1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt kicking off our number truiter. The time 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: for a little fantasy football focus. And now that we 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: know the schedule and how things lay out there, it's 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: time to take a look at how the schedules affect 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: fantasy football. 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and looks one huge thing that's an issue. I 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: think there's six teams on by when most fantasy playoffs start. Yeah, 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean it's bizarre. 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Clay looking at that here on ESPN. According 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: to him, the easiest fantasy schedule belongs to the New 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: Orleans Saints. 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 3: Okay this year? So is he this doing like by 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: opposing defenses. I mean, I know that the Saints have 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: an easy schedule by NFL standards. Okay. Like I'm in 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: this dynasty league is super flex and I've got a 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: bunch of quarterbacks and car is one of them. I 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: couldn't give him away, see, I mean, like everyone's so 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: down on him, But I mean I'm not saying he's 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: a top twelve quarterback by no means, but that offense 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: might not be bad when they drafted a lineman. So 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: here's the Lave's going to be really good. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: So they have only three games against teams that project 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: is harder than average on defense, and against the Browns, 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and the Cowboys. Okay, they have a dozen 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: games against defenses that project among the ten worst in 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: the league. 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: So that's all he broke it down. That's a good way. 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: Looking at Panthers twice, Falcons twice, Buccaneers twice. 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: I bet weather's not a problem for them this year. 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: Right, Eagles, Giants, Chargers, Broncos, Commanders, and Rams. 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, who knows, but those three tough ones 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: are tough, but the weak ones are really weak. 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the other teams that have the easiest schedules, they're 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: running out the top five, the Panthers, the Bears, the Falcons, 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: the Seahawks. 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: So are there any specific players you would look at 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: from those groups and spike them? You know, like that's 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: a hard question because like DK Metcalf and a Lave 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: or I mean, you're they're getting drafted pretty high, no matter, 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: they're good, and you know, right, we know they're good, 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: but maybe a Kyle Pitts or maybe the rookie Brooks 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: with the Panthers, or Deonta or you know what I mean, 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: somebody that you're a little kinder too. Like I would 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: break ties with this information, right, you know, I wouldn't 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: like shoot them up ten spots on my receiver list, 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: but I'd break ties with it. 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: The toughest fantasy schedule this year belongs to the Buffalo Bills. 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: See that scares me, Like I think Josh Allen will 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: be the consensus quarterback one, and that information probably doesn't 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: sway me from that. But Coleman Kincaid Cook, they're not 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: the most proven guys around, and if they have a 56 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: little tougher go of things, plus they're a weather team 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: to begin with, I may lean against those guys. 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: Here's my only problem with this, Okay, he said, He's 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: saying projected top ten defenses know what they're going to 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: play against. The Jets twice, the Ravens, the forty nine ers, 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: the Jaguars. I don't see that as a top ten defense, 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: and the Dolphins twice. And I don't see the Dolphins 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: as a top ten defense, but I. 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: Do see the Patriots, who they played twice, the top 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: ten defense, right, tell them where the projections are coming from. 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: Maybe the thing to do is, I mean, we don't 67 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: have the manpower to do it, but who are the 68 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: top ten defenses? Who the defenses you don't want to 69 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: play against? Who the defenses you definitely want to play against? 70 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: And then everybody else is in the middle. 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: Yea. 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: You know, if you look at the schedule grid and 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: be like, boy, they got five red one and three 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: green ones, you know, yeah, all right? 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: The other top fives the worst, I should say, the 76 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: toughest fantasy schedules. According to to Mike Clay, number two 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: is Detexans. Okay, three is the Browns, the Patriots, and 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: the Rams. 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: The Patriots. 80 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: Don't draft. 81 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: The Patriots are gonna be hard. 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: I know you're a Remondra, but. 83 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: Man, he's not gonna be winning closing out games with 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: Carrie after carry, that's for sure. Those other teams don't 85 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: scare me that much, though, he said Houston was one 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: of them. Houston, Cleveland, Cleveland I'd lean against because I'm much. 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: They get two or three games every year up there. 88 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: They are just mudfests. Yes, they just completely screw your 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: entire weekend, even when chubbles at his best store. You know, 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: Cooper catches two passes or I mean, you're no brainer. 91 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: Starters from Browns of the last couple of years just 92 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: get literally washed out. It's a forty mile an hour 93 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: wind on the lake and you can't throw the football, 94 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: and it's raining and you can't run the football. It's 95 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: just as a mudfest. 96 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: I would say, more than any other team, more than 97 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: the Bears, more than the Packers. Packers don't get hit 98 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: by weather till like the playoffs, right, Buffalo is always late, 99 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: you know, but it's bad. 100 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: I mean it's clear when that happens in like October. 101 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: Yes, that could just be a random Sunday when a 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: storm comes through and the wind right, it's right on 103 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: the lake. And I don't know who I'm super excited 104 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: about for fantasy at their ADP right now anyway. 