WEBVTT - Barron Trump is an Oddity

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone to this edition of Amy and TJ. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being with us. I feel like these days

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<v Speaker 1>there is something everyone can agree on. We are in

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<v Speaker 1>a tough we are in an unforgiving political climate. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fear, finger pointing and fear mongering going

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<v Speaker 1>on on both sides, and there's a lot of misinformation

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<v Speaker 1>circulating these days. It's confusing sometimes to know what you

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<v Speaker 1>read and to know if it's true or not. People

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<v Speaker 1>are losing their jobs and positions, and you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not just talking about federal employees. That certainly has made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of headlines and high level officials. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a story here in New York that caught our attention.

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<v Speaker 1>A college student at New York University NYU was pushed

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<v Speaker 1>to resign her position after she gave a few quotes

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<v Speaker 1>to Vanity Fair magazine in an article about her fellow student.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have heard of him, Baron Trump. That student

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<v Speaker 1>is cut Walker. She was the New York University chapter

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<v Speaker 1>president of the College Republicans. But shortly after that Vanity

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<v Speaker 1>Fair article was published on February twelfth, Kaya was asked

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<v Speaker 1>to resign her position by the College Republicans. While also

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the same breath inviting Baron Trump to

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<v Speaker 1>become a member. Kaya is now joining us to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what happened the aftermath, how she's doing now, and

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<v Speaker 1>what she actually said that was so terrible. Kya, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being with us, Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing a lot better than I was maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>time last week. So I'm hanging in here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, how was it at this time last week? Described

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<v Speaker 3>for me? You said it's better now? How bad was it?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So this all happened. I'm in London right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So it happened like in the wee hours of Monday

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<v Speaker 2>morning for me, Sunday night for you guys, and a

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<v Speaker 2>call I got calls on the phone about this interview

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<v Speaker 2>I had done. That was, you know, circulating online, and

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<v Speaker 2>I spent the entire night awake on the phone, just

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<v Speaker 2>talking to people trying to see what was going on,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I have this distance between me and

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on on campus in New York, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just I was seeing comments online coming in and

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was kind of freaking out, so I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get I hadn't gotten much sleep, I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>eating and I was just very worried.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, worried, what though, Well, what did you see that

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<v Speaker 3>you thought, Oh, you started getting calls and all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>But what was your understanding of what the problem was

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<v Speaker 3>and what you had done?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Well for you know the way that I've you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of interpreted it, It's it's a semantic issue really,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I had given this interview to Vanity Fair, and

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<v Speaker 2>part of the quote that was used in that article

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<v Speaker 2>was made a headline by another publication, the Independent, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was picked up by other publications around and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was spread on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that, you know, the word for what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me is cide of Genesis.

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<v Speaker 4>So this quote that I took, I said.

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<v Speaker 2>That the quote was, you know, Baron Trump is an

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<v Speaker 2>audity on campus, something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 4>He goes to school, he goes home.

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<v Speaker 2>That that was the quote, and it was made a

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<v Speaker 2>headlined to make it seem that, like like I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying that there was something wrong with him being a commuter.

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<v Speaker 2>So so that's essentially what happened. That's what people were

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<v Speaker 2>really upset about.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, you put the word oddity in the same

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<v Speaker 5>sentence as Baron Trump and even though you meant it

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<v Speaker 5>that it's unusual that he isn't staying on campus.

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<v Speaker 1>It people inferred that you were just saying he was odd.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your understanding, Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even that, like, I wasn't even saying that

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<v Speaker 2>he like that was odd that he didn't stay on campus.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like the phenomenon of having the president's on

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<v Speaker 2>your campus. It's something very it's you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>new experience. It's it's a rarity. I'd say that's the

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<v Speaker 2>word that I could have used, but people took issue

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<v Speaker 2>with the word oddity, and that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Why I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>Cay, you give us a better idea if you have

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<v Speaker 3>some specifics that you remember what kind of things were

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<v Speaker 3>coming at you from people that might've even surprised you.

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<v Speaker 3>One word oddity and one little quote turned into something,

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<v Speaker 3>at least as far as I read, some pretty nasty

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<v Speaker 3>stuff coming your way. Can you give us some examples

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<v Speaker 3>and an idea of the stuff people were saying to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people, people's reaction online was yeah, I know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was terrible. I was reading all these comments on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where it really blew up. People were making

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<v Speaker 2>speculations about I don't know my race. People were people were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, saying that I needed to be punished, stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and and you know, just saying that I

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<v Speaker 2>was like a terrible person.

