1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. Uh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Audition as the Bengals look for their third road win 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: in as many weeks as they head to New Jersey 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: to take on the one in five New York Jets. 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Coming up, I'll talk to Boom Assiahsin about Joe Burrow, 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, and a Cincinnati team it's currently the number 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: one playoff seed in the AF Seed. One on one 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: player interview is with Eli Apple as he returns to 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: the place where his NFL career began, MetLife Stadium in 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: the meadow Lands. Dave Lappham joins me to discuss the 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: latest Bengals news and share some keys to beating New York. 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: And finally, it's our no the Faux segment as we 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: discussed the struggling Jets with a guy who has covered 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: the team for more than thirty years, Rich Samine from ESPN. 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Goals, the 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: free to play next Level Fantasy Football game downloaded now 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: from the App Store and Google Play. 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He's one of two 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 1: quarterbacks so far to take the Bengals to the Super Bowl. 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has tied the Bengals record for most touchdown 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: passes to the first seven games of a season with seventeen, 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: and he now shares it with Boomer Ossias and who 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: did that back in nineteen eighty eight when he was 37 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: MVP and the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. Boomer. 38 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: The Bengals are tied for first in the AFC North 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: after stopping on Baltimore last week. Have they arrived in 40 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: your opinion, Well, I mean, certainly they have arrived in 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: and I just want to say congratulations to Joe Burrow 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and thank him for making me relevant in this discussion 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: when it really should be all about them and what 44 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: they've accomplished us far. But you know, they're the number 45 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: one seed in the AFC right now as well, so 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: that is quite an accomplishment. But I think every guy 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: on that team, and every coach and everybody that's associated 48 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: with the team will tell you that it's nice to 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: be where they are. They probably expected to be here. 50 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: I think they're there a little bit earlier than I 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: thought they were going to be, But certainly, you know, 52 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: there's so much more to accomplish, and this week, you know, 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: and what would be considered a complete let down opportunity 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: here for them. You know, really good teams don't lose 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: the teams that they shouldn't. And they play the Jets 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: this week, and the Jets are an awful football team, 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: a team that is where the Bengals worth three years 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: ago under the first year of Zach Taylor. So they 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: got to come in and they got to stomp the 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Jets and come away with a big victory, and you know, 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: then they kind of show you that they're mature and 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: that they're understanding about their expectations truly should be, and 63 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: that is to win every single time that they step 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: out on the field. Bloom, when you traveled to Cincinnati 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: and spent time with Joe Burrow at the beginning of 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: training camp, did you expect him to play this well, 67 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: this fast coming back from knee surgery. Well, I wasn't sure, 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, And I did ask him how he felt 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: with the knee, and I remember meeting him in August 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and he was itching to get back out on the 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: field and to start playing football again. You know. He 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: spent the entire offseason rehabbing and then spent even more 73 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: time with his private quarterback coach, Jordan Palmer, working on 74 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: deep ball throwing and the strength of his arm. So 75 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: that actually told me then and there that how much 76 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: he really cared about the position. What I didn't know 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: is just the type of personality that he has. He has. 78 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: He's a very confident guy, let's put it that way. 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: He may not show it outwardly outside of the Cincinnati 80 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Bengals locker room and their practice facility. But internally and 81 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: especially on the NFL films clips that I have heard 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: of him this year, you know that he's confident and 83 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: you can feel it that the rest of the team 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: is confident in him. So it's I guess my answer 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: to you, then, Dan would be no, I'm not surprised 86 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: because what I didn't know about him is that personality 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: trait that he has, and I think the more success 88 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: that the Bengals have, the more the outside world will 89 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: understand who he is as a personality. He is a 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: very big personality, and I think most of the guys 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: on that team, if not all of them, are feeding 92 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: off of that. You referred to him on TV recently 93 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: as the perfect person for this franchise. Why his personality? 94 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: You have to have a I believe, a dynamic personality 95 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: to lead them to the next level. You know, Andy 96 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: Dalton had a really great career there, so did Carson Palmer. 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: I would say that they were more aligned personality wise. 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: Maybe they were, you know privately, they were very common 99 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: in their abilities, but they weren't outwardly impactful. I think 100 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: on the entire team and Carson's time there ended much 101 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: like my time there the first time, and that was 102 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: on a sour note. Andy kind of just got pushed 103 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: aside because they got to a certain point with he 104 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: and Marvin and it was really more about Marvin than 105 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: it really was about Andy. This team is about Joe Burrow. 106 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: This is his team. He probably has the absolute perfect 107 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: coach in Zach Taylor. And by the way, I had 108 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: to remind people this past Sunday that Zach Taylor is 109 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: actually the head coach at the Bengals, because I'm not 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: sure that anybody outside of Cincinnati knows that. So, you know, 111 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: this could be a match made in heaven, much like 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: it was for me and Sam Weish. And the similarities 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: between the eighty eight team and this particular team, you know, 114 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: are significant, but more the eighty five team because that's 115 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 1: when we drafted Eddie Brown, and Eddie Brown made our 116 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: offense complete. He was the dynamic wide receiver that we 117 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: need at the game changer, and I think that's exactly 118 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: what Jamar Chase has brought to the Bengal offense. Well, 119 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: you interviewed Jamar last week for the NFL Today, and 120 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting. You brought up the 121 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: sixth sense that he seems to have with Joe Burrow 122 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: going back to their days at LSU. And before you 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: would even finished the question, this ear to ear grin 124 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: appears on Jamar's face. Do you see that sixth sense 125 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: when you watch those two guys? I do. There's no 126 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: question about that. There's a comfort zone that he has 127 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: that other wide receivers in the league do not have 128 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: at this young age, and that is that he has 129 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: his quarterback that he trusts. And there's no question that 130 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: there is a very significant bond between the two men. 131 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I think I felt that when I 132 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: talked to Joe Burrow back in August for NFL Network, 133 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: and I certainly felt that when I spoke to Jamar 134 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Chase's past week. So you can see that there's a trust, 135 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: that there's a respect for one another. There's probably a 136 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: genuine love for each other too, to be honest with you. 137 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: They have