105 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: No, I'm with you. 106 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: I mean, Cooper's good. I underrate him all the time, 107 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: but he's got competition and who's his quarterback? And he's 108 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: not exactly a Mutter. I'm kind of inn a Djoku fan, 109 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: but as the tight end eight or nine, you know, 110 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: maybe about ten that go out of my way to 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: get them, you know. 112 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: Right, positional upgrades and down graz that he looks at 113 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: here he has. 114 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: I just made a trade one second ago. Oh de alert, 115 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: So this is as. 116 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: You're locked in on the show here. 117 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: Well, I offered it a while back and it popped 118 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: up and I was like, ah, he said yes. So 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: this is a Dynasty League that I won last year. 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: Like I start Josh Allen every week, which is awesome. 121 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: I start Mark Andrews every week, which is awesome. And 122 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: I have like six receivers that are studs. I want 123 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: to give you credit for this because I have like 124 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, I have Saint Brown, I have Garrett Wilson, 125 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: I have Pittman, I have Ayuk, and I have like 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: two others that are very startable. And we were talking 127 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: about Ayuk the other day. And my running backs are bad, 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: to be honest with you, Like, my best running backs 129 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: are Nausey and Warren. But you only can start. You 130 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: can just get away with starting one, which is kind 131 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: of nice. So one I moved from one twelve, I 132 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: had the last pick in the first round to two 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: oh five, and I picked up Aaron Jones just as 134 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: a back to help me get through, right, And then 135 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: I offered this deal. Guys kind of threw Ayuk out 136 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: there because as we talked about, I think he's a 137 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: bad and you'd said this, and I've been thinking about 138 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: it a lot since then. I own him a lot. 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: I think he's a better NFL player than fantasy player. 140 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: So to kind of protect my butt, I traded Ayuk 141 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: and for some reason he wanted Damian Pierce. You can 142 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: have him. I mean, that's just a throw in for 143 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: me for this dude's future first, his future first a 144 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: year from now, the first pick in the third room 145 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: this year, and Nexer's future third. So it's just a 146 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: ton of collateral, you know, Like do I need that? 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't even start for me right this second, 148 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: but I'll probably take one of those future first and 149 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: try to turn it into like Reese Hall or or 150 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: or somebody, you know, something like that. And you know, 151 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: I could see why somebody won Ayuk for two future first. 152 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't, if you're a weak at receiver 153 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: right right. 154 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: You know, he's trying to compete now, you know, So 155 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. 156 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: So some some players he's upgrading based on the schedule, 157 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: kah this being Mike Clay, Caleb Williams and Jordan Love 158 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: at quarterback. 159 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I wonder what their playoff looks like weatherwise though. 160 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Running back is tay J. Spears and Tony Pollard, Okay, 161 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: Devin A. Chan and Raheem Moster. 162 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I do know Miami has some rough weather late 163 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: in the year. I don't think he's accounting for weather. No, 164 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: probably he's just accounting for defenses, which is something it's important. 165 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: Wide receiver, you're also looking at some of those same 166 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: guys Christian Watson, Jay and Reed, DJ Morgan, Allen Romadunzie. 167 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: If you're upgrading the quarterback, you're gonna upgrade receivers. 168 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: But the problem is I'd rather upgrade to the quarterback 169 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: because all those guys have three receivers, right, I could 170 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: easily pick the wrong one. 171 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: The tight ends TJ. Hawkinson, who might go number one overall. 172 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: I don't know how healthy he is yet. Yeah, I 173 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: haven't heard anything new on him in a long time, 174 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: but boy, he's a fantasy asset. 175 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: And chicken Quonkoll We're gonna get on the chicken quon quote. 176 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: I can't do that, not after Hopkins Ridley Boyd. How 177 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: many targets is he going to get? Yeah? And I 178 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: kind of like the player, but he's not. 179 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: It's gonna look like the first and last letters of 180 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: his name. Oh uh, you know yeah, downgrades. This is interesting. 181 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow to a Tago VI looa. I guess are 182 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: gonna those guys are gonna be too like after that 183 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: first wave of quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah, those guys are in 184 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: that second wave that. 185 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: I bet neither one ends up on my team. Yeah, 186 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: neither exactly. The pillar health either, right, and they don't run. 187 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: I have a I'm going to be extremely prejudice against 188 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: non running quarterbacks this year. You gotta give me at 189 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 3: least twenty yards on the ground. I mean, give me 190 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson or more per game. Yeah, you know, the 191 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: pure pocket guys, I mean like Golf and two uh 192 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 3: and Burrow they're good Stafford, you know they're But I'm 193 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: gonna go ties the opposite direction at running back. These 194 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: are ones he's dinging. 195 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: He's dinging Ezekiel Elliott, which I don't know how you 196 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: can even I. 197 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: Don't know that you can still be the starter. I 198 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: bet they had something between Now he'll get two hundred touches. 199 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: Probably just I'll touch Rico dollars. 200 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: They don't have anybody else. And Josh Shacobs's the other. 201 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned I's traded Damian Pierce. I'm sure that 202 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: the owner that grabbed him off and me thinks he's 203 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: an ended up in Dallas, but he's not. 204 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: Having a brown. Yeah, I have ad it. Wide receiver 205 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton, Marvin Mims, Ladd mcconkee. 