
Speaker 1: Tyers Halibert sixty nine points in the last two games
Speaker 1: after I begged him to start scoring after Game one,
Speaker 1: finally starting to look more explosive. Too early in the game,
Speaker 1: there was a play two plays in particular in the
Speaker 1: first half that kind of stood out to me. Get
Speaker 1: hard and signed on a switch on the right wing,
Speaker 1: late shot clock situation, and he beat him off the dribble,
Speaker 1: low gather through a dig down and then made like
Speaker 1: a tough scoop shot. Those were the beating the bigs
Speaker 1: off the switches was a big thing that he was
Speaker 1: doing in the early part of the season before his
Speaker 1: hamstring injury, so I thought that was a good sign.
Speaker 2: And then that transition play.
Speaker 1: Where he just elevated and hit the finger roll over
Speaker 1: like when he was getting sandwiched by like two athletes
Speaker 1: at the rim like that was one of those plays
Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, he started to get some of
Speaker 1: his explosion back. And then late in the game, I
Speaker 1: thought he consistently generated quality shots just getting into ball screens,
Speaker 1: getting downhill, getting into the lane, drawing in help defenders,
Speaker 1: making the kickout passes. He was the guy who drew
Speaker 1: the double team on the late possession that led to
Speaker 1: the game winner. This is the tyress Alliburton that had
Speaker 1: me so excited before the season. He has the potential
Speaker 1: to be a bigger and more athletic Steve Natch. That's
Speaker 1: his upside and I thought I like and he just
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to kind of recapture that since the
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. But these last two games have been the
Speaker 1: first time that he's really started to look more like
Speaker 1: the Tyres Alliburton from the start of the season. That
Speaker 1: is super exciting that Tyres Alliburton has the potential to
Speaker 1: be a top five player in this league. But the guy,
Speaker 1: the guy between that, the guy after the injury, he
Speaker 1: just wasn't explosive enough and not as consistent and efficient
Speaker 1: enough as a score to do so. So really encouraging
Speaker 1: to see him to get some of that back. Miles
Speaker 1: Turner twenty one points and ten rebounds, several huge rebounds,
Speaker 1: several huge offensive rebounds late in the game. Huge win
Speaker 1: for Indiana, But you know how the Knicks are. Game
Speaker 1: four is gonna be just as tough, right And I
Speaker 1: just continue to be completely amazed by the Knicks. They
Speaker 1: keep losing bodies, no Julius Randall, Noboy and Macdonovich, no
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson, now nog And and Obi as well. Yet they
Speaker 1: just keep finding guys that come in and contribute precious
Speaker 1: to Chewa has been able to slot into that og
Speaker 1: Anobe spot. Alec Burks came in in the first half
Speaker 1: and was hitting jumpers and kind of recreating some of
Speaker 1: that athleticism and shooting pop that og And and Obi had
Speaker 1: at Duce McBride has ever since, really ever since the
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Quickly trade, has stepped in and taken on more
Speaker 1: responsibility and being great.
Speaker 2: Guys just keep coming.
Speaker 1: In and they keep continuing with the basketball character that
Speaker 1: comes from their coach down and it just makes them
Speaker 1: an incredibly likable team. There were three or four points
Speaker 1: in the game tonight where I thought the Knicks might
Speaker 1: just punt, and instead they won on a run, and
Speaker 1: they came very close to winning that game. Dante de
Speaker 1: Vincenzo doesn't commit a goaltend, you're right there and you
Speaker 1: have a very good chance to win that game. And
Speaker 1: even with that goaltend, it took an andream heard bailout
Speaker 1: step back three in the final minute, right, So, like
Speaker 1: I can see why Knicks fans love this team. They
Speaker 1: just have truly remarkable basketball character. One basketball note though,
Speaker 1: because of the ogn Andobe injury, they did have to
Speaker 1: go to four guards late and went to duce McBride,
Speaker 1: Josh Hart, Dantete de Vincenzo, and Jalen Bronson. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the right call because I think duce McBride
Speaker 1: was a little bit better and more reliable offensively than
Speaker 1: Alec Burks was. But they did struggle to clean up
Speaker 1: the offensive glass late, and that is the reality of
Speaker 1: losing og Anobi. And as we heard from Adrian Morjanowski,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be out for Game four and he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be out for Game five as well. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. And this is gonna be a challenge
Speaker 1: for the Knicks because their best line line up right
Speaker 1: now really might be that four guard lineup in a
Speaker 1: center and that's just gonna put you into some physical
Speaker 1: predicaments and that showed up in that late game situation
Speaker 1: against Antianda tonight. But again, even despite that, this close
Speaker 1: all right, guys, that is all I have for tonight
Speaker 1: is always I sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting me
Speaker 1: and supporting the show. The plan as of right now
Speaker 1: is we're just going live after the morning game tomorrow,
Speaker 1: which I believe is Thunder. That's the Thunder MAVs game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're going live after the ABC game on Thunder MAVs.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit Boston Cleveland on Sunday morning. But I
Speaker 1: will see you guys live on YouTube tomorrow after the final.
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