participated in many big games together. There's going 138 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: to be a lot of other big games that they're 139 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: going to continue to play in together, and that bond 140 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: is only going to get stronger. And you can tell 141 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: that that bond right there is ignited. Not only the offense, 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: but the whole city, like, this is what the Bengal 143 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: fans you know, long for all these years. And when 144 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: I think about, you know, Carson Palmer and Chado Chosinko 145 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: or Chad Johnson whatever he's calling himself these days. And 146 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: on top of that, Andy Dalton with aj Green, this 147 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: is this is this dynamic partnership that is going to 148 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: basically fuel the energy for the entire team and guys 149 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: like Joe Mixon and Higgins and c j Usama, all 150 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: these guys are going to be feeding off of that. 151 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: So it was the right draft choice. And I also 152 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: found out something else that wasn't in that interview. Dan, 153 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: and I'm I don't know if you know this, but 154 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Jamar told me that Joe Burrow called him the night 155 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: before the draft and said, pack your bags, you're coming 156 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. Well, the rest of us are out there 157 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: thinking is a Penny Sewell is the Jamar Chase? What 158 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: is it? Joe Burrow knew that it was going to 159 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: be Jabbar Chase the night before. One more Joe Burrow 160 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: question for you, does it drive you a little nutty 161 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: when he doesn't slide or a run out of bounds? 162 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's a real athlete. You know, 163 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: he's remember he was a point guard in cole In 164 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: high school, I should say, and I think at Athens 165 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: High School. And when I when I heard that he 166 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: was all he was a great basketball player in a 167 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: point guard. Then I knew that he had a sixth 168 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: sense about, you know, playing quarterback and how he could 169 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: transfer that ability as a point guard into playing quarterback, 170 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: because ultimately that's what we are. We are the ultimate 171 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: point guards. We're the ones that are directing our entire 172 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: offense and you know, giving players that we play with 173 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: maybe a tip before a play, or we're talking on 174 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: the sideline about redesigning a play given what we're seeing 175 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball from the opposing defense. 176 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, he is such a 177 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: gifted and talented athlete that he has driven to maybe 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: put himself in some bad situations. But you know, he'll 179 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: learn like the rest of us had to learn the 180 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: hard way. Hopefully he doesn't take any more hits to 181 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: that knee. And it's smart about it, especially when he 182 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: gets to the sideline. You know, one thing about young 183 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: players at our position, and myself included, we put ourselves 184 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: in bad situations because we don't realize just how fast 185 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: the opposing defenses are. I think Joe is starting to 186 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: understand that a little bit more, and that's one of 187 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: the reasons why I think, like when you see the 188 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: pirouette in the pocket and then the ball coming out 189 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: so effortlessly, that means the game is slowing down for him. 190 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: So hopefully he's smart about, you know, taking the hits 191 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: when he should. But I also understand the aggressive nature 192 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: of the athlete that he is. A few more questions 193 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: for the great boomeris Scias and the Bengals offense has 194 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: been dynamic the last couple of weeks, topping thirty points 195 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: in each of their last two games, but the defense 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: has been great for all seven, currently fifth in the 197 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: league and fewest points allowed. It's a relatively small sample size, 198 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: but if we reached the point where you think the 199 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: Bengals have one of the better defenses in the NFL, 200 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, in the NFL today. Last week, prior to 201 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: play in the Ravens, I got a chance to talk 202 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: about the offense because I love it and I love 203 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: what I see there and there's a lot of similarities 204 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: to what we were able to accomplish. But coach Kauer 205 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the defense. He wanted to talk 206 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: about a rebuilt defense and the new faces on that defense. 207 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: And I was thinking back to why did the Bengals 208 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: let Carl Lawson go? Why did they let the Jets 209 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: sign him in the offseason? Well, I know now it's 210 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: because of injury, not because he wasn't a good player. 211 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: It's because he couldn't stay on the field. And they 212 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: felt like they probably needed to redo a lot of 213 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: things on defense, and they did that and they brought guys, 214 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: and I thought that defense a plan. By the way, 215 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: last week against Lamar Jackson was unbelievable. You could see 216 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: when you go back and watch the tape the All 217 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: twenty two and fans should do this on game pass 218 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: NFL game Pass. They can go back and you could 219 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: see kind of like the umbrella way that they were 220 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: trying to rush Lamar, trying to keep him in the pocket, 221 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: and if he was going to escape, it was going 222 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: to be up the middle, and it was going to 223 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: be up the middle he was going to run into somebody. 224 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: So whatever the game plan was, it was perfectly executed 225 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint, and even coach Gauer said last 226 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: week before the game that the real underlying significant improvement 227 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: for the Bengals is on the defensive side of the ball. 228 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: So I think we all see that. And I also 229 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: think their kicking game has been solid this year. So 230 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot to like, you know, halfway through the season, 231 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: and hopefully they can keep it up. As you noted earlier, 232 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: right now, they're the number one playoff seed in the AFC. 233 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: They're one of six teams that has two losses. Is 234 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: the AFC wide open or do you think one of 235 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: those teams is still the most likely team to advance 236 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? You know, I do think that 237 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo and Cincinnati right now are playing the best. Their 238 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are playing great. You know, Buffalo was off last week, 239 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: so we'll see him back in action again this week. 240 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: Since then, I should win this week against the Jets, 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: so that this should stand. I think through the weekend 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: that the Bills have the Dolphins. You know, it would 243 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: be great to see a nineteen eighty eight reunion between 244 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Bengals and maybe maybe even host 245 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: the AFC championship game in Cincinnati. Now, I know, I'm 246 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: getting ahead of myself, but I'm allowed to do that. 247 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the media now. I would never do that 248 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: if I were a player, because that would be considered 249 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: touching the money, and touching the money it's a form 250 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: of bad luck that I would not want to get 251 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: into if I were a player. But you know, do 252 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: I dare to dream to think that that could be 253 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: the case? I would think. So, there are a couple 254 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: of teams that you got off to slow starts that 255 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: are going to be pretty good teams when we get 256 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: the December in January, assuming that they stay healthy. The 257 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Cults will be one of those teams. I don't know 258 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: where Kansas City is going to be in this mix. 259 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: This is going to be really interesting to see what 260 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: happen to them. They may I'll make the playoffs. But 261 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Raiders are really good teams. And 262 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I do believe if you have to play the New 263 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: England Patriots later on in the season or in the 264 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,359 Speaker 1: beginning of the playoffs, that there would be a formidable 265 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: foe as well. So it is wide open, I guess 266 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: to answer your question. But the interesting thing is is 267 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: that the Bengals are right there and I think most 268 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: people now, at least on a national level outside of Cincinnati, 269 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: are taking the Bengal seriously, which is a good thing. 