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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. It's a lovely Friday, awesome out

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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, it's ready to hit the weekend. Here.

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Speaker 2: We are now less than a week from the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: By this time next week, seven days from now, we

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Speaker 2: will know who the Steelers first round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Assuming there is one. Yeah, but the first round will

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Speaker 3: be in the books.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to assume that there is a first round

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Speaker 2: draft pick. I would think, so, I don't see them

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Speaker 2: trading out of the first round. Well, I mean they've

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Speaker 2: never done that.

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Speaker 3: I hear you out here till I can blow your

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Speaker 3: doors off, the Brownies, the Giants, whatever, But no, I mean.

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Speaker 2: I've just never done it. They just take the player

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Speaker 2: that they want and are happy with it. I know,

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Speaker 2: we trade down a lot, we don't often trade out

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Speaker 2: of the first round because.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, I mean again, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: players I like in this draft, and I like where

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Speaker 3: they're sitting. I would love to move down you'd have

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Speaker 3: to blow my doors off to go far. But you

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Speaker 3: know it will be nice though a week from now

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Speaker 3: have players on teams. Yeah, and then and know who's left,

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Speaker 3: you know, talking.

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Speaker 2: About this stuff again, much of the focus remains on nationally. Steelers,

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Speaker 2: got to go get a quarterback, not to get a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: got to get a quarterback. Heading into this draft, you've

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Speaker 2: got the Giants, the Browns, the Steelers, the Titans are

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Speaker 2: going to take it a quarter Yeah, we know what's

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Speaker 2: happening there. The Saints could certainly take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Rams could take a quarterback. So is that six teams?

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Speaker 2: I'd say the Jets. The Jets are also.

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Speaker 3: A fields is really a one year deal.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders could take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably about it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Hawks could take a quarterback. Darnold's basically a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: I hesitated to bring him up because they disinvested in them.

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Speaker 3: But if that goes wrong, then you would chuck sitting

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Speaker 3: there or whatever. It wouldn't be such a bad thing.

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Speaker 3: And they got five picks in the first two days.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that the Dolphins aren't going to

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Speaker 2: take a quarterback. Early. They could take Gabriel in the fifth,

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Speaker 2: but they need to take a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They do, they do, They have so many other needs

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Speaker 3: to to I mean they're in bad shape. It might

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Speaker 2: You know, that's what nine or ten Okay, well there's

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Speaker 2: nine or ten quarterbacks in this draft that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean to your point I assume is

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Speaker 3: there will be several stages throughout the draft where there's

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Speaker 3: an acceptable quarterback to take at that pick, most likely.

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Speaker 2: Where that that's where the value aligns.

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Speaker 3: If they pass on quarterback in round one, which I

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Speaker 3: believe I believe they will. Yeah, I do think five

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not a done deal. But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean there's that top group and then you're looking at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and really all the other guys are other than

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Speaker 2: Ward are going to be backups this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't expect any of these guys outside of Ward

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Speaker 3: The Browns, like, give me pause. I think it'd be

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Speaker 3: I don't know, beating out Flacco and pick It would

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Speaker 2: I don't see them taking Sanders though.

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Speaker 3: I think the Hunter and then try to trade back up.

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Speaker 3: You know, if Dart goes to the Saints or something

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Speaker 2: I think, well, I think Sanders needs to sit.

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Speaker 2: I think, like I'm saying from day one, I don't

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but I can't say it for day one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to agree. I mean, you brought in

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Speaker 3: Pickett and Flacco for a reason. Certainly Wilson and Winston

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even if the Steelers drafted one, Oh, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you can be the number two, right,

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Speaker 2: So that's where we're kind of at. You know, but

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Speaker 2: I look, I look at the Dolphins. I mean they

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Speaker 2: They just signed the cornerback Ramsey Ramsey to a new

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Speaker 3: I've heard things they might have to cut him.

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Speaker 2: They just signed Tyreek Hill to a new deal last year. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 3: I think they pushed their chips in to win now,

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Speaker 3: and you often lose that battle, and they're losing it

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Speaker 3: big now. And now they're quarterback's expensive and their franchise

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Speaker 2: They paid for those guys, right, but they did it

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Speaker 2: at the wrong like things didn't match up well for them. No,

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Speaker 2: they didn't marry their salary cap to what.

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Speaker 3: The roster actually was, right, right. I think that they

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Speaker 3: it's great in the first two months of the season

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of speed and how many

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Speaker 3: I just I think as an interesting build and that

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Speaker 2: A team that next year at this time, we're talking

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Absolutely, I think that's quite possible. I look

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, like your Stars and Scrubs thing, bosas

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Speaker 3: a year older, Ramsey's gone, Tyreek's out, you know, all

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Speaker 3: and Kittle's getting old, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 3: your quarterbacks aren't elevators and they're expensive. Yeah, that's I mean,

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Speaker 3: I assume Party's gonna a contract.