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<v Speaker 4>A bunch of misogynistic stuff as well that I read.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But these are just strangers on the internet that obviously

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<v Speaker 2>didn't read the original article that was I would say

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty fine. I was actually really happy with

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<v Speaker 2>the original article, like I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was, it was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say anything wrong, and I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>said anything wrong. Still, I was making a completely agnostic statement.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't positive, It wasn't negative. It was more of

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<v Speaker 2>an observation of how things are like on campus. With

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<v Speaker 2>the president's son in attendance that said.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaya, wow, you are twenty one, twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm twenty one, yet you're twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>One years old. Have you ever experienced you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>all hear about getting canceled online social media comments going crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can read about it and say, oh, that

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<v Speaker 1>must be a terrible experience, but to actually have lived

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<v Speaker 1>through it at the age of twenty one, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>how that felt. What it was like for you, and

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<v Speaker 1>probably even for your parents and your family and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who loves you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so, I mean, I didn't really expect this.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, it was a very innocuous sort of statement,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've given the same interview multiple times where I

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<v Speaker 2>said the same thing essentially. So I was just surprised, really,

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<v Speaker 2>and reading things online it made me very scared, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, But more than anything, I was worried about

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<v Speaker 2>my family because they would have to, you know, read this.

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<v Speaker 2>My mother very concerned, very very Yeah, she was very

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<v Speaker 2>upset about this, and that sort of made me. She

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<v Speaker 2>had been getting calls about this, people had been sending

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<v Speaker 2>it to her. I didn't really want to speak to

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<v Speaker 2>it about to speak speak about this to anyone, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was very I was trying to keep to myself

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<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, stay focused on school over.

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<v Speaker 4>Here in London.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to talk about it, but people kept

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<v Speaker 2>sending it to me, sending it to my family, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I became more angry more than anything, because I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought that this was so ridiculous and I just I

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't believe what was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>It's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Your chapter of the College Republicans actually put out a statement.

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<v Speaker 3>I was surprised in reading the line that they said

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<v Speaker 3>that what you said was unfairly framed, and upon review,

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<v Speaker 3>we still found it inappropriate. I guess you read those statement,

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean to you? Why would they take

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<v Speaker 3>that approach? They actually said, yeah, it was taken out

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<v Speaker 3>of context, but it was still inappropriate. I don't can't

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<v Speaker 3>make sense of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that press release was from the College Problems

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<v Speaker 2>of America, which is technically like our parent, our national organization,

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<v Speaker 2>So my chapter didn't have anything to do with, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>me resigning at all. So essentially, what was happening, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I was up all night last Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 2>What was happening was I was getting calls from them.

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<v Speaker 2>They were very upset. They had been asking me to

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<v Speaker 2>recruit Baron for months and I told him that that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a realistic sort of sort of thing, and after

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<v Speaker 2>this came out, they were very angry that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it essentially sounded like I was calling the president's son

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<v Speaker 2>weird after they had been trying to recruit him into

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<v Speaker 2>my chapter for however long that he's he's he's been

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<v Speaker 2>on campus.

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<v Speaker 3>So wait, Kanya, Do I have it right for a

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<v Speaker 3>second there? Do you this played into it? They're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to recruit their prize and they think you heard it

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<v Speaker 3>in some way exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think it was a prospect personally, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think going to happen. And I told them, I

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<v Speaker 2>told them that I was very honest with him about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and they in that in that same press release, they

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<v Speaker 2>made a statement welcoming him. Welcoming him in people have

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<v Speaker 2>been talking about him replacing me as president, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just not something that's going to happen. That's not realistic,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not reflective of reality.

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<v Speaker 4>But I feel like me, this whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Controversy surrounding you know this, that one word that I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of seen as an opportunity to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of get me out and replace me.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I didn't get this, but this was this is

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<v Speaker 3>this is politics playing out on the college campuses. To

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<v Speaker 3>your point, what you're saying there about the College Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>of America president, he said in the statement, we are

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<v Speaker 3>extending an invitation to join our organization to the president's

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<v Speaker 3>and quote, he represents the future of the conservative movement,

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<v Speaker 3>and we will be honored to have him join College

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans of America. Are you were you just chop liver?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you just kind of you just kind of got

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<v Speaker 3>dismissed and ditched on the way to their ultimate goal?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what happened to you?