270 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: Last thing, Boomer, you became a grandfather last year when 271 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: your daughter Sydney had a baby, and now your son, 272 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: Gunner is going to be a dad. That would not 273 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: have been possible if not for the work the Assassin 274 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: Foundation has done about assistic fibrosis research. It is remarkable 275 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: to me that being an NFL MVP and taking a 276 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: team to the Super Bowl is the second most important 277 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: thing you have done in your lifetime. Do you feel 278 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: that your skills athletically and as a communicator were the 279 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: reason you were it on this earth to try to 280 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: fight that disease. There's a lot of destin and irony 281 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: in Gunner's diagnosis back in nineteen ninety three, There's no 282 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: question about that. I think the NFL afforded me an 283 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: amazing platform, and I exploited that platform without any apology. 284 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: And Gunner is living today at the age of thirty, 285 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: proving that what we started some twenty seven years ago 286 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: really has left an indelible mark on the cystic fibrosis community. 287 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: So the fact that he's thirty years old. The fact 288 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: that he's doing better now than he's ever done in 289 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: his life, the fact that he's gotten his master's degree, 290 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: he's gotten married, and he's going to be a father 291 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: himself come this December is nothing short of a miracle. 292 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: And to me, Dan, whether it was me that was chosen, 293 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: or Afford that was chosen, or my friend Tommy Hughes, 294 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: or Jay Crandell, or all the other dads and moms 295 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: that have been a part of this fight for all 296 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: these years, I think much like a quarterback. I feel 297 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: very satisfied that we all did this together and that 298 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: Gunner is a living, breathing miracle. And the story really 299 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: truly hasn't been totally told, and hopefully it will be 300 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: one of these days, because you know, I prayed to 301 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: God every night that science would lead us to an answer, 302 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: and God and science together has delivered me a miracle 303 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: in so many ways that I can't even really talk 304 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: to because that we don't have the time too. But 305 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: I can just tell you that when Gunner becomes a 306 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: dad in December, it's going to be one of those 307 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: amazing moments that I only could have hoped and prayed 308 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: that would have happened, and it's going to it's tremendous. 309 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Congratulations to you, Congratulations to Gunner, and thank you so 310 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: much for your time. It's always a treat to have Vian. 311 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, thanks for having me. Always great to see you. 312 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: Since its inception, the Boomerasiason Foundation has raised more than 313 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen million dollars to support research towards 314 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: finding a cure for cystic fibrosis, as well as programs 315 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: directly benefiting the CF community. If you would like to help, 316 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: go to a siasin dot org. You'll find some great 317 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: team Boomer gear up. Next my one on one visit 318 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: with defensive back Eli Apple, who's played a big role 319 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: on one of the NFL's most dominant defenses to date. 320 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, my last week against Baltimore, you did not 321 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: allow a catch. Two weeks ago, against Detroit, you did 322 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: not allow a catch. Three weeks ago against Green Bay, 323 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: you only allowed one. Are you playing the best football 324 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: of your NFL career? And if so, why not? I 325 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: think we're just playing really confident ball as a group 326 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: right now. Everybody's clicking and communication is great, and for me, 327 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: it's just about doing my job. So I'm just doing 328 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: what I can put myself in position to make plays, 329 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: and whenever the targets come, I want to make the play. 330 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: I think this staff might surprise some people. You've played 331 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: the most snaps of Annie Bengals cornerback this year, more 332 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: than Chitabea Wouge, more than Mike Hilton. What does it 333 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: mean to you to play such a prominent role on 334 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: a defense. It's currently number five in the league and 335 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: fewest points allowed. It's great. I mean this is a 336 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: goal we set before the season and be top five 337 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: or better, and we just want to keep striving for more. 338 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: So just gonna continue to grow and get better in practice. 339 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: That's what it's about. We're visiting the Eli Apple. The 340 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: Bengals are off to a five and two start. You've 341 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: been a starter on some really good teams in your 342 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: NFL career, back to back teams in New Orleans that 343 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: went thirteen and three. One of those teams made it 344 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship Game. Do you see any similarities 345 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: to those great teams that you were a part of 346 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: and the current one that you're playing for. Yeah, I 347 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: think so. I think the love and camaraderie across the 348 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: board from top to bottom from everybody's been great communication 349 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: and everything which is vibing the right way, communicating great 350 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: out there on them off the field. So he's got 351 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: to continue to build on everything we've been doing. Did 352 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: you notice that here right away? Oh? Easily, from training camp, 353 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: really old tiers and meetings and stuff, and then once 354 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: we got on the field and making plays together. We're 355 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: chatting with the ely Apple. When you signed here in 356 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: free agency and March, you were reunited with a couple 357 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: of people lou Anna Romo, who is your position coach 358 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: with the Giants, and Von Bell has been your teammate 359 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: in college and in the NFL previously. They clearly believed 360 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: in you and wanted you on this team. Was that 361 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: important to you? Yeah? It was. I Mean those are 362 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: guys I respect a lot and played with and have 363 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: won games with. So definitely respect them and excited to 364 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: be a part of something great here. This is your 365 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: sixth year, You've got nearly four thousand snaps under your 366 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: belt in the NFL. Who are some of the best 367 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: receivers you've faced. Wow, the best receivers of of course, 368 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: like the Julios, Odell Beckham and practice Michael Thomas, those 369 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: guys and Devantay Adams. To me, he's probably the best. 370 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: Right now. You referenced Odell in practice. Now you're practicing 371 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: against some great ones here in Jamar, Chase te Higgins 372 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: and Tyler Boyd. Give me your thoughts on those three guys. Yeah, 373 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: the great receivers who as well, especially you know of 374 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: course with Jamar his breakout has been apparent, but they 375 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: all have great silence and help us get better in practice. 376 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: During training camp, you battled a bit of a hamstring issue. 377 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Were you concerned about the possible impact of that being 378 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: with a new team. Oh, of course, you never know 379 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: how some teams are with injuries, and it was fortunate. 