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Speaker 2: Phok and Nakua came out today. Yeah, I said and

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Speaker 2: said something about if the forty nine ers pay Rock

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Speaker 3: I mean then they're a lot like the Steelers to

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Speaker 3: me in terms of their offseason, where they lost way

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Speaker 3: more than they gave it up kind of on purpose though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they have a ton of compics coming their

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Speaker 2: That's the problem.

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Speaker 3: They don't haven't draft very well. Yeah, if you look

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Speaker 3: back their last five drafts or so kickers in the

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Speaker 3: and let's be honest, they got Purty was a complete

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Speaker 2: Drafted. They traded up the draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean Solomon Thomas with like the third pick

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Speaker 2: Those are big multiple picks to.

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Speaker 3: Go get Lance, right, and they happened to luck into

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Speaker 3: party and he's keeping them above water. I think Shanahan's

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Speaker 3: a really good coach. I think he's a great offensive mind.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a good head coach. That's

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Speaker 3: what I was gonna say is I think the shocks people.

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Speaker 3: He's been a head coach eight years for the for

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Speaker 3: the Niners. Four of them they've won double digit games

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Speaker 3: and have gone to playoffs and Super Bowls, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: The other four they've lost double digit games. Right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing roller coaster, there's nothing in between. It's never

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Speaker 2: Was there even just ten wins? Ten wins? Ten wins?

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Speaker 3: And I mean they got Boso because they were the

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Speaker 3: the Niners have had so many good cons. They've they've

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Speaker 3: worked the compic game extremely well. Well.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it's been higher as coaches part of it,

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Speaker 2: which has worked great for them, But they're not hitting

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Speaker 3: They need more third rounders that are cheap, you know, starters, poonies,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't see the Steelers taking a quarterback

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I continue to say, I think it's going to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think one of the tackles. The tackles

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think those guys would all have to be gone,

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Speaker 3: We're dark those three with the three we always talk about.

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Speaker 3: If they're sitting there, I think you take the d

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Speaker 3: tackle and go from there. I don't love the quarterback

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Speaker 2: No, I don't either, And that's you know, I get

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Speaker 2: it again. We've said consistently, I'm not doing this counting

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Speaker 2: on next year's quarterback class being better than this one.

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Speaker 2: I don't love this one, right, that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: It's growing on me. But I always worry is a

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Speaker 3: grown on me because I need one. Said the other

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Speaker 3: day if we were in Buffalo would be like this

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Speaker 3: quarterback class. Thanks, I don't care about it, you know?

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Speaker 3: little long. It's looking better and better as the night

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Speaker 3: goes on, Like tell the mistakes are made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you knows how mistakes are made. And and I.

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Speaker 3: Don't even care what is projected for next year's quarterba

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Speaker 2: If some of these teams that quote unquote have their

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Speaker 2: A year from me now, I mean, make that move

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Speaker 3: Right right right exactly, you know, like that wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they should do that toam.

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Speaker 3: No, that generation, that generations is gone. The Wentzes and

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Speaker 2: They've already been you know, you know in that chase

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Wilson might get replaced on draft day, or

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Speaker 2: You know. So, I mean those teams aren't going to

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Speaker 3: No, and the bad teams will want to trade. I'll

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Speaker 2: Is cam Ward gonna turn the Titans around to take

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. And I don't know the Steelers

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Speaker 2: The Patriots. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, they've got their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean that's just where we're at with

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Speaker 3: I've thought all along. Next year is the best timing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's a lot of options. It's pot to

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 2: Reid on ESPN put together a kind of a dueling

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Speaker 2: Miller name of the prospect who would best fill every

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Speaker 3: Okay, so safety, But there's the best one on the

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Speaker 3: board of the fiftieth best player, and they can't pick.

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Speaker 2: The same player. So you're going to get two options

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, all right, so they both are looking at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So for the Tennessee Titans, Miller is picking cam

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Speaker 3: Well, you said they're not allowed to pick the same guy.

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Speaker 2: Can't pick the same guy, and it has to be

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Speaker 3: Fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Uh. At two Cleveland, Miller has Shadoor Sanders.

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Speaker 3: I think that's their biggest need.

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Speaker 2: That's their biggest need.

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Speaker 2: At three, Miller has the Giants taking Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 3: Oh. So you can't take that, you can't twice, all right,

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Speaker 3: So he's going quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, Yeah, because those are

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't. Reid says the best value there would

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Speaker 3: The beginning of this kind of gets a little screw

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Speaker 2: They actually can take the same player. I misunderstood that

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Speaker 2: is what. Okay, Well that makes sense because the Patriots,

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Speaker 3: I get it. I think Membo is a clearly better prospect,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you take the left tackle prospect. Somebody asked me

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Speaker 3: I'm not at all implying that Simmons should be the

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Speaker 3: he will inevitably be, which is wonderful, right, yeah, you

438
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 3: take that, especially in this draft. I don't want to

439
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 3: be picking four and five in this draft anyway.

440
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 2: At five, Miller has the position that fills the biggest

441
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 2: need for the Jaguars, being Abdull Carter.

442
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 3: I disagree with that heavily. They have two edge guys

443
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: that are pretty good and unless you don't count Walker

444
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 3: as an edge and he's more of a.

