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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what's up man? What's your name?

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll use the name Josh.

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Speaker 1: Josh, I like it. What's what's going on with you, Josh?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Not much due just hanging out watching my kids.

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Speaker 2: My wife is still asleep. I just got off work

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Speaker 2: a couple hours ago.

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Speaker 1: So what is it that made you want to call

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Speaker 1: into my Gecko show today? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I So, basically, my dad hasn't been a

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Speaker 2: part of my life ever since I was a baby.

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Speaker 2: I think like the first time I saw him I

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Speaker 2: was twelve, and then the second time was when I

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Speaker 2: was seventeen, and then I had no contact with him

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Speaker 2: up until I was about eighteen or nineteen, so like

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Speaker 2: a year after and then he went completely dark. I

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Speaker 2: like to lead of this Facebook, I can't find him anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Me and my wife ended up having a baby, and

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Speaker 2: there was no way for me to tell him that

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Speaker 2: he was a grandfather. So after about like five years

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Speaker 2: and twenty four now, I found him on Facebook and

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Speaker 2: Adam added him as a friend and he added me

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Speaker 2: back and everything, and I just don't really know where

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Speaker 2: to go or what to say.

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Speaker 1: And did you did you message him or did he

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Speaker 1: message you?

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Speaker 2: So I like kind of like stalked his Facebook a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I canna lie, I like looked through all

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Speaker 2: the same because he liked a photo of me and

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Speaker 2: my son. So I sent him a message basically saying like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I guess you got to it before I

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Speaker 2: could tell you, like, surprise, your grandfather sent this long

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Speaker 2: message to him, maybe an hour ago. He hasn't responded

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Speaker 2: together or anything, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, interesting. What How how long was it that you

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Speaker 1: said that he yet you'd seen him five years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, since I've talked to him. Yeah, I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: him in like I don't even know how long.

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Speaker 1: Was there like a reason why you didn't was Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Was there like a reason why you didn't talk to him?

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Speaker 2: Well? My mom always painted him as like this horrible person,

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Speaker 2: and there was like some stuff that I remember from

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Speaker 2: my past, like maybe when I was like a little

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Speaker 2: bit older than my son, like three years old, of

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Speaker 2: him like like breaking into the trailer that we lived

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Speaker 2: being cold. So like I have some bad memories. All

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Speaker 2: the memories that I have of him are that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I know like even I've made mistakes as a father,

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Speaker 2: maybe not to that extent, but I know that people change,

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Speaker 2: and I just don't feel like it's right for me

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Speaker 2: to not at least like reach out to him, try

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Speaker 2: to get his side of the story. Now that I'm

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Speaker 2: an adult and I have like a fool, I feel

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Speaker 2: maybe a better understanding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, that curiosity makes sense for you to

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Speaker 1: want to follow for sure. All right, how do you Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about following that curiosity?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I don't know because I told my mom about it

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Speaker 2: yesterday and she was pretty like like, oh, I don't,

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Speaker 2: Like that's a waste of time. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: you would do that, Like that's that's stupid. You know,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't do that. You shouldn't reach out to him.

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Speaker 2: You know, he wasn't there. What makes you think he's

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Speaker 2: going to be there now? Like type of thing, like

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Speaker 2: kind of like the whole, the whole thing that she's

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Speaker 2: not worth talking to, he's not worth even like wasting

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Speaker 2: your breath on mm.

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Speaker 1: Hmmm are you but you're not really you're not. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like going into this with any kind of expectations.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I don't have any expectations. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: I don't really, I don't know, dude. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what I want. I don't know what I want out

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, what do you what if the interaction went perfectly,

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Speaker 1: how would it go?

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Speaker 2: I guess he would just respond, and I don't. That's

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty hard question.

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Speaker 1: That's good though, That's actually that's good. I feel I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's good that you can't answer that, because

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Speaker 1: that means you have no expectations, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't even really expect him to respond.

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Speaker 2: I don't even expect him to read it. I didn't

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Speaker 2: even like ghek. I didn't even expect him to add

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Speaker 3: I just got like this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, Like I just got like

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Speaker 2: the spark in me I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to look his name off on Facebook

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Speaker 2: because I've white paged his name, done all that, like

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Speaker 2: So I was like, you know, I'm just gonna look

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Speaker 2: him up on Facebook this one time. And then I

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Speaker 1: How are things going with your family?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: They're good. I mean, money's tight like always, but that's

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Speaker 2: about to be fixed. My wife is going she just

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Speaker 2: did like a four month like celerated course for pharmacy

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Speaker 2: tech cool, and she's doing her extern shit in October.

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Speaker 2: So it's a month of like no pay forty hours

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Speaker 2: will be good. But I mean, honestly, with the way

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Speaker 2: the world is right now, it's kind of scary to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that I understand that. Uh yeah, bro,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that shit in terms of like

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Speaker 1: the generational gap between worlds gets like more exponential, I think,

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Speaker 1: between generations and shit. So I get, I get, I

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Speaker 1: get freaked out about that, you know, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't know, man. Sometimes like I'll walk around

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, kids are definitely are definitely not easy.

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Speaker 2: And then I think the same thing, like whenever my

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Speaker 3: The world going to be?

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Speaker 2: But I mean maybe my parents thought the same way.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's just part of being an adult, you see

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Speaker 2: how shitty things can really get.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny, man. I mean imagine like trying to

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: Dude, exact, I don't. I don't even know what web

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Speaker 1: three is. But there's some fucking thirteen year old who's

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Speaker 1: like making a billion dollars off of it, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Like we're all going to be doing

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever, the show, whatever, the ship that like

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Definitely a little spooky. But I guess that's good. I

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Speaker 1: guess that's what I guess that's what you want. You

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Speaker 1: want the next generation to and to create things that

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Speaker 1: you don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: It's also yeah, one second of momophone also like.