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<v Speaker 2>That's certainly what it feels like. And I'd say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's an accurate statement. So they did acknowledge that I

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<v Speaker 2>was taken out of context by the Independent first, but

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<v Speaker 2>then they said it was inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was kind of given the option before I resigned.

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<v Speaker 2>I was either given the option of not resigning, getting

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<v Speaker 2>decharted and getting put under the thrown under the bus,

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<v Speaker 2>or resigning. They they released a statement about how I

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<v Speaker 2>was taken out of context, but they still did end

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<v Speaker 2>up throwing the end of the bus. They said it

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<v Speaker 2>was inappropriate when it was an innocuous statement, very agnostic,

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<v Speaker 2>very very normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaya. The other thing that they said that the National

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter said in regards to what happened, they said that,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than redirecting the inquiry to our communications team or

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<v Speaker 1>refuting the premise, she used language that did not align

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<v Speaker 1>with our standards of professionalism and responsibility, inadvertently contributing to

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<v Speaker 1>a misleading and negative portrayal, are you not. Has it

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<v Speaker 1>ever been told to you before that you cannot speak

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of your chapter, that you aren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>give interviews.

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<v Speaker 4>No, And that's the funny thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I actually sent the article to their press secretary

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<v Speaker 2>after it came out, and she was very happy about

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<v Speaker 2>it because I had given this exact interview multiple times.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always fielded questions, but that's what people are interested

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<v Speaker 2>in nowadays. They just asked me questions about Baron, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been answering, I've never been seen him on campus.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never obviously, I've never met him, but people ask

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<v Speaker 2>me questions. You don't even have to be the president

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<v Speaker 2>of the College Republicans on campus to be asked about Baron.

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<v Speaker 2>You can just say I go to NYU, people ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen him? Have you like, what's it like

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<v Speaker 2>having him on campus? And like you could be at

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<v Speaker 2>the dinner table with your grandmother, She'll ask you this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of questions, kind of like the experience of being

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<v Speaker 2>a student at NYU nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>So, guy, it's funny. My daughter, I've asked her and

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<v Speaker 1>she was telling me that when she sees Secret Service

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<v Speaker 1>or when she you know, so, yes, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>topic of interest. Probably one of the main reasons is

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<v Speaker 1>we have not heard from Baron. Baron hasn't isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>public figure, He doesn't have public social media accounts. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people I don't even know that I know what his

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<v Speaker 1>voice sounds like. So because and we've talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>so many times, when you don't hear from someone directly,

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<v Speaker 1>people fill in the voids or are begging other people

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<v Speaker 1>to do the same. So I'm curious, do you regret

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<v Speaker 1>resigning now everything that you know what's happened. If you

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<v Speaker 1>had to go back to that night when they called

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<v Speaker 1>you and they said what they said, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>wish you would have done?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Yeah, for sure, I wish I would have waited

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<v Speaker 2>it out because I was just very scared. Like I've

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<v Speaker 2>never I'm yeah, I'm I'm a young lady. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>gone through anything like this before in my life. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of saw this whole endeavor of being involved with

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<v Speaker 2>the College Republicans as something I did for fun, to

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<v Speaker 2>make friends and you know, kind of make my give

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<v Speaker 2>us the presence on campus. And I was very happy

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<v Speaker 2>doing that the past four years. But yeah, it just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't expect any of this to happen, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dealing with it even now. It's just it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a fever dream to me, honestly, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe this is happening. It's the most instant thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's happened to me in my life. And I'm just gonna, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had not resigned. I've been I've built

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<v Speaker 2>up my chapter so much. I've been putting a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of my time and energy into into what I've been

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<v Speaker 2>building on campus, and I was very I'm very proud

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Still. I love all those kids that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my members, they love me too, Like they they wish

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to resign.