445
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: Saying he could play off ball linebacker. And I'm draft

446
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: one of the other two guys. Maybe you don't pick

447
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 2: up Yeah, maybe you don't.

448
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 3: That makes me crazy with Carter and Walker a little

449
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 3: bit like, Okay, they can do it, but I'm not

450
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 3: using a top ten pick on them to play off

451
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 3: the ball lineback. No.

452
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Speaker 2: Reed's pick is Mason Graham, the defensive tackle from Michigan Tuckey.

453
00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 2: At six, Miller's pick for the Raiders is Travis Hunter. Now,

454
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 2: remember he had all the quarterbacks going early.

455
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,719
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean their corner and receiver situation needs work. Right.

456
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with this Travis Travis Hunter stuff. I

457
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 2: was thinking about this as over driving home last night.

458
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: You only have so many hours a week because of

459
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: the CBA as a team in which you can have

460
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Speaker 2: your players in the building.

461
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 3: Okay, with coaches, I mean they can do their own

462
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 3: work at home, right.

463
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: That's different. Ok So, here's the problem that I have

464
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 2: with Travis Hunter playing both both ways on a full

465
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: time basis. My offensive and defensive meetings are at the

466
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: same time, at the same time. You've only got so

467
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Speaker 2: many hours on a Wednesday.

468
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Speaker 3: They were at Colorado till you went to the defensive one.

469
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So if he's going to be an offensive player,

470
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: he's going to be He can't. This isn't This isn't Colorado.

471
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: He's not going to get away with running sloppy routes

472
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: or just being faster than everybody. He won't out athlete

473
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 2: every He's not gonna out athlete. He'll still be one

474
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: of the best athletes on the field, but he's not

475
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: gonna out athletes. So he ends up in Cleveland. He's

476
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: not gonna out athlete. Chase Higgins Pickens Mexican Joey Porter

477
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: Junior lined up opposite him. Joey's gonna like all his

478
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: arms and legs going everywhere.

479
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Speaker 3: Like Ward or you know, I mean, just the guy's

480
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: in the division Higgins. You know, right, there's gonna be

481
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: a lot of.

482
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Speaker 2: Dudes, and so I I don't know that he can play.

483
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: I think he can.

484
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: People talk about, well, there's more plays running college football,

485
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: There's there's more downtime, Okay, there are, But you're not

486
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Speaker 2: lining up against a professional, a guy who this is

487
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Speaker 2: what he does for a living. Yeah, not some guy

488
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Speaker 2: who three years from now is going to be working

489
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Speaker 2: at you.

490
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Speaker 3: Know, especially at Jackson State. I mean he can go

491
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Speaker 3: seventy five percent and be the best player in the

492
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Speaker 3: field there.

493
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Speaker 2: But even at Colorado, based on who they were playing against,

494
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Speaker 2: how many how many true NFL future NFL cornerbacks did

495
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: he see at wide receiver? How many future wide receivers

496
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: NFL wide receivers did he see a cornerback where he

497
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 2: could just go again? Seventy five percent? And I got

498
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: this guy covered, then I can save my energy. Right,

499
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: you're not playing, he's not playing George Pickens and DK

500
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 2: Metcalf every week.

501
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: Right with weather and late in the year, you got

502
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: twelve games under your belt.

503
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Speaker 2: You didn't see anybody in college. It looks like DK

504
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: Metcalf No.

505
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Speaker 3: I mean he had a hard time against Allen mumenroor yeah,

506
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: the stand market right about his worst day in that regard,

507
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how it will work. I would still

508
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 3: take him at two and if I were the Brown

509
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 3: I'd get it. He's a great prospect, no question, no question.

510
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Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I know you're not questioning him as

511
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 3: a prospect. I just don't know what his twenty four

512
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: hour day is in week twelve.

513
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: And do I have to change as a team How

514
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: where how my meetings are run and when when they're

515
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: scheduled based on him?

516
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Speaker 3: For one guy right or one guy? I bet you won't.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean team meetings are like you said, offense meets

518
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: when defense meets.

519
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to bring my own offense in to

520
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: meet at eight o'clock in the morning when defense will

521
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: be here at ten, so Travis can make the meeting

522
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: right and my offensive guys, we're gonna be going what second.

523
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: Ones in the weight room while you're meeting or blah

524
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: blah blah.

525
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: That doesn't work out like that, Like it sounds.

526
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,239
Speaker 3: Like most teams see him more of a corner and

527
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: then wide receiver, which I understand, but the Browns, the

528
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 3: Browns need a wide receiver more. I need a corner.

529
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Speaker 3: You know, I would be in the offensive room if

530
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Speaker 3: I'm a Brown.

531
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Speaker 2: And again I think in last year's draft he might

532
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Speaker 2: He's probably the number one cornerback taken. Yeah, but he's

533
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: the number six wide receiver taken.

534
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I think he fights at

535
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: Douneesa for three, don't. I think Brian Thomas was a

536
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: better Thomas. It was a better problem. They're both bigger, stronger,

537
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 3: faster type guys. Again, I don't even know. I think

538
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 3: he's fast. The tape shows he's fast, but he's not

539
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: as big as those guys. No, No, he's a different style.