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Speaker 1: You sorry, I'll let you. I'll let you finish your piece.

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Speaker 1: But if you've got to attend to your kid, we can.

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Speaker 1: It's that's okay.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I definitely I want to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I listened to you like I I load trucks. Hold

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Speaker 2: on one second, I load trucks, uh for ups in

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Speaker 2: hours straight. And I've listened. I've almost listened to every

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Speaker 2: I've and I've like I've literally only started listening like

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Speaker 1: Oh cool, fuck yeah, fuck yeah, bro, thanks for that's

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Speaker 1: that makes me happy here in this uh you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's a while that I'm like on the

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Speaker 2: now you're talking to me, and it's just like crazy.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's your kid doing right now? She seems to

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Speaker 2: My I'm sitting in a wagon with a truck and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your what's your wife doing?

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Speaker 2: She worked, she's sleeping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the How old are you? You're like twenty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty seven? Man, how's that? How's that?

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Speaker 1: How how's being? How's being? Twenty seven?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you feel any different?

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Speaker 1: Well you're more of a You're you're way more of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, you're honestly lucky that you don't have kids,

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Speaker 2: And my wife didn't know how to open the computer

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Speaker 2: and I I'm lost.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, do you do you still think it

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Speaker 1: was worth it?

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Speaker 2: Kids?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, one hundred percent. They change your life, dude.

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like I went from like I don't know, dude,

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Speaker 2: And that kind of gives you like a like a

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Speaker 1: I almost I know I know you via what you

440
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: know about me, and I know you via what I

441
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: know about you from the past twenty minutes. So we

442
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: can combine that those two I can combine those two

443
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: informations enough for us to have this conversation. I know

444
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: this is getting kind of meta, but.

445
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: You know, I.

446
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: Cool. Man, Well I'm well listen, but here's the thing.

447
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: Regardless of what I uh, I appreciate you sharing your story,

448
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: regardless of what happens with you know, your dad on Facebook.

449
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm really happy to hear that uh uh you know

450
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: you're a great fucking dad and that you're enjoying raising

451
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: a family and the things things seem like they're they're

452
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: going well for you, man, So you know, congratulations on

453
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, we had that guy uh trip, We had

454
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: our boy Trip talking on the podcast like a week

455
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: or so ago about you know, breaking breaking the cycle

456
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: and trying to be a good dad. So, you know,

457
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: glad to hear another one out there doing that ship.

458
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's a noble thing to do. So I

459
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you doing that and sharing your story about it.

460
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks man, I appreciate you giving me a call

461
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: out of probably the hundreds of texts that you've gotten,

462
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: this the first. I think it's well, this would be

463
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: the second time that I've tried to call you.

464
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: Now I've only got I've gotten about how many texts

465
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: do I have?

466
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: Right?

467
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: And I got about uh, I got about ten?

468
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Oh about ten? Ship. That's still that's still I still

469
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 2: feel lucky.

470
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: Chris Man. Is there anything else gonna say with the

471
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? Uh?

472
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know a couple of years you said some

473
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago that you hate when people

474
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: or you wish that people wouldn't give advice.

475
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: So, oh, I do forget forget forget You know how

476
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: you just said that you listened to every episode of

477
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: the podcast forget anything I ever said in any of

478
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: those just forget it all. I didn't. I I was

479
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: I was drunk the whole time. That's not true. But

480
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 1: go ahead to say whatever, say whatever you want, man,

481
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: go ahead.

482
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was just gonna say, uh, I love

483
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: you guys, and I hope everybody's doing well. I know

484
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: it's hard time, so we can all get through it.

485
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: Yoh, thank you Josh. I appreciate you man. You have

486
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: a good one.

487
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah you too.

488
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: Bye, Josh, all right bye. I love you, Gek, love

489
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: you to you, buddy. Good guy like Josh. He's a

490
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: nice man. He's a sweet boy, taking care of his family,

491
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: living his life. Hmmm, I'm inspired by that. I'm inspired

492
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: by that. He's got a good he's got a good

493
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: head on his shoulders, doing a good thing.

494
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

495
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because he was asking me how it

496
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: felt like to be twenty seven, and I'm like, dude, bro,

497
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: you have like I feel like when you have two kids,

498
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: you're like a real ass adult. I feel that's why

499
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm sixteen. You know, I'm in a

500
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: precarious situation where like if I fell asleep right now,

501
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, nobody, nobody relies on me to uh exist

502
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: and not die. You know that has this pros and cons.

503
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: I think you know, but he seems like you got

504
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: a lot of purpose from having people to rely on

505
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: him to not die. I think it's nice. It's a

506
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: noble thing to have people in your life who need

507
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: you to not die. I think that's very noble. Hello,

508
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: hi there, Oh my god, what's up?

509
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: Are you kidding?

510
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Nothing? There is no kidding, There is only uh seriousness.

511
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: What is your name?

512
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 4: Oh my god, my name is Lida.

513
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm at work right now, Yo, Lida, you're at work?

514
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you able to interrupt your workday to

515
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: have this conversation right now?

516
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 4: Oh?

517
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, great, great? Could you do me a favorite?

518
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: Could you take me off of like speakerphone or headset

519
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: or whatever?

520
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

521
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, you're off, you're speaker. Now.

522
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: Where are do you work?

523
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: I work at a hotel. I am a housekeeper?

524
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, are you off toilets?