206 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: He's being hard on these guys, right, Yeah, he's danking them. 207 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: DJ Shark, Quintin Johnston, Josh Palmer and. 208 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: Those aren't stellar names. Quinton Johnston and Josh Palmer and 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: some of those dudes. I don't know. I don't really 210 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: care who mcconkey's playing. We are in total lockst up there. 211 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: That he's gonna get a ton of targets. 212 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna feast. 213 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he may not end up with fifteen 214 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 3: hundred yards and twelve touchdowns, but he's gonna get targets. 215 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: And a tight end. Mike GASICKI, how can you downgrade 216 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: him anymore? 217 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: In Johnny Smith, those guys aren't eve gonna be on 218 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: the field. I mean they're not necessarily even starter. 219 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: Now, John Smith will be on the field. 220 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: He's a golfing now right, Yeah, I guess he's their 221 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: number one. I mean, either one is not getting drafted 222 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: in my fantasy I'm not here though. If the league 223 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: we're in, I bet neither one of those guys gets drafted. 224 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: We got enough Penn State guys if somebody might might 225 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: get sick. 226 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: Quick question, and this isn't even Steeler, it is Steeler related, 227 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: but do you think Courtland Sutton ends up being a 228 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: Bronco in Riek one? They keep saying we're not trading, 229 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: and we're not trading, but they drafted two receivers. 230 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: They drafted two receivers. He's not working out with them now. 231 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: I just don't see it happening. 232 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either. I think he's a good guy 233 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: to trade. If I were them, if I were on 234 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: Bronco's Nation radar right now, I'd be like, I think 235 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: we should trade Courtland Sutton. 236 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Clay has has projected playoff seeds here. 237 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: Wow, how about that? 238 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: This? According to ESPN. Bet they're saying it's going to 239 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 2: be the Chiefs, Jets, Ravens, Texans, Bengals. Brown's Dolphins. 240 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: Obviously. I mean they left the Steelers off, but I 241 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: don't think any of those are bad names. I don't 242 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: know that i'll pick the Dolphins or Brown. 243 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not picking the Ravens to win the division. 244 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm just not. 245 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: I was just thinking who's gonna end up in the playoffs. 246 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: I'll pick the Ravens to be a playoff team. 247 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: They won't. I won't pick them to be the three seed, though, 248 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: so that was the Seeds. 249 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: I mean, Casey was one that must sold. I'm certain 250 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: I won't pick the Dolphins, although I'm much sure the 251 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 3: AFC is as strong as it used to be. I 252 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: there's three teams in the West are terrible, terrible, terrible. 253 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: The Patriots are terrible. I don't see the Jags as 254 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: a playoff team. He doesn't know the Bills is a 255 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: playoffs I say the Bills. I think. I think the 256 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: Bills over the Dolphins. Still, I think they've gone backwards, 257 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: but I'll still take the Bills over Dolphins. 258 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: In the NFC. He's got the forty nine Ers, Cowboys, Lions, Falcons, Eagles, Bears, Packers. 259 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: Just slight quibble, but I would have the Lions ahead 260 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: of Dallas. 261 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: The Bears are not making the playoffs. 262 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: But who will? I mean, I can't go the Giants 263 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: or Washington they weren't on No, yeah, I'll take the Rams. 264 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: Would I wouldn't put the Vikings over them. So they 265 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 3: had three teams from the North going. Yeah, I think 266 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: the Vikings won't. I don't think the Bears will either. 267 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: Something goofy like the Bucks and Falcons could go because 268 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: they both put ten games and didn't beat anybody and 269 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: they lose in Round one. No. 270 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: Here the teams he's projecting in the top five, did 271 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: draft in the top five next year? 272 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: I'm with you on New England, by the way, I 273 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: think they would be my number one choice. 274 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: Here's what he's got though, Giants, Broncos, Titans, Cardinals, Patriots 275 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: at five. 276 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: No Panthers, No Panthers. Panthers will be my two Patriots 277 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: all the way down at five. Their schedule's hard to 278 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: their divisions, hard new head coach. Yeah, they don't go 279 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,239 Speaker 3: screat points. No Denver I think is in that conversation. 280 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: I think the Raiders are kind of in that conversation. 281 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 3: Did he have Tennessee as one of the five. I 282 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: think you did. Yeah, Yeah, there'll be some team that 283 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: loses their quarterback. 284 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: The Giants, Broncos, Titans, Cardinals, Patriots. 285 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals will be my bet to not 286 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: be one of those teams. Do you trust him though, 287 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: that's a no no. I just think they're building something. Yeah, 288 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: Kyler from week one going, you know, it's better than 289 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. 290 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: Then maybe building the road to. 291 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: Nowhere absolutely leads to me. But yeah, yeah, that's cool. 292 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: Anyways, that was Mike Clay's look at the fantasy projections 293 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: there in terms of what the schedule means for some 294 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: of these teams. We're going to take another break. He 295 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to 296 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, 297 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: we'll look at Cynthia Freeland's oh yeah projections here based 298 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: on her massive amount of computer models that ran here. 299 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: So we'll do that when we return right after this 300 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: on the Drive. 301 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 302 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 303 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation ratio. 