540
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: He's an Odell type or something like. He's not as

541
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Speaker 3: big those guys.

542
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Speaker 2: And you know, so, I think he's a much better

543
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: cornerback prospect than he is a wide receiver prospect.

544
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: I don't. I think he's equally awesome at both. But

545
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: I don't know that he could be equally awesome in

546
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: the league if he has to split time.

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how that was, by the way.

548
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, one of his injuries in college

549
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: was and I understand it was kind of a cheap shot,

550
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 2: but he had a lacerated spleen or whatever it was.

551
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: It was an organ of some sort of kid be

552
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Speaker 3: a spleen or something.

553
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: Right, the guys in the NFL hit pretty hard. Yeah,

554
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: just throwing that out there.

555
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Speaker 3: Also, you've made the point too is and if he

556
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: gets injured, you lose two starters. Yeah, you know what

557
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: I mean.

558
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: That hurts.

559
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: It's brutal, and he's out there more than anybody else.

560
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: I just don't know that he's going to get away

561
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: with saying, well, if I don't get to play both ways,

562
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: I'm not going to play. I have a hard time.

563
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: But I don't believe that part he's gonna play. What

564
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 3: else is he gonna do? Right? Yeah? Real quick though,

565
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: but if you which I don't think will be the case,

566
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: because he'll be a Brown if he was a corner,

567
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: if he majored in corner, you could work after with

568
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: the quarter back. And you know, yeah, I run four

569
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: routes and I'm still useful.

570
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: Fifteen to twenty snaps of game exactly, not on a

571
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Speaker 2: full time right, every third long you're out there, or

572
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: we're down by six in the last drive, you're out there.

573
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: You know, even that makes it tough because you got

574
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: to know the hand signals. You get into the adjustments

575
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: in a loud stadium, and yeah, yeah, because if you

576
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: make a wrong we're oute there and the quarterback throws

577
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: an interception. Right, quarterback's gonna be next time you have

578
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: a meeting with him after practice, he's going to be.

579
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: Put Jerry Judy back out there. Somebody knows what they're doing, right.

580
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: Reid has the Raiders taking Ashton Genty. Okay, for the Jets,

581
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: both guys pick arm On Membo.

582
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: It really sounds like Membo and Warren are the two

583
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: to consider. I would definitely take Membo.

584
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. At eight, Miller has the Panthers taking Jaylen Walker,

585
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: the linebacker from Georgia.

586
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: We had a long talk today on We're doing We're

587
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: just doing our defensive line ranks on a different podcast,

588
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: and Walker worries me. I mean, if you're a four

589
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: to three team, he doesn't worry me. For the Steelers,

590
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: he could be a stand up yeah two point. You know,

591
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: if you're a four to three team, play in the

592
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: Ravens and he's your down end, good luck with that.

593
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean he's there's nobody doing that. Now.

594
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you play him on the edge or you

595
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 2: play him at off ball linebacker, but you have him

596
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: as overhanging and he can rush the passer from there.

597
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: But right, I mean this goes back to my Carter

598
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: Walker thing about well he can play off the ball linebacker. Well,

599
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: if you need an off ball linebacker, takes s Wessenger

600
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: take an off ball linebacker. I mean, I'm I'm investing

601
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: these guys to rush the passer.

602
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: Reid has them taking Tedoro McMillan, which seems that Carolina

603
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: Carolina wide receiver from Arizona.

604
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: Literally.

605
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: At nine, Miller has the Saints taking Tyler Shuck quarterback

606
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: from Louisville.

607
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: Biggest knee knee quarterbacks are gone. Yeah.

608
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Reid has some taking Alm Walker, the edge rusher

609
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: linebacker out of Georgia.

610
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: I meant they need everything.

611
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: At ten, Miller has the Bears taking Ashton Genty, running

612
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: back from Boise State.

613
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: I think that's the latest he could go. Yeah, I agree.

614
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: Reid has them taking the best value pick would be

615
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren tight end from Penn State.

616
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: I'd be fine with it.

617
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: At eleven, Miller has the forty nine ers taking the

618
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: pick that fills their biggest need, Will Johnson cornerback Michigan.

619
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Speaker 3: It's not hard to find needs on that team either.

620
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: Elon Joy then o line joy thin.

621
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Speaker 2: Reed's best value is Mikel Williams, the EDG rusher out

622
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: of Georgia.

623
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Speaker 3: We were doing ed rusher today and he was I

624
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: had him ahead of Walker just because I mean, for

625
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: a generic system.

626
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: I have walked the listed is my number one off

627
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: ball linebacker. Okay, rushing a passer, but I'd rather see him.

628
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: If he's going to do it, do it. Blitzing twelve,

629
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Speaker 2: Miller has the pick that fills the biggest need for

630
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, being Matthew Golden, wide receiver from Texas. Reid

631
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: has to pick the same for the same value, best value.

632
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: I do wonder, and I think they'll have the choice.

633
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: Would they pick Golden or McMillan. I don't know.