380 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: I never got hurt that early in camp, so it 381 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: was something new for me. And yeah, I'm just glad 382 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: to be healthy and playing right now. So the Bengals 383 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: are headed to New York this week to take on 384 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: the Jets. You weren't with the Jets, but you were 385 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: with the Giants for two and a half years. It's 386 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: the same stadium. You're going back to the meadow Lands. 387 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: Does that add anything to this game for you? Yeah? 388 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: It does. I mean it's gonna be great going back 389 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: to Jersey, so you know, to ties their are known 390 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: for being. It would be great just to see some 391 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: like familiar faces round facility out there that worked there 392 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: and stuff little things like that. But it's of course 393 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: going in there number one to get to win. You 394 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: were the defensive MVP on a national championship team not 395 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: too far away from here at Ohio State, and we're 396 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: the tenth pick in the NFL draft for a reason. 397 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: How do you describe your NFL journey to this point. 398 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: It's been wild. It's been a lot, you know, going 399 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: from a lot of different teams in the last few years. Actually, 400 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: it's been It's been fun, and I'm enjoying the ride, 401 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: and especially the Sharon has been great and had a 402 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: lot of great moments, and we just want to continue 403 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: to finish. The Bengals have kind of been basking in 404 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: the glow of last week's victory at Baltimore, getting a 405 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: lot of positive national publicity as a result. So obviously 406 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: people are wondering, all right, how do they avoid getting 407 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: big headed after that game and take care of business 408 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: against the Jets. How would you answer that question. We're hungry, 409 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: we want more than what we already have, right now. So, yeah, 410 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: we already know an Engal and we just gotta contee 411 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: to work towards every day. That's the fuck this week. 412 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Thank you. Juli was not treated 413 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: kindly by the New York media when he struggled early 414 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: in his NFL career, so I'm sure he would love 415 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: nothing more than to have a great game and a 416 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: Bengals win this Sunday in the Meadowlands. 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Lap In your second NFL season nineteen seventy five, 425 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: the Bengals got off to an eight and one start 426 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: before losing to the O and nine Cleveland Browns. The 427 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: only other games you lost that year were two losses 428 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers. So this week 429 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals are going to say all the right things 430 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: about being up for the one in five jets, But 431 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: how hard is it to be sufficiently motivated in a 432 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: game like this. I remember that loss probably as well 433 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: as almost any win. You know, when you have something 434 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: like that happened to you that you shouldn't happen, but 435 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: it does happen. So yeah, you have to you have 436 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: to buckle down. I mean, there's no question about it. 437 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: As the old saying goes, it's seventeen one and all 438 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: seasons is what you're trying to get done. And it's 439 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: hard to do, there's no doubt about it. But we 440 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: had three division losses. We were eleven and three, but 441 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: we had three division losses and lost twice to Pittsburgh 442 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: and they went twelve and two and won the division. 443 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: We went as a wild card. But you can never 444 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: take anything for granted in this league. That's one thing 445 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: that I found out pretty early on as a player 446 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: that it just sometimes a plus beat doesn't always equals See, 447 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: there's no question about that. Does it have to come 448 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: from the players this week, because we know the coaches 449 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: since the invention of sports have sent the right messages 450 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: in a game like this, but doesn't have to come 451 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: within the locker room. Absolutely, Dan, because the coaches, I 452 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: mean they can. They can give you all the verbal 453 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: warnings and throw all the stats and all the stories 454 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: they can tell until they're blue in the face. Sometimes 455 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't register until it's too late. You get out 456 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: there and all of a sudden, Man, these guys and 457 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: they don't look like they looked on film. You know, 458 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: it's like, these guys are pretty good. So if you're not, 459 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: if you're not ready to go and you get out 460 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: there and I think you can kick it into gear, 461 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: that's that's that's tough to accomplish. That's tough to get done. 462 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: Um So, And when you look at the Jets on 463 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: tape defensive line, they play like a wide nine technique 464 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: with their defensive ends and they crash. I mean, it's 465 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a challenge. They're two inside defensive tackles 466 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: are good. They're solid players. So it's not going to 467 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: be any day off, any kind of picnic. I think 468 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: the area they're struggling a little bit is at the 469 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: linebacker level. They're not playing great at linebacker They've got 470 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: a couple of young guys in the secondary, but I 471 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: think they're solid back there. But the way the Bengals 472 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps is playing, I think they should be 473 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, should be okay. I think that in a 474 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: situation like this, the constant that you're looking for in 475 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: the constant they've had all year long as the defense 476 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: coming out and shutting down the opponent and maybe let 477 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: the offense kind of, you know, get themselves into into 478 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: gear a little bit, because you know, offensively, it's it's 479 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: so much more timing and coordination, defense, read and react 480 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: more kind of that that scenario sou And then offensively, 481 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean they get speed at wide receiver, they're they're 482 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: they're pretty good there. I think the offensive line it's 483 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: not it's not great by any stretch, but it's it's 484 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: solid enough. Of Course, you don't know what's going to happen. 485 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike White will be the quarterback I would 486 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: think for this game, and you know it's sure exactly 487 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: how he's going to play, but that's that's the thing. 488 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Then the unknown sometimes you don't know exactly if they'll 489 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: game plan the same way they're they've been game planner 490 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: for Zach Wilson at the quarterback position or not. So 491 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things you just can't take for 492 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: granted in a football game like this. And New York 493 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: hasn't been friendly to the Bengals. They had a nine 494 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: game losing streak going to New York the last time 495 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: they were there in twenty sixteen, one by a point 496 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: twenty three twenty two to snap that nine game losing streak. 497 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: So and again coach is going to talk all about that. 498 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean a hill of beans to these two teams. 499 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean the two it's a totally different situation. You 500 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: can go into a historical perspective and speel on all 501 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: you want pontificate, but like you said, the players are 502 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: going to determine and decide how they come out and 503 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: how they play in this football game. Period. Here's my concern, 504 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: and it's not a fear, but it is a concern. 