304 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Jail Lai. He is the 305 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt taking a look here at what 306 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: Cynthia Freeland put together. She ran one hundred and fifty 307 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: thousand simulations through her computer, running through all two hundred 308 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: and seventy two games. 309 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: On the schedule, times one hundred and fifty thousand. 310 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't I can't count that high. 311 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: So several million, right, But so when you do something 312 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: like that, and I'm sure a lot of people out 313 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: there will understand this, there will be one of those 314 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: years that the Chiefs are zero and sixteen. There'll be 315 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: one of those years where the Steelers is seventeen to 316 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: oh you know, I mean like there will be crazy 317 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: stuff that happens when you do something one hundred and 318 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: fifty thousand times. Now. I have not looked at this, 319 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: but I just know how she always does her win 320 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: totals like it's a big deal if she says you're 321 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: gonna win eight point one games as opposed to eight 322 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: point eight, like eight eight, but no one's going to 323 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: be at three, you know, one's going to be at two. 324 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: Like one tenth of a percentage is bigger for these 325 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: type of things than like the wind total stuff we're 326 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: doing before eight and a half verset nine. You know, right, 327 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: because you run so many simulations. 328 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: It just shrinks it. 329 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 330 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: So looking at the AFC, she has, let's see here, 331 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: Kansas City at ten point nine wins. 332 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: Like that's a lot. Yeah, you know, like these aren't 333 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: over unders. I mean, like, if you said they're over 334 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: under is ten point nine, most people probably go over. 335 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: But to get to ten nine, there was a lot 336 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: of those bad years where my homes gets hurt years 337 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: and those one hundred and fifty thousand simulations. That's a 338 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: big number. Okay. I mean I don't think we have 339 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: to pick like over under, but I'm just curious who 340 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: has more than others. And she obviously factored in opponents. 341 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: She has the Bengals at ten and a half wins. 342 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: I can see them be in the two seed. You 343 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: seem like you're leaning towards them to win the division. Yeah, 344 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: I see that. 345 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: The Texans come in at ten point three wins. 346 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: Okay, interesting that Baltimarre's on in the top three. 347 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Miami comes in at ten point two wins. 348 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: I don't understand the logic there, but okay, they had 349 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: a lot of change. They lost a lot too. 350 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the season they don't have a 351 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: win probability of less than forty seven percent consecutive games 352 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: until after February. But that's when things get tricky. After 353 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: facing the Packers at Lambeau to cap off the holiday schedule, 354 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: then they play the Jets twice in a five week periods, 355 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: also play the Texans on the road, the forty nine 356 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: Ers at home, and the Browns on the road. 357 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: I think it ends rough for them. I mean I 358 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: would be holding on for dear life if I had 359 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: an over under over for them. 360 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: The Ravens also come in at ten point two wins. 361 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I think the Ravens are a lot better team 362 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: than Dolphins. Doesn't mean to win more games. I mean 363 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: they're in different divisions, but I think they're the better team. 364 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: The Bills come in at ten point zero wins, and. 365 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: It's still pretty big for them. Defense should be okay, 366 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: I think the offense is going to take a step back. 367 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 2: Then he has she has the Jets at nine point six. 368 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: Wins, we talk about the ton I mean, there's they 369 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: could be really really good this year, but I would 370 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: be keep my fingers crossed the whole time, you know. 371 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Then it's the Steelers at eight point seven. 372 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I don't know that any of those 373 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: teams we mentioned are far fetched clearly worse than the Steelers. Yeah, 374 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: I like that they're ahead of the Browns. 375 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: The Browns come into eight point six, figured that soon. Okay, 376 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: so just ahead of the Browns. 377 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: But still those are if eight point five is five hundred, 378 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: all these teams that winning as by her calculations, Yeah, 379 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: because nine is you know, she breaks it down to 380 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: another percentage point. 381 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: Right, you know, Jacksonville comes into the eight point four. 382 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 3: Wins, Like, I think there's a gap between the Browns 383 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: and the Jags, but they also playing that schedule. Yeah, yeah, 384 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: I guess that lowers the gap. Yeah, lessons a gap. 385 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: The Chargers are at eight point two wins. 386 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: Does she's still sort of on board with them. I 387 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: love the quarterback. 388 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: That's like the only good thing I can say. I guess. 389 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. 390 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I get that Hardball is a nice coach. 391 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: I just don't know it's going to I think next 392 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: year I want to bet on the Chargers. Yeah, when 393 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: you get to all his guys. 394 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: Their hardest four game stretch is in mid November when 395 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: they play the Bengals Ravens at Falcons at Chiefs. 396 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: That seems like going four. 397 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, then you get the Colts at seven 398 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: point nine wins. 399 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: I fa only the Colts and Chargers are close. 400 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: I don't think so either. 401 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: I probably probably we'll pick the Colts to come in 402 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: second in their division. I think they're better than Jacksonville too. 403 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, more complete. 