634
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either. Miami. At thirteen, Miller has

635
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: to pick that fills the biggest need being Calvin Banks,

636
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: junior offensive tackle from Texas.

637
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I very much agree.

638
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: Reid has the best value being his teammate at Texas,

639
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: Johnny Barron, cornerback.

640
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: And they there's a lot of directions that you go.

641
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: We just out of that conversation.

642
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: For Indianapolis, Miller has the pick that fills the biggest

643
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: need as being Colston Loveland. I don't agree with that.

644
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: I don't either.

645
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: They're not great at tight end, but they don't they're

646
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 2: heavy like the heaviest running team make. I mean, if

647
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna only if you're only going to complete forty

648
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: eight percent of your passes, regardless of who you're throwing

649
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: to it, adding a tight end to the equation doesn't

650
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: the passketchers too. They've got pass catchers, yeah, downs and

651
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: those guys too. And your biggest your biggest need is

652
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: to get your quarterback to throw the ball accurately.

653
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and even just signing Daniel Jones implies

654
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of quarterback running too.

655
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah right. I think they have a need on their

656
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: offensive line. I think they could a little bit of

657
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: everything on defense wouldn't hurt. They could use some they

658
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: could use a cornerback, they could use a I don't

659
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: think they're on the spot to take a tight end

660
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: in the first round. That's kind of a luxury pick.

661
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: From where I do, I agree. I agree Reid has

662
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: the same pick Colson Love fifteen Atlanta. Miller has the

663
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: pick that pills the biggest need being ed Rusher. Obviously,

664
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: edge rusher Mike Green Yeah. Uh, Reid has the pick

665
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: that has the best value there being g Hud Campbell,

666
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: the linebacker out of Alabama.

667
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they're all front seven. Is not great?

668
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: Really the Colts to me, they should take you, Hud Candles.

669
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Speaker 3: I say campb will be great.

670
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: Camp will be great. There Yeah there linebackers. May they

671
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: make a thousand tackles, they do every year, but their

672
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: eight yards downfield? Right since Leonard sixteen Arizona. The pick

673
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: that fills the biggest need, the biggested Mason Graham, defensive

674
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: tackle from Michigan. No way, he'll be there, no right.

675
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: The pick that fills the best value is Mike greene

676
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: edge russer for Marshall. That's why the Cardinals are a

677
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: team that you have to watch. Yeah, they're kind of

678
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: a wild card. They could take they could take one

679
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: of those defensive tackles.

680
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: They could. They absolutely could. The Niners could too, they could,

681
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: I mean might yeah. Yeah, someone out there is gonna

682
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: love Nolan. Yeah with that, yeah, maybe it is Arizona.

683
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: At seventeen the Bengals for Miller. The pick that fills

684
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: the biggest need is cornerback Johnny Barron.

685
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I probably would go edge, Michael Williams, whatever, but

686
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: their corners are bad.

687
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: The corners are bad. Baron can play the slot for you.

688
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: Hilton's gone, He's gone. He can play inside, he can

689
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: play outside.

690
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be useful.

691
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: Reeds picked it for the best value. Derek Harmon, defensive

692
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: tackle from Oregon.

693
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: I get it, I think, which is a bigger need

694
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: than too, And there's so many.

695
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean, even if Hendrickson's back, he's still for how long?

696
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: You only have one? Yeah, and he's got one year

697
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: left on his deal? Is he going to be there?

698
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: And he's not young too, I mean, if he was

699
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: happy as could be in under contract, he's not. I

700
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: don't know. Miles Murphy and those guys need to step up.

701
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they've they've tried and they've tried. But at eighteen,

702
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: Miller's picked that fills the biggest need. Is Tyler Booker,

703
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: the guard from Alabama to what team is eighteen Seattle.

704
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Yes, he doesn't really fit the system that well, but

705
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: the position fits.

706
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Reed's pick is Kelvin Banks Junior, the offensive tackle

707
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: from Texas. Maybe he's a guard to Yeah, at nineteen,

708
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: Miller's picked that fills the biggest need is Jihad Campbell,

709
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: the linebacker out of Alabama with the team again Tampa Bay.

710
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: Yes on.

711
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Reed's pick that gets the best value is Will Johnson,

712
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: the cornerback from Michigan.

713
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: I could see him sliding a little. I don't get

714
00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: that far.

715
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: I could see him say, I don't see him getting

716
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: to twenty one. Let's put it that.

717
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: Way, right, Like I could see since he jumping on him.

718
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. At twenty Miller's pick for the Broncos that

719
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: fills the biggest need is Amary and Hampton.

720
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: I agree, their running backs are pretty rough.

721
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 2: Reachs pick that has the best value is Mari and Hampton.

722
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Okay, sometimes they collide and those are one of these

723
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: chalky picks where you see it all the time.

724
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: At twenty one, Miller's pick that fills the biggest need.

725
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: I disagree with this Jaylen Milroe Mann show. Yeah, so

726
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: he's just aready slotting the quarterbacks in there. That is

727
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: not the biggest need on the Steelers roster. It just isn't.

728
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: Isn't. The tackle is a gaping hole.