505 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: They picked up Joe Flacca this week. He's not going 506 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: to get there in time to play. I guess he's 507 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: not even expected to report until Friday. So they're going 508 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: to elevate Josh Johnson from the practice squad. We know Josh, 509 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: he was the Bengals back up in twenty thirteen. He's 510 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: thirty five years old. He's been with fourteen different NFL teams, 511 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: if you include training camp and practice squad, etc. I 512 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: could see Mike White getting off to a terrible start. 513 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: Josh Johnson comes in, he's running around, he's got no fear, 514 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: he makes a few plays, and they're in the game. 515 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: That is my concern again, not my fear, but that 516 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: is my concern. It's plausible, you know, I mean, and 517 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: he's he's that kind of player. I agree, Um, you know, 518 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like, wow, if he's that great, 519 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: why didn't he Why isn't even a player all those years? 520 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: And why is it with all those football teams? But 521 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about one specific game, one specific day, one 522 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: specific day in time. I mean, it's not it's it's like, 523 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: it's it can happen. Will it happen? You know, don't 524 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: don't hope, hope not, don't think so. But you know, 525 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: I guess the maybe the uh, the elixir for that. 526 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: Maybe look at how well they played the week before 527 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: against a Pro Bowl guy that has those kind of skills, 528 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, so hopefully there'd be some very over into 529 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: how they mush rushed and all those kind of things. 530 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, they could make some adjustments on the fly, 531 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: hopefully going back to you know, maybe some things that 532 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: they implemented in a game plan to handle the most 533 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: mobile and athletic guy in the league. Excellent point, all right, 534 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is off to the best seven game start 535 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: by a rookie receiver in NFL history. In their wildest dreams, 536 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: do you think the Bengals anticipated he would have this 537 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: big of an immediate impact. I can't imagine it, you know. 538 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think they realized, you know, right away, 539 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: when this guy runs routes, you know, it's like you 540 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: see power in so many different ways. I mean, he's 541 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: got so much lower body power, and when he sinks 542 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: his hips and gets in and out of cots man, 543 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: it's like it's explosive, you know. And he's got the 544 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: shortest space quickness. A lot of guys have short space quickness. 545 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: Just like unbelievable how strong and powerfully is making his moves. 546 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: He is that he'll run down the football field and 547 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: jump jump at the cornerback and then go one way 548 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: or the other like a like a running back will 549 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: jump cut but the running back has one point on 550 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: the ground when he's jumping. This guy airborne and lands 551 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: and can go either way explosively, and he's, uh, he's 552 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: you know, he's a strong body. Guy's well over two 553 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: hundred pounds, you know. So in the end of the 554 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: thing that just in my mind separates him is how 555 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: calm his upper body is when he's running like I 556 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: mean fast and he's tracking the ball because he's not 557 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: really exerting his upper body and bob in his head. 558 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: He can just track a ball like crazy when he's 559 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: going full speed and he's you know, he's got that acceleration, 560 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: he's top speed and he's just his upper body is 561 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: so calm um. He's he is a special, special player. 562 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: There's there's no doubt. And he just wonder when they're 563 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: going to start tilting covers that way a little bit more. 564 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: They put their best cornerback on him, but it's a 565 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: rare bird indeed has the best cornerback trailing him and 566 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: then puts another guy on him. I mean that that's 567 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. So you wonder are they going to 568 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: stay with the same formula of putting their best cornerback 569 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: on him, or where they put the best cornerback on 570 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: the number two receiver and double him and see how 571 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: that works. So are they going to make adjustments to 572 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase? But he and Joe Burrow they seem to 573 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: have an answer for every test man. It's there, and 574 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: they started together. I mean, they're they're study partners. They're 575 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: on the same page. It's unbelievable. You're common about how 576 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: still his head is is interesting because your buddy Brian 577 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: Baldanger I said this week you could put a Starbucks 578 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: on top of his head and you wouldn't spell a drop. Yeah. 579 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Mine was you could put an egg on there and 580 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: it wouldn't roll off, you know, I mean the same 581 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: type of thing. That was a comment I made about 582 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: watching him run. It's it's it's incredible how you know 583 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: and you know how it is, Dan. I mean, you 584 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: got a helmet and face mask and if you're if 585 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: your head's bobbing around and you know, now the ball 586 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 1: looks like it's uh, it's on it's in a wind tunnel. 587 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's moving around now, and you he's just 588 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: smooth and his head still and he's tracking that thing 589 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: and plucking it. How did he drop those passes in 590 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: the preseason. I have no idea what you're talking about. 591 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: All right, In their first five games this year, the 592 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: Bengals did not score more than twenty four points in 593 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: regulation and any in any of them in the last 594 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: two thirty four points in Detroit, forty one in Baltimore. 595 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: What stood out in the last couple of games to you, Yeah, 596 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: I just the explosive plays, you know. I think they 597 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: had eleven plays of twenty one yards and more, you know, 598 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: runs then passes and uh. And when you start chunking 599 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: like that boy Dutches, you get you get all kinds 600 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: of confidence going and that helps the defense and the 601 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: offense obviously feels a little bit more invincible and defensively 602 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: when you know the offense is going out there and 603 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: scoring in those big shots, boy, that gives you a 604 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: jolt of energy. There's there's no question about it. But 605 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I do think that the constant has been the defense. 606 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Like we know, they're the only defense in the league 607 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: that hasn't given up more than twenty five points all 608 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: season and not more than twenty two in regulation all season. 609 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, the Green Bay game, they get three in 610 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: overtime to win it. So that's been a they've been very, 611 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: very consistent and constant. Offensively, it's been kind of you know, 612 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: they've been lulls. They've been you know, three straight three 613 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: an ounce one game, two straight, another game and the 614 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: three out of four possessions and another and then and 615 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: then they'll get going. The biggest constant for them offensive 616 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: there's been two minutes to go on the second quarter 617 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: and to start the third quarter. I mean, that's where 618 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: they've they've been as dynamic as anybody in the NFL. 619 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: They leave the league with thirty four points coming out 620 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: of out of the locker room in the first drive 621 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: of the third quarter, and with the in the final 622 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: two minutes they've they're in the they're they're tied for 623 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: third with thirty four points in that time frame two. 624 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: So sixty eight of their eighty nine points have come 625 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: in those two in those two period of time frames, 626 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: which is great. But you know this thing about this team, Dan, 627 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: that that is exciting me. They haven't put together four 628 