404 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: More complete, right, Richardson is a total old card. 405 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: But any other Raiders at six point four? 406 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: Like to me, now we're talking about the bad AFC teams. Yeah, 407 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: I don't think the Colts are bad. Chargers might be. 408 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: Raiders are at six point four. Okay, the Titans are 409 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: at six point two. 410 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite between those two? Not really, 411 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: I mean neither. 412 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: The Broncos are at five point seven. 413 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: They'd be below everyone mentioned so far in the Patriots. 414 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: Patriots are at five point three. 415 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's five wins more. I 416 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: think about the Patriots looking at the. 417 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: Well, where's their thing here? 418 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: For the NFC it is? 419 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So looking at the NFC. 420 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: I assume the Niners are one. 421 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: San Francisco eleven point two wins. 422 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: That's big, noticeably more than Big City, right, yeah, big number? 423 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Then you have. 424 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: I don't see anyone challenging them in that division. 425 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: Philadelphia had eleven point one. 426 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: I would have thought it was Detroit. But you get 427 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: the Giants twice, you get Washington twice, You split with 428 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: Dallas pretty darn close to eleven point one. 429 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: Detroit's ten point six. 430 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: That's still a whole half game difference. That's a lot. 431 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: Then you drop off to Atlanta at nine point nine. 432 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I stumble leaned more and more from my earlier 433 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: conversation and under on Atlanta. 434 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: Green Bay at nine point eight? 435 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: Are you favorite? Are you shocked Atlanta's favored in Week one? 436 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. You know that. 437 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: I guess that's how the world works. That's subject to change. 438 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: I would guess so, yeah, Green Ban at nine point eight. 439 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: Better team than Atlanta, tougher schedule. 440 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: The Rams at nine point two. 441 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 3: Who's a better team, green Bay? The Rams? I think 442 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: I'd go to green Bay probably. Yeah. 443 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: Then you're looking at Dallas at nine point one, very low. 444 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: A lot of us gonna depend on their ow line. 445 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're banking on some rookies, and if 446 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: those guys can be adequate while the two guards are great, 447 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 3: they'll be fine. But I feel like they're a weapon 448 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: away running back away. Even if the line is good. 449 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: Seattle's at eight point eight. 450 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: By the way, their run defense was horrible often. Yeah, 451 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if Seattle's in that neighborhood. 452 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: Oh, listening to stretch for Dallas here in their schedule 453 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: early October into mid November at Pittsburgh on Sunday night 454 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: football at home against Detroit. Then they have their buy, 455 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: then they're at San Francisco, at Atlanta, then they get Philadelphia, 456 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: then they get Houston. 457 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: At least there's a by mixed in a couple of 458 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: them at home. But man, that's under five hundred that stretch. Yeah. 459 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 2: Wow, Seattle is at eight point eight wins. 460 00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 3: I don't think they're that good. No, what's gino? It's okay. 461 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: Then you're looking at Chicago at eight point five wins. 462 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: You put the Bears over Seattle. Non't think I would. 463 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 464 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: No, I'm not super impressive. I'm kind of eager to 465 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: bet the under on both those teams. 466 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: Tampa comes in at seven point eight. 467 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 3: They're basically running it back. Yeah, there's not a lot 468 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: of difference there. They give a lot of money to 469 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: Baker and Evans and Winfield. 470 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: And good luck that. Yeah, the Saints come in at 471 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: seven point four. 472 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: It's always where they're about at anymore, and you'd think 473 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: they're close to a contender, though now I don't. 474 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: Think so either. Then Minnesota is at seven point two. 475 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 3: Saints or Vikes. I think I'd rather be in charge 476 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: of the Vikes. The organization is a lot better place, 477 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: and I might like their I think I like their 478 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: coaching staff better. 479 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm with you. The Commanders are at 480 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: seven point. 481 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: Two, Oh, I don't see that. I think they'll get better, 482 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: but I don't know they're going to get approach five hundred. 483 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you get the Cardinals at six point seven. 484 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: Who's better the Cardinals or the Commanders. I think it's 485 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: Arizona today. Like I think Kyler's better than those quarterbacks. 486 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: The Arizona's got a better O line, weapons aren't far 487 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 3: off McBride and Harrison versus McLaurin and those guys. 488 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: I just think they're doing a total makeover and washing. Yeah, 489 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: and that takes. 490 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: Some time, agreed, But I think the Cardinals are like 491 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: a year past that. They're a year further along. 492 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I think they both stink. 493 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: I think they're very bad, right, you know we're Yeah, 494 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: they both are picking in the top ten. 495 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: The Giants are at five point four wins. 496 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: They might be better than those two teams could be. 497 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: Caroline is at five that last, yeah that is last. 498 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I could see that too. 499 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: So everybody's between five or four point eight whatever it was, 500 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: and what was the eleven point six wins? That's how 501 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: it happen, bridges out. 502 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And there'll be some with more, there'll 503 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: be some with less. But when you do all these simulations, 504 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: it gets bunched more and more than you know, Aaron 505 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: shots you always say that with his football side or stuff. 