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<v Speaker 4>They were telling me not to.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I was getting that advice a lot, like don't resign.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like I said, I was giving that choice

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<v Speaker 2>between yeah, being thrown under the bus entirely or being

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<v Speaker 2>thrown to the bus partially. So it was a very

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<v Speaker 2>hard choice and I was like very sleep deprived, and

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I was just I made that statement just

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<v Speaker 2>so I could get a break, because I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>a barrage of all this attention. I really didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Want it cal you mentioned you kind of joined the

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<v Speaker 3>College Republicans. You thought it was a good networking opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>for you. But I assume you only joined the College

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans because you in some way politically align with Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you that officially on the record here,

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<v Speaker 3>since everybody went to come at you and say you

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<v Speaker 3>were some anti Trump in some way, But would you

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<v Speaker 3>consider yourself a Republican the conservative and have been a

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<v Speaker 3>Trump support?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I also I knocked on doors for him. So, like

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in for the most part, in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City, as you can imagine, Like I to New

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<v Speaker 2>York City public schools and I was the only person

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<v Speaker 2>in my school who who thought this way, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would I would have discussions with my friends, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were friendly discussions most of the time. But I've always

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<v Speaker 2>had to, you know, to to defend what I believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went into college and I and I looked

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<v Speaker 2>for people who thought like me because I'd never met them, like,

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<v Speaker 2>not even my parents at home. My parents are both Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>so so you know, I was kind of looking for

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<v Speaker 2>my community, and I wanted to make friends, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>how I got involved I'm certainly a Republican.

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<v Speaker 3>Parents made any jokes or anything as Democrats like, see, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Told you not to be messed with Republicans.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I've gone that so much. My mother told me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my mother told me I should reconsider who I

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<v Speaker 2>who I associate with. And honest I do think she's

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<v Speaker 2>She's right, Like, there are some people who are cowards

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<v Speaker 2>out there, who who I think don't reflect well on

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<v Speaker 2>our party. And and they're just they're they're opportunistic, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're careless, like they don't really care about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>chapter or you know, with a good work I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>with these kids. I've been getting compliments like the past

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<v Speaker 2>year before this happened about how I was running my

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<v Speaker 2>chapter and how I was doing such a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>And to see them turn on me very quickly was

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<v Speaker 2>something that was so disappointing. And yeah, I'll never forget it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a hard lesson to learn at your age,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a good lesson that will serve you well.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of us have learned it a lot later in life.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious you said when you read the article

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<v Speaker 1>that Vanity Fair put out you were happy with it,

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<v Speaker 1>you were proud of it. So I'm curious where your

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<v Speaker 1>frustration lies. It's not with vanity fair, is it, or

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<v Speaker 1>in that sense, the mainstream media. Is it more that

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<v Speaker 1>certain people caved to social media pressure? Where do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the pressure came from? And this knee jerk reaction

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<v Speaker 1>of asking you to resign? Do you place fault in

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<v Speaker 1>anyone corner, in anyone's corner? Who who is to blame

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<v Speaker 1>for all of this? In your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>In your opinion, that's a that's a hard question, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I mean, it's easy to blame myself, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>because I did the interview in the first place. But

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't think there's anything wrong with what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll stand on that like I'll die on that hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not gonna apologize for what I said either.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what I said was was very it was very

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<v Speaker 2>it was very normal. It's something that anybody could say

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<v Speaker 2>if you went to NYU. It's an observation. This whole

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<v Speaker 2>situation I feel was made worse by you know, forcing

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<v Speaker 2>me to resign. I feel like this could have been

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more like it could have I had to

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<v Speaker 2>resign for appearances.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, That's that's the way I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've like, I've been told, you know, not to

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<v Speaker 2>give any statements, to to shut up essentially. I've I've

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<v Speaker 2>been told not to give any statements anywhere by by

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<v Speaker 2>people in high places, and I'm I'm obviously not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to clarify what I said and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of explain the circumstances of my current predicament. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like this was, yeah, this was seemed like an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to you know, gain some political clout for some people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to name names, but I just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish that we I wish that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>people that I would have otherwise, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>expected to come to my defense. And you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one thing to you know, like point out that

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<v Speaker 2>I had been taken out of context, but and to

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<v Speaker 2>say that I'd been taken out of context, that it

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<v Speaker 2>was more delicious and to actually you know, defend my

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<v Speaker 2>right to say that, especially after I've said it so

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<v Speaker 2>many times that this is what it's like on campus.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wish that people had you know, stood up

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, just yeah, stood on business and and been.

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<v Speaker 4>There for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had plenty of people there for me who've you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shown me how much they you know, checked in on

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<v Speaker 2>me this past week, showed me how much they loved me,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's been getting me through. But I'm just very

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<v Speaker 2>disappointed with certain people, yeah who who who claim to

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<v Speaker 2>care about this organization. I've been very disappointed in them

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<v Speaker 2>and their inability to actually stand up for their ideals

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<v Speaker 2>and stand up for their people.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, you said you don't want to name names,

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<v Speaker 3>but we can tell you want to, but we're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to push.