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: quarters of football yet. It's been they have defensively, they 629 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: haven't yet quite yet offensively and defensively there's still more 630 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: to get. I mean, they've played four good quarters, but 631 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: they can play even better for four quarters, So they 632 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: haven't they even You're not going to ever play a 633 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: perfect game, There's that's impossible. But I still think there 634 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: is more for them to them to generate, you know, 635 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: in terms of being a complete team and uh, you know, 636 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: and one unit supporting the other complimentary football. When it 637 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: comes to the defense, I'm about to put you on 638 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: the spot. Their fifth in the league in points allowed, sixth, 639 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: in rushing yards per attempt sixth, and passing yards per 640 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: pass they're tied for fifth and sacks. Here comes the 641 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: question who deserves the bulk of the credit, Duke Tobin 642 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: for the free agent acquisitions or defensive coordinator lou and 643 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: Romo for how he's scheming these guys up. You know, 644 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: that's like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Peanut butter 645 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: sandwich is good, the jelly sandwich is good. Peanut butter 646 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: and jelly is better to get. So it's like I 647 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: think last year watching the Baltimore game again, I mean, 648 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: Louke was trying to do a lot of the same 649 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: things schematically to Baltimore and just didn't have the horses 650 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: to do it. So, um, you know, it's it's it is. 651 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where if you you can, 652 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: you can scheme till your heart's content. If you don't 653 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: have the players, it won't really matter that much. You know, 654 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: if one team has better football players, they're high percentage 655 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: of the time going to win the football game. So 656 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: I think that you know, Duke and his staff getting 657 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: the players that they got and signing them in free 658 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: agency and hitting on the ones they hit on in 659 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: the draft, and trading for b J. Hill, and I 660 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: mean a lot of things that they've done. Man, they 661 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: put their bat on the ball. So I do think 662 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: it's a you know, it is a it is a combination. 663 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: I'd i'd give them. I'd give them co MVPs of that, 664 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'd give them both the same award and 665 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: just cut it right in half, or him an award 666 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: and let one keeping an office Monday Wednesday Friday about 667 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: the other one Tuesday Thursday. We turn to the offensive line. 668 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus has the offensive line pass Blocking Efficiency Rating. 669 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: That's what they go with. They've got the Bengals number ten, 670 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: one spot ahead of the Cleveland Browns. ESPN has its 671 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: pass block Win Rate Metric. They've got the Bengals down 672 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: at number twenty two, they have Cleveland number one. So 673 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: this stuff is very subjective. What do you like about 674 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: what you're seeing from the offensive line right now? You 675 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: know what I like is again the quarterback meshing with 676 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: the offensive line. The offensive line knows and I've been 677 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: there that if you give Joe Burrow half a second war, 678 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be instead of an incompletion, could be 679 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: a massive big play because you know that there are 680 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: skill players everywhere, and it's like, man, I just gotta guy. 681 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: They can do it. We have a guy that can 682 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: can pitch it anywhere. So let's let's give him time 683 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: to operate. And so I think that that motivates you to, 684 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, be a little bit more focused and tighter 685 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: with everything you're doing, and then you start to feed 686 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: off each other up front a little bit. Plus it 687 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: with Joe when you do have a little bit of 688 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: an issue. He is so good at manipulating the pocket. 689 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: And he's coming back to that. He was talking about 690 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: that today at his pressor that he feels like he's 691 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: getting close to where he was before the tragic acl 692 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: injury and the reconstruction. But that is that's gold for 693 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: an offensive line. Man, when you have a quarterback that 694 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, here, can a little slidesteps, step up, 695 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: eyes in the back of the head, you know, know 696 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: exactly when to that. There they are closed in on 697 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: him for the final time. After he has manipulated the 698 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: pocket with slidesteps and climb steps and all that sort 699 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: of thing, and then gets it down the football field, 700 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, man, Joe saved my butt. Man, I 701 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: gotta go save his A few times that kind of 702 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: stuff everybody. It gets contagious, you know, and guys start 703 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: to feed off each other and you start to feel like, man, 704 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: nobody can beat us. Man, you know we got we 705 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: got it going out here. So I think, you know, 706 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting. Maybe maybe one of these statistical companies decide 707 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: that if Joe Burrow has to climb the pocket and 708 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: those kind of things, you know, that they may they 709 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: may grade harsher on the offensive line when those things 710 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: occur than others. I mean, like you said, it is 711 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: all subjective pressure, is okay? Well, did pressure mean that 712 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: he had to climb the pocket? Well, not really. If 713 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: the center and guards did a good job and the 714 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: tackles kept the pocket wide. It's okay if he climbs 715 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: the pocket and throws the football. Some people may think 716 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: anytime the quarterback moves that was pressure, you know, the 717 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: defensive ends. If they're just you know, blowing up the 718 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: football field, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're you know, 719 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: there's jeopardy or a quarterback getting smashed. So it is. 720 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: It is all very subjective, but I do think that 721 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: they have a guy who can, you know, find little 722 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: spaces to take advantage. Not to say that he can't 723 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: get out of pocket and succeed, you know, I compare 724 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: compare his skill set to Aaron Rodgers, because Aaron Rodgers 725 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: is great at manipulating the pocket and then he can 726 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: get out and run and people, you know, don't really 727 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: give him. They underestimate his ability to pick him up 728 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: and put him down. I think Joe's a little bit 729 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: like that with people. I'm not saying he's Lamar Jackson 730 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but he's He's pretty good the 731 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: way he can extend plays. Some quarterbacks can extend him 732 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: out of pocket, some can extend in pocket. Very few 733 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: can do both. And he's one of those guys that 734 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: can can do both and that's a big That's like 735 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: I said, that's solid gold for an offensive line. All right, 736 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: last thing, we are off to the Meadowlands this weekend. 737 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: It's obviously the home of the Jets and the Giants. 738 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: When you played the Jets early in your career, those 739 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: games were at Chase Stadium. I grew up a New 740 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: York Mets fan, so going to Chase Sam for me 741 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: as a kid was a huge thrill. But it didn't 742 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: look like the best place to play NFL football? Am 743 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: I correct? You are? There's a lot of dirt out there, 744 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: There's no question. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't the greatest 745 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: place in the world. But the first time that I 746 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: did go to Shay Stadium, Joe Namath was playing, and man, 747 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like a little kid at Christmas. 