506 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: It's like, I know, these all look really bunched, and 507 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 3: they all look close to the middle, But look at 508 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: it through a different lens. That a half game difference 509 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: on these eight verse eight point five is really significan. 510 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: When you've run one hundred and fifty thousand simulations, that's 511 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: a monster number. 512 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: Yeah maybe that's I know anything about math, But is 513 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: that too many? You know what I mean? Like, couldn't 514 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: get it done with ten thousand. 515 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: Why it's one hundred and fifty thousand? I don't why 516 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: they picked you. 517 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: Do one hundred and fifty million, right, I don't. 518 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Just let it run a nose until the beginning of 519 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: the season and let me know what it says. 520 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: Until your articles do just let it run and hits stop. 521 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean that's above my pay grade. 522 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: But she has the Steelers in the. 523 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 3: Mix very much, so, you know, in a very difficult conference. 524 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: I mean, the teams ahead of them are formidable. I 525 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: have my doubts of out Miami. You know, there was 526 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: another team above him. I was like, Eh, maybe, maybe not, 527 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: but I think they're noticeably better than Indie Jags. I'd 528 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: lean towards the Browns being in that mix two, but 529 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. And then there's some bad teams. 530 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is, you can be better, and I 531 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: think they are a better team this year, but they 532 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: might all win ten games. 533 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: Like that very possible too, Yeah, yeah, Like I'll take 534 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: what the team is on paper today over three and 535 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: sixty five days ago. Yeah, but I'm less confident they'll 536 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: win as many games as it stands right now. But 537 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: week the week will change it. 538 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt about that. And I know people 539 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: are like, well, the standard has become mediocrity. Mediocrity is 540 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: going eight to nine. Mediocrity is seven and nine. If 541 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: you make the playoffs, you're not mediocre. 542 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: And state isn't easy to do. No, I mean it 543 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: really isn't. I don't know. I think people look too 544 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: much into that. What's the standard here? No one's happy 545 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: if they. 546 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: Well, nobody's happy about not winning the super Bowl every year. 547 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: Nobody left left Buffalo happy last year. No, you know 548 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, well. 549 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: We Cleansedtod good. 550 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: Try guys due again next year and lose the first round. No, 551 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: he's happy about that. No, you know the team's losing 552 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: the playoffs. Yeah, that was good, Buffalo Ta. 553 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 554 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. Those were Cynthia Freeland's win projections. A 555 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: friend of the show since he is, comes on with 556 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: us every year at the NFL Combine. We're gonna be 557 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 2: We're gonna be back after this to finish up the show. 558 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: Don't you go anywhere? 559 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 560 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black 561 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation radio. 562 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the 563 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. I don't know if you saw 564 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: this or not, but post is out reporting that Nause 565 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: Harris has dropped the seven pounds since the end of 566 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: the season last year. He's clean, He's completely cut everything 567 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: that might cause him to gain weight out of his diet. 568 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: Wow. 569 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know where he would lose seven pounds from. 570 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 3: So I'm sure you remember. But like one year ago 571 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: when we were broadcasting right next to the running back 572 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: drills on the south side, I looked at his body 573 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: and thought, wow, you know, like his lower half was 574 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 3: thicker than I remembered, stronger, didn't have any fat on 575 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: him then, and it was very physically imposing ten feet 576 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: away from him, you know. So I don't know where 577 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 3: he could have trimmed things. I do chuckle when I 578 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: always questioned, because I didn't see exactly those details. I 579 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: just was at what used to be Rhodo World, and 580 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: I saw the plurb Nause's in the best shape of 581 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: his life, like I hate, best shape of their life. 582 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: In April, May and June, you know, Jerome Bettets is 583 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: the best shape. Let me eat that every year, and 584 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: I chuckled it myself. I don't know. I mean, I'm 585 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: sure he has nutritionists that know a bazillion times more 586 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: than all of us. I just don't think he needs 587 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 3: to change his body. 588 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: I mean I think he's trying to get more explosive. 589 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: I would imagine, Yeah, A lot of times. It worries 590 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: me though, if running back game ten pounds, lost ten pounds, like, 591 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: did you need to Maybe he does. I mean, if 592 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: he's more explosive, that's great. 593 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: Even losing nausea, Harris losing seven pounds would still be 594 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: about two hundred and thirty two hundred and thirty five pounds. 595 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: He still be a brutal, He's still a big back, 596 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: He's still a bit regardless. And I would say the 597 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: biggest weakness of him physically is explosion. I mean, if 598 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: you could get start stop a little bit better, or 599 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: you know, put your foot in the ground and really 600 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: get up field a little bit better. 