525
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

526
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Are you cleaning people? Are you cleaning ship off of toilets?

527
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: Right now?

528
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: Thankfully, I'm actually done with that. My work just do

529
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: was like a summer like barbecue. So yeah, it was

530
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: really good. But like I'm allowed to throw up because

531
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: I just ate too much food.

532
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: What did you eat? Would you have to eat?

533
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: Okay, let's see. I ate two cookies, I ate three cupcakes.

534
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: I had a hamburger. I ate a hot dog. I

535
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: ate some pizza salad, pizza salad, hold up pasta salad,

536
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: my bad pizza salad sounds really good, though, somebody should.

537
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: Come up with that's a that's a lot. Do you

538
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: feel Are you okay? Do you need medical atte? Do

539
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: you feel okay right now? Mentally and physically after getting that?

540
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: No? But my mom is a nurse, so I will

541
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: be okay.

542
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not I don't. That's uh. It's helpful that

543
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: your mom's a nurse, but I don't. Does it guarantee

544
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: that you'll be okay forever?

545
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: Yes, it does. I'll probably live forever because of her.

546
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: And you know what, I respect your confidence in that answer.

547
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: Nobody else has agreed with me on that.

548
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I may have talked about this

549
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: on the podcast once. I had a kind of embarrassing

550
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: moment when I went to Tijuana a few months ago.

551
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: I I'm a serial clogger. I'm known amongst the community

552
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: as a serial clogger of toilets.

553
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: And oh my.

554
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: God, I remember that episode you talked to that one

555
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: guy who was like, I clogged too many toilets, so

556
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: I can't live anywhere.

557
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like that too. That's why I can't have roommates.

558
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: I clogged too many toilets. I was. I was at

559
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: this hotel and I had like, uh, I clogged the toilet,

560
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: and I had to I went down to the front

561
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: desk and I had to be like tns esta and

562
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: then do the like toilet plunger motion, like I'm plunging

563
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: a toilet. And then they were like then they were

564
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 1: like one second and then and then they came up

565
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: to my room and they were about to go in.

566
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: They were about to go in, and uh unclogged the toilet,

567
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, I took, I took this toilet

568
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: plunger and I and I unclogged the toilet.

569
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: That's how I feel when I talk to my coworkers,

570
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: because they yeah, anyway, wait, okay, I'm nervous.

571
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: There's nothing. There's nothing nothing, nothing has happened. There's no

572
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: this is there's nothing to be nervous about. I I

573
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: we can uh yeah, there's you're not being like you

574
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: don't try to be please, don't. You don't have to

575
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: try to be anything. You don't have to try to

576
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: be anyone. You don't have to care about this in

577
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form.

578
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: I don't care about anything.

579
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: Good good good.

580
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

581
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Well, okay, let's there's a few things. Well, let me

582
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: ask you this, was there a particular thing that you

583
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about today.

584
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: Let's see see, Unlike everybody else, I've thought about this

585
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: like a bajillion times.

586
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: M hm, but hmmm.

587
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: Let's see. Okay, I just graduated from from high school.

588
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And.

589
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 4: Let's see I just got actually, I just got accepted

590
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: into cosmetology school.

591
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: Very nice.

592
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: And let's see, my brother got out of prison and

593
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: he's coming to live with us.

594
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Oh are you are you excited about that?

595
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: No? But you know, here's the thing. I have two

596
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: I have three brothers. One of them passed away, and

597
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: so now I'm having to be like extra thankful for

598
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 4: my other brother. So I'm kind of trying to not

599
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: be mad, but like, I'm in the middle of going

600
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: to school, and it's kind of crazy that, you know,

601
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: he's coming to live with us. I haven't seen him

602
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: in years, in the middle of me going back to

603
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: like cosmetology school, and so I'm just like, but.

604
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, okay, why uh if you want, I mean,

605
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about it, why uh you

606
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: would you had a very quick reaction when you said no,

607
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: why no to being excited about him coming home.

608
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 4: Well, as a housekeeper, I am very particular about how

609
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 4: I keep my living area, specifically like my bathroom, and

610
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: so I don't think I really have to elaborate too

611
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: much on that.

612
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: Okay, do you guys do you guys share? Do you

613
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: guys share a living space?

614
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: Like?

615
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: Do you live in the same room?

616
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: No, I have my own room, but we're gonna have

617
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: to share like a bathroom, okay kind of stuff.

618
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Are you excited to see him?

619
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see him. I am. I am. He's

620
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: just a huge dick wad is how I would describe him?

621
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: Is he older or younger?

622
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: He's older, he's in his Uh all my brothers are

623
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: in their thirties. I was quite the not planned sing

624
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: so all I have every single one of my brothers

625
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 4: are getting up there. So just fine.

626
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: You talked about and I'm sorry to hear about your

627
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: brother that passed away. You were talking about how okay,

628
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: because you have this is how many brothers? And is

629
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: he the last remaining brother? Is there another brother?

630
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 4: So I have another brother that is on my dad's side. Okay,

631
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: but he I don't talk to him. He's like bald

632
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: and stuff, and he.

633
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Has a kid, and the you don't talk to him

634
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: because he's bald.

635
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 4: Partly he gets it from dad.

636
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's fair. Sometimes sometimes you just don't

637
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: want to talk to bald people. I get that, and

638
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: I understand, yeah exactly.

639
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: And he's and he has a kid and stuff, and

640
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: so it's just like, yeah, hey, you're my you're my

641
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: brother man.

642
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I get it. Yeah, yeah, sure, you're eighteen.