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<v Speaker 4>I certainly do.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been told not to.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's all. I respect that. Respect that because you're

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<v Speaker 3>respecting that. But I have to ask. It is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of early, so maybe don't have an answer yet. Does

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<v Speaker 3>this Is this possibly going to cause you to change

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<v Speaker 3>or reconsider in some way your politics and your party?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 5>Not.

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<v Speaker 2>I I stand from what I believe in. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I just have like severe trust issues right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very Yeah, I'm not gonna yeah, I'm I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a lot more careful with, you know, trusting

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<v Speaker 2>people in politics. Like I don't think I'm the most

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<v Speaker 2>political individual in the world. Actually, Like I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I like politics. I just I have a certain sense

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<v Speaker 2>of beliefs. I have this affiliation with the party, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've always looked for an affinity with other people who

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<v Speaker 2>thought the same because I didn't find that when I

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<v Speaker 2>was growing up as a kid. So that's what I've

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<v Speaker 2>been looking for. I've been having lots of fun doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been able to campaign. I've met really cool people,

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<v Speaker 2>and the kids at NYU, like my Republicans, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>so like they're great kids, all of them. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very proud of what I've I've done the past

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<v Speaker 2>four years. And I don't think this is the end

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<v Speaker 2>for the end for me in this political space. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many other things that I want to

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<v Speaker 2>do with my life, Like, I have so many other

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<v Speaker 2>things going for me, So I don't I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this has happened to me, Like a year or

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<v Speaker 2>two ago, I would have thought, oh, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the world. But yeah, I have so many

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<v Speaker 2>people who love me, like my family, my friends, that

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<v Speaker 2>and I do well in school and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>work hard, So I don't think that this is the

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<v Speaker 2>end for me by any means, I'm going to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. For all the people out there who

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<v Speaker 1>took to social media and accused you of being anti

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<v Speaker 1>Trump or anti Republican, or a closeted Democrat, whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to say, can you and I know you've probably

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<v Speaker 1>had to give this speech to your parents even but

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<v Speaker 1>what is it about the Republican Party and your belief

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<v Speaker 1>system that makes you feel the way you do about

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<v Speaker 1>this administration? Given all of the headlines and unrest and

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<v Speaker 1>change and upheaval that's happened. Tell us why you are

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<v Speaker 1>supporter of Trump and the Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, essentially, like I just grew up in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that was naturally conservative. I leaned that way, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted I want to be represented by you know, candidates

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<v Speaker 2>who are you know, support free speech on food, support

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<v Speaker 2>free commerce, things like the individual individual liberties, limited government.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something that I've always valued very much, religious freedom.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be able to live my life

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that is, you know, as uninhibited as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I used to be like a libertarian when

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<v Speaker 2>I was when I was like a young person, but

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of realize that you have to live in

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<v Speaker 2>a society with rules and then it's not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a free for all like that. And I aligned myself

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<v Speaker 2>with the Right because I just found all of my

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<v Speaker 2>my sort of values reflected in them. I wouldn't say that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I I stand firm in that and like,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'm not going to change my party affiliation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a closetive, closetive Democrat. I've I've I've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard that one before. Honestly, like my entire life, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had to you know, stand on business about being thinking

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<v Speaker 2>the way that I do.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's a new one.

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<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, I just I, like many Americans, I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to I want my family to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to afford groceries, for instance. And I feel like between

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<v Speaker 2>the two parties there are differences and how we would

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<v Speaker 2>address that sort of problem, like cost of living is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Veer towards the way that Republicans are trying to solve

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<v Speaker 2>that problem. And it's just I disagree about this with

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<v Speaker 2>my mother, with both both my parents, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the way things are of half of America thinks one way.

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<v Speaker 2>Half of America thinks another and I just yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just leaned towards the right. It's just how things turned out.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Bet, holiday dinners are fun though, right, No, for sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you tell me that you called, yes, you use

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<v Speaker 3>the word oddity, but and you also said that other

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<v Speaker 3>folks from the National Chapter and whatnot who wanted him

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<v Speaker 3>to be a part Barren to be a part of

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<v Speaker 3>the group on NYU campus. You said it was pie

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<v Speaker 3>in the sky. You knew it, but they didn't know it.