729
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: Right, if you picked a running back there, I would

730
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: have less right.

731
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, like I mean, as the roster's

732
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: constructed on this day, it's pretty light a quarterback.

733
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't happen right right now. They're short

734
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: one starting defensive lineman right right. I don't care how

735
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: you parse it. They are short. They released Larry Ogan

736
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: Jobie and they haven't replaced him. They all apologies Isaiah

737
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: louder Milk, and you know some of the other guys

738
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: they saw those aren't capable replacements.

739
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: No, and your best guy is very old.

740
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: And your best guy is going to be thirty six

741
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: in May.

742
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty clear to me.

743
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to replace that. That is your biggest need.

744
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, now you can live with You could

745
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: not draft a quarterback this year and I would understand.

746
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, zero reads picked it gets the best

747
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: value is should or Sanders they both have them. Taking

748
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: a quarterback. I'm sorry. Not happening, folks, Not happening. I mean,

749
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: if it happens, I would understand it. Sure, I don't

750
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 2: think it's happening again.

751
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: If you love a quarterback, I understand it, no matter

752
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 3: what your needs are, no matter what. But I don't

753
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: think that's how it's going to go.

754
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: If you love something you said it, free, free Free.

755
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: Twenty two the Chargers, Miller's pick is Tyler Warren, the

756
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: tight end from Penn State.

757
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: Doubt he lasts that long, but they oftener it's Loveland.

758
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: He's making the pick that fills the biggest need. Yeah yeah,

759
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: Reads pick that gets the best value is a Mecca

760
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: Igbuka wide receiver from Ohio State. Okay, he would be

761
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: a little redundant for them.

762
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. At two pass catchers is pretty clear though.

763
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: At twenty three for the Packers, Miller's pick that fills

764
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: the biggest need is Trey Amos, the cornerback from Ole.

765
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: Miss, especially if Charlie Alexander's on the move, which I

766
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: don't know he'll play for the Packers this year.

767
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: Reads pick that has the best value is Trey Amos.

768
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so that seemed a little early for me.

769
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: For Amos, but all the top corners, he's so many issues.

770
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: He's more clean than the that's the thing, and I

771
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: know what I'm buying. He's a good player and he's clean. Yeah,

772
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: all right. At twenty four, Miller's pick that fills the

773
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: biggest need for the Minnesota Vikings is Maxwell Harriston the

774
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: cornerback out of Kentucky.

775
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: Agreed corners pretty rough right now.

776
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: Reeds picked that gets the best value is Walter Nolan,

777
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: defensive tackle from Ole Miss m Okay.

778
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 3: I mean Nolan should go in that neighborhood if not sooner.

779
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: At twenty five for Houston, Miller's pick that fills the

780
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: biggest need is Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from Ohio.

781
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: State, and they could wait on him while he recovers.

782
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Reed's picked that gets the best value is Gray Zabel,

783
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: the interior offensive lineman from North Dakota State. They just

784
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: need offensive line. Yeah.

785
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: I bet they draft two in the top four rounds

786
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: or so.

787
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty six for the Rams, Miller's picked that

788
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: fills the biggest need is cornerback Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame.

789
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: I guess the corner is getting getting recycle three. That's right.

790
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: Nol royan Schuck are going in the first round. Yeah. Yeah,

791
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 2: for the biggest need, reeds pick that gets the best

792
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: value is Maxwell Hairston, cornerback out of Kentucky.

793
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: So they agree on corner.

794
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. For the Ravens, Miller's picked that fills the biggest need.

795
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: For the Ravens is TEDAROA. McMillan, the wide receiver out

796
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 2: of Arizona. I don't know if they'd go receiver high.

797
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: I think it their biggest need to me remains on

798
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: their offensive line.

799
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: I think the guards are pretty bad.

800
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: I think the guards are bad. Reeds picked it gets

801
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: the best value as Mantlekai Starks the safety from Georgia.

802
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, Detroit's pick for Miller is Shamar Stewart

803
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: edge rusher out of Texas, A and M fine.

804
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't love them, but going edge there is pretty common.

805
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: Reads. Picked that gets the best value is Tyler Booker,

806
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: guard from Alabama.

807
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty likely. They're a big power line

808
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: and they lost Zeitler and keep a strength with strength.

809
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Commanders at twenty nine, Miller's picked that fills.

810
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: The biggest Booker gets past the Ravens.

811
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: No, I don't know if he does either. Miller's pick

812
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: that fills the biggest need is Treyvon Henderson running back

813
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 2: out of Ohio State.

814
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: What team again, I Paul Washington. I suppose they're not

815
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: short on needs either though.

816
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Reed's pick that gets the best value is Shamar

817
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: Stewart edge rusher from Texas A and M.

818
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, their edge guys aren't great.

819
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: At thirty for the Bills, Miller's pick that fills the

820
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: biggest need is Chevon Revel Junior, the cornerback out of

821
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: East Carolina.

822
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: I don't like a corner room outside of Benford at all.

823
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 2: Reid's pick is also Chevon Revel. Interesting.