643
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: When you think of like a brother, you're like, you

644
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: think of like a boy. You're like, you think of

645
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: like a Dexter's laboratory kind of a boy. But your

646
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: brother is a your brother is a bald, old man

647
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: with a child's and so you're like, I don't even

648
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: you're like a You're like a tertiary. You're like, I

649
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: need to invent a new word beyond brother, uncle cousin.

650
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: I need I need a new word to describe how

651
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I feel about you. Yeah, that's how That's exactly what

652
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: it is. Okay, I get you. I get you. So

653
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: then so then let me so let me ask you this.

654
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Uh the you're saying that you want to use this

655
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to foster a better relationship with the brother that

656
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: is coming to live with you. Do you do you

657
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: feel that way? Oh?

658
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 4: Let's see, I do feel that way. Let me think

659
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: I do feel that way?

660
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: Really hey, real quick, real quick? Can you I don't

661
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: know if you did something to your phone, but if

662
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: you could just hold it right up to your ear,

663
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: that would be great.

664
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry I had to take off my hoodie because

665
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: we're not allowed to wear at work. But anyway, Yeah,

666
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: so he's coming down, and then my dog Actually he

667
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 4: doesn't like people. He only likes me and my mom.

668
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So that's wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,

669
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: but but before you start talk about your dog, do

670
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: you are you trying to use this as like a

671
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: way to like, are you looking forward to like building

672
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: a relationship back with your brother?

673
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: I kind of am. Here's the thing, he's just kind

674
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: of a jerk, you know, he's just kind of a jerk,

675
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: And that's like the main thing. But other than that,

676
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: I guess I am. That's me excited. I haven't seen

677
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: him in a long time.

678
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: Mm hm.

679
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: When when was the last time you saw him?

680
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 4: I saw him? Let's see, done, like three years.

681
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: Three years?

682
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: Do you? Yeah, like three years, because.

683
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: Did you visit him at all in prison?

684
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: No?

685
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: So the thing is he was there. He's all the

686
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: way in Wyoming. I live in Oregon. Ohkay'm find you

687
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: for Renica. Okay, it's okay. Sorry, my coworker had some

688
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: drama for me. But anyway, we haven't visited him because

689
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: he kind of like, I mean, we call him and stuff,

690
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: but he kind of like he's too far away. Even

691
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: when we go down to visit our family in the summer,

692
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: he's just like way from where it's accessible to us.

693
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: That makes sense.

694
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: Do you ever write letters to him or anything like that.

695
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 4: I did not write letters to him. I don't write

696
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: letters to him, but we do talk, and you know,

697
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 4: I tell him, like you know, brother and sister stuff.

698
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: I guess like I tell him what's going on, but

699
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: nothing like I don't know. He's just like we're not

700
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: as we're not as close as I was with my

701
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 4: other brother. We were much closer when that passed away.

702
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: We were much closer. He's uh, it was like very cool,

703
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 4: very cool fellow.

704
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: M They're nothing you like, do you alright? Do you

705
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: is it possible? Do you think that your brother has

706
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: like changed at all and praise Like, do you think

707
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: he'll have he'll re emerge a different guy.

708
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: And that's what my mom keeps telling me. My mom

709
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: thinks that he has because you know, we talked to

710
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: him on the phone and stuff, and he seems a

711
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: lot more normal than he was. I mean, I can

712
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: say this, I think Yeah, I think so he was

713
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: like addicted to mess and stuff. So he was just

714
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: kind of like not who I remember him being when

715
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: I was younger and stuff like that. Yeah, so it

716
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: was just kind of like a struggle to I guess,

717
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 4: relate to him and have a good relationship the way

718
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: we did before. Yeah, if that makes.

719
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: Sense, Yeah, that makes sense. Is he is he clean now?

720
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 4: He's clean now just because I think it partially is

721
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: mostly because he can't access it anymore.

722
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: But that's a that's a solid way to stop doing anything. Yeah,

723
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: it is, it is.

724
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: It is.

725
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 4: It is. But I mean, I I I sympathize with

726
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: him and whatnot. Ah, but it's just kind of hard

727
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: to because he was.

728
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 3: Very rude.

729
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: But otherwise what is left to be done in here?

730
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: Well, listen, what's your name again?

731
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: I've heard everything, but wipe it down. Sorry, my name

732
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 4: is Lena.

733
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Lena, Lena. I'm gonna let you get back to work,

734
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, I appreciate you sharing your your story,

735
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: and I hope that uh things go well with you

736
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: and and your and your.

737
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: Thank you than your brother. Thank you. I appreciate that.

738
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. And uh yeah, I've been listening to

739
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 4: middle school so this is awesome. I couldn't even believe it.

740
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: Rock and roll. Man, Well, thank you very much for listening.

741
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: Good luck, and I'll see you. I'll see you around

742
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: the universe.

743
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. I'll talk

744
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 4: to you later maybe probably bye bye bye.

745
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: No fucking way that works, bro.

746
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: What's up?

747
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: Man?

748
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: What's your name?

749
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: What's up? My name?

750
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Has life?

751
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: Personally? In my life, a lot is going great, but

752
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: then like in the world, it seems like everything kind

753
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: of stucks.

754
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, uh a lot. Don't you what that everything

755
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: in the world sucks?

756
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

757
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have a lot of thoughts on this,

758
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: and I get into fights with people about it sometimes

759
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: about whether the world sucks because well because and I

760
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: don't know, I hate uh, part of me wants to

761
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: shut up, but I'm the one who has a fucking podcast.