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 3>How do you know that's an idea being on campus,

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 3>we know he's there, but a day to day life

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<v Speaker 3>or an NYU student. Do you even feel his presence

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<v Speaker 3>in any way?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh No, I mean you feel it in that like

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 2>people from externally will ask you about him, like I mentioned,

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 2>but also like people on campus sort of make a

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 2>frenzy about it. Like I remember, we had just maybe

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 2>in September, we had just heard the news that he

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.880
<v Speaker 2>was matriculated in the school. We were like we were recruiting.

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 2>We were we had like a club fest where we

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:31.639
<v Speaker 2>had like a bunch of you know, we had table

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 2>set up and we were kind of.

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Like marketing our clubs. So we were marketing the College

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.159
<v Speaker 4>Republicans on campus, and people would come up to us

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 4>and be like, oh.

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Is Baron a member? Is Baron a member? And it's

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>it's that sort of hysteria that occurs on campus and

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 2>also online because people are are obsessed with with this

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 2>this kid, Like it's just it's kind of like they

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 2>form like this parasocial relationship with him, and and they

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, expect, yeah, you become a part of it

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 2>because you're on campus. But I've never actually I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen him. I don't go to the business school.

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just know that's he's followed by security detail and

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't really stay around campus. Like the big The

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>thing that I thought was crazy and this whole ordeal

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 2>was because people were saying that, oh, I did the

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 2>same thing. I went to class and I went home.

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I did the same thing. I was a commuter too,

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, when I'm in New York, I am

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>also a commuter. Like unless I have something to do

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 2>with I'm meeting up with a friend for like lunch

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 2>or something, or I have a cr event to go to,

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I go straight home too.

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 4>I have a long commute.

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't have time to stick around, and I have

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 2>plenty of work to do, so I just thought that

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 2>this is all insane, and yeah, it's been a predicament, but.

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a total misunderstanding. If you could say anything

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to President Trump right now, what would you say, I.

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 4>Mean, keep doing what you're doing.

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I campaign for you, and obviously, yeah, I'm a fan,

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know what else does. I've never had

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to really defend my book my beliefs like this is.

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've had to defend my beliefs to you know,

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>my family and people who think i'm adversely, but I've

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 2>never been accused of, you know, being a.

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 4>Fake Republican or anything like that. That's sort of insane.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 3>We asked that what you would say to President Trump?

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this way another way. Do you

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.120
<v Speaker 3>think he would be at all at odds with what

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 3>you said?

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would hope not, because what I said,

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing wrong with what I said. I wasn't attacking anybody.

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>But also I feel like there are bigger things out there. Yeah,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 2>they're bigger, Like he's the person, he's the leader of

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the free world. I feel like he has bigger things

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to worry about than some some random college student giving

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 2>an interview to Vanity Fair. I wasn't even the only

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.919
<v Speaker 2>person interviewed in that in that piece, like there were

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 2>other NYU students asked about the same sort of phenomenon.

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, obviously it's it's it's I wouldn't

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 2>say it's like something I think about every day that

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 2>the president's son goes to my school, but when I asked,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I do think about it then, and I'm asked very

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 2>often enough that it's something that I give a response

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.959
<v Speaker 2>to because that's just the I'm trying to explain the

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>reality of what things are like.

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And Kai, I hope you don't mind me saying this.

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people will just hear you. We don't

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>have too much of a video element to this, but

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I can see you're talking to us, and I can

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>see your chest is blotchy like this, like your emotions

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>are coming forward, just physically even, And I just want

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>people to understand. You read a story like this and

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you think it's nothing and silly or whatever, but the

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>impact is significant on a personal level. To go through

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>something like this at your age is traumatizing, to say

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the least. You mentioned that you have learned a lesson.

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>What are you going to take from all of this

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and how are you going to apply it to your life?

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, talk about your plans and how you're going

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to use this experience to maybe be a little more

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>wise in the ways of the world as you start

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>out on your life. You're twenty one, you're graduating in

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months, So do you have any idea

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>how this will impact your way forward?

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 2>So so, really, I think that I've in this whole ordeal,

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>I've kind of showed myself that you know, I've I've

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>gone through I feel like like any young woman, I've

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>gone through, you know, crises in my life, and I

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 2>just I feel like I've gotten better at dealing with

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>them as I've gotten older, and the fact that I'm

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 2>like I am, I'm very disturbed at what happened to

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 2>be honest, like it has been manifesting physically, like you said, but.