824
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

825
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: At thirty one, Miller's pick that fills the biggest need

826
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: is Mikel Williams, the edge rusher out of Georgia. Couldn't

827
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: believe he was still on the boarder.

828
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's long gone. But that's fine.

829
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: Well, you had all these stabs taking quarterbacks and running

830
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: backs ahead of this. Reed's pick that gets the best

831
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: value is Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle from Michigan.

832
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 3: I could see that too.

833
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 2: For the Eagles, Miller's pick that fills the biggest need

834
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: is Nick Muori, safety out of South Carolina.

835
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: Your safeties are pretty nondescript.

836
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: That is also Reid's pick. Hm filling the best or

837
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: getting the best value Nick Emuary.

838
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: I know they've kind of changed their tune and investing

839
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: in linebackers and running backs, but I don't know that

840
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 3: they're going to take a safety in the first round.

841
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's big safety.

842
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: He's a big safety. I bet it's d line.

843
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: Anyways, that was an interesting little uh back and forth there.

844
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: I don't see six quarterbacks or five where now I

845
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 2: was going in the first round.

846
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: No, but the teams have needs. I get it. But

847
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean there was corners with bad hips and bad

848
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: knees and stuff too. Going in the first round. You

849
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: know that will not be the way that the No. No,

850
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: but it's an interesting way of looking at it, just just.

851
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Speaker 2: A different way. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt Jaylen Walker and mikeel Williams. Yesterday

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Speaker 2: had a private workouts and did some stuff. I guess

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Speaker 2: Walker not only did some drills as a pass rusher,

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Speaker 2: but also did some drills as an off the ball

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Speaker 2: linebacker and apparently looked well moving moving around.

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Speaker 3: I don't doubt it. I mean, he does move really well.

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Speaker 3: He's supposedly a super high character leader, tough guy, all

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Speaker 3: that stuff, and I made light of it. You know

866
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: that if you're in draft, the guy high one of

867
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Speaker 3: them rush in the passer. But I don't know physically

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Speaker 3: that he can play on the line of scrimmage every snap.

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Speaker 3: That would be yeah, and dickle Boe would love him.

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Speaker 3: I think he dropped them into coverage.

871
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: I think he'd be great as an off ball linebacker

872
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: in a three four defense like the Kendrell Bell Chad Brown.

873
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

874
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: I think, okay, everyone, you're just gonna rush the path.

875
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna blitch you ten times a game.

876
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: I think he's more I don't. I think that would

877
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: be a great role for.

878
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: Him because his speed, I mean he can run.

879
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: Oh, he can run. Yeah, and his explosiveness is like

880
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: he's a three four outside linebacker.

881
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: You know, school will drop into flats and Brown did

882
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: both Timmins did both know that type of player.

883
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 3: I think that's what he is.

884
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: I just think the problem for him is going to

885
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: be if he has to line up out there on

886
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: a regular basis, it's gonna be in trouble if Carolina

887
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: takes him a nine and just says, you're every down

888
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: left end.

889
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm running at them all all day long. Right,

890
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: He's in deal with tackles and tight ends.

891
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: And you know that's one thing. And I get this

892
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: question a lot from from fans, especially after coming off

893
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: of the rushing game, that the Steelers a lot in

894
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Isn't the three four outdated? Don't the Steelers

895
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: need to get bigger at defensive end? I'm like their end, like, no,

896
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: they're playing a five man from when they're in their

897
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: three four defense. They're in a five man.

898
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: Five to two. It bothers me to no end that

899
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: people call it three four, it's a five.

900
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: It's a five to two. Those two outside linebackers, Mikel

901
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Williams doesn't look all that different from t J. Watt. No,

902
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: but he could play four to three defensive end.

903
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: Right. He's heavier, yeahah long, he's.

904
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: Too beat six five, two hundred and sixty pounds, that's

905
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 2: what he is. He's not that different from Alex high Smith.

906
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: They're all two hundred and fifty plus right right, right.

907
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: They make it sound like the Steelers are playing with

908
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 3: two hundred thirty five pound guys.

909
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: No, they're not.

910
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: They're not. They're strong, dude.

911
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: That was that was an argument when Greg Lloyd was playing. Yeah,

912
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 2: outside linebacker, two hundred and twenty five pounds.

913
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 3: Frankly, that worries me a little bit about her Big.

914
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: He's a little light for that.

915
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a little light for that.

916
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: Him and Alex Heismith. I don't know.

917
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 2: They don't look alike. They don't look he doesn't look

918
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: like t J.

919
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 3: Watt.

920
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: No, he's a two hundred and thirty five pound edg rusher.

921
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: He's a speedball off the edge.

922
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: He's really good at it. But I mean a game

923
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: or two being the starter. Sure, Yeah, I don't know ansistently, right,

924
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: right right.

925
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: And that's that's the other when people talk about trading, well,

926
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: you trade t J. Watt, you've got Nick Krbig waiting.

927
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, TJ. Wat's one of the best runs run defense,

928
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: the best edge guys in the.

929
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: League, even including the two hundred eighty pound defensive.

930
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, you're going to be going to a guy.