762
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: But this is large part of me that and you

763
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: know what, fuck it is. The world's for as long

764
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: as we've been around. You can point to, you know,

765
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: terrible things, Yeah, you can point you can for as

766
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: long as we've been around, you can point to dictatorships,

767
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: and you can point to, uh, genocides and atrocities and

768
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: horrible things and so and so we're just dealing with

769
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: We're we're we're the human beings alive at this very

770
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: moment dealing with the horrible things going on in the

771
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: world at this very moment. But we it's not. It's

772
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: all and it's all new to us, you know what

773
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all new to us. But like, uh,

774
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, fuck man, we you know we had that,

775
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: there was the there's been if you if you want

776
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: to go and take a look, there's been horrible There's

777
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: been a horrible thing yet, if you want to go

778
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: take a look, there's been horrible things happening forever. And

779
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: I don't and I say that sometimes when people think

780
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm being dismissive, I swear in my life I'm not.

781
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: It's just no, it's not.

782
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: It's not dismissive to say that like war is always

783
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: a thing, because then if that also means if war

784
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: is also always happening, that also has to mean that

785
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 3: good thing are always happening as well simultaneously.

786
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

787
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always been ship in the world. There's always

788
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: been bad stuff, there's always been for but there's always

789
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: been super cool as always been.

790
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: I I I, and I don't say it to be dismissive.

791
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: I say it to be hopeful because I think people

792
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: have this uh, because we're you know, every every hundred

793
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: years there's new people. And I think people have this

794
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: uh feeling that like everything we're going through is like unprecedented,

795
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: And I and I have I have that feeling a

796
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: lot of times. And it's scary, and I mean, it's

797
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: certainly unprecedented for us because we've never well sorry hold on,

798
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: let me let me finish talking real quick.

799
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, sorry.

800
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: It's unprecedented for us because we're the people that uh

801
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: have you know, we're the first people going through it

802
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: as are we We're the it's the first time for

803
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: us going through it, right yeah. Yeah, But I mean

804
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: and also America, it didn't feel like uh, we always

805
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: felt like uh because we're like in power right now

806
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: at this point in the world, and so we always

807
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: felt like we were the like, oh, we're gonna be fine.

808
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: Nothing bad is ever gonna happen to us in America.

809
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: We're stable, you know, and uh, you know, everything is transient.

810
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're kind of dealing with our own insecurity

811
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: in that sense. But I think it's kind And again

812
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: the reason I said people think I've gotten enough fights

813
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: with friends because when you know, I say things like, well, yeah,

814
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, there's always throughout all of history been places

815
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: you can point and things you could point at, and

816
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: to go like, oh, that's so horrible, and they think

817
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying it to be like, oh, it's not that bad.

818
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's I mean that it's all that bad.

819
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying it to me, like, you know, uh, this

820
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: fear that we have of like the world is such

821
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: a horrible place and everything is so unprecedented and whatever whatever,

822
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't think that that fear is helpful.

823
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: And I think a more helpful attitude is like, well, yeah,

824
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: the universe has always had problems, We'll always have problems,

825
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: and we've always move, We've always been able to just

826
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: as a species, uh, get through them. And that doesn't

827
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: mean we should let our guard down. And that doesn't

828
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: mean we shouldn't be cognizant of things, but it does.

829
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: It means it's like, hey, listen, you we're not the

830
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: every hundred years, there's a new people. We're not the

831
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: first group of people ever to deal with hard and

832
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: precedented things. Everything that's ever motherfucking happened in in the

833
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: universe is unprecedented. It's always happening for the first.

834
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: The first time we've it's just the first time we've

835
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: experienced it.

836
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's that's all I have

837
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: to say.

838
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, yeah.

839
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 3: It's great. It's but like I want to go live

840
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 3: my life. Man, I want to it. It's I I

841
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: guess what. I I can see why people think that's

842
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: a dismissive take, because I want to I want to

843
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: counter that take slightly, like I'm not I want to

844
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: dismiss it, but I feel.

845
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Like, because.

846
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: We pee, I want to live, like I want to

847
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: do stuff like I used to be really really depressed

848
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: like I used to.

849
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: Uh.

850
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: I mean not to get like super into it or anything,

851
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: but I gotten I've gotten tree close to crossing over

852
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: the Rainbow Bridge a few times by my own hand,

853
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: and like I wouldn't want to say him over that

854
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: period of my life, but it's definitely I'm never going

855
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: to get that far again. And I'm at a point

856
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 3: in my life. I just moved into my apartment with

857
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: someone that I considered to love my life and he

858
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: considers that as well, and we're trying to move to

859
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: Germany together because he's German, and it just you know,

860
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: it works out, and you know, I'm really excited, Like

861
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to go over there to first thing to

862
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: study German German culture and then study music, and it's

863
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 3: just I'm really really excited to live and I want

864
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: to do all this stuff. But all these unprecedented times,

865
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: it seems like every day there's a headline that comes up,

866
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: like my partner's trans too. And I'm not gonna get

867
00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: too much more into that because of what people like,

868
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: what the culture has shifted to today, what the government

869
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: has shifted to today, I'm scared and I don't want

870
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: my life to be cut short because of that. That's

871
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: why I feel like people would say that's dismissive, because yeah, sure,

872
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: fascist governments have existed before, but the people died in

873
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: them and I don't want to die and I don't

874
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: want anybody to die, so like, and I know you

875
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: weren't saying, oh, we shouldn't do anything about it. I

876
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 3: know you are, but like, what do we do about it?

877
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

878
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I'm not

879
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: going to pretend like I have an answer for that

880
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: of what we do. Yeah.

881
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: No, that's a whole people, that's a degree.