601 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: That being said, he was among the best in the 602 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: league last season at twenty yard runs like it's close 603 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: runsplosive runs. 604 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 3: They were both in the top of the league, you know, 605 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: and also makes me wonder too, are they going to 606 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: run more to zone where he's got to get there 607 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: a little quicker, you're a little smoother to the outside 608 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: and then footing the ground and go. You know, maybe 609 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: they told him that's something we would like to see 610 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: from here. I don't know. I mean there's it's not 611 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: by accident, I know that much, right, Yeah, Curiztory. It 612 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: looks like now though, I mean the way he looks 613 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: a year ago is like, oh man. 614 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: He is a big, big dude. 615 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: His thighs and I mean torso is you know, he's 616 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: not compact at all either, and crazy long arms and 617 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: big hands and he's impressive in person. 618 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks he's a T. J. Watt version of 619 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: running backs. 620 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's body beautiful already. Yeah, So it 621 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: looks right now. 622 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: I guess you know, when you look at it, I 623 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: guess he could be Uh, you can always can be 624 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: better to your yeah, right right. If you're not getting better, 625 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: you're getting worse, right, you know. And he may just 626 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: be looking at this as, hey, this is something I 627 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: want to get a little bit lighter. I can remember, 628 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: you know, Le'Veon bell dropping weight over the course of 629 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 2: his career. 630 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: It always worked out for him. 631 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know he was he was too or 632 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: forty plus pounds when he was at Michigan State. Then 633 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: he comes to Pittsburgh and that his rookie year, and 634 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: they had him get down to you know, get down 635 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: around two thirty two thirty five somewhere in that range, 636 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: became quicker noticeably, and then you know, continue to lose 637 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: weight till you know, hes you know, he's running at 638 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty pounds. 639 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: His last couple of years was that light which and 640 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: he was a big body guy. Yeah yeah, different body 641 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: type obviously, well not super market Yeah. 642 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they both they're both about a six 643 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: foot one. 644 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, little on the tall side, a little 645 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: bit upright, but could get their pads low and all that. 646 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: And the other thing about Nausee considering his situation is 647 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: if because he lost seven pounds, he gains explosiveness, but 648 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: his body is less equipped to handle twenty five carries 649 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 3: over the course of the year, we'll give him the warrant. 650 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: I mean, like, who cares? You know, right, I know 651 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: that the ability to wear it down defense and handle 652 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: a big load is one of your best attributes. But 653 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 3: we don't always need it, you know, what I mean. 654 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: And there's gonna be times where let's get warned in 655 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: there and give you a breather and be more explosive. Okay, 656 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: I don't I wouldn't look too much into it. It's fine, 657 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 3: you know. 658 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, you know, we'll see. It's all. Last 659 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: year Lamar Jackson comes to camp, I gained it. I've 660 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: gained extra weight this year, so I want to be 661 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: able to take the physical beating. Now he comes back 662 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: this year, I've lost the weight again because I wasn't 663 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: as fast as I. 664 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: Wanted to be on the MVP. Yeah, I mean, and 665 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: the logic then was we're not going to run our 666 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: quarterback as much. We just invested in and we want 667 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: him more to be in the pocket. And he had 668 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: a great year from the Pocket. But I wonder if 669 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: he was just like. 670 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: Did he have a great year from the Pocket? It 671 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: was it was okay, I mean, it. 672 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: Was a great year for the Pocket. I mean, I 673 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: don't know. 674 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 2: I'm just saying his numbers weren't as good as they 675 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: were his the year that he won the first time 676 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: he won. 677 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: The But I wonder if his mind it was like, 678 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: I'm so used to being this level of explosive and 679 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: I'm carrying five pounds. I might use to and I 680 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: used to get to that corner a little better and 681 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: I can't. 682 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 683 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: I bet that's why I dropped it again. Like, yeah, 684 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 3: I had a good year and I learned some things 685 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: and the system was better for me. I mean his 686 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: numbers aren't as good as what he did on the field, though, Yeah. 687 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at I mean, three for thirty six 688 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: hundred yards with twenty four touchdowns of seven interceptions. He 689 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: was actually better in twenty twenty than that. I'm sure 690 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: he had twenty six touchdowns and nine interceptions. And year no, 691 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: that was the year after the MVP nineteen was his MVP. 692 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: He had thirty six touchdowns and six interceptions. Wow, Like 693 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: that's what people were complaining about last year with Lamar, Like, oh, 694 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: he won the MVP awhere he had twenty four touchdown pass. 695 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: I know his numbers were not typical MVP numbers, right. 696 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: I thought he was the best player on the best 697 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: team and has taken his game up from the pocket. 