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 4>I've I've gotten better at dealing with them.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Like It's never the end of the world, Like I'm

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>always going to have people, you know, who are there

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>for me, who are going to reach out to me,

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and who loved me, who I love back and I'm

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>going to continue to lean on those people and you know,

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 2>trust beeople who deserve my trust, and I'm going to

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:07.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, focus on the endeavors that like I've been spending.

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Like I've told you, I've dedicated the past four years

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 2>to this organization and I'm still very dedicated to my chapter.

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to I just have so much much.

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Out there for me, Like I think I've worked hard

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 2>in my entire life, and I'm not going to let

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 2>something like this really, you know, push me, push me

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>off track.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to still dedicated to your chapter. Is what

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 3>got me the again. I guess you're holding a more

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 3>against the national chapter than the local one having responsibility.

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 3>But that was just kind of big of you to

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 3>hear you say something like that. These folks have kind

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 3>of put you through hell, you're still committed to the

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 3>organization on campus.

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>No, No, the organization on campus didn't do anything to

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>me like these like I'm telling you, Like we are

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the most like laid back sort of like our meetings.

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 4>We meet once a week.

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>All we do is eat pizza and talk like it's

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>not it's not an a thing like super sophistic kid

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>like we have debates sometimes with the Democrats, but it's

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 2>not anything like we're we're just we're all friends.

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Like I love all those kids.

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I can say it a million times, and they've supported

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>me through this, like my my, like my kids at

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 2>n YU, Like we're all pretty solid.

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 4>We're good, we're good kids. I'd say.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>We've just kind of had the imposition of these of

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the National Chapter, i'd say, and other other organizations that

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of have yeah, sort of disrupted, are

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 2>sort of fun. The fun that we've had together in

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>the past four years, i'd say.

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 3>And the last thing here, I want to ask, because

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 3>you mentioned in earlier said some things were coming at

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 3>you and folks were mentioning and asking about your race.

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 3>How did that factor into I'm sitting here looking at you.

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know your background, people hearing your voice don't

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 3>know it, but it was race. What is your background

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 3>and did race to have any do you think factor

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 3>in all of this?

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so my mother's Dominican, my father's My father's just

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>from New York like I I, I'm a black woman, Like,

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it had any factor into you know,

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>how I was forced to resign, But the comments that

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>people left online definitely did have to do with that,

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>because maybe like the fourth organization that kind of you know,

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>picked this story up was was a groper page.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 4>I'd say, so these.

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Are like, you know, I don't I don't really know

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 2>what to call them, not I'm not too familiar, but

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>these are people who are obsessed with that sort of thing.

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think they're not Republicans. I wouldn't say

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>they're just just nasty people. So they picked it up

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and they made Yeah, they made it a big deal.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>You know. The way that I looked the pictures that

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>they that were circuling latering on online were from me

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>when I was maybe like seventeen eighteen. I mean, I

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>used to straighten my hair then I looked I looked

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot whiter than I do now that I have

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>these locks in. But like it was just insane. They

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>were coming at me from all all angles. So that's

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>just like weird people online. I wouldn't Yeah, it's just

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it was weird to read. I'd say, I've never heard

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>anybody talk to me like that before. Eric been called

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>as many names as I have, but I don't know,

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know any of those people, and I think

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 2>that they, Yeah, I have my own life, I have

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 2>my own problems.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I just I'm going to focus on that well.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>As you mentioned, it is a very tough lesson to

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>learn at any age, and especially at yours. Bakaya, you

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>have handled yourself with so much grace and so much dignity,

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>and we really appreciate you coming on to talk about

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>what you said while you're unapologetic about what you said

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.959
<v Speaker 1>and the reaction that you're having to deal with at

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the age of twenty one. I mean, I'm super impressed

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>with you, and I know you. As you've said. All

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the people who know you know who you are and

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>love you, and I'm sure they're a little concerned right now.

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is an environment that none of us

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>have really experienced before. It's a tough world out there online,

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and we're just really sorry you had to deal with it.

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>But we really appreciate you coming on. And I love

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're still talking. I love that you didn't go

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>crawling a hole somewhere. I love that you didn't let

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>other people speak for you, that you're taking ownership of

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>what you said, You're clarifying what you said, and you're

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>standing by what you said, So thank you, yeah, thank

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you Kia for being here. We wish you the very best,

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>good luck and early congratulations on your graduation that's coming

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>up in just a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, take care of Broth with you.