882
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to pretend like I have an

883
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: answer of what we do about it. And I'm only

884
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 1: speaking to uh, I'm just speaking to like this sense

885
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: of like on dread of like uh, you know, feeling

886
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: feeling like things are unprecedented. That's all I'm speaking. I

887
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: don't have a I don't have a I don't. I'm

888
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: not pretending like I have a solution for, you know,

889
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: the state of the world. I I wouldn't even it's

890
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: so deeply beyond me and even I Also, if people,

891
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, think I'm being dismissive, that's that's okay. This

892
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: is just how I feel when I when I get

893
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: anxious about the world.

894
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely definitely a lot to be anxious about, that's

895
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 3: for sure.

896
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

897
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: So what do you so, what do you want to

898
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: do that you like, you want to leave you want

899
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: to go move to Germany?

900
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean so that's that's the like decision

901
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: that I've got. It decided for a multitude of reasons,

902
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: and the government actually being a pretty small part of

903
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: that decision. Most of it is simply because my partner

904
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: is part German, he lived there during the summers when

905
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: he's a kid, and it just works out really well.

906
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: I've always been interested in German culture, and because I

907
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: was also his plan and we we reconnected. We went

908
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: to high school together, but we lost contact after a

909
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: few years and then reconnected kind of recently, is like

910
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: ten months ago now, and a few months ago moved

911
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: in together. So it's just I want to go to

912
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: Germany with him because he's the love of my life

913
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: and it's so great and I love him so much.

914
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: And so why are you so, why are you saying

915
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: that you you don't feel like you can live your life?

916
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: Well speak like not It's not that I can't in

917
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 3: long story short, but the people running the systems of

918
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: our like world the airport. Government might not let that

919
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: happen because of stupid culture war issues like uh trans

920
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 3: quote unquote ideology and uh like race war ship people

921
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: just stop realizing that the war is not left or right,

922
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: but it's up and down.

923
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I I I agree with that, but so

924
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: and I I agree with that and empathize that that's

925
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: a terrifying thing. But I want to get down to

926
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: why you feel like you can't like do the things

927
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: that you want to do.

928
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: Like, I guess, what do you what do you mean?

929
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: Then I'm strug going to understand that.

930
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: You said you said I want to live my life.

931
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess in a way, I'm kind of let

932
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 3: the pressure of that whole government not let me live

933
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 3: my life already. I like, personally, I've kind of gotten

934
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: myself into this weird bubble of just not seeing one

935
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: just going to work and going home. But that's more

936
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: of like a personal like I guess my personal well

937
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: it is personal issue, but not necessarily related to the government.

938
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So so why do you feel like you

939
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: can't live your life? And also I guess what does

940
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: it even what does it mean for you to live

941
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: your life?

942
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 4: Well?

943
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: Well, so I'm a I'm a musician. I might have

944
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier. I'm playing on studying studying music in Germany.

945
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 3: And that's just kind of how that's what that is

946
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: my life, That's how I live my life. I've been

947
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: playing drums since I was too my dad taught me how.

948
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: It's just that's how I live. And for for a

949
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 3: good while, I had this band in the local scene

950
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: and I did a lot of shows. Sorry, it's gonna

951
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: get uh, it's you opened up a can of worm,

952
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 3: just gonna get a little dark here. I had a

953
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: I had a band and we played a bunch of

954
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: shows around the scene. And this one time we did

955
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: a show at a park, uh in middle of the city,

956
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: and we were we were doing it and this park

957
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: has like some like dangerous architecture, and kid freaking died

958
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: climbing it. And it kind of like climbing it because

959
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: you're not stills a climate. It's like all fenced off

960
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: one hundred feet up in the air or actually fifty,

961
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: but still this kid went top defense like a lot

962
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: of kids, do you know what I mean? Did people

963
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: go into the show and he like literally fell off

964
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: and died at that show. That I was playing and

965
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: it was a it was a quote, yeah I wat show.

966
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard that term before. It

967
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: was like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So ever since that,

968
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: I kind of.

969
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: It kind of just like.

970
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 3: Made me go back to how it was before I

971
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 3: did all that band stuff, because that was like I

972
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: started to do the band stuff after I like finished

973
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: a program to deal with my personal issues, like I

974
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: got addiction issues, I got trauma issues from middle school

975
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: middle school bullying. It was like intense, tense uh stemming

976
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: you know, into addiction issues.

977
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: So then.

978
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: Where am I?

979
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: Where am I?

980
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: Like I train of thoughts?

981
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: Sorry, So that's that's that's okay. Well, I mean listen, man, look,

982
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: let's you want to bring it back to I guess

983
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: what we were initially talking about.

984
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, sure, sure.

985
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean just the just the concept of like living

986
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: your life right, Yeah, you have you have okay? So

987
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: I mean you have this uh uh partner that you're

988
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: very in love with, and you want to go within

989
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: to Germany. And where do you live now? Uh?

990
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 3: In the city. I I don't care people people know me.

991
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 3: I live in Seattle.

992
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: You live in Seattle, Okay, and you want to move

993
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: to where in Germany.

994
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's gonna be a few different places. It's

995
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: going to start with Munich because there's like this program

996
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: that I'm going to be doing for German language, but

997
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: Munich to be determined.

998
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: Brother, I don't know you very well, but you sound

999
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: like you're living your life pretty well. You know, you're

1000
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: in you're in a you're in a relationship, you're about

1001
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: to go learn fucking Germany. You you sound like you're

1002
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: doing again. I don't know you very well, but you

1003
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 1: you sound like you're living your life.