931
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: And this is no knock on Nick Kerbig.

932
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 3: It's not how he's built that's not what he's built

933
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: to do.

934
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: He's built to rush the passer.

935
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: Right, And I think that's part of the reason you

936
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: make the Green Bay trade for the big, heavy base

937
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: end type guy for the home stretch. Didn't pay a

938
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: lot of dividends, but that was the logic behind it. Yeah,

939
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: you know.

940
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you know, like.

941
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: In a vacuum, I like Williams more than Walker, but

942
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: Walker's more explosive and Williams it was more productive, more productive.

943
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: Williams also played with an ankle. I don't know how

944
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: much of that. That's why I like a workout played

945
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: with two ankles. One was working so well. But that's

946
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: why you do this now, you know, like maybe his

947
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: workouts are a lot better because he's actually right right, right,

948
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: he's more of the prototype.

949
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this idea that that you know, they're the

950
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: most four to three defenses. The defensive ends are two

951
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two and sixty two hundred and seventy

952
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 2: pounds at most. They're not all that different from TJ.

953
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: Watt and Alex Highsmith, right right.

954
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: I think the bottom line is what you laid out

955
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: there is I think people don't realize how big Watt

956
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: and Heismith are or had an LB next to her

957
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: name right right, or walk past him in the halls

958
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: at the facility, like, oh, he's well put together, thick dude,

959
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: he's not thin at all. You know, her Big doesn't

960
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: look like those guys.

961
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: He doesn't. He just he just doesn't. Not that again.

962
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: I loved him in the draft coming out. He was

963
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: my favorite pass rusher to watch him the draft because

964
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: he's like the Tasmanian devil.

965
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 3: He does right.

966
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: But to ask him to go out there for seventeen

967
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: games and consistently take on offensive tackles so much.

968
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: Obviously, James Harrison is a different beast because of his

969
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: low center, graphic thickness, et cetera. You said Lloyd was

970
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: like two twenty five ish. Everybody was a little smaller

971
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 3: than a little smaller than that.

972
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: But there was always talk about moving him off the ball, Like,

973
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: I think her Big can be a starter in the

974
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: league two and I think he would start for a

975
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: lot of teams in the league.

976
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: But he might still want to rotate him a little bit.

977
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: He might rotate a little bit and he might be,

978
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, a four to three outside linebacker that because

979
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: he can drop and he can.

980
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: Well that's the reason. See what was going as they did. Yeah,

981
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: a lot of people thought.

982
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: He's a tweener.

983
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what he is, right right, right, Yeah,

984
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: Well he's.

985
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: A tweener that rushes the passer really well. Right, there

986
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: are guys who play that role in the NFL and

987
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: do it really well.

988
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: And frankly that might be Walker, but I might use

989
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: on top ten pick on that, right, but who else

990
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: are you gonna.

991
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: Tell you if you looked at it. Probably if you

992
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 2: looked at Jalen Walker and Nick Herbig next to each other,

993
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: they'd be pretty close. I mean they're pretty close in.

994
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: Size, right, Neither one's like whoa look at that.

995
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both six to one. They're both you know,

996
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: I bet Herbig's probably two thirty eight, two forty Walker's

997
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: two forty three.

998
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, neither one is crazy long arms or monster hands

999
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: or anything crazy like that.

1000
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: But they do have speed.

1001
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: They speed, and they have technique. Yeah, therap, you're on right.

1002
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: So anyways, I just thought that was interesting. They had

1003
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: a little private workout yesterday for scouts, just trying to

1004
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: solidify themselves. It's a really good edge rushing draft.

1005
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: It is it was hard building. We're doing that today.

1006
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: Just who's your top five? Generically? It really comes down

1007
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: a team and scheme. Yeah, you know who you'd really

1008
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: want to pick. Absolutely.

1009
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: We're also doing a thing for Steelers dot Com next

1010
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: week is going to come out our top ten offensive

1011
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: and defensive players. That's an interesting little dynamic with I

1012
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: did the offense. I sent you guys the offense last thing.

1013
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, I got different way looking at Yeah, I

1014
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: got to nine and I'm like, there's four or five

1015
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: guys here that I could put in these nine and

1016
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: ten spots. It just depends on what you're looking for.

1017
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: Did you take Hunter? You're gonna put a Hunter on

1018
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: both or neither, or one or the other.

1019
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: If I put them on offense or not. I think

1020
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: I did, but I'm not in love with it.

1021
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's interesting. Yeah, it is different to

1022
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: do a top ten all offense. Center versus Matthew Golden, Right,

1023
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: aren't the same.

1024
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: No, this offensive tackle versus that running back.

1025
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hampton versus Campbell or whatever. It doesn't mean where

1026
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 3: they're going to go. Campbell's gonna go earlier, right, But

1027
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: who's the better prospect?

1028
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: I think if I remember correctly, genty is my number

1029
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: one offensive.

1030
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: I think I would to thinking I think he's pretty

1031
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: easily my one.

1032
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyways, let's get through a break. That's going

1033
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: to do it for our number one of the drive

1034
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt Now, I'll be

1035
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: back with our number two right after this