748 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I cannot believe I'm on the same football 749 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: field as Joe Names. I literally honestly wished I could 750 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: take an autograph book out there and get Joe name 751 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: as autograph. He didn't play well that day. That was 752 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: his last might have been his last gam or close 753 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: to it. We had four interceptions on him that day. 754 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: Kenny Riley had three of them. And I think he 755 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: took one back to the house if I'm not mistaken, 756 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: and it was I kind of felt bad for my hero, 757 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: you know, It's like, Wow, I'm glad we were kicking 758 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: their butt, but I wish Joe Joe wasn't so a big, 759 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: such a big factor in it, but he was. He 760 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: was definitely a guy that that I'm like, I can't 761 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: believe that I'm actually in the National Football Are you 762 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: go on the same fields as Joe Namath? But yeah, 763 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: that was not It was not the greatest, uh the 764 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: greatest field in the world. And you know, you had 765 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: home plate, the pitchers mound, you had infield, you had, 766 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: you had little dirt piles everywhere. You know, you had 767 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: to it. I imagine it was probably a pretty good 768 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: advantage for the home team, you know, to know where 769 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: the pitfalls were as such. So, um, yeah, it was. 770 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: It was interesting playing at Shay Stadium. I'm pretty sure 771 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: Joe Namath had a zero point zero passer rating in 772 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: that game. And while you may have felt bad for him, 773 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: think of it this way. There's probably a pretty good 774 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: chance that after that game he was in the company 775 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: of a gorgeous date. Based on his track record at 776 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: least one. It may have been multiple, multiple of voluptuos. 777 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: Joe was the man key. Quarterback Zach Wilson isn't exactly 778 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: the next Joe Namath off the field. He's a Mormon 779 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: who attended BYU, but the Jets took Wilson with a 780 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: second pick in this year's draft with the hope that 781 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: he will eventually play like Broadway Joe. He's got a 782 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: long way to go. Wilson ranks next to last and 783 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: passer rating and completion percentage, and has more than twice 784 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: as many interceptions nine as touchdown passes with four. Wilson 785 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: won't play for the next few weeks due to a 786 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: knee injury, so former Western Kentucky star Mike White gets 787 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: the start lap and I discussed that and more on 788 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals Game Plan Show with Rich Sumini, who covers 789 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: the Jets for ESPN. I started our conversation by asking 790 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: Rich where the Jets are strongest, Partly looking at it 791 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: from the Cincinnati perspective, I think the things you would 792 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: have to look out for are their front four. That 793 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: is the strength of their defense. They have some pretty 794 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: good players of the front four, mostly Quinned Williams, John Franklins. 795 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: They had a game three games ago where they actually 796 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: had seven sacks in one game. So that's one area 797 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: I would be concerned with. And they do have some 798 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: wide receivers and they don't have a Jamar Chase, but 799 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: they have some confident wide receivers. You know, Corey Davis 800 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: as a proven pro team with Jamison Crowders. So they 801 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: do have some players on the perimeter. But I'd say 802 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: that's about it right now. You know, they're they're very 803 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: devoid of talent right now. You know, I look at 804 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: a little tape in that front four that you're talking about, 805 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: Rich they don't play those defensive ends on a wide 806 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: nine technique kind of thing, you know, really and then 807 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: just angle them and just crash them inside. And I agree, 808 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: I think the defensive tackle pair is strong. I mean, 809 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: that's a good duo that that's that's about as good 810 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: as anybody. It seems to me, though, watching Are the 811 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: linebackers struggling as much as it looks on tape? Are 812 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: they really having issues there? Yeah, that's a great point. 813 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: They're linebacker. They will get some good news though this 814 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: week because C. J. Mosley is going to play their 815 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: middle linebacker. He did not play last week against New 816 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: England and it was basically chaos on defense. They tried 817 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: a rookie in that spot to call the defensive signals 818 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: and it went just as you would expect with a 819 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: rookie in there, and the players didn't even know how 820 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: to get lined up. So they'll get CJ back in 821 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: there and that will help them. And there's also they're 822 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: fairly optimistic that Jared Davis, the former number one pick 823 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: of the Detroit Lions a few years ago, will be 824 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: back this week. He has not played since the preseason. 825 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: He's coming off an ankle injury. He was designated for 826 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: return today and he did practice, so I think there's 827 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: a reasonably good chance that he will play on Sunday. 828 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: So their linebacking corps will be much better than it 829 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: was last week. Our guest is Rich Somini. He covers 830 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: the Jets for ESPN. Let's talk about the guy that's 831 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: expected to start at quarterback this week, Mike White out 832 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: of Western Kentucky. I actually saw him start against the 833 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: UC bearcad when he was playing for the University of 834 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: South Florida. Got in last week when Zach Wilson went down. 835 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: How do you think he looked? The numbers were okay, 836 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: how did he look? Yeah, I mean he did okay 837 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: considering it was his first NFL appearance, I mean, his 838 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: first NFL froze a touchdown past to Corey Davis. So 839 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good way to start your career. He 840 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,959 Speaker 1: is a guy who you know, quite frankly, we haven't 841 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: seen a lot of Dad. You've probably seen more of 842 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: them than I have. He played a little bit in 843 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: the preseason. He made the team as their number two quarterback. 844 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: It was a kind of a big controversy in the 845 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: preseason they decided not to go with a veteran backup. 846 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: I was I think I wrote several columns on that, 847 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: how they were making a big mistake, and I think 848 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: that is going to come back to bite him right now. 849 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: I think Mike White is probably a practice squad player, 850 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: a third string type player. He's got a good arm, 851 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. He's got no mobility though, 852 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: and of course he's you know, the inexperience is obvious. 853 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: So it's going to be really tough for them on 854 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: Sunday with Mike Waited quarterback, Well, it doesn't look like 855 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco will be much of a factor. He's not 856 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: even there yet, right, he hasn't reported yet, but right 857 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: the fact that he was there and he's got some 858 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: kind of familiarity with you know, teammates, different system and 859 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: all that, but he's been around a long time. Is 860 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: he the emergency quarterback? Are they going to go in 861 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: a different direction while they go with Johnson? What are 862 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: they going to do? Yeah? I think Johnson, Josh Johnson 863 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: will probably be the number two on Sunday. As you mentioned, Dave, 864 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, Flacco for some reason, they're saying it's personal reasons. 865 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: He's not actually reporting to a Friday, although he did 866 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: virtual meetings with them today, but he won't actually be 867 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: on the practice field till Friday. So I would think, 868 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: coming into a new system that it would be kind 869 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: of a stretch to say he'll be their number two. 870 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 1: I think maybe the following week he'd move into that role, 871 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: But this week, I think he's probably going to be inactive. 