1004
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I am. I definitely am. Don't get

1005
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: your wrong. Especially this is because, uh, you know, I

1006
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: moved out of my parents' house to go to my

1007
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: partner's apartment and that was only like the second time

1008
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: I lived by myself after her going to Florida. But

1009
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: that's a whole lot of dan worms mm hmm. But like,

1010
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: so yeah, in essence, I am, I'm just not like

1011
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: doing as much as I was, so I I.

1012
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's I guess those are my I mean,

1013
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: I guess back to talking about just general world events.

1014
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of think.

1015
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: That's just the whole thing.

1016
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have I don't have a solution for it.

1017
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean living your life the best way

1018
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: you want to live it is uh, you know, with it,

1019
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: but living your life the best way you want to

1020
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: live it within the confines you have to live it

1021
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: is uh. One of many good answers, one one of

1022
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: many potential good answers. AH to facing this weird a

1023
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: dread that I think our generation is looking forward to

1024
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: the world with.

1025
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know when it comes to

1026
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: my life objectively, like with even with me not feeling

1027
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm living it like objectively, like when I

1028
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 3: really looked at it, I do, like I love I

1029
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: love my life right now. I love working, coming home

1030
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: to my partner and just you know, living Most of

1031
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: the time we cooked cooked dinner by ourselves because it's

1032
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: just expensive to eat. But it kind of made me

1033
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: realize that I like cooking again. So that's fine. Been

1034
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: surviving off of me so soon because it's so easy.

1035
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, but I guess other than that, Uh, first,

1036
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 3: all the personal slide stuff aside, I I don't know

1037
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 3: what else there.

1038
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 1: Talk about, ship, what we tald, what we talked about

1039
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: A lot.

1040
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 3: We did Yeah, that's true. I text, you know, a

1041
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: text I told you, like I worked for the you

1042
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: your company rentals.

1043
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Do you do you feel do you feel

1044
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: there's any well, I mean, do you feel I guess

1045
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: on on all the subjects that we've covered, and I

1046
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: want to I genuinely want you, genuinely want to know.

1047
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: Do you feel satisfied with our conversation about them? Is

1048
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to bring up? Or you know,

1049
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: because we're talking about some big stuff and you know,

1050
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: I know you seem you feel, you seem passionate about it,

1051
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: and so I want to, you know, make sure we

1052
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: get all the angles if that you wanted to get.

1053
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1054
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: No, no, I I do feel good talking about it.

1055
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: I guess I'm still just a little I wasn't expecting

1056
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: to talk to you right now anyways, but.

1057
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: No, it does feel good to.

1058
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: Kind of get it all out there in a in

1059
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: a way I kind of haven't really put it all

1060
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: out there like anybody else for a good while now,

1061
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 3: like like the way I did, Like I've you know,

1062
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 3: gone into bits and pieces of it, but just you know,

1063
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: saying everything that I've been thinking about, because this is

1064
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: pretty much what I've actually been thinking about, like this

1065
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 3: exact conversation and all stuff we're talking about has kind

1066
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 3: of just been the stuff I've been thinking about this

1067
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: past three weeks, like weirdly on repeat, and I don't

1068
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: know why what specifically, just like well, so starting off with, uh, personally,

1069
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: how everything's going good in my life, but then it

1070
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: seems like, you know, my government is trying to attack

1071
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: me and everybody I love. Yeah, I've been thinking about

1072
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: that a lot. But then also just the you know,

1073
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 3: personal aspect of it being like, Okay, so why am

1074
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: I not doing anything right now?

1075
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: Although like, uh, why are you not do you? But

1076
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: you're doing a lot? What do you what do you

1077
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: like you're not doing?

1078
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: Just like that's the thing like going to shows, Like

1079
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 3: I haven't I've been really doing much with my music lately,

1080
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: is what I'm trying to say. Like I haven't been

1081
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: going to many shows at all, really haven't been going

1082
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: practicing guitar. I haven't been recording much, like and that's

1083
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: kind of like for the longest time, the thing that

1084
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 3: just has been the biggest part of me, Like that's

1085
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: like that was my thing, that was the thing I

1086
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: am good at, Like without that I don't know. Mm hmm,

1087
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: I was kind of serious identity crisis, crisis if that

1088
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: music wasn't the thing.

1089
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Let me say, let me say this, let

1090
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: me let me you know, let me let me say this,

1091
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: and uh, people might take issue with this, and but

1092
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, It's it's how I'm feeling in

1093
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Speaker 1: the moment that I'm thinking about this right now and

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you. Is that uh, like, listen, you

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Speaker 1: have things you want to do. You you you want

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Speaker 1: to learn German, and you wanna foster this relationship you

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Speaker 1: have with your partner, and you wanna play shows, and

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Speaker 1: you wanna do all these things and and and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that you as a lot, as a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: as most people, I don't know about most people, but

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Speaker 1: as a lot of people, uh, in fucking America and

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Speaker 1: in the world, are get get stuck in like dread

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: dread loops, like very existential loops because you see ship

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Speaker 1: that's going on in America and in the world, and

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Speaker 1: it fucking freaks you out. Yeah, because it's freaky, because

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Speaker 1: it because it's freaky stuff. And the thing I wanted

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Speaker 1: to say that is, uh, you know that I guess

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Speaker 1: I feel is like, look, the best one of the

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Speaker 1: best forms of resistance is like, it's important to be

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Speaker 1: aware of these things, and it's important to fight against

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Speaker 1: these things, but it's really really deeply important to go

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Speaker 1: you know what. Yes, yes, yes, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: fucked up things happening, and powerful people are are doing

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Speaker 1: bad things in the world. But I'm not I draw

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Speaker 1: the fucking line at my sanity. And that's how I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna resist. Is is if I because I go on Reddit.