698 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: I don't think they were his best team. 699 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: I did in the regular season. When the season ended, 700 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: I thought they were the best team in the league 701 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: and they beat and they still thought Mahomes was the 702 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: probably the favorite to win the Super Bowl. But I 703 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: thought they had the best regular season of any team. 704 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: I'll take my Holmes to win the MVP every year, 705 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: like who's. 706 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: Better, Oh, no doubt. But even the better argument is 707 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: I'll bet on Mahomes win the super Bowl. You can 708 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: have the MVP too, there's that too. They can dunk 709 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: down the field and then I'll win the super Bowl. Yeah, 710 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: it's the most special player I've ever seen. 711 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty amazing. But yeah, I mean, 712 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 2: so you know, he loses the weight, then he gains 713 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: the weight, then he gets you know, yeah, loses what 714 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: he's gained from last year. Does that open him up 715 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: back again to injuries? Who knows? 716 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: Who knows? 717 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: You know, because that was one of the reasons why 718 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: I put the weight on. 719 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: He'd sure he's getting advice from inside the building and 720 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 3: outside the building. I mean, all these guys in Augie 721 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: Lamar whoever aren't doing it just as a whim. But 722 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, you could either one could 723 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: get hurt any second, hayeh. 724 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: And just remember, folks, I've had this this let's say, 725 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: it's a discussion called an argument with plenty of people 726 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: over the years on social media or on my message 727 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: boards and things of that nature. Well, so and so 728 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: is only listed at two hundred and eighty seven pounds, 729 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: and how's he getting Steve McLennon, perfect example, Steve mc 730 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: clennon early in his career, when he first joined the Steelers, 731 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: was listed at I think two hundred and eighty pounds. 732 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: They move him the nose tackles say, Steve mclenn is 733 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: our nose. Well, he's too small, that's the first thing 734 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: I got. Of course, I'm like, you haven't seen him 735 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: in person, right, he's not who looks like he's not 736 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty pounds anymore? Right, But that's what 737 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: he's listed at. They don't change those weights. 738 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: Probably was his combine weight. 739 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: It was probably his combined wag. 740 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: Weight to run. Yeah, And he's grown up since then 741 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: and didn't think he was a nose then and now 742 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: he knows. And now I'm three twenty. Right. It's funny 743 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 3: when I go back and look at combine numbers, height, 744 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: ceiling one like, arm length and hands are the ones 745 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 746 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't trust them we don't believe the weights. 747 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they change their numbers to get on there. Then 748 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: it gets in the program. His rookie year and no 749 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 3: one ever changed. 750 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: James Ferry was listed at like two hundred and thirty 751 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: two pounds or something like that. I know for a fact. 752 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 2: He told me he played his last season like two 753 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen pounds. 754 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder if he ever played a snap who 755 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: thirty something? 756 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: Probably not after he joined the steel Like, he just 757 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: wanted to keep getting loose, to keep his weight down 758 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: so he can stay quicker to make plays need to. 759 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 3: Make and my hunches. When he came out of Virginia 760 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: and was a super high pick, he wanted to go 761 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 3: the Combine way in two thirty plus. Yeah, because two 762 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty pound linebackers weren't going to top ten 763 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: back then, right, It's like linebackers weren't. 764 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: You know bob Bi labriol and is asked and answer 765 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: was asked, can this would the Steelers consider moving Logan 766 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: Lee outside linebacker? He seems a little light to be 767 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: a defensive end in this system. He was he waited 768 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: at like two eighty five or something like that at 769 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 2: the Combine because he wanted to run fast. I bet 770 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: he played it to ninety five in Iowa. 771 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, he took a time off. I would say, I 772 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: bet he's too ninety five when we see him in lectric. 773 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's six ' five. 774 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 3: To and the goal was going to be bigger. Yeah. 775 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 3: I mean I bet a year from now he's probably 776 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 3: Brett Kesel played it to eighty five. Yeah. Do you 777 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 3: have any idea what Smith played at Aaron Smith was 778 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 3: he came out in the two sixties, though. 779 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: He was probably I don't ever remember Aaron Smith being 780 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 2: the two sixties. 781 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 3: I think his combine was I can find that out. Yeah. 782 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: I think when they drafted him late he was like 783 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to say, like to sixty five. I 784 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: assume we could still fine. Did he even get invited 785 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 3: to the combine? 786 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 2: He did a combine some way. He was two hundred 787 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 2: and seventy nine pounds. 788 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 3: It is, was he really? Yeah? It was wrong about that. 789 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 3: I remember him being more of an ed I couldn't. 790 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: Here's why I say that, because I don't ever remember 791 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: them drafting I mean, you saw him after a defensive 792 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: a guy that they wanted to put a defensive end 793 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: who weigh two hundred and sixty pounds. They wouldn't have 794 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 2: done that, Like, you're not gonna go, We're not gonna 795 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: ask you put all forty pounds. 796 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And their parameters were much stricter than than now. Yeah. 797 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 3: I mean they woulted to be six or four. 798 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: You'd be big enough to ride the ride, and you'd. 799 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 3: Have long arms. Yeah, and not a fat guy. Right. Yeah, 800 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 3: so now that makes more sense. 801 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 2: Anyways, Matt, that's gonna do it for the show today. 802 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 3: All right, everyone, have a great weekend. 803 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday and Wednesday. No show on 804 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: Friday next week, but uh yeah, we appreciate everybody listening 805 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: today for my partner Matt Williamson for CJ. Wolfy here 806 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air. 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