872 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: We're chatting two. We're chatting with rich to Menia covers 873 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: the New York Jets for e ESPN. What are your 874 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: impressions of Robert Sala to this point, well, you know, 875 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: I was very much in favor of that higher. I 876 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: thought it was a good hire by the Jets. I mean, 877 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: he had a good resume with San Francisco, was a 878 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl coordinator on defense, and the kind of personality, upbeat, 879 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: passionate guy, leader of men that you needed in the 880 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: aftermass of the Adam gayst debacle, which just really sapped 881 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: all the energy out of the organization. They needed someone 882 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: with some life and some energy to come in, and 883 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: I think he fit that bill. Now, obviously there's there's 884 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: some questions that have come up. You know, in recent weeks, 885 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: the team is regressing, it's not getting better, and so 886 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: that's a concern. They had a bye week to figure 887 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: out how to play against the Patriots, and they went 888 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: out and suffered one of their worst defeats and franchise history. 889 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: They give up fifty four points. That was the most 890 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: in a game in forty nine years for the Jets, 891 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: so actually forty two years, but still so yeah, there's 892 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: been some questions. The fan base is getting restless right now. 893 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: They thought this was going to be a new era. 894 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: We haven't seen the results yet, but I think you 895 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: have to remember and you pointed it out right at 896 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: the top game. This is an extremely young team. It's 897 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: the youngest team in the league. They're playing anywhere from 898 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 1: six to seven to eight rookies on a weekly basis. 899 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: So rich in your interactions with the organization. What is 900 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: the feeling that the Jets have with respect to the 901 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals in their start this season? Well, you know, 902 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 1: I think the Jets are I think this is going 903 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: to be a tough game. I mean, they're confident. They 904 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: claim that they've you know, put away last week's miserable loss. 905 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that's like a loss like 906 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: that sticks with you for a while. I don't think 907 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: you walk away from fifty four to thirteen that easily. 908 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: I think it stays with you a little bit, especially 909 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: when you're a young team and you know you're confidence 910 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: is more fragile. So I think the first quarter will 911 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: be very key for this Jet team on Sunday, because 912 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: if they get off to another bad start, I could 913 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,919 Speaker 1: just see it snowballing out of control. I can't believe 914 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: they haven't scored a point yet in the first quarter. 915 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's remarkable. Yeah, it's quite right. I 916 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: was gonna slip that at some point. Uh yeah, I 917 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: mean it's historic. I mean I have I have a 918 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: ton of stats on it, but I mean it's something 919 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: you don't see every day. They have not literally they've 920 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: been outscores forty four to nothing in the first quarter 921 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: of games. And I think some of that is having 922 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,720 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. You know, it takes it took Wilson, 923 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, a you know, a little a few series 924 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: to get and settled into the game and pick up 925 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: the rhythm. I think some of that goes to the 926 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: young quarterback, but some of it is just, you know, 927 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: just poor communication among the offensive line. You know, they 928 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: have a new offensive coordinator, Michael Floor. He's the younger 929 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: brother of Matt and this is his first time as 930 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, and I think his inexperience is showing 931 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: as well. Rich you've covered this team for a long 932 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: time for several different outlets. What do you consider to 933 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: be rock bottom? Well, last week was right there. I mean, Dan, 934 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: I've covered the team. There's only the second time in 935 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: thirty years covering the Jets that they allowed more than 936 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: fifty points. So you know, that's something you don't see 937 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: every day. And you know, there's been so many rock bottoms. 938 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: We were talking about it in the press room today. 939 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean the butt fumble game in twenty and twelve 940 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: against New England where they lost by thirty or forty 941 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 1: points was just embarrassing from a laughing stock kind of perspective. So, Dan, 942 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: I know your show is limited, and we could go 943 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: on forever. There's been so many roots, there's so many 944 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: rock bottom points I could pick up. I mean, look, 945 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: I covered the code tight years. You know that's enough said. 946 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: What more do I have to say? I guess on 947 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 1: a more positive note, Brand boy Er, is he doing 948 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 1: a pretty good job special teams. They're return games pretty good. 949 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean they're third in the NFL and punter returns 950 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: fourth and kickoff returns burials. Must be the real deal. Huh. Yeah, 951 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: he's a good coach. Brand Boyers a guy who's been 952 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: been here through three different coaching resume, Todd Bulls, out 953 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,959 Speaker 1: of Gaze and now with Robert Sala. Yeah, he knows 954 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: his stuff. You know they've had they had to change 955 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: punters because the brad Man got injured. But they've brought 956 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: in Morestead from New Orleans and he's done Okay, you're 957 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 1: right about the return games. You know, they are pretty 958 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: solid across the board. They're probably their most dangerous returners 959 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Coleman, and I don't think he's gonna play this 960 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 1: week because of a hamstring injury, but special teams. Let's 961 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: put it this way, guys, it's an area that hasn't 962 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: killed him yet. So it's the only area that probably 963 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: hadn't killed him yet, which probably was just like I 964 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: just put the jinks on him. Something bad will happen 965 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Final question, Rich and appreciate your time. You 966 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: carved a lot for us, and we really appreciate that. 967 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: As a former offensive line and I guess I'm looking 968 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: at the offensive line and I mean, is it Are 969 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: they playing pretty solidly? How's the old line doing? Yeah, 970 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: that's it's kind of a mixed bag back there because 971 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: their pass protection is actually improved. Over the first three 972 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: games they had allowed fifteen sacks. And I'm thinking about 973 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, I don't think Zach Will's going 974 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: to make it much longer because you're getting hit so much. 975 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 1: But they actually improved that pass protection. But they can't 976 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: run block, you know, for whatever reason. I don't. I 977 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a new scheme. You know, they're 978 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 1: doing the outside zone scheme. This is basically the forty 979 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 1: nine ers offense, and they just haven't adjusted to that yet. 980 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: There's just a lack of communication that they'll be unblocked players, 981 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: three runners, you know, just just breakdowns that should not 982 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: be happening at this stage. And their right guard is 983 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: this really struggling Greg van Rote. I imagine Sunday won't 984 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: be much better for him. So their offensive line is 985 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: getting a little better, but not really nearly where it 986 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: should be. Thanks to Rich Samini. 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