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Speaker 1: If I go on Reddit every day, and every day

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Speaker 1: I go on Reddit, Reddit is like curated this thing

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Speaker 1: where if Reddit bro, like you, yeah, I don't have

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Speaker 1: to tell you, right, I go every day. Reddit has

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Speaker 1: curated bro, they're getting you know what, fuck it. I'm

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Speaker 1: not being I'm not gonna be apologetic about this. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be passionate about this. They're really I really feel

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Speaker 1: this way. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, all these things, they they

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Speaker 1: have curated for us a fucking daily thing where we

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Speaker 1: can go and every day we have the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: just spiral in a fucking loop of all this shit.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling and I'm telling you, like, if you

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Speaker 1: really want to fight back for brother, for you. The

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Speaker 1: best way I think you can fight back, I really

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01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: mean this is to go you know what you can.

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01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: You can manipulate the universe and you can go after people,

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01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: and you can do all this fucked up and you

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Speaker 1: can kill people. You can do all this fucked up shit.

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Speaker 1: But I'm drawing the line at my own sanity. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put the phone down. I'm gonna go to the

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Speaker 1: fucking DIY music show, and I I Am going to

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Speaker 1: uh in a form of existential spite, try to enjoy

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Speaker 1: my life, you know, as opposed to And I'm I

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Speaker 1: and I know what every and I know what you're

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Speaker 1: all fucking doing because I go on Reddit and I see, like, dude,

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Speaker 1: you go on read it and like you look at

1143
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: like every day there's a new Trump thing to get

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Speaker 1: upset about, and you and I look at the comments

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01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: and instagra, I and you look at the comments, and

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Speaker 1: the comments are filled with people being like you know,

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Speaker 1: like commenting being pissed off. It's filled with people who

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Speaker 1: are it's it's filled it's filled with people who are

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Speaker 1: like you know, letting it like take up their brain,

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Speaker 1: like your like bro, like you're you have a finite

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Speaker 1: amount of time to exist and to do the things

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Speaker 1: you want to do, and you gotta protect it really carefully.

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Speaker 1: You gotta protect it, You gotta you gotta protect it

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Speaker 1: as carefully as you can. And I know that there's

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Speaker 1: certain things that are going on in the world that

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Speaker 1: are just unavoidable, but you have to put up a

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Speaker 1: little bit of effort to protect your attention and what

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: you spiral about as much as you can. And the

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Speaker 1: best form of resistance that you got again is the

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Speaker 1: ability to go, I as the ability to look at

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Speaker 1: that Instagram post and go, I know that someone's making

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Speaker 1: fucking money off of me getting pissed off right now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna fucking go

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Speaker 1: play my guitar or go study German.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's the that's, in my opinion, the best resistance that

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Speaker 1: you can do. Because when you're when you're spiraling, it's

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Speaker 1: like people are the the most engaging emotions are are

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Speaker 1: are fear and anger and all the companies and all

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Speaker 1: these So when you're stopping on the Instagram post and

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Speaker 1: you're you're letting your existential dread about the state of

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Speaker 1: the world stop you from living your life. You're you're

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Speaker 1: like you're you're really letting them win. And I really

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Speaker 1: don't think you should do that. And people can, you know, ah,

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Speaker 1: say that it's like ignorant, but that that's and And

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Speaker 1: I don't think that what I'm saying is the whole

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Speaker 1: piece of the pie. I really don't. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to pretend like what I'm saying is the whole piece

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Speaker 1: of the pie. But I think it's an important piece

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Speaker 1: of the pie.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you Jack. I think

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Speaker 3: you know, I think I really needed to hear that

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Speaker 3: really badly.

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Speaker 1: Like I.

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Speaker 3: Knew it subconsciously. It's like kind of people know that,

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Speaker 3: like they can like know things be where they know

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Speaker 3: it cautiously. But it's I appreciate you kind of talent

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Speaker 3: me the way you did the work. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it just it made sense.

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Speaker 1: Good good, I'm glad. I'm glad. And and by the way, man,

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Speaker 1: you have a nice life, you know you really you do,

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,839
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you like like you have. You were excited

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Speaker 1: about the future, you got You're gonna go on this trip.

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Speaker 1: You have this person that you clearly love in your life.

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Speaker 1: You have these hobbies that you cleue love in your life,

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Speaker 1: like just don't like please please, like obviously it's hard,

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Speaker 1: like things are scary, things are happening. I understand that,

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Speaker 1: but just don't don't let it take you out of

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Speaker 1: your life for too long, just like understand a nice life.

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Speaker 3: I've spent way too much time in like that way

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Speaker 3: but really dark head space to have her go back there?

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Speaker 3: So good good fuck that?

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Speaker 1: What is your name again?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Actually you know I said my real name beginning of

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Speaker 3: a podcast, but I'm realizing now you could like change

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Speaker 3: it up. I'd be I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I can, I can. I can get rid of it,

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Speaker 1: just like I know.

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Speaker 3: I know live stream internet isn't permanent.

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Speaker 1: But on this you're your name. Get rid of your name.

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Speaker 3: Well, do a coffee. I'm in front of a coffee shop.

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Speaker 1: You can call me coffee, perfect coffee. Is there anything

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Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the

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Speaker 1: computer before we go?

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Speaker 3: Keep your head up, keep going even though life my

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Speaker 3: fucking suck outside my scene like that, I guess, don't

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Speaker 3: like make it interrupt your personal life for inject your

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Speaker 3: personal life as I sort.

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Speaker 1: Of have se Yeah, thank you do you have a

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Speaker 1: good rest of your life.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, you as wells blesses.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, But he's not really an expert.